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Goddamn, does this bitch never get any less suspicious. And no, I'm not saying she's Beatrice. I'm saying she's the goddamn culprit. She pretends that Kinzo is alive when she had to know he was dead, her "relationship" with Kanon is highly suspect, she's lived on the entire island all her life, and Natsuhi and Krauss are both too moe to be the culprits. This bitch did it, I'm calling it now.

>> No.4026335
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4026335

True culprit.

>> No.4026342

it was pretty obvious Jessica is involved some way from episode 2 man

>> No.4026343

>>4026335
sHE's the henchMAN. sHE would be a very good henchMAN.

>> No.4026360

Thing is, what the bloody hell would be her motive? She's already first in line to get the jew gold, so why bother to kill fucking everyone?

>> No.4026366

Still didn't really solve the Erika thingie.
Like, the real story is a detective story based off the Rokkenjima mass murder and clues left by that, while metaworld tries explaining what actually happened. Thus Erika, being a detective, can be very well fictional.
Don't need any replies, I'll just leave this here.

>> No.4026371

>>4026360
Rape.

So far it worked well in VN's.

>> No.4026381

>>4026306
I still don't get the Piece-Beato cosplay. It has no foreshadowing about them looking alike so she can't do that according to Knox, but there are still so many clues pointing at her there.

>> No.4026383

>>4026371
Explain further, please....

>> No.4026396

>>4026383
She was abused by Kinzo and thus kind of wants to forget everything about her family in Kohaku-ish style. So she joins Kanon on his quest for revenge to Natsuhi.

Something like that.

>> No.4026413

>>4026396
>Kohaku
And suddenly her blandness comes back to bite us all in the ass.

>> No.4026440

>>4026360
Hatred? Revenge? Forbidden love? She don't want to be Ushiromiya's head?

>> No.4026460

Rape? Kinzo? Please. Those were the best moments of her life, I bet. I mean once you go Kinzo, you.... uh... GOLDSMITH!

>> No.4026472

She is a lesbian, lesbians are fucking crazy, it's common knowledge.

>> No.4026479

>>4026472
You mean George is gay, right?

>> No.4026484

>>4026460

ha ha ha...oh DESIRE.

>> No.4026488

George and Shanon did it, I'm Calling it now

>> No.4026497

Jessica and Hideyoshi did it, working separately, unaware (at least on of them) of who the other was. Hideyoshi had a mundane motive. Jessica was trying to become Beato.

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>>4026460

>> No.4026528

ShKanon is the main culprit. She has an internal conflict of her two personalities. If Shannon personality wins she and George are the culprits, if Kanon wins "he" and Jassica are the culprits. Nanjo is an accomplice and Maria knows most of what is going on.

>> No.4026531

I think Shannon is the culprit and the one who wants to become like Beatrice. Her love for Battler could be why she didn't stop him when he was about to grab her tits in Episode 1.

>> No.4026537

Episode 2:
Shannon meet Rosa and Maria in the rose garden dressed like Beatrice, she makes a pact with Rosa to tell her where the gold is if she follows the instruction, Rosa being a greedy whore of course jump on the occasion.
Kyrie later get onto it but she probably believes that it's a plan to make Krauss reveal that Kinzo is dead.
Chapel closed room: it wasn't closed to begin with, easy.
The Kanon/Jessica closed room is easy if you see it from a Shannon = Kanon perspective.
Same for George/Shannon.
Rest is obvious.

Other things, both Shannon and Kanon are confirmed as dead in episode 2, here is my theory.
Shannon, who is probably the original, has 3 personalities within her fighting for dominance, her, Kanon, and Beatrice.
Each personality is counted as a separate person and therefore can die, that's what happen.
Basically when one of the personality die, it's just one of the other personality completely dominating the other, a process that is usual with people suffering from MPD.

About Maria, I believe she is working Shannon/Beatrice, though she obviously don't know everything.
The jawbone found in episode 1 could be a fake by Nanjo, who faked her medical record prior to everything.

For Battler sin: Battler is somehow responsible for creating the multiple personality, especially the Beatrice one.
What did he do? I don't know, can be something sappy or whatever.

>> No.4026535

Reposting it in this thread just because I can

Episode 1 if you consider that Shannon = Kanon.
First twilight, of course Shannon didn't die, the bag that Kanon carried was a body used to substitute.
Jessica and Nanjo works with her.
Jessica knows about her double personality, so you have a forbidden love, Nanjo do it for the money.
The fake Shannon's body is "identified" by Nanjo and Hideyoshi.

Later, Kanon is mortally injured, his death is never stated in red though and only Jessica and Nanjo come close to him.
Then it's simple, Kanon dress like Beatrice and kill everyone remaining, bomb take care of the rest.

>> No.4026539

About Erika and BattlerxBeatrice conflicting red text:

If you consider people as human with a body and all, the red text of Beatrice and Battler is factual.

If you consider that both Shannon and Kanon see themselves as separate people aka I think therefore I am, then Erika's red text is true.

The Beatrice personality within Shannon doesn't recognize herself as a human but as a witch.

It's a question of subjectivity, but the red text work in both cases.

>> No.4026540

Jessica = Beatoriche
Kanon = Natsuhi's 19yr old stalker boy

>> No.4026561

>>4026537
To add on Battler:
Battler coming in Rokkenjima triggered the Beatrice personailty awakening again
That's why nothing would have happened if he didn't come back.

Also this is why Beatrice hate GeorgexShannon and JessicaxKanon, she felt betrayed by Battler for some reason but she also still loves him or something, so she doesn't like how the other personalities use her body to find love elsewhere.

>> No.4026586

Umineko in a nutshell: Kanon and Jessica are fucking crazy. Nanjo is helping them for PROFIT!

>> No.4026608

Oh lawd, if Jessitrice is true in addition to Kanon = Shannon the shippers are going to have a shit-fit.....

>> No.4026625

>>4026608
You kidding me? The shippers will eat that shit up, easily.

>> No.4026623

>>4026531
>Her love for Battler could be why she didn't stop him when he was about to grab her tits in Episode 1.
Or maybe she was so flustered she didn't know how to react...

>> No.4026643

>>4026623
Hey, if she's a he, he'd want to make sure his disguise was convincing, right?
But if these shenanigans are true, Shannon confirmed for trap of the year all year.

>> No.4026652

Good quality Motion Graphic 6 anyone? Song would also be nice~

>> No.4026673

Nanjo's murder is easily solved if the Shannon = Kanon = Beatrice theory is true.
Actually the whole game is easily solved in this case.

>> No.4026675

or, Jessica is Beatrice and Shannon/Kanon is the culprit.

>> No.4026700

>>4026675
Jessitrice has too much holes.
Who killed Nanjo in episode 3 then?
And the time when Jessica died?
ShKannontrice solve everything.
Like, George death in episode 3, consider this theory and realize how easily solvable it is.

>> No.4026723

Just stop and think for a minute:
Is Kanon a girl with magical breast reduction powers or is Shannon a boy with awesome exposed thighs?

>> No.4026726

Please tell me Kinzo turns up in EP6, just in a fantasy scene, i need my Kinzo fix.

>> No.4026732

>>4026723
Is Jessica lesbian or is George gay?

>> No.4026734

>>4026723
This is... kinda disturbing actually

>> No.4026741

>>4026675


..The more I think about this, the more I like it.

Or it could be the other way around. Shkanon is Beatrice, Jessica is culprit.

>> No.4026749

>>4026741
SO Battler is also gay now
humm

>> No.4026781

>>4026749

50/50 odds.

>> No.4026809

>>4026723
PAD

>> No.4026832

>>4026723
>Shannon a boy with awesome exposed thighs.
DEEN fell for the trap.
Kanon has an inferiority complex because his Shannon persona is dominating his life while not allowing him to love for himself. The bitterness drives him batshit insane.

Umineko solved.

>> No.4026921

>>4026535
>Episode 1 if you consider that Shannon = Kanon.

ok stop reading right here.
proven false. gtfo.

>> No.4026956

I knew a transsexual with multiple personalities, with one male personality, and two female ones... weird... I think they were being a bit of a drama queen though. trying to rationalise their issues through the use of multiple personalities - one male because it's hard to escape being brought up male, because gender roles come into question and you realise no woman should be "completely" female, and two female representing the kind of conflict of personality you'd have deciding what woman you'd want to be.

Maybe Umineko is actually about transsexuality? And Beatrice tries to convince Battler magic exists, because if it does, that means she doesn't have to be a tranny - ShKannon is the latest "vessel" she's become trapped in because of Kinzo but without Magic, she isn't an endless witch and is just a tranny trying to rationalise her existence with multiple personalities.

>> No.4026959

Shanon will die.

But her soul will chose to go back in time, the the time when she was happiest, and she will be at Episode 2's vacations with George.
Kanon who loves Shanon want to be with her too and want to be in a time when Shanon'd love him, but since she already loves George he'll go back in time before he is born, and became her

>> No.4027069

Nanjo, Jessica, and Shannon.
Three badass motherfuckers.

>> No.4027093

>>4027069
3 fucking idiots.
And they all have cowtits.

>> No.4027097

That looks like the girl from KS, LOL!

>> No.4027100

>>4027093
>Shannon
OR DOES SHE?
Then again, calling it now, Kanon is a delicious reverse trap. chest bindings ftw.

>> No.4027114

So, er, I heard that Kyrie fights Jessica in this, and that Kanon fights Shannon a bunch of times.
Any truth to this?

>> No.4027118

It's true

>> No.4027124

Wait, so is it true that Kanon bitchslaps Shannon while they're having some talk that supposedly affirms Shannon = Kanon?

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>> No.4027137

>>4027114
Shkanon fought MARIA

>> No.4027143

So what happens in the Kyrie vs Jessica fight?

>> No.4027150

Jessica's a dyke, jessica's a dyke, high ho the dairy-oh, Jessica's a dyke.

>> No.4027162
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So, who is the true persona? Shannon or Kanon?

>> No.4027183

I was a diehard Shkanon AND Shannontrice hater, so it kills me to say this, but both are almost screamingly obvious in EP6. Unless Ryukishi reveals a giant twist, Shkanontrice seems to be what's up.

>> No.4027191

>>4027183
Shkannontrice?
Ah, I get it. R07 is Xzibit.

>> No.4027192

Kanon is the true persona.

<red>The only one who can claim Kanon's name is the person himself! <red>

>> No.4027203

HAHAHAHA GEORGE IS A FAGGOT! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>> No.4027232

>>4027192
Nope. Shannon killed Kanon.

>> No.4027259

>>4027191
YO DAWG SO I HEARD YOU LIKE CULPRITS SO I PUT A CULPRIT INSIDE YOUR CULPRIT SO YOU CAN SUSPECT WHILE YOU SUSPECT

>> No.4027269

>>4027232


And...?

>> No.4027275

This shit is almost as bad as Mion and Shion.

>> No.4027316

>>4027275
MION SHION MISHION WHO IS ACTUALLY POSSESSED BY SHMION.

>> No.4027326

Shannon Manon
Shion Mion

>> No.4027334

>>4027326
But, uh, his name is Kanon....

>> No.4027363

>>4027275
Except that was very simple.
You have actual twins, and regardless of names, one pretends to be the other to cover up the most easy to pinpoint crimes ever.
The only true confusion is who replaces whom, and that was cleared later on on an answer arc.

This here is fucking ridiculous.

>> No.4027463

>>4027363
It really, really is.

LET'S GO RESURRECT BT YOU GUYS RYUKISHI WILL STOP FAILING THEN

>> No.4027473

>>4027463
But what if we fail and BT is too moe, and R07 kills him?

>> No.4027688

>>4027473
we'll see what comes out, and then worry about it.

first we have to perform the ritual and kill the 6 chosen by the key.

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