/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Should go in /v/ but /jp/ is probably more knowledgeable about this

Ar Tonelico 1 vs Ar Tonelico 2
Which one to get?

[Anonymous No.]

Both.

[Anonymous No.]

I liked 2 better.

[MolesterJim No.]

>>4097701
Why only one?
Seems stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

Both are shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Depends what you mean by "get".

If you mean downloading, I say both, but if you are going to buy, buy the first because the second is bugged as hell, and you can't patch it.

[Anonymous No.]

Both. 2 is better, btw.

Urge to Jakuri dump rising.

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>4097701
If you have a PS2 just download them, if you have a PS3 that can run the games 1 since it's not as buged.

[Anonymous No.]

I only played the first one, Misha route since she was cute. Never bothered to play the other route, game wasn't good enough to go back to after one playthrough

[Anonymous No.]

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Settei_book_2_translation/History_section#Background_S
tory:_.5B3038_AD.2C_Unspoken_Words.5D

;_;

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Both. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

Well I meant get as in buy, since I don't know the current state of how well it plays on PCSX2

I mean Persona 3 was playable, but the sound and music were glitched and the graphics constantly warping was enough to make me buy it.

[Anonymous No.]

2 is great, but u may appreciate 2 better, if you played and finished 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097772
My very own clone.

Now neither of us will be virgin.

[MolesterJim No.]

>>4097797
You have a PS2 that cannot play shit you download?
Work on that first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097806
He said PCSX2.

[【 五角場 ～ 之 ～ 無名氏 】 No.]

The probalem with 2 is the plot execution.

New shit, new characters, new events, new everything will happen at every conceivable turn without any relation nor explanation. It's a jumbled mess.

Play it for the visual novel experience, play it for myur, play it for pastatits, and above all else, NEVER PICK LUCA.

[MolesterJim No.]

>>4097809
He also said BUY.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097832

You can BUY it, pop the disk on the DVD player and the use PCSX2 to RUN it.

[【 五角場 ～ 之 ～ 無名氏 】 No.]

>>4097850
yup, sorry molesterfriend, but you're in the wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

I think it should work well with PCSX2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097826
I picked Luca on my first run. I don't regret it. Dorodere sure was something.

>>4097797
Fuck buying, best played UNDUB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097866

Both are listed as playable in their compatibility list.

[MolesterJim No.]

>>4097861
Well, the safe bet is 1.
No glitches, overall more likable characters (though the best girl is in 2) and less jumbled story events and you can do most shit in one playthrough (since in 2 it requires quite more backtracking in comparison)

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, why is this /v/ shit here?

[Anonymous No.]

Battles are a bit primitive in 1

[Anonymous No.]

What was that one phrase you say to Spica in Ar Tonelico II that gets you into her secret shop?

[Anonymous No.]

Get this out of /jp/.

This thread is /v/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097899

Bitch drop your pants

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Shurelia in overalls, not so good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097866
Yeah it worked for me fine. I started a game but put it on hold for a bit. You may need to use a Beta PCSX build though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097899
I want a buckets worth

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097899
>>4097912
>>4097917
Tell me how this is /jp/, along with any other post in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097926
Stick up your ass too much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097932
It's you damn kids that don't know anything about order or quality.

[Anonymous No.]

Buy 1, then download 2.

[Anonymous No.]

Everything NIS/Altus is popular and purely /v/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097926
>>4097941
What is your problem? JRPGs are close enough to VNs and more related than Idol threads that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097926

ADV with a shitty gameplay mechanic on top of it?

Sounds like a certain other /jp/ title....

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Problem, weekend friends?

Also Shurelia in overalls, not so good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097955
Nice fallacy.

Now, go back to /v/ with this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097963
I'm here more than you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097964
>Nice fallacy

Haha no
The only difference is porn.

Cry some more

[Anonymous No.]

AR TONELICO 3 will be 3D


shit game confirmed

[Anonymous No.]

Picking between Luca and Cloche was really a tough choice in Ar tonelico II. They were both going through some pretty nasty shit. I wish I could have them both and get a harem end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097870
>I picked Luca on my first run. I don't regret it.
Same here.
I have a weakness for childhood friend things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097974
Grow up and stop believing everything you like is /jp/-related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097978
It's forgiveable because it's Ar tonelico.

[Anonymous No.]

/v/.

Notice how these threads only pop up after school and on the weekend?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097979
Everything Luca goes through, Cloche one-ups it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097982

What makes something /jp/ related? Being accepted by the general userbase while managing to not get killed by our resident meido. This has achieved both.

I believe the primary culprit with an axe to grind here is you, my friend. Perhaps you should stop trying to define /jp/ as only things that you enjoy?

[Anonymous No.]

Spica looks a lot like Eirin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097963
Not being able to use Shurelia's comosphere clothing in battle sure made me sad.

But then again, I have heard somewhere that even the devs didn't like her all that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097994
It's not accepted and is on the exact same bar as Idol threads and the Janitor never gave a shit about this place,; all he does is pop in every once in a while and delete /b/ garbage.

Also, I enjoy nothing, so I have no bias.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097990
/v/ is extremely shitty and hates anything Japanese, so while it's off-topic, I don't really blame the topic creator for making an Ar Tonelico thread here.

[Anonymous No.]

I really like Ar Tonelico 1/2.

But this should be in /v/ no matter how much I like it or not.

I'm surprised ZUN tripfag isn't in here. He usually posts in /v/ related threads in /jp/.

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>4098006
COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098001
She was NOONE'S favorite.
So not really hated, just not liked as much.
>>4098004
Moodkillers like you should just fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098011
Yo.
>>4097963

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098008
Too bad, it goes there, not here.

Besides, there are just as many people who like this stuff in /v/ (it's just a small ratio).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098004

Then go pester the idolfaggots. God knows they deserve it.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098018
Nope.

Shurelia was my favorite, by far.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4097990
There have been AT threads all week during the late night NEET hours and I'm pretty sure I've posted in all of them. Feel free to check my post history on the archive if you want to find those threads.

Sorry weekend bros from /a/, but you lose again.

[Anonymous No.]

Went with Misha in AT1.Aurica is one of the most annoying bitches in the universe,Shurelia is good but you get her too late and she is not as awesome as Misha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098029
Among the developers, not the fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098001

Apparently she was too much dere and lacked some tsun.

[Anonymous No.]

shurelia was my favorite
her cosmosphere was awesome too

[Anonymous No.]

Shurelia shouldn't have even been playable, she's one of those characters who should be overpowered storyline-wise, but got nerf'd just so she could be in your party.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098031
No there has not.

They are somewhat rare and ALWAYS made by you or the other two people who like this shit.

Hell, I posted more in these threads than you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098051
So, you have absolutely nothing better to do.

[Anonymous No.]

Cocona and Sasha are the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098051

Coolest story brah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098046
A VN inside a pseudo-VN.

Brilliant.

[Anonymous No.]

Zun devs, get out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098062
>>4098064
How is this any different from posting this shit in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

Not enough girls like this in games. There needs to be tons of them as either the main character or main female supporting cast character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097978

Actually, quite the opposite. That means there will be more pantyshots and zoom ins. The current engine doesn't allow any fun with the camera. Oh, and the sprites are too small, except for the hands. The huge hands...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098068
Magnificent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098081
That would be too creepy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098008
>/v/ is extremely shitty and hates anything Japanese, so while it's off-topic
That's not an excuse at all. I made AR1/2, MK1/2, and some other games of this nature in /v/ just fine.

I just had to samefag/ghost bump my thread a bit since /v/ is faster board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098076
It's actually a topic about something, instead of silly complaints as to why it exists.
Take it easy, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098068
>>4098084
Except EVERY SINGLE RPG has done this and even the specific concept is unoriginal (Thousand Arm, anyone? Although considering the jRPG userbase here, I doubt few of you have played it)

>>4098082
Great, now it can be even more generic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098087
Ar tonelico is /jp/ related. Is it that hard to understand for some of you faggots?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098096
And we're telling you it's not and it fits perfectly in /v/.

Is that so hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098096
It's not like its the first time we had jrpg threads too.

[MolesterJim No.]

>>4098092
Thousand Arms used DATING SIM mechanics.
Not the same thing, by a fucking longshot.
And 'every single rpg' is as fucking wrong a fucking exaggeration can get.
Besides, the 'VN' routes being virtual worlds within the story of the game(regardless of the actual heroine routes) is not common by any means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098103
And they all belonged in /v/

[Anonymous No.]

stop responding to the troll you dickheads, it's not hard to ignore him

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098008
>so while it's off-topic

This is the part of the argument I just don't understand.

It's an adv game with a shitty jrpg on top. It's obviously within the /jp/ medium, so where the hell does this argument come from?

Is it because it isn't doujinsoft? Surprise, neither is Rance!
Is it because it has no porn? Surprise, more shit than I care to list!
Is it because it has a 'professional' english translation? Fuck, I guess we can't talk about JAST or Mangagamer's bullshit any more.
Because it's not on PC? What the fuck do we do with this idolm@ster stuff then?

I can understand saying that persona doesn't belong on /jp/, but seriously, I just don't understand this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098106
Now is that any different from this garbage?

Also, every single RPG has a plot and a method of presentation; it is nothing new.

[【 五角場 ～ 之 ～ 無名氏 】 No.]

>>4098099
It is. Ar Tonelico is /jp/ related.

The criteria for being /jp/ related is that the majority of the userbase accepts it, and it is accepted aside from individual voices like yours. Unless of course you want to argue all things japan welcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098092
>Except EVERY SINGLE RPG has done this

You may reconsider that part, generalisation isn't very effective..

[Anonymous No.]

i never equiped shurelias armor
it looked horrible

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098124
RPGs have a plot and method to present it?
Wow, amazing.
Unlike VNs.
Oh, wait.
Jesus, we get the worst trolls here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098126
>The criteria for being /jp/ related is that it's japanese.

Goddamn, as long as something is japanese it fits in /jp/ - JAPAN/General

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098127
Dragon Quarter is fucking awesome. Love that game.

[Anonymous No.]

I picked Luca on my first playthrough too, but by the end I ending up liking Cloche much more.

I'll do another playthrough sometime soon, after my copy of AT1 arrives and play through that first.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Galge has a home in /jp/ for the obvious reasons. If you have to ask why, then it's clear that you've never played any of this stuff before. Or perhaps you're one of the new Umineko bros from /a/.

Games like AT are no different than Galaxy Angel or Sakura Taisen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098141
Haven't been here for long, have you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098126
So Idols and anime is /jp/ related?

>>4098127
And? What does BoF V have to do with this?

>>4098136
Nice Strawman and ad hominid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098141

Just like Naruto right?
He said it right the first time. What's /jp/ related is what the userbase accepts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098128
This was my party for most of the game.

Until I got Ayatane and decided to put every single "double atk/half def" grathnode I had on him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098152
>So Idols and anime is /jp/ related?
>Implying it isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098152
It's rather that your arguments make no fucking sense.
It has very strong VN elements that most RPGs lack.
Thus, you are just whinging.

[Anonymous No.]

as if AT1 wasn't easy enough, shurelia completely breaks it. Once you get her you would have to be a retard to ever die.

[【 五角場 ～ 之 ～ 無名氏 】 No.]

>>4098152
you should already know the answer to both your idol and anime questions if you really are /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098152
>And? What does BoF V have to do with this?
>A VN inside a pseudo-VN.
>EVERY SINGLE RPG has done this

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098172
It does not.

Gimmick != VN

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098152
>So Idols and anime is /jp/ related?

As much as I detest it, yes. We failed to run the idolfaggots out, and every day they grow ever bolder wandering outside the quarantine. Hell, dollfagers is a race traitor and says he likes both. It doesn't help that they've got a real mod on their side, and the one time our meido tried deleting their threads he immediately stopped sometime afterward for an unknown reason.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you dumbfucks keep replying to these idiots? You are fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098180
These terms are indeed unrelated. But has nothing to do with what we discuss.
Ar Tonelico employs VN mechanics in both the main story and secondary character development.
Keep trying to appear smart.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know why some of you guys hate on idolfags so much when they actually condense their threads so well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098180

You heard the man. No more Rance or Utawarerumono.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098186
It's a single retard.
Just let him feel happy whilst he is also alienated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098195
We hate the content of the threads, but tolerate them exactly cause they are condensed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098155

By following that logic, if I start a thread about...I don't know, how about a Windows vs. Linux thread on /a/ and people don't sage/flame/troll it to oblivion, it's /a/ related?

And technically, Naruto is /jp/ related because it's japanese. It's just that it sucks to much to be here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097797
game works fine on PCSX2, there's also an undubbed and PATCHED iso that fixes the crash during a certain fight

<----only correct choice

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4098128
I remember the last boss took me like an hour because I never leveled my characters and always ran from random battles.

Good thing Shurelia had some overpowered song that raised all stats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098203

Wasn't there a patch somewhere to correct the bugs? I remember downloading it from some website, but never understood how to use it.

Not like I care anymore, since that fight was easy as fuck. Just deplete the enemy encounter bar once in every new dungeon and be happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098195

Their threads are retard magnets. In case you haven't noticed, they've been posting twice as many threads as new blood comes in to "troll" each other. They just die rather quickly. It's only a couple of years until condensation is an afterthought.

>>4098202

As /a/ is a moderated board, no, that would not work. /jp/, however, is the great frontier! And thus those rules are exactly true here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098173
Only time I died on AT was when I got to Mir without knowing by killing Tastiella.

Second time, I just put Shurelia on my team, got her to sing her all-stat boost song and curbstomped my way to the bad end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098202
While a few unrelated threads on a board might slide, repeated attempts won't get a warm reaction and will probably get deleted.

The overall content of the board depends on the user base; moot has expressively stated this. While he still has a hold of the reigns and will give them a pull when things get out of hand, he'll still ultimately let the users do whatever the hell they want and decide what is and isn't appropriate for the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098225
>Tastiella.

Forgot who that was. Care to remind me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098239
The leader of the Teru Tribe.

[eirei emiya !NERO.ByayA No.]

I played, or rather tried to play, AT1 a few weeks ago, and it wasn't very long before I gave up.

The gave was overwhelming in its averageness, the dialogues seemed like they were written by gradeschoolers, the MC is a cretin, and the plot is as interesting as watching grass grow except the grass is in a temporal stasis field and doesn't grow at all.

After being told by a friend who completed the game that it doesn't get any better later, I gave it up.

Mind you, I'm not really a JRPG person, so I don't like grinding and expect a good story from a RPG.

[Anonymous No.]

So, why don't you you take this game shit to /v/?

It's been established that you can get a better RPG discussion there.

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone else kill tastiella?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098239
The girl who protected Mir's tomb.

You got the bad end if you chose to fight her in Phase 3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098250
How about you just hide the fucking thread? It's not like the board is overrun is Ar Tonelico threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098250

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>4098258
How is the bad end? Does everyone die?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098250
How about you just hide the fucking thread? It's not like the board is overrun with Ar Tonelico threads.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you guys post these thread when you know they'll shit up the board?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098265
Nope, everyone's happy except Lyner, who's all like "It just feels like we could have done more to save EVERYONE..."

MC is basically Shirou, except not completely weak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098253
I did.

Fighting Tastiella then Mir while low levelled and without Shurelia is the closest this game comes to a challenge.

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>4098276
Oh...
Well, at least NOW we have Shirou.
FUCK YEAH AOTO!

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098265
"That's not the way I wanted to win" end.

It sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098265

Everyone lives happily ever after
Except you killed Mir.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098276
Lyner is a faggot. His dialogue made me rage at times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098248

AT2 gets *much* better than AT1 at that. For instance, the main character is likeable and the cosmosphere system is better planned (only the heroine can have her cosmosphere compelted in her route).

The combat system was more interessing too.

And the plot isn't the same old 'save the world' like in the first game. Sure, there are still elements of world saving plots, but they aren't the majority this time.

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't you all just take these thread to /v/?

Seriously, /v/ not as bad as you guys make it out to be.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone mind reposting some of the pictures of this thread?

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/4069767

Pic related its the only one i saved

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>4098289
Yes he is. But I hate Croah too. He's just too "soft" for me.
Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqlGJ5C2wvk

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4098248
I actually dropped AT1 when it came out and only finished it years later because some /jp/ Anons recommended it. The plot is indeed average.

It turned out that the characters were the main attraction. Some even get developed over mutiple games. It's the main reason AT3 already has tons of fanart even though the game isn't out yet. In the end I'm glad I finished it.

But yeah there is no way I would recommend AT to someone looking for plot or who isn't an RPG person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098289
>rage

Faggot.

[eirei emiya !NERO.ByayA No.]

>>4098299
Yeah, so I've heard. I'd like to try AT2 some day, but I'd like to finish the first part. Yet the first part is terrible.

Is there absolutely no connection between the two, plotwise? Different setting and characters, etc?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh boy, imagedumps.

Surely those are /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098316
Some of the characters appear, but only one is playable I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098299
>only the heroine can have her cosmosphere completed in her route
I don't think that is an plus...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098307
Here, bro.

http://www.mediafire.com/?mmkngt2mjwj

[Anonymous No.]

Despite how stupid Jones is acting, this is /v/ material.

Please make these thread in /v/ from now on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098363
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098367
Nice maturity there.

You're worse than the Idolfriends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098353
thanks!!

[Anonymous No.]

AT is /jp/-related, anti-AT faggots cry moar please, your tears are delicious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098384
>cry moar
Jesus, why are you so horrible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098384
What proof do you have it's /jp/ when there's a perfectly acceptable mainstream video game board right near by?

[eirei emiya !NERO.ByayA No.]

>>4098363
It's a Japanese game that has VN elements, I'd say it's /jp/-related. The fact it's semipopular shouldn't change that.
>>4098347
Alright, that gives me some hope, thanks. I'll give it a spin sometime.

[Anonymous No.]

both ar tonelico 1 and 2 released in the US a year and a half after the japanese releases. So ar tonelico 3 US release in mid 2011? ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098403
>mainstream video game board

There's your problem. AT isn't mainstream, no matter what you want to think. Just because it isn't a doujin game that no more than 5 people have heard of, it doesn't make it mainstream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098405
Lot of localized games have VN elements, that doesn't make it /jp/-related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098405
Also the playable one isn't a character who is playable in AT1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098417
It's a series that's for a modern console and has a strong backing.

It may not be Final Fantasy, but you can call it mainstream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098438
It doesn't have a strong backing, it's virtually unknown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098438
Games like At are a niche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098445
Yeah, sure.

NIS has become quite big since the days of Disgaea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098438

Like im@s right?

Furthermore, AT2 sold only slightly more than shuffle. I'm willing to bet Higurashi has it beaten.

Amusingly, Mangagamer's translations were better quality, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098438
strong backing?
part 2 sold practically no copies
i'm surprised they made a sequel

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098461
Idolmaster is mainstream, in Japan.

RPGs != VNs, you cannot compare the two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098460
This is such a stupid analogy, I don't even know where to begin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098471

Shit, guess we can't talk about utawarerumono, the whole reason moot got pissed off enough to make /jp/, in /jp/ then.

[Anonymous No.]

You talk as if being "mainstream" or not has any relevance in this discussion.

[Anonymous No.]

I played 2 but never bothered to play 1. should I go back and play 1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098460
nis is only the publisher
developer is gust

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098481
Utawarerumono is a VN.

This is not.

>>4098483
Doesn't matter, since you won't take an obvious /v/ thread to /v/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098493
>Utawarerumono is a VN.

Really? Seemed like a mix of a Srpg and a VN to me.

Kind of like how AT is an adv game with a shitty jrpg on top.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098490
...That's the point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098493
Utawarerumono also has parts where you play it as a tactical RPG, so it belongs on /v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098485

Yes. Only then you will understand why AT2 completely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098485

Shit story, easy modo, not enough VN.
Shurelia might make it worth it, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098501
Wrong.

Uta was marketed as a VN and was released as such.

In addition, it's not for a console.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098521
Wrong, Utawarerumono is available on the PSP and PS2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098521
>Uta was marketed as a VN and was released as such.

And AT isn't?
Have you seen the latest AT3 trailer? Do you remember the AT2 promotions NISA had? You know, the bathtowels?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098537
Those are rereleases; ports do not count.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Mainstream Game Anon, I'm still waiting for you to explain why galge can't be posted on /jp/.

AT would be considered to be one along with titles like Galaxy Angel and Sakura Taisen. These games (and many other console galge) are also listed on VNdb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4097697
We would highly appreciate it if you did not spam your shitty clones all over www.ànoñtálk.com. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098542
That is a gimmick, not a main mechanic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098544
Fair enough, you're impossible to reason with then. Double standards, you're blatantly one of these "I don't like things unless they're obscure" people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098552
Because it's not an actual GALGE.

>>4098570
I don't like ANYTHING.

Obscure or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098560

I'm afraid that gimmick was the entirety of the game's advertising. That and a clipped together trailed of the intro\cosmospheres that made it look like some lesbian action was gonna happen.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, it is kind of a dating sim
Rance is more of a game than a VN as well actually, though it has porn.
While AT might not have porn it still has girls and lots of sexual innuendo.

Are you going to argue that the Princessmaker games are /v/ as well as it is more of a game than anything else and lacks ero?(except for implied sex etc)
I am well aware of the fact that AT is quite much less /jp/ related than Princessmaker, but even so I guess that the principle should be the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098577
I see this is pretty much has it proved this is one fag trying to shit up the thread.

Besides, janitor/mod was here just now, and this thread is on the front page for 2 hours now even with people actively whining about it. We have every right to discuss AT here and on /v/, there is nowhere that says that a topic can go on one board only and we have more then enough people here willing to discuss it here.

[Anonymous No.]

[spoilers]/jp/anon's that can't play it cause of lack of hardware and the like, bitches about it as they can't play it, claiming it isn't related[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.]

Reimu has appeared in a PS2 game, therefore Touhou is too mainstream for /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098614
never heard of that game, name please?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098623
Graffiti Kingdom. ZUN helped make it and put Reimu in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098623

Google it retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098603
I'm not the only one, janitor/mod was not here and if he was he only delete spam and blatant /b/ garbage, he he really was he the "trolling" would be deleted, you do not have the right to discuss this here, and it's the same three to five people discussing this.

>>4098609
I wouldn't be interested anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098603

To be fair, without the argument, there isn't much to talk about. Unless it's how to run the the thing on PCSX2.

Same for any >1 year old VN with a mediocre story.

Chroche was a pretty fun tsundere, I guess.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4098577
Sure it's galge, because you can romance the heroines. They even have their own individual routes/paths and endings.

If it makes it easier for you, think of it as eroge without the porn. That's why galge are primarily made for the consoles.

Now, explain to me why games like AT, Kimikiss, Galaxy Angel, and Tokimeki Memorial can't be posted on /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoODv8LVib8

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098634

Man, there's five namefags in this thread alone.

[eirei emiya !NERO.ByayA No.]

>>4098690
OH GOD THE DUB

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098690
I've always wondered where this came from...

[Anonymous No.]

AT2 is the better game, but NISA ran it through babelfish instead of actually translating. "break" misspelled as "brake" and basic grammar mistakes. AT2 has 100 lines of japanese dialogue cut for space, and its also missing 200 lines of english dialogue compared to the original japanese track.

honestly pirate them both, because buying them isn't going to make you feel better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098817
you could always wait for the re-translation project to finish
http://at2.limitedwish.railsplayground.net/pmwiki.php/Main/ProjectStatus

[Anonymous No.]

oh my god there is some seriously angry nerd in this thread

Get both if you can, OP. Really though, even if you buy one/both, download the undubs.

Especially for the second one, since you can patch it to remove the game-breaking bugs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098839
that won't work because i bought the limited edition and saw the horror firsthand.

best part was when NISA stated the bug was a "difficulty increaser." i used another bug they left in to get past the bug they added. i'm not buying anything from NISA ever again.

[Anonymous No.]

>best part was when NISA stated the bug was a "difficulty increaser."

[Anonymous No.]

I dunno, AT was kinda good, but it lacked something very improtant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098846
Topic has gone to dogs
But I'm probably going to get a Swap Magic now instead.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to play AT2 since the voices of the two main girls are Miyuki Sawashiro and Ami Koshimizu, both their voices make me cum buckets.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4098920
God tier HCGs are god tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098955
Pointless catchphrase.

Pointless post.

[Anonymous No.]

in case anyone doesn't already know, this >>4098846 >>4098920 is the Atelier-G CGset (also a game? not sure if the full iso is around anywhere though)

>>>/rs/atelier-g

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098937
<Good!>

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

http://www.mediafire.com/?eolqyhdutjw

Doujinshi I poorly scanned for /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098979

I love you~

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098892
What.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4098989
thanks man