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4095022 No.4095022 [Reply] [Original]

Why did ZUN make them grow up? Can't they just be like.... the Simpsons?

>> No.4095032
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4095032

It would be nice if non of us ever grew up.

>> No.4095049

People get older. You've also gotten older, Anonymous.

>> No.4095056

>>4095032
even youkai age ;_;

>> No.4095062

Look at it this way Anonymous, Marisa has only grown up to a more legal age, but her mentality is still that of a child. I mean just look at that big 'M' only a child would think that looks good.

>> No.4095064

>only a child would think that looks good.

Oh u

>> No.4095069

It's ok, ZUN will never turn Marisa into a real hag. Now, much like the Nanoha series, Touhou fans can enjoy their favourite characters without the creeping feeling they are pedophiles.

>> No.4095084
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>>4095062
>only a child would think that looks good

>> No.4095094

>>4095069
Strikers ruined Nanoha.

>> No.4095099

>>4095094
Nah, character design was better in StrikerS than in the 2 previous series.

>> No.4095101
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>>4095094
I wouldn't quite go that far, StrikerS had its good parts. Overall, it was subpar compared to the rest of the series, but there were quite a few moments towards the end that were actually quite good.

>> No.4095109

>>4095069
But StrikerS did make them into old hags.

>> No.4095113

>>4095094
If they hadn't dragged it out for 24 EPs with LOL! TRAINING! It would have been great.

>> No.4095116

First half of Strikers is boring as hell.
Nothing happens.

>> No.4095120
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4095120

>>4095101

As much as I hate to admit, it's true. I kind of cheered at this scene. Though it would have been better at half the length and with the characters still in loli form.

>> No.4095121

>>4095094

>>4095094

More like the shitty child characters (Elio, Caro and Lutecia) ruined StrikerS, along with bad pacing.

Nanoha and Fate getting older in of itself wasn't a bad thing, unless you were really set on them being kids forever. It's just StrikerS tried to juggled too many characters at once with more complex plot and monsters they can't draw for shit.

>> No.4095142

What would you guys do when ZUN drops Reimu and Marisa because they got too old for the fan base?

>> No.4095152

>>4095099
Still old

>>4095101
A's was much better, less pointless training more pointless loli action.

>>4095113
Could of, would of, should of.
Don't change the fact that it's still there.

>> No.4095158

>>4095142

>ZUN drop the two characters iconic of his series.
>ZUN stop using Marisa as a icon for running the game

oh u.

>> No.4095159

>>4095152
>more pointless loli action.
Signum would like to have a word with you.

>> No.4095161

I dont think they are growing up (at least in a 1:1 scale to our time)

ZUN's art is just getting better?

>> No.4095162

>>4095142
The fans like them as long as they are virgins.

>> No.4095175

It's all about supply and demand. It people stop liking them because they got too old, then no matter how unwilling it is for ZUN, he will have to move on to something new. Something loli.

>> No.4095193

>If people stop liking them because they got too old, then no matter how unwilling it is for ZUN, he will have to move on to something new.
>move on to something new.
To new fans, yes. The old ones can just die.

>> No.4095204

>>4095094
No, the Sound Stages after SSX ruined Nanoha. StrikerS was just a case of bad pacing, and a severe letdown from the crazy awesome of A's.

>> No.4095225
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4095225

>>4095175

>ZUN following the demands of his fan base.

Not been following this Touhou's for very long now have we. ZUN seems to just do whatever the fuck he wants. Oh what's that, you want to see Mima? Sorry guys, here have a boss that steals old PC98 attacks from your favourite bosses but is completely new to my current interests.

>> No.4095227
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>>4095193
S-She'll be back someday, Anonymous! Don't stop believing! ;_;

>> No.4095232

>>4095227
She'll be back in Touhou 14 that will be released in 2013!

You now realize that the world ends in 2012. ;_;

>> No.4095254

looking at some recent official non-ZUN art they still seem pretty young

>> No.4095264 [DELETED] 

>>4095225
"He(ZUN) jokingly states in an email that he has been working on, and will continue to work on, the Touhou Project games because a part of him lacks common sense. However, he has stated that the actual reason why he originally made the game series and Team Shanghai Alice is because he couldn't find any games he liked himself, so he decided to make games he liked entirely by himself. In the Swedish Magazine Interview, he replies to the last question with, "I'm going to keep making games that stand out, so if all my fans disappear I'm still happy I can keep doing the games I want." "

>> No.4095266
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>>4095254

>> No.4095269

She looks exactly the same age in all three images.

>> No.4095277

The real questions are:
How long apart the incidents in each game are?
How long a year in Gensokyo compared to the outside world is?
If humans age the same way humans in the outside world do?

>> No.4095302

>>4095277
- More or less real time
- Real time
- Yes

>> No.4095318

>>4095266
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/420164/
;_;

>> No.4095321

>>4095302
cool opinion bro

>> No.4095326

>>4095321
It's not an opinion.

>> No.4095333

>>4095318
The images are so small I can't see shit captin.

>> No.4095340

>>4095333
The images are not small, you're just stupid.

>> No.4095346
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4095346

>>4095333
CAPTAIN MURASA MINAMITSU

>> No.4095357

>>4095318
damn

>> No.4095364

>>4095321
It's cool, because it's ZUN's.

>> No.4095367

>>4095225
Zun called the ghost busters years ago, mima is not free any more, get over it guys!

>> No.4095374
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>>4095232
Don't mind me, just posting Marisa's Touhou 13: Something of Lasers outfit.

>> No.4095378

Over how many years did EoSD to UFO take?

>> No.4095383

>>4095374
But...2013!

>> No.4095391

>>4095318
I love this! let's find another one about Marisa.

>> No.4095397
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4095397

>>4095391

>> No.4095414

>>4095391
>>4095397
I forgot the name but there was one about Flandre going out from her basement to look for Marisa to play.

Spoiler ahead:
But she didn't realize the last time she has been out from the basement was like 80 years ago.

>> No.4095418

I don't recall exactly how much time has passed, but between EoSD and UFO it has been about 4-5 years. I'm basing this in the dates set on books and a few lines from the games abd the seasons they are set in. I think there is a timeline graph on the wiki.

>> No.4095420
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4095420

>>4095383
What IS Ragnarok? What ARE numbers? Don't think you can stop the Witch of Love with such things!

>> No.4095425

>>4095414

oh god...... no...

>> No.4095429

>>4095414

Flipflops, wasn't it? They love Flandre for some reason. That doujin quite good but I still preffer the one that they retell EoSD.

>> No.4095433

>>4095418
4-5 five years huh? So roughly half of the years the games have been out?

>> No.4095434

>>4095429
Definately not flip flops

>> No.4095440

>>4095420
Marisa knows damn well what numbers are. Her magic is based off of logic, reason, and her love of it.

>> No.4095442

>>4095429
>>4095434
aozora market, scarlet scarlet.
depressing as fuck and godly artstyle

>> No.4095444

One day your waifu will die.

>> No.4095445

>>4095434

Oh, I see. I can't check now since I'm posting from my phone, but wasn't it made by the same people that did that EoSD doujin? Two scarlet sacraments or something, the name escapes me.

>> No.4095448
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>>4095429
I think my favorite EoSD-related doujin are the Meiling-centric ones by Asatsuki Dou. It was quite refreshing to see a doujin manga that didn't portray Meiling as "bumbling semi-retarded gateguard" with gratuitous amounts of "LOLSAKUYA KNIVES MEILING AGAIN HAHAHAHAHA".

>> No.4095449

>>4095440
Delusions of a stupid beta.

>> No.4095453

>>4095434
>Definately
Definitely, you fucking retard.

>> No.4095456
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4095456

They can kill Touhous. Discuss.

>> No.4095460
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4095460

>>4095414
>>4095425
>>4095442

"Marisa where are you? I'm Flandre, I'm here to play, like always!"

>> No.4095463
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4095463

>>4095460

>> No.4095469

>>4095460
Marisa will die. But her soul will be sent back to the time when she was the happiest. And that was in the PC-98 games where Mima was still with us.

>> No.4095475

>>4095469
>implying even in her death will marisa or anyone for that matter remember mima

>> No.4095476

>>4095448
Try Asatsuki Dou's Save_the_Gate if you haven't already.
It's also a supercharged Meiling but without the coldness and murderous aura.
This Meiling is smart and witty and could beat up every intruder and does her job perfectly.
That might sound boring but it is because of this unusual version of her that makes it hilarious.

>> No.4095479

Are PC-98 Reimu, Alice, Marisa and Yuka different people from their Windows versions?

>> No.4095480

I hate danbooru commenters. I hate them. So much.

>> No.4095481

>>4095463
That's what you get for oversleeping.

>> No.4095485

>>4095480
Reading Danbooru comments is like reading Youtube comments, only more verbose.

>> No.4095488
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4095488

A WILD FLAN APPEARS!

>> No.4095491
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>>4095476
Ah, I already have it, thanks though! This page gets me every time.

>> No.4095495

>>4095491
Download link please?

>> No.4095497
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4095497

>>4095479
They're the same people, but yes, there are differences. Also, there's no mention of Yuka's mansion (so Elly is pretty much forgotten. Poor her. ;_;)

>> No.4095498

>>4095491
Meiling outwitting (i.e., blackmailing) Patchouli SAMA?!! Ludicrous!

>> No.4095500

>>4095497
Elly is the worst gate guard in any touhou game and better off forgotten.

>> No.4095501
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>> No.4095503

>>4095495
I'm in a good mood, so here: http://www.mediafire.com/?quzzoymmi0v..

But, for the future, all that was needed was to google "Asatsuki Dou" + "Save the Gate". Try leveling up your google-fu!

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>>4095488

>> No.4095506

>>4095501
Overrated.

>> No.4095511

>>4095504
What happened to my beloved tomboy?
Fucking BAKAFAGGOTS.

>> No.4095516

>>4095500
You're just mad because you couldn't graze the scythe boomerang. Or the tiles.

Come on though, she wasn't really all that bad.

>>4095498
And that's AFTER defeating Mystia and Mokou with a single punch! What CAN'T our intrepid gateguard do?!

>> No.4095517

>>4095497
Well Yuka has never been in any Windows games aside from PoFV so it is inevitable that Mugenkan would never be mentioned again.

That reminds me...why hasn't Yuka been put in any of the fighting games? She should be perfect for those.

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4095520

eye am exite

>> No.4095521

>>4095516
>What CAN'T our intrepid gateguard do?!

Stay awake through an entire shift?

>> No.4095523

>>4095517
Well, if PC-98 is canon OH YOU, ZUN, Yuka sorta has the Ultimate Magic. So, while it would indeed be interesting, she'd be a rather insanely unbalanced and overly-powerful character. Plus, she'd knock Suika and Youmu out of top-tier, thus causing at least half of SWR players to lose their mains.

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>>4095463

>> No.4095530

>>4095523
I stand by my theory that Yukari slept through the entirety of the PC-98 games and suddenly woke up at the very end of the clusterfuck after Perfect Square. She rearranged everything and effectively retconned the series. She then took a nap.

>> No.4095533

Unlike Suwako, Yuuka isn't really the sort to hold back. She'd murder everyone in a fighting game.

>> No.4095534

>>4095521
You know what? She DID stay awake the entire shift in that story.

>> No.4095539

>>4095530
Isn't it because she is busy fighting the moon rabbits while the rest of the gensokyo people are busy fighting among themselves?

>> No.4095542

>>4095539
Didn't the first Lunar Invasion take place several years before the PC-98 games?

>> No.4095543
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4095543

>>4095530
>Mystic Square

But yeah, I could see Yukari doing that. Seems like everything she does is simply to get a rise out of me.

>>4095533
Oh, come on, Yuka is only joking when she says she kills people! Well, most of the time. Actually, it's sort-of an unsubstantiated claim, but the possibility exists that she's merely joking! Err, well, it may be likely that she's not. But there's still some remote chance of it, so I stand by my original claim!

>> No.4095549

>>4095543
True that no one has ever WITNESSED Yuka kill anyone but...you really think that she'd leave any witnesses? The sunflowers need their fertilizers bro.

>> No.4095553

>>4095549
She probably means 'kill' in the same way Reimu 'exterminates' youkai.

>> No.4095555

omg are touhou rly that evil O_O

>> No.4095561

>>4095553
So that means that the only characters in Touhou who have confirmed kills are:
-Yuyuko
-Mokou
-Kaguya
-Sakuya

Anyone else?

>> No.4095565

>>4095561
Reimu killed a dead girl.

>> No.4095568

>>4095555
>5555
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF XD

>> No.4095569
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>>4095565

>> No.4095574

>>4095561
I wouldn't be surprised if all the Youkai have killed people before. Afterall, they eat humans.

The main reason no one (credible) dies nowadays is because of the Spellcard rules.

>> No.4095576

>>4095561
>Reimu: All done ♥ Completely sealed.
>Orange: I don't want to die yet~ (sweat)
>Reimu: You should give up. This is your fate.

So, does this count as a kill?

>> No.4095583

>>4095574
>Afterall, they eat humans.
The Youkai contract would like to have a word with them then.

>>4095576
Orange! I forgot about her. For good reason.

>> No.4095588

>>4095561
Doesn't Eirin have definte kills, too?

>> No.4095592

>>4095588
No proof.

Eirinjustasplanned.jpg

>> No.4095606

I'm sure in the ZUN novel it did say she frag'd some rabbits.

>> No.4095613

Has Cirno ever killed anyone? Accidental or otherwise?

>> No.4095615

>>4095613
All Youkai have killed. They are all murderers.

>> No.4095617
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>>4095613
She's only 60 for god's sake. Don't try to make a child into a murderer!

>> No.4095620

>>4095615
Even Daiyousei? ;_;

>> No.4095621

>>4095617
Would it be alright if we made her into a woman first then?

>> No.4095623

>>4095613
She wouldn't be our beloved tomboyish daughter if she were a murderer, Anonymous.

>> No.4095625

>>4095621
Ugh. Stay away from her, you goddamn pedos.

>> No.4095626
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>>4095621

>> No.4095631

>>4095561
>Sakuya
Confirmed where?

>> No.4095636

>>4095318
Komachi's scythe isn't sharp you damn secondary-artist. I noticed other things too but that's the most glaring.

>> No.4095638

>>4095631
Who do you think feeds Flan and Remi? What do you think she feeds them?

>> No.4095647

>>4095638
It's mentioned somewhere that people volunteer, I think?

>> No.4095652
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>>4095647
I am...unconvinced, but curious. Please elaborate.

>> No.4095657

From the PCB prologue:
とはいえ、妖怪の主な食料は人間である。特に天然物が人気だ。そのため、
食料班は定期的に人間を狩りに出ていた。もちろんそのとき人間に妖怪の
存在を気付かれてはいけない。妖怪達は、色々な事故や家出に見せかけて
、人間を狩っていた。その程度の行方不明者はニュースにもならない、人間
界の人間は増えすぎていたのだ。
However, youkai eat humans and natural humans are favoured as delicacies. Teams of cooks regularly venture beyond the barrier to hunt humans. They apply many methods to conceal their existence from humans of the outer world; accidents and people who run away from home... There are too many humans today for anyone to notice when a few go missing.

>> No.4095661

>>4095657
And everyone keeps saying that you can't leave Gensokyo from within the border.

>> No.4095663

>>4095638
Blood.

However, the acquisition of blood does not require death.

Therefore, this does not constitute confirmation of murder.

>> No.4095672

>>4095663
That's true...but wouldn't Reimu catch wind of this at some point? And I don't really think Keine would allow such a thing to happen either.

>> No.4095679
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4095679

Reimu has the same age as ZUN and she ages the same as him.
When ZUN die, Reimu will also die, with all the Touhou games, forever.

>> No.4095684

>>4095672
What are you attempting to argue?

I'm saying that this does not confirm that Sakuya has killed anyone.

>> No.4095687

>>4095679
Reimu is already middle-aged and alcoholic?

>> No.4095688

>>4095663
from Remilia's Bio in EoSD:

>She is a light eater. In other words, she can drink only a little blood at a time and must leave the rest behind, so the humans off of whom she feeds become a bit anemic, but usually stay alive.

>> No.4095689

So, I see you haven't read PMiSS. It explains this vampire stuff...

>> No.4095699

Why do people think that Sakuya has never killed anyone yet? She uses knives like a Macross Missile Spam and has the movement skills on par with a Nanaya. She must have had a use for that before 1997 when she became Remi's maid.

>> No.4095701

Ah. Go read the vampire article in PMiSS.

The details of this contract are that the youkai will offer them humans from which to feed (*3); in return, the vampires will not attack humans living in Gensokyo.

3: It's said they are outside humans whose deaths are of no consequence (suicides, etc.)

I like this because it outright encourages Remilia fans to commit suicide in hopes of meeting their waifu.

>> No.4095706
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>>4095699
Lunarian vampire hunter

>> No.4095710

>>4095701
There are anons in Gensokyo? So that is why there are so many newfags lately...that's where all the veterans go to.

>> No.4095713

Anymore grim dark touhou doujins? Not necessarily blood and gore, just sad is fine too.

>> No.4095715

>>4095688
This makes for even less confirmation of Sakuya having killed anyone, since Remilia's eating habits would make no difference if Sakuya was acquiring the blood for her.

It does imply that Remilia has killed someone, though it may have been before she came to Gensokyo.

>> No.4095734

>>4095706
>Experimental Eirin Clone Vampire Hunter

>> No.4095738

>>4095734

wat

>> No.4095763

>>4095734
Eirin's bow can pierce a vampire with a wooden stake before it even knows she's there. Hits the heart, every time.

>> No.4095768

>>4095763

Eirin shoots Gae Bolgs?

>> No.4095772

>>4095768
Trace On...

>> No.4095776

>>4095763
I am the Bow of my Sword.

>> No.4095804

>>4095626
This is when we play on lunatic, isn't it?

>> No.4095810

>>4095804
Pacifist run on lunatic.

>> No.4095813

>>4095804
And you do a pacifist run without dying.

>> No.4095827

>>4095804
And without moving left or right.

>> No.4095834

>>4095827
>>4095813
>>4095810
In SA, using Aya.

>> No.4095842

>>4095834
Blindfolded while using your feet to control your character.

>> No.4095847

>>4095842
No sound, and you're using a madcatz controller.

>> No.4095852

>>4095847
monitor turned off

>> No.4095854

>>4095847
madcatz is just going too far...

>> No.4095855

>>4095852
But you're already blindfolded, silly!

>> No.4095862

>>4095852
>>4095855
>>4095854
>>4095847
>>4095842
>>4095834
>>4095827
>>4095813
>>4095810
>>4095804
All smalltime...

Play it on Windows ME using a Sidewinder Joystick.

>> No.4095869

>>4095862
We were discussing handicaps which you could use while still being able to complete the game. Your suggestion simply isn't feasible.

>> No.4095881

Youmu is half-human.

How fast will she age?

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4095883

>>4095638
>>4095647

I WISH TO VOLUNTEER MY BODY TO FEED FLANDRE.

IT IS MY MISSION IN LIFE.

>> No.4095890

HER NAME IS FRANDLE!

>> No.4095896

>>4095890
Flapdrol

>> No.4095898
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>>4095883
Define "Feed"...

>> No.4095901

FLANDRE BELONGS TO THE DUTCH EMPIRE

>> No.4095907

>>4095881
We know nothing but "slower than normal human". Her half-ghost dad is 300+ years old.

>> No.4095912

>>4095907
How would Youmu reproduce anyway? If she gets knocked up by a human then the baby would be 1/4 ghost at best.

>> No.4095914

>>4095912
Genetics don't work that way.

>> No.4095918
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4095918

The father of Youmu's children...

>> No.4095919

>>4095901
GEEF VLAANDEREN TERUG AAN HAAR OORSPRONKELIJKE EIGENAAR

>> No.4095929

Huranzuru

>> No.4095941

>>4095914
>Implying Touhou follows scientific norms.

>> No.4095981

Is Marisa virgin?

>> No.4095998

>>4095981
The mushrooms got to her first.

>> No.4096001

>>4095981
Well, she's never had a cock inside her...

>> No.4096175

Is Patchery a virgin?

>> No.4096195

How often do youkai menstruate, if ever?

>> No.4096219

>>4096195
Every day.

>> No.4096274

>>4096195
They are not humans, so they don't menstruate.

>> No.4096425

>>4095912
Youmu isn't a half-ghost in the same way that a half-elf is born from human and elf parents.
>* Although both "Kon" (魂) and "Paku" (魄) are "soul", their elements are different. "Kon" stands for a mental soul, which is separated from a body as soon as human dies and ascends to Heaven; "Paku" is a physical soul, which remains in the body a few days and goes back to the Earth. In this case, "Kon" is Youmu's phantom half, and "Paku" is the human half. The entire Konpaku family is comprised of half-phantom half-humans, as noted by Perfect Memento.

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