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Hey /jp/ if Gensokyo started shit and the JSDF went to war with them, would it be any different than the Holy Grail War? Is Gensokyo equipped the same way Fuyuki City was? better? worse?

>> No.408779

>>408774

UN will treat it as a civil war and ask both sides to come to a compromise.

>> No.408783

>>408779

US: Hey, uh, Japan? We're glad you guys finally got to put the JSDF to use and all, but you're losing to prepubescent girls in silly costumes.

Japan: You fools! Has Sailor Moon taught you nothing?! Those are the most dangerous people of all!

>> No.408785
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408785

>JSDF
>war

>> No.408788

/k/ copypasta? On my /jp/?!

>> No.408832
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408832

Yukari alone would probably take care of them

>> No.408834

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>> No.408840

>>408832

I highly doubt Yukari would manipulate her borders just to feed, clothe, and care for random people.

>> No.408842

>>408774
There are three scenarios: if the fighting is in Gensokyo, there is no way the military could win. If the fighting takes place outside of Gensokyo, much of the offensive power is lost from Gensokyo as most of the lesser youkai and the magic-users are powerless. Stronger youkai may even be affected, though probably not enough to still put up an overwhelming battle.

We also have the question of who will fight. Foremost, the Netherworld would be sealed-off, that is not a question but a given. The military would probably not go to war against the Human Village unless they took up arms against them specifically. Reimu would definitely fight but, as mentioned, she might be powerless outside of Gensokyo. As odd as it sounds, Remilia and SDM would probably comprise the bulk-force of a composed military if they don't recede - although Yukari is Yukari, Remilia is more respected amongst youkai of the Forest and we can't be sure that the fanon is right and all Touhoues know each other.

I think the real fight will happen like this: after an initial attempt at invasion, Reimu will clean all of their clocks and get Yukari to seal all entrances to the Great Hakurei Border entirely. The next move is then whether the military can discern some way of opening the Border again.

If they find a way to break the Border rather than merely open it, then Gensokyo is dead, unless the rumors about the last dragon-god inhabitting the Great Border is true.

>> No.408857

Cirno wins, because she is the strongest.

>> No.408855

>>408842
Gensokyo is a sealed area removed from Earth. If the border were to fail, the planet would probably just gain a few hundred square miles.

>> No.408870

>>408840

I'm sure Yukari would do anything to protect Gensokyo from external threats.

>> No.408875
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408875

Will a legendary ace be able to weave through the danmaku?

>> No.408898

>>408875

Hitbox is too big

>> No.408901

>>408875

Maybe on EASY MODO if he had VTOL capability. Otherwise, no.

>> No.408903

>>408855
That's a topic worth arguing. Gensokyo is closed space, yes, but the question is how it exists in terms of the physical world.

If it merely exists alongside the real world as a 1:1 ratio, then its spontaneous manifestation will have a good deal of material overlap with whatever it already there. We could see more than half of a major city littered with remnants of the Forest or Magic and the Youkai Mountains. If the elevations have changed due to human engineering, parts of gensokyo may try to appear underground or will fall a few meters; most likely no structures will survive.

It may be even worse if the poket space is "small" and the whole scope of Gensokyo will rapidly expand to fit its the real world dimensions: not only will the above situation possible occur, but the rapid expansion will tear things apart, ensuring that whatever could have survived by "just appearing" will die by moving too fast to stay together or crashing into something and being ripped by the force.

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408906

>>408875
put him in this and then he can do it

>> No.408912

VIVIT intervenes. War over.

>> No.408921

>>408906
OH SHI-

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408925

>>408903

I has made an science!

>> No.408932

>>408925
Brilliant.

>> No.408936

Is it mentioned anywhere that the space of Gensokyo is actually compressed into a small are in the real world?

>> No.408939

>>408925

Huh... Never thought about it that way. Seems plausible.

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408947

>>408912
Why just her?
Send in Hirano to.

>> No.408948

>>408925
That's highly likely.

>> No.408950

>>408936

Only that it's entirely removed from the real world. Sealed is the term they often use.

>> No.408971

>>408936
Nope. It was never discussed, not even by the fanon. That being said, though, closed space collapsing is never a good thing.

Then we also have severe problems that come with the loss of the Border such as the collapse of magic and many spiritual devices (disruption by the electromagnetic field generated by human power grids and electronic transmissions) and the destruction of a number of youkai (e.g., fairies will probably suffer the worst; it's a real toss up as to whether a tsukumogami such as Medicine will continue to function). We'd still be looking at some bleak problems.

AND THERE ARE WORSE PROBLEMS STILL. Even if peace is made between Gensokyo and the Japanese, the Lunar Capital will probably watch the situation with terrible trepidation. Their secret will surely leak-out one way or another and who knows what they might try to do to stop the "impure Earth" from truly discovering their existence on the dark side of the Moon. They may already have discovered how to bring down massive and powerful borders ...

>> No.408986

>>408903

Gensokyo would be raped of natural resources and be annexed to Japan.

>> No.408993

>>408774

Gensokyo wins either way

Two Situations:

Magic exists just fine outside of the border: Obviously Gensokyo wins easily

Magic doesn't exist outside of the border:

Then the majority of Gensokyo would be crippled. But it doesn't matter because Yukari alone would kill the JSDF anyway and there is strong evidence to support that she alone at least won't be affected by not being without the border

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408994

>>408906
oh hai I upgraded your vic viper

>> No.408996

>>408774

Gensokyo wins either way

Two Situations:

Magic exists just fine outside of the border: Obviously Gensokyo wins easily

Magic doesn't exist outside of the border:

Then the majority of Gensokyo would be crippled. But it doesn't matter because Yukari alone would kill the JSDF anyway and there is strong evidence to support that she alone at least won't be affected by not being within the border

>> No.408999

>>408993

There's also the SDM forces, that aren't native to Gensokyo and would still be at full strength. Reimu could use faith, Marisa could use her elemental reactor, so we have the big 3 player characters ready for action. Japan loses.

>> No.409002

Yukari would slaughter whoever started it and fix the barrier.

/fin

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>> No.409011

>>408994
JSDF sends in Jehuty and Anubis JSDF wins.
the end

>> No.409013

>>408999

Suika might not be a Gensokyo native either

Doesn't matter though. Too many high powered characters can survive outside the border so the Japs can't win

Why JSDF btw? They're not exactly the best fighting force in this world. Maybe we should ask this in /k/ or some shit

>> No.409032

>>409013
Gensokyo is in Japan. The real world military present in Japan is the JSDF. But Japan also has military agreements with the US, so there is definately the possibility of US involvement. Especially since America would be one to be especially in Gensokyo "technology."

>> No.409034

>>408906
If you put the legendary ace in the Vic Viper the universe will collapse from the awesome.

>> No.409035

>>409013
Gensokyo is in Japan. The real world military present in Japan is the JSDF. But Japan also has military agreements with the US, so there is definately the possibility of US involvement. Especially since America would be one to be especially interested in Gensokyo "technology."

>> No.409042

>>409013

This whole thread is based on appropriated /k/ copypasta.

>> No.409043

>>409032
Get ready for 6 years of botched attempts to introduce democracy to Gensokyo.

>> No.409053

TEH NEET would be sent as a diplomate and be killed, but because she can't die (Potion Haxx not regular magic) the JSDF would be afraid and try to bomb gensokyo into piecec with some nukes.

But suddenly: PORTALS

>> No.409056

>>409043

"Yeah... Actually, we don't need a government. If people has a problem, they shoot at each other until it's resolved.

...No, this is the first time we've heard of this America, why do you ask?"

>> No.409062

>>409053

There are no nuclear weapons on Japan. The closest they have is a fleet of nuclear attack submarines.

>> No.409072

>>409007
Shouldn't it technically be the other way around?

Because Gensokyo DID exist before the boarder, so it would be more like it would decompress and make the surrounding area contort.

What if we're looking at this all the wrong way to begin with, what if the land that comprises Gensokyo doesn't quite exist itself and is only a manifestation of the boarder? In that case, everyone in Gensokyo would just fall back into the real world in locations relative to where they were standing in Gensokyo.

Things that were flying would most definitely fall to the ground and break their necks, besides things with wings, maybe.

>> No.409083

>>409007
The effect would be like tectonic plates shifting. The land around would get torn apart, and earthquakes would be felt for hundreds of miles.

>> No.409089

What if GN particles can disrupt borders?

In before Celestial Being is called in to penetrate the Lunar Capital.

>> No.409099

>>409072
It's not an order. Both parts of the images are not related in cause-effect.

Left part is the idea of compression, right part is the idea of NOT compression.

Personally, I think that Gensokyo is not compressed at all. Gensokyo existed before and when the great border was created, Gensokyo was merely sealed off to outsiders and insiders. With the exception of yukari sneaking in certain parts of the whole border.

>> No.409100

It doesn't matter how Gensokyo exists in relation to the real world

If everyone just dies when the seal breaks then there's no point in this topic in the first place.

Since we know Yukari for one can venture into the outside world, and others have came from the outside world (and some very recently like the MoF retards), it's safe to assume that even if some irregularity would occur when the Border breaks down, they would have enough time to react

>> No.409102

>>409056
They do have the Law of Gensokyou though. As enforced by the Hakurei.

>> No.409110

>>409102

They do? Because I'm pretty sure there isn't

Unless this is a piece of info from SSiB, because I don't read that piece of shit

>> No.409118
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409118

VIVIT, Vic Viper, and Gensokyo team up and conquer the universe.

>> No.409120

>>409110
Raymoo is the law.

>> No.409124

>>409062
Actually, that explains something from GitS:2ndGIG that I never quite understood. Thanks.

I'm certain youkai dietary concerns would break more human rights laws than curious scientists and animal rights people could put together "ammunition" to protect them. The plus-side - they all look like cute human girls, so you lose a lot of rep..

>> No.409125

>>409110
Not canon, but then again, 99% of everything discussed isn't canon.

The Law of Gensokyou is basically the spell card system.

>> No.409126

>>409120

no she's not

try again

>> No.409129

>>409125

Which was partly designed to protect Reimu (canon). Yet retards will continue to think she's invincible just because of a Last Word card that she never uses

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409131

>>409100
>>(and some very recently like the MoF retards)

What? What have you got against the MoF characters?

>> No.409134

>>409129

The one that makes her completely invincible.

>> No.409139

>>409131

I'm sure I'll warm up to them a bit more when some interesting doujins actually get released

Until then, there's nothing to like about them

>> No.409144

>>409118VIVIT, Vic Viper, and Gensokyo team up and destroy the universe.

Fixt

>> No.409149

>>409134
How long can she sustain it? What good is a perfect defense if she doesn't have the fire power to put someone down?

The Spell Card system was designed so that the Shrine Maiden can be challenged without the fear of accidently killing her.

Fantasy Heaven = Full of flaws, Zun agreed

>> No.409156

>>409129
And they only want to protect her for fear of breaking the Hakurei barrier.

If the barrier is already down, who knows what the hell rules they'd follow?

Actually, they'd probably be too busy drinking tea at the shrine to kill each other. And would continue using the system, anyway, just so they can continue doing danmaku just for fun. It's only really new people that mess things up, anyway.

>> No.409158

>>409139
What about this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KtevyQWjHz0

>> No.409171

>>409158
seen it

>> No.409198

>>409171
And you still find nothing of value?

Wow, what a faggot.

>> No.409199

MoF brought us Zombie Reimu, it is BOSS.

>> No.409211

>>409198

OMG DISAGREEMENT? AMONG HUMAN BEINGS?

SOMEBODY CALL AYA FOR THE SCOOP

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409233

>>409211
Aya is too busy getting fucked by people who actually like Mountain of Faith's characters. You aren't invited.

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>>409144
The universe is only destroyed if they lose to the Daemon Sultan in the final stage.

>> No.409239

>>409233

Aya has been long dead

Enjoy your imagination

>> No.409271

>>409118
BULLETS EVERYWHERE COVERING THE UNIVERSE JESUS CHRIST

>> No.409310

>>409100
>MoF retards

I lol'd.

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