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A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Mahou Tsukai no Yoru
VN: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English patch: https://hollow-moon.github.io
French patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french
Italian patch: https://riffourtranslations.wordpress.com/category/mahoutsukai-no-yoru

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (English)
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3439039
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ
MEGA Link
https://mega.nz/folder/3hMjEaTK#TKTKhfXVd9v0emG8ePsDVQ

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
Tsukihimates and Clover Moon MTL Project (Please contribute if you can)
https://github.com/Tsukihimates/Tsukihime-Translation

>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3113948
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate/Zero
https://nyaa.si/view/961297
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5943-Lord-El-Melloi-II-Case-Files
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/fQFiyY4I#UcZr7N0u3_35994pXKP8qw
Heaven's Feel Manga
https://ww.mangakakalot.tv/manga/manga-kc952437
Heaven's Feel Movie Booklet Translation
https://imgur.com/a/se9NHn6

>Angel Voice (one of the first works released by TM)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip/file
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com
>Fate/EXTRA
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-perfect-patch-hack
>Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fate/strange Fake
https://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
>Fate/type Redline
https://mangadex.org/title/44059/fate-type-redline
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
>Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lli17cum6jzg7/Marmalade
>Tsuki no Sango
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Tsuki no Sango Manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1

>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Type-Moon Comic Ace
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
>TMdict Glossary
https://www.tmdict.com
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
https://www.tsukikan.com
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI

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first for my husband

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Something about seeing Rin and Shirou all grown up in the UBW epilogue, that is so satisfying

>> No.39839553

All I want to see is Shiki Ciel and Arihiko finally hanging out at the movies and shit.

>> No.39839568

>>39839503
Based. Good way to start the thread.

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Cute

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>>39839614
Shiki doesnt like Arc, but love Ciel

>> No.39840181

>>39839425
>early
>lolinigger
>already samefags

>> No.39840254

>>39840181
The old thread has been at page 10 for like, what, a whole day? I don't blame OP for making this new one. No-one's really talking about anything.

>> No.39840299

ciel sex

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>>39840299
Ciel Noel
Lesbo comic

>> No.39840639

Muh doujins

>> No.39840661

>>39840639
same

>> No.39840793

>>39831094
Shiki isn't super interested but she'd totally go for him. He was getting along pretty well with her before she snapped.

>> No.39840798

>>39840639
What did he mean by this?

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Kek Roa...

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>>39839466
based

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Neco Arc

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>>39840957
Puppy Ciel

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>>39839503
>ifunny.co

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So why did the UBW anime move Taiga's kidnapping to the foot of the Fuyuki bridge (which IIRC is inexplicably deserted despite the scene being set during the day) rather than doing it like the VN did and having the kidnapping take place at the Emiya residence?

>> No.39841117

Raping castoriaposter

>> No.39841126

>>39841055
Probably because the bridge allowed for more spectacular visuals.

>> No.39841135
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I want the voiced version now

>> No.39841147

>>39841135
Roughly 7 more months to go.

>> No.39841522
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15,000 votes
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/714864/vote_result/#votewidget
1 KnK
2 Fate/SN
3 Tsukihime
4 FGO
5 Fate/Zero
6 CCC
7 Mahoyo
8 Fate/HA
9 realta nua
10 DDD
11 Case File
12 Fate/Apocrypha
13 Fate/Extra
14 KnK extra part
15 Fate/Prototype series
16 Fate/Strange Fake
17 Prisma Illya
18 Emiya Gohan
19 Kagetsu Tohya
20 ETC
21 Tsuki no Sango
22 Melty Blood AACC
23 Canaan
24 Melty Blood
25 Fate/Extella Link

Nips have good taste

>> No.39841525

don't reply

>> No.39841537
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>>39841525
dont replay for what?

he has a proper source
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/714864/vote_result/#votewidget

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>>39841552
History of black key

>> No.39841565
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>>39841552
Baptism

>> No.39841570

ciel

>> No.39841579

are cielfags retarded?

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>> No.39841586
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>>39841579
Narita is retarded
Gilgamesh = Random Vampire Jester

>> No.39841593
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I will kill. I will let live. I will harm and heal. None will escape me. None will escape my sight.
Be crushed.
I welcome those who have grown old and those who have lost.
Devote yourself to me, learn from me, and obey me.
Rest. Do not forget song, do not forget prayer, and do not forget me.
I am light and relieve you of all your burdens.
Do not pretend. Retribution for forgiveness, betrayal for trust, despair for hope, darkness for light, dark death for the living.
Relief is in my hands. I will add oil to your sins and leave a mark.
Eternal life is given through death.
Ask for forgiveness here. I, the incarnation, will swear.
Kyrie eleison

>> No.39841607

>>39841593
cringe

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>>39841607

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>>39841593
Lifes become ashes, humans are waste away
Broken flesh and blood, melting down wisdom
If so Grave is salvation, "dead" is my real hometown
Flower in my heart, Clautra del Cierro (The saint's prayer for redemtion)

google translate

>> No.39842203

>>39841055
I remember Nasu specifically saying he requested that change so they could have a bone soldier fight

>> No.39842260
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They're almost done with arc route bros. They'll likely release a patch for it once they finish,

>> No.39842531

>>39841055
Maybe to make Archer coming for help more speculative? idk.
That aside, I fucking love this image. Someone should make a similar one for Tsukihime.

>> No.39842675
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>> No.39842766

>>39842675
Hot

>> No.39842779

>>39842260
Is there a way to change their font when you read it?

>> No.39843151

>>39842675
Context?

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>> No.39843245

>>39843151
Akiha cute.

>> No.39843455
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Why did Nasu make her body 12 years old?

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>>39843455
She's 25
but her body is 12

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>> No.39843637

>>39843461
There’s no way in hell that’s a 12 year old

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Do not reply to the Gook

>> No.39843878
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>> No.39843881

>>39843455
16 was too old.

>> No.39844235

>>39843455
Logical consequence of a bunch of things and otherwise small date changes, mainly writing Noel in. Ciel can't be too far off in age from either Noel or Shiki, but Noel is much older than Shiki and the French Incident happened when she was a kid, so it also happened when Ciel was a kid now too. Funny Roa paradox means Ciel is unaging, so now her design is what she looked like when she was that age too, and you can retroactively justify it under Ciel being a genetic lottery winner, keep her dead longer to shorten her age gap to Shiki, and tie her weird age stuff back into her various body issues.

>> No.39844422

>>39844235
what a mess. Shouldn't have even mentioned an age.

>> No.39844476

>>39844422
Why? You'd still be able to figure it out even if they didn't make a joke out of it

>> No.39844546

>>39844476
it just makes the whole situation weird and also her body not looking like a 12 year old.

>> No.39844559

>>39844546
It's supposed to be weird and she's not supposed to look like a 12 year old.

>> No.39844580

>>39844559
good for you if you like it then. I'll just think of her having the body of an 18 year old and move on from this topic.

>> No.39844650

>>39844235
Sounds like an overall dumb change. Don't remember this being that stupid before. Feels like it could have been easily avoided

>> No.39844807

>>39844650
But it will make her a lot older than Shiki and many people don't like big age gaps.

>> No.39844820

>>39844580
Yeah because she does. It still fixes her age since she's actually old enough to be a high school senior this time instead of 21

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>>39844820
>>39844650
>>39844235
>>39844422
>>39844476
The setting of the remake takes place in the year 2014, instead of 1999.

Remake Ciel born in 1989

She's 25
And Noel is 27

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>>39844820
OG CIel was 24
OG Ciel's body age was 16

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Archer is a stupid character

>> No.39845527

>>39845345
She was only dead for 3 years though, so she's 24-3=21. Remake Ciel was dead for 6, for she's 25-6=19. French Incident was moved back to 13 years ago instead of 8 too

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>>39845527
Noel say Ciel become a junior executor, when she was 13 years old.
I dont remember she's dead for 6 years

>> No.39845607

>>39842675
am i bad at perceiving color, or does akiha's hair in that picture look dark brown, not black?

>> No.39845614

>>39845578
>その子は六年たったある日、よせばいいのに死から目覚めてしまった。おかしいですよね、ロアという魂に見捨てられた脱け殻のくせに生き返っちゃうとか
It's in the same place they mention the timespan for the other Ciel stuff, day 13

>> No.39845628

>>39845502
Well, he is still a Shirou after all.

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Archer is wholesome.

>> No.39845723

>>39845502
No he isn't. Fuck you. As a Rinfag, I often come to resent Archer for how non-Rinfags underrate Rin's role in UBW and Shirou's character development there simply because they don't like the romance. But then I read the VN or watch the anime and remember he's great, and that there's nothing to be angry over.

>> No.39845732

I have a dream that /tmg/ will stop replying to the gook and that these threads will be good again.

>> No.39845738

>>39845723
>As a Rinfag
stopped reading here

>> No.39845745

>>39845723
Why did you spoiler'd the relevant part of your post?

>> No.39845776

>>39845732
point out the gook to me

>> No.39845802

>>39845732
The threads will be good again when there is some content. Just wait a couple of months for news or something.

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>>39845732
I normally don't, but that was an actual question so I thought it was fine

>> No.39845854

>>39845776
Know the signs of the gook. First of all, all of his posts are ESL and it shows. You should be able to spot common mistakes in verb conjugations and other such things. Secondly, he's a big Cielfag (like 90+% of his posts involve Ciel) which unfortunately makes other cielfags look bad. Thirdly, he's obsessed with powerlevels like a shonentard. Next up, he uses the same pictures over and over again (one anon got tricked into translating something for him and now he reposts it constantly). Finally, he often does the thing where he replies multiple times to the same post in rapid succession.

>> No.39845857

I just want to suck Gilgamesh's toes bros

>> No.39845867

>>39845854
>makes other cielfags look bad
all ciel fags look bad

>> No.39845883

>>39845854
Imagine being this obsessed with a single poster.

>> No.39845896

>>39845854
I spot him through the filenames, powerlevel obsession, and wiki posting.
Maybe we shouldn't mention our ways or he will evolve.

>> No.39845907

>>39845883
>obsessed
If only. He sticks out like a sore thumb and has spammed these threads with his shit for months now. Anyone who is a regular should be able to spot him with ease.

>>39845896
Yeah good point.

>> No.39845922

POST CIEL

>> No.39845937

>>39841537
I wanted this to be the OP pic. Too bad it wasn't the case.

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>>39845922

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Good morning, /tmg/!

>> No.39846135

>>39845738
I thought we had finally put to bed this Aokofag vs Rinfag autism

>>39845745
It's only tangentially related to what the poster had said.

>> No.39846152

>>39846100
gm arachbro

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>> No.39846239

I will never stop being mad about how Ufotable changed that Rin's reaction in the anime.

>> No.39846246

>>39846135
That was a wormfag.
>t. Aokoposter

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>> No.39846281

>>39846262
God, he is so HOT.

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thoughts on this?

>> No.39846305

>>39846246
Apologies to Aokobros then. How can you tell though?

>> No.39846412

>>39846305
I cannot be certain that it isn't another Aokofriend, but it isn't me, you have my word there. I do worry that there is a falseflagger, which sucks.

>> No.39846564

>>39846412
That's certainly a possibility. Frankly I probably shouldn't've bit the bait as well.

>> No.39846648

>>39846564
Yeah, best to leave filth alone.

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>> No.39846875

What are your unpopular nasuverse opinions and hot takes?

>> No.39846885

>>39846875
Mine would be too hot even (or specially) for this place.

>> No.39846887

>>39846875
i do not like rin

>> No.39846889

>>39846875
Fate anime onlies often have better takes than VN readers. HF3 is the best one of the trilogy. Tsukihime didn't need a remake.

>> No.39846892

>>39846875
I kind of like the Tsukihime anime and have watched it multiple times.

>> No.39846897

>>39846875
My "hot take" is that I absolutely hate how "take" has this common usage nowadays. I know it's irrational, but it just sounds retarded. I make sure to say perspective, opinion, etc. instead.

>> No.39846899

>>39846875
>>39846885
Nevermind. I have some other hot takes:
1. I loved Fate/stay night (2006).
2. Today's Menu for the Emiya Family is my favourite Fate anime, period.

>> No.39846911

>>39846889
>Fate anime onlies often have better takes than VN readers. HF3 is the best one of the trilogy.

Wanna know how we know you're not a primary?

>> No.39846915

>>39846875
I actually think Castoria is good

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>> No.39846927

>>39846911
Not him, but he is right on the latter part. HF3 is the best one merely because the other two suck more, most of HF3 problems (aside from Kirei fight) are because of the lack of proper set up in the first two movies.
Not sure about the "anime onlies better than VN readers though", I hate both of them.

>> No.39846934

>>39846875
I wish people would stop doing this when their ADHD kicks in, let the place be slow for once.

>> No.39846960

I watched HF3 straight after rereading HF and liked it.

>> No.39846967

>>39846927
>>39846911
Go ahead, tell me

>>39846927
>HF3 is the best one merely because the other two suck more, most of HF3 problems (aside from Kirei fight) are because of the lack of proper set up in the first two movies.
Precisely. The first two movies butcher Kirei, Illya and Rin. The sisters' relationship fucking sucks. There is no conflict and many of its nuances are gone. Aside from the Kirei fight, HF3 does most of its material fine enough.

>Not sure about the "anime onlies better than VN readers though", I hate both of them.
Hence the "often" there. Anime onlies have much less to go on than VN readers. VN readers have access to far more information yet still manage to shit out all sorts of rancid takes.

>> No.39846992

Are Nasuverse fans ever happy?

>> No.39846997

>>39846992
I was happen when the remake came out. Now I'm just anxious for red garden so when that comes out I will be happy again.

>> No.39847086

>>39846967
That's because your interactions with anime secondaries are very limited, while discussions with VN readers, so it's just a matter of sampling where you see the best of anime fags and the worst of VN readers. Most of animefags were cancer or Zerofags who are genuinely retarded.

>> No.39847352
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>>39846992
I am happy when I see him happy

>> No.39847382

>>39846992
I am constantly angry. Nasu being a faggot has nothing to do with that.

>> No.39847399

>>39846875
The Melty Blood story mode is better than most Nasuverse works.

>> No.39847492

>>39846875
KnK sucks and Ryougi is very overrated

>> No.39847582

>>39846875
Last Encore is the best fate anime and is better than the original Extra

>> No.39847627

>>39847582
>better than the original Extra
wow

>> No.39847638
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Koha Ace Aoko is cute

>> No.39847649

>>39846899
Neither of these are hot takes.

>> No.39847713

>>39846875
Strange Fake and Case Files are bad

>> No.39847738

>>39847638
archer and lancer staring at each other pretty gayly here

>> No.39847746

>>39847649
Maybe I should have said "unpopular opinion" for those two.

>> No.39847996

>>39847638
Cu's ass is very cute here.

>> No.39848020

>>39847649
>>39847746
UBW is all killer and no filler without a single flaw unlike Fate/HF

>> No.39848046

>>39848020
OK.

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>>39848020

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>>39848046
>>39848071
Do we need to go over again why Gilgamesh vs Shirou is the peak of Fate's characters, themes, and writing? UBW Archer warns that following his ideals and becoming a hero of justice is bad, Shirou denies this and continues, overcoming both "himself" and "the impossible reality of the world" through beating EMIYA and Gilgamesh

Fate and HF was full of unnecessary filler and Isekai tier unessacary and painfully long lore dumps and I mean like the worst Isekai's

>> No.39848191

>>39848071
>virgin by choice
>has a successful career and his own home
Maybe the funniest part in this.

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>>39848172

>> No.39848271 [SPOILER] 
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secret best girls never get routes.

>> No.39848278
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Gay vampire

>> No.39848289

>>39848278
Are there LGBBQT Type-Moon characters that are not rapey?

>> No.39848334

>>39848020
I would hardly say UBW is without a single flaw (first thing that comes to mind is that the ending isn't enough to offer full closure but that was fixed with the anime epilogue) but I do think it's without any major flaws like Fate and HF.

>>39846875
Despite how much I adore Kirei, ultimately the cult surrounding him is the result of broad segments of the Fate fanbase wanting to distance themselves away from the fact that FSN is a bishoujo game and the romances are central to the story.

>>39847086
Kinda true I admit. Nonetheless most anime onlies stick to themselves and are nowhere near as opinionated as your average VN reader, who by mere value of having read the VN thinks he's hot shit and a genius.

>> No.39848389

>>39845614
I really think they were right. Gook didn't actually read it, did he? I think he gets all his info from the wiki and what he learns here or other websites. Keeps missing obvious details spelled out in the text.

>> No.39848442

>>39847738
They just want to fight.

>> No.39848443

>>39848278
ciel cute

>> No.39848488
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Why is Shirou like this?

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>>39842675

NIISAN FUCK ME WHILE WE WE'RE HAVING SLEEPING TOHNO MANSION SLEEPOEVER

>> No.39848595

do we have elitists translation in here?

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/98344416

>> No.39848635

>>39848278
I wish there's at least one scene where these two get along.

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>>39848172
Imagine reading the VN on one of these screens with this resolution phew

>> No.39848706
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>> No.39848747

>>39848442
Fencing.

>> No.39848748

>>39848595
>elitists

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>>39848172

I swear if I ever rented a theater it's definitely going to be playing tm vn's on the big screen

>> No.39848808

>>39848595
No there's only laypers here

>> No.39848985

Why is being a gook bad in /tmg/

>> No.39848992

>>39848985
We're racist like Nasu.

>> No.39849007

>>39848992
Seems unwarranted :(

>> No.39849015

>>39849007
Never forget.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule

>> No.39849107

>>39845690
archer is a wholesome virgin while shirou is a dirty manwhore

>> No.39849114

>>39849107
>shirou is a dirty manwhore
>[citation needed]

>> No.39849166

>>39848985
>THE GOOK
Fixed that for you. It's the nature of their posting, not their origin.

>> No.39849193

>>39849107
Archer had a lover though.

>> No.39849201

>>39849193
OH NO HE IS SUMMONING THEM

>> No.39849452

>>39849193
Friends with benefits. Nothing more. Archer has impregnated a lot of women.

>> No.39849493

Maybe the real gook is the friends we made along the way

>> No.39849594

>>39849452
Archer can't impregnate anybody because his magic is basically like radiation to his balls.

>> No.39849610

>>39847996
type cu in google translate and set it to portuguese for a surprise. Unless you meant it and already know

>> No.39849615

>>39849452
>>39849193
>>39849594
Destined to be forever alone and betrayed, he fucked random thots and dudes at every port. No one special, he would know nothing sweet. His hands would never hold anything more meaningful than an npc. His life kind of sucked. He is now everyone's mother. What did Nasu mean by this?

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They remind me of female versions of Alucard and Anderson

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>>39848278
why isn't there more girl-on-girl art of these two? Their sapphic aura is super strong.

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>>39849963
Arc gets pretty gay at times but Ciel just wants her to go away

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>>39849963
>Sapphic Aura
There is plenty of art. It's just overshadowed because these two fighting over the same dude in canon has permeated everyone's consciousness. Thus we mostly get Pic Related which is better anyway.

>> No.39850059

>>39850046
for me its ciel doggy

>> No.39850123

>>39849963
>Their sapphic aura is super strong.
>[citation needed]

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>>39850059

>> No.39850152

>>39849615
>he fucked random dudes at every port
Dumb fujo/homo.

>> No.39850157

what fate character would make the cutest dog objectively

>> No.39850181
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>>39850046
It's a good yuriship, ArcShiki and CielShiki are just really, really strong right now.

>> No.39850192

>>39850157
Cu

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>>39850007
It's not like Ciel needs to be forced into playing with other girls, though.

>> No.39850307

Tsuki lesbo shipping is kinda better because of how ridiculous it is. Most of the girls would prefer to murder each other than anything lmao. Hell, most of them kill Shiki too.

>> No.39850314

>>39850157
I can't believe my purple puppy has worms.

>> No.39850321

>>39850307
Well, at least Akiha/Kohaku has some degree of canonicity.

>> No.39850327

i wanna fuck ciel so bad bros

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>>39850307
But it's exactly because sex and murder is so close together (even in the canon) that the girls have such strong lesbo energy with each other. Don't tell me that you didn't entertain the idea at least once, that their enmity could be solved with a vigorous night of cooming and making love.

>> No.39850372

>>39850365
Dumb yurifag.

>> No.39850380

>>39850372
That's not even really yuri, everyone is trying to kill everyone except like, Hisui. Arc is wet because Shiki killed her that one time.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhAcoQuGfHg

A dumb fandisk had no right to have an OST as good as Hollow Ataraxia's.

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>>39850389
I disagree with it being a dumb fandisc but I love the OST too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwr1r6ZJqfE

>> No.39850443

>>39847399
You know what? I don't think I disagree with you. The original Melty Blood story is damn solid, fun, and can be enjoyed self contained even if you know jack shit about everything else. The branching paths are also much more apparent so it doesn't feel like guess work.

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>>39850419
I was just being a bit cheeky, anon.

One of the greatest weaknesses of the adaptations is probably how little they capture of the atmosphere of the original's OST. Especially the nighttime bits. Same goes for the edgy bits, too, but at least those had an excuse of not being able to be shown in anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpsfTkcDONI

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>>39850365
I never had this though cross my mind while playing even once. Drag your ass back to /u/ faglord.

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>>39850481
Shut up, Rin.

>> No.39850520

>>39850481
Not them.
>Drag your ass back to /u/ faglord.
Cringe.

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>>39850493
Rin is 100% straight. Fucking saber was a dominance move. Like most rape.

>> No.39850539
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Give me your cutest teenage Taigas.

>> No.39850545
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Here, have a smug Saber.

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>>39850493
Rin canonically hates /u/rifags, though.

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>>39850545
Are we posting our smug pics?

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>>39850548
Yeah, yeah, sure.

>> No.39850573

>>39850558
Liking women ≠ Liking yurifags.

>> No.39850578

>>39850481
>He says as he posts the canonical gay girl

>> No.39850637

>>39850470
I've always felt that the urban nighttime "feel" is a defining part of TM VNs

>> No.39850640

I'm surprised that Fate is the Type-Moon series with most homoerotic subtext in the original two works (Fate/stay night and Fate/hollow ataraxia) and yet it became their most popular series. One would expect the opposite.

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>>39850637
I feel like it could be done in anime form (Boogiepop Phantom did it really well), but if they went for that sort of atmosphere it would suffer in terms of appeal. Shounen sells better than slow and atmospheric shows, even if the latter usually have a better critical reception.

>> No.39850678

>>39850654
I don't think it would translate well to anime. I think that when you're reading a VN, you want to really "hear" the music as part of the overall experience, but in an anime episode or OVA, you don't want the music to be too noticeable because you're trying to focus on the action onscreen, if that makes sense.

>> No.39850686

>>39850678
Not him.
>but in an anime episode or OVA, you don't want the music to be too noticeable because you're trying to focus on the action onscreen, if that makes sense
I couldn't disagree with this more even if I tried.

>> No.39850698

>>39850678
I was talking moreso about the atmoshpere than the music in particular, though I get what you mean. Even so, I can't agree with you, either, music can absolutely be an important element with a lot of presence. //.hack/SIGN comes to mind, the music is amazing and plays super loud in most scenes, and it somehow works.

>> No.39850726

>>39849963
are you living under a rock? There's a lot of art of them being gay. Go luck for it.

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>>39850443
Yup, it also has strong character moments for Sion and Shiki. Sion is an underrated character for how well her story is told. Not to mention how music is used in the story mode to enhance fights and make them special.

>> No.39850744

>>39850686
>>39850698
Maybe I just chose my words poorly, not sure how to explain it. For example, I always get a melancholic night-walk vibe from Track 08 in Tsuki, but would it work in a hypothetical anime? Not sure - it could just be a matter of creating a good arrangement.

>> No.39850751

>>39850481
even Nasu knows that violence is related to sex he talks about characters acting on their violent impulses like a sexual impulse and the like.

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>>39850539

>> No.39850800
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>>39850751
IIRC the VN even did the Nier Automata thing with "did the censored bits say kill or fuck"? almost two decades sooner, the part where Shiki stalks Arc under the influence of his Nanaya blood comes to mind in particular.

>> No.39850828

>>39850751
it's even in his notes for Arc route
>Arc’s dissection scene. I want to get across the eroticism of Arc’s body and blood.
>I want to make the users taste the same feeling as Shiki who, in his abnormality, revels in dissecting a beautiful body. Sharing in that feeling of immorality, becoming complicit. As to make the ownership of that sin, and its toll, an actuality.
>This is also a matter which will greatly determine the nature of the game, so I’ll make sure to discuss it.
>The date with Arc, from the pretend play that almost became a serious act of bloodsucking to the attempted assault in the back-alley. Oh, that means that both Shiki and Arc are doing the same thing, biologically speaking. The me from back then is scary. I plotted that without realising at all. How dangerous.
You've actually gotta be fucking blind to miss it

>> No.39850846

>>39850828
where can you read his route notes?

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>>39850800
>IIRC the VN even did the Nier Automata thing with "did the censored bits say kill or fuck"? almost two decades sooner
Why is it a "Nier Automata" thing?

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>>39850850

>> No.39850861

>>39850851
Much more people know it from Nier Automata than they do from the Tsukihime VN.

>> No.39850878

>>39850846
idk where you would find the original one but there was a translation on beasts lair I remembered.
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/8996-Tsukihime-Tsuushin-R-Nasu-Kinoko-s-Arcueid-Route-Memo

>> No.39850908

>>39850878
fuck off petrilow

>> No.39850923

>>39850908
I don't even know who these people are

>> No.39850935

>>39850908
What did he do?

By the way, I just checked and even though natsuhiko kyogoku is said to be a huge inspiration for Nasu I can't find a single translated work of his on the usual sites. Bummer.

>> No.39850952

>>39850470
Midnight Interval is a great track. I think the first two tracks that come to mind when I think of FSN's atmosphere are Wandering Shadow and Shinshoku~Shinshoku 2.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CSyaENS3_2s
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=906QwGwN9pQ

>> No.39851011

>>39850952
I'm yet to see any of the HF films so I don't know if they incorporated it, but Trespassing (Shinshoku) is such a creepy track. I love it.

Tracks that come to my mind besides these...Deep Slumber is definitely one of them, as is Spiral of Fate, Madder Red Town, Peaceful Scenery, and Pursuing Minds lmao. Into the Night and Extra are also obvious answers.

>> No.39851096

>>39850935
There's always the anime.

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>>39846875
I enjoy all of Nasu's works.

Including the anime and manga adaptions.

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>>39851110
including the gacha?

>> No.39851186

>>39850443
Agreed. OG MB is basically a VN one of the best stories. It's literally Sion's tsuki route. Though I guess MB in general is.

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>>39850157

>> No.39851241

>>39850751
Sure, absolutely. But that doesn't extend to every bout of violence between any character. It's most present and imperative to the relationship between Arc and Shiki. I'll always be surprised that Nasu didn't realize what he wrote because the duality of these two and the importance of sexual tension, violent urges and their true nature contrasted with overcoming it all helped define their love and romance as being so compelling and beautiful. Nasu kinda based.

>> No.39851335

>>39851133
Why is castoriaposter so rapeable

>> No.39851348

>>39851335
they're like a sad little dog that doesn't realize where it is and keeps barking in order to get attention. It's cute to me.

>> No.39851359

Why is everybody gay (or straight) for Castoriaposter now?

>> No.39851365

>>39851241
well yeah, not all of it, but you can see the clear sexual tension between Arc and Ciel with Arc mentioning not feeling this kind of tension/high in a long time in a sexual way. Nasu is pretty clear on when it becomes sexual.

>> No.39851382

>>39851365
See, I wouldn't say it's clear sexual tension. You can headcanon it is and even argue that the writer may want to tease that but to say it's anything other than antagonism is not reality.

>> No.39851456

>>39851365
Ciel is special, other than Shiki she's the only one who Arc really acknowledges as such. Obviously not in the same capacity however. Arc doesn't want to fuck Ciel. She's jealous, riled up, frustrated and wants to assert dominance. Ciel actually gets under her skin and Arc is also a battle junkie who likes payback. She wants prove that she's stronger, better and to in general humiliate Ciel/trample on her pride. It's a beautiful and distorted rivalry turned friendship more than anything.

>> No.39851500

>>39851382
>>39851456
Either you guys are acting like dense harem protags or I'm wrong. Anyone else find TA Arc and Ciel talking to each other when they fight each other kinda sexual in Melty Blood AACC arcade mode? That's the one I'm referring to as an example.

>> No.39851505

>>39851500
Kys homosexual. Your mind is rotten.

>> No.39851515

>>39851500
>MB arcade shit
That's just fan service.

>> No.39851527

>>39851382
>>39851456
It's not the same as with Shiki and it's not actually romantic, but there's pretty obvious vibes when Arc gets Warc-y, even if it's completely one-sided.
In reality it's just a somewhat one-sided obsession from Arc to break Ciel as her favorite toy and things related to Ciel, but still. Thought that counts.

>> No.39851534

I fucking HATE Ciel and I fucking HATE curry

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>> No.39851549

>>39851505
>>39851515
Huh, could've sworn Arc says that Ciel is special in the same way Shiki is to her. Could it be lost in translation or am I making things up? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfzSzFdadr0&ab_channel=Austin

>> No.39851564

>>39851549
timestamp this shit nigga

>> No.39851572

>>39851534
and i hate YOU

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>>39851538
So gay

>> No.39851618

>>39851527
I mean, I actually agree with this though? Kind of? You have the reality of what it really is and then the meta subtext(vibes I guess?) the author is leaving in the air if you so wish to see it that way. Like, sure, it's meant to be a sexual cast of characters with all the blood, vampire themes, violence and what have you. That extends to Shiki, Akiha, all of them mostly. It's just looking at it in terms of the story it's not really there since the conflict and nature of their relationship isn't about an attraction or anything between them. They do go from enemies to frienemies to sister-wives anyway so whatever lol. Part of Ciel's Melty story arc is coming to coexist with Arc.

>> No.39851623
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Armfit

>> No.39851651

>>39851623
What am I looking at?

>> No.39851657

armpits are gay

>> No.39851662

>>39851657
Good.

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>>39851651
Literally armfit

>> No.39851735

>>39850935
>What did he do?
he's an attention whore

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>> No.39851790

https://twitter.com/geno_cl/status/1526608490411610114?s=21&t=U6I-aOgHbZW3KLp5BSJsZw

>> No.39851852
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never forget

>> No.39851921
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Hmm...fat Aoko.

>> No.39851922

>>39851921
nice translation

>> No.39851932

>>39851921
based

>> No.39851953
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>> No.39851957

>>39851667
Artist?

>> No.39851964

>>39851921
It's okay, all of it goes to her boobs.

>> No.39851975

>>39851964
can you provide proof of that?

>> No.39852004

someone post that red arc+shiki fanart where she's got him chained up and wrapped around him while they are fighting.

>> No.39852022
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>>39851975

>> No.39852046

https://twitter.com/L0annes/status/1526523392244912129/photo/1

>> No.39852053

>>39852022
Good point. Still not fully convinced however.

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>>39851852
Lesbo Armfit

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>>39845922

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>>39845976
>>39845922

>> No.39852214

>>39851921
Aoko has full control over managing her physique.
So she can really eat as much as she likes, and can just burn the food into mana.

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>>39852053
Just look at the original cover art!

>> No.39852482

>>39852412
>>39852022
What is flatties problem?

>> No.39852525
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>>39852482
...nothing.

>> No.39852609

alice best mahoyo

>> No.39852658

>>39852482
I don't see any flatties there.

>> No.39853518

>>39846875
Gilgamesh isn't an asshole, he is just misunderstood

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>> No.39853610

>>39853518
You may think you can save him, but in reality you will never be a woman

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>> No.39853876

>>39853611
artist?

>> No.39853882

>>39853876
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/44142028

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>>39852004
this?

>> No.39853933

>>39853889
Yes thank you<3

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>>39853933
still think it's crazy that shiki doesn't have a warc reaction in TL but Nasu's probably saving it for half vampire

>> No.39854261

>>39854008
Don't they have unique battle dialogue? i can't remember if they have anything special for arc drives, intro, outros or anything. I think Red Arc has a specific quote for Shiki on her last arc but maybe not the other way around. I hope we get vampire Shiki. I wonder if we will!?

>> No.39854448

Anyone know whether Garden of Avalon has been translated by a human somwhere?
BeastLair said only 3 chapters were left, but the mongoltards didn't bother saying where the TL is

>> No.39854467
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT NO WAY THEY HAD SEX NASU?

>> No.39854522

>>39854448
So I checked out the one translation done by the reddit MTL guy
Don't bother with that one. It's beyond garbage...

>> No.39854624

>>39854448
They probably meant the reddit one. No one else is going to translate it so that's your only option currently.
Or you can learn the language of course.

>> No.39854645

>>39847582
No it's not, Last Encore is trash.

>> No.39854713

>>39854645
No it's good

>> No.39854784

>>39854261
Red Arc has a lot of dialogue for Shiki but he has none for her

>> No.39854876

>>39854713
It's not.

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Zelretch And Arcueid

>> No.39855439

>>39854876
It is.

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Is Rin a bigger prodigy sue than Hermione from Harry Potter?

>> No.39855895

>>39855826
No because the tohsaka gene ensures she fucks up when it counts the most.

>> No.39855897

>>39855826
>prodigy sue
Dunno what that is but the scene in the anime where Rin tries on the glasses was cute and hot

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>>39855826
Dunno, but Rin is hotter than her.

>> No.39855954

>>39855943
I'd impregnate both desu

>> No.39856013

>>39855895
That's not actually a thing though -- Rin just feels insecure about her own abilities and lacks self-esteem. It's just something she uses to reproach herself over her failures, real and imagined.

>> No.39856091

>>39855439
It's not.

>> No.39856271

>>39855439
>>39856091
Instead of repeating "It is" "It is not", state your reasons you fucking retards.

>> No.39856409

Remember when Nasu mentioned considering a futa H-scene between Arc and Ciel? Yeah, no sexual tension to be read at all. Especially not in the same world where Akiha wants to "break" Seo "just because".

>> No.39856447

>>39856013
Rin's potential is sue-ish, though.

>> No.39856542

>Medea > you
>Merlin is the bestest mage
>No, tis Solomon!
>NO! IT IS ZELRETCH!!!

s i g h

>> No.39856577

>>39856409
typical eroge fanservice garbage, good thing the best version of tsukihime is removing all of that unnecessary crap.

>> No.39856679

>>39856409
Based literal yurifag.

>> No.39856685

>>39856577
Yeah, but sometimes I wonder how much of it is just fanservice, and how much of it Nasu/Takeuchi inserting their random fetishes even when it doesn't fit, and which parts of these are actually the weird part of the characters.

>> No.39857014

>>39846875
The UBW 2014 TV anime designs for Rin is one of the best ones and the one for the HF movies is the single worst one of them all. Aside from her body, her face looks like trash. They gave one of the most expressive characters in FSN a resting bitch face.

>>39856447
Being a Mary Sue is about the absense of flaws, not one's competence per se.

>> No.39857053

>>39857014
>The UBW 2014 TV anime designs for Rin is one of the best ones

But her nose!

>> No.39857071

There's really a retard calling Tohsaka a Mary sue when Ryougi is right there lmao

>> No.39857100

>>39857071
Ryougi isn't any less of a "Mary sue" than Shirou or Shiki. You really should stop picking up on her like that.

>> No.39857107

>>39856447
being a sue isn't a about power

>> No.39857261

>>39857053
...looks fine 90% of the time. Strange how butthurt people got over a few frames in the early episodes. Meanwhile HF Rin only really looks good the closer she looks to Tabata's design. Funny how non-Rinfags seem to whine much, MUCH harder about her UBW design while fawning over her shitty HF design. Do people really not get the character that hard?

>>39857071
People keep saying this but I don't get how Ryougi is a Mary Sue.

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They are so cute

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>>39857276
They deserved that amusement park after school playdate, damn you Nasu!

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>> No.39857604

>>39857564
Shinji's Hanafuda ending.

>> No.39857807

>>39857014
>Being a Mary Sue is about the absense of flaws
It has taken on new meanings. Also don't pretend that her potential isn't flawless and highly coveted by the Clocktower.
>>39857107
Well now it is. Flawless prodigies are gay.

>> No.39857829

>>39857807
>It has taken on new meanings.
No, it hasn't. It's about a character without meaningful flaws that warps the story, the rules of the story and the characters around them to extreme degree. It is not a synonym for "when the female has strong powers"

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explain this

>> No.39857855

>>39857829
I'm sorry, but Rin is flawless.

>> No.39857892

>>39857829
>It is not a synonym for "when the female has strong powers"
lol

>> No.39857934

>>39857852
explain what

>> No.39857990

>>39857852
good stuff

>> No.39858064

>>39857852
>no shiki x arcueid doujin
>full of yuri garbage
>fgo??
i thought we are supposed to get good doujin after the release of the remake but so far it's been very lackluster.

>> No.39858073

>>39858064
18+ doujinshi are dead for anything that's not a gacha.

>> No.39858077
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>>39857852
Honorary Tsukihime girl

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>>39857852

Tsukihime has changed.

It's no longer about rape, rape or rape. It's an endless series of yuris bought by fans and depressed fans.

Tsukihime and it's consumption of doujins has become niche

Tsukihime has changed.

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>>39858064
>no Arach doujins
>no Mio doujins
>no Saiki doujins
what went so fucking wrong?

>> No.39858111

>>39857829
Explain to me how Rin isn't too good for her age?

She fucking BTFO'd Medea, of all people. Honestly sickening writing.

>> No.39858113

>>39857829
>Rin is bad because of what she might be like in the future instead of in the actual story
What?

>>39857855
How is she flawless lmao

>> No.39858121

>>39858073
dissapointing. i suppose they will get more doujin when they drop into the gacha, not sure if i should be happy or sad about that. oh well at least we got that akiha doujin.

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>>39858111
>punches an old hag
Rin too OP, nerf fucking when Nasu?

>> No.39858129

>>39858111
>She fucking BTFO'd Medea
She literally just kicked her wow.

>> No.39858153

illya is superior to rin at magic and does not come across as sue-ish to me

>> No.39858167

Mary sue = female character I don't like

There, simplified the discussion for you guys.

>> No.39858172

>>39858167
This but ironically.

>> No.39858177

>>39858167
>Ryougi was actually a Mary Sue
I can't believe /tmg/ was actually right...

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There's no way the people respected a king that was only 154 cm.

>> No.39858208

>>39858111
Again, not what that means.

>> No.39858211

>>39858198
People were manlets back in those days.

>> No.39858214

>>39858064
Cielfags won the long game

>> No.39858218

>>39858208
She has flawless capabilities for her age, spaz. No flaws to her character except for loltsundere.

>> No.39858221

>>39858198
There's no way the people respected a king that was female.

>> No.39858236

>>39858167
They just say that because they can't self insert as her. She isn't that much stronger than Tohno and doesn't get too many asspulls like Shirou.

>> No.39858241

>>39858218
The entire "LARP as a cold magus" thing is a character flaw, but I guess that doesn't count because lolreasons

>> No.39858244

>>39858214
>2 Arc/Ciel, new so doing hot
>3 Shiki/Ciel, still up there
>still no Noel
It's OVER...

>> No.39858248

>>39858241
Retard

>> No.39858252

>>39858218
You have to be trolling. Fuck, you're falseflagger trying to start shit between Aokofags and Rinfags aren't you?

>> No.39858254

How accurate is my list of /tmg/'s favorite girls of each TM work?
>Mahoyo
Aoko
>Tsukihime
Ciel
>Fate
Rin
>F/GO
Castoria

>> No.39858263

>>39858252
They're on fire today, literally trying to start every war possible.

>> No.39858264

>>39858252
>You have to be trolling
"I don't like you, therefore troll >:("

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>>39858254
/tmg/ is an alice general.

>> No.39858306

>>39858153
That's because Rin is used as exposition girl. Touko also comes off as sue-ish in KnK

>> No.39858318

>>39858254
r w r lol

>> No.39858329
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What's your favourite non-erotic CG from either of the Fate VNs?

>> No.39858331

>>39858306
How the hell is Touko a Sue?

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>>39858331
Not him but he's probably thinking of her supreme confidence, knowledge, and ability to outplay everyone in 4D chess.

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>>39858329

>> No.39858372

>>39858254
I think it's Arc. One schizo keep spamming doesn't mean much.
>>39858276
You wish lol.

>> No.39858377

>>39858355
I don't know if the movies mention it but it's made even more painful when you realize that the Illya line of homunculi are all modeled after the one Zouken fell in love with. Justeaze was her name, I think?

>> No.39858386

>>39858355
All the best CGs are realta nua.

>> No.39858393

>>39858386
Which CGs were added in realta nua? I read the non-RN version of the Fate route, so I wonder if I missed out on some CGs.

>> No.39858396

>>39858377
It makes you realize that the entire Matou family are cucks.

>> No.39858397 [SPOILER] 
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>>39858329

>> No.39858405

>>39858397
It's cute but IIRC it's ruined because that's where Rin says that Sakura never had a reason to be upset or something.

>> No.39858428

>>39858393
The realta nua section of world material has all the added assets.

>> No.39858437

ywn be force fed sakura's pussy worms

>> No.39858476

>>39858405
If you mean:
> …Then…
>The one that’s weak, the one at fault, isn’t her world…
>…But her, the coward who couldn’t look up

>And there were people who clumsily loved her.
>“But... I destroyed them.”
>…Where did she go wrong?
>She had everything.
>Everything she wanted was actually right there in front of her.
>They loved her and embraced her so kindly.
>But she destroyed it all herself.
Then it was Sakura who said it (or rather the narration which is also coming from her).

>> No.39858492

Crest Worms make no sense.

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>>39858329
I will never not cry

>> No.39858508

>>39858476
No, that's not it. They embrace and Rin says something to the effect of "you never had a reason to be upset" or something victim blame-y like that

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The fact that Saber is actually in her 30s and falls in love with a high-school boy makes me unreasonably horny.

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>> No.39858533

>>39858529
ew

>> No.39858539

>>39858528
What's our source for the length of her reign?

>> No.39858542

>>39858508
You must be mixing it with something else then, just reread it and there is no such thing.

>> No.39858544

>>39858528
she's mentally a teenager still, obviously, since that's how the grail works

>> No.39858550

>>39858529
Hot.

>> No.39858560

>>39858508
>"I like you, Sakura. I've always watched you, and I wanted you to smile. …Yeah. I wanted to believe that you had it better the more I suffered.
>I was so preoccupied with that, so I didn't even have time to think about if it was painful or not."

>She embraces Sakura with love.
>A once-in-a-lifetime embrace between sisters.
>She softly embraces her sister, who pierced her stomach, and holds her there like a treasure.

>"Nee——san——"
>……Her warmth fades.
>There's no complaint.
>Tohsaka Rin regrets, not her death, but her inability to save her sister.

>"I'm sorry I'm a selfish sister.
>…And thanks. I'm glad you always wore that ribbon."

She says Sakura has no reason to complain now that she has merged with her Shadow during their fight but not their embrace.

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https://twitter.com/metancone/status/1526974027730132992?s=21&t=VC4VGY1vHDT68NhnxvF23A

>> No.39858594

>>39858397
Man, I swear Rin's voice in that scene is the warmest thing ever. I kinda pity people who read FSN in 2004 and didn't get to read it with voices.

>> No.39858611

Has there been indication that there's gonna be a 20th Type-Moon anniversary popularity poll this year or no?

>> No.39858617

>>39858560
I can't find it, either. Did I hypnotize myself into believing she said something insensitive all those years ago, when I read the VN?

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>>39856577
Eroge fanservice is fun though. Its what makes TM vns fun to read since they don't always take themselves too seriously.

>> No.39858669

>>39858611
Doesn’t seem like they’re even acknowledging it’s 20th anniversary. Maybe they’ll talk about it during FGO’s 7th anniversary stream?

>> No.39858768

>>39858611
Highly doubt it, they don't seem to be interested in these kind of things anymore. Imagine if they added fgo characters in the poll though, it would be a mess.

>> No.39858790

>>39858669
That's a shame. I kinda wanted to see the results, preferably with some kind of regional breakdown to get a sense for Japan vs American (vs European?) vs etc., differences.

>>39851011
Sorry for the very late reply but I suspect there is one scene where they added a HEAVILY modified version of Shinshoku (surely I'm not the only one who thinks Sakura's dream had a cheerful version of Shinshoku playing, did I...?). Aside from Deep Slumber and the aforemention tracks, Ever-Present Feeling (God I love the UBW confession scene), This illusion (the sad version) and All the Evils of the World are the peak for me.

>> No.39858804

>>39854784
Super lazy on some parts of TL like lifting scenarios lol.

>> No.39858853

Was it ever explained why masters dream of the pasts of their servants?

>> No.39858889

>>39858853
Because that's the plot.
You can see this from how conveniently it's used, like Shirou only dreams of Saber in Fate route, Rin dreams of Archer only in UBW, Sakura doesn't even dream of Medusa since she irrelevant to the story.

>> No.39858902

>>39858889
>Rin dreams of Archer only in UBW, Sakura doesn't even dream of Medusa
You don't know that. You, as a reader, simply aren't shown that information all the time.

>> No.39858913

>>39858853
To unveil plot backstory. It's just because of the master-servant link.

>> No.39858940

>>39858902
Well, we know about Shirou for sure, and the rest are by extension I guess. Also Rin talks about Archer in Fate route after his death and she didn't seem to know much about his past.

>> No.39858975

>>39858853
>>39858889
>>39858902
>>39858913
>>39858940
It's random. Gachashit describes dream/daydreams as a common product of the mental link between contracted servant and master. It's a temporary sharing of memory and records that involuntarily leak.

>> No.39858984

>>39858975
FGO isn't canon

>> No.39859006

>>39858975
>mental link between contracted servant and master

Demolition Man-esque mental sekkusu with a servant when?

>> No.39859040

>>39858975
must be hard being FGO-kun, getting dreams about 200+ different mentally ill freaks

>> No.39859044

>>39859006
Never. It's not the 90's/mid 2000's anymore

>> No.39859046

https://twitter.com/lemolemo_lmn/status/1441394671486337025?s=21&t=26VAyv_W3JTK4kbml9eucA

>> No.39859052

>>39858889
>>39858913
>>39858902
Don't forget that insides Shirous body is Avalon hence a deeper connection to Saber, which gets cut when she's taken away. And ofc the Ruby pendants between Archer and Rin, since he carried it to the day he died and as a CG.

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>>39852482
she wants Souji to pay attention to her chest.

>> No.39859148

I want to lick Rider's abs and navel

>> No.39859149

>>39859148
No you don't

>> No.39859157

>>39859148
t. Waver

>> No.39859158 [DELETED] 

>>39859148
We know, Rin.

>> No.39859160

>>39855534
SHIKI nipple.

>> No.39859169

>>39857014
Not only Rin, the designs are better in general. UBW TV looked perfect, I don't know why they were degraded in HF.

>> No.39859171

>>39855554
Bros... why am I attracted to this?

>> No.39859181

>>39859171
It's your inner nasu.

>> No.39859185

>>39856447
being a sue is being both flawless and the center of the story where each character is asking where Rin is and what she's doing. The story doesn't revolve around her with everyone else being drooling retards that follow her every word. She has issues and things to struggle with mentally and most of the characters of F/SN are capable enough to do their own thing an not have to think or speak about Rin 24/7.

>> No.39859189

>>39855943
Nasu Harry Potter VN, when?

>> No.39859203

>>39858085
underrated post.

>> No.39859217
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39859217

>>39858329
The way this CG is built up after seeing EMIYA's back when he acts like a hero/talks to Shirou is brilliant. Seeing Shirou surpass him and hold that mantle since no one else will was kino.

>> No.39859223

>>39858617
you did, think you're talking about the game reprimanding Sakura for acting out and losing everything in the end after Rin 'dies'. Always seemed a bit strange and Nasu having Sakura take the blame for everything in a victim blaming way while not critiquing Rin for not communicating with Sakura well. You could see Nasu's bias for Rin there.

>> No.39859224
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39859224

>>39859217
That's from the Nine Lives Blade Works sequence, right?

>> No.39859238

>>39859223
Maybe it was just an extension of my dislike of how needlessly edgy she wrote some of Rin's line in the latter half of the route. Like one of my primary problems with HF is how contrived Rin's character becomes when she not only switches to "mage mode", but Nasu goes out of his way to write her as an "asshole mage" for the sake of drama. It felt OOC and edgy in a bad way.

>> No.39859251

>>39859238
*some of Rin's lines

>> No.39859264

>>39859238
yeah, I get the point of it since it creates conflict and shows the separation between the two sisters. Would've rather had them have a relationship like Hisui and Kohaku with them not really talking to each other and their relationship being vague without Rin's edgy comments until the end when it shows that Rin truly did care for Sakura since she always kept tabs on Sakura early in the story. Maybe add lines of Rin wanting to protect the town people over Sakura and showing her lament over having to kill Sakura. I could buy Rin faking her magus mode, but the bad end of Rin actually killing Sakura in mind of steel ruins it since she fully embraces her mask of a magus there and regrets it later which is too little to late for me.

>> No.39859265

>>39859238
>OOC and edgy
It was her own fucking sister that had all the evils of the world inside of her. Rin wasn't as optimistic about Sakura being saved which is why she hardened and toughened herself up even more than usual. Sounds more like it went completely over your head.

>> No.39859272

>>39859238
Some lines like what? All what she had said and done aligns pretty well with her already established character and didn't seem edgy in any way. The story even goes out of its way to show the reader her reasons and that she doesn't like it.

>> No.39859282

>>39859272
Forgot to add: I get why some people would hate her for it, but I wouldn't call it ooc or anything.

>> No.39859296

>>39859264
>Maybe add lines of Rin wanting to protect the town people over Sakura and showing her lament over having to kill Sakura
There are plenty of these. Like, really a lot.

>> No.39859313
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39859313

>>39858329

>> No.39859327

>>39859265
How did it go over my head when it was not her having to be tough that I found less than stellar, but the way it was executed?

>>39859272
I can't remember any, only that I had that impression of her attitude. I know she had her reasons but some of her lines sound like she was just swinging her nonexistent dick around to intimidate Sakura rather than keeping things as professional as she could in the situation she was in.

>> No.39859333

>>39859040
Well it's a cheap story mechanism for when it's convenient so it won't happen with all of them. Though yes, given it causes them to zone out if they are daydreaming then yes it's shit.

>> No.39859344
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39859344

>>39859313

>> No.39859350

>>39859327
Because calling it "contrived" or "OOC" is utter nonsense and it's perfectly in line with her character. What did you expect Rin to act like Shirou or something?

>> No.39859369

>>39859350
This is going nowhere. I give up. You win.

>> No.39859370

>>39859350
Clearly they didn't read or watch closely since she puts up the fake front in early UBW, like you know when she was willing to fight Shirou and force him out of the HGW??

>> No.39859379

>>39859370
Well I mean guy already admitted to not reading it correctly kek >>39858617

>> No.39859401

>>39859327
>rather than keeping things as professional as she could in the situation she was in.
That's literally what she was doing though? The worst Rin did to Sakura was distancing her, most of the bad lines happened behind her back but Sakura happened to eavesdropping because drama must happen or because Sakura wanted to be close because she thought she was trying to steal Shirou. It was really just a big misunderstanding.

>> No.39859411
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39859411

>>39859148
this, but lancer

>> No.39859417

>>39859238
Never got this complaint. Rin is only reallt being a dipshit to Sakura in three instances: when Shirou and her arrive home after the Rain scene, the confrontation in the courtyard, and finally when she tells Shirou that she doesn't think Sakura can be saved and he should allow Rin to kill her. And Sakura isn't even there for the last one. Frankly, was she even wrong to say that? The only issue was her pretending to not really be all that concerned for Sakura, even though by asking about her well-being she was showing she in fact was. Saving Sakura was indeed impossible, it's only due to plot contrivances that she is saved, first by her becoming Dark Sakura allowing her to remove the final worm from her body and then by having Kirei exorcise Zouken, thereby allowing Sakura to be able to resist his influence. Rin was only telling Shirou that she'll spare him the pain of having to kill the most important person in his life.

Point being, Rin is still mostly nice to Sakura for the bulk of the story. To pretend the friction between the sisters was caused solely by Rin's magus attitude, and not also by Sakura's irrational jealousy of Rin and fear that Rin wants to "steal" Shirou from her (when she called him an idiot for confessing to her in UBW lmao)... it's just dumb. Either way, the HF movies removed all that and Rin sucks there.

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39859462

>>39859344

>> No.39859482

>>39859379
>>39859417
I believe that guy is the frequent HF anime only fan who keeps ruining threads. The patterns are too simlar and the seething at Rin for not knowing everything and saying good job when she's swallowed half the town give it away

>> No.39859493

>>39859417
>the confrontation in the courtyard
Also that one wasn't really Rin's fault as it was Sakura who was overprotective over Shirou and doesn't want to endanger him even though he has a bomb in his arm without providing any other solution or suggestions.
>>39859482
Nah, he is being respectful. Probably he is just having a hazy memory of the route. I am probably like him when it comes to stuff like Fate route or old Ciel route.

>> No.39859505
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39859505

This CG is so raw

>> No.39859512

I want to murder Kirei.

>> No.39859517

>>39859505
Whenever I see this I think of Evangelion. Illya being an angel and getting crucified, you know.

>> No.39859527

>>39859517
Nasu loves Eva so that was probably intentional.

>> No.39859533

>>39859482
You're confusing me with someone else. These (>>39851011 and >>39850470 and >>39850389) were my posts, too. Not sure why you need to sperg out this hard because I don't remember everything from a VN I read almost eight years ago. Maybe if I read it again I'd get a completely different impression, which is quite likely given that I can't even find the line that left me with the impression of Rin being insensitive during the finale.

>> No.39859542

>>39859462
why is their romance so underwhelming compared to saber and sakura? feels like nasu did not put the same amount attention that he put in the other routes. not to mention he literally made rin fuck another dude in a different route.

>> No.39859555
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39859555

>>39859517
No coincidence since Nasu is a huge Eva fag

>> No.39859559
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39859559

Alright I'm not taking the bait, you're not fooling anyone

>> No.39859682

I want to eat curry off of Ciel.

>> No.39859724

>>39859224
This could be interpreted as sexual.

>> No.39859734

>>39859724
Dumb fujo/homo.

>> No.39859810

I want- I WANT-

>> No.39859840

>>39859542
Has it ever crossed your mind that there's nothing wrong with the romance just because it doesn't suit your personal subjective and arbitrary taste?

>> No.39859861

why did you reply to bait everyone else did so well

>> No.39859867

would shirou ever want to have children? if so, how many? i'm only asking this for a friend, of course

>> No.39859873

>>39859867
As many as there were orphans in the church basement.

>> No.39859891

>>39859867
Hopefully not. You really can't raise children while you are playing hero of justice. Maybe after he retires some day or in HF since he is pretty much retired there.

>> No.39859894
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39859894

>>39858566
Holy based. It's nice to see Shiki and Kiri together. This dude knows what the world really needs.

>> No.39859903

>>39859542
shirou's romance with rin lacks the intensity of his romances with saber and sakura. not that this is a bad thing, of course; i think that shirou and rin's relationship suits their characters perfectly

>> No.39859990

>>39859296
I know she talks to Shirou about wanting to be a better sister and showing her true feelings, but I don't remember Rin outright stating it besides the end with Sakura. Can you post examples of this? It can be the case that I may have forgotten it.

>> No.39860001
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39860001

>>39858329
An amazing CG that shows Shirou dedication to saving Sakura and how willing he is to do what has to be done. If this was the only CG of Shirou's face and the first time it was revealed this would be one of the best moments in any VN.

>> No.39860012

>>39859313
that's a sprite, not a CG.

>> No.39860020

>>39859350
it's funny you say that since Rin acts the most like Shirou in HF since Shirou values Sakura more than the townspeople so she has to take the ally of justice role from him.

>> No.39860030

>>39859370
that kind of thing doesn't really work since Rin doesn't kill Shirou outright in any of their bad ends together besides the one where he turns into Medea's catalyst. Rin easily kills Sakura in the mind of steel ending which is a contrast into how she treats Shirou. She leaves him alive and out of the war by erasing his memories in one of them for example.

>> No.39860052

>>39860020
But that's not accurate. Shirou was a no compromise ally of justice. He would never choose the the town people over Sakura. His choice would be to save everyone. Kiritsugu is the one who does the utilitarian trolley problem shit.

>> No.39860057

>>39859861
Sorry anon. I got pissed off IRL and didn't think before replying.

>> No.39860077

>>39859542
Their romance is closer to best friends falling in love and is the most natural. The love between Saber is a star-crossed lovers love story that shows them desperately fight with each other and trying to survive in the war. They also have the most parallels between each other. Sakura and Shirou's love is also a desperate one that has the Shirou protecting Sakura and fighting for her. It also shows a dark side that makes it more taboo. It's funny since Rin and Shirou have the best banter together and have the chemistry together, but that contrasts with how mundane and normal their love is. It's good, it's just not as romantic sense.

>> No.39860082

>>39859512
get off the internet, Baz.

>> No.39860101

>>39860052
well he betrayed his ideals and chose Sakura over the hundreds of townspeople that died the night that Shirou realized that the shadow was Sakura during his night patrols with Rin. It's clear that he couldn't kill Sakura and save the people the shadow was killing.

>> No.39860110

>>39859894
really hope Nasu gives Kiri a big role in RG and even has him playable in Melty Blood that comes back due to being Kouma's nightmare or the thing he fears most from Zepia's magic.

>> No.39860111
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>>39860077
They are equals and more grounded compared to the Girl who wished she never became king and wants to erase herself from history and beats herself up about her reign and the girl who needs protection

>> No.39860122
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39860122

Some good Shiki vs SHIKI art. https://twitter.com/zanzibalgusto/status/1132667428893122561

>> No.39860184
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39860184

Don't like the fact that early designed Aoko looks like a Higurashi character.

>> No.39860216

>>39860030
Why would she kill Shirou though? Sakura poses a threat to regular people, Shirou does not. Wiping Shirou's memory solves the issue of him participating in the war, Sakura is as far as she knows unsavable.

>> No.39860220

>>39860057
You need to learn to control your anger, anon.

>> No.39860223

>>39860110
Tatari Kiri training Shiki then getting ice cream. Let's go.

>> No.39860234
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39860234

Going to need a Shiki edit of the Attack on Titan Eren meme. God damnit,

>> No.39860235

>>39859990
I meant there are plenty of moments where she says she wants to kill her out of necessity, because she doesn't find any hope in saving her and by that they are just delaying murdering her while killing innocents with her. It's basically a conflict between her being a realist and her human side. Out of these moments the one at the church is the strongest imo while the "confession" is the most melancholic and sad. Here is the church one and sure you know the other:
> "Then what are you going to do…!?
>Look, Sakura can't live unless she fights as a Master.
>She has to absorb other people's magical energy to survive…!
>Don't you see how this will end!? Killing her here is for her own good…!"
> "…No way! Why are you jumping to conclusions when she hasn't done anything yet!"
> "How could I not? If this were just about Sakura, there'd be hope. But it's not, is it? That damn old man holds her life, and she's his puppet as long as he lives.
>Do you think he's ever going to let her go?"
>"That's…"
> "See, you understand. Zouken will never give her a moment's peace. …Then… If she's going to go through endless torment with no hope of escape, all we can do is kill her here and minimize the number of victims. Sakura and all the people Sakura will kill would be saved."
> "Unlike you, I can't endanger everyone while clinging to a forlorn hope. The weakness to delay your decision is going to hurt her even more."

>but I don't remember Rin outright stating it besides the end with Sakura
Yes, of course she won't state it explicitly until the end. Despite that, it slips her mouth a couple of times like the night Archer died or during their patrols, and you can see her act sympathetically while talking about her a lot of times or through sprite changes, even in the cavern she tells her before their fight that they don't have to fight now that she killed Zouken.
Point is, Rin embracing her at the end didn't come out of no where and despite what she was saying it was clear how deeply she care for her.

>> No.39860254

>>39860235
You fell for bait bro, he's clearly never read the VN or just hates Rin as a character

>> No.39860280

Sex with- SEX WITH-

>> No.39860286
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39860286

The original web novel of KnK didn't include the contents of movie 6 and 7, right? In that canon, who killed the murder victims in ep. 2?

>> No.39860295
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39860295

>everyone on /tmg/ is a Rinfag
Surprising but not that much

>> No.39860306

>>39860235
I didn't imply that it came out of nowhere, it's clear that she cares about Sakura it's just more ambiguous then her other relationships in the VN with her showing clear affection for others like Shirou. I just have issues with the game not really showing the distance between the sisters and how Sakura and Rin can become closer besides the kitchen scene with Sakura calling her Nee-san. It's more of an issue of Sakura staying in bed for most of that down time and not having scenes of them getting closer. Would've liked more scenes of them talking about how their lives have been living apart and if they could ever become true sisters again.

>>39860254
Would you fuck off? None of my posts indicate that I hate read or haven't read the VN.

>> No.39860316

>>39860306
hate Rin*

>> No.39860344

>>39860280
ciel

>> No.39860353

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ3VvS_oPvM&ab_channel=HungSP

>> No.39860356

>>39860295
Dumb exaggeration.

>> No.39860362

>>39860295
nah, there are a few annoying Rinposters on here that came from /a/, but it seems like Ciel gets more love on here in general.

>> No.39860372

>>39860306
I mean, that's impossible with the given situation with Sakura having a lot of unresolved resentment towards Rin, and her thinking she has to murder her at the end out of duty. Seriously, Sakura calling her nee-san and cooking wouldn't connect the bridge between them. Ironically, their reconciling at the end wouldn't be as powerful, both between themselves and the readers, if the story wasn't like that, hence the line "A once-in-a-lifetime embrace between sisters." hits so much.

>> No.39860377

>>39860286
It's the same canon, just unresolved.

>> No.39860397
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39860397

how many of you are archer fans

>> No.39860399

>>39860397
All of us

>> No.39860402

>>39860372
Don't see why you're so against scenes of the talking to each other and wishing that they could be close as sisters like they used to be. Seems like a great way to show flashbacks to them as kids and how Sakura leaving hurt their relationship together. It doesn't seem impossible for them to talk about a hypothetical situation of them never having to separate and being regular sisters.

>> No.39860412

>>39860372
Sakura also shows clear affection for Rin and wanting to get closer to her in the kitchen scene. It's her shadow that wants to kill her since Shirou is her lifeline during that dangerous situation. Rin also has issues with Sakura that she has to resolve so putting it all on Sakura like in your post is disingenuous.

>> No.39860424
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39860424

>>39860397
yeah, I love archer.

>> No.39860425

>>39860220
I usually do fine, anon. Whatever, personal shit doesn't belong on /tmg/.

>> No.39860438
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39860438

>>39860397
You can't be a TMfag without being an Archerfag

>> No.39860456
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>> No.39860466

>>39860402
Because I just like how the story is and find it perfect, and I find putting fun scenes like these would kill all the tension and atmosphere that makes the route great.
I find cute scenes more suitable for stuff like Emiya Gohan and I love them there.
>>39860412
Well, I didn't mean to pin it on Sakura, so apologies if it came that way. I just meant it's overall bad environment for wholesome times

>> No.39860490

>>39860220
If only it was that easy

>> No.39860500

>>39860466
guess we'll agree to disagree then. The scenes between Sakura and Rin also doesn't have to be cute as they can be sad scenes talking about a past between them that was better than their current situation. Any other emotions that can also make it dramatic. I don't mean that those scenes would be wholesome cute scenes. I was thinking of them being more serious than that.

>> No.39860525
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39860525

thoughts on this?

>> No.39860535

>>39860525
Everything in this image is canon.

>> No.39860559
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39860559

Would it be controversial to say that if Alice's boobs were a little bit bigger she'd be the best girl?

>> No.39860570

>>39860559
I like Alice's boobs but I'd be interested in a flat chest Alice too.

>> No.39860580

>>39860559
No, it will be retarded. Breasts size is irrelevant.

>> No.39860589

>>39860122
kino

>> No.39860600
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39860600

>>39860559
They fill completely different niches. Alice's aesthetic wouldn't work well if she wasn't as petite and frail-looking as she is.

>> No.39860602

>>39860559
No. Small breasts are the thinking man's size.

>> No.39860604
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39860604

>>39858329

>> No.39860628

>>39860600
That's a good point. I'm more of a go big or go home guy so either flat-chested or big boobs for me.

>> No.39860640

>>39860286
It's still Lio, it's just never revealed to the reader. KnK was originally the story of Souren Araya. That's why it stopped at 5

>> No.39860655
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>> No.39860662

>>39860525
The subtext of this meme is the trite old "le UBW anime Rin is OOC xD xD" blaming the UBW anime for anime onlies supposedly having "bad takes" on Rin but most of the stuff in the canon section is stuff anime onlies wouldn't know about since it's from HF (with some HA bits), and the HF adaptation didn't give a single shit about Rin and what it did cover it butchered like all hell.

You can also tell the guy who made the meme thinks HF Rin is better than UBW Rin so his opinion is basically worth nothing to me.

TL;DR: I can't believe Reddit made a shitty meme.

>> No.39860664

>>39860604
Shirou looks so skinny here. Takeuchi really can't draw.

>> No.39860668

>>39860664
he looks fine to me besides the long legs.

>> No.39860673
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39860673

>>39860664
He looks the same as he does in other CGs where you can see his body.

>> No.39860690

>>39860668
>>39860673
The pose and the non-existent ass make him look like a snake. RIP Saber

>> No.39860695

>>39860559
I concur with Shirou on this subject. Medium is premium.

>> No.39860730
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39860730

>>39858329
I'm quite fond of this one.

>> No.39860733

>>39860690
Takeuchi can't draw ass in general. Ciel is supposed to have ass like a negress but she looks just as flat as anyone else in Tsukihime or Fate.

>> No.39860743

>>39860733
i will never forgive takeuchi for this

>> No.39860750

>>39860690
What I found weirder is how blocky his sprites look in the epilogue. Like I get it, he's a man, so he needs to be wider than the girls, but he looks like a literal rectangle. I wish I had an example saved.

>> No.39860767
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39860767

>>39860733
You can just look at what he did with Medusa. Really, thank god for ufotable giving the asses justice.
Also a candidate for >>39858329

>> No.39860784

>>39860767
Looks pretty erotic.

>> No.39860787

>>39860730
Kirei looks really weird here.

>> No.39860806
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39860806

Wonder what Ritsuka would've done if she was described as a Kohkau-type woman by the staff.

>> No.39860812

>>39860787
Whatever could you mean anon?

>> No.39860820

>>39860812
his face looks off.

>> No.39860824

>>39860787
His hair is blown back, so he looks unusual.

>> No.39860825
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39860825

>>39860767
I love that CG and her ass

>> No.39860832
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39860832

Thoughts on this?

>> No.39860833

>>39860824
guess so. His eyebrows and facial structure just look off.

>> No.39860840

>>39860806
We will never know.

>> No.39860853
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39860853

>>39858329

>> No.39860859

Why are so many of you actually retarded?

>> No.39860860

>>39860840
Mahoyo 2 is coming someday.

>> No.39860867
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>>39858329
>>39860853

>> No.39860869
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>>39860820
You also usually only see him full frontal or from a three quarter view, so his profile view looks weird because you never see him like that in other CGs. It's kind of like the back of Saber's head, I guess, you can count on one hand the number of CGs where you can see her bun from behind, such as this one (>>39850654).

>> No.39860878

>>39860859
What do you mean anon

>> No.39860894
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>>39860869
btw napeservice needs to be a bigger thing.

>> No.39860901
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DEEN is good, actually.

>> No.39860929

>>39860869
oh god, don't show me that I never saw how weird the back of Saber's hair looks in that sprite. It looks like spikes.

>> No.39860933

>>39860878
You are dumb

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>>39858329
Don't believe no one has posted this.
It is my favorite along with >>39858397 >>39858497 >>39859224 >>39858355

>> No.39860959

>>39860933
Source?

>> No.39861004
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>>39860929
Spikes? If there's another minor thing to complain abut it's that she couldn't realistically make her hair like that with the length she has. I remember checking out some sort of cosplayer tutorial video because I was curious if it was even possible IRL and I think the model they used had much longer hair than what Saber canonically has, if the model had any less they wouldn't even have been able to make it because you need to twist and roll it around a lot.

>> No.39861042

>>39860959
You

>> No.39861059

would ciel be into pegging

>> No.39861069

>>39861059
Archer would never...

>> No.39861114
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>> No.39861172

>>39861059
so that's how Archer became gay

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>> No.39861206

>>39861192
myaa

>> No.39861209

>>39861192
Neko Shiki is cursed.

>> No.39861431

>>39861059
Probably not, actually

>> No.39861703

>>39860559
I think the size of her boobs are perfect given her style, I say this as an Aokofag.

>> No.39861711
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Now that the dust has settled, why is Zero considered a masterpiece in the west?

>> No.39861723

There's still some dust floating about.

>> No.39861783
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https://youtu.be/GxnRhRLIudk
Still the best OST

>> No.39861785

>>39861711
cool fight scenes, some philosophical shit here and there, edgy yet sanitized child murders, and baby's first fate entry

>> No.39861789
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>>39861114
Will smith

>> No.39861795

>>39860559
Aoko is simply the best, nothing can change that.

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>>39861059
Why not

>> No.39862273
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what a cute

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