Hatsukoi Translation Thread

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

What is this?

/jp/ has started on a project to translate the visual novel Hatsukoi, one of the highest rated according to the Japanese.

Are you in need of translators?

Of course! Anyone with knowledge of Japanese (and English) is welcome to join in and start translating with the simple and easy-to-use REtrans™ Web Interface.

Are you in need of editors?

Definitely. You don't even need to know Japanese to help improve the English text, so your participation is encouraged.

What is the length/progress/ETA?

The total length of the content is approximately 32k lines. We are slightly below 40% as of this post. At our current rate of ~3800 lines a week, we'll finish sometime in February. But the more translators we have, the faster everyone can enjoy the results!

Translator interface
http://rechan.eu.org/go/retrans-hatsukoi

Old threads
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3995516
(Just follow the linked list from there, I'm not going to put the whole thread history here.)

Official site
http://products.rune.jp/catalogue/r011hatsukoi/

Game
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2CGBVJMX

Lite Version
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D7VB4HFS
Hacked exe for Lite Version and Normal Version
http://rapidshare.com/files/274090860/_hatsukoi.exe

Press Release
http://rechan.eu.org.nyud.net/pr/rwi_pr_1.pdf

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

Detailed progress as of 2010-01-10 06:00:00 4ST

ANZU 1339/5616
B 76/76
C 0/127
COCO 234/4937
COMMON 6754/6754
D 187/187
E 12/12
KARIN 427/4486
KOMOMO 603/7127
M 24/24
P 7/7
S 0/650
V 21/21
YUSUMI 3710/4435
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TOTALS 13394/34459 38.869%

[Anonymous No.]

From 0 line a week to ~3800 lines a week.
Awesome comeback!

I guess we don't need to wait till the end of the universe now.

[Anonymous No.]

I've always wondered, what's this game about?

[Anonymous No.]

Is /jp/ even interested in this game anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4110608
was /jp/ ever interested? Also, this translation is going to suck balls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4110523
The game title means First Love. It's a romance eroge where the two primary routes (the ones with the most lines and both girls seen on the cover) are Komomo, a girl his best friend is in love with, and Anzu, the protagonist's blood related sister.

Once translated this will be the first translated eroge with a blood related sister heroine.

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>>4110647
Sure I am. I am amazed by the progress made by these idiots. Maybe /jp/ can actually do shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4111291
> romance
> no Real Deal
> ergo Disney
sage

[Anonymous No.]

>>4111385
You fail at sage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4111400
I was just expressing my disgust.

[Proud secondaryfan !lj58TLqeqw No.]

>>4111425
And wanted everyone to see it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4110489
>40%
Did you guys double the percentage in the past few weeks?
Damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4111385
Honestly, I wouldn't translate anything to the ungrateful fucks like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4111430
Got a problem with that?

[Anonymous No.]

Another great week you had there, Hatsukoi Translation Thread! I am proud of you, keep the hardwork up!

[Nefepitou !!UBVETENFsHS No.]

Did the server go down?

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

>>4111291
Don't forget:

- First anonymous translation project
- First completed /jp/ project (KS doesn't count)
- First successful deployment of RWI
- First client of REtrans International

[Anonymous No.]

>>4110647
There was quite a bit of interest before /jp/ became overrun by Uminekofags who only care about "real deal" games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4114482
>completed
>Hatsukoi Translation
That'll be the day.

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

>>4114541
April 1st. (Known as "baka day" to you /jp/sies)

[Anonymous No.]

>blood related sister heroine
Now we are talking, i was trolled with kana little sister.

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

Since COMMON is done, a few editors to look over it would be a good idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4114514
>Implying Umineko fans are the same as real deal fags.
"real deal" for baldr sky and muv luv fans to troll galge stuff

[Anonymous No.]

Yusumi translator here~

Had more time today than I thought, so I'm gonna be at a manga cafe for two or three hours.

Maybe I can get Yusumi up to 4000 today, if some sort of miracle happens...

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>>4114764
Ganbare~

[Anonymous No.]

up to 3933

oh well
maybe later...

see you all later~

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck you, shit's gonna suck, translate Bullet Butlers you fucking faggots goddamn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4115848
With that attitude why would anyone translate anything for you?

[Nefepitou !!UBVETENFsHS No.]

>>4115848
文句言ってる暇があるんなら日本語でも勉強したらどうなの？

[Takasagi Karin !!2YohJnkKNZp No.]

ahhh i remember this thread.

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>>4114618


What's the significance of using 。 as periods in some areas and . in others?

[Nefepitou !!UBVETENFsHS No.]

>>4117320
I don't think it matters, the editors can change all of the 。into . later.

[Anonymous No.]

Obligatory morning bump.

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>>4110485
Fuck off with your moronic attacks 24/7 at www.anon
talk.com. We don't want you there, retards. Got it already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4116404
お前はよく言うな

[Nefelpitou !!UBVETENFsHS No.]

>>4117922
だってウザイんだもん、ボランティアにケチつける人って。そんなに気にく
わないんなら自分で勝手にやってくださいって感じ。ってか、人を何だと
思ってんだろう・・・

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>>4118124
荒しや構ってちゃんはここの定番だぞ。あまり気を使わない方が楽だ。

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>>4117363
None, change them. I would guess it's different translators on different parts.

[Anonymous No.]

>a male
>using もん

[Nefelpitou !!UBVETENFsHS No.]

>>4119036
何が悪いのさ？別にいいじゃん。「もん」なんて性別かんけい無いし。

[Anonymous No.]

>>4119086
I can't help but feel a tsundere vibe from you.
(what follows is an attempt at translation, merely for entertainment purposes)
お前はちょっとつんでれらしい

[Nefelpitou !!UBVETENFsHS No.]

>>4119118
I already get told I look like a girl, and now this....

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>>4119086
it does in the real world.

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>>4119266
oh, you're a trap? that's fine then, carry on.

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>>4119284
What? I'm a native, 「もん」can be used by guys. I use it all the time irl.
>>4119287
I'm not, I'm a normal guy

[Anonymous No.]

Bump for great justice.

I don't speak any nippon, so I can't really help you, but good luck.

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>>4119309

You say that now but you clearly haven't witnessed the power of a skirt.

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

ANZU could use some work
COCO also needs some progress
COMMON is done but should be edited
KARIN seems to have moved slightly
KOMOMO has passed line 666
YUSUMI is at 4000 lines and should be complete soon.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the significance of using 「」 as quotations in some areas and "" as quotations in others? Editing COMMON, and around line 70, it transitioned from using the former to the latter.

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

>>4120143
You should've read the history in the previous threads in the archive, but the tl;dr of it is that the very first versions of RWI had quote bugs.

We would like your opinions on which type of quote looks better, the Japanese ones or the English ones. Once we decide, a search-and-replace should do it easily.

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>>4110488
Fuck off with your moronic attacks 24/7 at www.an
ont
al
k.com. We don't want you there, retards. GOT IT already?! Sub-human creatures...

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>>4110487
Fuck off with your moronic attacks 24/7 at www.an
ont
al
k.com. We don't want you there, retards. GOT IT already?! Sub-human creatures...

[Anonymous No.]

Good evening, Hatsukoi Translation Thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Hitomi's Ass

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Any progress tonight?

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>>4110647
/co/ is translating french just fine for Wakfu, what makes you think /jp/ will suck at this translation? We honestly have some quite talented creative and productive people around here.

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Obligatory morning bump.

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Bump.

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

YUSUMI translator, where'd you go?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4126294

Well he's currently limited to only working at a manga cafe so perhaps he hasn't been able to get to one recently.

[Anonymous No.]

Keep up the good work, /jp/ translators.

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>>4126294
I was in an airplane
In America now though for a while.

Tonight might be busy unpacking etc so probably won't have too much time to translate
Also jet lag sucks. D:

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>>4128246
Feel better, anon! There is always tomorrow or the day after.

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>>4128246

>Also jet lag sucks.

Nothing more annoying after flying half way around the world.

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Up!

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

>>4128246
That's fine, a day or two of no work won't affect our release schedule (yet).

[mormon guy !nAP.g00d1k No.]

Duh. I added a password to my computer login. Of course that's an extra step I hate to bother with but whatever. Can't report me now bitch. Why I didn't realize sooner is probably a sign of how stupid I am.

I'll get back to translating soon.

[Anonymous No.]

Just watch the anime adaptation instead. It seems it's superior to its source-material.

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>>4131414
There's an anime?

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>>4131018
>a sign of how stupid I am.
>mormon

I think that's an even bigger sign.

[Anonymous No.]

is the final release going to be full width characters like the OP image?
it looks like a pain to read with the letters spaced like that

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>>4131510
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6944
http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=2376
http://animenfo.com/animetitle,1607,wnctmb,a.html

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>>4131575
Anyone found fansubs for this?

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

YUSUMI translator appears to have resumed work already. Excellent.

[Anonymous No.]

bampu pantsu~

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>>4131784
it's a hentai ova,so fansubs are sarce

[mormon guy !nAP.g00d1k No.]

As upset as I am about my roommate probably lurking around my computer I just can't feel ok with translating again right now. After the lecture I got last week ... yeah I'm worthelss but I think I would feel terrible, it is my fault after all. Anyway. That's all.

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>>4131784
Well if there aren't any, then just get someone to sub the H-OVA instead of the game. Seems like a lot less work.

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>>4132434

That sounds pretty shitty. You said it yourself that he can't get into your computer anymore (which should be reason enough to report him for invading your privacy) so it's just a matter of simply translating when he's not around. But I guess if you're feeling insecure about the whole experience then I guess there's nothing I can say to help.

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>>4132434
Are there cameras everywhere where you live or something?

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>>4132457
Provided that we can find the raws first. With such a generic name, I haven't been able to find anything (yet).

[mormon guy !nAP.g00d1k No.]

>>4133566
I just don't feel I can justify it and >>4132931 is right, I just feel insecure about it.

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>>4134398

>I just don't feel I can justify it

Translate loli incest game
Make countless Anon's happy
Don't give a fuck about your faggot roommate

Or

Don't translate loli incest game
Anon's are sad
Roommate assumes his trollface.jpg

Your decision, I guess.

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>>4134398

Go into your bios and turn on the start-up password.

Suddenly you're the only one who can use your machine unless you don't turn it off when you're done.

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>>4133821
have you searched share etc?
i couldn't find any torrents but there may be something on share or winny

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>>4134451
And use full-disk encryption if you _really_ feel paranoid, tunnel out to the safe area via SSL proxy, etc. Lurk /g/ if you want more advice, threads like that come up once in a while.

[Anonymous No.]

I just realized that the text in OP's image is mistaken. It's supposed to be Hatsushima, not Hatsushi. Great job lol...

Also, someone asked it previously, but is the text going to be like that in the final release?

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>>4131018
If you're using XP that password does nothing. XP is totally easy to get into.
Do what someone else suggested and add a startup login instead.

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>>4134866
Sorry that was probably a typo on my part
But OP said that the text till be fixed in the final release. Image is more like an alpha.

[Anonymous No.]

Is lolita hacking or is he doing translation?
Why isn't it fixed now so there will be fewer problems to deal with when the translation is over?

[Anonymous No.]

One thing I was worried about was keeping the 。 and full space punctuation in, and I just looked at Anzu's translation and it made me remember why.

When there are the three horizontal dots, after that, if it's the end of a sentence, they normally put a 。, right? Even if we change that to a period afterwards, it's going to look really funny.

Also, I'm worried that if people are consciously trying to keep the full-width Japanese punctuation in, they're going to try to fit their sentence around the previous sentence's punctuation.

For example, from Anzu:
「……what do you mean。Because you didn't want to come home？」

Normally where the 。 is there should be a question mark instead, right? But if people are consciously trying to leave in the original, I have a feeling that they'll be trying to leave in the original punctuation, even if it doesn't look natural in English. This has me worried, and this is why I had brought it up recently. :/

Also, I noticed that there are some lines that have been translated randomly, like, just one line in the middle of several hundred untranslated lines. Who's doing that?

Sorry if I'm being obnoxious in any way.

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>>4110486
Kindly stop spamming, harassing and generally attacking www.anon
talk
.com, please. We don't want you there. Understood? Thank you, and a most splendid day to you, Sir or Madamme.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm impressed at how much progress you guys are doing.

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

>>4136147
I'm just the project manager, although lately I've been doing a little editing too.

>>4136219
Editing will definitely be needed... and we should probably decide whether to keep the Japanese punctuation or not.

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>>4136219
Correct me if I am misremembering, but I think that a short ellipses (... 3 periods) is used in the middle of a sentence and a long ellipses (.... ...? ...! 3 periods and proper puncuation, which sometimes means four periods) is used when an ellipses is at the end of one.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump before bed.

[Anonymous No.]

Up!

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>>4136637
Coco-part time shitty translator here.
I think we should replace all jap punction shit with proper, normal ones.

>>4136219
>Normally where the 。 is there should be a question mark instead, right?

Of course, don't make the mistake to try to translate everything too literally. It's just going to look weird.

For example, I replaced line 638 of Coco, which says:
>…………。
just to
>...

I also started to completely ignore trailing and preceding '…' because it just makes conversations seem awkward in most cases.

[Anonymous No.]

>because it just makes conversations seem awkward in most cases.
Maybe that's the reason why the original script reads like that?

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>>4138576
Personally I think the ... might be better as the horizontal one, but I'm kind of indecisive about that too.
I do agree that the trailing ones often sound awkward, and I'm trying not to go to much out of my way to include them in, but sometimes they do add to the feeling of the sentence so I wouldn't shun them completely.

[Anonymous No.]

also, one other thing...

keeping the long ......... when there's a pause in what they're saying actually looks better i think, personally.
if you put in ... when they're saying nothing but dots it makes it less dramatic...
this is just my opinion though

[Anonymous No.]

Bump.

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

- The double-width text will be fixed... eventually. Cudder still has Editorashi-related stuff to work on and a job IRL.

- We should indeed make the punctuation as English as we can. Keep the ellipses, they do have significance.

- Progress update coming in 2 days. I have a feeling we're slowing down again.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.]

I love Psychology and the Yusumi route is making me rage because of it, but I'll try to finish tonight :/

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

>>4141107
Once you finish YUSUMI, ANZU would be a good next choice. The others are currently moving along.

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>>4141134
who exactly is translating what as of this moment?

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[Nefelpitou !!UBVETENFsHS No.]

>>4141189
I'm doing Komomo, but I don't do all that much at a time. Just passed 800 now.

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

>>4141189
Everything except ANZU and COMMON (which is completed) has someone working on it right now.

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>>4143022
Then that leaves Karin, Coco, and Anzu.
Is there anyone assigned to these three?

And by the way, at that rate are you okay doing that character? Doesn't she have the most lines in the game?

[Nefelpitou !!UBVETENFsHS No.]

>>4143148
Yeah, I wouldn't mind some help. I can't dedicate as much time as the other translators right now.

Also, JESUS CHRIST KOMOMO TWEEEEST

[Nefelpitou !!UBVETENFsHS No.]

>>4143209
Wait, disregard that. I was wrong after reading further.../sigh

[Anonymous No.]

Right now Yusumi route is having the biggest twist ever...
And it's so retarded I can't stop laughing. since when are eroge soap operas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4143370
since Japan

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>>4143523
i lol'd

[Anonymous No.]

Yusumi is complete.

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

>>4143773
Completion confirmed. Someone should start editing it now. Please continue with ANZU.

Also, a preliminary calculation shows that we need an average of 333 lines/day to meet our scheduled release date.

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>>4143851
If the speed of 3800 lines a week continues, this might actually happen.

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>
ANZU 1339/5616
glee

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>>4143851
I'll start Anzu tomorrow or the day after.
I saw a lot of inaccurate stuff so I'm going to go through the original lines first...

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

>>4144043
Remember: 333 a day, end the month before May.

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>>4144422
if there's four people currently translating, as long as everyone does even a little bit everyday it should be okay, shouldn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

Don't wait for the translation to finish, edit all you can NOW, so then there won't be a headache as the project reaches the end phase. Editing may sound simple but it still requires reading through the entire script. In terms of game length, this game is around the same length as Cross Channel. Reading through that game itself in English takes at least several hours. We should all get a general consensus on the punctuation issue though... Here's my vote

Eliminate all the Japanese punctuations altogether, but just keep the horizontal ellipses. However, let's not be excessive like the author who sometimes uses 6 on both ends of a single phrase.
And yes I know I've used the Japanese punctuation for all this time, but I think I'll just quit it and use English punctuation now. Actually makes my life easier not having to alt+~ every 10 seconds. Though I'm still not really sure how many ellipses to keep so I'll just leave them there for now.

To editors, one more important thing to note is that the text should flow. As in the lines before and after a line must "sound right" together (unless there's a scene change, and even then there's usually transition text)
A quick google of translation theory, here are the aspects of an ideal translation
* Accurate: reproducing as exactly as possible the meaning of the source text.
* Natural: using natural forms of the receptor language in a way that is appropriate to the kind of text being translated.
* Communicative: expressing all aspects of the meaning in a way that is readily understandable to the intended audience.
It's up to the translators with the first point, but editors can seriously contribute to the second and third points. If the second two points aren't assessed、might as well just read this with AGTH.

[Nefelpitou !!UBVETENFsHS No.]

>>4144705
Wait, so no 「」? I've been keeping them since shift + 2 gets irritating.

[Anonymous No.]

I agree that editing should start immediately and these punctuation issues etc should be handled quickly.
It would be awful for this to be fully translated then read like a babelfish translated book...

The main point of a visual novel is text, it's, as the title may suggest, a novel!!
If the text doesn't flow well, there's no point in playing it since that is how the player goes through the game.

I also think other bugs such as fixing the game so it displays half-width characters should be a priority instead of waiting until the last minute.

we should be putting all resources in where we can in order to get a translation out efficiently while maintaining some standard of quality.

there's never a reason not to multi-task when you're able to.

also, lolita, if you're not translating or hacking it, why aren't you helping with editing? just a thought.

before that i think we should set standards though, for how we want the text to be (especially in regards to jp/en punctuation)

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>>4144743
Oh yeah forgot about those
I would say keep them as they look better. But then I'm pretty sure I put in 『』 a few times in there. That should definitely change to quotation marks.

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

About the punctuation issue.

At first, translators were urged to keep Japanese quotes since RWI had bugs that would make files unusable if certain patterns of quotes were used. However, these have been fixed so there is no technical reason why we shouldn't use English punctuation.

Here's my official viewpoint as a project manager:
>>4139627

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

(continued)

>I also think other bugs such as fixing the game so it displays half-width characters should be a priority instead of waiting until the last minute.
We have 2.5 months. Cudder has said she'll work on that, but has the script assembler for Editorashi and IRL work to deal with first. Editorashi release is February so we're focusing on that first. If anyone else is able to fix the fullwidth text before then, go ahead and work on it.

>also, lolita, if you're not translating or hacking it, why aren't you helping with editing? just a thought.
I'm managing the Editorashi project as well. That needs more attention at the moment, given the release schedule I explained above (and the nature of the ones working on it.) I have done some edits on this project though.

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bump

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't you fags get an IRC or forum? I'm sick of seeing this shit on the front page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4146232
Out of sight, out of mind. It'd probably end up like those numerous other projects that started on /jp/, moved somewhere else, and died.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4146232
Don't be so frustrated, anon-kun! Take it easy and wait patiently for The Hatsukoi Translation Thread to finish up!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4146232

Bawwwwwwww. Minimize the thread and/or filter it if it really bothers you that much, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

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Bump.

[Anonymous No.]

Rude sage.

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

Next status update in a little over a day. ANZU is in serious need of work.

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>>4149484

Polite bump.

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>>4144043
I've said in previous threads that I felt my translation was 85-90% accurate, is that about right? I know I'm not the best but I try when nobody else will and I hope it helps you out at least some. I was hoping for someone with more experience to come along. Many many thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

Good morning Hatsukoi Translation Thread! Are you cutely doing your best?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4154270
A lot of stuff you have right, but I think you have a habit of leaving out a few words when you translate (maybe you didn't know what they meant?) which changes the meaning of the sentence.

for example 三木ぽんのことなんだからそうとは限らないと思うよ
was translated as
I don't think it's just Miki
the part you're missing is the そうとは, which makes it "Just because it's Miki doesn't exactly mean that's the case" or something to that effect.

Some other lines are also missing several words when translated (which changes the meaning if they're gone). Just try not to leave out words, even if you don't know what it means with them in, 'cause that changes the whole sentence a lot of the time （´ω｀；）

とにかくがんばれ！誰だって間違いするし、翻訳すれば日本語の勉強にもな
ると思うから応援してるよ！（｀・ω・´）ｂ　ﾌｧｲﾄｯ！

[Anonymous No.]

>>4154935
er, "just because it's miki" X
since it's Miki we're talking about ○

[Nefelpitou !!UBVETENFsHS No.]

>>4154935
Eh? I would've translated it as "That's not necessarily so, since we're talking ab out Miki-pon here". Or is that too wordy?

[Anonymous No.]

Random question: Do I need a Japanese verison of Windows (Or Ultimate + language pack) to play visual novels in Japanese?

I've tried a couple but the text has been messed up (random ascii characters) if I don't install English patches. (Windows 7, normal edition)

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>>4155637
>>4155640
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>>4155655

Forcing us into a new thread for the status update? Why thank you, good sir.

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Why the fuck would you spam this thread?
Nontheless in the slow moving /jp/.
Get the fuck back to /a/.

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you know KoG may suck but at least he isn't Jones

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>>4146500

does ANYONE even want this translation? It's more than obviously going to be a lot worse than your average fan translation and Hatsukoi isn't that great to begin with.

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>>4155690
This is king of faggots doing the flooding.

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>>4155708
i know, i'm just saying he doesn't suck as much as jones

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>>4155714
No, you suck even worse, king of faggots.

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>>4155577
I think that sounds even better, I wasn't thinking as I wrote that out （´Д｀）still sleep-deprived due to jetlag + my grandparents urge for me to wake up early

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

Nameless Pharaoh, you're so smart! We're so easily offended by your flooding!

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>"That's not necessarily so, since we're talking about Miki-pon here".

I'm not a native speaker, but I find "That's not necessarily so" to sound odd. I'd have gone for something along "That's not necessarily the case" or "It's not necessarily that way". "So" just sounds wrong somehow.

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A native could just say "Not necessarily, since it's Miki we're talking about." or "It's Miki after all, so not necessarily." or any number of other permutations of that. This is a very context senstive phrase due to the referential nature.

Which brings up another point: "Just because it's Miki doesn't exactly mean that's the case." and "That's not necessarily so, since we're talking ab out Miki-pon here." can have different shades of meaning. The first is somewhat accusatory in that it implies that Miki would do something like that based on past experience, whereas the second is a more neutral or defensive tone wherein the speaker is attempting to ward off accusations directed at the subject in question.

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The script faggotry posts were deleted? Good job meido.

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>>4123704 /co/ is translating french just fine for Wakfu, what makes you think /jp/ will suck at this translation?

/co/ is using native francophones to do the translations. Try to see where I'm going with this.

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>>4157582
I dunno about other people, but I'm a native.

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>>4157582
I dunno about other people, but I'm a native. And the guy that did Yusumi is very good.

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>>4157361
yeah i know, i was concentrating on the fact that the そうと was left out, so i forgot what the first part said as i was writing that.
in my head i remembered it as みきぽんだからといって instead of the accurate phrase

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>>4154935
I think a better translation would be "It's Miki we're talking about here so I don't think that's necessarily the case"

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Status update in a few hours. Somehow, I have a bad feeling about this.

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>>4158950
why?

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

ANZU 1342/5616
B 76/76
C 0/127
COCO 330/4937
COMMON 6754/6754
D 187/187
E 12/12
KARIN 977/4486
KOMOMO 1102/7127
M 24/24
P 7/7
S 0/650
V 21/21
YUSUMI 4435/4435
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TOTALS 15267/34459 44.305%

1873 lines this week, or 267 lines/day

We're 66 lines below the minimum rate. We'll need to produce at least 2800 lines next week to get back on schedule.

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>>4159810
Remember >>4154935 has to clear my mistakes in Anzu too. It's probably more on schedule than you think.

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>>4159827
>It's probably more behind schedule than you think.

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>>4159856
Once he moves through Anzu he'll be back doing the rate he was before which is fast. Don't mind.

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>>4159892
You'd better be right about that.

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>>4160808
>>4158950

Your negativity is starting to get mildly irritating.

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>>4161432
I'm not a proton or a neutron.

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Up!

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/jp/ does not care. Stop bumping this.

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>>4161432
agreed.
when you're that negative it's hard for other people to be enthusiastic

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>>4162740
Are you frustrated?

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>>4162740

Enjoy downloading it when it's finished.

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Cheer up, Hatsukoi Translation Thread! You are doing your best!

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bump

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>>4160808
that attitude really doesn't make me want to translate... （´ω｀）

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>>4164541
Now you know what it feels like to be a professional translator.

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>>4164591
I do translations professionally (technical documents etc), so I already know how it feels.
The problem is, you're expecting everyone to make a commitment when you yourself are multitasking and not commiting that much time to the project yourself.
Also keep in mind that this project is NOT a job and we do not have a duty to complete it if we don't want to, and on top of that, whether you are a self-proclaimed manager or not, you are not our boss.
Please keep this in mind before saying someone had "better" be doing something, because we're all helping because we choose to, not because we're getting paid or have a commitment.

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lolita is a self-important fag?

Who knew?

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>>4164857
I have to agree. Translator-sama is doing his best! We should respect him and appreciate his work!

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>>4165340
your posts are always so cute
they make me happy

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>>4165525
Thanks! When everyone is doing their best, then everyone will be happy with the results.

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>>4164857
It's hard to think positively about anything when some of the files haven't had a single change in days (ANZU, in particular.) Feels like last year again.

At least KOMOMO moved another 100 lines today.

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>>4166715
Other parts of project are moving. At least this is getting some steady progress, look at some other projects hosted on other places.
Stop being such a dick.

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>>4166781
An overseer's job is to be always demanding.

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>>4166715
Try harder, !w4lolitaKs-kun! If Translator-sama is doing his best, you need to give it your all too!

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>>4166715
yeah, well guess what? you being a jerk isn't going to help it.

why don't you get off your ass and help if you want things to go smoothly?

all you do is manage... manage what? I don't see you doing anything here, just posting threads and bossing people around.

you should thank people for putting the time in to translate something, not make them feel bad for not being fast enough.

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So does this game offer anything else besides blood related incest?

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>>4166830
You need something else?

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>>4166830
Foreigner loli, Dream girl, Ojousama, and Ghost girl.

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>>4166820
Most of what I'm doing isn't visible. Monitoring the web interface, server stats, doing backups, fixing minor bugs, etc. Just because I'm not entering lines doesn't mean I'm not working on the project.

And if you think managers should look like they work hard all the time... you're in a real surprise once you get a job.

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>>4167259
>Monitoring the web interface, server stats, doing backups, fixing minor bugs, etc.

Right, so self-created problems?

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>>4166715

>It's hard to think positively about anything when some of the files haven't had a single change in days (ANZU, in particular.) Feels like last year again.

I'm sorry but this honestly made me laugh. Your previous negativity was somewhat understandable since the project was getting a pathetic amount of lines per week but regardless I called you out on it. You've been relatively fine since but the translators (who I highly appreciate for their time and effort) are still doing 1873 lines this week. Now 29 lines is relatively bad, I'll admit. But they're pumping out 1873 lines and you're honestly still being a complete cunt about it? Get real.

Anyway obligatory morning bump.

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>>4167896
>a complete cunt
Hmm, I wonder how an incomplete cunt looks like.

Anyway, keep up the good work, friends. Do your best but take it easy.

Not bumping you, because 1st page is currently experiencing lol/b/style hijacks. It would be sad if this thread gets caught up in that shit.

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it's age time

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Come on, Anonymous-kun, !w4lolitaKs-kun! Don't fight! Lets get along and do our best today!

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>>4167259
when's the last time you fixed a minor bug?
everyone's been pointing out that you should fix the text problem (as seen in the OP image) and you go "LOL NO TOO BUSY WITH HIGURASHI GUYS"

You're a shitty manager.

And it's not about whether you look busy, since your attitude towards the people you're bossing around is awful to begin with.

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>>4169677
Do you guys actually work on this or just can';t see poor volunteers who work on their schedule regardless suffer the oppression?

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>>4167259
>implying none of us have a real job

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>>4169695
What about the ones complaining?

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>>4169701
what do you mean?
are you assuming that just because someone complains that means they don't have any work experience? lol

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>>4169712
No implying, just wondering.

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>>4169715
Wondering what..?

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It looks like you guys are working hard.
A small request: Variable-width fonts!

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>>4167896
You anons were the ones who agreed with an April 1st release; 1873 lines a week is not enough for that, but last week we had more than double that rate. I'm just telling it like it is. If next week goes at double the rate again, I'd probably be a lot more positive, like I was last week and the one before.

>>4169677
Less than 1 week ago. The point is to fix bugs BEFORE they actually cause problems, so you shouldn't be noticing anything. I personally think the text looks fine; you also have to remember that fixing it entails knowing how (I don't). Cudder is working on the script assembler for Editorashi and will get to that afterwards.

tl;dr: You want this done on schedule or not? You want to release on April 1st?

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>>4169773
Wasn't it supposed to release the end of December?
I dont remember ever "agreeing" to get it done by YOUR release date.

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>fix bugs BEFORE they actually cause problems
wut
you can see it's causing a problem and looks awkward, why are you denying it?
and if it's better to solve things before they cause problems then wouldn't now be the perfect time to resolve text issues, seeing as how it is a visual novel??

>I personally think the text looks fine
So once again you're only focusing on your own opinion. I've been around for past threads too and this has been commented on multiple times.
Are you planning on only valuing your own opinion when releasing this, or do you have any plans on listening to what the people at /jp/ have to say at all?
As much as you like to brag that this is THE FIRST /jp/ VN TRANSLATION PROJECT, honestly you aren't paying attention to anyone else in /jp/.
Is the only reason you even have the project set up in /jp/ just so you can brag about it?

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>>4169791
We were theorizing April from almost the beginning based on how much was being done. December was always wishful thinking.

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>I personally think the text looks fine
wut, full width font is totally unacceptable by vn translation standards

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>>4167124
>Ghost girl

Does this mean... ghost blowjob?!

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>>4169816
>Is the only reason you even have the project set up in /jp/ just so you can brag about it?

No, he wanted somewhere where he could brag about his software and make it as visible as possible that people should think Retrans is the best thing ever even if no one else actually thinks so, and he wanted somewhere where he could get free labor to test out his software.

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>>4169773

>You anons were the ones who agreed with an April 1st release

Excuse me, what? After getting a decent rate going you mentioned it yourself "It would be so randum to release on April 1st." Nobody actually agreed to anything. People are spending their time and effort working on this project of their own free will. If they don't want to translate then that's their decision. Having you being a cunt to them certainly doesn't help.

>I personally think the text looks fine

It looks horrid, simple as that. Everyone else thinks so too.

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Look at it this way: if we finish on time, this will be one of the first projects we've actually finished and on time. Onward, translators!

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bump

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What's this, you're not fixing the text yourself but you expect your translators to volunteer plenty of hard work?
Something doesn't seem right here.

At least you're not dumbing down their translations a la Editorashi. Maybe it's for the best.

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Look guys, just chill. Everyone with any sense always knew that the actual release deadline was "When it's finally done." rather than an arbitrary time.

Translators: <3 you guys, don't quit because of dramastorm.

Lolita: Take it easy. Translations are happening, so as long as that's true then things are going well compared to large numbers of other projects. There's always something to feel down about in every project, you just have to look at the bright side. Notably: Closing in on half done!

Everyone else: How about that loli imouto incest? Hells yeah. How are the other routes anyway? I've only been interested in Anzu so far.

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>>4171548
I translated the Yusumi route and it was okay... until the end. the last plot twist was kinda meh.
I'm interested in the other routes, will probably be going through Anzu soon, as long as work permits.

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>>4171548
Other routes mentioned at >>4167124

Im looking forward to the ghost girl route now.

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>>4171705
enjoy your ghost blowjob

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Is the REtrans site acting up for anyone else? I keep getting errors/slow loading today.

Also, I don't know if I can keep doing a consistent 100 lines per day like I have since I'm starting classes tommorow. Depends on how well I can balance leisure, class/homework, and translation.

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>>4172804
We are aware of this. Server daemon is experiencing a high load. All I can say for now is to try again at a later time.

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DAMN YOU SIRANONYMOUS

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Site should be a little faster now.

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Sweet dreams, Hatsukoi Translation Thread! I will dream of us doing our best tomorrow!

[None !w4lolitaKs No.]

So far, everything looks good except for some text wrapping issues. I'll get Cudder to work on that along with the text width.

Latest version of all files (put in scenario.xp directory to use)
http://www.mediafire.com/?ujzowqnzyde

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>>4172905
WAIT WHO ARE YOU