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39626953 No.39626953 [Reply] [Original]

The power bomb mechanic is cool and I want it to come back in a game that isn't UM

>> No.39627784
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>>39626953
hello i'm new, pls no bully

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>>39627784
Excellent start, anon. Playing the games in order is something few people do but it's the true experience, in my opinion.
Have the latest version of the chart, filled with your squares colored the usual way.

>> No.39628061

>>39627921
Why is this chart so tiny?

>> No.39628085

is there a blank version of the chart?

>> No.39628088
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>took over 100 attempts with the easiest shot in the game
Nue is a fun fight but holy shit I hate this stage and everything it stands for. I don't think any other extra I've done has given me this much trouble.

>> No.39628089

>>39628061
In what sense? It's the same width as the other chart and only two pixels shorter.

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>>39628085

>> No.39628111

>>39628089
In general, I can hardly read any of them.

>> No.39628132

>>39628104
Thanks!

>> No.39628137

>>39628132
you're welcome

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>>39628111
They've always been like that, but you're right in that we could make an updated version with a larger size.
Pic related is double sized, it actually ends up looking worse because the browser needs to scale it down instead of up. A version with 150% the original size would look best but it needs to be made by hand (instead of just scaling with nearest neighbor like pic related) for it to look good.

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I don't know how I didn't expect Flandre to actually be unable to use the game's main Water gimmick but yeah it just makes sense. Overall i'm glad I decided to go through 17.5 as 1cc/No Miss, it's still a very flawed & messy game but it somehow clicks more the better I understand it.

>> No.39628220

>>39628197
At last I truly see.

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>>39628085

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>>39628249
Good one.

>> No.39628456

>>39628281
am noob, pls understand

>> No.39628481

>>39628456
Sorry anon, wasn't trying to make fun of you.
The other anon asked for a blank chart so I thought this was a joke about those clears being usually called "free clears". That's some very decent effort regardless.

>> No.39628516

>>39628481
lol probably doesnt help that i switched computers for those posts lol. working on a SA reimu b 1cc and a clear on DDC

>> No.39628874

>>39627921
thanks! i didn't think about using the color of the dots for square.

hopefully by the next thread i'll manage to fill up something in soew

>> No.39629342

>>39628874
These threads tend to last over 2 weeks each, so you've got plenty of time.

>> No.39629873
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39629873

Didn't post in a while, got really burnt out on lunatic SA so just got back to PCB after a break.
Any tips on not going insane resetting SA stage 1?

>> No.39630015

>>39629873
route each section properly and actually practice the stage
i know routing a stage 1 sounds retarded but the alternative is staying in stage 1 reset hell. everyone who has tried a difficult lunatic run or a challenge run has been there as well

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Hollow Song of Birds is pretty cool. I like picking Reimu with the orange orb (counter shots when grazing) cause it pretty much changes it from a shooting game to entirely dodging and grazing for damage.
Shame about the lag though

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>>39630026
I really like it. It's rather easy, for better or worse. You more or less have to play hard to get the same experience as playing normal in mainline games, but on the bright side it lets me turn off my brain and get easy clears when I just want to unwind.

>> No.39630319

>>39630127
Yeah, that run I cleared was the first time I ever played stages 5 and 6 and I won pretty much entirely because the massive deathbomb window lets you bomb on reaction consistently.

>> No.39630558

>>39629873
>Any tips on not going insane resetting SA stage 1?
None, you'll fight the spider a thousand times and you'll like it.

>> No.39630644
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Do you all play 2hu actively? If not, how long had it been since you stoped?
My first 3 months were the most productive. Than I started collecting 1ccs, and after only SA and LoLK were left I clashed with extras. But grind got a bit tiresome and I just stoped playing at all, it had been a year since I made my last 1cc. I still visit some memorable stages (MoF stage 5 for example) and ponder some extra bosses which I almost can kill, but I dont have concentration for long plays anymore.

>> No.39630785

>>39630644
I play regularly enough, though usually no more than 2-3 hours a day. Since I got into the series a year ago I don't think I've gone for more than a week without playing anything. There's years worth of content depending on your autism and the games being short allows for them to be easily fit into any schedule, though I always tend to play them after work. I'll probably keep playing until I run out of things I want to do, and even then there's a bunch of danmaku fangames I'd like to try on the side.

>> No.39630970

should aim at doing all games on normal first, or is it better to tryhard all the difficulties in 1 game first before you forget the patterns/bomb spots/etc?

>> No.39631017

>>39630970
Up to your tastes. I would prefer going for all games on normal, as you will meet more characters and listen to more zun osts.

>> No.39631188

>>39630644
I play on a daily basis. Touhou is the only game I play so I guess it's easier for me than most people

>> No.39631243
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>>39630644
I hit my skill cap and haven't played with the intent of getting new clears since failing to get a grasp on Koishi's stage, aside from new game releases. Sometimes I'll try to get another scene in 9.5 as well. But mostly when I play it's just a nice Normal run of whichever one sounds like fun at the time.

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>>39630644
In the past decade I took a one year break when i was focusing on different things but other than that I make sure I play at least once a week. At this point it's probably just autism.

>> No.39631402

>>39630644
Not regularly anymore. I tuned out after LoLK and I had to get used to playing again when I picked up HSiFS. Maybe I'll go back to actually do Lunatic 1cc, or check out some fan games.

>> No.39636016

>>39630644
I think it's been half a year since I last played a touhou game, yet I still lurk these threads for some reason.
I usually play one other shmup a day though, maybe someday I'll get the motivation for a lunatic 1cc.

>> No.39639244

Bump.

>> No.39643147

>>39629873
>Any tips on not going insane resetting SA stage 1?
Don't reset. Even if you die to Kisume's opener with bombs in stock, keep going until you game over or clear. You'll be surprised how far you can make it even on "bad" runs.

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Finally got a hard 1cc in this game with an honest character.

>> No.39643273

>literally one or two bombs away from 1CCing TD
>reached Seija with four lives, went retarded and lost three lives with bombs.
Still my best DDC run so far, captured all of Benben's spells and my first time capturing Reverse Arrow when I can't even capture that in practice

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I like Marisa so much, but I just cant play her at all. Why have a fast moving character in a game where for the most part you do not move at all? It just makes me far more likely to die while micrododging. I also dont get why ZUN`s most favorite 2hu is Remu, she is so bland...

>> No.39644125

>>39643567
Bland as in a character or what? She is one of the most relatable protagonists out there, being an outright asshole but just not enough to consider evil. Have enough power to actually be the most reliable place of worship but instead choose to do the bare minimum a shrine maiden should do and live a relaxing life. Instead of having power of destruction or blowing up stuff her power is about exterminating youkais efficiently while also flexible enougb that she still can go toe to toe with powered humans or gods. Why the hell am I ranting about this in the game play thread, who knows.

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>>39643567
ZUN's favorites are marisa, yukari and aya, but he tends to nerf the former and bully the latter two because he's afraid of letting his bias through and ends up overcompensating.

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Where's the updated easymodo chart?

>> No.39650009

FUCK Nue

>> No.39652125

>>39650009
thats the plan

>> No.39656181

>>39652125
i keep choking on the last boss, regardless of the game

>> No.39661412
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>>39643567
Try EoSD MarisaB. Reimu and Marisa have the same size hitbox in that game so the faster speed isn't as much of a detriment as it is in other games, most notably MoF-UFO

>> No.39664295

>>39628249
What does BT in IN stand for?

>> No.39664362

>>39664295
Ball torture
It's border team

>> No.39664400

does malice cannon count as a glitch? what about the ddc reimu/sakuya damage exploits?

>> No.39664444

>>39664362
Both of those two answers mean the same thing.

>> No.39664648

>>39664400
All of those are considered valid for runs if that's what you're asking. Malice cannon in particular is the only thing that makes MT worth considering over the other teams

>> No.39664829

>>39664648
yes, i was asking because i wanted to know if they counted as glitched runs in the 1cc chart
thanks anon

>> No.39665030
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>>39629873
>>39630644
>>39631243
Got 1ccs on all windows games on lunatic and normal, if anyone wants help for certain stages throughout the series AMA. Beat the game blind, no internet

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touhou 3 is also hella easy, ngl

i keep choking in soew tho

>> No.39665835

>>39630644
I've played Touhou everyday for the past three months.

>> No.39668646

>>39665774
soew seems harder because there is no focus. overall the game is not that difficult.
but I still can't clear it with reimu-b

>> No.39668890

>>39668646
soew is definitely doable if you use bombs properly, you don't even need focus when playing on normal

but that fucking extra stage looks completely impossible

>> No.39668945

>>39665774
>touhou 3 is also hella easy
Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not.

>> No.39668964

>>39668945
on normal it's unironically easy. even yumemi can be beat consistently if you know all the gameplay mechanics

>> No.39668987

>>39668964
I know the mechanics and I do often find the game pretty easy on normal, but sometimes either yumemi or chiyuri won't die no matter how long you've going, even on normal. It's all ultimately up to rng.

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>>39668987
i've beat hear 2 more time after i wrote my first post, complaining about rng on normal is cope. as long as you have at least 1 extra life, she's definitely beatable if you know how to play

gonna do another run now

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>>39669024
It's not like I don't know how to play, but you do you.

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>>39669052
based chart, but i guess you are just bad at podd

extra stages when?

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>>39669351
Try to improve your skill score before you say that :^)
Reimu 64 - Mima 69 - Marisa 56 - Ellen 58 - Kotohime 71 - Kana 72 - Rikako 58 - Chiyuri 62 - Yumemi 60

>> No.39669585

>>39669392
i'm 1ccing every character on my first try, but i guess if i were as bad as you i would eventually reach your scores after weeks of playing

you are actually awarded more points if you lose lives, since you play more, so that makes sense. i also don't use special attacks at all

do soew extra

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Gave this a few tries and managed to clear it!
I did die a few times with bombs remaining, so it could've definitely been better than a 0/0 lol
This should be my second Lunatic clear, with the first one being PCB

I don't visit often so pardon my newfaggory, but is there a 4chan-esque Discord for 2hu related content? Since I don't really post on this site anymore.

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>>39671441

>> No.39671569

>>39671505
lel, I forgot to change the res back to the recommended one since I was messing with the full screen option

>> No.39672029

>>39671441
>This should be my second Lunatic clear, with the first one being PCB
What the fuck? Those were also my first two Lunatic 1CCs. Did you use SakuyaA? Good job btw
>spoiler
good grief anon just stick with this site discord is not something you want to bring into your life. Call 4chan a shithole all you want but at least it's not discord

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>>39626953
Finally got my second normal 1cc. EoSD and IN.
Gonna play the extra stage and the I'll grind PCB.

>> No.39674785

>>39672029
Thanks, and yeah lol
although I was going back and forth between SakuyaA and B, since I used the latter on Normal, Hard, Extra and Phantasm
and yes you're totally right 100%, I blame the tiredposting, stayed up too late

>>39673316
Nice, with what shot type?

>> No.39674892

>>39673316
Do hard at least, it's pretty much exactly like normal for EOSD, you may be surprised how easy it is

>> No.39676348
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.39676487

Booted up a 2hu game for the first time in 3 years I think just because I wanted to listen to the stage 1 boss music in HSiFS.

>>39673316
Playing from old to new should give you way more appreciation of the features added in later games; gj anon!

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.39676707

>>39676664
Ah, if I recall right it's pretty much a diceroll if you live or not on Yumemi's finale.
but the fact that you made it this far multiple times means you will in fact succeed.

>> No.39676713

>>39676707
>Yumemi
Wrong game. And Yumeko's final is a joke.

>> No.39677050

>>39676664
>>39676348
>hard
based

>> No.39677605

Fuck the PC98 Extras

>> No.39677862
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>>39677605
this but literally

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I finally defeated GFW's janky controls. Which means I now have a Normal clear in every official shmup.
>>39628111
>>39628197
I browse 4chan zoomed to 160% which makes charts look just right.

>> No.39678860

>>39628061
>>39628111
What was the world like during WW2 grandpa?

>> No.39679052

>>39678828
nice, do soew extra now

>> No.39679234

>>39677605
They're not that bad.

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>>39679234
according the the meme stage difficulty list they are the hardest extras of all games, except for lolk

>> No.39680074

>>39678860
I'm not that old, but I masturbated too much.

>> No.39680134
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ONE POINT OFF FROM AN EXTRA LIFE

>> No.39680525

>>39677862
secret long lost komeiji sister

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NOOOOOOOOO

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>>39679052
I hate both SoEW and Extras.

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>>39680973
tik tok

>> No.39681045

>>39676487
>Playing from old to new should give you way more appreciation of the features added in later games
That's true, which also means he should have started from PC98.

>> No.39681969

>>39681045
PC-98 is overrated and uses stolen software.

>> No.39682006

>>39681045
The only good thing about PC-98 is the music

If it wasn't for the music it would be lost to time

>> No.39682090

I got Yuki instead of Mai by mistake. And somehow, I find her easier. Was I lied to? I was told that Mai is easy and Yuki is very hard.

>> No.39682212

>>39681045
I have only cleared PC-98 games on all difficulties, none of the windows games

>> No.39682243
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Here's my full strategy
>player character
Mima. Her range is shit and her bomb is laughably bad, but the simple fact that she's the only character who can get the 400 point item threshold means she has one more life than the rest. That alone makes her the ideal playable character.

>Sara
Move the fuck out of the way when she shoots the blue bullets. They move so fast they end my run instantly.
Timeout her last attack for reduced rank (not sure if it matters but I do it anyways).
>Louise
Requires 1-2 bombs. Her lasers will surely get me otherwise. With all the other characters, one bomb is enough, but Mima's bomb is so shit that I might require another one.
>Lolice
Requires 0-3 bombs. Random as fuck fight. Pray to Jesus.
>Yuki and Mai
Requires 2-4 bombs. Run right up to them when they shoot the curvy lasers. Otherwise they are certain to kill me.
>Mai
Requires 0-1 bombs. Her spinning lasers are the only hard part of the fight. Don't forget to stop firing when she throws eggs at me.
>Yumeko
Requires 4-6 bombs. Her swordspam is some of the most insane danmaku in the entire series. I need to bomb the fuck out of them or I won't even make it to Shinki. The rest of her patterns are consistent. I really should try timing out her final for reduced rank, but I keep forgetting.
>Shinki
Requires all remaining resources. Pray to Jesus, Buddha and Allah. Only made it passed Devil's Recitation a single time, and proceeded to shit the bed on her final. Her fat mommy ass is a safespot after her second pattern, then at her fourth pattern camp out there until the beginning of her fifth pattern. Devil's Recitation is bombspam time. Though preferably after the big lasers start appearing. Pray to every known deity that I can survive.

>> No.39682245

>>39682212
beyond based

>> No.39682258

>>39682243
can you do a similar write up for soew?

>> No.39682262

>>39682258
God no. That game is ass.
My only advice is to watch a video of someone else fight Mima so you won't be surprised by her bullshit.

>> No.39682274

>>39682262
the game's short and it's very generous on bombs, but i always choke and beat it with 1 continue because i'm too greedy on bombs. if there was a list of bomb spots that would greatly help me

i'm seriously considering dumping all the bombs right at the start of a boss so i won't waste them

>> No.39682296

>>39682274
Look far ahead of your character and bomb cautiously. The hitbox in SoEW is kind of janky, so you can't rely on it anyways.
Also, always bomb when Marisa makes those four balls appear. She's invincible while she has them IIRC.

>> No.39682304

>>39682296
>always bomb when Marisa makes those four balls appear.
lmao, i usually do the opposite: dodge her while she has the balls up and then spam 2-3 bombs in a row to do damage

>> No.39682802

>>39682090
Mai has slower but more complex patterns, like the windows games.
Yuki has faster but simpler patterns.
Most prefer the former, but it's ultimately up to your playing style.
Never trust people's opinions blindly, always experiment on your own.

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>>39681969
>uses stolen software

>> No.39684204

If I was asked by the a child (like my cousins in countryside) to play games on my computer, would touhou on easy modo do justice? Have anyone tried that? What game you would pick?

>> No.39685463

>>39680074
>I'm not that old
Then why are you having trouble reading the charts? I can read them just fine

>> No.39685508

>>39682802
>Never trust people's opinions blindly, always experiment on your own.
Couldn't agree with this more. LLS, DDC MarisaB, and LoLK Reisen are constantly regurgitated as being the easiest Lunatic 1CCs in the series, but when I tried the, they felt like the polar opposite of easy. I get it, it's Lunatic, it's supposed to be hard, but there are definitely easier games on Lunatic

>> No.39685576

My hands hurt from the control scheme and i'm not particularly having fun playing Double Spoiler

>> No.39685602

>>39626953
I dislike the bomb mechanic because it shits on bad players like me who reply on bomb skipping. Satori and even Yuugi have given me a ton of shit because I'm more hesitant to bomb knowing the next spell is going to last longer with less power.

>> No.39685616

>>39685602
Sounds like you need more practice.

>> No.39686741

>>39629873
Really cool chart
How did you make the glow effect?

>> No.39686805

>>39665030
How do you lunatic 1cc pofv?

>> No.39687092

>>39685463
That's because I masturbated too much. Masturbation makes your eyesight deteriorate.

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Take a look.

>> No.39687105

>>39687092
Are you from the 1800s?

>> No.39688684

Did anybody ever notice that MS stage 3 has a sign that says "Romantic" on the far right of the screen, and later there's another sign that says "Children!"?

>> No.39688843

>>39688684
Yes and sometimes the first sign gets me killed because I get distracted. Thankfully the second sign is at the piss-easy midboss.

>> No.39688901

>>39630015
>>39630558
>>39643147
Thanks for the advice, I'll keep it in mind when getting back to SA.

>>39665030
How can you be fine with Reimu's speed?

>>39686741
I stole most of it from another anon that had Yuyuko all over it (very good taste).
For the glow effect in photoshop : Layer > Layer Style > Outer Glow

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ok, i've finished th3, definitely very easy.

now back to grinding soew...

>> No.39689653

Which is better for damage with the Mamizou card, Marisa Laser, Saki or Marisa bullet?

>> No.39689908

>>39689010
Touhou 3's default difficulty is easy. I sure hope you switched it to normal.

>> No.39689947

>>39689653
Saki is the strongest IIRC

>> No.39690244
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>>39689908
yup, but it still feels like the easiest touhou game desu

>> No.39691247

How do Kagerou's second and third nons work on Lunatic? Are any of the bullets aimed? How exactly are they affected by RNG?
I can get by them okay enough, but it's always by sight reading. I don't have a route for them.

>> No.39691751

I can't beat a single Level 12 spell

>> No.39693310

>everyone saying touhou 3 is easy
Lend me your wisdom then, phantasmagoria gods. How do you git gud? It took me over 10 runs to get a single 1cc in 3.

>> No.39693598

>>39693310
>>everyone
it's just 1 single autist (aka myself)

here's a simple guide on how to farm 1cc (on normal) in th3 (works with any character):
>completely ignore the power bar and simply spam the fire button
>dodge shit until the enemy ai chokes
that's really it

more in depth strat:
>your ai opponent won't get hit until a specific amount of time has passed, so instead of wasting it, keep the power bar always filled for the immortality thingy
>use bomb+1st special to skip the enemy bosses (2 times) and use the immortality on the third one. this way you can easily beat the first 7-8 stages, most of the times without using bombs at all
>be sure to have at least 1 extra life when once you reached yumemi (also chiyuri if you are bad), otherwise you might as well reset right away. prepare to die at the end of the first life, but be sure to have dragged the fight as long as you can (you should be able to kill at least 3 bosses by the strat above + 1/2 more by dodging, depends on the skill and +1 if you manage to refill the bottom bar again). also remember that you get a bonus life at 1m points or something, so sometimes you might get it after losing your last life. that means that as long as you die 2 time before yumemi you should still be able to pull it off
>on the second life do the same as before, but this time the enemy will start chocking a lot sooner (since the numbers in the bottom have gone up i guess, and those don't reset when losing a life)
overall, you should get around 50% rate of 1cc (depending on who chokes faster, you on yumemi)


also it should be obvious but i'll say it anyway: you don't need to kill all the enemies that appear on screen, you only need to kill the closest one in order to trigger a chain reaction that sends shit to the other screen

>> No.39694112

>>39689908
>default difficulty is easy
That's only on the hard disk files that come with the all-in-one pack, because they had a custom config file. If you delete the configs (or play on the Touhou98 Experience pack) you'll notice the default difficulty is actually normal.

>> No.39694151

>>39694112
also chiyuri and yumemi are unlocked while they shouldn't be available from the beginning iirk

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>>39694151
Yep, that's correct.

>> No.39694183

is spamming the fire button in soew considering cheating/glitching, or is it an intentional gameplay mechanic? 1 and 3 also made you spam it so i think it's the latter, but i'm wondering if there's a consensus on this

>> No.39694222

>>39694183
I've never seen anyone calling it cheating, unless you're using autofire of course.

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>>39694222
>unless you're using autofire of course
Customizing your controls to play comfortably avoid injuries is not cheating.

>> No.39694884

>>39694700
cope

>> No.39694930

>>39694700
What's the autofire button on SoEW? Tab?

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>>39694930
It's whatever key or button you assign autofire to using keybinds customization tools of your choice.

>> No.39695073

>>39695058
it's called cheating but keep coping

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>>39695073
You can repeat it another thousand times but customizing your controls always was legit and always will be. There's no square on the chart for carpal tunnel syndrome.

>> No.39695192

>>39695141
i could make an arduino board that death-bombs automatically but i doubt you would be fine with that

technically it's controls customization too

>> No.39695211

>>39695058
>>39695141
If it can't be done without a tool then it's cheating.
You can avoid carpal tunnel syndrome by using a controller and shooting with your thumb by moving your whole forearm instead of your finger.

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>>39695192
Bombing is decision making.
Spamming Z as fast you can for the whole duration of the game is not.

>> No.39695248

>>39695234
>>39695141
>>39695058
>>39694700
aren't there any games after the first 3 that actually require autofire?

>> No.39695249
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Finally got 1cc for Marisa on lunatic

PCB here I go

>> No.39695262

>>39695249
based

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>>39695211
>by using a controller
Uh-oh, look like we've got a cheater here!

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>>39695268
And his name is ZUN!

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>>39695262
Not as based as Dim Dream honestly, getting Kotohime 1cc on lunatic is the most miserable experience I've had so far

>> No.39695420

>>39695393
beyond based. i did lunatic in th3 with quicksave for shit and jiggles and holy shit is was painful

post 1cc chart

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>>39695420
There, as you can see my autistic ass is on crusade to close all the squares

I'm already dreading spell practice for IN, gotta do all spellcards with all combinations

>> No.39695603

>>39695544
how much did it took to fill all those pc-98 games?

>> No.39695650

I got to the Extra stages in DS and I cant beat any of them
3 off leaving this game forever

>> No.39695696

>>39695603
2 years or so, considering I usually 2 attempts at 1cc if first one failed per day, unless I get a dedicated Touhou day and work it until I pass, as it happened with Kotohime, Yuuka in Mistic Square and Marisa in EoSD

Windows era looks easier so far, praise the visible fucking hitbox, bet I can go up SA by the end of the year, and 100% IN on my off time

>> No.39695742

>>39695544
Those white specs on the TD, HSiFS, and UM squares are pissing me off. PLEASE fix them. Nice chart btw, I can't wait to see what it will look like 2-3 years from now assuming you're still into Touhou by then

>> No.39695761

>>39695544
Oh, also, have you ever considered doing challenge runs? There's no way you aren't good enough to do them. It'd be a shame to see such talent go to waste. I can only 1CC a handful of games on Lunatic with certain shot types and I love doing challenge runs, primarily on Extra stages though.

>> No.39695784

>>39695544
I Love Lean!!!

>> No.39695834

>>39695761

Not really interested in challenges for now, although I'm pretty sure I'll be able to do no hit and no bomb run on any game accept fighting ones on normal, all of those and pacifist with no focus on easy, the only issue is time

>> No.39695852

>>39695834
Would you say there were any Lunatic clears harder than Kotohime?

>> No.39695858

>>39695696
impressive, 2 years isn't that much considering your achievements, keep it up anon

tips for soew extra?

>> No.39695938

>>39695858
>soew extra?

Get heavy attack and quickly press fire instead of holding it, you will shoot for much more damage

>> No.39695952

>>39695938
i want to be it with all types anyway, and i already know about spamming the fire key

i guess it's just tons of practice and memorization...

>> No.39695980

>>39695852
Kotohime was hardest one so far

EoSD Marisa A was closest one, but took nowhere near as long to complete

I can already see I'll have problems with Marisa on SA. Marisa is my No.1 waifu, but goddamn playing her so much harder than certain lazy miko

>> No.39695994

>>39695952
Yeah, Touhou is a memory game more than anything else

Patterns man, patterns

>> No.39696135

>>39695980
What would you say was the easiest?

>> No.39696195

>>39696135
Oh, HRtP Makai route, no competition there

Took a bit longer to deal with Sariel, but I'm pretty sure I had her beat within three days

From shooters, everything with Reimu A is pretty easy, easiest being LLS

>> No.39696228

>>39696195
Fuck, I meant a Hell route

>> No.39696238

>>39696195
LLS? Seriously? How the fuck do you not die a million times on Elly's bullshit? I still can't even get past stage 4 on that game

>> No.39696306

>>39696238
All of her patterns has pretty wide gaps, and once you done getting used to the scythe timing it becomes pretty manageable

Her hardest e attack is that wave of white peas with gaps followed right away with gapless one, on that one you just constantly be aware of your position and stay close to her or at least prepare to bomb

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>>39695852
Speaking of hardest, I can actually thing one thing that was harder than Kotohime

I managed to capture this card twice, number of shots should give you some idea how much FUN I had with this one

>> No.39699445

Does deathbombing cost two bombs in IN or am I just nuts?
Also, Keine's last word on Normal is really easy. I got it on the first try.
I'm pretty surprised at how well I did, since I took a pretty long break. I only lost one life on the first half of Marisa's fight and made it to her last spell card.
Hopefully I can clear stage 4 by the end of the night.

>> No.39699537

>>39699445
>Does deathbombing cost two bombs in IN
Yes. Get used to it.

>> No.39699603

I tried Lunatic just for the hell of it. I got to the same point as normal mode. Feels the same just twice the bullets and some of them are a bit faster. Stage portion of stage 4 feels exactly the same. I used continues, going in blind and all.
>>39699537
I don't have any problems with it. It's such an easy thing to do, and they're really strong so I think it's fair. I just wanted to confirm.

>> No.39699838

>>39699445
>Does deathbombing cost two bombs in IN or am I just nuts?
Deathbombing is more or less replaced with Last Spells on IN, which cost 2 bombs and fire off a stronger version of your bombs depending on if you're focusing or not. You can still do the regular deathbomb, but the timing is a lot more tight.

>> No.39701005

Got the 58 spells in DS
Gave Ex a try but outside of the 1st obviously everything seems too hard so I guess i'll leave it at that

>> No.39701510
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WE DID IT REDDIT!

>> No.39702121

>>39701510
Now play LLS, which is arguably the easiest game in the series on normal.

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>>39702121
i fucking some so, but i definitely have to unlock the extra in soew until i forget the route, and preferable to clear the extra so i won't have to injure my wrist ever again hopefully

>> No.39702786

>>39702723
SoEW Extra is pure hell, and not in a good way. I wouldn't bother unless you have absolutely nothing better to do.

>> No.39702902

>>39702786
i know, it's also very intimidating., but since i've decided to beat all the extras then i might as well do this one right away. and if it's indeed one of the hardest extras then from LLS onwards everything else will be easy peasy for me

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Holy fuck.
I was trying to do this with Sanae over the past few days because I wanted to try out bomb graze farming instead.
Turns out what happens is; I keep retry spamming if I miss a lifecount on a section.
But since Reisen has more flexibility when it comes to that I decided to switch over.
Then just a few tries later bam, this happened.
Reisen was my main for Normal and Extra, so not sure why I tried to do Sanae, but whatevs.
Super happy with this, even if Reisen makes the game baby mode.

>> No.39705062

>>39695296
Fake photoshop

>> No.39707246

test

>> No.39707275

>>39707246
no u

>> No.39707311

>>39707275
captcha was being a bitch sorry

>> No.39708527

Man I can't really get into oldhu (PC98). it feel so clunky and weird that I can't even get too far. Also lasers just annihilate me, you start to appreciate PC era lasers having a wind-up time when you face with this shit.

>> No.39709450

>>39708527
while th4 and th5 are actually 2 good touhou games, there's no point in playing them over any other windows game, unless you are particularly autistic.

>> No.39711772

>>39708527
I felt the same, but after the 3rd attempt to get into them months after the first attempt I grew to appreciate them. I think what greatly helped was forcing myself to 1cc SoEW, you can get pretty acclimatized to all the old jank from it. The thing about PC-98 is that after playing them for a while you realize the bullet density is really generous and the games themselves would be piss easy if they were on windows, but it's all the jank that's making them hard to overcome.

>> No.39713693

I've had mixed feelings about my first photo game all the way throughout but at least it finishes fantastically
I can't beat it yet but Illusionary Dominance is actually fun I don't mind grinding it

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>>39713693
Nevermind I just beat it after posting this, talk about devil's luck
Seeing a congratulations screen like that in 2hu that isn't just at the end of credits feels really rewarding.

>> No.39713907

beat IN normal route A with magic team
somehow i think i did worse on reisen than i did on eirin, but at least this is the furthest into hourai elixir ive gotten so far
torn between finishing the last route A i have left or moving on to route B for everyone

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There is one (1) thing I crave in new 2hu - a few spell cards which change pattern depending on character you are using. I was really dissapointed to know that Patche and Satori are basically the only bosses which are different for every char, it is such a great feature. Just a few spell cards Zun, just a few...

>> No.39714767

>>39630644
Stopped playing regularly when Orin filtered me. Until then I 1cc'd EoSD, PCB, IN and MoF

>> No.39714956

ufo lunatic stage 5 is gonna make me kill myself
fuck nazrin in particular

>> No.39715201

>>39714956
I'm still struggling to clear hard mode, Shou's nons are PC98-tier bullshit.
How's UFO lunatic so far? is it too different from hard?

>> No.39715375

>>39715201
haven't played it on hard so i couldn't tell you
that said, there's extremely little margin for error in lunatic, even with optimized ufo routing. the danmaku itself doesn't get too obnoxiously hard honestly (compared to other games that have almost legendarily difficult spell cards, at least), but the difficulty is consistently high throughout almost the whole game so there are a ton of sections that can kill you at any time. stage 5 in particular is extremely unpredictable, it's even hard to plan out when i'm gonna use bombs because i can get killed at any point anyways. and marisa's fat ass hitbox doesn't exactly help

>> No.39719270

I need help with Unknown "Skyfish with Unknown Shape, please give me some tips.

>> No.39719525

>>39719270
Read the bullets a bit earlier and higher up than you probably normally would. And do try to follow the paths the arrows create as best you can. Unless they go too far out and force you to dodge diagonal bullets.

>> No.39719833

>>39719525
Thank you. Should I hug the bottom, or do I need some space? Also is there a faster way to capture First Duel "Primate Danmaku Transformation"?

>> No.39719984

>>39719833
It's safe to stay at the bottom, unless you need to dodge vertically at some point. Happens more often if you move too much to one of the sides so if you stay in front of Nue then you should be fine.
>Also is there a faster way to capture First Duel "Primate Danmaku Transformation"?
I've always only done the standard bottom center > corner route. You can kinda speedkill if, instead of going all the way to the corner, you move through all the bullets and hit her point blank, but it's honestly much riskier and the regular route is extremely consistent with a little practice so I would just use that anyways. The other route is only about one wave faster.

>> No.39721492

Asking here because this general actually plays video games.
Should I get Deathsmiles for 7 bucks, Eschatos for $7.50, or Hellsinker for 6 dollars?

I want a distraction from attempting SA Lunatic because I'm too scared.

>> No.39722338

>>39721492
Deathsmiles is poopy stinky.

>> No.39723875

>>39721492
Get Crimzon Clover, try the demo first if you're not sure about the price.

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let's fucking gooooooo

>> No.39724671

>>39724395
Is that SoEW? What difficulty setting?

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>>39724671
yes, and it's normal because i'm a pleb.

now i'll tryhard the extra in order to become a real man

>> No.39724731

>>39724682
I was just playing SoEW myself, but on Lunatic. Made it to Marisa with one life and one bomb and game overed halfway through the fight. I already 1CC'd Normal with all shot types and Hard with ReimuB and C. Speaking of SoEW, is it cheating to not fire at stage enemies on Lunatic?
>now i'll tryhard the extra in order to become a real man
If you have at least a few Lunatic clears on other games then you're doing alright so far. Not to discourage you though, SoEW Extra is something I'd like to beat myself because it's my favorite PC98 game

>> No.39724782

>>39724731
>is it cheating to not fire at stage enemies on Lunatic?
no but you wouldn't get the powerups, i don't think it's viable

i will NEVER do lunatic of the first 2 games because revenge bullets are literal cancer

>If you have at least a few Lunatic clears on other games
uhm, i beat all pc98 games on lunatic with quicksaves, but i guess that doesn't count

but regardless, i WILL tryhard the soew extra.

>> No.39726105

>>39626953
Hey does anyone know where I should place my touhou 6 game files for setting up pytouhou? I just compiled it for my system however the instructions are very vague as to where to place the game files

>> No.39731414

So what counts as cheating in a run? Can you use safespots or exploits like shanghai/malice canon? I think we can all agree something like MarisaBugged and SA bomb glitching is cheating

>> No.39731921

>>39731414
Other than MarisaB, the only exploit I know is prematurely ending the survivals of Okina and Saki. And maybe using autofire macros for SoEW or PoDD.
>Can you use safespots or exploits like shanghai/malice canon?
Yes, I don't see a reason to consider that cheating.
>SA bomb glitching
What's that?

>> No.39732051

>>39731921
This
https://youtu.be/biQnxMbh_ZE

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fuck my ass fuck ahh fucking nerves got the best of me fuuuuck ahhh

>> No.39733756

>>39731921
nta but
>Yes, I don't see a reason to consider that cheating.
While they aren't glitches, they still bother me because they likely weren't intended to be there

>> No.39735172

I hope you guys don't like EoSD, because its entire scoring system is focused around a bug with the point value of bullets cancelled by bombs. Unintended safespots that are abused for graze are ubiquitous throughout the series. The scoring systems in every game TD onward are completely busted as well. It's funny to consider ZUN's "intent" with many of these games since it's obvious he didn't know what he was doing a lot of the time.

>> No.39735504

What do you guys think about Rice Ball/Sutra card for UM? Also there's this one time I got some crappy cards except the homing bullet card, but I thought the card isnt that good and I should just buy a life piece.

>> No.39736142

Have you ever wished two game unique mechanics were in the same game?

>> No.39736204

>>39736142
LoLK's items slowing down from grazing should be in DDC instead.

>> No.39739659

what's an easier clear, SoEW Lunatic or Extra? I have one shot type left to clear the main game with and I'd figure I'd try Lunatic but these revenge bullets are fucking killing me. I'm thinking about going back to Normal just to unlock the Extra

>> No.39740954

>>39739659
the stage part in extra is relatively easy if you memorize everything, and you can start the boss with full lives pretty much every time

the boss is literally impossible tho

>> No.39744378

>>39739659
Extra is purely memorization, it's not that bad, the boss requires some practice but the battle gets easier as it goes on. Lunatic is okay when you learn that sometimes you just need to stop shooting.

>> No.39744977

>>39695248
Games with playable Youmu

>> No.39744988

>>39735504
>I should just buy a life piece
Dumb question, isn't a bomb better unless you're at max bombs?

>> No.39745526

>>39744988
Why? You get new life -> one extra miss is allowed, after that you will get ~2 bombs if you were at 0. At the very least, you cant waste an extra life, but dying with extra bomb will mean that you wasted it.

>> No.39750822

sneed

>> No.39750988

>>39695268
>>by using a controller
How is that a problem?

>> No.39751605
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Does anybody else here play PC98 on T98Next? If so, do you notice the gameplay being out of sync with the music? I looked up replays of LLS Extra on Youtube to see what the part of the song the midboss appears at for example. When I open the game and play it myself, the midboss appears about one or two seconds later into the song than it does in the replays I've watched. I noticed it with SoEW too. Does this mean I have to redo my runs now? I've probably been playing the PC98 games at a slightly slower framerate this entire fucking time and that makes me feel really uncomfortable. The slowrates on the result screen were never that high so I never thought there was a problem until now. I don't wanna go through the hassle of unlocking all those extra stages again...

>> No.39751799

>>39750988
Same way as setting up rapid fire is cheating. If you don't play with shitty default key binds you are cheating.

>> No.39752807

>>39750988
it's cheating only if the game doesn't have native controller support

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>>39735172
Developer intent doesn't really matter at all past the basic mechanics. Devs are historically terrible at gauging the meta and limits of the systems they design, even if they're trying to make a well-designed, competitively viable scoring/speedrunning/versus/etc. game. Pic related, the DDP designers used invincibility to see how far the scoring could go and only got 400m, whereas 600m was quickly reached by people playing legitimately.

Smart designers are obviously more likely to make good games that attract a playerbase, but really, as long as there's people who are interested enough a game's scoring to keep pursuing it, it honestly doesn't matter how much or how little thought was put into it.

>> No.39754392

>>39751605
anon, i'm afraid to tell you all your pc98 runs are now invalid

>> No.39755439

Is there a recommended order to the games for a new player?

>> No.39755458

>>39755439
from 1 to 18 is ok

>> No.39755468

>>39755439
Start with 6. Only play on normal or above.

>> No.39755847

>>39751605
The most commonly used guidelines for replays (https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/High_scores/Updating_guidelines#Replay_troubleshooting_and_dealing_with_suspected_cheating for example) say that the slowdown shouldn't be above 5%, so you might still be able to consider them valid in good faith.
Either way, if you ever feel like attempting the runs again I recommend getting the "touhou98 experience" pack from nyaa, it's got everything set up with the most modern emulators.

>>39755439
Start from 1 if you're autistic enough, you'll enjoy watching the games get more and more refined with each iteration.

>> No.39755936

I only play in normal mode

>> No.39755965

>>39755936
based, me too

>> No.39756107

>>39755936
Same, I don't get this hurry some people have with moving on to hard and lunatic before clearing every shot type on normal. Take it easy and enjoy the journey.

>> No.39756113

>>39755936
I want my first 1cc to be a LNN

>> No.39756219

>>39755847
The thing is, I've played UFO on a really shitty laptop and the game was stuck at 57 or 58 FPS and while it didn't affect the gameplay that much from what I can remember, the music didn't sync with the midbosses like they should and the slowrate on replays would usually be around 0.40 or 0.60 I think, the slowrate for my recent LLS Extra clear was 0.08 so if the framerate was actually slightly slower than it should be I thought the slowrate would be a bit higher. That said, I've been fucking around with SoEW Extra and I think bombing slows down the framerate temporarily as I noticed the music seemed to be less in sync the more I bombed (I could tell by what point the song was at when the first dialogue box appeared) so perhaps I was just an idiot. Still don't know why LLS's Extra seems to be slightly out of sync though
> if you ever feel like attempting the runs again I recommend getting the "touhou98 experience" pack from nyaa
I can't, my ISP blocked nyaa

>> No.39756245

>>39756219
Yeah, it looks like the slowrate stat isn't always accurate. An average of 57FPS corresponds to a slowdown of 3/60 = 5%, which is pretty much borderline but acceptable if you don't have a better PC to play on.

>my ISP blocked nyaa
Feel free to get it from the mega link on the recently archived announcement thread then. Mind the fact there's a 1.01 version near the end of the thread.
>>39459091

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If you ever worry about slowdowns, take solace that at least you're not playing HSoB. I shouldn't have to turn off all effects just to play the extra above 45 FPS, and bombing still tanks my FPS to slightly above 30. I really like the game but holy shit how is a semi-recent game like it so poorly optimized?

>> No.39757384
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MarisaA cleared. Now I'm finally done with SA. I could have cleared it way faster, but I keep choking at Okuu. Also, this shottype is fucking garbage; you get so little bomb back, and the bombs can't clear the screen or deal much damage. I'm pretty sure it's better to intentionally suicide if you have only one life left with low power for the full power item

>> No.39757392

>>39757384
I knew you'd do it! The shot type is so fucking bad, somehow even worse than solo alice IN

>> No.39758143

>>39757384
>>39757392
>Also, this shottype is fucking garbage
Heavily disagree, the shot itself has good damage for a spread-type shot, and it has many instances where you can play unfocused. The bomb is only a problem for stage 4, and even then, you have 8 of them.

>> No.39758379

>>39758143
It's a really good shot type for those that don't need to bomb that much, but for anyone else it's dogshit
There's nearly no way to recover from losing all power since dying gives you 2 power and the shot has 0 spread until at least 4 power

>> No.39758627

>>39756586
Thankfully IBP runs so much better than this.
It'd probably be too much work to be worth it since this circle's games are all freeware, but it'd be great if they could remake HSoB to fix the framerate issues. It's good enough to deserve it.

>> No.39758708

>>39755439
From either 1, 4 or 6.

>> No.39758789

>>39758708
>>39755847
>>39755468
>>39755458
thanks

>> No.39759148

>>39758789
simply put, if you start with 6 then you won't ever bother with 1-5. so if you are planning of going through 1-5 eventually, then it would be better to start with those

>> No.39762072

>>39695249
Congrats.

>> No.39762620

>>39756245
>>>39459091(Cross-thread)
Alright thanks anon, but how do you switch the game? This is so complexAnd because it's stuck on HRtP by default? Is 3 lives the correct amount of starting lives? The game had it set to 5 by default

>> No.39762865

>>39762620
It's actually very simple. You don't need to open the "emulator" folder, you just need to double click on the "th0_" icon corresponding to the game you want to play, that's all.
Every game is completely clean settings-wise, HRtP has 5 lives as the default setting out of the box unlike other games.

>> No.39762866

>>39762620
HRTp has 5 lives by default

>> No.39762916

>>39762865
>>39762866
So HRtP 5 lives 1CCs are valid?

>> No.39762972

>>39762916
Yeah.

>> No.39763101

>>39762972
Fuck me. I was making it harder for myself when I didn't need to. Also, on an unrelated note, I tried SoEW Lunatic with ReimuA just out of curiosity. I expected this shot type to be absolute dogshit because of her fast speed and shit DPS but routing the stages is actually somehow easier than with ReimuC and I still made it to Marisa despite a bunch of dumbd deaths with bombs in stock. Now I know why pearl used this shot for his LNN. Perhaps a Loony clear is manageable after all, Marisa will still be a bitch to fight though

>> No.39768155

don't die

>> No.39768564

>>39768155
I took your advice and now I'm a superplayer. Thanks!

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i finally learned how to beat the soew extra stage part consistently, it's actually pretty easy if you memorize the safe spots

now i need to understand how to beat this fucker since i can't even reach the 3rd phase with max lives...

>> No.39772660

>>39768155
I will try.

>> No.39772833

>>39626953
power bombing sucks because it either leads to press x to win shotgunning the whole game like 10 or extreme stinginess like 11

>> No.39773094

>>39768155
Thanks for the LNN dude.

>> No.39773348

>>39756245
going back to the topic of inaccurate slowrates, DDC always displayed the slowrate at 0.00% regardless but now that I'm using a copy from doujinstyle and not moriya, the slowrates display the correct number. The game still runs at 60 FPS and it only drops a little when a lot of bullets get canceled although sometimes it will also drop to to 59 FPS for no reason at random. I shouldn't worry about it should I?

>> No.39774104

>>39773348
Yeah, as I said earlier it would need to run constantly below 57fps for the run to be void. A couple dozen one-second dips, even below 30fps, would only result in a slowdown of 0.6% over a half-hour run.

>> No.39779081

>>39774104
It feels weird having some replays with a proper slowdown rate and some without but I just want to stop being autistic and enjoy the damn game
>A couple dozen one-second dips, even below 30fps, would only result in a slowdown of 0.6% over a half-hour run
Happened on HSiFS Lunatic except the slowdown was 0.2%

>> No.39780343

>>39629873
Don't. always bomb Yamame opener, too.

>> No.39782224

>>39780343
Only bomb if she moves down

>> No.39782243

Are there any early stage bosses you consistently choke and make a stupid mistake on despite being able to do it perfectly fine the other 90% of the time? For me it's Chen

>> No.39782263

>>39782243
I've shot Parsee's clone more than I'd like to admit. If not that, then Aki's stupid fight

>> No.39782539

>>39782243
I'm pretty bad at Chen too
Sekibanki with anyone but SakuyaA is kinda hard for me, her spells kinda drag, they're not that bad but ask me to survive more than 20 seconds and i'm gonna start choking.

>> No.39783182

>>39782243
I always choke against Kogasa.

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>> No.39783575

>>39697354
Fuck that scene in particular.

>> No.39783579

>>39704610
Congratulations! That's still a real achievement.

>> No.39789731
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SA Extra is driving me crazy

>> No.39789987

>>39627921
not the other anon but what does P/X/L/H/N mean? I do not understand how to read this :(
yes i am retarded

>> No.39790009

>>39789987
Phantasm/Extra/Lunatic/Hard/Normal

>> No.39791052

>>39789731
Huh? EoSD normal into fucking SA? INTO EXTRA? Either this chart is incomplete or you already have bullet hell experience.

>> No.39791138

>>39791052
I actually started with SA because I like aaalll the girls in it
Then my friend told me to start EoSD, so I thought why not
is this weird?

>> No.39793145

Is there a list of what scores you need to get to remove the "I can't write a good article with pictures like these" comment in StB? I believe it's based on your highest photo for that scene.

>> No.39793764

>>39791138
It is. SA is one of the hardest 2Hu games. In fact SA+LoLK are the last games I didn't 1cc, so jump from EoSD to SA is either experience, talent, on unrelenting grind.

>> No.39796889

>>39793764
Well I did play SA for two months straight so I guess it’s just grind + luck lmao

>> No.39802259

EoSD Icicle Fall filters me like a bitch and I don't know why
I just wanna be good at shmups

>> No.39802409

>>39802259
You just need more practice.
If you feel like you aren't making any progress, I'd suggest trying the pc98 games for a change of pace.

>> No.39802437
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*is the worst shot type in in in your path*

>> No.39802676

>>39802437
that's not DDC SakuyaB

>> No.39802756

>>39802409
Thanks anon.
Do you know where I can get them? I'm using thcrap files my friend gave me for EoSD.

>> No.39803374

>>39802756
There's a download link in the /vg/ thread.

>> No.39805036

>>39626953
maybe if you like bomb spam

>> No.39805967

>>39802756
See >>39756245

>> No.39806729

Touhou World Cup is starting!

https://www.twitch.tv/touhou_replay_showcase
https://www.twitch.tv/touhou_replay_showcase
https://www.twitch.tv/touhou_replay_showcase

>> No.39807016

JP commentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHnrsQ2QKXE

>> No.39807066

Will there be a Touhou 19 this year?

>> No.39808774

Is there a 1CC chart but for scoring?

>> No.39809052

>>39808774
You know, in years past, people would just post screenshots of Excel sheets or text files where they kept track of their progress.

>> No.39810547

>>39808774
Scoring comes after filling the whole chart, I doubt more than a couple people here have done that.

>> No.39810844

>>39806729
I got nervous just watching this. KTT is so insane.

>> No.39811550
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>>39808774

>> No.39811574

>>39811550
I've seen this before, but is there something like it for all games? thx btw

>> No.39811780

>>39807066
No. You will get 18.5 developed by ZUN instead, starring Tsukasa. Mark my words.

>> No.39811814

>>39811574
I made it as a half joke, but I'd make something real if I could think of a way to portray a useful amount of information without the chart being absolutely enormous (e.g. scoring tiers for each shot and difficulty) or requiring an unreasonable amount of research (e.g. investigating and choosing roughly equivalent "milestones" for every category) that would end up being fragile as the meta shifts due to new tricks and techniques being discovered over time. The easiest would probably be to just use the existing 1CC chart but fill the boxes with different colors according to what percentage of the current world record you've obtained (50%, 80%, 90%, 95%, 99%, WR) or just straight up putting the percentages in the boxes. Some categories would be much easier to get 90%+ than others just due to the nature of the game, like certain Extras or pretty much all of MoF, but the occasional low hanging fruit should be fine.

>> No.39811892

>>39811814
scoring is not something I am too familiar with mainly because I don't think I'm skilled enough to do it (yet) but what are the "easier" Extras for scoring? I want to do SA and MoF at least because those are two of my favorite. Call me a contrarian if you will but I hate it when people criticize scoring for no reason other than "it's full of trannies". I'm convinced those people are Normalshitters who are jealous. I doubt I'll break any records but I want to do it because that along with LNB is probably the bare minimum for being considered a superplayer

>> No.39812006

>>39811892
>people criticize scoring for no reason other than "it's full of trannies"
When has anyone ever done that? Go to /v/ if all you want is to start some bullshit flamewar.

>> No.39812347

>>39811892
Incidentally, MoF and SA Ex are some of the easiest categories to score well in, since basic no miss/full spell play is enough to get 80%, and picking up a handful of tricks can get you to 90%. Going for 1B in SA Ex was actually how I first got my feet wet, so it's probably a good place to start if you already enjoy it. If you want to graduate to more demanding scoring, most of the others offer a stronger active dichotomy between survival and scoring play, with PCB in particular offering a wide spectrum of increasingly difficult and interesting risk/reward techniques to learn without hard locking you into any specific route.

>>39812006
There have been many variants of "scoring is for autists" over the years, including a little bit here on /jp/. I don't know if it's less common now because of more acceptance or just the fact that basically all actual scoring players stopped posting here almost a decade ago.

>> No.39817657
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>>39811892
>I'm convinced those people are Normalshitters who are jealous.
Jealous of being so autistically obsessed with a game that you keep playing long after it exhausted any of its entertainment value? Not only that but trying to actively purge any leftovers of fun it once had. And most often involving completely artificial, retarded and backwards ways of playing. No thanks.
>"it's full of trannies"
Scoring it shmup equivalent of speedrunning so yeah.

>> No.39818143

>>39817657
Haha yeah, being so good at videogames that you have to challenge yourself is for trannies.

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>>39817657
>keep playing long after it exhausted any of its entertainment value
I'm not a scoring autist, but people have different definitions of entertainment. This is like judging someone going for lunatic clears and challenge runs after beating normal instead of beating normal with all shots.

>> No.39822670

>>39818143
>>39818242
This guy >>39817657 is obviously this guy >>39811892. You can tell he's a tourist; posters here don't use terms like "tranny" or "normalshitter", or act like actually playing the game that the thread is about is somehow a bad thing.
Instead of taking his bait and starting a flamewar over some imaginary, manufactured divide, you should ignore him.

>> No.39823065

LoLK is a lot of fun

>> No.39823159

touhouchads, i'm a code monkey

i there some software/app/website that's missing in the touhou comminity? i'm looking for a virgin market to penetrate

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>>39822670
How do I know you're not also him and giving me a schooling over being baited to really flex those samefag mindgames?

>> No.39824888

fuck evil eye sigma

>> No.39824951

Point of collection is no joke in SA, huh? I keep dying because there's usually plenty of time to get up there in other games, but SA doesn't fuck around and keeps things moving...

>> No.39825465

>>39824951
Just graze to autocollect

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>>39822670
>This guy is obviously this guy
>he's a tourist
>posters here don't use terms like
>or act like
Nice gameplay discussion, faggot. Join the 40%.

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