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Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:51:05 2009 No.3962248 [Reply] [Original]

Ok, so let me get this straight, Saber killed Archer with one hit. Then, Breserker beat down Saber. And then Archer killed Breserker 6 times? How exactly does this work?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:51:05 2009 No.3962250 Welcome to the Nasuverse. Turn off your brain and enjoy your stay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:52:05 2009 No.3962255 Magic. Duh!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:53:05 2009 No.3962260 So let me get this straight, Scissors beats Paper with one hit. Then, Rock beat down Scissors. And then Paper kills Rock by covering it? How exactly does this work?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:53:05 2009 No.3962261 Like paper rock scissors. Affinities.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:54:05 2009 No.3962262

>Saber killed Archer
I assume you are talking about just after the Saber vs Lancer fight? She didn't kill him, he just threw himself in the path of the sword to save Rin.

>Berserker beat down Saber
After the church? Saber lost because it was a large space. In UBW Saber lures him into the graveyard and turns the tides

>And then Archer killed Breserker 6 times? How exactly does this work?
Because he is the bone of his sword.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:54:05 2009 No.3962265 Certain servants can defeat certain servants. For example, UBW Shirou can defeat Gilgamesh, but he wouldn't stand a chance against someone like Saber at full power. Also Shiki can kill servants.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:54:05 2009 No.3962266 Rock < paper < scissors < rock

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:54:05 2009 No.3962269

>>3962248
Surprise attack/slash.
Archer is not made of adamantium, unlike Bersercar.
Saber has already been Gae Bolged and contracted to a useless master, and fights head on the one guy you should not.
Archer actually, you know, fighting and deploying firepower does a decent job.

If this makes you wonder, I think you need to try reading something else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:57:05 2009 No.3962287 Archer has plot armour

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:59:05 2009 No.3962300 >>3962287 Especially when he died.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:00:05 2009 No.3962307 >Surprise attack/slash. This. When Archer was first summoned, he had no idea what was going on until he saw Saber. He froze completely and Saber took advantage of that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:01:05 2009 No.3962312 Berserker is slow. Archer is fast. Archer didn't UBW Saber, or even fight her, he just jumped in front of her sword to save Rin.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:32:05 2009 No.3962476

>>3962307
>When Archer was first summoned, he had no idea what was going on until he saw Saber. He froze completely and Saber took advantage of that.

I played Fate in 2007 but never got around to UBW since it wasn't translated att, so my memory fails but didn't Archer realized what was going on earlier than that scene?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:35:05 2009 No.3962492 >>3962476 Even if he DID, Saber with her super speed appeared, ready to slash Rin and Emiya Boy saw long lost Saber. Even Rin points out that for Archer to freeze up like that, it takes a bit more than a normal surprise factor from the attack.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:37:05 2009 No.3962501 Pretty sure that Saber at the start of the Grail War was stronger (more mana) than the Saber while fighting Basaaka, even after getting pumped full of sweet mana juice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:43:05 2009 No.3962517 Archer was quite surprised because he didn't expect to see Saber.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:43:05 2009 No.3962518
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>>3962501
Pumped full?
Not really.
After a few golems, she cannot even Chink Gil's armor.
But yeah, Saber never comes close to a refill till she gets contracted under RIn.
Full Saber is more like this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:46:05 2009 No.3962531 >>3962518 Is this Kiritsugu's Saber?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:46:05 2009 No.3962533 >>3962518 Is this Saber under Rin or Kiritsugu? I'm pretty sure there were some differences.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:46:25 2009 No.3962535 >>3962246 please cease and desist with your spamming on our board ano ntal k.com thanks in advance have a nice day

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:47:25 2009 No.3962536 >>3962245 please cease and desist with your spamming on our board ano ntal k.com thanks in advance have a nice day

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:48:05 2009 No.3962543 >>3962533 >>3962531 Yeah, it's Kiritsugu. She has great endurance and agility, but luck is abysmal under him. Also her riding skill is better in Fate/zero.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:49:05 2009 No.3962546 >>3962531 >>3962533 Luck is D, so Kiritsugu. Rin Saber has A luck. Isn't it sad, Kiritsugu?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:49:05 2009 No.3962548 >>3962533 Kiritsugu. Rin has more supply in theory, but not that great a difference. An Endless Supply would result to something more like Black Saber, minus the Agility loss due to the nature of energy in that case.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:55:52 2009 No.3962574 >>3962246 please cease and desist with your spamming on our board ano ntal k.com thanks in advance have a nice day

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:57:05 2009 No.3962585 >>3962312 Berserker isn't slow, wasn't it stated that he was at least as fast if not faster than Saber?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:59:05 2009 No.3962589 >>3962585 Berserker is the fastest servant in the 5th war. Anime makes him have some sort of anti-gravitational field that allows Archer to stand around charging arrows for tens of seconds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:59:05 2009 No.3962590 >>3962585 While he can keep up in speed of swings or running, he is not (as) agile.

White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Wed Dec 23 22:10:05 2009 No.3962637

>>3962590
Berserker is fast in a straight line and while standing his ground. He's not a freakin' jumping spider like Rider is, but if it's in front of him, he'll be on it in a second.

Archer froze up when he saw Saber because he recognized her. That's why he got his ass kicked so badly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:15:05 2009 No.3962659 Because of silly Shirou, Saber couldn't use the prana bursts that allow her to move at several times the speed of sound.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Wed Dec 23 22:16:05 2009 No.3962671 >>3962659 That's with a command spell actively boosting her speed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:17:05 2009 No.3962675 >>3962659 Even with a proper master, overexerting too much leads to temporary weakening regardless. While Servants gain Autoheal as spirits, mana dependency is a bitch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:21:05 2009 No.3962691 >>3962671 What? I don't remember this from what's been translated of F/Z. Is this from some event in F/SN?

>>	eek !SYLPH2qXy2 Wed Dec 23 22:30:05 2009 No.3962739 archer is shirou. he was surprised to see saber and hesitated.

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