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A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Mahou Tsukai no Yoru
VN: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English patch: https://hollow-moon.github.io
French patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french
Italian patch: https://riffourtranslations.wordpress.com/category/mahoutsukai-no-yoru

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (English)
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3439039
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ
MEGA Link
https://mega.nz/folder/3hMjEaTK#TKTKhfXVd9v0emG8ePsDVQ

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
Tsukihimates and Clover Moon MTL Project (Please contribute if you can)
https://github.com/Tsukihimates/Tsukihime-Translation

>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3113948
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate/Zero
https://nyaa.si/view/961297
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5943-Lord-El-Melloi-II-Case-Files
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/fQFiyY4I#UcZr7N0u3_35994pXKP8qw
Heaven's Feel Manga
https://ww.mangakakalot.tv/manga/manga-kc952437
Heaven's Feel Movie Booklet Translation
https://imgur.com/a/se9NHn6

>Angel Voice (one of the first works released by TM)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip/file
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com
>Fate/EXTRA
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-perfect-patch-hack
>Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fate/strange Fake
https://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
>Fate/type Redline
https://mangadex.org/title/44059/fate-type-redline
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
>Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lli17cum6jzg7/Marmalade
>Tsuki no Sango
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Tsuki no Sango Manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1

>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Type-Moon Comic Ace
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
>TMdict Glossary
https://www.tmdict.com
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
https://www.tsukikan.com
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
>Tsukihime Tokuhon
https://exhentai.org/g/82076/173f6680ef

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>> No.40334789

>>40333469
By that point Shirou is broken and will do anything to win. I doubt Rin would ever expect him to backstab her and kill her while Archer is fighting another Servant. Archer may suspect something, but Rin would stop him from doing anything like in UBW. Shirou would just let the war play out and kill Rin when she least suspects it.

>> No.40334828

why is fate so gay/cringe

>> No.40334871

/tmg/, I’m trying to download yuzu so I can play TsukiR.
Where do I get the files that need to come from the switch?

>> No.40334952
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>>40334742
I mean, if you wanted to post CCC content you could have posted her.
I need her to fix me so bad.

>> No.40335258
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40335258

For me, it's Robin

>> No.40335316

>>40334789
Per Kirei, Shirou will fight Rin to the death head on. They will be the final match.

>> No.40335401

>>40334952
Ending scene with her backstory and scene with Kiara and Andersen is one of my favorite moment in Fate

>> No.40335473

>>40334871
literally just search it; it's like the first result

>> No.40335701
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i love them so much it’s unreal

>> No.40336098
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>> No.40336300

>>40335701
i cant read moon runes but this is cute and i love them too

>> No.40336369
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What the fuck was her problem?

>> No.40336380

>>40336369
I played the first Extra game and I don’t even what her deal is. What a forgettable character.

>> No.40336385

>>40336380
don’t even remember what her*

>> No.40336427
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>> No.40336431
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my cunnywife

>> No.40336440

>>40336380
All what I remember about her is that she is a homunculus with a very high computational power, she is from Atlas, and that she has exhibitionist kink and doesn't wear underwear.

>> No.40336451

>>40334952
>I mean, if you wanted to post CCC content you could have posted her.
Too bad I prefer Rin.

>> No.40336486
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>> No.40336509
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>> No.40336546

>>40336486
Poor kiri

>> No.40336587
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Is morally correct to marry a hag?

>> No.40336630

>>40336587
only if pure

>> No.40336832

>>40336451
Based

>> No.40336891
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Gay coming soon

>> No.40336897

>>40336891
Nice. More gay is good.

>> No.40336914

Is KnK the only type moon IP with no gaybait?

>> No.40336918

>>40334828
Gay as in uncool, lame, stupid, or gay as in homosexual?

>> No.40336928
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>>40336914

>> No.40336930

>>40335258
>fgo
go back

>> No.40336934
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>>40336914
Anon…

>> No.40336965

>>40336930
He showed up in Extra first, dummy

>> No.40336967

>>40335258
I don't how much of a (un)popular opinion is that, but he is one of my favorite male designs. Simple, yet effective.
>>40336930
He is an Extra character, he appears in CCC too and he is very fun there. I don't think he appears in fgo much.

>> No.40336985 [DELETED] 

Despite being 13% of the population, homos created 80% of the latest five /tmg/ threads.

>> No.40337018

>>40336965
>>40336967
>excuses
doesn't matter
go back

>> No.40337026
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>>40336930
>>40337018
the absolute state of te em ge

>> No.40337031

>>40336930
Retard.

>> No.40337064

FGO really does live rent free in your heads.

>> No.40337081

>>40336928
>Azaka is homophobic
I like her more now

>> No.40337120

>>40337018
Stop false flagging retard.

>> No.40337140
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Nice

>> No.40337169
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>> No.40337260

>>40337169
Kohaku would never do something like this...

>> No.40337270

>>40337260
Of course she would…she’s a gamer.

>> No.40337274

>>40337140
why must homos tempt me

>> No.40337312

fgo expanded lore
whats wrong with that

>> No.40337319

Rin expanded my cock
whats wrong with that

>> No.40337326

Shirou expanded my sword collection
What’s wrong with that

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Rin expanded the back of her underwear.
What's wrong with her?

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>>40337334
Delete this awful post right now

>> No.40337380
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40337380

There is a critical lack of cute boys

>> No.40337388

>>40337380
why is Archer dressed like a boomer?

>> No.40337398

>>40337380
Feel free to post them.

>> No.40337399

>>40337347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-jgtVahqmY

>> No.40337427
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what if- what if, gilgamesh, but gay?

>> No.40337435

>>40337388
Because he is one?

>> No.40337450

>>40337427
Gilgamesh is already gay, as per FHA. The game plays a clapping sound effect when he says that gender doesn't matter.

>> No.40337471

>>40337450
>Gilgamesh is already gay
No he is completely straight except when it involves sapient clay.

>> No.40337472
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I wish Lumina added Bloody Back Alley for Red Arc/Roa or literally did anything the slightest bit edgy. The visual violence was dialed up to 11 in the remake, so it wouldn't be out of left field, but Lumina got a 12 rating so of course it will never happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbJYQAPj9NM

>> No.40337506

>>40337471
Anon, I...

>> No.40337522

>>40337399
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhcV-PeISXs

>> No.40337532

>>40337522
Huh?

>> No.40337707

>>40336934
Link, please?

>> No.40337719

>>40337532
If you spread Sakura's cunt open, do the worms spill out on their own, or do you need to stick your finger in there and wobble around?

>> No.40337769

>>40337719
What are you going on about?

>> No.40337799

>>40337769
You are forcing your dumb memes about as hard as Shinji forced himself into Sakura

>> No.40337811
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>>40337799
>memes

>> No.40337825
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Fate posters posting garbage. Name a more iconic duo.

>> No.40337831

>>40337811
Imagine it was Sakura in the box and she was the one who had to pee... piss-stained worms everywhere. Bet it gets your penis hard.

>> No.40337954

>>40336914
lioforcefeedingmikiya.png

>> No.40338049

I fucking hate Youtube comments, they are filled with scum and the trashiest opinions anyone can come across. And the worst thing is that I can't avoid it unlike other normalfag platforms like Twitter or reddit.

>> No.40338065

>>40338049
Just don't look at the comments, LMAO.

>> No.40338074
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>>40338049
>I can't avoid it
just don't scroll down, retard????

>> No.40338114

>>40338049
What are you watching?

>> No.40338181

>>40337825
Unironically kinda Kino.

>> No.40338203

>>40338065
>>40338074
I... just can't. I do it subconsciously out of habit since I am used to do so out of necessity in the non-otaku media stuff I consume.
>>40338114
I am talking generally, not a particular video. But that video someone posted >>40337522 gave me ptsd about it.

>> No.40338220

>>40338203
Admit it. You clapped.
Sakura:"Im not virgin"
Shirou : Pause
Main menu
Start new
Select route
UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS

>> No.40338254

>>40338220
Congratulations, you just made a Youtube comment-tier post.

>> No.40338281

>>40338220
Ngl this is definitely me when I see Sakura on the screen

>> No.40338333

Which is the straightest Type-Moon IP?

>> No.40338406
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>>40338220
I loathe this script-speaking shit with every fiber of my being.
X:
Me:
Fuck off. It's impossible to find a semblance of originality and intelligent discussion nowadays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-nRbI_8K_c

>> No.40338413

Who is the straightest /tmg/ poster?

>> No.40338431

>>40338413
Rinfag

>> No.40338440
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>> No.40338465

>>40338413
Castoriaposter.

>> No.40338466

>>40338203
Just use yt-dlp+mpv [url]. ez

>> No.40338515

>>40338333
Notes

>> No.40338523

>>40338333
Tsuki no Sango. No gay. Only Silicon X Carbon Love Story

>> No.40338529

>>40338466
This actually look pretty great, and also supports bilibili which might be helpful.
Thanks anon, will look into it.

>> No.40338560

>>40338465
NO! NO HE CAN’T BE! IF HE IS STRAIGHT, HE WON’T KISS ME!

>> No.40338571

>>40338560
it's common knowledge that castoriafag is a woman.

>> No.40338591

>>40338440
Cute

>> No.40338597
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>>40338571
I thought you guys said there were no girls in /tmg/...

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>> No.40338623

I love Nasu's descriptions of extreme pain. Probably one of his strongest points as a writer.

>> No.40338687
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>> No.40338699

>>40334952
KIARA SEX

>> No.40338713

>>40338623
Examples?

>> No.40338723

>>40338713
Don't have any screenshots right now. It just came across my mind.

>> No.40338738

>>40338713
Shouldn't be hard to find, I think 50% of all of Sugiyama's voicelines for Shirou in the VN are his screaming in pain

>> No.40338743

>>40338623
You mean physical or mental/emotional pain? I tend to dislike the former while liking the latter.

>> No.40338764

>>40338743
I meant physical pain first and foremost. Emotional pain is usually pretty self-explanatory, I think.

>> No.40338774

>>40338687
>Roa doesn't have green h- oh.

>> No.40338817
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>>40338413
i am

>> No.40338827

>>40338817
We know, gook

>> No.40338830
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>> No.40338842

>>40338827
i feel insulted

>> No.40338869
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>>40338827
You can't just call random cielposters the gook, that's very mean

>> No.40338876
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>>40338842
What made Gook so enamored with Ciel, anyway? I wonder what's his personal brand of autism. Is it literally just powerlevel wankery?

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Now that the dust has settled, did you forgive her for laughing at Shiki and talking about her ovaries on what was supposed to be a comfy morning in the Tohno Manor?

>> No.40338914

>>40338876
honestly im not even sure myself, he's an enigma.

>> No.40338942

>>40338882
Yes I did. Even Nasu admitted that he was just trolling everyone with that scene. At that point, I had no choice but to kneel.

>> No.40339104

touko pantyhose

>> No.40339148
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>>40339104

>> No.40339166

>>40339148
me on right

>> No.40339197
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Is it practically for certain that the FGO crew is the one doing Mahoyo?

>> No.40339224

>>40339148
Me on the left

>> No.40339248

>>40339148
Me on couch.

>> No.40339272

>>40339197
Name ONE bad thing about FGO’s translation aside from events and meme characters

>> No.40339273

>>40338882
Let her have the Tohno fortune. Enough said?

>> No.40339294
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>>40339272

>> No.40339338

No worries, I'll gobble up even deepL-chama tier translations.

>> No.40339404

Her lewdness is a great nightmare.

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wahoo

>> No.40339415

>>40339272
>剪定事象
>Pruning Theoretical Phenomenon

>> No.40339470

>>40339272
You can't defend "gomensorry" even if it was in some stupid event or whatever.

>> No.40339516

>>40339197
Think so? Hope they don't make the size as big as TsukiR, but they probably will.

>> No.40339539
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40339539

Which hairstyle is your favorite?

>> No.40339551

>>40339539
I don't care as long as she has a thick bush

>> No.40339576

>>40339539
Only normal and curly suit her. Maybe ponytail too. The rest don't fit.

>> No.40339579

>>40339516
I mean, it's just a guess on my end, but I'd be surprised if they don't take the absolute cheapest and lowest effort path.

>> No.40339598

>>40339539
Normal. No contest.

>> No.40339682

If you could smell the underwear of any type moon character who would it be

>> No.40339772

>>40339539
bunbuns look pretty good. I usually dislike that style...

>> No.40339776

>>40339404
Frankly I'm baffled that sex scene is actually better executed than the UBW one, even if I think the thematic and storytelling value of the UBW sex scene is underappreciated

>> No.40339782

>>40339415
That’s from Extella
>>40339470
I don’t read events

>> No.40339784

>>40339682
Shiki is the safe and efficient answer.

>> No.40339795

>>40339782
It's carried over so it's kinda worse.

>> No.40339796

>>40339782
"I don't read FGO" is the only sensible response.

>> No.40339811

>>40339776
I think that's because they seem enthusiastic and into it, while the UBW scene from beginning to end feels like something they're forced into due to their situation and it even doubles down on the weirdness by emphasizing the blood of her virginity.

>> No.40339816

>>40339776
>thematic and storytelling value of the UBW sex scene is underappreciated
And what that might be?

>> No.40339939

>>40338571
(X) Doubt.

>> No.40339983

>>40339579
well TsukiR had some weird bugs in general so that's probably going to happen.

>> No.40340001

>>40339784
>safe
>efficient
y

>> No.40340010

>>40339983
Weird bugs...such as?

>> No.40340029

>>40340010
people not being able to save their game. TM had to release a patch for it and tweet about it. Also the image quality for the switch version not being great.

>> No.40340041
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>>40338869
>>40338842
Sorry Cielbros.

>> No.40340044

>>40339816
Nothing special about the sex scene itself, just the whole idea that in the end the reason Shirou was able to realize his ideal to the fullest and prove the fake can surpass the original was thanks to Rin's mana, ie. her love and support. I think it's a fitting way to end UBW.

>>40339811
Yeah I get why someone would find rape stuff arousing but that entire sex scene is just two dumb teenagers dumbing it up because Rin rejected foreplay because of her insecurities. I just find it odd they decided to go for such a thing for Rin's sex scene at all.

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>>40340041
i accept your apology

>> No.40340076

>>40340044
I mean it's more realistic for dumb teenagers to not know how to have sex and it being bad in general. It's just the way Shirou acted was a bit OCC. I do like that it happened since it was talked about in F/HA.

>> No.40340090

>>40339539
All of them. I liked all of them.

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>>40340090
the correct answer. Here is your prize

>> No.40340114

>>40340044
Even in HA she gets shafted. I know some people like her scene there but her being sick and smelly is hardly a turn-on.

Saber's and Sakura's eclipse scenes are a lot better in HA, IMHO.

...weird to think that the only game with actually fappable H-scenes is the one in which fans have written the H-scenes rather than Takeuchi lol.

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Girl.
Say something nice about her!

>> No.40340242

>>40340114
>but her being sick and smelly is hardly a turn-on
speak for yourself

>> No.40340260

>>40340114
the character interaction in that scene between Shirou and Rin is great though. No one actually jerks off to the H scenes, right?

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>>40340076
It's perhaps more realistic, but does it really make for a good story? Overall the biggest issue with Shirou/Rin as it exists in the VN is that it feels that it doesn't really have a proper conclusion IMO. Don't get me wrong, Archer's farewell and the classroom scene are pure kino, but it doesn't feel like enough, given how by the end the two aren't fully comfortable with another as the people who like them together want to see them (hence why the anime timeskip was so good). The sex scene doesn't really help things.

>>40340114
The sick date was a different scene. And she smelled fine, Shirou said so. She was just feeling extremely insecure. How can you say it's bad with picrel, anon?

>> No.40340331

>>40340298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPGZCQLWi4o

>> No.40340343

>>40340298
...why, then, did I remember her feeling unwell or something? I remember it being bed rest or something.

And of course, it was cute. But it wasn't that hot to me, frankly.

>And she smelled fine, Shirou said so.

I remember Shirou saying that she smelled like perfume masking medicine. I guess that's fine, but it sounds kinda like a "shower in a can" type of solution.

>> No.40340370

>>40340096
Thanks, the pleasure was all mine, believe it.

>> No.40340384

>>40340190
She has an interesting and charming design.

>> No.40340399

what does shirou smell like uwu

>> No.40340416

>>40340298
I mean it's a different kind of romance between friends becoming lovers and it isn't like a star-crossed lovers kind of romance between Saber and Shirou. The both of them are still figuring things out and planning their future together. The scenes in the class room with Rin promising to stick with him and be his mentor fits for these kids that are trying their best.

>> No.40340428

>>40340399
swords, duh

>> No.40340433

>>40340399
Sweat and pitiful shame (the non-chad kind that only virgin losers exude)

>> No.40340451

>>40340399
tea, detergent, washing powder and some common deodorant brand

>> No.40340477

>>40340343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLc8ti4koP4&list=PLVGPtPLTKP0zQBLEtVcqjkLWJiGKXVsS1&index=112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmagFcH_5TA&list=PLVGPtPLTKP0zQBLEtVcqjkLWJiGKXVsS1&index=113

>I remember Shirou saying that she smelled like perfume masking medicine.
He says she smelled like herbs, a smell that could "seep out of a jewelry box" (speaking as an EOP...).

>>40340416
Oh yeah I agree. But in order for their relationship to feel properly concluded it has to feel like they have already figured the core of their relationships. I think the final scene in the anime does that perfectly.

>> No.40340499

>>40340451
japanese dont use deodorant

>> No.40340511

>>40340260
Some of the best nuts I've ever had have been at the part where Rin sucks Shirou off. I think the sex scene does an amazing job of communicating to you just how good Shirou is feeling plus the idea of Rin giving a blowjob and it's diamond dick time.

>>40340331
You feel even an ounce of shame for dragging /a/ shit in here?

>> No.40340518

>>40340499
>europoors are still just as stinky as they were a thousand years ago

Gaijins are gross!

>> No.40340566

>>40340511
I just can't jack off with Nasu's writing or that my image of the characters in the VN's makes it hard to do so. I don't know. I can do it for doujins since the disconnect is there, but for a story like F/SN it's hard to get in the mood for it. I can for trash eroge at times though.

>> No.40340617

>>40340566
>can't jack off with Nasu's writing
HA H-scenes were written by guest writers and the ones in Tsukihime and FSN were written by Takeuchi to my knowledge. Nasu apparently never felt comfortable enough with writing sex to write any of them himself.

>> No.40340625

>>40340617
that's a good point. I do find Saber's scene to be good so maybe that's why.

>> No.40340663

>>40340625
I agree, I like that one the best in HA, I think.

Kagetsu Tohya was also a Takeuchi job, I believe.

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How are we feeling today, /tmg/?

>> No.40340917

>>40340888
Sad

>> No.40340944

>>40340888
Where are the happy options?

>> No.40341145

>>40340944
>/tmg/
>happy
heh...

>> No.40341153

>>40340499
>>40340518
I am white and my armpits never smell like anything.

>> No.40341373

Anyone got that drawing of Arc vs Omniman?

>> No.40341689

Which is the gayest Type-Moon IP?
If you are going to say Fate, include a runner-up.

>> No.40341755

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/99373741

>> No.40341804

Huh, doesn’t look like we’ll have a 20th anniversary this year at this rate since the 10th anniversary event happened in July 7-8 in 2012. Maybe they can announce a date for it during FGO Fes for later in the year? They have to have something planned for such a big year for TM right?

>> No.40341844

Need another one of these hype videos. https://youtu.be/83nPn0IThJU

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>> No.40343035

>>40341804
I can't imagine they will let it go without doing something big. They are probably just keeping it a surprise and waiting for the last moment to announce it.

>> No.40343119

>>40339539
ponytail

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>>40343201

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>>40343209

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>> No.40345697

I hope this thread dies early

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>> No.40345743

>>40345697
I hope this thread dies when it’s way overdo.

>> No.40345765

>>40345697
I hope you die early

>> No.40345845

>>40343201
Cute.

>> No.40345848

>>40345765
rude
death is not funny

>> No.40345851

>>40341804
I think now that FGO fes is a regular thing, we should prepare to be disappointed.

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>> No.40346554

>>40343035
>>40341804
Cope. TM doesn't care about anything that doesn't make them money.

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>> No.40346643

>>40346598
Cute

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>> No.40346653 [DELETED] 

>>40346598
What's happening?

>> No.40346691

>>40346598
aaa cute

>> No.40346755

>>40346653
lmao idiot

>> No.40346928

>>40346755
What did they post?

>> No.40346949

>>40346928
You can check warosu but they were asking what's happening in the pic

>> No.40346993

>>40346598
That’s a weird looking Shiki

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>> No.40347439

>>40346598
Is /tmg/ ready for when this doesn’t turn out to be her identity?

>> No.40347485

>>40347439
>he doesn't know

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Thoughts on sex?

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>>40347643

>> No.40347691

>>40347439
I hope TM is watching SNS because this honestly is the best thing they could do.

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>> No.40347932

>>40347643
I felt bad for Osakabehime in that particular "chapter".

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>>40347643
i like sex

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>>40347976

>> No.40348028

>>40347988
i even like that type of sex

>> No.40348039

>>40347643
Shirou has a skinny penis and Tohsaka struggled to feel anything.

>> No.40348072

>>40347988
where is this from?

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>>40348072

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>> No.40348348

>>40346598
I always thought that true ending of Tsukihime 2 is that Arc and Shiki would make an offspring since Shiki has a limited lifespan and Arc using TA Powers to create compatiblity. Resulting a TA Dhampir Child who will be a Vampire Hunter D reference who will one day have to kill the Crimson Moon.

>> No.40348461

>>40348231
keep forgetting those are funny

>> No.40348464

>>40348039
She came six times

>> No.40348842

>>40348348
Sounds a bit too dark. I'm thinking Shiki solves the CM issue in his life. It would probably be the culmination of Tsukihime lore. In order to restore Arc to her normal state or something.

>> No.40348855

>>40347405
This shit is so wholesome. This should be a spinoff.

>> No.40348931

habit wearing ciel is so fucking hot

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thoughts on weed?

>> No.40349161

>>40349139
Makes you deserve the rope.

>> No.40349227

>>40349139
Winners don't do drugs.

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>>40349139
drugs are bad

>> No.40349508

>>40349161
>>40349227
>>40349451
I guess you aren't cool enough

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>> No.40349825

i love aoko

>> No.40349835

>>40349825
why?

>> No.40349840

i love ciel

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>>40349139
It makes me feel like I'm gonna die

>> No.40350132

>>40349825
We know Touko

>> No.40350174

>>40349825
You can’t rape girls under 18, Ritsuka.

>> No.40350250

>>40350015
lol you are cute

>> No.40350251

>>40349835
She gives us all candy and money to spend.
Just be sure you don't get her mad.

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I want to choke to death on Ryougis feet and ejaculate in my pants

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>>40350250
m-maybe I am...

>> No.40350321

>>40350269
seiba stop being gay

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>>40350269

>> No.40350366

>>40350360
I want to kiss both.
At the same time.

>> No.40350390

So this is the power of FGO players.
https://twitter.com/realmax0r/status/1541947423332786176?s=21&t=k8Xo7L6bXXu3vqsLzegKww

>> No.40350403

The maids are sluts!

>> No.40350408

>>40340076
>It's just the way Shirou acted was a bit OCC.
Dunno I think it was pretty fitting. The point of Shirou is that he is a character who learns to value himself through the love of the heroines and slowly grows to become more selfish and concerned for his own happiness thanks to them. The fact that he is so assertive and selfish in the Rin sex scene just reflects that.

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>>40350390
based schizo
max0r is also pretty based

>> No.40350427

>>40350390
Larpers are everywhere, anon. Not just an fgo thing.

>> No.40350433

>>40350427
you can spot a few ones in /tmg/ if you pay attention

>> No.40350492

>>40350427
doesn't make it any less embarrassing.

>> No.40350558

https://twitter.com/wadarco_artwork/status/1542108114861924352?t=HEHKe9SkgmWm7Sr1vJPg4Q&s=19

>> No.40350573

>>40350558
FUCK Nero

>> No.40350588

>>40350573
only if I can mute her.

>> No.40350623

>>40350390
Absolutely pathetic. Both in choice of character and delusion.

>> No.40350740

>>40350390
Vote here for an incorrect summary of Mahoyo by Max0r when it releases in December.

>> No.40351721

>>40350740
Kek. I zoned out in the middle of his Elden Ring video. But it was actually kinda cool. I zoned back in during Radahn.

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https://skeb.jp/@isurugiratone/works/13

>> No.40352106

>>40352011
hot and based

>> No.40352123

>>40352011
>In order to see this work, please log in and turn on 'NSFW' in your account settings.
No way, fag.

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>> No.40352164

>>40352123
>he doesn't have an account solely for looking at art
years behind in the game amigo

>> No.40352193

What is your attraction to the Fate/sty knight visual novels?
It was my first real VN and was impressed by how much I enjoyed the presentation. With the name "visual novel" I was expecting long lines of text. I thought the story was fun and how finishing one story opened another was a fun thing to discover.

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>> No.40352243

>>40352213
who's that one on the right?

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>>40352243
Shinji’s gf from last encore. Thought it was Drake at first. What a pull.

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>>40352270
>drawing a literal who instead of /OurShotaconPirate/ Drake
Wada is a hack.

>> No.40352300

>>40352289
Yeah, think she’ll have a roll in extra remake since they’re making new art of her. Could also be Nasu wanting to try again with her and do better.

>> No.40352335

https://twitter.com/shakeikurararan/status/1542278550375477248?s=20&t=aaeC_MuOB74ta_8wcNRl5Q

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Literally me

>He takes after Rider in that his sole pleasure lies in Japanese video games (often called 'visual novels'), though he has come to hate Japan and its people. He orders large batches of these games, and after playing through them fully, takes the time to diligently give detailed reviews on the games through their survey cards. Though he often receives game memorabilia through sweepstakes, he cares little for it and mostly believes that it is the proper action to relay his opinions back to the game designers even if he must pay international postage to airmail them to Japan. Much of his room is full of the memorabilia.

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What the fuck is this

>> No.40352710

>>40352690
Why’d you post this?

>> No.40352863

>>40352690
I remember Ciel and Akiha so sure, fine, but I'm blanking out for the other canon ones

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Shirou, did I ever tell you about the time that my knights all rebelled against me? They did it all because I was too perfect of a ruler, too stoic and unfeeling of a king. I tried to show them my Mr. Gao plushie Shirou, but they wouldn't have it. They threw me into a lake, knowing full well that I couldn't swim, and when I finally dragged myself out of there they wouldn't replace my underwear that Guinevere always needed to pick out for me. Then Lancelot fucked my wife and everyone died, you should have seen it Shirou, it was some really brutal shit.
And they were all good friends.

>> No.40353149

>Shirou, did I ever tell you about the time I grew a dick

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>> No.40353228

https://twitter.com/syk_py/status/1542321372310908928?s=21&t=gTVphLV6DAK0i-GlXlFKRg

>> No.40353275

sexo con arcueid

>> No.40353290

>>40353275
salaverga que basado

>> No.40353327

sexo con ciel

>> No.40353374

>>40353327
cringe

>> No.40353398

>>40353374
you're cringe

>> No.40353486

>>40352498
Who’s the fourth couple?

>> No.40353590

>>40352011
What is the point of Ciel in this weird position? It doesn't seem she is doing anything.

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>>40352213
I hate when these sample images look that good.

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What are your ACTUAL hot takes and unpopular Nasu opinions

>> No.40353920

>>40353486
Ann and Makoto from Persona 5

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>>40353641

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>>40353835
>Sakura is the worst TM character
>Hisui is the worst Tsukihime heroine
>Kohaku needs to be called out and doesn't deserve happiness for what she did to SHIKI, Akiha and Satsuki
>HF feels to preachy/artificial about how "dark" it is on the surface level compared to Fate and UBW but that doesn't make kt the most adult route
>Tsukihime having an actual sequel is gonna be near impossible to satisfy anyone with 6 heroines and stories. Nasu has to bite the bullet and choose one maybe 2 over the other and ignore the others for it to work or you'll get the wishy washyness of a fan disc

>> No.40354032

>>40353992
Just make two Tsukihime Sequels. One following near side and one following far. Oni Yakuza story about rising in the mortal world and dealing with demonic and inhuman conglomerates. Actually Far side could set up a Near Side sequel if it got the world ready by uniting oni or inhuman families for some uber vampire church crusade.

>> No.40354112

Stop avatarposting.

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>DMC1 and Tsukihime came out 8 months apart
>both feature large felines made of shadow/chaos that are super fast and deadly

Interesting coincidence.

>> No.40354434

>>40353992
>Sakura is the worst TM character
Really her biggest problem is that she isn't even a character in any real sense until the final third of the VN. The reader gets practically zero opportunity to grow fond of her or even know her in any sense, so asking you to care about Sakura like Shirou does, or at least empathize with his devotion towards her is asking way too much of the reader. The other heroines have plenty of emotional baggage too, but they actually exist outside their routes as well.

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>> No.40354604

>>40354434
I don't know, I always found this is a very weak reason. It seems her "problem" is that many fans used to (and still to this day) think of Fate as a servants story, they are the main attraction to it and how it is being marketed, at least by looking at Type Moon works since FSN. The more a character has a connection to servants, the more people will get invested in it. And Sakura doesn't have that, she only has a couple of lines with her servant in HF and doesn't do much HGW-related stuff, her route is even the route with almost no fights at all until the end.
Sakura is really fine in the VN, it's people perception what is muddled. Not many people come to FSN with interest in a victim character like her.
Also because I don't want to poke the wrong ideas, I don't mean that other anon or /tmg/ posters, I mean her reception in general.

>> No.40354811

>>40354604
In turn I find this line of reasoning quite weak as well. Saber's route is loved for Saber's and Shirou's relationship, UBW is also loved not because it features the cool red servant but because of the way Rin, Shirou, and Archer interact with each other. Nobody loves the servants just because they are servants, and no character is loved for the servant(s) they are associated with.

And still you don't address the issue that she quite literally doesn't exist in Fate and UBW past the prologue. She's a nonentity. Her entire character arc comes off as a kingdom hearts mystery nigga moment if you want to be really uncharitable towards her.

>> No.40354889

>>40354811
Moreover, Fate isn't exactly the most action-charged route, either. Off the top of my head, there's Saber getting rekt by Lancer, and then Berserker early on, Rider getting Excalibur'd, the showdown with Berserker, the Emiya residence ambush by Caster, Saber fighting Assassin on the steps, then the final tag team fight against Gilgamesh and Kirei. All this spread over like 40 or so hours of text.

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>>40355021

>> No.40355058

>>40353992
Who are you quoting?

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>> No.40355364

His lewdness is a great nightmare.

>> No.40355427

>>40354434
I've always read this idea and I have never found myself agreeing with it. Saber doesn't get any prior development before she's thrust into the role of a love interest for Shirou and succeeds at being a compelling one for most. Fate also barely does anything to explore Rin's character. Everything about her trying to suppress her emotions in order to live up to the magus ideal, her hedonistic streak, the insecurities and vulnerabilities she's trying to hide, etc. all come up first in UBW and a lot of her character traits explored there don't even come up in HF. The problem isn't how Sakura is handled in Fate and UBW, but how she is handled in HF herself.

Fundamentally, at the core of how Sakura is handled there is a good idea with good themes. Shirou's attraction toward her revolves in the early stages of HF of his slowly becoming more cognizant of just how much of a fixture in his life she has become. All of Day 6 is about Shirou having to confront the fact that no matter how much he would like to deny it she does indeed matter to him. It all culminates in his commenting on how he would've gone insane had she really decided to ignore him as she had wanted. It reveals that Shirou still sought and desired human connection as any other person but he nonetheless wanted to deny that very humanity. The events of HF are all about Shirou being suddenly forced to confront that humanity and seeing him break (or reconstitute himself) from the pressure. It's an interesting arc because UBW is all about Shirou becoming human thanks to the heroine as well. But in UBW, he and Rin manage to resolve Shirou's issues gradually, whereas HF brings them out at the forefront immediately. It doesn't give Shirou time to rest and really consider things. He is immediately forced with an extremely difficult dilemma. Shirou refusing to be cognizant of Sakura in the first two routes is deliberately.

Plus, the way Shirou suppresses his feelings for Sakura is similar to the way he does for Rin. When we first see her from his point of view, the first thing he says is that she has many admirers and then with some hesitation that he is one of them. This is his seeking to equate how he feels about her to how the average boy in his school does but later events reveal that her feelings for her had in fact always gone deeper than that. Like when he talks about how he wouldn't know what to believe if Rin ever gave up in the Fate route or how it's revealed Archer (who never fell in love with her) was always encouraged by example. Shirou may not be in love with either Rin or Sakura at the start, but his feelings for them aren't just a crush, they go deeper than that. But this aspect of Shirou can only be properly explored through Sakura since Shirou interacts with Rin so much in Fate and UBW that we get to see him gradually reveal his feelings on her, so it becomes difficult to separate Shirou growing fond of her over time from his admitting feelings he has always felt like with Sakura.

The real issue is that HF has too many subplots and the romance doesn't have time to breathe or get properly developed. Plus Rin vs Sakura, Illya and Kirei are all more compelling storylines.

>> No.40355535 [DELETED] 

>>40353835
>Sakura isn't as bad as everyone thinks that she is. It's mainly due to lol worms and her saying Senpai 200 times. Her other moments in HF are strong like the rain and knife scene
>Rin works better as a friend/wingman for Shirou over a romantic interest.
>HF is easily the best route in the game with it being the culmination of everything that has happened before and the conclusion of many of the character's arcs. Kirei and Illya are standout characters in this route and make it amazing. Shirou also develops and changes and is my favorite version of him.
>I may prefer F/HA to F/SN due to how great the theme and many scenes there are that develop so many characters. Angra, Baz, and Caren are also great in it.

>> No.40355593

>>40354434
Sakura is meant to be a subversion to the reader as she's portrayed as your generic kouhai that is in the normal side of Fate and isn't involved in the grail war so you can dismiss her after the grail war starts even though there are clear signs of abuse early on. It's the dark shadow that is kept hidden from the reader and only revealed in HF since it's the route where all of the truths and dark shadows are revealed to the reader. I'll agree that I think Nasu could've used her better in HF and had her stop being in bed all the time and have more conversations in general. She's meant to be a passive character that can't act on her own due to her being controlled by Zouken and others in general all her life. Her change to Dark Sakura and into being a more proactive character is meant to highlight how big of a change it is as another subversion.

>> No.40355612

/tmg/ has some of the worst takes I’ve seen yet.
I swear, you autists outdo yourselves every day.

>> No.40355627

>>40353835
Sakura isn't as bad as everyone thinks that she is. It's mainly due to lol worms and her saying Senpai 200 times. Her other moments in HF are strong like the rain and knife scene

Rin works better as a friend/wingman for Shirou over a romantic interest.

HF is easily the best route in the game with it being the culmination of everything that has happened before and the conclusion of many of the character's arcs. Kirei and Illya are standout characters in this route and make it amazing. Shirou also develops and changes and is my favorite version of him.

I may prefer F/HA to F/SN due to how great the theme and many scenes there are that develop so many characters. Angra, Baz, and Caren are also great in it.

>> No.40355779

The thing I hate about Sakura is that I can't look at her as a real rape victim which is supposedly the core point of her character.
She has great moments other than that and she is the perfect foil for Shirou in HF.

>> No.40355913

>>40355627
>Rin works better as a friend/wingman for Shirou over a romantic interest.
That's really gay and I've never understood this mindset. You can dislike the Rin/Shirou romance all you want (even if your taste is shit) but there is always a romantic undercurrent to all of Rin and Shirou's interactions. HF constantly lambshades the unconsumated nature of their feelings for one another. Their dynamic and personal relations are fundamentally romantic, which is why their relationship in Fate and HF lacks much depth if you don't bring in the fact that the two can and do in certain timelines become a pair, like how her being okay with his entering a romantic relationship with either Saber or Sakura despite the depth of her own feelings for him sheds light on just how selfless the supposed selfish magus Rin is, or how Shirou still can't help but gush over Rin even when he doesn't fall for her. Without that romantic dynamic, touched upon outside of UBW but developed most thoroughly there, Rin and Shirou's relationship has the depth of a puddle.

>>40355612
What do you mean, anon?

>> No.40356079

>>40355913
>What do you mean, anon?
Is it not obvious? Upon seeing this most recent argument, I came to the conclusion that the taste of /tmg/ is in fact, shit.

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>>40355913
You're so based Rinbro

>> No.40356136

Hello there, /tmg/!
Y’see, some days ago, I felt the need to request aid of you in my predicament with having feelings for someone as wicked as Kohaku.
Your advice on how to proceed was indeed appreciated, and the two of us have had a talk.

I feel happy to announce, she is looking after achieving a proper medical license using her years serving Makihisa as experience.
She’ll be serving as a doctor or at the very least a nurse soon.
I thank you for the aid, thanks to it, she’s in the path to become a well and truly better person. (She was very cheerful at the prospect)

I will keep you updated on future developments.

>> No.40356142

>>40355913
It’s mainly due to Rin being an independent kind of character that live her life without Shirou and be fine with it. Her romantic moments with Shirou just aren’t as strong as the others and don’t have the same weight as Saber’s or drama like Sakura’s. It’s a normal and fine romance, but it’s not that engaging for me. That’s not to discredit her character as she’s good and I find it more interesting to see her being fine with and even supporting Shirou as a wingman in Saber’s route. You don’t see that often and with no drama at all about it. It shows how mature Rin is and how much of a good friend she is to Shirou. They can work well as a mentor and student without romance since they’re characters with depth that don’t only have to rely on romance. I also feel that the UBW route is more of the Archer route then anything else so there isn’t much focus on their romance which makes it the weakest to me.

>> No.40356158

>>40356142
that can live her life* Sorry for the typos, it’s early in them morning so I woke up recently and feel drowsy.

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>> No.40356185

tl;dr fatefags, maybe stop forcing repetitive discussion whenever you're bored, /tmg/ is supposed to be slow and comfy. multiple paragraphs of the same old tired dross belongs on /a/.

>> No.40356215

>>40356136
That’s great. Happy for you two. Hope the both of your find happiness. Just watch out for a flat chested little sister that may take issue with all of this.

>> No.40356323

>>40356136
Most important thing, remember to return the ribbon to the right girl.

>> No.40356338

>>40356215
Which… flat chested little sister…?
Hmmm, I ought to have seen someone like that, maybe in a picture?

Well, in any case, thank you for the warning, I’ll keep watch for anyone that looks like that, and if Kohaku looks bothered, I’ll be sure to ask her about it.

>> No.40356411

>>40356323
Don’t worry, anon, I won’t give the ribbon to anyone else.

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>>40356338
Here, I took a quick pic.

>> No.40356517

>>40356435
Hmmm, most definitely I’ve seen her somewhere, I just can’t remember *where*.
I’ll look around to see if it was in an old photo or what, maybe it’s somewhere in Kohaku’s stuff.

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Man I loved R07’s Tsukihime!

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>> No.40356698

>>40356631
Leave Hisui alone gay bitch

>> No.40357280

>>40355913
>>40356142
>Nasu: I will say that Rin was my favourite character when I was writing the story. Rin is like Aoko in so many aspects that it felt good to write Rin's story. Of course, Rider showed up shortly after that and everything went to hell.

>Takeuchi: I think Rin is a character who is all about potential. Maybe that's why I'm only truly appreciating her now. Saber felt so complete right from the start, and the poetic beauty of her pairing with Shirou only added to the perfection. In Rin's case, however, a lot of events and situations like that whole London deal kept bringing out new sides of her that we hadn't previously seen. She makes you think about what "potential" really means, in a variety of ways. For example, if we were to do a spin-off story for Saber that took place in the Knights of the Round Table era, we still wouldn't be able to disband or do without the pairing of Saber and Shirou. That combination is just so complete that it's hard to adapt it to totally different situations. Rin, on the other hand, is more of a free agent because her relationship with Shirou doesn't define her in any way. Of course we have the Archer/Rin pairing, but a Lancer/Rin pairing would work out just as well and be just as good in its own way. We could even set up a story where Rin and Luvia are fighting over Shirou. In this way, I feel like Rin has earned her place as a face of the "Fate" series right alongside Saber.

>> No.40357434

>>40357280
>if we were to do a spin-off story for Saber that took place in the Knights of the Round Table era, we still wouldn't be able to disband or do without the pairing of Saber and Shirou
Aged like milk

>> No.40357597

>>40357280
>>40357434
Why does Shirou x Saber get so much hate?

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I love Shiki/Ciel

>> No.40357654

>>40357609
I know people like to hate on Ciel and all that, but if you really think about it, she's not a bad person. Ciel is the perfect combination between a lover and a good friend for Shiki.

In the VN, Ciel is consistently the only character that is shown to be competent, assured, and benign. She is consistently the only character Shiki can trust. She is, consistently, the only character that knows what she's doing, and is willing to help Shiki. When Shiki is babbling around like the retard he so often is in the VN, Ciel is always here to reassure him, help him get back on his feet, and is just a great human bean in general.

Ciel was a secretive mask-upon-mask character and becomes unpredictable because of how often she switches between them even though Ciel acts completely independent from Shiki and the rest of Tsukihime's plot. The umbrella scene where Ciel finds Shiki in the rain and he has nowhere to go, so she takes him to her apartment and help him get back to his regular self. That scene is also triggered by having Shiki face reality instead of denying that it happened and having him believe that it was just a dream.

Ciel was cool as hell, with Ciel running up the wall and attacking from the fucking CEILING and Shiki can’t help but be honest and think of it as “charmingly beautiful”.

Ciel doesn't fit into a shallow archetype, her personalty and actions are strongly motivated, the pacing of her arc was great, the true ending landed the bittersweet vibe.

Ciel definitely had the best chemistry with Shiki out of all the other girls. Shiki and Ciel are literally like a married couple from the very start of the VN.

Now ufo just needs a passionate Ciel fan to be as good as Sudou and make the Tsukihime anime, and we might clear the stigma around her as well.

>> No.40357699

>>40357654
>as good as Sudou

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>>40357654
Yeah. It's funny how Shiki/Ciel used to be my least favorite pairing in the old Tsukihime, but after reading the remake they became one of my favorite Type-Moon pairings alongside Shirou/Rin and Shirou/Saber. They have a really interesting dynamic early on and i really enjoyed seeing them fighting together agaisn't Vlov.

>> No.40357818

>>40353835
Illya didn't need a route. Not everything is about sex. Any incest would've made Illya and Shirou's relationship and characters worse.

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>>40357818
What do you think of kino scenes like that one then?

>> No.40357889

>>40357818
>Not everything is about sex.
low T

>> No.40357916

>>40357877
Cute siblings.

>> No.40357980

>>40357818
Agreed. Could never see it happening due to all the great scenes they’ve had together as brother and sister. Their relationship is already as perfect as it can be for siblings. Her role in HF is also perfect.

>> No.40358015

https://twitter.com/mtkr_oekaki/status/1542513256031752193?s=21&t=INr4nXSKWQPOLcHIAmWm5Q

>> No.40358063

https://twitter.com/miokalaurant/status/1542513082273918976?s=21&t=INr4nXSKWQPOLcHIAmWm5Q

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seeing shiki and ciel together always makes me smile like a retard

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>>40358084
Same, anon

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>>40358157

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>> No.40358352

Today is the final day of gay. No more gay after today.

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>> No.40358357

>>40358343
Hot

>> No.40358365

>>40358343
Why is this so hot?

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>>40358352
How should we end the last day of gay?

>> No.40358425

>>40358375
With the last gay OP. Post your candidate couples.

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>> No.40358634

>>40356698
She needs maid titty, and Kohaku is gone for the day...

>> No.40358650

>>40356631
Why are homos so rapey?

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>Lies. You have Arcueid, Nii-san. She's beautiful, and her body, too... extremely appealing...
What did Akiha mean by this?

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>>40358668
She still has nightmares about this moment.

>> No.40358692

>>40358668
It's just a very popular and cunning tactic to make herself look inferior and push Shiki to tell her that she is better, which is what happened In that fanfic.

>> No.40358754

>>40358650
Homosexuals enjoy rape energy. Heterosexuals tend not to.

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>>40358668
>arcueid is a fatso

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How things should have been

>> No.40358808

>>40358754
To be fair, that art was made by a very open yurifag.

>> No.40358821

>>40358804
I would use this as the next OP, but there is an Arthur/Shirou OP already.

>> No.40358829

>>40356142
Dunno man different strokes for different people and all but UBW is the most consistently romantic route of the three throughout. Whereas Fate has the romance only kick off toward the end and really get going with the date and the bridge scene, and in HF the romance has to compete with space with all sorts of other storylines (which can be a problem if you find the other stuff way more interesting), the romantic development in UBW is spread evenly throughout. It does an excellent job of peeling back the layers of both Shirou and Rin thanks to their mutual interactions. Bloodfort in UBW is excellent because up to that point Rin had been the ultracompetent mage prodigy and Shirou the dunce who is lost without everyone else's help. Bloodfort suddenly has Rin acting out of sorts as Shirou keeps his cool, revealing something about both characters, simultaneously showing Rin's vulnerabilities and Shirou's trauma while deepening their bond. Then there's kino like Shirou's defect. It's fine if you prefer the Archer stuff over the romantic stuff (even though you can't separate the two, they're deeply intertwined) but to say UBW doesn't focus on the romance is just dumb to me. I think Sakura's romance is fucking dogshit but I always try to judge it objectively. When people say they prefer the two as friends, it just makes me think they didn't pay attention or want to get because it doesn't suit their taste. Whether you like the romance or not, the depth is still there.

>>40357280
I think Takeuchi is full of shit.

>> No.40358908

>>40357280
Taekuchi here sounds like the average waifufag who loves her too much (he even started with "She is too perfect from the start"), and in a position where he has to say something nice about another love interest but ends up talking shit instead.
Much respect to the guy, probably would have done something similar myself without noticing.

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Purple love!

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clae

>> No.40359037

>>40358998
is clae gae?

>> No.40359072

https://twitter.com/mb_lumina/status/1542453808458252288?s=21&t=INr4nXSKWQPOLcHIAmWm5Q

>> No.40359117

>>40359037
yes

>> No.40359238

Nasu on HF True:

It (Normal End) was the only conclusion considered at the time. However, after writing about 2/3 of it, I found that the story itself did not allow such a conclusion. After that, I wrote the original conclusion, and then followed the story and write the happy end. Since this was Shirou's tale of happiness after losing so much, even if Saber and Illya were lost, at least he should let Sakura achieve happiness. And this was the conclusion. Even though Sakura indirectly became a mass murderer, there was no reason to deny her of happiness. I came up with this idea that if one were alive, it was not bad to redeem him/herself while looking forward to happiness. Even though this was hypocrisy, I felt that the story itself strongly demanded this possibility. To be honest, it was the first time that I lost to the story I wrote.

Nasu: Yes, its plot was created with porn in mind.

Takeuchi: The image of those worms became too strongly attached to Sakura, and I think we did a pretty mean thing to her. ...We're making "Fate/hollow ataraxia" now, but even in that, there's been talk of how it'll be hard to dispel Sakura's negative image...

Nasu: Aww, I don't think there's any need to dispel it, though. Isn't it alright for worms to just be part of Sakura?

>> No.40359276

Don't make up stuff, faggot.
Only the first paragraph is what was said, and the second one is questionable, but was from another interview not related to the first. The rest is your retarded shitposting.

>> No.40359291

>>40359238
>>40359276
Source: Fate/secret book(フェイト/シークレットブック)

>> No.40359314

>>40359238
>>40359291
>Source: Fate/secret book(フェイト/シークレットブック)

>Q: In the first month of 2004 Fate went on sale. What was the reaction to it like?
>Takeuchi: They seemed to really like it, which made us very happy.
>Nasu: It was a title we believed in, so seeing it sell well gave us a lot of confidence. The reactions to it were both good and, in some cases, a little hollow. It was a victory that was both satisfying and hollow.
>Takeuchi: He's speaking of the Sakura route. A lot of people were disatisfied with it. Hence, the hollow feeling.
>Nasu: Yes, although recently more people are warming up to it. When it first came out, people were so excited and pleased by the Saber and Rin routes that they expected to keep proceeding down the royal road. The Sakura route is not like that at all, and they had trouble accepting that when it first appeared. We learned a lot from that experience.

>After the release of the original game, how was the response to HF?
>After I had finished writing the scenario, I had a feeling of completion and thought "I've cleared a difficult task!", but after having received far more reactions and response to it than I had imagined or expected, I felt that I was able to learn a lot from it.
>To be precise, which kinds of reactions do you remember the most, Nasu-san?
>I felt that users want feel-good stories more than anything else. If you play Fate and UBW, you get to taste feel-good storytelling for roughly 40 hours. So I felt that there was no need for HF to be a feel-good story after all that, but then I learned that apparently not all users feel the same way. I reflected on this greatly, and came to the conclusion that for some works, it's okay to aim for being feel-good all the way through. I believe that if it weren't for my reflection back then, Type Moon wouldn't be the way it is today.

>> No.40359323

>English interview quotes
I'm sure like half of this is mistranslated anyway.

>> No.40359347

>>40358804
>>40359238
>>40359314
HF didn't have the yaoi appeal that UBW had, which is why UBW is the most popular route.

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>>40359347
Kotomine and Shirou.

>> No.40359473

>>40359238
>Isn't it alright for worms to just be part of Sakura?
Finally someone found that part of the interview and posted it.

>> No.40359593

>>40359473
It sounds so fake honestly. Looking at the whole interview that doesn't feel like Nasu and Takeuchi at all.

>> No.40359632
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>>40359593
Nasu and Takeuchi are perverts at heart

>> No.40359640

>>40359593
>>40359632
Burgers?

> 武内:桜ルートは、やってることは全てのルートの中で最も派手なのに何故か一番地味な印象を持たれてしまってるんですよね。
> テーマが難解なのと、ヒロインが地味だったからというのがあると思うんですが。

> 奈須:桜ルートの後日談が奇を衒いすぎたと感じている部分があって、
> あそこはもっとストレートにやるべきだったと今でも反省しています。

> 坂上:桜ルートの場合は純粋なハッピーエンドという感じではないですよね。
> 他の作品も含めて、奈須さんはハッピーエンドという概念についてはどのように考えていらっしゃいますか。

> 奈須:そこは凄くシンプルですね。初めにこういう物語を書こうと決めて、
> 登場人物がこのテーマで動くなら最終的にはこうなるだろうとイメージする。本当にそれだけなんですよ。
> 実のところ、桜ルートはノーマルエンドが当然の終わり方だと最初は思っていたんです。
> プロットの段階ではノーマルエンドがトゥルーエンドになっていました。

> 坂上:ノーマルというのは、桜が帰ってこない士郎をおばあちゃんになっても待ち続けるというエンドですよね。

> 奈須:そうです。当時はそれしか考えていなかったんですが、三分の二まで書いた辺りで、奈須きのこの欲望とは別に、
> 物語の方がこの締め方を許してくれないんじゃないかと思ったんです。
> それで、ラストシーンまで書いてみて、そこで想定していたエンドにするか、物語の流れのままハッピーエンドにするかを決めることにしました。
> 結局、これは士郎が色々なものを失った後で人間的な幸せを得る話だから、
> セイバーやイリヤが消えることになろうとも桜は幸せにならないといけないな、というところに着地しました。
> 彼女は間接的にとはいえ大量殺人を犯してしまっているけれど、それで幸せになっちゃいけないというのはやはりおかしい。
> 人間が生きていくのならば、罪の償いをしながらも同時に幸せを目指したっていいはずだと考えるようになりました。
> それが偽善に映ったとしても、この物語はそれを求めてるはずだと強く感じたんですね。
> いや、正直に言うと、自分の書いた物語の(無言の)圧力に負けるというのは初めての経験でした。

https://ikura.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/anichara2/1339127803/555

>> No.40359687

>>40359640
>> 彼女は間接的にとはいえ大量殺人を犯してしまっているけれど、それで幸せになっちゃいけないというのはやはりおかしい。
>> 人間が生きていくのならば、罪の償いをしながらも同時に幸せを目指したっていいはずだと考えるようになりました。
>> それが偽善に映ったとしても、この物語はそれを求めてるはずだと強く感じたんですね。
Ciel...

>> No.40359695

>>40359640
That's a different interview. No worms jokes or "IT'S PORN" in this one.

>> No.40359697

>>40359593
>Looking at the whole interview that doesn't feel like Nasu and Takeuchi at all.

Cope

>> No.40359719

>>40359695
>桜ルートの後日談が奇を衒いすぎたと感じている部分があって、 あそこはもっとストレートにやるべきだったと今でも反省しています。
>I kind of feel that the later parts of the Sakura route were too pretentious, and regret even now that I didn't tell the story in a more straightforward way.

HF was basically "FEEL BAD FOR SAKURA". It was the next thing after the other.
>Nasu: This happened to Sakura. You should need bad.
>reader: "oh damn, that is b.."
>Nasu: also this happened to her
>reader: "that's dar.."
>Nasu: also she go raped and this and that and all of this too. Feed bad for her YET??? YOU SHOULD
>reader: " ....isn't this a bit mu"
>Nasu: WORMS!!!

>> No.40359758

>>40359719
>後日談
>later parts

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>>40359687

>> No.40359774

>>40359719
lol no, that isn't what he means here. He just meant that he thinks the shadow parts and Kirei's half-truths expositions had left the readers confused and wishes he was straight forward.
Sakura being pitiful has nothing to do with that.

>> No.40359778

>>40359771
ciel?

>> No.40359791

Why is Nasu ashamed of HF?

>"It's like when you write - when you're younger, you look back on [previous work] and you think 'Oh, goodness what was I thinking,'" Nasu explained. "It's not that I'm embarrassed, I just don't like to look at my previous works."
>Nasu: When I wrote Kara no Kyoukai, I felt resistance towards so many things—society, entertainment, culture—and it was my motivation to write the story. Now, I am thrilled to be writing from a place of gratitude, though with just a touch of sadness. It feels like the old Nasu Kinoko has passed on. I suppose you could say I've gone under a heavy detox, and feel much more virtuous now (laughs).

>> No.40359794

>>40359719
Burgers not being good at reading comprehension. Why am I not surprised?

>> No.40359808

Why do you retards keep asking stupid questions? Have you not read any other books by authors that tell people that they regret their previous works due to how critical they are of their own works especially if they’re early works? Nasuverse fans are some of the stupidest people on this site.

>> No.40359819

>>40359808
Seems like the return of the gook. He is the one who used to ask these stupid questions.

>> No.40359823

>>40359808
I assume it's because they get responses like this.

>> No.40359850

>>40359808
I feel like it's the same guy.

>> No.40359879

>>40359632
Nasu lies regarding whatever statement he's currently making. Nasu even used to brag that everything he says is a lie.

Just remember when UBW and FGO were just coming out and Nasu and takeuchi were both
>Nasu: Actually my waifu is rin, I just never told anyone this ever for some reason
>Takeuchi: And my waifu is Mashu. What? Saber? No way

They're both shills by nature, they change their story so much based on who's asking at the moment, and who they're trying to wank. You can disregard 90% of what he says

>Kinoko: Actually, the twenty-seven Ancestors didn’t become the twenty-seven Ancestors in the Fate universe.

>Authors: ……………!!!!???? (All freeze, speechless)

>Kinoko: Only the Tsukihime universe allows for them to become the twenty-seven Ancestors. On that note, doesn’t Tsukihime not have the sort of extremely powerful familiars like Servants?

>Sanda: What about CM—!?

>Kinoko: That thing gets destroyed because of the destruction of the Human Order. Oh, also, Narita’s Fake is different, because it’s a special middle ground between the two.

>Narita: O-Oh, uh, t-thanks…?

>Kinoko: But Sanda’ll have to pay attention for the Case Files. It’s kind of a long story, but this part in Tsukihime R….

>Sanda: Waitwaitwait! Kinoko, wait! Please first organize some notes about this for everyone!

>Kinoko: Come on… so annoying. Speaking of which, this pizza’s pretty good.

>Higashide: Oh ho ho, either way, my work is already done, so take your time.

>Sakurai (carefully): …It also seems to not affect me at the moment, huh.

>> No.40359881

You are supposed to feel bad for everyone by the end of HF. Zouken, Kirei, Justeaze, Shinji, Claudia, Sakura, Angra, Everybody. The grail system is incredibly fucked up.

>> No.40359887

>>40359881
imagine telling 4chan to feel bad for a rape victim. That's a herculean effort.

>> No.40359950

>>40359887
I mean, she doesn't feel like a real rape victim for me to feel bad about her.
I don't know about a rape victim who looks that good. The worms are supposed to tear her skin and leave marks and yet she seems to have a very fair skin. She is a character who was written to be a rape victim while simultaneously was written to be an eroge heroine, meaning that she is supposed to be looked at as a waifu and have erotica dedicated to her, and these two elements don't mix together well.
I hate the shitposting against her, but I don't think people should be ashamed of not feeling bad for a rape victim that doesn't look like one.

>> No.40359996

Are we being raided or something? Why are there more autists than normal today?

>> No.40359997

>>40359879
>>Nasu: Actually my waifu is rin, I just never told anyone this ever for some reason
Hasn't he always said Rin is his favourite though?

>> No.40360006

>>40359950
I mean she's realistic in wanting to hide her past and feeling like it's her fault that the abuse happened. Also her submissive nature and wanting to keep her regular days going is also realistic. Nasu's writing about Shriou's shame in not noticing it sooner and Rider asking if Shirou knows what Sakura is going through is also great writing for the issue. People don't give Nasu enough credit for writing this topic with a deft hand and not going too far by showing the rape or the worm stuff like in botched examples like Muv Luv and SAO. That shit goes way over the top unlike F/SN. I know the response to this will be lol worms, but whatever, I found Sakura's abuse storyline to be done well and her response to the problem to feel natural.

>> No.40360042

>>40360006
Oh, yes, it makes sense for her on her mental/psychological state, I am not arguing against that. I meant her state physically, specially with stuff like the worms and poisoning don't match what my eyes perceive at all. What makes it worse is that at some point of the story when she turns into Dark Sakura, she starts blaming others for not helping her, even though how she looks doesn't reflect anything over the top happening her.
It's similar case to Holloywood and how they treat depression while actors are wearing make up. Makes it less believable.

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>>40359996
people just never learn I guess

>> No.40360067

>>40360042
I see what you mean. That' a good point. Probably due to them running out of time or not thinking to deeply about it visual-wise. Would've liked to see a more damaged Sakura given how awful her life sounded. Some bandages all over her body would've helped.

>> No.40360081

>>40360006
>>40360042
Sakura gets written out of the story midway through Fate and UBW, and the whole truth about everything comes out only in HF. Nasu wrote this story as a gigantic bait and switch. No wonder that the people who liked the bait will hate the switch.

Sakura also can't be rescued because of the situation she is in. It took an extraordinary set of circumstances for her to be rescued in HF, including her being able to regenerate her own heart after blowing a hole through it. Those circumstances just can't happen in any other route. Nasu kept the other characters ignorant of her circumstances for that reason. Sakura can only be happy in her own route, and not even then if she's left alone without her senpai.

As for her possibly coming into a happy ending, you have to accept that it's impossible in Fate and UBW. You can ignore it, you can seethe about it and make yourself believe that she deserves it, but there's a point to the story being written like that. There are costs to being a Hero of Justice. Saving one person means not saving another. This is the lesson that Kiritsugu failed to teach Shirou, and a main reason this story is not just another generic battle shounen with a generic "I want to save everyone and I will succeed because I'm the protagonist" protagonist like UBW.

>> No.40360094

>>40360042
I went to see Fruits Basket Prelude last night and they did an amazing job showing Kyoko's near catatonic prolonged depression state and appearance following Katsuya's sudden death.

>> No.40360120

If Sakura doesn't get saved the world is going to have major problems.

>> No.40360168

>>40360081
uhh...what does that have to do with what I wrote?

>> No.40360179

>>40360120
Why wasn't Kohaku as divisive as Sakura?

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>>40360067
>Some bandages all over her body would've helped
They were very late to think about that

>> No.40360185

>>40360181
the fuck is that? Get that gross shit out of here.

>> No.40360192

>>40360185
>the fuck is that? Get that gross shit out of here.

Nasu's magnum opus.

>> No.40360194

>>40360179
Nobody cared about Kohaku.

>> No.40360203

>>40360185
She looks better than Passionlip at least.

>> No.40360220

>>40360203
at least the claws bitch didn't roll around in dirt. Man these Sakura face designs are dumb. Glad I don't give a shit about that garbage.

>> No.40360226

>>40360081
>Nasu wrote this story as a gigantic bait and switch. No wonder that the people who liked the bait will hate the switch.
You need to stop using this as an excuse. It’s not the bait that causes people to hate the switch, it’s the fact that the switch happens over a character who is practically a stranger due to her not being involved. I can promise you, if the switch happened over say Illya, then the controversy would be far less prevalent, she people know and probably are attached in some capacity to her.

HF was written in such a way that Nasu wanted players to stick to beliefs, if that means supporting the idea of a hero (after we just played a route where it’s not only possible to become one, but actually be a successful one with the right support) then that works as well. After seeing that interview where Nasu wants you to stick to your belief set, you realize the bait was never bait at all, but rather a real path that could lead to our protagonist not only fulfilling his dreams, but finding happiness too. A hero of justice is not a fabrication in the world of fate, it’s something that can be achieved, albeit at a cost (which Shirou realizes in UBW)
>Fate. Ends up in a literal paradise and lives a content and satisfying life
>UBW. Loves the life of a hero with support from Rin, and has the correct mindset

You’re correct about not being able to save everyone, but people choosing others over Sakura isn’t wrong, nor should it be looked down upon. In fact, due to how late in the game she’s presented, people actually just reinforced their opinions on the other two routes, and chose them over Heavens Feel when it came to preference.

There’s is absolutely nothing wrong with choosing Fate or UBW as the desired path. They weren’t ever bait in the first place, especially considering how Shirou ends up in them.

People generally disliked HF due to its manipulative guilt trip nature, where it became obviously apparent that Nasu wanted you to feel great sympathy for a character you haven’t got the chance to get attached too. It tried to force you, the reader, to become attached to someone you don’t know, then choose that person over everything else. It was an extremely poor writing choice.

The main takeaway is that you shouldn’t discredit the other two routes as bait, not when they’re valid and give Shirou solid answers. And if that means Sakura is fucked, then so be it, some people would choose to save others over her, and that’s something you’ll have to accept.

>> No.40360251

>>40360226
smart post. It's funny how people are so opposed to trying to save Sakura when it's Shirou's dream to save someone unconditionally like Kiritsugu saved him in the day of the fire. Shirou is happy to save Sakura no matter what. It's part of his ideal. Also answers the question Archer gave of what it means to truly 'save' someone. An unconditional kind of salvation that Sakura receives is true salvation for someone that was alone in the world for so long.

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>>40360179
Kohaku route doesn't directly negatively affect other characters as much or seem like something Shiki wouldn't do if he knew he could. Kohaku was the girl he was looking for the whole time anyway after all.

>> No.40360292

>>40360266
>Kohaku was the girl he was looking for the whole time anyway after all.

Arc/Ciel?

>> No.40360294

>/tmg/ autism even higher than usual somehow
Why can't you faggots just enjoy all the routes? It's not that hard. They're all well-written.

>> No.40360306

ciel wife

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>> No.40360312

>>40360294
There is some falseflagging and shitposting making people react that way.
It's ok. Tsuki translation is coming soon and people will find something to talk about.

>> No.40360318

>>40360292
With the ribbon. He was looking to give the girl her ribbon back for all of Far Side. When he does successfully, good things ultimately happen and it's a psuedo far side golden ending with all the girls living and (slight) resolution to the SHIKI stuff

>> No.40360327

>>40360294
and that's why Tsukihime will always be superior. It has the better and smarter fans.

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>>40360327
Fate is shounen and Tsukihime is seinen

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>>40360334
>Fate is shounen
Hmmm, sweaty...

>> No.40360380

Reminder that Zero LNs being a juggernaut is what lead to FGO being produced

>Iwakami: It started off with Aniplex working with Type-Moon to bring Fate to anime form with Fate/Zero. And not just the Fate series. In 2007, we did The Garden of Sinners movies. After we were done with Fate/Zero, we were talking with Takeshi Takeuchi of Type-Moon about a new way to develop Fate, and a smartphone game was one of the ideas that we came up with. So Type-Moon started working on Fate/Grand Order as one of the official numbered titles in the Fate series.

>Takeuchi: Many anime studios wanted to make Fate/Zero into an anime, but as far as actually doing that, I couldn't feel very excited about the idea. It was a story that came into being out of the love and respect that Urobuchi-san had for Fate/stay night, and was designed to deepen the enjoyment a reader could get out of Fate. Adapting it into an anime might mean stepping on that love, and I didn't want to make something that didn't capture the feeling of the original novels.

>Nasu: Many anime fans want there to be a lot of cute bishoujo characters in the work, and while they work hard to meet those needs, Iwakami, an important producer at Aniplex, wasn't satisfied just by doing that. I suggested that he tackle Fate/Zero, a dark and serious story full of raw emotion. He had the resolve, and that's how they ended up adapting Fate/Zero.

Context for this: Iwakami turned down to adapt FSN because he didn't want to adapt a bishoujo harem series, so Nasu proposed Zero. Nasu gave Iwakami the F/Z LN which convinced him to pick him up as the writer for Madoka, he had to channel his old edge because that's what Iwakami asked for. You'll notice UBW was changed to follow Zero mood too, with all Saber's waifu scenes modified and portrayed as Shirou's surrogate "mom"

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It's just bait from/a/ ignore it. The posts in here are exactly the same. It's that loser Wormfag that can't accept that the other 2 routes exist and Fate isn't a shitty romance manga like domestic girlfriend where their girl is the "winner"
>>>/a/239593932

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>>40360439
based detective ciel

>> No.40360475

>>40359368
okay but why is Shirou blushing?

>> No.40360482

>>40360380
Fate Stay Night was extremely popular even before Zero.

>> No.40360485

>>40360181
Is Fox Tail good?

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>/tmg/ is so used to shitposting that they think discussing the VNs counts as "bait" or "being raided"
Big yikes.

>> No.40360529

>>40360523
>Looks at the level of the “discussion”

Yeah, sure buddy.

>> No.40360549

>>40360529
It's a bit of a mixed bag sure, but people made some quite lengthy and insightful posts despite some obvious bait and shitposting.

>> No.40360563

>>40360529
Long posts are good actually imo. You can attempt to convey thoughts and ideas longer than FGO bad sometimes

>> No.40360571

>>40360529
>>40360563
This
I don't see how this is possibly worse than "F/GO bad!" or the usual /vg/-tier coomer discussion.

>> No.40360575

>>40360475
He is a cock devouring homosexual

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>>40360472
Let's post more Ciel

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>>40360334
The OG Tsukihime only lacked the shounen elements because Nasu lacked the budget or experience to add them to the story.
On the other hand, the Remake goes full shounen.

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>>40360586

>> No.40360600
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Why do Cielfaggots hate any kind of discussion that's not just image dumping?

>> No.40360603

>>40360594
Having big or large scale fights does not classify something as shounen.

>> No.40360627

>>40360594
>>40360603
I don't even think FSN is that "shounen" really.

>> No.40360634

>>40360603
Large scale fights are very shounen

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>>40360597
I love her so much

>> No.40360665

>>40360600
it's better than the rest of the garbage being posted here.

>> No.40360671

>>40360600
>discussion
>this thread

>> No.40360691

>>40360634
Shonen is not when the fighting is good. Shonen usually has good internal combat mechanics and choreography because Battle Shonen has to have cool fights but that doesn't make something Shonen or not. Tsukihime was always supposed to have good fights, some of the early ones just kinda fell short

>> No.40360696

>>40360600
I'm talking right now leave me alone

>> No.40360697

>>40360665
>>40360671
delusional, as expected from dumb coomers.

>> No.40360717

>>40360634
Tsukihime is not like a battle shounen at all. If you think "action = shounen", then you're just retarded unfortunately. FSN is sort of shounen-like with Shirou's attitude and all, but I don't personally find the actual story to be much like a typical battle shounen.

>> No.40360732

>>40360691
The sense of scale in the original near side is abysmal. No one feels as powerful as they're supposed to be. Everyone feels like some low level street punk. After i read the manga and remake it made me realise what was off about the original that I couldn't quite put into words

>> No.40360741

>>40360627
FSN is chuuni as hell. I didn't notice until I once saw some lines from a shonen series out of context and mistook it for some of Shirou's monologues. Not really a bad thing though, might even be part of the appeal.

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>>40360639
ciel is great

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>>40360732
Yeah, that's a big thing. No one really goes over building level on screen, which makes it very hard to tell how strong people are. Ciel in the original was basically as strong featwise as Noel is now minus durability, so they made Noel and gave her all the street level screens.

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>>40360747
So true

>> No.40360778

>>40360741
Chuuni =/= Shonen
Tsukihime was always very chuuni. At least as much as Fate

>> No.40360780

>>40360741
Chuuni != shounen

>> No.40360789
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>>40360775
very, very true.

>> No.40360821

>>40360671
Personally I find >>40354811, >>40355427, >>40357654, >>40358829, >>40360006, >>40360042 and >>40360226 to all be solid and well-argued posts even if I don't agree with all they have to say anon. Just because a fag started spamming interviews doesn't mean these anons efforts are immediately invalidated.

>> No.40360839

>>40360821
don't reply to obvious trolls

>> No.40360842

Since we are all staying our opinions in this thread, I like Fate route and Shirou and Saber’s relationship best. I think it’s an incredibly built romance.

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>>40360789
I cant wait for her scale figure. It makes me so happy that Ciel will receive such a high quality figure and I'll have a chance to buy it

>> No.40360910

>>40354387
Its a reference to Banel II like how Shiki is. Its just they referenced it at the same time.

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>>40360888
same.

>> No.40360921

>>40352289
Its not Wada's Fault. Its Nasu's. And his achieved dream of Amari done properly outside a Drama CD. Shes just following his orders.

>> No.40360927

>>40360921
I hope that bitch is not on the Extra remake.

>> No.40360937

>>40360842
I love the romance in Fate but not much of anything else. I love everything in HF but dislike the romance. UBW is the complete package for me. The romance is great and ties perfectly with Shirou's conflict with Archer, the stuff with Medea provides a perfect plot structure in which Shirou, Rin and Archer's arcs to occur in, etc.

I definitely think the Fate route is one only a Saberfag could like. It's a weakness and a strength IMO.

>> No.40360942

>>40360842
Their romance is beautiful. The whole "sword/sheath" thing is so good

>> No.40360945

>>40360937
I meant to say love not like. Adore rather. I don't see a Rinfag or a Sakurafag saying the like Fate best but I can definitely see either saying they like HF or UBW respectively (...though that applies to the former a whole lot more than the latter).

>> No.40360953

>>40360927
....knowing Nasu who refused to let Tachie die so kept her in his heart revived the concept as Mashu? That Nasu? You think he will not put her in Remake to show the World what she can be? This is Nasu we are talking bout. We must accept what he will do. For his own sick pleasure

>> No.40360955

Also the second Fate route H-scene was both cute and hot.
Good shit.

>> No.40360962

I WANT TO HAVE STRAIGHT CONSENSUAL SEX WITH A_____

>> No.40360970

>>40360962
/tmg/ girl!

>> No.40360979

>>40360962
cat

>> No.40360985

>>40360962
Sword

>> No.40360990

>>40360842
I don't like Saber's romance as much as most people. Probably because the first few days of the route are awful and there was unnecessary tension between Shirou and Saber that made their relation awkward. They get better once they fight Rider, and become great after Gil shows up, but still the first few days made me somewhat averse to it. I still like it overall however.

>> No.40361001

gay consensual sex with archer!

>> No.40361003

>>40360937
Honestly, I don't even think it's a problem of it being weak in plot. There are definetely some great moments in it, after all.
The first time Shinji unleashes Blood Fort in the school, and mocks Shirou over how Taiga begged for him to help the students and he just kicked her, and the "bye Shinji" scene. The first fight against assasin, having Berserker as an antagonist, Gilgamesh being the closest he always was to a character (in FSN, at least), Kerry reveal, Saber's identity being a mystery, Saber screaming Excalibur for the first time.

But I will absolutely concede that its plot has weaknesses, Assasin getting offscreened, Gil coming out of nowhere (there was *one* mention to the 4th war's Archer, and that was his only presence outside the prologue), since in the other routes, we at least already know he is there. Archer being kind of unresolved, Kirei not having as much development, Illiya not having a very propper conclusion, and it can go on.

>> No.40361008

>>40360334
Then why is there so many stupid gook tier power level posting with Tsukihime instead of narrative discussion like other Seinin?

>> No.40361016

>>40360937
I enjoy all the FSN pairings equally, since they're absolutely good. Shirou/Saber is beautiful, Shirou/Rin is refreshing and fun, Shirou x Sakura is tragic and sometimes comfy. But I can't say the same about Tsukihime, since I don't really enjoy the romance there, except for one or two pairings.

>> No.40361017

>>40361008
you weren't supposed to point that out...

>> No.40361028

>>40360192
Nasu's Giantess Fetish is Immortal.
Oh btw I had this idea that Nasu may have made Altera cause he couldnt do Kingprotea in Original release of CCC. Cause they share a lot of narrative element.

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>>40361016
Exactly my feelings.

>> No.40361051

>>40360990
Honestly, I rather like that part of the story.
I don't think the romance would be as good if they simply hit it off perfectly. That beginning tension highlights their personalities, teaches us how they both think, feel and act and how that puts them at odds, and how they overcome it and begin to trust and relate to each other.

Having that period of learning is essencial, and is what makes them so special to me. But I suppose it might be a dealbreaker for people who don't look for that in a romance.

>> No.40361052

>>40360979
Monster!

>> No.40361065

>>40338882
>>40338876
Oh this is interesting. Uh the dude he has a BDSM Fetish and Yuri Fetish. He originally fell into TM cause he watched HF2 and fell for Saber Alter cause of his BDSM wanting to be Dominated Fetish. Then she fell off cause FGO Summer Alter and now he sucks Ciel cause he in his eyes found the perfect BDSM Waifu.
(I am not kidding about any of this)

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Alright /tmg/, I know this might seem like a shitpost, but I actually want you to answer seriously.
To finish off the gay month, would you like or believe a Ciel x Arc relationship could work if it was ever made in an oficial capacity?

>> No.40361094

>>40361073
No, they are both too hungry for the cock.

>> No.40361099
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Good morning, /tmg/!

>> No.40361100

>>40360962
bunny aoko

>> No.40361102

>>40360842
>>40360937
>>40360942
>>40360955
>>40360990
>>40361016
My people, I love you all.

>> No.40361105

>>40361099
Good morning, Arachfag!

>> No.40361106

>>40361099
good morning dr boobs

>> No.40361132
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>>40361016
Most of us like all the characters, even if we act as barbarians sometimes.

>> No.40361138

The maids are sluts!

>> No.40361141

>>40361132
me top left

>> No.40361151

>>40361073
In a serious capacity no. I could buy Cirl having some level of feelings for Ciel, that's already played up a bit

>> No.40361153

>>40361141
can I kiss you?

>> No.40361155

>>40361008
There is both. Power levels can be fun but it doesn't change the fact that it's seinen lol. It's just about the themes, tone and audience. It's why you have the rating. Please don't hold the gook against us though, he's not one of us. And yes, Tsukihime routes are all good so I've never found myself shitposting about whose better as they all add to the overall story and Shiki.

>> No.40361160

>>40361151
>Cirl
You mean Arc?

>> No.40361171

>>40361073
Nah, sister wives though. Their rivalry over killer-kun is too ingrained.

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You guys are just shitposting when you say Tsukihime is a "seinen", right?
There's no way you're actually serious, right?

>> No.40361180
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Looking at this TM Disgaea Poster makes me wish a TM SRPG in a style of Disgaea and SRW was real.
...or if they just make Battle Moon Wars 2

>> No.40361183

>>40361171
I-I thought you guys hated Ciel's good end.

>> No.40361187

>>40361132
I hate Sakura though

>> No.40361192

>>40361180
It would be bloated with FGO shit…
Although, if they actually spent time and resources to make those things well developed (and took off the self insert), I wouldn’t dislike it.

>> No.40361204

>>40361153
Yes Ayako.

>> No.40361227

>>40361192
Maybe they should only keep the FGO stuff as like upgrade unit or something? Like use the Servant Possessed Version of FSN Characters as like an Upgrade. While actual FGO is more like small dose and unit only?

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>>40361073
>>40361160
fucking hand slipped
I could understand Arc having some feelings for Ciel for similar reasons to Shiki, they already cheese that up decently often in official stuff even a bit in the remake and Lumina at times, but I can't really see Ciel having anything romantic for Arc. At best Ciel just tolerates her existence or goes along with stuff because it's easier than a confrontation and I don't think you can change that without a pretty substantial backstory rework.

>> No.40361254

>>40361180
>>40361192
>>40361227
Alright, let's suppose this actually happens.
Who is directing and (who is) writing it?

>> No.40361278

>>40361248
Yeah. But they've a really good dynamic... What a shame

>> No.40361289

>>40360937
eh, The Fate route has some great scenes like the basement scene and the final fight at the end. It probably had the best overall ending when counting the epilogue which is beautiful. Fate route is rough at the start, but it really is the peak of Fate near the end there. Saber's ending is still the best one for me.

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>>40360979
Meow?

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>>40361016
thankfully the Tsukihime remake vastly improves the romance with giving the story and characters more time to bond. Both Arc and Ciel's romance are great in TsukiR.

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>>40360979
bend over

>> No.40361328

>>40361254
have Nino from Studio BB just make an Etrian Odyssey game with Fate characters since he worked on those games. The guy knows how to make good games after Extra.

>> No.40361342

>>40361254
Uh...
Uh...
I want to say writing for Nasu but his too busy...I want to say Narita but his suffering from Diabetes caused health issue...
...uh...Higashide? He did a decent job with Extella Link? Eh?....
Okay I have no idea. Tho if I can choose a game director, I would love to see someone who worked on Disgaea, SRW or Tactics Ogre making it. Or at least someone close enough like Uta 2-3 guy.

>> No.40361352

>>40361248
I see, it does make sense, given their interacitons in official media. Although the way Ciel talks about and with her in (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWfDCv9a7co&ab_channel=YashikoFm)) does give the impression they could work well with a tsundere dynamic.

> I don't think you can change that without a pretty substantial backstory rework.
Maybe if she develops some apreciation/thankfullness for Arc for ridding her body of Roa(even if the end result wasn't perfect)?

>> No.40361356

>>40361328
He did make DQ Builders and FFXIV as a Secondary Director.

>> No.40361380 [SPOILER] 
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>>40361254

>> No.40361381

>>40361356
that too and also got people from Square for Studio BB. They mentioned making smaller games so hope they still due that. COVID really fucked over that small studio that just started when that happened.

>> No.40361404

>>40361352
But in a way its kind of Arcs fault that Roa exists and he possessed Ciel and made her kill her own family and entire town

>> No.40361418

>>40361352
It's just a rivalry turned friendship. They come to coexist and love the same person as highlighted in your video. Initially they were at each other's throats and Arc being the sore loser+battle maniac she is wanted to humiliate and crush Ciel's pride while asserting her dominance.

>> No.40361443

>>40361404
By that same logic, couldn't Shiki blame Arc for all that happened to SHIKI? It depends on how the person looks at the situation, and how they chose to deal with it.

>>40361418
I know, I was solely implying that, as highlighted in there, it is not like they can't have a good dynamic, ergo, one that isn't wanting to kill each other.

>> No.40361455

>>40361254
Martin Scorsese

>> No.40361482

>>40361443
Of course, they obviously can be amicable. We see that in Melty in Ciel's story mode arc too. One of the themes of Tsukihime is coexistence between humans and inhumans.

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>>40361306
Yeah. I'm looking forward to Red Garden. Ciel's route romance is my personal favorite. Shiki/Ciel have a really good chemistry and development. The last scene in the True End is adorable...

>> No.40361492

>>40361320
We need the GOAT to come back and draw a new Shiki cat doujin...

>> No.40361526

>>40361306
Based. They both hit so hard. I really want an Arc True End. The normal ending we got in RE is already perfect in the thematic and bittersweet sense(Like Ciel Normal) but I think an alternate end would also be kino. I can see Shiki fighting for his own happiness as selfishly as possible. So him willing to take the struggle and potential pitfalls despite her own fears, just to live life together makes sense to me and would be a good compliment to the other end.

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>>40361485
"Shi...." haha it was too cute. BTW glad people like my commission. Originally i had asked for the normal end to be shown with Shiki holding a dead Ciel but the artist must have misunderstood what I was asking

>> No.40361534

>>40361443
I don't think Shiki ever actually knows the full Roa situation and the full SHIKI situation at the same time though.

>> No.40361547

>>40361529
Thank you. I headcanon the author understood but was a chad and gave you something better. Might be the best Ciel Fanart. It looks like something that would be official. Kinda looks like that one image in Sohon.

>> No.40361553

>>40361175
Shonen/seinen/etc. is just a demographic. OG Tsukihime is an 18+ eroge. Actually even the remake is rated 18+.

>> No.40361554

>>40361534
No, most ironic of all is, I'm quite sure he is aware of the SHIKI situation in Arc's route.
It is there he learns of her past as the princes of the Ancestors, how Roa tricked her, and that Roa possesed his brother's body.

>> No.40361558

>>40361547
He drew her again for someone else a couple months ago

>> No.40361566

>>40361558
https://twitter.com/xtango3/status/1517672741981196288?t=KX2yji76NGjgDVbgE99ldw&s=19

>> No.40361567

>>40361554
He does know. He also doesn't really remember SHIKI or anything though. He simply comes to terms with it while understanding how SHIKI must feel. But in the end, it's whatever to him. He'll still stop his enemy no matter what.

>> No.40361575
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Me and my _f.

>> No.40361576

>>40361558
Yeah, it's also good. Though your pic has a lot more soul and meaning to it while the other one is just cool.

>> No.40361580

>>40361567
Yeah, in the end it's like I said, it all depends on how the person looks at it, and how they chose to deal with it.

>> No.40361585

>>40361575
muff

>> No.40361596

>>40361529
>"Shi...." haha it was too cute
Yeah... The fact that Shiki immediately kissed her afterwards made this scene even better.

>> No.40361600

>>40361575
stuff

>> No.40361603

>>40361580
Ciel definitely seems to hold it against Arc as she views the TA as the true enemies though again, Melty and Tsuki themes about coexistence so part of that is getting over it and becoming friends.

>> No.40361610

>>40361554
He's aware of both but it's the cliffnotes version. Shiki probably wouldn't hold it against her either way but it makes sense that Ciel would.

>> No.40361630

Sakurafags/HFags are so fucking nuts, holy shit

>> No.40361638

>>40361003
The problem IMO with Fate is that the structure of the romance is a very poor fit for the content of the rest of the route. Shirou's romance with Saber is odd in the sense that up until the fight with Berserker it is really, really slow paced until it suddenly ramps up and doesn't let go. It honestly probably gets as much development in the bridge scene, the fight with Gilgamesh and the basement scene combined than everything else preceding. To note, I don't think this is a bad thing in and of itself. In the hands of a less competent writer it would probably suck but Nasu really handles it well. It's just that the early Fate route is left with this massive vacuum where there is nothing to compensate for the lack of goings on in the Saber/Shirou romance. In fact the route wastes our time with side characters that don't really matter. The Fate route suffers because it was frontloaded with stuff that was important for the other routes so we spend way too much time with Rin and Illya who are completely irrelevant to what the route is actually about -- Saber and Shirou. So we have too much exposition, too much SoL hijincks, too much time spent with side characters that don't matter, etc. The way the romance is structured, it perhaps would've been better had it been employed in a route where there's more stuff happening at the start to keep the audience engaged until the real fun starts. On the other hand? That might've distracted from the romance so it's perhaps not the best fit either.

In comparison, UBW trims down the fat rather immediately. The cast is virtually narrowed down to just Rin and Shirou. Their relationship is zeroed in and Archer is established as foil to them and Shirou specifically. The plot with Medea doesn't feel like something that exists apart from Shirou's arc, primarily defined by his romance with Rin and his conflict with Archer, but as something that helps drive it forward in a more concise and engaging fashion than the way the plot stuff is handled in Fate. Don't get me wrong, Shinji and Rider do lead to Shirou being forced to admit he needs Saber's help and later the reveal of Saber's identity but I feel like it could've been even more concise. In HF the side characters matter and the side plots help move the central plot over Shirou abandoning his ideal forward so they are more thoroughly developed. We spend a lot of time with Rin and Illya but they actually matter so they are proper characters with relevance to Shirou's character development and also Sakura's story. They aren't just there for the sake of establishing them for later routes.

>>40361016
I wish I could enjoy Shirou/Sakura. I think it has some strengths as I said in >>40355427 but ultimately I find it wasted potential. Which are the Tsuki pairs you like, btw?

>>40361102
I love you too anon.

>>40361099
Good morning Arachbro.

>> No.40361653

>>40361073
I see sexual potential in it, but as a real relationship, no way. Not even as a menage a trois with Shiki-kun, both of them are too possessive of him to ever manage a relationship like that in the long run.

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I think Rider x Saber has potential.

>> No.40361687

>>40361638
>I wish I could enjoy Shirou/Sakura.
I think it's pretty good, but I understand why some people dislike it.

>Which are the Tsuki pairs you like, btw?
Shiki/Arcueid and Shiki/Ciel are the only ones that I really like. I'm also interested in Shiki/Satsuki

>> No.40361690

>>40358668
The other girls know that Arc is the undisputed apex predator among them in terms of looks and abilities, so it's only natural that they'd all get super jealous in her presence and afraid of Shiki-kun's eyes straying from them if she ever actually put effort into seducing him from them.

>> No.40361711

>>40361638
>The cast is virtually narrowed down to just Rin and Shirou
While I agree with everything else you said(especially because you said what I wanted to say better than I did), I'll have to contend with you on this. IMO from the beginning, there is still a certain focus on Saber, Sakura and Taiga. Though, it's not like it is a bad thing, honestly, I think having characters other than the main pair is a good thing.

>Archer is established as foil to them and Shirou specifically.
Is he really a foil to *them* as much as he is just a foil for Shirou, and Rin is the answer that allows Shirou to be different? (or would that make him a foil for them both?)

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>>40358685

>> No.40361721

>>40361667
They have their rivalry going on, so yeah, it has potential.
Honestly, Rider in HA is constantly horny that you could pair her with any other heroine.

>> No.40361744

>>40361715
I really liked this scene

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>>40361721
what the fuck was her problem?

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Seems about time. Whoever said gachafags have the analytical ability of a goldfish was right.

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>>40361813
Jebaited by fanfiction.

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>>40361822
I remember twitter taking this as gospel

>> No.40361855

>>40361827
Most of these are kinda ass aside from Siegfried’s wife

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>>40361822
I don't remember anyone taking the Arc silhouette seriously, but I do remember a lot of people hoping for Ciel in the vietnam twins event because of the Seventh Holy Scripture reference.

>> No.40361868

>>40361855
I thought Quixote's design was charming.

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Is it morally wrong to have sex with a Mystic Code?

>> No.40361921

>>40361858
Twitter exploded twice because of that list. Retards came out of the wood works thinking it was confirmed. You also right about the pilebunker setting off another batch of copium though.

>> No.40361934

>>40361921
>Retards came out of the wood works thinking it was confirmed
Yikes. I guess I'm glad I didn't see that then.

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>>40361855
Agreed. Fuck that shit but at least this is cute. Should be more shit like this.

>> No.40362003

>>40361991
Siegfried looks cool, shame Apocrypha was SHIT.

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>>40361991

>> No.40362040

/tmg/ has become yet another haven for /a/utists.
What an abhorrent thread.

>> No.40362046

>>40362040
This thread is an eyesore.

Disappear!

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>>40362040
/tmg/ having a meltdown about people discussing type-moon will never not be funny

>> No.40362062

>>40362040
They'll get bored and leave eventually. This always happens.

>> No.40362066

>>40361711
>IMO from the beginning, there is still a certain focus on Saber, Sakura and Taiga. Though, it's not like it is a bad thing, honestly, I think having characters other than the main pair is a good thing.
Yeah but the focus on them is nowhere near as big as it is in the early portions of the Fate route. What's important is that they are there but they aren't distracting like in Fate, where we spend so much time on dumb conversations between Taiga, Rin and Sakura, including ones where Rin teases Sakura about her boobs (...what?). I'm still kinda baffled how much time we spend on Day 4(?) at the school just seeing Shinji, Rin and Sakura interact with Shirou in a route where none of them get properly fleshed out. In UBW by contrast, the side characters feel utilized just enough to establish Shirou's home life and also the extent to which he and Rin are distant from another in the early stages of the route but they get phased out right around when they aren't all that needed anymore. I like how Taiga is used when Rin comes over to Shirou's to strategize and later sleep. It's a case where she is used to add oil to the flame of Rin and Shirou's banter. Taiga getting Shirou to act all tsun about Rin is cute. In Fate however the side antics just distract from the real meat and potatoes that is the Shirou/Saber relationship. I don't wish to exclude the side characters completely by any means. I think it's nice the way Shirou's banter with them is used to point out Saber is only happy when Shirou is happy. It's just the balance is completely off.

>Is he really a foil to *them* as much as he is just a foil for Shirou, and Rin is the answer that allows Shirou to be different? (or would that make him a foil for them both?)
I think it does make him a foil to both simply by the fact that Rin loves Shirou but even without that Shirou and Archer are placed in the role of angel and devil on Rin's shoulder (kind of) in the early portions of the route, with the former encouraging her human side and the latter her magus side. Plus, it is by seeing Archer's past and seeing how it reflects Shirou's present that Rin gets more in tune with the latter's problems. Ironically, though Archer seems to be trying to push Rin away from Shirou, he ends up doing the opposite. Though I would argue that his giving the pendant to Rin actually seems to indicate that his blessing of their relationship at the end was reflective of his "shipping" them together from the very start and that he gave Rin the pendant to get her to realize who he is, therefore allowing her to help Shirou out.

>>40361687
Interesting. I usually see people preferring the Far Side romances.

>> No.40362078

>>40362051
not enough soul vs soulless dae fgo bad, anon isn't used to fully formed thoughts anymore

>> No.40362104

>>40362040
It was mostly a good thread, aside from the retard who spammed the interviews.

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>>40361492
Lord Hiroyuki save our soul. Come to C100 and JAM IT IN!

>> No.40362129

Imagine how good /tmg/ would be if anti-Fatefags actually discussed non-Fateshit instead of just whining that people are discussing Fateshit.

>> No.40362145

>>40362078
I smell the slots on you.

>> No.40362147

>>40361855
Don Quixote is charming tho. And I like Mecha Tametomo

>> No.40362148

>>40362129
That's too much effort, let's instead discuss how bad F/GO is but only in 10 words or less.

>> No.40362153

>>40362104
Pretty sure that was the Gook.

>> No.40362158

>>40362066
About the focus on side characters... eh, its complicated.
Like you said, Fate route suffers from being an introductory route. It needs to set up the lore and the world and the characters from the ground up.
Because of that, characters like Rin have a great presence, despite not being very important to the happenings, or having major developments.

However, I will defend on Taiga being useful on Shirou/Saber as well. Moments like Saber beating her on a sword fight, or, more importantly, the moment Taiga gives saber a plush toy, serve greatly to show us more of Saber and Shirou, and are interesting and refreshing scenes.
While I will admit that a lot of characters don't have meaning in that route, the character interactions paint a good image of Shirou's day to day life and are important for painting a picture of the characters.

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Rate this thread

>> No.40362170

>>40362148
It doesn't even deserve 10 words.

>> No.40362177

>>40362147
Don is discount Arthur. Tametomo would be ok if not for the ribbon things falling over his chest. He kind of reminds me of an Asura Wrath reject just a bit. I like his mask/face design and the fur neckline.

>> No.40362186

>>40362165
This thread was a different_experience/10

>> No.40362192

>>40362165
I'm not a fan.

>> No.40362196

>>40362165
I don't mind autists going on about their Fate routes. I'm not even paying attention to it really.

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>>40362165
This face of Soujuurou out of 10

>> No.40362208

>>40362196
cope

>> No.40362218

>>40362165
rough middle with interview spam/wormposting but good after that

>> No.40362264

>>40362202
Tsukurimonoji...

>> No.40362328

>>40362208
Cope about what? Should I be annoyed? Or engaged?

>> No.40362433

>>40362158
I definitely agree those Taiga moments are great. I will say that I think Taiga is better utilized and a more compatible character with Shirou and Saber than the others. Far more than Sakura for instance, who really, really overstays her welcome. If I had to sum up my feelings on the SoL stuff in Fate route, it's that it's too much a good thing. Overall I'd like to note that I definitely do not want to see it rewritten. FSN is one interconnected whole and rewrites to the Fate route would also require rewrites to UBW and HF and I'd rather not see that.

>> No.40362476

>>40362165
Was fine until FGO popped up out of nowhere at the end.

>> No.40362483

>>40362476
I hate FGO as much as the next guy, but was that discussion really that bad?

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good?

>> No.40362515

>>40362483
Yes. It really shouldn’t be allowed on here besides shitting on it.

>> No.40362519

>>40362514
No, you.

>> No.40362564

>>40360475
>why is Shirou blushing?
A riddle for the ages.

>> No.40362703

>>40362264
Oh people found Tsukuri Monoji. Or at least presumedly him. He was working on a Kusoge called Deep One. Or presumedly. Cause the scripter for that game is using the same technique as Tsukuri Monoji and thats basically his trade secret. And looks awfully lot like Mahoyo in action

>> No.40362715

>>40362703
It also helps the Scripter's name is 月織 as in Weaved from the Moon and Takeuchi himself seems to have promoted the VN aka someone in the staff has connection to Type Moon.

>> No.40362726

>>40362703
>Deep One
Oh yeah, wasn't that one technically unfinished as well?

>> No.40362755

Big sweaty Aoko beach boobs.

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>>40362726
Yes. That one. Its speculated that person who made the script is Tsukuri Monoji going under a new pseudoynm. Heck in the developer interview when asked about where the Scripter learned how to do this. He pretty much said "thats private information".
Also this unmistakably him. No one in the industry besides him even knows how to do this

>> No.40362788

>>40362760
That's not what プライベート means my dude.

>> No.40362804

>>40362726
This one? https://vndb.org/v22499 Wow, the dev’s name is Nameless. What a coincidence.

>> No.40362818

>>40362726
Isn't Deep One a gacha that had a collab with Dies Irae recently?

>> No.40362824

>>40362804
Yeah. It's been a while but I think that was one of those games that was advertised as complete but it turned out it was missing some routes or something (like how Dies Irae was initially released). Dunno if they ever finished it. I'm guessing no looking at the company's releases.

>> No.40362833

>>40362788
Doesnt it mean sort of the same thing?
Anyway its just speculation ultimately.
Even if its very unlikely another person who knows how to do something similar via self study. Who knows. If it is. Its super impressive. But for now Im autstic and obsessive enough to believe the Tsukiori=Tsukuri monoji thing.

>> No.40362854

>>40362703
Ah yes the trade secret he goes over thoroughly in this interview.
4gamer.net/games/115/G011514/20120511075/index_3.html

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>>40362824
I guess they ran out of funding and made the gacha to fund the thing. Depressing but hey they got ambition. I mean look at this. Its pretty impressive.

>> No.40362891

>>40362703
Total bullshit.

>> No.40362962

>>40357654
I think Shiki/Ciel is such a good pairing is also because of how realistic it is. I've never really met some out of this world Arcueid type or had any kind of maids to serve me but I've had people play similar roles to Akiha and Ciel in my life. Ciel might not fit it perfectly for me but lots of young men have had a slightly older girl in their formative years take an interest in them and help to mold them somehow.

>> No.40362981

>>40362962
bro where can I meet a real life akiha? asking for a friend

>> No.40362996

Thank god gay month is now over

>> No.40363004

>>40362996
Nothing ever ends anon.

>> No.40363008

>>40362996
Finally I can stop making gay OPs.

>> No.40363022

please bunny aoko next op

>> No.40363102

>>40363022
No.

>> No.40363113

>>40363102
ok fine do bluetights kissing boys or whatever the fuck i only look at the op like twice anyway

>> No.40363122

>>40363113
>>40337954 will be the next OP.

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>> No.40363221

>>40362515
Sounded like that's exactly what they were doing.

>> No.40363260

i will make the next op and it will not be gay

>> No.40363262

>>40053171 Shiki and Shirou kissing
>>40080718 Medusa and Medea being very close to each other
>>40104769 Aoko Aozaki (alone)
>>40128752 Medusa and Sakura being close to each other
>>40151761 Akiha and Shiki reading some books
>>40175065 Alice with Robin
>>40194781 Medea (alone)
>>40224568 Touko kissing Alice
>>40249572 Lancer and Bazett
>>40272440 Shirou and Arthur being very close to each other
>>40301848 Akiha and Kohaku
>>40334742 FE Rin and Rani

How many threads this month were completely (and I mean, completely) devoid of the gay?

>> No.40363273

>>40363022

>> No.40363318

how about a gil talking shit op

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>> No.40363619

>>40361744
read it, it's all yours, my friend

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>>40363262
fujostacies run this general.

>> No.40363639

>>40363621
No, not really.

>> No.40363674

>>40363639
Yes they do

>> No.40363686

>>40363674
No.

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he said it

>> No.40363742

>>40362981
My experience. Join a reserve unit. Befriend the kid going for officer and note how she's grown so much despite already being so mature already. Then bemoan that you never did the same thing so you could steal her from that chode who promises her a house and failed.
TL;DR
Foster someone younger than you who would take care of you.

>> No.40363743

>>40360226
>but people choosing others over Sakura isn’t wrong, nor should it be looked down upon
Bad end 30 and F/Z as a whole prove otherwise.

>> No.40363746

>>40360369
>cooking is seinen
No wonder HF is known as the seinen route.

>> No.40363819

>>40361638
>Shirou's romance with Saber is odd in the sense that up until the fight with Berserker it is really, really slow paced until it suddenly ramps up and doesn't let go. It honestly probably gets as much development in the bridge scene, the fight with Gilgamesh and the basement scene combined than everything else preceding. To note, I don't think this is a bad thing in and of itself. In the hands of a less competent writer it would probably suck but Nasu really handles it
It actually has quite a bit of development early on, it's just a lot more subtle. Thing's like Saber and Shirou's early training, Saber becoming accustomed to being part of "the family" etc all take place early on. In fact, the one major thing I praise the Fate Route for is its consistency with the romance. There's very rarely a scene with the two characters that doesn't have romantic implications, even early on, it's just that later on in the route, the romance is far more obvious. I can say that it feels like it goes through intensive development as soon Saber meets assassin.

>spend way too much time with Rin and Illya who are completely irrelevant to what the route is actually about -- Saber and Shirou
This is an interesting take, and one I disagree with. Rin and Illya take up virtually no time in the grand scheme of things when compared with the main focus- Saber and Shirou. More often than not, Illya or Rin stop by for a quick exposition dump, then vanish for a solid 2 hours. In fact, side characters are barely present in this route. One of the big complaints is that it just focuses on Shirou and Saber and that's it. You're the first person I've spoken to who thinks the side characters are too distracting. More often than not, I hear that side characters should have played a bigger role in the route, since all the route actually does is focus on Saber and Shirou.

I think your take is interesting, but I do disagree with a lot of it.

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need more Shirou and Luvia art

>> No.40363916

>>40363262
Medusa, Medea, and Lancer are not straight.

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>> No.40364016

Bazett had a lesbian kiss (where she closed her eyes) in that spin-off. The other person notably didn't.

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