/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

How would you feel if Amakusa is really Battler?Just a little bit curious.

pic related, face that i would make

But i wouldn't put it past Ryukishi.

[Anonymous No.]

If you mean REAL Battler, I suppose I'd just say it was somewhat expected.

If you mean FAKE Battler (not dead), I'd punch something.

[Anonymous No.]

I think I would pretty much make that face too. But isn't the timeperiod he shows up in 12 years after the Rokkenjima incident? That would make him 30 if he were actually Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

This face.

Imoutocest is, after all, the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086842
how old is Amakusa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086828
If her stools are that compacted, use an enema.

[Kooh !9WUSc85B6o No.]

why does he have grey hair?
he's tanned as Battler though

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086849
enema you say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086856
Battler's red hair is fake
He's really Kyrie's son

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086856
depression and shitty life can turn hair grey?well that is how it always potrayed in fiction.

[Anonymous No.]

i can't find the latest of rifyu's works translated

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

>>4086856

Battler dyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086892
I think this is the latest one

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086897
and this

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086897
where can i see them? i need a link

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086911
his pixiv account but it was japanese and for the translated ones, i guess you have to lurk moar

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086914
I'm looking for the edited ones. thanks anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086897
Wouldn't the last panel make more sense if it was "Don't come inside!"?

[Anonymous No.]

I love Rifyu's Ange faces.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086923
No, because that would imply that she does not like the pleasure of being cummed inside.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086897
Ange's one of us.

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086943
No, she thinks you're a creepy virgin. Don't associate yourself with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086943
No she's not. She said she hates virgin boys in EP 6.

[Anonymous No.]

No way a girl as intense as Ange isn't a virgin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086828
which one Battler: ASUMU'S or THE OTHER WOMAN'S

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086949

Ange never said that. She says she hates gentlemanly guys like George because they're usually creepy virgins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086961
the Battler we all know and love.The only Battler we wished happiness for!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086971
then the answer will be SILENCE

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086964
Doesn't that still means she hates virgins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086976
She'd never hate her oniichan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086976
Not really. She's not saying all virgins are creepy, just ones like George.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086980
>implying Battler a virgin

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086981
She still wouldn't ever say "creepy virgin" if she was a virgin herself. She wouldn't say it if she'd only had it once or twice, either. She's taking cocks every day. She looks down on those who aren't getting it at least once every week and believes they are prone to being creepy and fat.

[Anonymous No.]

Battler is just a groper.
He wouldn't get any further that that because he's incompetent

[Anonymous No.]

Battler is just a groper.
He wouldn't get any further than that because he's incompetent

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086971
>Implying Battler wins in Ep6

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086986
Do you have some personal problems anon? It sounds like you do ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087020
Ange spotted

[Anonymous No.]

Kuro from Kodomo no Jikan.
She's a kindergartner and keeps calling her teacher a Virgin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087036
>She's a kindergartner
wat

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087039
Japan

[Anonymous No.]

Aaargh.There are too much hints about Amakusa being related to Battler.The engrish, the hihihi and that suspicious Okonogi's "Sumadera is not my enemy.you can do what you want" phone call in EP6.I truly did not want him to be Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087048
samefag here.i am still not sure if the phone call conversation is true or not but another anon said it is true.if someone can verify that then it would be very helpful.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do so many people find it strange that Amakusa is probably in his 30s?
I mean, just many armies has he joined during his life?

[Anonymous No.]

- Kyrie goes out of the conference room and heads for the second floor. She's obviously tired from the discussion. She encounters Jessica.
- She asks Jessicawhy she's here. She says she came to get a book from her room. She's nervous and evasive. She and Kyrie make small talk.
- Side scene with Jessica saying sorry to Kyrie. Zepar and Furfur say the roulette of fate has chosen Kyrie as her opponent. Unlike George who knew he needed to go against his mother, Jessica chose to get a random opponent.
- With Kyrie turning her back to her, Jessica ponders attacking her now but doesn't. Kyrie asks what's wrong.
- Jessica is evasive. She ends up asking about love. Kyrie asks if it's the sort of unrequited love. Jessica says she has some sort of love trial ahead of her. She says she's forced to fight for it.
- Kyrie asks if she meant a love triangle. Jessica obviously can't explain very well her problem. She says she needs to establish that emotional connection. Kyrie asks her how far she's willing to go to get that love.
- Kyrie says you've already lost if you decline to fight for it. Narrator says something about how victory in love cannot be attained if you don't communicate it and fight for it.
- Kyrie asks if Jessica has given up on that love, and says her life will be full of regret if she doesn't make up her mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087147
- Side scene to Ange, who says she didn't understand those things because she was six back then. She says she read her mothers diaries after she died, but didn't understand them. Featherine asks if they were about Kyrie's relationship with Rudolph. To her she thought back then that Kyrie and Rudolph were an ideal couple, and thus didn't understand why Battler chose to be apart.
- Kyrie recalls the stories of when Rudolph was a playboy who had girls in the palm of his hand. Rudolph was a womanizer who enjoyed the life. Apparently Kyrie attracted him with her intellect and wasn't just another girl in the harem.
- There is a lot of backstory on Rudolph about his university days too hard to translate. They became business partners at some point. Something about how from all the women he worked with, she was the best (?). She worked her way into his heart as other women watched.
- Back to Kyrie and Jessica, she's telling her the story of Rudolph's womanizing, how she was able to get close to him despite all the women throwing themselves at him by becoming his business partner. She worked her way slowly but surely into his heart by using her business and intellectual skills.
- She however at that time felt she was just a partner and couldn't "heal the hole in his heart" of sorts.
- She says he would eventually be taken by another woman. During those days he slept with a lot of women.
- Ange says that he got one pregnant at some point. She also got pregnant.
- Kyrie expresses her emotions about the other woman he got pregnant and how it ruined her plans. She says at that time she at least wanted to be recognized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087152
- She and the other woman would give birth on the same day, naturally hers wouldn't be recognized. The woman is Asumu. She refused to be defeated by Asumu.
- Featherine says however that Kyrie's child was delivered stillborn. Battler was born to Asumu. Ange says her mother's chance of being recognized was destroyed. Ange wondered why, despite being Asumu's child, Kyrie accepted Battler. Ange talks about her mothers diaries that described her feelings and intentions, especially the grudge she would develop against Asumu.
- Kyrie says she did have some regrets, but not anymore since Rudolph's hers now. She says that love requires two people who are willing to make it grow. She tells Jessica to remmeber that they will still need to work on their love to make it bear fruit. They have to nurture it and guard it.
- She says she was lucky because the hell she experienced ended after 18 years. Despite everything she went through, Rudolph is hers. She will not give him up.
- Kyrie goes so far as to say that enemies of Rudolph are her enemies too, and murder to keep them togther isn't out of the question, because it took 18 years to get her miracle.
- Jessica says Asumu's death was a miracle for Kyrie. Kyrie even suggests she would have killed Asumu if she had to, and this miracle prevented her from bloodying her own hands.
- Jessica is speechless at this story. She's also rationalizing her own trials to gain the love she wants, and how George did his by killing his own mother. As Kyrie advised, she needs to nurture the love she and Kanon share, even if it forces her to do very drastic things.
- Kyrie apologizes for taking her time. She says that given Jessica's apparent situation, a life fueled by jealousy and regret keeps one going as it did for her, for 18 years. There are also other women experiencing this now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087155
- Kyrie likens love to playing with fire. Everyone can do it, but the burns will leave scars behind. She apparently thought Jessica could take hearing this story because she notices the passion in her eyes.
- As she walks away after the story, she notices Jessica moving quick. Jessica's eyes are gray as she attacks Kyrie. She narrowly misses her head.
- Jessica (possessed) is surprised she didn't get her. Kyrie says she doesn't understand because she didn't live such a life. Kyrie had her guard up already noticing the change in Jessica's demeanor.
- Kyrie says she already knew Jessica was lying about coming to get a book. She had already assumed several things for Jessica's appearance, and this was one of them.
- Kyrie asks why she wants to kill her. Jessica says her story helped her make her decision. She attacks again.
- Kyrie evades as Jessica smashes a wall with tremendous force. Kyrie is impressed since she really is Krauss' daughter, who himself knows boxing.
- Jessica tells her not to resist. She attacks again and Kyrie barely evades, pushed back by the wind air pressure her attacks make.
- Jessica says her feelings are similar, for the future of the love she has is clouded. Kyrie is irate at her suggestion. Jessica's arms pulse red. Kyrie attacks but is repelled by the red barrier. Jessiva calls Ronove.
- Kyrie thinks she's dreaming or something (I'm not sure who actually thinks they're having a nightmare, I think it's Kyrie).
- Jessica slowly approaches Kyrie, walkign while the ground beneath her steams from the heat. Kyrie is freaking out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087161
- Kyrie likens love to playing with fire. Everyone can do it, but the burns will leave scars behind. She apparently thought Jessica could take hearing this story because she notices the passion in her eyes.
- As she walks away after the story, she notices Jessica moving quick. Jessica's eyes are gray as she attacks Kyrie. She narrowly misses her head.
- Jessica (possessed) is surprised she didn't get her. Kyrie says she doesn't understand because she didn't live such a life. Kyrie had her guard up already noticing the change in Jessica's demeanor.
- Kyrie says she already knew Jessica was lying about coming to get a book. She had already assumed several things for Jessica's appearance, and this was one of them.
- Kyrie asks why she wants to kill her. Jessica says her story helped her make her decision. She attacks again.
- Kyrie evades as Jessica smashes a wall with tremendous force. Kyrie is impressed since she really is Krauss' daughter, who himself knows boxing.
- Jessica tells her not to resist. She attacks again and Kyrie barely evades, pushed back by the wind air pressure her attacks make.
- Jessica says her feelings are similar, for the future of the love she has is clouded. Kyrie is irate at her suggestion. Jessica's arms pulse red. Kyrie attacks but is repelled by the red barrier. Jessiva calls Ronove.
- Kyrie thinks she's dreaming or something (I'm not sure who actually thinks they're having a nightmare, I think it's Kyrie).
- Jessica slowly approaches Kyrie, walkign while the ground beneath her steams from the heat. Kyrie is freaking out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087165
- Math time. 2x365=730. 730x24=17520. However due to Shannon's talk about her love, the value is reduced to an equation of 17520/[(7x3)/24]=312 jealousy points. In contrast, Kyrie has a total of 157680, which makes Jessica's value barely 0.2%, or about 2.5 kmph. Kyrie says Jessica's experience is nothing compared to hers.
- Kyrie says even with one finger Jessica cannot knock it down. Ronove appears by Jessica and says that by Beato's rules a human cannot commit murder successfully in a locked room. Only magic can break it, and only when Jessica understands it can she break the door.
- Kyrie says Jessica cannot keep this up for long because the other family members will start looking for her.
- Zepar and Furfur push her on. Kyrie says she can just use the internal phone line to call, and says this is her checkmate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087167
- However, Jessica seems to have undertsood that magic is the only way to kill through a true locked room, and manages to launch a hit through the door. She hits Kyrie, who slumps down dead.
- She mocks Kyrie, saying if she loves jealousy that much she can fester in it in death for eternity. Ronove congratulates her. He goes inside to check on the body.
- Jessica's eyes return to normal. She probably realized she was possessed by Zepar and Furfur.
- In their metaworld, George congratulates Jessica. Beato1 seems to feel sorry for this entire affair. Jessica cries, freaks out and apologizes to Kanon. George seems to have some issues with Jessica's performance but Shannon thinks she performed well.
- Beato2 agrees with Shannon and is fascinated with the locked room method of murder. Zepar and Furfur declare the inital trials done. They ask who could be next in line. Yes Beato1 is part of this too. Shannon, Kanon and Beato raise their hands simultaneously. It is just after 12:10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087171
>Shannon, Kanon and Beato raise their hands simultaneously

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087142
It's because people are used to the faggotry of "a 17 years old soldier with tons of war experience" JRPGs and some stories have fed them, with characters on their late twenties saying "I'm too old for this shit". So when someone is old enough to realistically have the experience to be badass, they call bullshit. Unless it's Snake or something.

However, in defense of that, it certainly doesn't help that the MILFs are canonically over 40-50 (middle 30s for Rosa) but due to the art in the VN, manga and anime looks 20 something. So tl;dr everyone's ages are fubared.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087217
the oldest is Eva is her late 40s, but has trained all her life, it's no wonder, Natsuhi has been living quite 'well' and Kyrie's family have good skin

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087190
Curiouser and Curiouser...

[Anonymous No.]

Wasn't it stated in red Battler died in 4th ep? Or at least confirmed in credits?
No "he discarded the name Battler" bullshit please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087305
B0MB

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087305
Bomb...or bomb that blew up the boiler that was set to explode. Same with the other games. Explains the horrible state of the bodies when police get there. No LOL! EATEN BY DEMONS!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087251
I thought Natsuhi was about 48-49?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087327
I think Natsuhi is a couple years younger than Eva who is in her early 50s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087305
But Amakusa is from the future of Ep3, not 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087327
Let's assume she was at least 18 when she married Krauss. They tried to conceive for 6 years, then had Jessica. Jessica is 18. So Natsuhi is at least 42. There's no indication of her age other than that. Eva is older than her though. That's said in the VN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087339
I doubt eva is in her 50s, hideyoshi is just older than her, 6-7 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087344
let's say she was 16, it's legal and usual

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087340
Oh, great, that ONE episode when we see Battler's death right from his eyes, looking at the murderer and all.
Oh and if Ryuukishi pulls "she shot, but she missed and realized she was wrong and they both lived wwwww", I hope B0MB will blow up HIS house.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087390
Yeah...about that...how'd Eva survive BOMB in EP3 anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087397
She was in Kuwadorian, Ange mentioned it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087397
Battler also survived the bomb if we take the "sun" allegory at face value. He didn't survive being shot in the chest according to the TIPS, but you never know...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087405
TIPS isn't really very reliable when it comes to character deaths anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087390
And I guess his death was stated at some point right? or was that scene narrated by him?
No it wasn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087344

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087405
What do you mean by "sun" allegory?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087423
Don't have the screenshot, but as soon as the game ends in EP3, there is a mention of a "small sun" going off in Rokkenjima that both Eva and Battler witness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087472
I think that's becaues she just finished denying witches and had expected the game to come to an end. But instead of Battler letting it end, he used it as an excuse to believe in magic, so the game kept going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087472
That line was directed at what occurred after Beatrice denied EVA's existence through narration. It doesn't have anything to do with the actual explosion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087487
Who knows, it's kind of a weird thing for the narrative to point out. Could be a bomb, could be just Eva tripping balls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087423
Go read the part in EP3 right after Beato negated Evatrice with the red truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4087340
Not really.EP3 don't really happen.Thats why Ange still alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4089560
EP4 too.It didn't really happen...right?In EP6, Ange able to meet Hachijou sensei before she went to Rokkenjima while it is different in EP4.Actually, i am confused about this part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4089613
>>4089560
You guys seem to be confused. As far as the meta-world goes, every ep happened. As for why Ange isn't dead: Featherine brought her to another kakera. That's why Ange has "flashbacks" to her death, like Keiichi.

[Anonymous No.]

Query, Jessica being "possesed", I've heard many different views on it. Is she straight up possessed or is she just encouraged?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4089770
Think it was her gaining a power-up of some kind, but I'm not quite sure...

[Anonymous No.]

COnfirmed in ep6 that Okonogi sent Amakusa to kill her together with Sumadera.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4089770
Possessed i guess.But in the end, Jessica
never kill Kyrie.

>>4089691
Oh ok.This whole Aurora being the author thing confuses and annoys me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4089839
lolno, the conversation Amakusa has with him is just Okonogi telling him that if he wants to kill Sumadera that's his choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4089860
can you post the screenshots?or the transcript?

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>4089877

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090001
thanks a lot.i don't know japanese anyway but i don't mind.

[Anonymous No.]

If you consider the tarot cards as hints, Jessitrice is kind of hinted at here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090065
That has absolutely nothing to do with Jessica..

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090076
it does, the other side of the moon, the front side reflects other's light and the back side is darkness

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090065
even if you give me lots of Jessitrice evidence, she would always be the character i have no interest with.i care more about Amakusa than her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090092
But what relation does that have with Jessica and Beatrice? That excerpt was just from Battler's recollections about what Asumu told him about bunnies on the moon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090065
yea but everyone said Kyrie was a confirmed culprit because of her tarot card

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090114

Basicly, the idea that Jessica's "The Moon" tarot card is a clue to her being culprit, because the card is directly associated with illusions and duplicity. Also the Moon in that picture was...oddly sad looking, in contrast with Jessica's expression

Hyperbole, but interesting nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090114
there are circumstantial proff, like with Shkanontrice:
-the part in the ep2 backstory abou other personalities
-that Evatrice didn't redtext that she didn't have other personalities and instead went to actions of her body
-that promise that still no one knows who was made to
-it's obvious fromm their recollections that Jessica liked battlerwhen she was a child and that's why she was so friendly for him, but she it was too much like k1 and mion, batler saw her more like a boy
>>4090144
and who says she isn't?

[Anonymous No.]

>it's obvious fromm their recollections that Jessica liked battlerwhen she was a child and that's why she was so friendly for him, but she it was too much like k1 and mion, batler saw her more like a boy


Interesting...Source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090167
He's upset because she's a fat ass and sitting on him. That poor poor moon ;_;

>>4090144
Actually culprit Kyrie was a popular idea even before the tarot card.

[Suigin !fKazami5bE No.]

Bernkastel is actually Satoshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090065
how is this Jessitrice proof?

1- Battler is the one speaking/narrating here.
2- He's talking about how Asumu read him a book about rabbits on the moon. When he told everyone they mocked him and he gave up on his belief of the bunnies because of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090180
>it's obvious fromm their recollections that Jessica liked battler when she was a child and that's why she was so friendly for him, but she it was too much like k1 and mion, batler saw her more like a boy

Just because someone likes someone doesn't mean they love them. She's his cousin, so of course Battler doesn't like her. Besides EP 6 pretty much cemented that she is in love with Kanon.

[Anonymous No.]

I wouldn't take the tarot cards seriously. For example, Battler doesn't represent the Justice card in any way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090180

Because it didn't do that with Shannon and George?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090244
There's enough obfuscation with Battler's birth, and even to a small extent Jessica's, to say they may not be blood related, the bullshit ShikixAkiha route.

I don't accept Jesstrice, but I wouldn't write it off. Especially when stupid fucking Shkannontrice hasn't been swept under the rug.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090260 poster here. That was directed at

>>4090244

[Anonymous No.]

If Amakusa is Battler, I wonder what kind of contrived explanation will R07 pull to explain why didn't contact Ange before, or reveal himself to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090276

>>implying that most things in Umineko won't make sense in context.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get it, why would Jessica create an alternate personality with her own personality? That sounds completely idiotic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090267
EP 6 pretty much confirms that Battler is Rudolf and Kyrie's son. The game clearly said that Kyrie had a stillborn and not a miscarriage, thus making baby switch completely possible. It is also stated in narration that Asumu was the only one Rudolf got pregnant besides Kyrie. No third woman bullshit or anything. If its anti-climatic than oh well, because it's been obvious that Kyrie is the mother since EP 4.

>>4090260
Shannon does love George. You think nobody moves on from their first crush or love?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090258
Meta Battler does, somewhat. It's Piece Battler who doesn't. All things considered, Piece Battler will probably be getting the Fool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090303

No, it's more that I'm saying that JessicaxKanon is no more evidence against Jessitrice than ShannonxGeorge is against Shanatrice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090293
Quite right.

...Not to mention the person who created Beatrice wasn't talking anything like how Jessica does, in that one monologue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090282
>implying even with context, it won't be ridiculous, like everything else that has happened as the story goes on

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090303
I was saying this shit all the way back in EP 4, why did no one believe me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090324
>Meta Battler does, somewhat.

He doesn't. He really doesn't match almost any of the descriptions of the card.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090334
The entire thing is that Jessitrice and Shannontrice suggest that they had some love for him and then transferred that into a new creation completely (Beatrice). Whole thing is that in EP 6 it makes it clear that Battler was talking to another person and describing that his type of girl would be someone close to Jessica's looks (blue eyes, blond hair) but not Jessica herself. He also mentioned Jessica in the third person, making it highly unlikely he was actually talking to Jessica.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090342
A lot of the people I talked to who accepted Kyrie as a possible biological mother for Battler seemed to think that would somehow be "too cliche" or something, even though having some random third person be the mother would be just plain stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090345
Meh, Dlanor would probably have been the best choice, but she doesn't show up until Chiru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090276
My hypothesis would be: Battler survived the tragedy but feels guilty for his role and set on a lone hobo journey.;_;

That doesn't really make sense, does it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090342
They were just losers who thought Kyrie being the mom would be too obvious or anti-climatic and dumb shit.

Seriously Rudolf is a pimp and all but three pregnancies at once. I think Kyrie would actually slaughter him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090374
Memory loss is always an easy way to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090379
Kyrie being his mom IS too obvious and cliché. I wouldn't know about it being anti-climactic since there weren't really any other choices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090390
Red haired guy who lacks common sense nearly dies, loses his memory, hair turns white, and becomes a badass, this situation sounds a little familiar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090401
Does it have to be anti-cliche and unpredictable for a theory like Kyrie is Battler's mom to be accepted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090390
Haha... I can see R07 pulling something like this.
I find it funny how people say R07 mocks clichés and whatnot, when his story is filled with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090401
Well I never thought the parentage was something of a big cliffhanger. We already knew from EP 3 that Kyrie was pregnant at the same time and was giving birth on the same day, so she was already the obvious answer. There's also the fact that Ange and Battler's hair are the same color, despite having supposedly different mothers.

I was always a bit more interested in how it all happened. EP 6 explained a bit more about it though. But now it doesn't look like I'm getting the Rudolf-Asumu-Kyrie arc I was wishing for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090416
I'm not talking about the theory, but about R07's writing. In the end, people can only work with the hints they are given.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, Moon-chan can just as easily be the culprit, so Kyrie isn't the ONLY option for the culprit.... but as for Battler's mother that's pretty fuck obvious, yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090409
Except Archer never lost his memories, and actually did die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090433
If there are Rudolf-Asumu-Kyrie arc, i hope it would be glorious.Yandere fights oh my god i can see it now!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090444
I wonder, wouldn't it be funny if Battler really WAS Natsuhi's child? That would be rather DAW, actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086827
We would highly appreciate it if you did not spam your shitty clones all over www.ànoñtálk.com. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090461
daaawww

except he kills her in EP 6

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090466
That never happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4086824
We would highly appreciate it if you did not spam your shitty clones all over www.ànoñtálk.com. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090466
Well, he's the GM, he's just doing his job. Piece Battler wouldn't do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090488
And technically, she was only pretending to be dead. Until Erika chopped off her head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090495
That game is DAW, but it's also kinda sad when you realize that Battler is dealing with a den of wolves, not a den of shiny happy people out to prank a detective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090461
Natsuhi's child is confirmed dead, right?Even if he is still alive, the chances of that child to be a culprit is pretty low unless Battler is indeed Natsuhi's child which would be impossible because he is Kyrie's child who was taken care of by Asumu, Rudolf's official wife!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4090501
Wasn't that sort of what happened in Episode 5 as well, though? At least, until somebody went around killing people for real.

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Rule number one to surviving in any of R07's novels. Kill. Every. Female.
Really, do it. They're must likely behind everything, anyways.

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>>4090531
Indeed, the guys are always just lackeys, bystanders, or the protagonist.

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>>4090531
That's not tru-
Wait, actually, fuck, you're right.

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>>4090561
>Protagonist
Tell K1 that!

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>>4090531
then it wouldn't be fun, without Shion and Mion having her period, Watanagashi-hen wouldn't have been possible

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>>4090530
i think in Episode 5, the adults except Natsuhi and Krauss team up to fake the cousins death to corner Natsuhi but in the end the cousins really was murdered which is weird as hell...

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>>4090590
>They're must likely behind everything, anyways.
K1 is just a guy who easily goes apeshit, if Takano wasn't such a cunt, this wouldn't happen.

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>>4090517
I wonder why that exchange ever occurred in the first place. What would Asumu gain by giving her baby up for adoption (or making a deal with Kinzo/Rudolf) to the Natsuhi and Krauss?

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>>4090466
No, Beato does.

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>>4090608
And why wouldn't she use Kyrie's baby for that instead?

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>>4090602
The weird thing was how Genji was in on it too.

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>>4090608
I think Asumu and Kyrie never know about the exchange.

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>>4090608
>>4090618
Don't worry, R07 will explain all of these things.

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>>4090628
Kyrie has DID. Asumu is the personality she used to get closer to Rudolf, which is why they both had the near impossible coincidence of giving birth on the same day.

I'm so clever, right guys?

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>>4090651
Oh lawd, I love sum Xzibit theory.

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>>4090651
I wouldn't put it past you

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>>4090651
Real DID or Magical DID™.

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>>4090608
Giving Asumu's baby to an oblivious Natsuhi and Krauss (through a deal made with Kinzo) would give Rudolf a blackmail opportunity later. After all, the family heir would be his child.

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>>4090677
whats the difference?

What make an intelligent person like Kyrie loves Rudolf so much?Is it because Rudolf offers escapes from the rigid Sumadera family?

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Stop with the DID thing, heck, the only time it was foreshadowed was in episode two, and that was with Jessica talking to Kanon in the flashback.....

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>>4090694
>What make an intelligent person like Kyrie loves Rudolf so much?

No matter how intelligent she may be, she's still a woman.

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>>4090705
It was also mentioned in EP3.
Nanjo's murder, remember?

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>>4090694
Rudolf has a high charisma score. He rolled a natural 20 on diplomacy with her. Her intelligence score can't do shit.

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>>4090705
Oh, who mentioned it?

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>>4090628
>Don't worry, R07 will explain all of these things.
Oh you, you make me smile with your child like naïvety.

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>>4090694
>whats the difference?

You can read about real DID on your own, just google it.

As for Magical DID, it's basically what we've seen Ange and Maria do - i.e. give "life" to stakes, dolls, etc... The difference here is that the person in question (i.e. the original personality), did that with himself/herself. This way a new personality is created, and thus Magical DID.

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But is that disorder really so convenient? iirc, Shannon played cards with George, Jessica, Maria and Battler. Kanon could have shown up instead.

What triggers this change in personalities? Maria's case is different. Once someone brings up a topic regarding witchcraft, she turns into a totally different person in Battler's eyes.

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>>4090722
Battler in EP4 i think

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>>4090651

If this really happens then i'm writing a paper on how society is extremely fucked up and only mentally ill people get money truckloads of money.

My source? This fucking VN

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>>4090774
With Shkanontrice, or Shkanon, I'd say Moon-chan is doing something there. But then again, that's assuming that Shannon IS indeed Kanon.

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if Asumu is really Kyrie then i would shit brix because that means it is possible for Shkannon to be Natsuhi's child who fell from a cliff.

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>>4090788
They aren't the same, Battler left because Asumu died.

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Just realized how much of a playa Rudolf is. Fuck one in the morning, the other in the evening, hate the game bitches.

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>>4090825
sure he did.because he didn't know Kyrie is his actual mom.also what i said in >>4090788
is stupid so disregard that.

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