/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Touhou 18.5 is out on steam and disk if you attended comiket. Steam rips are already up but the steam version even legitimate is throwing false virus alerts.

CD rips soon.

[Anonymous No.]

Well it's 10AM now but I beat it.
Fun game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40893956
Forgot image.

[Anonymous No.]

cool game, I hope someone mods in a real endless mode at some point, with bosses every 10 waves or something
shame challenge mode wasn't already endless

[Anonymous No.]

The grind at the lower levels at 1 power is completely killing my desire to keep playing. I can't do this anymore right now.

[Anonymous No.]

doujinstyle rip
https://www.mediafire.com/file/peg7wwfqnmj3k9w/th18.5.zip/file

moriyashrine steam rip
https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/961-touhou-185-black-market-of-bulletphilia-~-100th-black-market/

both give false positives

[Anonymous No.]

Is the last boss in the 4th market a secret one or something? I've been spamming the stage with Junko's card non-stop for 20 minutes but she's just not appearing.
And even before Junko's card I've probably cleared the stage like 15 times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40894614
Equip Chimata's card

[Anonymous No.]

>>40894614
Use Chimata's card.

[Anonymous No.]

damn why some niggas say this game's music is weak, all of them sound really nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>40894872
Because they're /v/ trolls trying to get a reaction out of us

[Anonymous No.]

damnit 5th market is too difficult for me

[Anonymous No.]

So did anyone figure out why Marisa had red eyes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40896384
It was nothing

[Anonymous No.]

Wake me up when the translation is out

[Anonymous No.]

>>40896384
ZUN forgot and everyone thought too deeply of it.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R67kIaQ3eP0
These guys are fast as always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40893956
Are you the first /jp/er to beat it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40894872
>>40895608
They're not trolling. ZUN's music has been relatively mid as of late. To argue the recent games have good music is an insult to the earlier games. We'll see if this game is an exception to this trend. I'm downloading it now. And yeah, these games still have 2 to 3 great tracks but it's not like the old days where every track was solid.

[Anonymous No.]

cute

[Anonymous No.]

Are the extra flandres worth buying? I'm not seeing any difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40897738
What are these cards? I didn't get them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40897612
Maybe you just have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898105
The consensus of the Touhou community is that the recent games don't have as good music as the golden era of games. Any poll that has been made on moriyashrine, shrinemaiden, or even /jp/ demonstrates this. You are such a ZUN fanboy that if he took a shit you would argue that it doesn't smell that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do the doujinstyle and moriyashrine releases have two different hashes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898036
You have to beat the challenge market for Marisa and I think Reimu is the last card you unlock.

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone ripped the OST yet?

[Anonymous No.]

Smol brain here. Can someone explain to me the purpose of this game? Unconnected Marketeers came out a year ago and it looks like he's just rehashing most of the content from that game. The Cirno and Aya game had new gameplay mechanics. What is new about this game? Like what is the gimmick? Again, smol brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40897612
>ZUN's music has been relatively mid as of late.
>mid
/jp/を離れる

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898275
moriyashrine is a steam release de-steam'd
doujinstyle is i'm assuming a disk release, or if its steam it's using a different method to remove the steam drm

that 41de- hash is from steam without DRM removed, as in no crack

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898624
>/jp/を離れる
Speak English on this American imageboard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898749

[Anonymous No.]

>>40897612
In Zun's defense the only decimal game that had all around great soundtrack was ISC, everything else is 1 great track 4 okay tracks

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898782
In general we can all agree that the soundtrack becomes less impressive and interesting as we move further away from the classic era

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898888
Personally I like his techno untzy modern style more. The older compositions are more impressive but also harder to listen to.

[Anonymous No.]

Played it, pretty fine game, had fun. People call it shit tho, worst even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898888
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898888
how do we Return To Tradition ™?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKH65i2opws

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY-HdOG5lX4
I love this one. Does it remind anyone else of PC-98 era touhou? Especially the melody at 0:43-1:05. I wonder if it's similar to any particular song or if it just evokes it generally for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898888
I think people are overdramatic on both ends of argument.
I will admit one thing - in modern games there are more duds that fall flat, but there are still some absolutely amazing pieces.
Wbawc is the best example of that:
Stage 4/5 themes as well as Keiki/Mayumi/Eika themes are great.
On the other hand Yachie/Saki/Urumi themes really failed to resonate with me.

I think that his modern style is alot more varied and experimental, while his older style (read 6-10 era) was just him doing what he was doing best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898888
Yeah, ZUN peaked at LLS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899042
>while his older style (read 6-10 era) was just him doing what he was doing best.
He got a girlfriend around that time. He's too busy fucking her to make great music.

>>40898888
I find it interesting that almost all musicians have a prime then fade into irrelevance. I can only think of a handful of singers or bands that are still relevant from 3 decades ago. I think it happens because music trends change over time so the artist tries to change what got them to the dance which ultimately ruins them. Also, when they mature out of doing drugs/partying it also plays a major role.

Luckily for ZUN Touhou is a collection of different things so if his music is bad the gameplay/characters can carry him.

[Anonymous No.]

It's cool how for the last 10 years new Touhou game threads almost instantly turn into discussing how ZUN is shit now. Fuck this place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899194
>turn into discussing how ZUN is shit now
I blame this anon >>40898105 for denying an established fact which sparked a shitstorm. It's been established that the music quality has diminished since 6-10 era, so there's no need to argue.

>>40899042
Nobody is arguing the music is bad, it's just not of the same quality. And nobody is saying there aren't still great songs. They're just fewer and far between.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899194
The board which must not be name named is having infinitely better discussion of the game music and waifus, return from whence we all came but deny, back to the source

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898888
I completely disagree with that. You may not like it as much, but calling it less interesting is disingeneous in my opinion. I think ZUN's philosophy has shifted into trying to musically translate more abstract contexts, whether it be character traits or contextual traits like the nature of the place the shooting takes place at. I'm not saying this is new for ZUN, but I believe it takes more of an emphasis in recent titles. My theory is that ZUN doesnt fancy the cool factor as much anymore, just wants to make his Japanese myths shooting game and make a musical story of it. To take an example, in PC98 or EoSD, a character like Megumu would have likely gotten a more tense & powerful theme that loosely conveys the feeling protagonists would have facing a high ranking Tengu. Her theme in UM isn't that, it's more nuanced and chooses to try to translate to its best the scheming aspect of the character while still retaining that Tengu chief aspect, but it's balancing all of that & tries to convey it musically too.
Is this change for more abstract, often difficult to translate theming in the music a hinderance to the first impressions of a given song? For a lot of people and even I, yes, because it's not what we're used to, and I don't mean that by Touhou standards, but by gaming conventions as a whole
Can people prefer the old direction? Absolutely, and i've been talking as if it's braindead "This is the final boss so it's gotta sound cool" but that's not what i'm trying to say, Touhou has always mixed what the character was about and the context of the battle/story, just that I believe the order of priority may have switched.
But no, I don't think it's uninteresting.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best way to get money? I just don't feel playing the stages all over and over again just to get a few dozen more coins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899585
ZUN is working on a pay wall for downloadable content. You will be able to buy coins for a small price of 30.00 USD.

>>40892982
>throwing false virus alerts
It's not false, it is there for bitcoin mining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899585
If you literally need just a few dozen then take your mallet to the hardest stage you have unlocked and throw your magic circle into a fairy just before it shits out its danmaku and instantly mallet it. You can suicide when you have enough money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899637
>It's not false, it is there for bitcoin mining.
ZUN really needs that booze money huh...

[Anonymous No.]

>>40897334
That's Eurobeat for you, drifting first in doujin music

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899075
Fuck off, Zun's true peak was MS and it's a fact. Windows era was a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898782
I don't even remember any song from ISC, neither others .5 games except VD, it has a strange horror vibe that got me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899903
You're trying too hard to sound like an old-oldfag when in truth you didn't know Touhou existed until the PC games like the rest of us. Those PC-98 games audio quality sounds like trash like every other PC-98 game and they only have a handful of memorable themes such as Mima's theme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899970
>they only have a handful of memorable themes
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40900005
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899970
Oh no someone took a joke seriously... faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>40900053
You're cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898888
I only wish ZUN to stop doing the electric guitar thing. I just don't like in most cases each time he uses it. (Exceptions would be like Extra Okina's theme, by instance)

[Anonymous No.]

>>40900053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI6ctU6xOlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS6JkYfgeQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdAyCWh0238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLzTvn4U014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FZUFe80v7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llO4PINy2e8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4gaWY5THh4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eoo-W-wWHUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFk-OMchOgg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8KP9sbei8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szhq0dV-szY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UZJbdvHKSI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd0bJ0rrgaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_2mj4M-Rmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFqakHJ7-jI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZwOGMEAbQo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMlFCwOjIMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLeMEpDDGiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHOF0qPwEzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytSxZnZ_A_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cgiEa74RPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY64WT6ZBRo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ9Q5Kb_T1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwPUjQmTVRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZyjaO9p0wQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm4PvG7RGwU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8XGQF34-9A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj-hhCHC8hM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygB_MKgqXdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTLqnME57vo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBb4sr2Wrmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWcJtankEr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmN9btd7Ttg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFBldCY1PoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CeLvtwCMTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGwLf4vyJU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiN9rqnxw20

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898888
DDC, LoLK and UM music assrapes EoSD, PCB and IN.

[Anonymous No.]

I finally manage to get a completely game-breaking combination, and then Saki shows up and just ignores all the rules the rest of the game has followed. Fuck you, ZUN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40900297
What did she ignore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40900297
Your first mistake was being held back by common sense in gensokyo

[Anonymous No.]

zun made me do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>40900347
Her lasers can be frozen, but they can't be deleted, so you end up with a solid wall of lasers that you can't avoid. I just found out that the bullets Suika leaves behind her in her mist spell also can't be deleted until they start moving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40900424
Drum delets them just fine I think. Just had 2 runs against Saki and split her wig without much trouble both times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40900297
>Wave 7
>Wave 6
What does this mean? Can someone explain the gameplay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40900648
Label every card he brought at the end of said wave. The shop shows up each time he times up the wave. Up to 3 cards can be bought at least he bought the free money card instead, which always shows up first and close the shop automatically if selected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40897612
Subjective opinion. I think LoLK, ISC, WBaWC and UM soundtracks are all great except for few.
Meanwhile, I don't praise a lot of early stage soundtracks on earlier games and some only grew on me years later after listening to them in such long period i.e. Mokou's theme, Keine's stage theme, a majority of EoSD tracks, etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898152
>>40898888
People just don't listen to recent music for as long as older stuff (obviously). That or they already set the standard from earlier stuff he made or whatever they were exposed to first.
If you turn around the timeline order of when these music come from (say UM came in 2003 while EoSD was released last year) I'm sure the opinions won't change. It's better to say that ZUN's music has always been so-so and certainly inconsistent due to experimenting and style-change in almost every works and need some setup in order to enjoy them. It's already weird that people enjoy blaring trumpets and ice cream jingles that's been present since forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40896384
Zun is a hack

[Anonymous No.]

>>40901177
I've been around since 2005 and there were never this much discussions over music quality on old /a/. We're all ZUN fanboys here. It's not like we're critiquing his recent music just for the sake of doing it. I like what this >>40899460 anon said. He's making the music more atmospheric and character driven, which is not inherently bad, it's just different from what we're used to. I'm old fashion though, final bosses, for instance, need to have bad ass music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40901271
>Zun is a hack
>Zun
Critiquing ZUN's recent work doesn't make you a troll, but a post like this is clearly from a /v/ troll trying to fit in. He doesn't even know who ZUN is and discovered Touhou a week ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40901366
So it does boil down to time and personal preference. Well it's not like I'd argue what people like, but saying ZUN objectively dipped from the "perfection" of older stuff seems pretty biased when there's a lot of time and exposition factor to consider, and his intentions too if you want.
Personally I find older games has as much "meh" as newer works (including those oh-so-good late bosses themes), and vice-versa for the good stuff but of course each to their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899194
this game is so rushed ZUN couldn't even display the boss indicator correctly. this shit is indefensible

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898888
Music is one of two things that ZUN still does a good job of, most of the time at least, the other being artwork

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899194
The /v/ threads have gotten bad enough that people are coming back here to discuss the game, which means the shitposters from /vg/ came here too.
Just ignore them, their posts are easy enough to spot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40897738
the crimson slasher face is spot on

[Anonymous No.]

>>40902188
The /v/ and /vg/ threads are nothing like this singular thread,pretty much every new release had and is going to have people talk about what they not only like but dislike about it. If you want "positive only" discussion go literally anywhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40900172
PC98 title themes always have such powerful intros

[Anonymous No.]

What cards are worth getting in the later stages?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40902188
>The /v/ threads have gotten bad enough that people are coming to the board populated with whiny secondaries who lost their board to vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Waiting warmly for the translation..

[Anonymous No.]

>>40905425
It seems like most of it has already been translated. https://www.thpatch.net/wiki/Th185

[Anonymous No.]

>>40904803
Do not bully the secondaries too much

[Anonymous No.]

>>40910347
This is what happens when you enable secondaries too much >>40839531

[Anonymous No.]

>>40904803
/jp/ was already long overtaken by 3dpd generals by the time vtubers got here, and they ended up mostly getting quarantined to their own board anyway.
The only ones still here are a few generals that are under some absurd preconception that they belong here.
By the way, who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40904803
I hate nu-/jp/ but concentrated Touhou general threads that turned into discord chat circlejerk in order to keep it afloat on fast board are much shittier, calling them cancer would be a compliment
Current /jp/ may have its share of influx of underages and nu-internet retards, even on the Touhou and pro-"old /jp/" side, but I admit it's still got people who can grab and decipher any Touhou info faster than anywhere else, and I still take it over shitty chat groups of 10 posters any day

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get more card slots?

[Anonymous No.]

You all probably never noticed the /jp/ poll a few weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40911982
You beat more bosses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40909746
>thpatch
Does nobody make standalone patches anymore? I don't like this auto-update bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

People keep mentioning /v/. Whenever I go there I never see a Touhou thread. Then again, I don't really go on /v/.

[Anonymous No.]

People keep complaining about secondaries when they don't even have a Lunatic 1CC (which is the bare minimum)
That's basically /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>40913018
It's trolls trying to get others to migrate to /v/
Just take a guess who'd want this board to themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>40912100
What was it about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898982
try playing it at 75% speed in d minor

[Anonymous No.]

>>40913351
Is there a reason why the post quality has taken such a massive dip?
>>40899194
I tend to see foul posts within thirty minutes of checking threads. I'm probably not going to read this thread anytime soon.
I'm guessing someone sparked an argument again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40913832
Various questions about touhou, including a question about 1ccs. Proved that almost all /jp/sies play the games, making the those whining about secondaries in /jp/ look like idiots.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the max slots for ability cards and percentage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40917863
6 cards 350%

[Anonymous No.]

I can tell ZUN rushed this one out for Comiket. Damn it ZUN

[Anonymous No.]

>>40916314
>Proved that almost all /jp/sies play the games
lol. Secondaries actually believe this
Try going into any of the Touhou generals and all you get are secondaries. Anyone who actually give a fuck about the series wouldn't bother posting in them

[Anonymous No.]

>>40919390
Nice delusion, got more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40918848
Dumb /v/ trolls ran out of ways to insult the game so they use the classic "i-it's rushed!!!" despite the game being one of the best in the franchise so far. Idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40920049
Explain why the boss indicator is broken if ZUN even bothered to play test it
>despite the game being one of the best in the franchise so far
It's even worse than VD. I'm not even sure how any can like this game

[Anonymous No.]

>>40920049
>despite the game being one of the best in the franchise so far. Idiot.
This game may be his weakest work yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>40920049
>despite the game being one of the best in the franchise so far.
If we're talking .5 games not made by tasofro... probably yeah.
Actually, I dunno. I think I prefer Fairy Wars, but its definitely better than the photography games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40920160
Good players don't use the boss marker anyway, they look ahead to see what is coming. Naturally, ZUN would be looking ahead as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40921181
StB and DS are literally his best works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40916314
Got a link to it? I remember this one from January unless that's what you're referring to
>>/jp/thread/S37967914#p38078356

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>>40897612
>>40898152
I thought the consensus was that his recent music was some of his best? Unless you want to give a total score of each games music for comparison, but that's difficult to measure for an entire community.
Taking a look at the most recent popularity poll, Idolatrize World got 3rd place. Immemorial Marketeers didn't score quite as well, but it still ranked 31 of all touhou themes.
I'm surprised the stage themes of touhou 18 didn't get more attention, personally every stage theme in touhou 18 is great.

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>>40921504
>I'm surprised the stage themes of touhou 18 didn't get more attention, personally every stage theme in touhou 18 is great.
Agree on that. Stage 3, 5 and EX have fantastic themes. Others are pretty good too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40921613
The way the sun goes behind the mountain on stage 5 and the fairies start shooting stars as the music gets to the climax is so good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40921504
>I thought the consensus was that his recent music was some of his best?
Fuck no. From a technically point of view his recent music is more superior because it tries to create an atmosphere that is fitting for the characters of each stage, but this results in it being too abstract. The themes just aren't as good as the classical era and every metric points to fans not enjoying it. I've been here since 2005 and I've never seen this much complaints about Touhou's music that used to be the one thing that was universally praised. Also, the fan remixes are not as popular as they used to be. ZUN's music was getting so popular that it got featured on CNN. Now fans are forced to make remixes of ZUN's old work just to get people to listen to it. When was the last time IOSYS blew up or went viral. They just don't have much to work with any more.

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>>40921656
Love visuals in that stage.
I like to think that stage 5 in UM is a giant callback to stage 4 in MOF. In both you scale the mountain, and while in MOF you have that amazing moment in the end where mountain falls into dark only to show that sunset over the horizon as you face Aya, stage 5 in UM picks up from them as natural continuation.
It starts with the sunset, showing you first stars as you progress the stage to fully starry sky as you encounter Megumu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40921279
He only left broken to fuck with noobs, rightfully so

[Anonymous No.]

>>40921751
IOSYS always sucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40921347
Yeah, my sense of time is off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40923088
i'm sorry to say you have ear retardation

[Anonymous No.]

OST Download link?

[Anonymous No.]

Sanny just shoots fucking walls
The fuck am I supposed to do, I can only mallet once, and the stage is hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>40925012
Press X to slow down some of the bullets and break the walls. I find it helps to do it lower on the screen, so you slow down a smaller segment.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you fight the 4th boss in the early stages?
I already beat the kappas I just need to know to clear shit out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40921751
Modern era is the BEST EVER to them because they're kids with no nostalgia baggage. Remember you're talking to highschoolers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40925061
Just pick up Junko's card and spam restart until the boss appears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40925593
I get the feeling I need a special trigger for the 4th bosses in like Stages 1-3. Is it really just dumb luck because I spent forever trying to get Mike to appear in stage 1 but never saw a 4th boss

[Anonymous No.]

>>40925603
Equip Chimata's card and do the stages again

[Anonymous No.]

>>40925616
I did that for Stage 1 once and only got a normal boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40925622
Keep trying

[Anonymous No.]

>>40925631
That's incredibly fucking stupid thanks ZUN

[Anonymous No.]

>>40925634
RNG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40924937
I don't think one exists.
Does anyone here know how to go about extracting the music from the game's files?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40926098
I extracted them myself, can upload if you'd like.
Only the original tracks too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40926108
That would be very much appreciated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40926124
https://mega.nz/file/g10TjAab#hs-Rc0dCxKBb5UVWrMLUrhYGrIWRKSwwole895FNoVQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>40926151
Have you got the rest of the tracks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40926231
Those 6 are all the original ones. The rest are 1 from VD and 3 from UM.

I can upload a version with them for the sake of completionism if you'd like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40926252
Your zip file only has Youkai Hook-On in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40926281
that's odd. Gonna fix that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40926281
>>40926287
Let's try that again. Just the original tracks.
https://mega.nz/file/908EBLSL#V8tPXzQ64JtZIQ7Q2yZRSW-sV7Guun6YKeBXH4IuqKM

[Anonymous No.]

>>40926343
Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40925603
I was in a similar situation to your's on stage 4, and I'm pretty sure it's just RNG.
I spammed the stages with Junko's card (flame dragon), and it worked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40926343
thanks, anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>40918848
Didn't he literally say something like that anyway? Funny seeing that butthurt dude trying to falseflag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40925153
WRONG, I'm just trying to discuss facts here. Also, "nostalgia" is kind of the reason I like Okina's themes so much, even if they aren't popular in the touhou community. Let's not ignore that nostalgia is also one of the reasons music like Idolatrize World is popular.
I can agree that older games had more memorable melodies, to an extent, but I'd also argue that every single touhou game had some part of the soundtrack where ZUN struck gold.

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone who dislikes this game is from the /v/ discord, I'm tired of dealing with faggots who cry about ZUN not making quality products (like he ever stopped). It's no different than the situation on /vp/. You're being played for fools if you take it seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40932233
They're just looking for the next thing to shit on like VD. VD is also overhated in my eyes. 100th is flawed but it's more in a "that's silly" way but the game still has heart in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40932423
I hate VD because I hate every character relating to the outside world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40932610
Maribel and Renko too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40932620
Yes, though less so because they never show up in games. Just CDs and cringey doujin games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40932233
Go play more touhou games and try to at least LNB it or score it and you will probably understand why this game is bad or why people say that

[Anonymous No.]

>>40921751
There clearly weren't that much Touhoufags in 2005 and arguably 4chan, and certainly Touhou fans, weren't as hostile and butthurt in that period compared to later years when it started to grew rapidly.
There also weren't much things to compare with at the beginning. The longer Touhou goes the more standard is built up from older titles. It's only after a number of titles that people start separated the games with "era" and when ZUN's experimental mindset and difference between works became more appearent that people start making comparison. I remember this started during UFO-TD era, which coincided with the time of cooldown after the surge of Touhou boom during PoFV-MoF era. Newfags started wondering why there arent any memeworthy songs like IOSYS remix of Cirno or Suwako's theme then proceed to shitting anything past MoF, even though they do gradually become popular in the community.
As for why IOSYS don't make "worldwide hits" anymore, all of those came from flash PVs that everyone simply ceased to make altogether at one point, either because flash craze also died or animated PV is no longer worth the cost. Literally without them IOSYS is just another obscure circle that still latching on popular themes, while a lot of other circles do make arranges of newer musics. It's just none of these circles actually ever try to aim for mainstream recognition.

>Now fans are forced to make remixes of ZUN's old work just to get people to listen to it.
This is only true for new circles that's just trying to compete, because yeah U.N Owen or Yukari are cultural icons at this point so it is their best shot to be recognized, but again it's likely more because of their build-up popularity than anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40933533
The flash PVs are what made them stand out. It was definitely a labor of love sort of thing back then but now its marketable.
Then again that also describes doujin/fanworks everywhere today. Even modding communities are fractured as hell between paywalls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40932423
I liked VD as some sort of bizarre mix of StB and the mainline games (really, I still don't know why people still seem to hate it so much other than the obvious meme spam thanks to the localization). I didn't like 100M because its gameplay felt way too simple and repetitive, at least based on the few hours I've played of it the entire game seems to revolve around repeating stages fighting generic waves of enemies until you reach one out of four bosses who will always use the same patterns too and that's it, the only variation you can have is on the equipped cards you've been grinding. Sure I haven't played the game much besides that and I'm willing to give it another chance, but I don't see my opinion changing much. Nice on ZUN for trying something different and getting the roguelite formula out of his system though.
This whole narrative of "anyone who doesn't love this game is from /v/" is some extremely retarded form of falseflagging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40899648
Here's an even better method: Just get Urumi and 3x Aunn with the mallet and stall on bosses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40935281
Yeah this method in general just breaks the game. Just spam magic circles and you can even clear overdrive stages without trying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40934385
Everyones got to to eat you know, people don't make things out of love unless it's to market something

[Anonymous No.]

>>40935505
That's definitely a modern take on things, yes. Congratulations on explaining what I already explained.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40934385
If you talk about the effort put into the PVs it's not like Touhou animation itself has gotten rare (we actually got more plenty now even). Some of those 2hu PV flash artists like 216 and kouki_ht are still active making Touhou stuff.
It's just the music circles who want to sell and made them popular has stopped using animators to make PVs. They just switched to picture slideshows probably to save the cost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40900172
Bless you anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally got around to downloading and playing this game, and honestly, I think it's pretty dang good
It isn't fantastic by any means, which is what everyone is saying thus far, but I don't think it has to be
It's what I expected and I'm not disappointed, I enjoy seeing the characters again and it's fun to play once you get the hang of it, even if the danmaku patterns aren't necessarily new or groundbreaking

[Anonymous No.]

>>40937332
I like it too.
I wish there was an endless mode.

[Anonymous No.]

How the hell am I supposed to play with Nitori's card? Even the most basic items have their price in the thousands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40940641
You can take the card which fills each market with more cards to give yourself a better chance at a good deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40892982
>false virus alerts.
how do you know it is not false?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40941381
Because steam is distributing it. Though it wouldn't be the first time someone's snuck a coin miner in a shovelware game, something as blatant as generic trojan warnings picked up by only a couple of noname vendors in an official touhou release distributed through steam is extremely likely to be bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40940641
It re-randomizes each time you buy something, so just buy whatever's cheapest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40941400
Different anon here. What you say makes perfect sense. However I downloaded both releases linked here >>40894337, turned out to be identical. See virustotal report, it's a bit more than a couple of noname vendors. Is that the same for you? Or have I been rused?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40942188
>32 hits
what the fuck
It only came up with 2 in the moriyashrine one for me the other day
The direct from steam dl comes up with 5 hits.

https://files.catbox.moe/guzbsr.7z
This is the uncracked exe from my steam folder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40942188
>>40942247
Look I'm not saying zun or steam is doing anything malicious
But you know sometimes people use a library or stuff from a repo that use to be legit but gets bad stuff added in an update
I'm just going to wait it out a bit and see if anyone notices weird activity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40942269
No I get it, if you trust a random anon you can grab my uncracked exe >>40942247 and run it through steamless https://github.com/atom0s/Steamless for a self-made solution.

I didn't think the doujinstyle upload was that fucked up though.

[Anonymous No.]

>my steam exe is now picking up 6 instead of 5 like it was on launch day
lmao, great job malwarebytes

[Anonymous No.]

Okay this is not the thread to ask this but I can't be bothered to open a new thread just for this.

So about TH17.5, is there something that I'm not getting about the gameplay or is it just that it fucking sucks? Am I supposed to be grazing all the time and attacking? How is that good gameplay? What am I not getting? Everything is so noisy all the time.

Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40942247
Got your steam uncracked, reported 6 positives like >>40942319

[Anonymous No.]

>>40943578
Processed it through Steamless 3.1.0.0, got this.
What the fuck is going on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40943585
Now i'm curious what steamless is doing to the file. Moriyashrine says they used v3.0.0.12

[Anonymous No.]

>>40943608
Just tried with Steamless 3.0.0.12, and got the same file as the moriyashrine one.
Either Steamless is injecting some malware in the packed file or a great chunk of antimalware vendors simply don't know what the fuck they are doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40912763
https://www.thpatch.net/wiki/Touhou_Patch_Center:Standalone_Patches
I have the same gripe with the auto-updater. Even had it get stuck on me and make the games unplayable in the past. But you can get around it.
Delete thcrap_update.dll in the thcrap folder for each standalone patch. I guess you could do the same for the universal thcrap launcher but I'm the type that prefers to just keep each game completely separate.
Is everything in 18.5 translated yet? If so, I don't know how to make a standalone patch for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40912763
>>40943644
The standalone versions, usually take a few days/week to get uploaded. I don't know how to make one myself either. We'll have to wait for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40943629
I'm not code-savvy enough to look through his repo for something like that, but given even the steam version is picking something up I wonder if its leftover from steamstub.
Only thing to really do is actually wait for a CD rip and compare it.

[Anonymous No.]

Still no HBM chart?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40944595
Whats that

[Anonymous No.]

Alright I'm missing only 3 cards now and don't feel like grinding for them anymore. Any suggestions for a Junko/boss only build?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40944825
Suika + Laser + Snakes

[Anonymous No.]

>>40944866
Thanks. This was actually incredibly effective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40897738
ZUN really trying to flex his drawing skills here lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>40947353
His wife drew the cards.

[Anonymous No.]

How long will it take until an English patch get released?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40929990
>2 years ago is nostalgia

[Anonymous No.]

>>40948070
It's almost done and has been in a good state for days.
Everything is translated and thcrap will put it in your game, but some lines are too long to fit. It's mostly just flavor text, so you can read what the cards do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40947353
The thumb is still fucking wrong. Do him and his wife even have hands? They can just look down for Christ's sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40948366
>WBaWC
>2 years ago
While you still have a point I have bad news about the passage of time

[Anonymous No.]

>>40948366
nta but I'm nostalgic for things that happened only a year ago, Touhou or not Touhou

[Anonymous No.]

So what's the incident this time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40950769
Nothing much really. Marisa just likes collecting things and accidentally helps Chimata bust the ability cards black market

[Anonymous No.]

>>40948518
I think anatomical accuracy is never their main aim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40950769
The kappas continue to monopolize the cards without Chimata's permission and Marisa is just in hoarding mood to butt in (and end up helping Chimata too). It's not really concerning for Gensokyo though I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

chimata

[Anonymous No.]

>>40957388
Chimata was honestly pretty cool in this game. I got too used to her being a dork.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40948534
MoF still feels like "the new game" to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>40958980
The first one you're around for the launch of is always "the new Touhou game", it hurts.
I knew of the series since UFO, but in terms of being active that game for me is LoLK

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a clear soundtrack rip, I don't want to download from youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>40964980
Scroll up.

[Anonymous No.]

are there any other doujin shmups from c100 worth trying

[Anonymous No.]

>>40965299
the games selection is pretty lackluster this event, theres a video pv in this thread >>40940438

Altynex looks alright, the rest are questionable at best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40965719
yeah thats the one I was looking forward to. is it likely to eventually be uploaded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40966094
I haven't found a single game upload that wasn't th18.5 yet, though I haven't exactly been looking too hard either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40947366
I wonder if his wife does draw, that'd make for an interesting half game.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally cleared it, it was pretty funny. That being said, bosses being random was a bit tedious, especially in stage 6.

[Anonymous No.]

I like teacup Reimu, it's fun in stages. Also the pc98 reference it gives.

[Anonymous No.]

boring

[Anonymous No.]

Oi.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you fight Tenshi? I've beaten the main story and the extra market, but I haven't encountered her ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41004148
She is just normal stage 5 boss. Its all down to luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41004148
Use Junko's card and then mash reset until the right boss appears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41004428
>>41005655
I did that a bunch of times but she hasn't appeared. Thanks though, I'll keep trying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41005687
Try Chidanta's card

[Anonymous No.]

>>41005953
>Chidanta

[Anonymous No.]

So is there no fun character bits in 18.5 or are they just hidden being some criteria I don't know about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>41007641
The antagonist being who she is is kind of funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41007641
some of the boss descriptions are kiiinda funny.

[Anonymous No.]

TH18 was utter dogshit in every single way, and you're a dipshit shiteater if you enjoy it in any capacity. There, I said it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41011551
You've got the wrong thread friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41011564
More like wrong board, /v/ is several clicks away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41011564
>>41012848
Go back >>>/v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>40892982
>Touhou 18.5 is out on steam
Is it good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>41018551
It's fun.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Teacup Marisa unlocked by getting every card?
The wiki says after beating Chimata with the Blank but nothing after Teacup Reimu

[Anonymous No.]

>>41031161
Use takanes card to force it to appear

[Anonymous No.]

>>41031161
I unlocked both teacups in ex stage using Takane card.

[Anonymous No.]

>there is a new game
completely missed this, I'll pirate it soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>40897738
indeed

[Anonymous No.]

>>40898493
>Like what is the gimmick?
ZUN take of BPoHC

[Anonymous No.]

>>41011551
>>41012848

[Anonymous No.]

Oi.

[EIRIN No.]

>>40898756
>Marisa
>In English

[Kaguya No.]

Anyonne catched the KKHTA reference? Or its only in UM?

[Anonymous No.]

yawn

[†Eilienen !!QEIAmWnR8w1 No.]

bless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41061542
There was none.
1BM has yukkuris though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40892982
Why does she have red eyes? Why is ZUN so inconsistent?

[Anonymous No.]

Touhou is shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>41084862
Don't question GOD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41084862
didnt reimu in th18 title screen also have red eyes? maybe it's a ZUN's convoluted way of telling us the character on title screens arent the real ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>41105796
Yeah but her eyes change color every game. Marisa's never have until now. (and in Th03)
A fun little fact is that Th18's title screen Reimu didn't have her sclera colored in. She must be sick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41118256
She's wearing colour contacts.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>40897612
I don't know how far you take 'earlier' to mean, but IMO the longest plateau of consistently great music in Touhou was from 10 through to 15, which is within what used to be called modern era Touhou and is certainly within the window of ZUN's perceived 'shift' in musical style. Speaking in terms of overall impressions rather than individual pieces, I would take any OST in that plateau over any of the traditionally defined 'classic era' (6-9) OSTs, and all but three of my top ten Touhou tracks are from 10 forward. LoLK was easily my favourite OST since MoF, which is my sentimental favourite Touhou game, and the stylistic shift into a more aggressive and electronic approach was the most notable innovation in ZUN's overall approach to OSTs for years (just compare 'Unforgettable, the Nostalgic Greenery' to almost any other Stage 1 theme, which tend to create an atmosphere of relatively mellow intrigue rather than intensity, or even the sense of grandeur in The Space Shrine Maiden Appears). It blends a more modern sensibility with a cosmic sense of scale that Touhou has touched before but never to that extent. The closest comparisons I can find are Trojan Green Asteroid and parts of UFO; just as I think of MoF's OST as the fullest expression of ZUN's 'folk-mystical' style, I consider LoLK's OST the pinnacle of ZUN's 'scientific-cosmic' style: colder, harder, and more abstract. The last few OSTs have been less outstanding compared to that (although UM was really great), but by no means do I think that they stand up badly or that it could ever be an insult to compare them to the classic era.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41139966
lolk was fine since it was space-themed but there was no reason for hsifs to sound the way it did