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This thread is for anything related to the discussion of Japanese light novels, WN / Web Novels included.
Learning Japanese to avoid mistakes and subtext trimming by translators and MTL is heavily recommended.

>Finding light novels info:
https://pastebin.com/M5xQxuHm

>Additional resources:
https://lnwncentral.wordpress.com/
https://boroboro.neocities.org/listfullepub.html
>Recommended readers:
Android, Libera https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.foobnix.pro.pdf.reader/

>Main links
Main: https://nyaa.si/view/1202979
v19.0: https://nyaa.si/view/1575043
v19.1: https://nyaa.si/view/1585807

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>> No.41599252
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41599252

ever since the thread switched to LN discussion it turned to shit, we should go back to VNs

>> No.41599395

>>41599252

There's 2 generals for that

>> No.41599464
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41599464

Asuna and Kirito are the best couple-the best!!!

>> No.41599712

>>41599464
I wish he would write a Klein spin-off, I want Klein to play an RPG with a brothel,where he humps girls.

>> No.41600115

>>41599807
Glad to hear that anon. I used the address of a random McDonalds in Tokyo, Amazon does not care.

>> No.41601548

>>41593063
>and you can download it with OpenAudible.
I'm, using https://github.com/rmcrackan/Libation instead

>> No.41601652

>>41599170
I love my Wife Tamurahime

>> No.41602908

sometimes i feel i'm missing out on this audiobook shit but there's too few stuff with recorded audiobooks

>> No.41604957
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Llenn is the strongest, FPS girl in the world!

I have a pic of her full squad but my resolution is too big for 4chan.Increase our image size limits a little,Hiroshimoot.

>> No.41605535

Anyone got ebooks of the Monogatari series in JP? I want them on my kindle.

>> No.41606789

>>41605535
they aren't up on nyaa?

>> No.41608073
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41608073

speaking of autismos from last thread, which word everyone ended up settling for anyway?
because whatever you call them i just can't get enough of characters like that, it just feels great to see characters become better and better at rapidly bigger speeds
MC of picrel very much related

>> No.41608760

>>41604957
It's still wild to start reading SAO and find out it has quite a lot of depth.
It wouldn't feel like this without literal years of endless shitting on it from anitubers and ironic weebs in general.

>> No.41609121

>>41608073
>it just feels great to see characters become better and better at rapidly bigger speeds
same and didn't know this applied to that series, guess i'll bump it up in my backlog

>> No.41609709

>>41608760

I like that SAO guy is willing to admit his faults, and tries to learn from them. Gives his work a lot of charm.

>> No.41610832

>>41609709
what's weird is him interacting with fans at all, it feels everyone avoids doing that because it always results in some kind of shitshow in the long run

>> No.41610881

sao alicization leaves a bad taste in my mouth because in the wn version tiese and ronye were actually raped like wtf reki

>> No.41610998

>>41610832
I think that most authors do that to some degree. Though the more experienced ones will know how to filter the feedback and only get them via select channels

>> No.41613496

>>41610998
This, plenty of them talk to fans really often on narou and twitter, dunno where anyone would get the idea they don't interact with fans.
If they take feedback or not depends on the author, but they DO interact with fans.

>> No.41613712

>>41610881
should have been Asuna instead

>> No.41614157

Hey bros, which reader has the best dictionary functionality? I'm at the point where I should start reading more challenging stuff but I still need to look up words somewhat often.

>> No.41614284

>>41606789
They're all scans, I need mobi or azw3. Or at least an epub.

>> No.41614307

>>41608073

I just know "autism" isn't the word you want.

>> No.41614319

>>41614157
I think Calibre is good enough. You just highlight and the dictionary tab popups at the side.

>> No.41614334

>>41614157
>>41614319
Sorry, meant to say e-reader. I already use Calibre, thanks.

>> No.41614380

>>41614334

Ok, I just bought a Paperwhite 4 and it's good enough, it took me a bit to get used to because it's a little bit slower than just doing it on your cellphone.
Look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl8DCrx-6U0

>> No.41614403

>>41614380
>benchmarking dictionaries
AIEEEEE

>> No.41614467

>>41614380
i have all three of these models too because they get cheap as fuck during sales
the pw3 definitely has the best and most "paper-like" screen but the pw5 is just so much better in terms of screen-size, speed, battery life and features (specifically the warm backlight)
don't think i'll have to upgrade for a few years now from the 5, except if they ever make a model with the older screen again which i highly doubt is going to happen

>> No.41615960

>>41599170
says "ranopesure" in katagana

>> No.41616149

>>41615960
anon...

>> No.41616152

>nano
>desu

>> No.41616175

>>41616152
Scientists have not been able to confirm a desu that small yet.

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wtf gun loli is getting an anime next season i had no idea

>> No.41617090

>>41617057
>why hasn't it had/not yet getting a season
is the only question you should have to which the answer is

>show slots are full for this season so probably next season

>> No.41617160

>>41617057
I'm still waiting for an air date of the 治癒魔法の間違った使い方 anime

>> No.41617722

i will be honest, as an /a/ refugee i never expected so many people here to know japanese, it feels like everyone either knows japanese or is learning it

>> No.41617911

>>41617722
It’s because the Japanese learning process has been pretty much “solved”. It’s a lot less mysterious and overwhelming than before which makes it easy to start.
Also jp has more hardcore weebs than a.

>> No.41617937

>>41614157
I use an Onyx Boox running ttu reader and yomichan on kiwi browser. 9/10 would recommend. Sometimes ttu reader won’t let me tap on words on the first few lines of the page, but that’s only been a minor inconvenience so far.

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>>41617722
don't worry /a/ friend, you still have your good points don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise

>> No.41618117

>>41609709
What faults?

OK but seriously, yeah he relied on rape,or almost rape,a lot as a plot device,but so what?

Every light novel has tropes in it,like an almost harem to overpowered shonen MC.

>> No.41619622

>>41617722
it's because only the autistest use /jp/ in the first place, why do you think nobody from /a/ wanted to come here

>> No.41619747

>>41599464
>>41599712
>>41604957
>>41608760
SAO Progressive,the movie, Scherzo of an Abyssal Dusk was the number 1 movie at the box office in Japan opening weekend. Over a 2 day time period, it earned 92% of the revenue that the first movie did. I genuinely dont get why the skipped floor 2 tough. Im sure they've probably altered floor 5 as well.

>> No.41619785

>>41619747
and now we wait a year for the blu-ray release

>> No.41620225

>>41619622
/jp/ has always been /a/'s lecherous onee-chan. /a/nons may feel deep respect and love for their elder sibling, but at the same time they are scared of what they might experience should they enter her room carelessly.

>> No.41621122

>>41619622
I have seen too many isek/a/i general memes that still slip by despite people trying to hide it, there are /a/ people here.

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>>41621122
does that mean i can drop the pretense and post blondes?

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>>41621404
As long as it's on-topic, sure? Not like LNs lack blonde girls, that's a very broad category.

>> No.41622877

where is the light novel audiobook tracker

>> No.41623830

>>41617722
You better start, tourist

>> No.41624426

>>41623830
i mean, i am, already got the itazuraneko guides and started learning kana

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>>41622877
you'll have to build your own

>> No.41624572

>>41622877
>>41624562
You will take my spreadsheet from my cold dead hands.

>> No.41624938

>>41622877
trackers always felt so weird to me, what is even the appeal?
i keep my backlog in a notepad and everything i read either i remember and/or still have it, what's the point of public trackers?

>> No.41624987

>>41624938
You don't have to look up if there are new releases. It's less work.

>> No.41625049

>>41624987
somehow it's always more work to keep up with trackers than just check bookmarked store pages in a single click

>> No.41625155

>>41624938
i just like seeing the cover illustrations when picking the next thing to read from from my backlog
>and everything i read either i remember
i will sometimes pause series for a year before i come back to them and it's nice not having to guess whether i had paused after finishing volume 5 or 6, and i don't want to read あらすじs of later volumes and accidently spoil myself

>> No.41627636

>>41622702
isn't her skirt a bit too short? not like i'm complaining

>> No.41628222

>>41619785
True, I'm sad the first movie didnt add nipples in for Asuna's bath scene. Ordinal Scale did.

>> No.41629013

>>41625155
maybe i don't read enough but i remember exactly the last volume i read of all the over two dozen series or so i'm following, though with WNs it's too easy, i just save the link of the last read chapter
more often than not i remember details down to the volume and chapter for those times i want to read some particular scene again
i always considered my memory to be average, but is that not normal?

>> No.41630194

>>41629013
That feat is definitely not average. Some people are better with certain things than others, so maybe you are average in things that don't relate to numbers.
But I think you just might have what some people call a "good memory".
Ask a doctor about it. Get help before it's too late.

>> No.41631359

>>41629013
do you actually remember the exact last chapter read from a story you paused over a year ago, off the top off your head? i'd say that's pretty impressive

>> No.41631369

and so it begins
but really, does anyone ever actually use the special style when 4chan does that sort of thing?

>> No.41633380

>>41629013
I may forget some character names, but reading through their actions remind me of their roles and character so I can typically remember them.

>> No.41635439

>>41633380
NTA but once I started having memory problems I dialed it back by dropping most of the stuff I felt was just "meh" and keeping up with only stuff I liked.

>> No.41637154

I watched first two episodes of shadow anime adaptation and now I'm sad because it was shitty

>> No.41637393

>>41637154
I have been liking it so far, while some things are out of order and the technology is 200-300 years ahead of what it should for some reason, it's surprisingly faithful.
It's also weirdly nostalgic, like I'm watching old stuff like the shana adaptation.
Then again I read it in japanese instead of the YP meme TL, so my expectations are different.
My complaint is they cut too much of the autism but I guess I can't ask for everything due to limited runtime per ep.

>> No.41637641

>>41637393
people keep complaining about the YP TL but I'm still not sure what's wrong with it other than the katana/sword thing and supposedly they didn't convey enough how autistic shadow's thoughts and speech style are but honestly idk how you'd do that in written English without being an experienced writer in your own right since a lot of the meme chuuni stylistic flairs aren't really directly convertible to english 1:1 and you'd have to just reconstruct the tone with your own writing skill

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>>41637641
It's one of those things that are almost impossible to explain for an EOP or an N5-4, I could explain paragraph by paragraph but not only I would end up retranslating the entire 4 volumes plus doubling their length off TL notes, you have no way to parse this proof either, my word wouldn't be any more valid than the YP TL itself.
But then again, if you could parse this proof then you wouldn't need me explain it in the first place, either way I will try anyway, I'm rereading it and my memory is fresh, may as well.
To sum up the problem in the simplest way I can, the YP TL actively refuses to let the characters have any dignity whatsoever, I have seen this be describe it as it being more "memey", which is only half-true and doesn't explain the problem, because it's pointing at a symptom rather than the cause.
One of the standout scenes that come to mind is volume 2, chapter 2, the scene where epsilon has her life flash before her eyes because venom slashed her slime pads, specifically when said flashback ends.
In case you need proof, pic related is that scene on the LN, on the WN it's chapter 52 https://ncode.syosetu.com/n0611em/52/
>その瞬間、イプシロンは覚醒した。
>こんなところで……。
>こんなところでッ……!
>バレてたまるかぁぁぁぁぁぁあああああああああああああああ!!
Which depending on who you ask, it could be translated like this:
>At that instant, Epsilon wakes up.
>At a time like this...
>At a time like thisss...
>I'm not going to be found ooooooooout!
Yes we can split hairs about it actually being closer to "I'm not going to be found out because of something like this!", or rather to be more accurate "I'm not going to let my secret start to get exposed here because of something like this!" implying she's not going to let that big secret spill over ONLY because someone took her off guard once and almost sliced her in half, and that not fitting into the scream as nicely when translated, but that's a bit besides the point, that's what a TL note would be for.
Want to know how YP did it?
>In that moment, Epsilon awakens.
>This can’t be happening here...
>No...!
>She refuses to be exposed for her shiiiiiiiiiit!!
It takes a girl from noble upbringing which happens to be a little autistic and a bit too prideful due to an inferiority complex, and turns her into a petty burger teenager.
And it's not just this scene, it's pretty much everything, you may not think this is a problem but droplet by droplet you have a flood and it completely changes the tone of the entire series, that's why EOPs think it's a meme-chuuni thing when it really isn't.
The worst part is I just know this is due to the western belief all comedy requires someone to be on the receiving end, which means to make it work like that the translator has the characters themselves be on the receiving end and it just doesn't work, it's not supposed to be megumin shit because that has no dignity at all, which ruins the tone, rather it's the characters taking their own actions completely seriously even when it gets ridiculous, and that by itself being comedic.
Just to be even more redundant and saying it again, the YP TL takes "haha...oh my god x actually did it, that's so cool" and turns it into "look at these dumbasses for taking this silly thing so seriously, isn't that funny?" which shows no respect at all, and I wager that's likely why people get angry at this TL in particular (or at least more angry than usual).
And if you think this is just "spicing up" the source material, then with due respect go fuck yourself, stop advocating for actively ruining media only because EOPs are too dumb to understand it.
Yes, this is after ignoring the blatant errors that make it clear it's borderline edited MTL like the narration referring to fucking everything as a "katana", even when talking about Delta's sword (the correct translation for the kanji in context would be "blade" by the way, because YP refuses to just use "sword"), or small things like Annerose saying "I figured it would be better for you to take some licks here", and if you started learning off MTL and a hover dictionary, you know exactly what's the mistake in that example.

>> No.41638077

>>41638063
>バレてたまるかぁぁぁぁぁぁあああああああああああああああ!!
>She refuses to be exposed for her shiiiiiiiiiit!!
I can't stop laughing.

>> No.41638113

>>41638063
Even MTL doesn't translate it as katana.

>> No.41638132

>>41638063
I think

>She refuses to be exposed for her shiiiiiiiiiit!!

this just proves your point, instead you wrote a whole article lol.

>> No.41638136

>>41638063
this is the sort of shit "lore" ecelebs should be doing instead of taking 6 hours to explain basic plot points
too bad people didn't understand those basic plot points and they get called geniuses and lore gurus for those explanations
the discussion floor is so fucking low that talking about this is like explaining complex kerbal space program strategies to a flat earther

>> No.41638152

>>41638136

Who are you shitting on? 95% of them dont know japanese.

>> No.41638158

>>41638152
exactly

>> No.41638169

>>41638158

Also I don't know why you care, just watch JP content creators.

There was this guy that reviewed every LN release, but he stopped after graduating college :(.

>> No.41638179

>>41638152
more like 100%, with 95% of them also not reading the source material either, and when they do it's overlord, MT, rezero or slime, in that order
>>41638169
i correct that, 100% of the WESTERN ecelebs don't know japanese and 95% don't read the source

>> No.41638196

>>41638077
>>41638132
i bet the translator was also giggling when writing that like a kid thinking swearing = funny

>> No.41638206

>>41638179
Bro don't forget your meds.

>> No.41638208

>>41638063
desu I can see where you are coming from but I also rather think this is high school English lit level of over-interpretation. The TL over-reads into Epsilon's motivations with the shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit but my first thought isn't "petty burger teenager", it's just "man, this is bad character voicing.

>> No.41638212

>>41638113
Yeah you're right, I tried to make it spew out katana reliably in context and it doesn't, not even google does.
Why the hell that's a thing then? There's illustrations of how their swords look, everyone uses straight blades.

>> No.41638217

>>41638208
>u take thing 2 seriously
dumb normalfaggot

>> No.41638227

>>41638212
Bold of you to assume the translator gets the images in context, often all they have is an Excel spreadsheet.

Also side note it doesn't apply in this case but it's not infrequent that in LNs on a tight deadline the illustrator gets things wrong like in a Bookworm illustration where the text explicitly stated the books were stacked one way and the image drew them aligned totally differently.

>> No.41638237

>>41638227
I would never trust LN art. I don't know why the writers have so little control over it.

>> No.41638248

>>41638227
A consistent thing across all illustrations so far about important character stuff like the shape of their weapons equals another artist getting things wrong in one scene how exactly?

>> No.41638256

>>41638248
Nothing at all, I said explicitly in white and purple that it's a side note that doesn't apply in this case. Can you read?

>> No.41638282

>>41638227
given the author seems to have enough veto authority to tardwrangle the anime crew into making it more serious instead of a meme like the manga, do you really think he wouldn't do anything if he actually meant curved katanas?

>> No.41638287

>>41638282
Read, nigger, read.

>> No.41638313

>>41638227
weird cope to defend shit translators, a shit system is still shit
it's always been "shitpress is dogshit" rather than any specific translator they have
JNC consistently manages to be less shit because as a company they actually give half a shit instead of zero shits

>> No.41638328

>>41638313
I just responded directly to anon's wondering how this could conceivably happen when multiple illustrations exist. I'm not sure why this has to turn into an argument about defending shit translators, unless you're reading the post you want to tilt against rather than what is actually written.

>> No.41638333

>every single discussion about translations quickly nosedives into shitting on translators
nice
this is not sarcasm by the way, it's weirdly satisfying and i dunno why

>> No.41638355

>>41638333
it was a discussion started explicitly by asking for specifics on what the trouble was with a certain translation, so idk if it's as natural or consistent as you like to fantasize

>> No.41638363

>>41638355
eh you would be surprised, this stuff can get surprisingly heated

>> No.41638375

>>41638363
but I don't want to shit on translators, I just want to read

>> No.41638387

>>41638375
but it's cathartic, even after learning enough japanese to read things raw

>> No.41638401

>>41638387
it's tiring and redundant after a while when all I want to do is post infinite dendrogram

>> No.41638411

>Dendrofags keep appearing from under the bed when you least expect them.
AIEEEEEEEE

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>>41638387
It's cathartic the first 1-2 times but after that life is too short to spend it being permanently angry at the same thing, I would rather use it to talk about the best girl and why it's the maddo scientisto SJW.

>> No.41638505

To be honest I find it really funny the thread usually has low activity then suddenly every 1-3 days 50-200 posts drop within the span of a few hours because someone's autism flared up.

>> No.41638506

>>41638401

So, WN or LN?

>> No.41638535

>>41638505
ln readers tend to be lurkers so i guess it's not that weird

>> No.41638677

>>41638506
mostly reading LN TL, raw WN for spoiling specific stuff every now and again but it's pretty taxing to try to read it properly in japanese instead of using chrome MTL shortcuts.

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41638773

Where to find LN for the parry manga? I can’t find it on VN meido

>> No.41638831

>>41638677

What are the differences anyways

>> No.41638999

>>41638831
there's a LN-original volume that I think is treated as WN canon now and stuff like episode superior are presented in a different order but otherwise it's 99% the same afaik

>> No.41639871

>>41638441
This series has great audiobooks.

>> No.41641672

>>41639871
anime hogwarts of all things has audiobooks?

>> No.41643698

Nanatsu no Maken is so much better than Harry Potter. Really drives home the superiority of Japanese story-telling.

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41643999

For me, it's Shizuku.

>> No.41644041

>>41638063
Thanks for taking the time to point it out. I need to take a plunge and try reading raw.
>>41638773
On first glance this looks like road to kingdom. I realize not because there'd be more girls.

>> No.41644066

>>41643999
i will never understand her odd affinity with ryona
it feels so natural yet at the same time it's really weird it's a thing

>> No.41645073

>>41638208
>over-interpretation of a western rpg? totally acceptable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh56xrKVkn4
>over-interpretation of dark souls 2.5? totally acceptable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD6qsOPTaKQ
>over-interpretation of yet another yoko taro salad? totally acceptable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoZoG3FOQhU
>over-interpretation of a pokemon game for literally 7 hours? totally acceptable by normalfag standards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFC6mDKF-0c
>over-interpretation of a particular character in a series? eh it's overlord, it FEELS mature enough, totally acceptable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJgVMEvdslg
>over-interpretation of a particular SCENE in a series? eh it's MT, it FEELS mature enough, totally acceptable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7QriUrCF14
>a few paragraphs that's are just pretty much just repeating a character's backstory dump, while talking about the closing moments of that very same flashback as an example of a bad translation? nope, unacceptable, this is too weeb, this is high school English lit level of over-interpretation, shut it down, there's no depth here, the curtains were fucking blue
fucking retard

>> No.41645257

>>41645073
the west has a paradoxical pseudo-intellectual epidemic that also rejects anyone that actually reads into something because it's taking it too seriously, this is why youtube video essays are really shallow shit
you will not find any logic in it either, it boils down to insecurity over wanting to be perceived as mature for consuming mature media but not much else
and let's be real, a lot of it comes from xenophobia and wanting to shit on jp media for being from a different culture, hence the ones they accept always tend to be "mature" things that are not "too weeb" which they can treat as "one of the good ones" like MT, overlord, slime, etc

>> No.41645439

>>41638313
True,the translator for Overlord is a frigging tranny,and you cant trust those people not to be politically correct and ruin stuff.

>> No.41645445

>>41645073
>>41645257
Take your meds, schizo. You can't fucking read, you're hallucinating words that nobody actually wrote in this thread.

>> No.41645548

>>41645445
ah yes my bad it's not explained by an eceleb video essay therefore it must not exist

>> No.41645607

>>41645548
If you weren't an utter cretin with Japan hating eceleb westerners living rent free in his head, you'd be able to comprehend that all I said was that getting "petty burger teenager" out of the shiiiit line is an overextrapolation of that one line, which has nothing to do with the actual Power in the Shadows itself. What the everlasting dicks does this have to do with xenophobic ironic weebs, you spaz? Go screech autistically at the actual westfags you're so angry about.
P.S. Mushoku Tensei is turboweeb as fuck, many normalfags dropped it because of the MC being a lolicon.

>> No.41645641

>>41645607
>*angry schizo noises*

>> No.41645680

>>41645641
cope

>> No.41645682

>>41645607
why do xenophobic westerners get so mad when called out? you simultaneously seethe about "no akshually it's not that", but also "even if it is, it doesn't count" but also "even if it counts, it's what you like anyway so you're wrong either way"
>>41645680
and now it devolves to /v/ shitpost spam

>> No.41645741
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>>41645682
Since you're apparently content to talk to your strawman delusions to shit up the thread rather than reading or responding to anything that was actually posted, I'm just going to call you an illiterate retard and stop replying from here, as it's self-evident to anybody else with a pair of brain cells reading that you're having a schizophrenic melty.

>> No.41645762

>>41645741
lol

>> No.41645854

So, anyone read any good light novels lately?

>> No.41645867

>>41645854
>good
Why do people love walking into this landmine?
If you want recs just ask normally.

>> No.41645889

>>41645867
It was a tongue in cheek post meant to get us away from autism posting but it seems I just ended up riling yours instead.

>> No.41645912

>>41645889
anon where do you think you are
everyone here has autism
including you, if you didn't you wouldn't be here

>> No.41645918

>>41645854
thinking about picking up 不死者の弟子

>> No.41645938

how hard is an average 小説 compared with an average ラノベ ?

>> No.41645968

>>41645938
if you mean "reel literature" then depends on the writer, most of them have a set of obscure kanji they love spamming, learn that and it's basically the same as a LN
the worst ones are the ones that love bragging about the obscure keigo they know, but again, learn it and it's smooth sailing

>> No.41645995

>>41645938
Assuming you're not talking something written in classical Japanese or some shit, it's exactly the same.

>> No.41646120

Autism.

>> No.41646488

>>41645741
I wanted to comment earlier into the conversation that one of the /a/nons from the general very notably has a bone to pick with youtube celebrities and their audiences. I didn't think it was appropriate at the time because I couldn't even be sure that he was in this thread.
Now I know, and my warning comes too late.

It's the same guy who rejects opinions because they smell of youtube videos to him.

>> No.41646590

>>41646488
Why do t/a/rds like you keep thinking your shit board culture and grudges matter here? Why do you faggots keep bringing it up?

>> No.41646633

>>41646590
You ought to instead ask the lunatic who started an off-topic derailment tirade apropos of nothing but his own paranoid fantasies.

>> No.41646634

>>41646590
I brought up no board culture. And the "grudge" that I might have, is the same thing that blew up just a few posts ago.
If you know that somebody is mentally ill, you won't push points you know won't get you anywhere. Unless you just want to piss people off.

>> No.41646642

>>41646633
>the lunatic who started an off-topic derailment tirade apropos of nothing but his own paranoid fantasies.
You mean like you are right now?

>> No.41646653

>>41646488
Who wouldn't have a grudge against ecelebs though? They are all dumb.

>> No.41646657

>>41646642
>no u
fantastic argument anon a true classic I award you 1.5 internets to celebrate your winrar

>> No.41646681

>>41646653
But what does it have to do with light novels and the topic at hand?

>> No.41646683

>>41646653
The question is whether the other party actually brings one up, or you just suspect that they might have been on youtube.
I've seen the line blurred when people accused others of having seen a particular video (and repeating its arguments), but I see nothing wrong with trying to discuss arguments that others have used (so long as you don't use the source as some sort of authority and keep the discussion strictly away from the ecelebs).

>> No.41646776

>>41646683
Pretty sure the argument that started this second autism flare up instead of a simple "ecelebs bad" it was closer to:
>Yeah sure, it's looking too much into things if it's not approved by mainstream western fanbases, namely by having some eceleb making videos telling everyone how deep and mature something is.
So it's not really "eceleb arguments bad" but more "yeah if it's not something everyone thinks of as mature then it's not taken seriously".
Which really, has been a thing all deep otaku have dealt with for what, almost 30 years now?

>> No.41646890

>>41646776
An argument which was a total non sequitur from the post to which he was actually responding, and which only served as an excuse to post a ton of YouTube videos about which to get angry, and for which nearly every follow up reply mentions ecelebs and YouTube videos, but sure, it's not really about the YouTubers.

>> No.41647115

>>41646890
don't go running away from your argument like a bitch now, it originally was "you're looking too much into it" to which i replied yeah it's like that unless it's eceleb approved isn't it?
you're focusing too much on the eceleb part of it to avoid the fact you got BTFO

>> No.41647171

i just scroll through barely skimming posts that all seem to be arguing, it kinda feels like your threads on /a/ devolved into endless arguing and you guys came here expecting things would be different

>> No.41647174

>>41647115
>everyone who disagrees with me is one person
Protip, illiteratebro, what exactly did he think the other guy was reading too much into? Think again about it, this is my first and only hint to you in the hopes you stop embarrassing yourself dreadfully with your windmill tilting.

>> No.41647192

>>41647171
To be fair it is different, the autism is way more concentrated, way more so.
Compared to this the threads on /a/ are basically dead and mostly surface level shitposting where nobody has any stakes in anything.
It's not like it's all that bad either, someone put the effort to say in more concrete words why a translation was awful instead of just saying "shitpress bad" like usual.

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the /u/ LN thread is better

>> No.41647213

>>41647202
I literally only know that board from schizos complaining about it site-wide.

>> No.41647233

>>41647202
I like the tism rampages here though, it feels like early 4chan again.

>> No.41647243

>>41647233
seeing as troons live rent free in people's heads here too, this isn't early 4chan, it's a pale echo.

>> No.41647247

>>41647243
But nobody mentioned trans people until you did.

>> No.41647250

>>41647247
please use ctrl+F first before posting

>> No.41647257

>>41647250
>1 result.

>> No.41647265

>>41647257
would you eat a parfait that had one scoop of shit on the top?

>> No.41647290

>>41647233
the autism, it calls...

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>>41647290
any /m/fags here? i bet that will be the next autism flareup

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>>41647329
don't assume /m/chads will ever come down to your level

>> No.41647413

>>41647398
...was this AI generated?

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>>41647413
no

>> No.41647435

Autism...

>> No.41647468

>>41647329
I'm still reading 86 if that counts. Asato's railgun autism is amusing.

>> No.41647539

>>41647398
Any /m/ fag is autistic by default though, it's practically a requirement.

>> No.41647879

Does the resident schizo even know japanese? JP ecelebs are more casual and shallow than the others.

>>41645938
Some are really fucking easy, like konbini ningen, the easiest novel I've read bar none.

>> No.41648089

>>41647171
>your threads on /a/ devolved into endless arguing
Sorry for blog.
They didn't. I wish they did.
The posts fell largely into two categories: Meaningless nothings that seemed to be posted to fish for replies, and meaningless nothings that were posted to fill some sort of imagined void.
Half of them were ritual-posts.
Most "arguments" were just stale reruns of prior ones, generally involving the same anons, the same talking points and the same pastas.
Close to the only thing that seemed actually alive was the endless complaining about NTR - driven by people who I felt certain were actively seeking out NTR in fiction so they could complain about it.

Actual arguments were the rare moments when the threads seemed almost readable to me. I was filtering so much at the end.

>> No.41648933

Tourist here asking because I'm stumped. Is there any raw scans for Chiramune from vol. 5?
That said I don't know of any other sites to get raws besides the ones in the OP

>> No.41649269

>>41648089
>driven by people who I felt certain were actively seeking out NTR in fiction so they could complain about it.
That's not even a question, they admit to actively seeking that shit just to complain.

>> No.41649338

>>41647879
Why do people keep bringing up ecelebs when the argument was about something else?

>> No.41649614

>>41648933
looked it up and at least on dlraw there's only up to vol 4
the disadvantage of being a piratefag is slow uploads, sometimes they take months to upload a new volume
>>41649338
it's convenient to derail and dismiss the argument because it makes them uncomfortable to realize so much of their lives is controlled by what others think is socially acceptable

>> No.41649637

>>41649614
all the cope and deflection in the world doesn't change the fact that you were sperging out at a post that didn't say what you thought it did

>> No.41649657

>>41649637
well that's what further clarification is for isn't it? are you going to stop avoiding the point now?

>> No.41649676

>>41649657
that anon already clarified in the first reply, you just chose to double down and deflect instead of admitting illiteracy on an ANONYMOUS fucking imageboard kek

>> No.41649681

>>41649657
Dunno how bad /a/ has gotten over the years, but your grievance over normalfags refusing to take otaku media seriously is really, REALLY old news.

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>>41649338
because that's what retards always do

>> No.41649702

>>41649681
doesn't make it any less true though

>> No.41649735

>>41649687
nice projection man who made 5 posts screeching about youtubers before anybody told him to shut up

>> No.41649740

>>41649735
the argument wasn't about ecelebs though

>> No.41649744

>>41649735
i wasn't part of the arguing though, not even an /a/fag

>> No.41649765

>>41649740
>derails discussion about tl quality to complain about youtubers for no reason >41638136 >41638179
>misreads opinion that a translation is being overinterpreted to start complaining about people who watch youtubers, posts half a dozen off topic youtube videos >41645073
>doubles down by insinuating that anon only accepts the opinions of youtubers after getting called out for being unable to read
>41645548

please show me on this doll where the eceleb touched you anon

>> No.41649783

If all /a/fags argue like redditors trying to get the last word in, no wonder some people are refugees with this general.

>> No.41649789

>>41649783
Redditors don't need to get the last word in, they just need to get more updoots than the other guy.

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>New overlap wave of volume covers released.
>Only TRPG is noteworthy.
http://blog.over-lap.co.jp/shoei_2211/
Kinda boring wave this time, but hey at least the spider is back.

>> No.41650094

>>41650039
that is a pretty lame lineup indeed

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>>41650039
nice, i started reading it the other day, it's pretty fun

>> No.41650484

all the series i'm reading just had releases in the past 1-2 months so there probably won't be anything interesting to me for a while

>> No.41650493

reading classroom of the elite (read 2 volumes) and i don't get it how it is waaaay better than the anime i just watched whatever was covered in the first volume.

>> No.41650494

>>41650484
Why don't you pick up something new?

>> No.41650522

>>41650484
sucks to have joined late the JP train, i read slow and i'm already behind in volumes on most things i'm following

>> No.41652422

>someone reads TRPG here
there's like....5 of us!

>> No.41652848

it's on my backlog

>> No.41653153

I'm thinking of reading it.

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>>41647213
Remembering Gridman makes me realize there's always a random piece of truth from the schizo mess.

>> No.41653735

>>41653590
should i even ask

>> No.41653915

>>41653735
I didn't watch Gridman, but the GOT is very clearly She Who Must Not Be Named, the insane yurifag spammer who thinks the entire board is her samefagging nemesis, and she is part of the silent majority, who goes from yurithread to yurithread to continue a both never-ending and one-sided argument with that fictive enemy of his/hers. Keeps getting banned and getting every post deleted, but rapidly reposting and complaining that the mods are protecting a mentally ill shitposter. Even has a bunch of collages to prove that the entire board is really samefagging.
Capable of speech, but immune to communication.

>> No.41653946

>>41653915
I love imageboards, but posters like that are really our greatest weakness. Not even literal bot and shill posts have managed to be as insufferable as that guy. Hopefully someone murders him in real life or something and he disappears for good.

>> No.41654653

>>41650039
Didn't the spider WN have a horrible ending

>> No.41654749

>>41645257
>"one of the good ones" like MT
You haven't read MT if you genuinely think it's not too weeb or palatable for westfags. Like seriously why even lie about this?

>> No.41654803

>>41654653
that's not kumo though

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>>41654749
NTA but the people that think MT is "weeb stuff" are newfags, it's hardly "too weeb" by itself, the author uses rudeus for a few token pervert scenes "because that's what a neet otaku" would do but that's about it, it has rudeus grope eris a few times "because that's what MCs in animes do", it's a normalfag's shallow idea of what "weeb stuff" is supposed to be, without actually knowing anything about it.
Not only that, once he fucks and marries the elf he basically stops doing that stuff altogether outside the bedroom, at least until the author remembers that he's supposed to be a neet otaku and adds some panty sniffing joke somewhere before quickly glossing over it.
This like many other things show how much the author is ashamed of sharing the LN medium with "neet otaku weebs", unsurprisingly normalfags tend to opinion it would be better if those scenes were removed.

It's a problem of intensity really, the most notorious stuff in MT is rudeus sniffing some panties and rudeus screaming porn game lines while fucking the (totally mature and "legal") elf raw, that's kind of it.
Now let's take a look at no game no life, which has (just from the top of my head), the MC using the rules of the world to make a girl fall for him which then he proceeds to awkwardly grope like a virgin (because he is) with the help of his 12 year old sister, the MC shouting like a madman over getting everyone (including his sister) naked but with the genitals censored in-universe, him trying to make a diplomatic deal over the panties of the aforementioned girl and the panties of an animal eared loli, an army of robo-lolis (actual lolis) trying to get the MC to have sexual intercourse with him AFTER they used his porn stash to calculate his sexual interests, a comedy skit where some other character's device does some stuff and gives everyone giant boobs and the MC ruthlessly mocks the perflat girl for their shallow smugness, the MC's sister trapping him in a BDSM dungeon and pretty much conditioning him to love her (romantically) while she wears a revealing demon lord outfit, I could go on all day really.
Compared to this? Yeah MT is hardly "weeb" and way too palatable to westfags.

>> No.41654979

>>41619785
Oh I get it, the first movie has literally just came out. Does it finally have nipples?

>> No.41654992

>>41654934
>how much the author is ashamed of sharing the LN medium with "neet otaku weebs"
Stop projecting your persecution complex onto other people, the author has made it clear in interviews that he wrote precisely what he wanted to write and cribbed a ton of shit from his favourite jrpgs, eroge like rance and toshin toshi, and other slave harem tier narou webfics. Citing NGNL as the benchmark for how weeb is weebshit is just the true scotsman fallacy.
https://www.phantaporta.com/2017/10/113.html

>> No.41655000

>>41654992
>All his inspirations are entry level shit.
I mean, that's exactly the point.
Nice attempt at dodging the main point though.

>> No.41655013

>>41654992
>disingenuously trying to pass off mushocuck tensei as what a LN should be
>unironically using the term "weebshit" like an ironic weeb while doing it
i don't want to say this is cultural imperialism from the west, BUT...

>> No.41655027

>>41654992
>MTards thinking anyone gives a shit about their entry level crap.
Lol.

>> No.41655030

>>41655000
How, precisely, does one make the leap from "his admitted powerlevel isn't high enough" to "he's clearly ASHAMED to be in the same website as those fucking hikkineets"? This just screams of insecurity.

>> No.41655054

>>41655030
I'm talking about what he wrote though, and how that writing comes off ass.
The point is MT itself is way too tame and the few "weeb" stuff it has is token moments to try too hard to fit in.

>> No.41655069

>>41654934
>NTA but the people that think MT is "weeb stuff" are newfags
>Now let's take a look at no game no life
>How to out yourself as a newfag in record time
In to the garbage your opinion goes

>> No.41655072

why do disingenuous redditors always derail arguments with the slightest shit once they know they got BTFO

>> No.41655085

>>41655072
because that's how debates work on the more mainstream parts of the internet

>> No.41655087

>>41655000
>>41655013
>>41655027
You're that one MT hater that keeps getting btfo on MT /a/ threads aren't you

>> No.41655090

>>41655087
and now we have anon labeling
this general truly is a /a/ refugee shit bucket

>> No.41655095

>>41655054
That's a fine opinion to have, I just disagreed on the "he's ashamed" extrapolation, how much otaku culture has to actually seep into the writing for normalfags to be turned off, and NGNL being the gold standard to be TRULY "too weeb". Primarily about the "ashamed" part though. Don't care about the other guy's weak bait.

>> No.41655098

>>41655090
shitposters already ruined /a/ generals, with the end result being this general being made to avoid that shit
of course they will try to ruin this too now that those /a/ generals are dead as shit

>> No.41655112

>>41654934

What's the most otaku LN

>> No.41655132

>>41655095
trying to argue how "weeb" something needs to be is a trap, it's like trying to argue about what a good LN is. you just need to call the other guy a newfag/shit taste haver and leave and that kills all actual debate

>> No.41655137

>>41655090
>>41655098
I think this thread is critically lacking in content discussion.
The meta is so prevalent because there is nothing more interesting going on.

I say this and I am very much aware that I am not putting anything decent forward. I suck at starting topics. I just really enjoy nitpicking things.

>> No.41655140

>>41655095
You're fine to disagree, but that doesn't mean I have to care about your opinion.
You're missing the point though, trying to measure exactly down to the millimeter how much "weeb juice" do you need for it to fit in is exactly the point I'm making though, it's outsider work and the proof is in the fact you somehow take that as an insult.
Don't you see the irony? Otaku stuff in the first place was always and remains fringe shit outside the norm, that this subculture got treated as something mainsteam after normalfags tried to get their grubby hands on it is a different matter, you don't realize the irony of trying to make the series you like "fit in" the definition of being "outside" the norm?.

>> No.41655163

>>41655137
I will repeat the points from earlier, LN reading is inherently introvert and talking about something means spoilers, which introverted LN readers aren't going to do because it's like an affront to a particular series, which they are already emotionally close to.
Sure you could do what other generals in other boards do and start making memes but that's not really "content" it also invites people that by all definition are secondaries, you would be surprised how many people on VN threads don't read the stuff they (shit)post about.

>> No.41655172

>>41655140
I'm not taking anything as an insult, though. I simply disagreed with the other guy on including MT on the list of westfag-friendly series that normalfags consider "acceptably" mature, given how much shitflighting from said normalfags I observed around the time of the first handful of anime adaptation episodes airing and its first exposure to the wider audience. I just think that it doesn't belong on that list as a result, from my own subjective viewpoint on how normalfags view it. You're ascribing motivations that are entirely alien to anything I actually typed.

>> No.41655183

>>41655090
This board had /a/ refugees from the beginning. Hell, i found out about the first LN thread from /a/.

>>41655095
> I just disagreed on the "he's ashamed" extrapolation, how much otaku culture has to actually seep into the writing for normalfags to be turned off, and NGNL being the gold standard to be TRULY "too weeb".
All of this. no game no life is surface level weeb degeneracy at best. All stick and no carrot

>> No.41655201

>>41655163
>talking about something means spoilers
And I don't think that's a problem. For many years, I have long enjoyed discussions on anime or manga that I had not watched (or finished) at the time.
I think the greatest issue with that would be that you would need to be patient with people jumping into the discussion with uneducated opinions.

But again, I realize the hypocrisy in telling others to do what I am not doing.

>> No.41655220

Anyway...

i really like failure frame. It get's labled as another arifute but imo has a completely different feel to it. MC really commits to the revenge bit without trying to justify it, and straight throws pride out the window when necessary. Also love Seras

>> No.41655260

>>41655172
I will explain this step by step.
One, you are trying to disprove the notion of it being "westfag friendly", because you perceive it being "westfag friendly" to be a negative thing to be called as.
If you didn't perceive it as a negative thing you wouldn't be vehemently trying to prove me wrong on that.
Two, it's clear you hold MT close to your heart, that's nice, everyone has a series that does that, LN or from any other medium, this isn't a problem, that's perfectly fine.
But you're like the other retard blowing a fuse and starting another autism flareup with his rant of otaku stuff not being taken seriously, and it's clear neither of you are used to the things you like not being taken seriously or being easily dismissed, because otherwise neither of you would mind, you both would just ignore the posts.
THAT is the true reason you're both newfags, but that's fine, everyone was new once, if you really want to get into "otaku stuff" and are mainly on english speaking communities you both have to learn what you like will get looked down upon and scoffed at 999 times out of 1000, and stop with the autism flares because fucking hell the metaposting is getting annoying.
At least have the autism flares over combat autismos or things from actual LNs like the other day rather than the context around them.

>> No.41655295

>>41655260
>like the other retard blowing a fuse and starting another autism flareup with his rant of otaku stuff not being taken seriously
>THAT is the true reason you're both newfags, but that's fine, everyone was new once, if you really want to get into "otaku stuff" and are mainly on english speaking communities you both have to learn what you like will get looked down upon and scoffed at 999 times out of 1000, and stop with the autism flares because fucking hell the metaposting is getting annoying.
when you put it like that it does make me feel bad, i admit to be a filthy /a/ refugee so i'm not used to not being aggressive all the time while posting
sorry for the spam guys
i'm actually sorry

>> No.41655299

>>41655220
I only tried the manga and the MC was immediately disagreeable to me. Like a teenager who was way too full of himself. Mocking others for feeling too secure in their victories before the battles were over, when he had the exact same confidence (except his abilities were of course invincible).

>> No.41655307

>>41655137
>>41655163
I think one problem with LN discussion (aside from the inherent niche) is that everyone is away more fragmented and its hard to actually find a topic/series to discussion that a reasonable amount of people have read. As a rough comparison, VNs, while also being niche, do have a relatively well-established set of famous/popular works that a decent amount of people have read. LNs don't really have too much of that.

>> No.41655335

>>41655260
>because you perceive it being "westfag friendly" to be a negative thing to be called as.
Mate, I never said it was negative OR positive, because it's tangential to my point. I just think the guy is plain wrong, full stop, and that is all I have ever been trying to say. I will admit I am somewhat miffed by his posts, but moreso by them being thread derailments, rather than about his opinions on MT in particular. I would seriously suggest rereading my posts by taking them at face value alone, particularly as you're assuming I care more about MT than I actually do, and reading more resentment into my posts than actually exists as a result.

>> No.41655358

>>41655299
As always, i'd say try the LN if you wanna get a fair shake at the series. But i can understand why this MC wont appeal to everyone's palate. for one thing, it's less that he was mocking the soul eater and more preying on their ego to force a mistake. If anything that happening a bit to frequently was my complaint.

>> No.41655384

>>41655307
>As a rough comparison, VNs, while also being niche, do have a relatively well-established set of famous/popular works that a decent amount of people have read. LNs don't really have too much of that.
Yes and no, they do because that's what everyone reads, that's how popularity works.
Here there's dendro at least, the actual difference is it seems a lot of the general seems to be /a/ refugees and another group seems to be people that know japanese and can just read the raws.
The jump from EOP-manga-only to jp-raw-reader is way too big, that's the real fragmentation point rather than having no popular works to talk about.

>> No.41655404

>>41655220
it was made around the time arifureta was at it's golden age of popularity and has almost the same setup
by the time the MC gets out of the dungeon they are already completely different stories though
>Also love Seras
despair.jpg

>> No.41655407

>>41655358
>it's less that he was mocking the soul eater and more preying on their ego to force a mistake.
Yeah, you are describing it better. I am also unfairly mixing the narration with his actual personality. It just felt highly narcissistic to me.

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This shit? This is why /jp/ VN general was so resistant to being made to live in the same general as /a/ and /v/ VN generals when /vg/ was made. Half the greentext in this thread isn't even quoting anybody!

>> No.41655428

>>41655412

that's an EOP problem

>>41655307

This too, noone discusses popular shit on エロゲスレ aside trolling masamune and subahibi stuff.

>> No.41655437

>>41655412
You aren't exactly wrong, most of the problem is /a/ refugees not adapting and bringing in their passive-aggressive shitposting here.

>> No.41655440

>>41655428

What I'm saying is this should be a ライノベスレ and kick all EOPs.

>> No.41655457

>>41650039
>raws still not available past volume 4-2
my WN to LN changes FOMO... nyoooh...

>> No.41655475

>>41655404
Ah, that explains it then. It's not even the first time a particular isekai setup was borrowed only to go elsewhere
>>41655407
The Ln is from his pov, maybe give it a shot Anon. Beats reading this thread atm

>> No.41655480

>>41655412
>>41655437
To loop back to this post >>41653946
Image boards really weren't made with large groups of people in mind, it worked back then when it was less people, but the internet pushing everyone into a single site ruined the internet, as much as westerners cry about hugboxes the human psyche simply wasn't made to being 24/7 around people actively trying to start shit.
Now everyone is angry and aggressive all the time to the point trying to go back to smaller groups is an uphill battle because they will just devolve into the same sort of shit flinging.

>> No.41655498

>>41655480
I feel honored you quoted my post, but I was talking about literally insane, mentally ill people. Not just trolls and shitposting.

>> No.41655505

>>41655437
*raises hand*
Maybe i need to chill out, sorry anons

>> No.41655517

>>41655475
>Beats reading this thread atm
Currently busy catching up on a few GB yuri.
I'll get around to it™

>> No.41655521

>>41655384
>Yes and no, they do because that's what everyone reads, that's how popularity works.
We need to start some kind of feedback loop here. I guess I should read Dendro. What series are also highly acclaimed and considered kami?

>> No.41655543

>>41655404
>despair.jpg
??? does she die? if yes i'm not reading that shit

>> No.41655557

>>41655498
There's not much difference between the literally insane and the average shitposter nowadays.
Back then both the shitposters the insane weren't (for the lack of a better term at the moment) so politically/tribally aggressive, which was why the insane back then were seen as cooler and the shitposters as trollface delete system32 silly posters.
Nowadays its all "us" vs yurifags, "us" vs normalfags, fucking etc, and now everything has that aggressive tint where everything is a "debate" that has to be "won", which makes both the insane and the trolls be basically the same.

>> No.41655559

>>41655543
Yea, im curious now too. what did you mean by that >>41655404

>> No.41655564

>>41655543
Everybody loves her so much that they despair over not being able to get their hands on her.

>> No.41655573

>>41655543
>>41655559
there's this manga panel where the guy that really wants to FUCK seras is in despair, which gets posted on isek/a/i as despair.jpg
you know the scene, early on where the guy goes schizo lamenting he couldn't FUCK her before she slipped away
sorry for using /a/ memes out of context again, bad habit

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>>41655564
>>41655573
>>41655559
>>41655543

>> No.41655587

>>41655577
yeah this one

>> No.41655590

>>41655573
>>41655577
alright good to know, thanks

>> No.41655612

>>41655521
>and considered kami?
I can just tell this is going to start another autism flare over the measuring of good/bad, because it already did like twice this month.
Which to be fair it is a misleading measurement, but it's one that is fairly hard to replace.

>> No.41655618

>>41655577
KEK
On a related note, I was expecting Failure frame to be 24/7 edge but the MC bonding with the slime was unironically comfy to read.

>> No.41655674

>>41655521
At the risk of being called a newfag and only being able to cite translated stuff and stuff that is already popular, from my own recent personal favorites list and in no particular order are:
>Infinite Dendrogram
Just some good clean action fantasy fun with likeable characters and power matchups revolving around compatibility and strange conceptual effects a la Law of Ueki or Jojo.
>Invaders of the Rokujouma
The most peaceable and good-natured harem LN I have read bar none.
>Tearmoon Empire
A little shit luckshits her way out of the guillotine. Like a reverse pratfall comedy.
>A Wild Last Boss Appears
This is a guilty pleasure of mine. Read it for playground-tier Superman versus Goku "who gives a shit just pump more numbers" powerlevel autism where you give no fucks and just want to see how the author one-ups the powerlevels next.
>Reign of the Seven Spellblades
Like somebody taped an episode of The El-Melloi Case Files over a copy of Harry Potter.
>Min-maxing my TRPG Build in Another World
A slow burning series with a strongly fleshed out world, likeable heroines, and well-choreographed action, but will not be for everybody because it is very wordy.
>The Isolator
A rather thoughtful urban fantasy with themes of loneliness and interpersonal connections with well-developed and explored characters. More maturely written than Kawahara Reki's other works. Sadly stalled.

>> No.41655695

>>41655674
>Invaders of the Rokujouma
are you THE rokufag or does this make two rokufags

>> No.41655703

>>41655674
>>A Wild Last Boss Appears
Good start, but it just gets more tiresome the further you go.

>> No.41655709

>>41655695
I'm not THE rokufag, so that might make two of us. There must surely be more rokufags out there, though, we had /a/ threads and a dedicated mega and an English version print boxset KS and everything.

>> No.41655711

>>41655674
>Like somebody taped an episode of The El-Melloi Case Files over a copy of Harry Potter.
Picked up.

>> No.41655722

>>41655711
That's not how VHS cassettes work, by the way.

>> No.41655728

>>41655674
>Like somebody taped an episode of The El-Melloi Case Files over a copy of Harry Potter.
This is the best description of spellblades, I kneel

>> No.41655729

>>41655674
>urban fantasy
Sorry I meant urban sci-fi. Not fantasy. I don't know how to words.

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>>41655722
Still, it never gets old.

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>>41655674
>At the risk of being called a newfag and only being able to cite translated stuff
it's never too late to LEARN

>> No.41655856

>>41655674
>TRPG
>but will not be for everybody because it is very wordy.
How did they translate it? The raws didn't feel like anything out of the ordinary, or at least not outside what I'm used to.

>> No.41655945

>>41655856
akshually i can answer this one at the risk of sounding aggressive again, because it was one of the ones i started learning jp with
unlike the usual low effort cash grab TL most otaku media gets, this actually got translated properly, so by comparison it has amazing prose in english despite the original being about average for a tism novel
yeah it's localized by jnc if it wasn't obvious

>> No.41655968

>>41655856
I meant more that the author's style seems to be to never say in one sentence what could be said in a paragraph. Did we need three pages on the history of the Empire from its founding to establish that the emperor is elected in a HRE-styled clusterfuck from a human house, a werewolf house, and a vampire house? No, though I liked reading it, most people consider it useless information. But I'm a retard who liked the Muv-Luv Alternative wikidumps.

The author also seems to make it worse in the LN, like for example at one point he added a whole passage talking about that one campaign the MC (read: the author) played where the party decided to seduce and marry the evil dragon instead of fighting it and derailing the plot; this passage didn't need to be there and added nothing other than to further establish that the MC is TTRPG autist. Or a chapter that he extended by 1/3rd the length to add a full introductory cutscene with unnamed stealth airship crew crossing the border and launching wyvern riders because he wanted to do something stea/m/punky.

>> No.41655987

>>41655968
>this passage didn't need to be there and added nothing other than to further establish that the MC is TTRPG autist.
so it served a purpose then, like cid and his maai rants or second and his combat tism rants

>> No.41655998

>>41655945
on the topic of the translation the one really big black mark is the asinine decision to translate "anisama" as "mr brother", which the translator said was because he wanted to emphasize the imouto sounding like a retard that can't into words. which she is, but it was so distracting and so many people assumed that it must have been oniichan that after some feedback one volume later he changed it to "dearest brother" instead (coincidentally coinciding with the imouto's speech level improving as she matured).

>> No.41656010

>>41655968
I hate wordy authors when they can't read the atmosphere of the story they are writing.
Being unnecessarily descriptive in a combat scenario pisses me off.
But giving me background info when the story is at a calm place and the MC is relaxing is fine.

Same for cut-scenes. If the author thinks the MC should arrive at a battlefield where the MC's friends are at acute risk of dying and then just watch while something really impressive happens, I want to punch that author.
But if the MC doesn't need to worry about anyone dying, then yeah, take the time and let me watch that impressive thing together with the MC.

>> No.41656020

>>41655998
oh there's a lot of TL red flags i could go into but that means posting the entire fucking books
there's no point when it boils down to "translations bad" anyway, i would rather talk about the actual content of said books

>> No.41656047

>>41656020
sure, it's just the brother thing is the singularity that took people out of reading that i thought i should make one sentence to complain about it

>> No.41656072

>>41656010
I can only remember one singular instance where I thought the combat's pacing actually got thrown off by an unnecessary simile used to over-explain what was happening, otherwise I thought the author managed the pace adequately.

>> No.41656083

>>41656072
It's on my backlog, anyway. One day...

>> No.41656165

>>41656083
>on my backlog
idk about you but for me that's like saying it's on the far side of the moon, haha...

>> No.41657003

>>41656165
slow reader?

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I can't believe ANN understands Shadow

>> No.41658297

>>41658276
I feel that the intense hatred for isekai is the primary problem to comprehending Cid for most people.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he fire a very limited, targeted nuke in the LN? I think the big blast is anime only.

>> No.41658399

my only exposure to lns is seeing artists i follow on pixiv get picked as the illustrator and then they get adapted into anime
unfortunately this has a high probability of leading me to terrible shit like that piss fetish series

>> No.41659114

>>41658297
shadow is a fucking landmine right now, unlike other things you can't just tell people to read the LN because the translation was done by shitpress and as expected it's terrible
atomic isn't exactly a limited or targeted thing in the LN but he has a lot of control over it, in that scene he just shot it upwards, only the building they were in got vaporized i think and even then only partially and nah the big blast was in the manga too

>> No.41659151

>>41658276
>kinda understand the dark and dry humor aspect
>still fumbles it at the end anyway by calling it a parody
what happened to the west that everything comedic gets called a parody or satire now?

>> No.41659176

>>41659151
he doesn't call it a parody though

>> No.41659183

>>41659176
he does call it a caricature though, which implies something around those lines

>> No.41659200

>>41659183
he calls cid an edgelord caricature, which is... not wrong?

>> No.41659211

>>41659200
and that belief is the problem, shadow is 100% unironic, and i really do want to see what are the edgelord heroes he thinks shadow is a caricature of
the over the top one is cid, his mob persona
why people can't understand something so basic?

>> No.41659215

>>41659183
he says CID is a caricature, he doesn't say the story is a parody, you have to read what it says and not what you want to rage against the West

>> No.41659226

>>41659215
i doubt the article writer really makes a distinction between the two, cid doesn't really do one liners and powerful attacks, that's shadow

>> No.41659227

>>41659211
You can be a caricature unironically. Like how you're being a caricature of /a/utism right now.

>> No.41659238

>>41659151
Everyone is choking in so many layers of irony from the fear of coming off as genuine that they forgot people can be genuine.

>> No.41659248

>>41659238
you just described 4chan(nel).

>> No.41659261

>>41659211
he says you're supposed to see this caricature as truly badass and cool which sounds unironic to me

>> No.41659268

>>41659248
Which is kinda the point? Doing that isn't exactly a good thing, you know?

>> No.41659278

>>41659268
it's what keeps the Reddit out

>> No.41659282

>>41659238
makes sense, and yeah shit's fucked then

>> No.41659299

>>41659278
I don't know what to tell you, the ironic weebs that tend to frequent sites like reddit do exactly that to fit in.
You aren't keeping them out, you're inviting them in.
But with that attitude I guess now we know why 4chan went to shit.

>> No.41659321

>>41659238
This, just admitting straight up shadow is cool would be too "childish" for them, so they have to hide behind it being ironic/parody/satire/deconstruction/caricature/whatever the fuck buzzword they are using now to justify their "guilty pleasures" like abused housewives.

>> No.41659338

>>41659321
what on earth are you talking about, shadow IS over the top and the text says black and white that he DID like him for how cool he was while being that. you're just nitpicking semantics

>> No.41659426

>>41659321
i knew shadow discussion would go to shit once the mainstream found him but it's worse than i expected
really now, why are they even consuming any anime stuff at all if they care so much about how other people see them? meanwhile i have seen at least 2 lunatics on /a/ that started a training and study regime like cid while already assuming they will get isekai'd when they die

>> No.41659449

typing this post while doing push-ups on one finger

>> No.41659459

>>41659426
>i have seen at least 2 lunatics on /a/ that started a training and study regime like cid while already assuming they will get isekai'd when they die
Now that's the cool kind of insane if it actually happened.

>> No.41659567

>>41659459
How hard would that be really? You would think at the bare minimum getting fit would be easy, but good luck figuring out how to do that on the sea of misinformation that is the modern internet, especially when it comes to health and fitness.
Meanwhile the guy straight up enhanced his body magically and routinely fucks with biological functions like sleep with seemingly no downsides or side effects.

>> No.41659843

>>41659567
Shadow only really knows combat, fitness and medicine in general, that's the venn diagram that covers his search for power.
So good luck figuring any of that out, medical knowledge is not exactly easy.

>> No.41661306

>>41659215
I just want to point out it's really funny you get so insecure and defensive about anything that implies west bad, whatever slight it may be.
In /jp/.
Like, just saying.

>> No.41661983

>>41659567
>how hard would it be to master every martial art on the planet

>> No.41662117

>>41661983
akshually that's misleading, what the guy did was create his own after practicing a lot of them
which is still hard but more doable, more so when they share the same fundamentals like footwork, maai and control over the self

>> No.41662179

>>41605535
they're all there on zlibrary

>> No.41662418

>>41655521
>>41655674
Let's continue the feedback loop, give me the cover of something you want to shill for next OP, I will update the OP while I'm at it.
The japanese cover obviously, even if you're EOP.

>> No.41662485

>>41662179

That's such a nice webpage why isnt it on the pastebin?

>> No.41662516

>>41662485
probably because it's mostly western stuff and the few translated LNs it has are already on the main nyaa dumps
and it feels the majority of people here can already read japanese, so...

>> No.41662523

>>41662516

You mean can't? I was on the lookout for more sources for raw LNs.

We should have a raw ln pastebin or something

>> No.41662541

>>41662523
has anyone found any places for raws outside of dlraw?

>> No.41662890
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>>41662418

>> No.41663153

>>41662485
It's been better than nyaa for me. Even the niche books are accessible, unlike with dead torrents.

I've even uploaded a few missing books myself, which I couldn't do on nyaa.

Also booklists: booklist.is/booklist/119096/86116e

>> No.41663238

>>41663153

Very nice.
Does anybody know the best way to conver EPUBs to AZW3 or MOBI? Most just fuck up the files with japanese books.

>> No.41663309

Next: >>41663294
I don't manage the pastebin, I just make new OPs.

>> No.41664006

>>41663309
Isn't it way too early for the next thread?

>> No.41664047

>>41664006
Now that you mention it, probably.
I usually wait until page 8.

>> No.41664135

Welp, got SAOAGGO 11 english preordered, go ahead and laugh at me.

>> No.41664153

>>41664135
I may laugh because it's the english TL, not because it's SAO.
Truth be told it's still reading, so all is well.

>> No.41664166

So Is Dengeki Bunko a magazine? Or just a publisher? I know manga magazines have all kinds of guidelines, like Comic ryu is cool with nipples but Dragon Age isn't. And ero-manga probably have their own magazines right?

Are there LN publishers that specialize in ultra sexy LNs, that feature lots of ero?

>> No.41664167

>>41664135
haha

>> No.41664607

>>41661306
im a SEAnig bro, I just think constant misreading for west complaining purposes is tiring to read

>> No.41664635

>>41664166
I mean there are outright H LN publishers like Atomic Bunko and 2D Dream Bunko.

>> No.41664770

>>41663238
Have you tried Amazon's own Kindlegen?

>> No.41664801

>>41664607
No, you don't understand. The west invented NTR and irony and youtube and usury and women's rights and basically everything bad in the world.

>> No.41664851

>>41664770
Thanks it worked, I downloaded Kindle Previewer and that comes with kindlegen already.

>> No.41664871

>>41664801
Do all /a/ refugees argue like pretentious teenagers or it's just you?

>> No.41664904

>>41664871
That was a tongue in cheek post made by somebody who was not involved in the conversation. I am sorry if it agitated you. That was not the intent. I thought I had sufficiently exaggerated to make it clear that it was not to be taken seriously.

>> No.41664916

>>41664904
I will take that as a yes.

>> No.41664944

>>41664916
Okay.

>> No.41664992

>>41664770
>Have you tried Amazon's own Kindlegen?
lol, i've spent so many hours of my life fucking around with calibre to try and get japanese books converted properly and this just fucking does it right out of the box

>> No.41665033

>>41664992

Exactly, nothing else worked right.

>> No.41665038

>>41664635
Are they branches of dengeki bunko?

>> No.41665059

whats ur obsession with dengeki bunko they publish sao it's not a smut publisher lol

>> No.41665170

>>41665059
I'm not obsessed, I'm just trying to understand their corporate structure, for instance Mitsubishi makes cars ,heavy industries and has a bank, they're horizontally and vertically integrated,or at least they used to be.

>> No.41665211

>>41665170
pretty sure bunko is a publisher with it's own magazine

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just watched the first three eps of the shadow anime and enjoying the shit out of it
i don't know how it fares compared to the manga but having listened to the ln audiobooks twice i think they're doing a good job

>> No.41665238

>>41665223
it seems that's a consistent opinion, wn/lnfags seem to like it so far despite the lore breaking changes, especially the jp readers
meanwhile the manga readers seem to hate it
but please keep watching until ep 5 before posting more so you don't get spoiled about THAT moment, you know which one

>> No.41665307

>>41665238
I loved the voice acting of that. It was pitch-perfect chuuni.

>> No.41667334

Posting it again before this thread dies.
>>41663294

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>>41664635
>2D Dream Bunko
That is mostly all I read
Well, right now I'm in the middle of Bitchful Adventures of Magical Princess Makina from Beginning Novels, but most of my library is 2D Dream Bunko
>Atomic Bunko
I'm gonna read those Shishunki na Adam books one of these days

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