/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Accelaretor Can kill Yukari, discuss

[Anonymous No.]

Someone describe this guy to me.
Personal reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080104
He is not a lolicon, just fell in love with a loli.

[【 五角場 ～ 之 ～ 無名氏 】 No.]

If yukari changes her appearance to a 9 or 10 year old, his acceleration will come to a full stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080104
Accelerator has complete control over vectors. The ones in physics.

[Anonymous No.]

No he can't, wormholes under your feet don't have any vectors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080110

[【 五角場 ～ 之 ～ 無名氏 】 No.]

>>4080121
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't mind me, just passing by.

The Flash can beat Accelerator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080121
This reminds me of those Cirno doujins with the incredibly Japanese puns in them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080152
What can't Barry do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080215
There ar lots of stuff he can't do, it doesn't stop him from being one of the "strongest" characters in all of the DCuniverse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080215

The Flash used at his MAXIMUM POWER is the strongest being in the universe. Also, apparently, he is so fast he can travel through 4chan boards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080230
>The Flash used at his MAXIMUM POWER is the strongest being in the universe.
Demonbane called, he wants to talk to you outside.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080097
I never really got /a/ and Accelerator.
Do they seriously think that he is some Over powered unbeatable guy?
Both, /jp/ and /co/ and even /tv/ have tons characters that could take him down, not even /a/ seems to realise that even they have lots of characters that can beat him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080097
You're lucky I don't have enough time to educate you. Didn't you get enough rebuttals from the last time we had one of these circlejerks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080237
I like Bane better

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080237

Everytime I´ve seen the Flash in /jp/, that guy is mentioned as his rival. What does he do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080152
Didn't we decide that Accelerator is basically the only person that actually -could- beat the Flash?
Pic related, it's the MOTHERFUCKING FLASH.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080240
he's just a meme, everyone knows and he admitted it that a nuke could kill him, not because of the impact, but because of the subsequent lack of oixygen. But either way it's fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080248

The Flash has only gotten more and more powerful. Also, now that people know Barry Allen IS the Speed Force, he can call any speedster for help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080240
Hell, they don't even realize that in latter novels he gains more hax.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080253
Inb4 Shiki and most Servants can kill him.

[Anonymous No.]

They are all weaklings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080261
Implying others can't kill him anyway.

The "To Aru" verse is fun and I like it and the novels very much so. But the "Powerlevels" aren't that top as many seems to have the impression of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080246
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3886083#p3886601

[Anonymous No.]

Cthulhu can kill Accelerator!
Lovecraft Shounen?
Having strong/dangeruous characters/creatures doesn't automatically make something shounen

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080261
The actual core ability does not change, rather the efficiency, since calculations etc are now done perfectly on their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080283

He does sound very powerful. More like a JLA ultimate baddie.

[Anonymous No.]

yeah sasuke is sooooo cool ^^

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080253
Why is he even a meme then?
I can't find him to be that special as a "fighting character".

I do rather lke him as a character however, but "powerlevels" are really stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do f/a/gs have such a hardon for this guy? Never watched Index here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080321
Cause they think that his powerlevel is over 900 and that he surely can kill Servants, Shiki, Demonbane, Flash, Alucard and Lovecraftian monsters and Supersaiyans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080097
What show is that from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080321
Cause he hangs around with a loli.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080533
Does that mean that Demonbane beats him even in that aspect? Al > Misaka, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

sup fags.

[Anonymous No.]

I think a better statement would be that Yukari could not wormhole Accelerator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080566
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080574

Bullshit vector redirection to the 10th or 11th dimension.

[Anonymous No.]

Accelerator said this in the anime: "Well I guess the one who said I can deflect nukes was wrong."

Yukari has nukes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080583

Boundary of 10th and 11th dimensions.

Shpdoinkle, they're now one with Dimensions 1/2/3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080585

I don't remember that in the anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080243
The font is shitty, Brb retyping the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080583
Vectors don't work that way, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

Accelaretor is not even /a/s strongest.

[Anonymous No.]

Realistically, Sakuya can kill everyone if there weren't spellcard rules.

Stop time, slice everyone to pieces, resume time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080586

Good enough for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080588
Because he didn't. The actual line was something along the lines of even if they tried to use nukes on him he could deflect it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080585
>>Yukari has nukes.
Yukari vs Yuka is non canon you twit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080594
Anti spiral isn't /a/ strongest. That'd be Kami-omnipotent-harem-lead-tenchi

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080608
But her ability is. So?

[Anonymous No.]

Battler can deny Accelaretors powers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080647
Are you a moron? I'm talking about her pulling nukes out and that's not part of her power set.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080663
She can create gaps and steal from the americans.

[Anonymous No.]

Yamame manipulates diseases. Accelerator dies to a Stage 1 boss.

Yuyuko kills just by looking at Accelerator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080669
He can deflect death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080663
She can wormhole anything to whatever dimension she currently is, including nukes. She can also make anything out of thin air, including nukes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080669
Yuyuko never uses her ability. She'd rather consume the poor guy and ask for more.

[Anonymous No.]

Accelerator can play around with excited particles and latent energy on a subatomic level.

The name vector is used because if it has energy, most likely it has motion, and he can modify it as he wants. The only thing that he can't do is modifying something in an "stable state". He can go as small as electrons and bits, but he can't fission water.

He can however, deflect most things, such that if you touch him, suddenly your blood flows the wrong way, along with your body.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080595

So can Kaguya. Manipulation of the Instantaneous allows for travel in the femtosecond range. For context, a femtosecond is to a second, what a second is to about 31.7 million years.

Also, being cut to bits doesn't kill Kaguya, Mokou, or the vast majority of Youkai. She'd have to cut them up and separate all the pieces, and that still wouldn't work for Kaguya and Mokou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080667
>Assuming she know where Americans keep their stock pile of nuclear weapons.

[Anonymous No.]

thread over.

[Anonymous No.]

wtf is this? Some kind of faggot asian Flash?


Flash is shit

I don't think I can think of a single Touhou that COULDN'T kill this guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080595
In all scenarios of IN Kaguya shatters the time stop the heroes used to make the night eternal. That includes Sakuya's time stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080683
Blowjobs by Kaguya must feel good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080692
>trolling Flash

[Anonymous No.]

You know, the reason I hated superhero comics was because they devolved into pseudo-physics powerlevels where anyone could do anything because oh look, i can manipulate ____ on the SUBATOMIC LEVEL OMG.

Railgun is full of this bullshit in addition to being an extremely generic shounen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080684
She had millenia to find them, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080696

>Blowjobs by Kaguya must destroy your penis at the atomic level.

Fixed

[Anonymous No.]

>Reimu can stand over everything on a subatomic level

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080699
Who's trolling? Flash is lame.

Green Lantern, fucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080615
Tenchi, Lord of Nightmares and Voyager class witches are the most overpowered beings ever created. With Q, GER, Nagato, GL and Dark Schneider following (far) after them. Then the likes of Shiki, Guu and Flash. After that strongest DBZ characters. Then Nagi, Rakkan, Reinforce I and Nanoha. Then Accelerator.

This guy is far from the strongest. Very far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080694
The half-done everlasting night that you have made...

With my art for manipulating the eternal, I'll tear it all away.

The dawn shall come immediately.

How's that?
With this, your Imperishable Night will be broken!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080684
>Border of Knowledge and Ignorance

[Anonymous No.]

>Tewi is cute on the subatomic level

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080733
>Tewi is immortal on the subatomic level

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080720
>Guu
You mean this guu?

[Anonymous No.]

The strangest special ability

[Anonymous No.]

Have I missed something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080737
I always envisions Tewi's immortality to be her lucky on the sub atomic level with the probability of her dying always being 0.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080737
Tewi is a slut.

[Anonymous No.]

Accelerator can beat anyone. Yukari is small time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080744

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080742
No you didn't, bro.
>>4080237

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080750
I can't believe someone else thought of it.

[Anonymous No.]

But Keine can erase anything she wants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080756
I have nothing better to do with my time

[Anonymous No.]

But doesn't that mean you can kill Tewi by placing her in a situation where it would be unfortunate to remain living?

inb4 torture guro

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080763
You missed the "always" bit.

It would suck for her, though

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080757
Funny thing is that Yukari can see erased history
KEINE
"Humans never settled here in the first place."

All I did was make it look that way.

I'll protect the humans from this ill-omened night.

YUKARI
Hey, you know.

I do see the humans as usual though.

This little trick of yours isn't useful at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080763
No, because you won't be able to do this in the first place. Her luck will break the chain of events before that point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080763
She's lucky so she'll escape or you'll never catch her

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080739
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

Summoned when the Martians turn their planet into a massive magic circle to summon Master Therion and Edgar rewrites it to summon Demonbane.
-500 metres tall, can grow bigger (10000 times to at least 5000 km once, and even bigger until the universe it was in collapsed once)
-Can fire homing lasers that reach Earth from Mars in a moment and home in on and destroy millions of targets.
-Armour can withstand hits from 5000 km Liber Regis while only 500 metres tall (5000 km Liber Regis/Demonbane destroy small planets by bumping into them)
-Atlantis Strike: More than enough to destroy planets (at 500 m size, can penetrate the Liber Regis' armour)
-Barzai's scimitar, can cut through the Liber Regis
-Superpowered version of the rifle that vapourized London, blew Liber Regis in half
-Lemuria Impact, vapourized most of Liber Regis' body (leaving behind only the limbs)
-De Maligny's clock, time control (turning time back for an entire planet, turning back time in the future so that even if an attack blows away the cockpit it's regenerated instantly)
-Can control quantum
-Regular weapons can cause a universe to collapse
-Can survive the collapse of a universe utterly unharmed (not just jump to a new one, survive the collapse itself)
-Can of course hop through universes
-Can operate in universes with different laws of physics, or where time flows differently

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080773
Someone besides me watched Hare+Guu

High five.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080774
Why is this thing so lame in the anime.
No universe breaking fun...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080772
But luck is the manipulation of probability, right? Can she manipulate absolutely impossible or absolutely certain events?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080784
The only certain thing in the universe is its end. If it's going to happen, that is. Until that point - nothing's impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080774
Sounds like this thing is around GER's level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080790

So when is the universe decided as having 'ended'? When all matter is gone?

Because... that's not quite happening.

Also, Touhou has creator gods and stuff. They can keep making the universe(s) over and over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080720
>GL
>following (far) after them.
Gurren Laggan isn't that weak. Also, Getter robo. I would honestly put them on pair with the trio.
Gurren's only limit is pilot spiral power and it's quite capable of destroying his universe. It can grow bigger, but there were no need, because anit-spirals limited themselves with galaxy sized robot. Anything bigger would destroy universe and they were kinda trying to protect it after all.
And well, Getter Robot is pretty much power of entropy itself. At some point it will be big enough to crush its own universe. And then it will grow bigger. Currently it's galaxy sized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080804

It's not that the second tier is weak, but the first tier is BALLS powerful.

Lambdadelta says with but a thought she can create or destroy entire universes. Since she's a Voyager and not a Creator, we probably need to take that with a grain of salt, but the create part can probably mean that she can perfectly pick a universe you want instantly out of the infinite sea of kakera.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080804
>because anit-spirals limited themselves with galaxy sized robot.

watch lagann-hen
Fuckers grow almost universe sized.
Also SUPER MOTHERFUCKING TTGL looks like Kamina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080811
That never happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080811
She can create it.
She is almost DURR HURR omnipotent. She just ins`t because she stopped her growth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080804
In terms of pure destructive power they could probably match the grand trio, but they couldn't match their crazy hax powers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080818

Lambdadelta's diary happened. It's an extra TIPS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080804
>entropy
Wait, no, my bad. It was power of evolution. He keeps evolving until it destroys everything. Just like GL and Spiral energy, just a bit less controlled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080818
EP6 stated Meta world events happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080803
>So when is the universe decided as having 'ended'?

When it stops changing its state. Geez.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080846

But that's impossible with the existence of Kaguya and Mokou and inertia.

[Anonymous No.]

Gurren-Lagann piloted by Lambdadelta and Bernkastel vs Demonbane piloted by Nyarlathotep

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080817
>Fuckers grow almost universe sized.
Even better
>>4080811
>>4080828
I just don't see how something that something capable of destroying the universe is weaker than the Creator of it. They just work in a different ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080855
Someone drawfag this!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080855
And then Kenshiro teams up with Guts and kills them all!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080858

Because something that can destroy but cannot create does not stand on the same level.

Contrast something that can create and destroy at will, which is a level we can only call God.

>>4080855

Lambdadelta and Bernkastel allied = instant victory.
Absolute Certainty is applied. A Miracle will not occur. You're fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080855
Berns power already works like a spiral warriors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080855
Bern should pilot Getter. It fits her better, really.
Makes for a more interesting fight too.

[Anonymous No.]

How come no one mentions Satori? She was able to replicate the spells of gensokyo's finest by reading their minds. Fuck.

Imagine having all your strongest attacks read and thrown back at you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080885
That worked only because danmaku is nothing but colored lights.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080885

Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hno.

That was a danmaku duplication. She can't duplicate ANYTHING.
She's just a psychic and you were playing a pattern game.

[Anonymous No.]

Q: WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK WE ARE?

A: Trolls in a shiny robot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080889
You sound like you're taking a powerlevel discussion seriously and are starting to get annoyed. Well, are you frustrated?

[Anonymous No.]

So Tenchi is the only guy in SS-Omnipotent-SuperCrazyBroken tier? And some fags say that anime is sexist...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080888
>That worked only because danmaku is nothing but colored lights.

Reuiji's sun danmaku would like a word with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080894
Seems like Lambda is small-time, Bern and Super Hanyuu are the true trolls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080897

Actually I was merely baffled as to how you came to the conclusion Satori operates as a mimic rather than a mime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080910
34 is Bern tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080913

Well aren't I redundant.
>mimic rather than a psychic.

[Anonymous No.]

The only reason someone would say Yukari could beat Accelerator is if they were retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080868
>Because something that can destroy but cannot create does not stand on the same level.
>Contrast something that can create and destroy at will, which is a level we can only call God.
Well, both Getter rays and Spiral powers are primal energies. Creating matter/energy from nothing is something that can be done with them quite easily, that's pretty godlike.
It's just the form they take in their series and the way they are used are destruction related.
They probably carry destruction potential than God.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080915
Lamda, at the very least, isn't TOTALLY evil.
Bern and Hanyuu, on the other hand....

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080925
What? Hanyuu EX is evil too?

[Anonymous No.]

Hikaru can kill regular Demonbane.
Discuss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080921

I'd imagine it's possible for Gurren Lagann to REACH the levels of God at its maximum. However, it never does so in the context of the story. Contrast Lambdadelta who is sitting at that position before the beginning of Higurashi.

[Anonymous No.]

Lambda is worse than Bern, she's doing it out of love, which makes her a shit-ton more dangerous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080921
But can they create whole universe? I doubt it.

Lambda can. At the snap of fingers.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is there no super overpowered Demonbane in the anime?
I think you guys are trolling.

[Anonymous No.]

Flash can defeat Green Lantern easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080934
Yes. She is. The end of Episode 6 has Bern and Hanyuu eating human entrails while they ahaha.wav about how they "monsters" work much differently than witches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080956
awesome!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080938
Lambda would cause Bern to be more human, or at least not a monster. Lambda is chaotic neutral incarnate, she isn't biased towards anyone simply because of silly things like "morallity". Bern, on the other hand, is ALWAYS EVIL.

[Anonymous No.]

You know what really piss me off? Why nobody ever made an anime with SS tier beings fighting each other. Imagine fights between characters like Bern and Tenchi. It would be on a completly different level compared even to GL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080985

Because it would be ridiculously hard to comprehend, much less render.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080985
Dude, LON-Mode Lina versus Haruhi.
FUCKING FUND IT!

[Anonymous No.]

All kidding aside, how does one defeat Gurren Lagann?

Let's review:

-1). It's at least 20 times bigger than a galaxy (e.g., it was jumping on galaxies in the final episode). And according to Gainax, its massive size in the Spiral zone is interchangeable with its size in our dimension.
-2). It has the ability to attack the past, present, and future.
-3). It's capable of manipulating probability.
-4). It's able to move several times faster than the speed of light. As observed in the later episodes when it warped half way across the galaxy.
-5). It's able to counter/withstand bigbangs (as observed in the final episode).
-6). It's full potential is undetermined because its power keeps multiplying/growing. We wont know its full potential until Simon becomes the 'Spiral Nemesis' that the anti-spirals feared. It is said that the universe will end once Simon gains that power.
-7). This last one is the most important. TTGL's main hax is the ability to break through (or overcome) anything you throw at it. Be it fantasy, laws of physics, or fate/destiny, Simon will overcome it. A good phrase to sum up Simon's spiral power is: "the ability to break through limits."

Spiral power is much more powerful than we give it credit for. Lord Genome (a person that has much less spiral potential than Simon had the ability to make Viral immortal. And in the final episode, Simon 'chose' not to bring someone back to life because of morals. Unlike Demonbane, there doesn't seem to be any limits to its 'hax' growth. But even if there was, Simon would just find a way to break it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080946
Honestly, they are only limited by writers. GL could possibly do that, if the pilot will shit enough spiral energy.
Getter probably wont ever create anything, since his is kinda self sufficient and combat oriented.
>>4080948
For the same reason Turn A wasn't a super gundam in his show. Not really the point of the story, needs big budget and hard to anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081005
Simple: Be God. Not ''a" god. THE GOD. Spiral Power means shit compared to controlling everything and anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081005
Any of the grand trio would just wish it out of existence along with it's universe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081026
Spiral energy is God. Less sentient than Lord of Nightmares, but that's about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081005
Gurren Lagann is a galactic threat with durability of a universe. Anybody who can warp things on multiversal level can kill it. This is fiction there's always someone at the top of the food chain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081052

If you want the very top, then it has to be the multiverse ITSELF.

Yog-Sothoth. Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent in every universe ever.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow. A powerlevels thread without kids arguing about Goku vs Superman vs Flash vs Touma. Is Witch of Miracles browsing /jp/ right now or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080774
2ch has a top mecha list, and there are a couple ranked higher than Demonbane... Anyone know who they are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081067

Pff, /jp/ is above that. /jp/ powerlevel threads are strong until somebody mentions ORT.

...

...

... Well, time to head out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081043
Just like Gods are capable to wish it out of existence, GL/Spiral energy user is quite capable to keep himself existent with a power of will. That's what they are all about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081052
>Gurren Lagann is a galactic threat with durability of a universe. Anybody who can warp things on multiversal level can kill it. This is fiction there's always someone at the top of the food chain.
Are you implying it doesn't have hyper-dimensional power? Because I do recall GL attacking the past, present, and future in one episode. The ability to attack the past means it has a way to manipulate dimensions as high as the 6th. What would stop Simon from sending a giant drill up the Flash's grandmother's vagoo?

Even attacks that manipulated probability couldn't stop Simon. The final battle against the anti-spirals was supposed to be a fated defeat for GL, because they reduced their powerlevels to be identical to GL's. The chances of 1 defeating 1 was zero, but Simon managed to overcome fate by defeating them.

Even if GL was fighting against a God, he'd probably would find a way to beat it some how.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081059
Sounds like a Voyager class witch to me.

"Imagines a Lovercraftian monster wearing pink frilly dress and silly hat"...

[Anonymous No.]

Megas has a "Defeat Accelerator" button.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081087

Yog-Sothoth is omniscient, though. Lambdadelta isn't.

Additionally, though Yog-Sothoth is a Lovecraftian 'monster', all it looks like is a bunch of shining soap bubbles.

...

... With a universe in each bubble, natch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081092
>With a universe in each bubble
I just imagined Getter growing big enough in one of those bubble to break. And then Yog-Sothoth cares about him and cuddle him like it's his child.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081051
Oh LON. I never really got if Lina was actually the Lord of Nightmares or just really, really, really lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

IT MATTERS NOT WHO YOU ARE

DEATH AWAITS YOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081111
It's simple. LoN loev Chaos. And Lina is a veritable vortex of Chaos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081086
If you can create a universe you an most likely play with probability on a universal scale. If you can create a set of universes then you're probably probability warping on a multiversal level.

While attacking the past present and future is really hax, that would mean nothing too gods who exist outside of time or EVERY FUCKING POINT in time.

For example, TTGL won't be able to hurt reimu if she uses fantasy heaven. 1) She's above time and space and reality (all the dimensions) 2) She's above reality warping or probability warping. There's no reality or probability in no unreality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081084
Your mind is simply to narrow if you think omnipotent beings are simply that dimensional and limited.

There is also things like scale of magnitude and ranking to even take into account.

It's childish to think an omnipotent being cannot overpowered or directly bypass lesser beings with immortality and other various powers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081005
Nono can teleport inside the cockpit and shoot Simon with a laser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081121
>It's childish to think an omnipotent being cannot overpowered or directly bypass lesser beings with immortality and other various powers.
In b4 Immortality vs Omnipotence discussion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081092
>With a universe in each bubble, natch.
The author of said being probably had a perverted understanding of the string theory or multiverses in general. If hyper dimensions or multiverse exist, they're not going to be separate spheres of space. Instead they will be continuous blobs of dimensions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081111
Lina rolled a natural 20 on her deus ex machina check. Good thing Gourry has mad diplomacy skills, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081071
The same list that gets reposted on /m/? I sure could use it because I miss it every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081121
You cannot over power an omnipotent. If you could then that omnipotent being was never omnipotent to begin with, but close enough to deceive you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081132

Yog-Sothoth is not a MODEL of the multiverse. Yog-Sothoth is a SENTIENCE of the multiverse.

Humans can't comprehend what Yog-Sothoth looks like in the first place. The soapy bubbles are an avatar at best, and even looking at those will drive you fuckballs insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081117
Oh, Nyx. The arcana is the means by which all is revealed, indeed...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081119
>For example, TTGL won't be able to hurt reimu if she uses fantasy heaven.
In the second to last episode of Gurren Lagann the anti-spirals trapped Simon's mind in an 'unreality'. Yet that didn't stop Simon's spiral hax from breaking through it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081092
But he don't have 100% control over all universes. He's not really all-powerfull. He may know all but that won't help much in a battle against other omnipotent beings.

He's a top tier material nevertheless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081164

That was a spiral dimension.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081164
That was a mind labyrinth not unreality...

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>TTGL won't be able to

You lost me

[Anonymous No.]

You know what would be a good defense, something that is really small. Something so small that it would make a photon seem large in comparison.

[☢ Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ☢ King of Gensokyo !9996999696 No.]

Accelerator is not strong enough to stop nuclear energy

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081005
Just make Simon lose his motivation somehow. Like in the earlier episodes, before the time skip. When he was all bummed about Kamina dying. If you had some way of doing that, you could, in theory, take the gasoline out of his soul's engine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081266
Anti-Spirals fake universe would have been enough.
He could have killed them all while they where trapped.
He just is too nice.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't beat someone that is immortal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081337
This girl once said the same. Now she is dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081337
But you can keep executing them for an eternity - like the Lunarians planned on doing to her for her treason. Hence the reason why she escaped. And on top of that, Kaguya has no defense against things like seals. So if Yukari was to fight her all she would have to do is seal her up somewhere for an eternity. (An aeon of "fuck you Yukari!") And don't give me that eternity crap. In ZUN's own words "there's no defense against or weakness to Yukari's boundary powers."

But speaking of immortality, the spiral power doesn't obey the conservation of mass laws, plus it's an infinite source of energy. Hence the reason why Simon is able to regenerate mecha parts out of thin air. Viral's wounds healed instantly simply because someone with spiral power gave him a body that was immortal. TTGL is immortal as long as Simon doesn't lose his motivation.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Wow, a lot of /a/ friends really have stuck around due to Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081470

>In ZUN's own words "there's no defense against or weakness to Yukari's boundary powers."

But equally, the Hourai Elixir removes the *concept of death*. It is much like the inverse of Shiki's power and *nothing* can revert it.

Also, I would suspect the immortal have ways around those sorts of risks. For example, if trapped, Mokou could probably use magic to vaporize herself to escape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081499
Good seals neutralize ones magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081497
If this thread was on /a/ half of the posts would be about Bleach and DBZ characters. 3/4 of the rest would be DCfags trolling.

[Anonymous No.]

/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081499
>But equally, the Hourai Elixir removes the *concept of death*. It is much like the inverse of Shiki's power and *nothing* can revert it.
Yukari wouldn't be able to kill her, nor would any Touhou for that matter. But just because they can't kill her does not mean they a) couldn't keep killing her for an eternity or b) seal her up in a location she could never escape. Yukari is more than capable of creating a boundary around Kaguya that she could never hope to escape from. ZUN has speculated that Yukari had a hand in the creation of Gensokyo's border. And the Hakurei border is so powerful that it's even strong enough to prevent a Lunarian invasion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081551
Oh shit not ran appeared.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4080779
I did too! awesome show was awesome. I still need to watch deluxe though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081553

>Yukari is more than capable of creating a boundary around Kaguya that she could never hope to escape from.

Probably, but Touhou isn't GRIMDARK, so that won't happen.

>And the Hakurei border is so powerful that it's even strong enough to prevent a Lunarian invasion.

I thought it was just that the Lunarians didn't attack because they didn't give a shit, as opposed to being actively blocked by the barrier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081569
The reason is they can`t see Gensokyo.

Thats why Eirin gave up her plan after IN.

[Anonymous No.]

Pram obliterates the planet Accelerator is on.

Death via lack of oxygen.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4081551
>>4081555

Not Ran still is god tier. I'd post the Yukari chart if I had it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081699
Wasn`t Not Ran some positions higher then omnipotent fags?

haven`t seen the chart for ages.

[Anonymous No.]

Esper powers are based around a mix of neurological mutations and "belief" that the esper can impose their will upon their local reality.

So if Yukari strengthens the boundary between fantasy and reality, Accelerator loses his powers. And gets a nice, nasty sunburn.

Yukari vs TTGL, however, would be a fascinating battle. On one hand, the manipulation of boundaries, on the other the denial of boundaries. On the gripping hand, she could always just open a portal into their heads and stick a fucking train through it... brain death is hard to overcome, even for shonen protagonists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081737
>brain death is hard to overcome, even for shonen protagonists

lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081735
>Not Ran
>ranked higher than omnipotents

This character intrigues me. Who's Not Ran?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081737
Viral got a hand through his heart one time and he instantly regenerated. Spiral is an infinite source of energy that disregards the law of conservation. Not to mention the fact that TTGL has the ability to attack the past, present and future. Which in theory would mean it could kill Yukari while she was still a baby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081822
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yami_to_B%C5%8Dshi_to_Hon_no_Tabibito

Tamamo no Mae, I assume.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081737
Yukari can just make TTGL a fantasy.

[Anonymous No.]

I like how people try to bring GL powers into powerlevel discussions. Whereas most series can at least somewhat define what a character's power is and where its limits lie, GL sounds like a 12 year old literally reading a few laws out of a science book and saying "NO MY MECHA IGNORES THAT RULE" ad infinitum.

Talk about shitty writing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081867
Yukari can only break down the border between fantasy and reality. She does not have the power to create fantasy worlds. But even if she did, TTGL has the power to overcome fantasies. As you clearly saw in episode 25. And unlike Yukari it also has the power to create unique dimensions. In the spiral zone, your will power takes form. And in such a dimension, traditional powers mean nothing. In said dimension, the person with the stronger will is the victor.

Yukari does, however, have the power to break down ones reality to the point where it becomes fantasy.

[Anonymous No.]

Goku can defeat Yukari.
You can discuss this at gaia.com

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081879
You moron, could it be that TTGL is the first anime in history where the hax is evolution itself? I'll reiterate, its hax is the ability to increase its hax. There is no limit to said evolution. But even if there was, Simon would just break through it.

In the series' concept, Spiral Energy is the power of evolution, generated by beings capable of doing so, like humans and other DNA-based animals, whose spiral double helix molecular structure allows them to get stronger through the generations. Beastmen, because they do not reproduce naturally, cannot evolve, thus are unable to produce Spiral Energy. The amount of Spiral Energy produced by an individual may vary and is based not only on its own limitations, but also its immediate will to survive and persevere. Spiral Energy has both infinite potential and applications - it has been known to regenerate and grow new parts on machines to a galactic scale, and even create tunnels through spacetime. One of its most prevalent applications in the series is in weaponry: Spiral-enhanced ammunition provides phenomenal stopping power, making a simple shotgun capable of damaging a Mugann, while Spiral-based warheads and energy beams demonstrate destructive power far in excess of nuclear weapons.

Spiral Energy is specifically stated to defy the conservation of energy, which in addition to explaining the creation of mass that is practically constant during battles, also carries danger if Spiral Energy is overused. Termed Spiral Nemesis by the Anti-Spirals, too much Spiral Energy may cause the universe to collapse into a massive black hole.

[Anonymous No.]

TTGL was shit after episode 8 anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081944
Omnipotent power > Infinitly growing power

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081975
>Omnipotent power > Infinitly growing power
Spiral power is not 'growing'. It's infinite.

As observed in the show, it has the power to make people/objects immortal by contradicting the law of conservation. And it even has the power to bring the dead back to life as observed in the final episode. There is no theoretical limit to its power, so it's basically a power of omnipotence. As long as the person weilding the power doesn't lose motivation, the spiral power will allow him to do anything his imagination allows him to think of.

-Warping half way across the galaxy in a second.
-Attacking the past/future.
-Manipulating probability.
-Creating/manipulating fantasy dimensions.
-Creating bigbangs.
-Reviving the dead.

Demonbane might be stronger than it, but if I had to choose one super powered mech, I'd choose GL because its potential is limitless. Since Gainax left some room for the spiral nemesis arc, we wont know TTGL's true potential until we see said arc.

[Anonymous No.]

Seriously, there are lots of ways for many characters to beat Acelerator.
Many simple magicians from many different works are capable of directly manipulating people and/or kill them in various ways.
Lots of magic lacks "matter" and can in some works be closer to nothing than anything and sometimes it really isn't anything even though it can bring forth results.
Heck, even the death note would work on him and the death note is kind of a limited "spell".
Accelerator still needs air and food and that is a serious disadvantage he has as opposed to lots of other characters.
Even characters who might not be able to directly kill him may still be able to trap him or stop him and kill him that way.
Even simple things such as polluted enough air can take him down.
Accelerator is actually quite smaltime among strong characters.
Lots of touhou can defeat hm
Lots of Marvel/DC characters can defeat him
I would say that he is rather helpless against the majority of the DB cast.
Lovecraftian horrors can defeat him by merely beeing seen, or through a thought.
Most TM characters can defeat him
Lots of "demon, Spirit, ghost" characters can take him down.

I can make this list very long but I won't cause it would be retarded, even more so than posting this in the first place.

And there are also lots of characters that can take down things such as TTGL, either directly or indirectly

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082069
Cmon, first of all it shouldn't matter if the spiral power is infinite, the user still functions as some kind of bottleneck.
It realy doesn't matter if it even was capable of doing anything (which it arguably cannot) as long as it is not the best at it.

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

Every setting has one character or another that can reasonably take down anyone and anything. It isn't exactly a unique ability.

Fellow albino death machine from nearly forgotten anime here even does it with a Ruger.
Not even a good Ruger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081944
But TTGL is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone in this topic excluding Kaguya and Mokou are now dead.

[Anonymous No.]

How about The Hulk VS TTGL?

In way they are alike, both have infinite power.
It is completely canon that Hulks power has no limit and grows indefinitely relative to his own anger.
It is also canon that the hulk can get infinitly angry, and that his own anger can make him angrier relative to to his initial anger.

The hulk is one of the few Marvel characters that have engaged Marvel gods(that almost no Marvel character stands a chance against except other marvel gods) and survived and even won on occasions.
He also broke Kronos and survived his multidimensional psuedo-omnipotent crap in a battle occurring in space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082196
Yuyuko power is human only, it doesn't do any effect on any other species.

[Anonymous2007 !StaIqxr34U No.]

>>4082152
Eeeh gag!

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

>>4082196

They never found the body.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082147
>Cmon, first of all it shouldn't matter if the spiral power is infinite, the user still functions as some kind of bottleneck.
Spiral potential does indeed vary from person to person, but Simon shows all signs of being the spiral nemesis (a person that has reached the limit of spiral energy that the universe can maintain).

>It realy doesn't matter if it even was capable of doing anything (which it arguably cannot) as long as it is not the best at it.
It's not a question of what it can do, it's more of a question of what it can't do. The ONLY reason why Simon was struggling to defeat the anti-spiral is because he was fighting against someone with spiral energy. Had that been any other fictional opponent Simon would have wiped the floor with them in roughly a few seconds. Also, Gainax said there's no limit to what spiral is capable of so it's (unfortunately) canon. The only flaw being the fact that the universe cant maintain such infinite power. Simon isn't a god yet but with each passing step, he slowly approaches perfection. That's the drill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082209
Hulk = GL confirmed

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082220
Not true, it works on all mortals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082254
>It's not a question of what it can do, it's more of a question of what it can't do.
That still doesn't really matter.
Can I bowl? Yes.
Am I the best at it? No(sadly)
Can I become the best at it? Perhaps.

If we took in other characters capable of doing the same feats as TTGL then it would could become downright confusing(and possibly impossible) to come to a conclusion, hence TTGL doesn't have to win.

>Simon shows all signs of being the spiral nemesis (a person that has reached the limit of spiral energy that the universe can maintain).
This immeadiately ranks him lower than any omnipotent character(as if that wasn't already obvious) and even then there are other non-omnipotent characters that trancends such limitations as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>Simon is immortal
>is canon

[Anonymous No.]

Bitches are all smalltime compared to

Universe Man
Universe Man
Size of the entire universe man

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082328
>Manverse

[Anonymous No.]

Adobe killed the Flash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082321
Being immortal does not meanone can't still disappear or be infinitely trapped.

[Anonymous No.]

Demonbane has been mentioned any no one has brought up the Shining Trapezohedron yet?
Which is essentially Demonbane going "Fuck you!" and summons every version of itself that is, was, will be, hasn't been, can't be, and never will be.

Honestly guys, I'm disappointed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082254
>Simon shows all signs of being the spiral nemesis

Is Simon the Spiral Nemesis?
[Y] N
[Y/N]
Y [N]

There you go. Yukari just turned Simon into a regular human.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082312
>That still doesn't really matter.
>Can I bowl? Yes.
>Am I the best at it? No(sadly)
>Can I become the best at it? Perhaps.
This ties into Simon's drill through anything hax (that guarantees his victory). This isn't fanon speculation, Simon's record of breaking through: laws, limits, fate/destiny are nicely documented in the series. Even when fighting against something with equivalent power to himself, he some managed to beat it. To put that into layman's terms, 1 and 1 collided and 1 won.

>If we took in other characters capable of doing the same feats as TTGL then it would could become downright confusing(and possibly impossible) to come to a conclusion, hence TTGL doesn't have to win.
In situations where two people with instant kill hax goes into combat, I always rank the character with more hax powers as the stronger character. TTGL for example could instantly prevent Yuyuko from ever existing by attacking the past and preventing her from being born. And Yuyuko could use her hax to instantly kill Simon. But since Simon's spiral hax allows him to manipulate the 5th dimension of probability, he could technically hax her before she gets a chance of haxing him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082475
Continued:

>This immeadiately ranks him lower than any omnipotent character(as if that wasn't already obvious) and even then there are other non-omnipotent characters that trancends such limitations as well.
By the end of the series he had mastered a lot of spiral power and had many powers comparable to the gods. Again, the only reason he was struggling in the final battle is because he was fighting against another person with god like powers. Shall we review his god like powers?

-He can bring the dead back to life.
-He can instantly create objects out of thin air without obeying the laws of conservation.
-The ability to grant immortality to people. Viral was NOT simply regenerating at light speed, his mass got restored to its original form simply by tapping into the infinite power of spiral energy. Viral himself cant tap into said energy, but Lord Genome designed him with a body mechanism that automatically repairs his damaged parts with spiral energy (with zero regards to the laws of conservation).
-He has an infinite power source of spiral energy at his disposal. Simply being motivated allows him to tap into said power.
-The ability to attack the past implies control over the higher dimensions (e.g., 4th dimension of time and the 5th dimension of probability).
-The ability to create fantasy dimensions.
-Need I continue?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082475

But she is already dead...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082487

[Anonymous No.]

Kenshiro killed Simon and GL.

They are already dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082321
>Simon is immortal
>is canon
I don't know what you mean by that but the power of spiral energy allows people to become immortal. Lord Genome made Viral immortal and his spiral powers are weaker than (kid) Simon's. I think Simon's only limitations are his morals. In the final episode, for example, he said he could bring *** back to life, but chose not to because that would be playing the role of a god.

Viral WASN'T regenerating, his regeneration speed didn't obey the conservation of mass laws. Spiral energy being an 'infinite' power source, allows Simon to regenerate or expand an object (like GL) at will (infinitely). He also has the power to create powerful Earth destroying weapons out of thin air.

>>4082391
>Demonbane going "Fuck you!" and summons every version of itself that is, was, will be, hasn't been, can't be, and never will be.
He can create his best, yet that still doesn't hold a candle to TTGL's potential best. Because Demonbane lacks the "evolution of hax" hax.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082487
He could prevent her from ever getting a chance to exist (let alone being born). The ability to attack the past means you can do such things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082475
>>4082481
First of all I must say that I find the action of preventing something in the present by doing something in the past feels a bit stupid to me, that is most likely not the way time works/behaves, butif that is how things work in the TTGL universe then let it be so.

Second of all you are assuming that he is the only character that overcomes impossible odds and stands as the victor after "1 has collided with 1". That might be the case in that world but when you compare many different universes and fictional works like this then there are all of a sudden lots of "Chosen ones".

>-Need I continue?
Well no, but you still haven't said anything that would say that he is omnipotent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082562
Spiral power is limited only be imagination. However, Demonsbane can summon versions of itself that cannot exist and are outside of human thought. I think that can win.

[Anonymous No.]

I think some people are seriously overestimating TTGL here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082562
I don't think you understand how "Never will be" works. This implies,
Actually, you know what fuck it, this isn't worth my time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4081005

Haruhi Suzumiya.

Gurren Lagann doesn't exist anymore, and has never existed in any spacetime or time plane.

The end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082562
>He can create his best, yet that still doesn't hold a candle to TTGL's potential best. Because Demonbane lacks the "evolution of hax" hax.
Well, you say that he can create his "best", but the thing is that with an infinite number of worlds and possibillities and with the power of demonbane it doesn't have to care for stuff like that.
You claim that Demonbane lacks "evolution hax" hax, well the thing is that there exists Demonbanes that are already evlolved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082575
What can our Christian god do?

Simon and Lord Genome have the power to create life. And Simon's spiral energy hax gives him the ability to create 'complex machinery' the size of planets within seconds. It took God 6 days to create earth. Simon could create an earth of this size in an instant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082570
>>4082575

Well, if GL killed Yuyuko's ancestors, Yuyuko would never exist. Therefore, there would be no need for GL to attack the past, and so, Yuyuko would still be alive.

How do you solve this anon?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>4082611
>It took God 6 days to create earth

Leaving aside literalists, I assume those are 6 "phases," and not days.

[Anonymous No.]

Simoun's thoughts and motivation still works as serious bottlenecks for him.

I bet that even someone that still doesn't mess around with dimensions and shit such as TM's Ado Edem can take him down.
With the speed of Ado's thought he can make it so that Simoun's physical body is no more before he has any chance of being motivated or accessing the spiral power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082611
Create Himself from nothingness, which seems like a pretty neat trick to me.

[None !KYON.wwv9s No.]

Accelerator is meh. His defense is almost flawless, but that's about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082628

Huh. If the past had been attacked, many events would have been different during the course of history. Chances are that GL would never have been created if certain events were changed.

Changing the past is stupid because it changes the present and future too.

[Anonymous No.]

Light can kill servants, Yukari, and Accelerator

Discuss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082649
Yukari is too old for the death note to work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082649
death notes only work on humans

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082643
The events that take place in Gensokyo have no effect on us or GL's world. Preventing a ghost from being born would not effect Simon in any way.

[Anonymous No.]

>Simoun's thoughts and motivation still works as serious bottlenecks for him.


>The Ghostly Violinist
>Lunasa Prismriver
>Species: Poltergeist
>Abilities: Melancholy musical performance
>Specializing in stringed instruments, she uses sounds that depress the spirit.

Lunasa can defeat GL. Not only she is already dead, she can also stop Simon from making any more Spiral energy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082611
By existing outside of time and space, time itself is completely irrelevant.
By being truly omnipotent there is nothing cannot be done.
Without space time doesn't exist, time was created along with the world.
And regrding the 6 days thing either way, who says it oculdn't be done differently? Was it needed to be done differently? We can't know if it was done as fast as possible and considering the omnipotent thing it probably could be done faster as there should be no limits to anything including minimum and maximum values.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082649
He is dead, Jim.

He can't kill anyone anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082674

So why the fuck would Simon try to kill that which is already dead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082674
How would Simon even think of drilling who-knows-how-many years into the past and killing some random person? How does he know anything about Yuyuko or where she is from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082722
>How would Simon even think of drilling who-knows-how-many years into the past and killing some random person? How does he know anything about Yuyuko or where she is from?
The spiral sense hack.

Remember that time Simon sensed where Nia was at, even though she was half way across the galaxy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082637
Going kind of off-topic here but if god truly exists outside of time then that also means that he has no beginning nor end, if that is true then god should have always existed and should always exist and shouldn't have had to be created by anything as he wouldn't have a beginning.

This goes hand in hand with modern science and so far we simply don't know if something can exist like that, but if something could then this should be true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082747
Because they were in love and she was wearing his ring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082643
Many theories supports that this isn't the case.
Altering the past would only change something at another point in existance letting it branch off into it's own branch of events and basically still being it's own world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082776

So it if Simon killed Yuyuko before she was born nothing would happen in his world and she would end up killing him?

[Anonymous No.]

When you first see someone, I don't think you'll think "oh gee, no way I can beat this person, better randomly shoot my drill back into the past thousands of years into another dimension."

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082776
>Many theories supports that this isn't the case.
Many incorrect theories. The majority of theoretical physicist disagree.

[Anonymous No.]

>Accelaretor Can kill Yukari, discuss
>264 posts and 55 image replies omitted.

Holy fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082819
That would basically be it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082830
True but if Simon was ever losing in a battle he could use the spiral power to manipulate probability to buy enough time to figure out a way of defeating his opponents. And Yuyuko's hax range is unknown. Since Simon would be in a mech the size of a planet, Yuyutits wouldn't know where to direct her powers towards.

Also, her powers are defined as invoking death in mortals. To invoke means to bring. I doubt she'd be able to deliver death to someone as haxed out as Simon. Then there's the other flaw in her powers that it only works on mortals. If Genome has the power to make people immortal and Simon has the power to bring the dead back to life, what would stop Simon from making himself temporarily immortal to defeat Yuyuko? Or simply just letting someone who is already immortal do the fighting for him. Last time I checked, Viral is NOT a mortal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082904
I think you are overestimating Simon's capabilites. None of the other spiral warriors were ever shown to be able to make themselves immortal. Viral also does not have any spiral power, TTGL couldn't operate if he was the only pilot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082833
Fuck you, claiming that that it downright just isn't so.
I won't be as bold and say that I am cirtainly right, but there is a wide acceptance of said theories among theoretical physicists.
In actuallity it is an entire category of theories but as for something from some theories
There exists an infinite number of worlds
There exists an infinite number of "time lines"
The general idea is that time simply isn't as easy as it is "linear".
Changing something in the past would make that past different from how it was in the history of that one who changed it, thus that past would not end up at the same place as they are no longer the same and it would instead continue in it's own course.

Yet again I won't be as bold as saying that I am 100% right but as far as I know these theories are widely accepted and well thought on theories.
This is of course theories on the level of "We can't know for sure but considering this it could be logical".

Instead of saying that I am just wrong you could either argue for why those theories couldn't be true or why they shouldn't be credible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082776
>>4082900
Probability doesn't work that way my friend. And you have a childish grasp on the spacetime continuum. Why do you think in DC comics people keep trying to go back in time to kill the over powered super heroes? Why did TTGL feel the need to attack the past, when doing such would have no effect on the present? I guess this really comes down to how high a dimension spiral power can reach. He would have to be able to attack things through the 6th dimension in order for it to be able to have any effects on a lower dimension. And rightfully so, he does have that power. Because in the show, attacking the past worked.

Yuyuko unfortunately doesn't have any higher dimensional powers. She just doesn't have what it takes to make it in this discussion of hax powerlevels. She's more of less on the same level as the lower dimension beings like Goku and Superman. Though in the case of Goku, his instant transmission technique allows him to transport to different dimensions like the afterlife. His attacks have been observed to have effects on the dead/spirits, as seen in one of the Kai tournaments. So good luck with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082904
But what if he would never have time to realize that he was losing?

Ado Edem > TTGL

[Anonymous No.]

>>4083006
>She's more *or less on the same level as the lower dimension beings like Goku and Superman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4083006
But she's the ruler of the netherworld. Anyone that can die, she can make die.

[Anonymous No.]

>Probability doesn't work that way my friend. And you have a childish grasp on the spacetime continuum.
What no? Sure there exists theories that aren't compatible but they aren't disproven either, we don't know yet for sure, as far as we know either of the theories could be right.
>Why do you think in DC comics people keep...
Oh for crying out loud, I don't know, as it makes up for interesting and easy to follow stories, perhaps?
Either way I wouldn't call either of it childish, both theories supporting the ones I mentioned and the ones opposing them are all theories on high levels and I wouldn't call any of them childish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>People in this thread honestly thinking that anything could ever kill Yukari


It's nice that we have a good thread like this one and awhile. It's a nice break from japanese bird and trolls trolling trolls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4082968
>I think you are overestimating Simon's capabilites. None of the other spiral warriors were ever shown to be able to make themselves immortal.
What point of Genome used his spiral energy to grant Viral a body that was immortal do you not understand? Viral might not be able to use spiral energy but his body is designed in such a way that spiral energy keeps reviving him. Simon also has the power to bring the dead back to life. Who's to say Genome or Simon don't have the power to make themselves immortal? Genome's body can hardly be considered normal, he was able to withstand attacks from TTGL with it.

Oh, and I just remembered the spiral force field that surrounds TTGL. Give up, it's the TTGL, you cant beat it. If spiral energy is infinite, and that force feild is made of spiral energy, that means it has enough energy to bend the time/space around it. It's probably more hax than an A.T field.

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>>4083091
>Who's to say Genome or Simon don't have the power to make themselves immortal?
Well, Genome died twice, so....

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>>4083091
>Give up, it's the TTGL, you cant beat it
What kind of fanboy are you?
So why do you think that the TTGL is the only character in fiction to be of that level?
I find that way of thinking to almost be amusing.

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>>4083091
I think you really are overestimating the TTGL. Lordgenome needed to sacrifice himself and give all of his spiral energy to Simon for him to beat the antispiral.

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>>4083091
>A.T field.
>hax
>Can be broken by physical weaponry

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>>4083091
Then I say this

F/sn Saber has Avalon
TTGL cant affect Saber in any way
She has Excalibur
Excalibur can take down TTGL
She is promised victory
She will win

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>>4083103
1). Genome has already used the spiral energy to stop his body from aging. Do you forget the fact that he has lived for thousands of years.
2). The form of immortality he gave Viral was more of a curse than anything. Viral is in the same boat as Kaguya.
3). I doubt Simon, Genome, or the anti-spirals would want to be 100% immortal.

>>4083091
Yuyutit's attacks could not break the spiral barrier. Not even Yukari could break such a barrier. Remember when the anti-spirals first appeared? Their force field was so strong that even Simon had a hard time breaking through it. And he's Simon (a.k.a the guy who's hax is to break through things). Once GL evolved into Chōginga, it's safe to assume its barrier got a lot stronger.

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>>4083187
>Not even Yukari could break such a barrier
Stop trolling.

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>>4083137
>>4083137
>I think you really are overestimating the TTGL. Lordgenome needed to sacrifice himself and give all of his spiral energy to Simon for him to beat the antispiral.

It was the anti-spiral(s) combined effort vs Simon and his crew. Sounds fair to me.

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>>4083198
>Stop trolling.
ZUN states there are some barriers that even Yukari has a hard time manipulating.

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>>4083218
In ZUN's own words "there's no defense against or weakness to Yukari's boundary powers."

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>>4083139
Not all A.T fields were created equally. And most of the time it takes an A.T field to stop another A.T field. Shinji's A.T field was so powerful in the movie that it changed everything into a primordial soup.

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>>4083225
>In ZUN's own words "there's no defense against or weakness to Yukari's boundary powers."
In the Touhou universe.

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>>4083250
that's not what he said

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>>4083260
There's such a thing called hyperbole. Only omnipotents can be exempt from it

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>>4083187
When you are saying that Yukari can't break through then you truly are trolling.
And TTGL is far from omnipotent, as TTGL isn't omnipotent he is automatically infinitly weaker than something who is.

And things such as definite truths are quite common in quite many different works(especially mythologies but lets not bring in those now)

What >>4083164 said about saber would stil be true.
What could you say to counter it? It is the truth, if you claim otherwise or that TTGL would win then it would end as a stalemate as there would be two conflicting definites conflicting eachother and we wouldn't be able to continue from there.

There are many other characters like that really, and as already said omnipotent characters exists in cerain works as well and against those TTGL woudn't stand a chance.

Omnipotent or not, Simon being immortal or not, Simon simply witnessing Cthulhu would either kill him if Simon isn't immortal and if he is Simon would be rendered an empty shell from having his mind destroyed

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If the anti-spirals was stronger than TTGL without genome sacrificing himself then that also means that none of them were omnipotent and it also means that characters can be stronger than them both without being omnipotent themselves.

I would still say
Demonbane > TTGL though
There exists a Demonbane stronger than TTGL and there would also be an infinite number of them.

>Give up, it's the TTGL, you cant beat it
Oh such a bad troll

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>>4083164
FSN crew aren't hyper dimensional enough to meet the minimum requirements needed to participate in this thread of powerlevels. Anything they can conceivable do can be routed by TTGL's probability or time hax (e.g., 4th, 5th, 6th dimensional manipulation). Not to mention the fact that TTGL could place any opponent in the spiral zone. (A place that doesn't have the same laws as ours.)

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>>4083331
Simon was being outnumbered by them. That mech they used to fight against Simon in the last episode was from the combined effort of all of the anti-spirals. Despite being out numbered by billions of opponents, Simon still found a way to win.

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>>4083350
It still wouldn't be able to break through to Saber however.
I am just pointing out how increadibly stupid this whole thread is.
Several characters/beings have been brought up that could/can/most likely woul win against TTGL but it seems to be somewhat ignored.

The fact that saber may or may not be as hax was kind of the point as the facts that TTGL wouldn't be able to do shit against saber would be true and the fact that Excalibur could take TTGL down would also be true, or at least as true as TTGL taking Saber down.
It's all stupid really.

Lovecraftian horros could beat him by simply being seen or wanting him to disappear.

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>>4083374
He didn't win with his own power, Genome sacrificed himself.

Demonbane can be just as strong if not stronger.
There are infinite number of Demonbanes, not merely billions.

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>>4082209
Well, I would place Kronos at roughly the same level as GL, so I would say that the Hulk is at least capable of beating GL.

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>>4083297
>When you are saying that Yukari can't break through then you truly are trolling.
Yukari struggled to break the border of the netherworld. If you think she has the power to instantly break barriers, you need to do some more reading. And the barriers in TTGL are particularly strong because even Simon struggles to break through them sometimes. It's a barrier composed of spiral energy, and according to Gainax there's no theoretical limit to spiral energy. It could literally be a barrier of energy, time/space, infinity, etc... Meaning, that's one haxed out barrier.

But good job using the good old 'troll' argument.

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>>4083477
>But good job using the good old 'troll' argument.
But yes why not?
I mean you still argues as if nothing else is possible than for you to be right.

>And the barriers in TTGL are particularly strong because even Simon struggles to break through them sometimes.
This is one of the things that makes me feel that you are also a troll and not only a ferocious fan-boy.
What makes you think that Yukari would be any less capable than Simon in the field of breaking through barriers?
If he has the power to break through them she has the power to control them and also breaking through them.
Sure it might not neccesarily be easy but why would she be any worse at it than Simon?

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Simon's Power =/= Infinity
Demonbane=Infinity

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>>4083550
Spiral power = Infinity

As long as Simon has the will power, he has infinite energy.

TTGL is always evolving, Demonbane is static.

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>>4083571
Limited by it's universe. Try again.

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>>4083571
You do realize that Demonbane is kind of like TTGL except for the factthat Demonbane is FULLY evolved.
What TTGL can be Demonbane already is in terms of power.
Him being static doesn't matter, he has infinite power, TTGL's infinity is no "stronger" and the implication that TTGL can be stronger while still having infinite power implies that it doesn't have infinite power, only the potential of infinite power.
Either way Demonbane already has infinite power
Or fully evolved beyond all limits of what is possible to break through if that sounds better to your ears.

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Well good night troll
I can't afford to waste more of my precious night needlessly arguing with you.
Have fun trolling.

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>>4083629
You underestimate spiral energy. TTGL cant reach a limit because the universe cant maintain such a powerful entity. Demonbane's limit is not equivalent to TTGL's limit because Demonbane lacks TTGL's ability to evolve. For you to even imply TTGL's final form would be as weak as Demonbane is an insult. Demonbane might have more hax than TTGL, but TTGL's hax is limitless. (Again, spiral energy is the ability to evolve.)

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>>4083629
>TTGL's infinity is no "stronger" and the implication that TTGL can be stronger while still having infinite power implies that it doesn't have infinite power, only the potential of infinite power.
What I meant by "spiral energy is infinite" is that it can be used as an infinite source of energy. And on top of that it grants its wielder with the power of evolution. Meaning that if there's a power out there that Demonbane's complete form doesn't have, TTGL could (potentially) acquire said power. Let me reiterate, simply having spiral energy does NOT grant one infinite power, but it does give the person the ability to acquire infinite power via evolution. Just in the span of three episodes alone, TTGL's powers multiplied by a billion. And as far as we know, his power could have been multiplying during the time skip to hobo Simon. There's a reason why the anti-spirals feared Simon in particular, they knew he was on the verge of becoming the spiral nemesis.

Again, if I could only choose one super powered mech, it would be TTGL because its potential is limitless. It might be the first hax in the history of hax that is a hax about increasing ones' hax.

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>>4083748
>>4083842
How are you thinking, really?
>Demonbane's limit is not equivalent to TTGL's limit because...
Demonbane has infinite power, it has no limits, it already has an infinite power.
Something with infinite power cannot aquire more power. There is no infinity+.
The highest number you can come up with is still infinitly less than an infinity.
infinitt - 1 = infinity + 1
1x infinity = 2 xinfinity
1x infinity = 3193 xinfinity
1x infinity = infinity/2
1x infinity = infinity/5

infinity = infinity
If Demonbane's power is infinite TTGL wouldn't be able to become stronger than him by evolving further as Demonbane would still be infinitly strong.
If TTGL's potential power is limitless Demonbane's power is limitless as it has infinite power.

>You underestimate spiral energy. TTGL cant reach a limit because the universe cant maintain such a powerful entity.
If this is true then the TTGL universe would probably shatter or something by the precense of Demonbane as Demonbane's power is infinite(greater than what TTGL's universe can maintain as it apparently cannot maintain infinite power as there apparently is a power it cannot mainatain.)
Demonbane would still be alright even if that universe would shatter though and Demonbanes would still exist in other worlds were the universe is intact.
Either way Demonbane would still be able to venture into the nothingness left behind after that universe wouldhave shattered.
You have frequently said that everyone underestimates Spiralpower, TTGL, Simon, but don't you even think that there might be a possibility that you are underestimating Demonbane, omnipotent characters/creatures and characters/creatures with limitless/infinite/absolute powers as well.

So it doesn't really matter if TTGL can increase it's own "hax" as infinite hax+ is still no greater than infinite hax.
And as said in the previous post his battle against the antispirals proved that neither of them had infinite power as they were stronger than eachother on occasions which implies that neither of them had infinite power.

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>>4083842,1
Yeah well, Demonbane sucks! I've seen western cartoons that were better than it.

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This thread truly show just how sad and 'low-level' /jp/ has become.

Why must /jp/ never be decent again?

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>>4083842,3
Cheer up, spring semester for most people will be beginning next week or the week after.
That means the high school kids from /a/ won't be here in the mornings any more, at least.

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/jp/ - Animu & Mango