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>> No.3931527
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>> No.3931554

>>3931527

Goddamn, I never knew he had so many powers. That's nuts, no wonder he almost broke the universe on multiple occasions.

>> No.3931563

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Yukari_Yakumo

Yukari's powers > The Flash's powers

>> No.3931567

Finally something to respond with to that Flash copypasta.

>> No.3931570

What can't Misaka do?

>> No.3931579

>>3931570
Bring ed's mom back to life

>> No.3931580

Beaten by Raymoo.
Yukari's not so great.

>> No.3931585

Yuka > Yukari

>> No.3931593

>>3931580
Reimu has her own God hax that explains why she's able to fight against most of the youkai.

The only two Touhous that could beat Yukari is Sikieiki and Yorihime.

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Watatsuki_no_Yorihime

>> No.3931594

hell she even admitted being no match against shiki

>> No.3931595

>>3931593
Yuka beat Shiki
hell probably even Shinki and EX-Alice can beat her, but i'm probably stepping into a dangerous territory there

>> No.3931603

the motherfucking flash is still funnier

>> No.3931623

>>3931595
>i'm probably stepping into a dangerous territory there
No you aren't because PC-98 never happened.

>> No.3931627

>>3931563
Holy shit man that's hax hax

>> No.3931632

>>3931623
yeah in my touhou world konata is the strongest touhou

>> No.3931633

op's pic hurt my eyes

>> No.3931635

Yukari? As far as her powers go, if she manipulated every border there was, everything would exist as a single object.

-Perfect Memento in Strict Sense


It looks like she has the ability to manipulate boundaries. Kaguya has the opposite power, the ability to manipulate the boundary-less aka eternity. Put the two together? You've got God.
Added with Eirin? Mind of God + God power
Added with Mokou? Mind of God + God power + impossible to kill by any means.

That's the holy trinity for ya in the ZUNiverse.

>> No.3931644

>>3931585
>>3931595
Manipulation of the boundaries of spacetime, illusions, dreams, reality/fantasy, i.e., fictional/actual.

>

Manipulation of flower petals

>> No.3931652

>>3931644
Ultimate magic users can create universes and lifeforms
of course you kiddies only read yuka vs yukari and believe it's canon

>> No.3931660

>>3931633 op's pic hurt my eyes

It's still in its beta stage. And, as you can see I fail at fonts. Can someone create a proper version that's on par with [>>3931527] this.

>> No.3931661

>>3931652
Yukari is thinking of hitting a Ultimate magic user? well she isn't anymore, a fucking tree started growing inside of her brain.

>> No.3931667 [DELETED] 

>>3931661
Yukari somehow regenerates and is thinking about how to deliver the final blow? Well fuck her, now she is fighting against another youkai with the same abilities as her. Make that three hundred billions of yukaris against a single one.

>> No.3931670

>>3931661
Yukari somehow regenerates and is thinking about how to deliver the final blow? Well fuck her, now she is fighting against another youkai with the same abilities as her. Make that three hundred billions of yukaris against a single one.
Meanwhile the Ultimate Magic user sits back and relaxes.

>> No.3931672

>>3931652
>>3931661
Magic can be taught to anybody though. So even if there was a magician in the Touhouverse that was stronger than her, all she would have to do is learn their power.

>> No.3931674

>>3931661
Except that was just part of the"magic user"'s daydream. In fact him having any supernatural powers at all was just his imagination.

>> No.3931677

>>3931672
And control it. Alice couldn't control it in MS Extra, then she messed up in the middle of the battle, dropped the book and Yuka learned it.

>> No.3931682

>>3931674
The UM user created a universe without boundaries in it. Yukari can't manipulate shit.

>> No.3931683

>>3931593
Yorihime was a joke.
No way would ZUN ever admit to this being canon.

>> No.3931690 [DELETED] 

>>3931670
>Also, after Mystic Square's extra ending, as planned, Yuka received the ultimate
magic. The author himself doesn't know exactly what is it.

>It's definitely something moe. Moe~.
>Moe

Your argument is no longer valid.

>> No.3931692

>Also, after Mystic Square's extra ending, as planned, Yuka received the ultimate magic. The author himself doesn't know exactly what is it.

>It's definitely something moe. Moe~.
>Moe

Your argument is no longer valid.

>> No.3931693

>>3931683

>Yorihime
>not canon


Look, I know my talk of the Lunarians being unbeatable super-soldiers grates on your nerves, but ZUN and Aki Eda pretty much engraved it in stone with SSIB and Cage In Lunatic Runagate - both of which are canonical and establish the Lunarians as being God Fucking Tier in almost everything. They could conquer Gensokyo in one fell swoop if Kaguya wasn't there.

>> No.3931695

>>3931690
noticed the part in where he started a different paragraph?

>> No.3931696

>>3931682
Universe without boundaries would
a: be bounded by idea of being a universe separate from this one, and
b: be unusable as you can't get to it or interact with it without creating boundaries.

>> No.3931698

>>3931696
the UM user creates it around yukari, considering it has no boundaries it will merge with yukari and then the UM user would simply make it disappear
seriously yukari is strong but fuck the ultimate magic

>> No.3931708

Imagine you ask Yukari to create a gap in your own pants that connects to the vigina of Reimu in a remote location (probably sipping tea) so that as you erect it goes inside the vigina, and Yukari says yes but connects the gap to Marisa's instead (without you knowing), just to piss you off.
That would be a mighty troll.

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>>3931693
Oh great, now Arc has come to shit up the thread.

As far as I know the only Touhou ZUN can be quoted as saying has enough power to destroy all of Gensokyo is Yukari.

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>>3931708
>implying I would rather have sex with Reimu than Marisa

>> No.3931712

>>3931698
If there is "inside" and "outside" then it has at least one boundary.

>> No.3931713

>>3931698
To form the universe around Yukari so that she does not exist, you'd have to be able to manipulate Yukari's boundary of "existence" in the first place, essentially beating her at her own game. Considering Yukari's had more experience in manipulating boundaries it's doubtful anyone could pull it off.

>> No.3931716

>>3931709
because gensokyo is covered by a barrier (which is pretty much a boundary)

>> No.3931717

>Byakuren sucks cock and should go crucify herself
Repaired

>> No.3931721

>>3931712
but as soon as yukari merges with it all the UM user has to do is dissipate it
>>3931713
if I create a universe with "no boundaries" and Yukari is in it, she turns into one with it, since there is nothing that separates them.

>> No.3931722

>>3931709

I wonder, why do the Lunarians make you so butthurt? Whose Cheerios did they piss in, recently?

Anyway, it is canon that Yukari's invasion force was trounced horribly upon making landfall on the Moon. A force that powerful could easily dominate Gensokyo, but not necessarily destroy it. If you'd been reading through your tears, you may have noticed I said CONQUER, not DESTROY.

Where's that SUPERIOR ANON INTELLECT? Shouldn't you be using it to comprehend my words properly? I said nothing about total destruction of Gensokyo.

>> No.3931727

>>3931721
If you create a universe with "no boundaries" you'd destroy yourself, and the entirety of THIS universe you're in because your universe and THIS universe would have no boundaries. GG, you've killed yourself as well as everything.

>> No.3931733

>>3931721
Assuming he manages it without her manipulating his action from real to imagined possibly. Either is conceivably omnipotent so I can't really see an end to this argument.

>> No.3931738

>>3931727
the conditions inside of that universe are "no boundaries" i never said that universe was the same as ours

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>>3931738
It doesn't have to BE in ours.

The fact that there is a universe separate to ours means that THERE IS A BOUNDARY TO THAT SEPARATE UNIVERSE.

That's the whole point about two things being separated by a boundary. And with a boundary around that universe, Yukari can manipulate it.

(Not to mention you said you're forming the universe around Yukari in the first place. Yukari's not exactly outside the universe herself).

>> No.3931756

>>3931733
yeah i give up, i'm too tired to think about this shit

>> No.3931771

>>3931756
Have a nice rest!

>> No.3931773

>>3931716
>because gensokyo is covered by a barrier (which is pretty much a boundary)
Are you implying Earth isn't covered by boundaries? If I wanted to I could list hundreds of boundaries in the Earth's atmosphere alone. "Barriers" have nothing to do with Yukari's power of destruction. Her power is on par with most Gods of the Touhouverse. According to ZUN she could have "easily" destroyed Gensokyo. Just the mere fact that she didn't is proof that she was holding back against Reimu. I guess at the end of the day she's still a good natured youkai. Her motives are powered by boredom/curiosity.

>>3931722
The Lunarians are just humans with magic and science. They're strong in the same way that Reimu is strong. And by that I mean they rely on things.

>> No.3931779

>>3931773

> The Lunarians are just humans with magic and science

Enhanced, pure humans.

Who, according to ZUN, were the originators of magic.

They are on a level above ordinary Earth creatures. You can yell at me until you're blue in the face, throw a temper tantrum, and call me names, it won't erase ZUN's testimonies about this.

>> No.3931790

>>3931779
>Who, according to ZUN, were the originators of magic.
That was said in an exaggerated context by Kaguya.

Learn your Touhou canons, it could save your argument.

>> No.3931796

Can't say I'm really a fan of that ship, OP.

>> No.3931797

>>3931790

>That was said in an exaggerated context by Kaguya.

And it's canon. Not fan-work, not doujinshi, but IN THE OFFICIAL WORK. Don't come to me with bullshit about 'Oh, she might have been lying'. I'm fairly sure that was the truth, and there's plenty of evidence to support it. Nothing has proven that she was lying, so you can take that and shove it.

>> No.3931872

>>3931722
>Anyway, it is canon that Yukari's invasion force was trounced horribly upon making landfall on the Moon.
ZUN hinted that Yukari's motives for sending them was only to teach them not to invade other territories.

>A force that powerful could easily dominate Gensokyo
[Citation needed]

According to ZUN, the Hakurei Barrier alone is enough to stop most Lunarians from entering Gensokyo. Yukari happens to be one of the people (hinted at) having a hand in the creation of the Hakurei Barrier.

>> No.3931883

>>3931797

It's called "flavor lore", and every decent fictional setting has it. This is basically the entire purpose of PMISS.

>> No.3931890

>>3931872

>ZUN hinted that Yukari's motives for sending them was only to teach them not to invade other territories.

Yes, throw your army against a vastly superior force and watch it crumble. We all know she had no intention of gaining ground there.

> [Citation needed]
>According to ZUN, the Hakurei Barrier alone is enough to stop most Lunarians from entering Gensokyo. Yukari happens to be one of the people (hinted at) having a hand in the creation of the Hakurei Barrier

People get in Gensokyo when they're not supposed to all the time, that's how most of the games play out.

Anyhoo...the Lunarians wouldn't enter to begin with because the Earth is impure, another thing set in stone by ZUN. The fight would have to come to them, so I'm thinking a hypothetical Gensokyo set on the surface of the moon.

Quite seriously, the Lunarians wouldn't conquer anything on Earth, so that rules out the possibility entirely. Notice, however, in the original post that I didn't say they would. I said that they -could-, which is just a suggestion.

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>>3931883

>implying that 'flavor lore' means 'outright falsehoods'

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>Taking the plot of Touhou seriously

>> No.3931911

>>3931910

>arguing about touhou

Yes, this is for virgins, I agree. I'll stop now.

>> No.3931924

i want my cock to be wormholed to my ass by Yukari.

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>とにかく、境界の能力には防御法も弱点も一切存在しない。
In any case, there is not a single defense against or weak point in the ability to manipulate boundaries.

>万に一つも勝ち目はないだろう。
Humans probably have no chance of winning against her.

>境界を操る能力は、全ての物事を根底から覆す恐ろしい能力である。
The ability to manipulate boundaries is a terrifying ability capable of fundamentally undermining reality.

>もし全ての物に境界が存在しなければ、それは一つの大きな物であると
いう事である。つまり、境界を操る能力は、論理的創造と破壊の能力である
。 論理的に新しい存在を創造し、論理的に存在を否定する。
If there were no boundaries, everything would probably exist as a single enormous object. Thus, the ability to manipulate boundaries is an ability of logical creation and destruction. It essentially creates a new being, or denies the existence of a being.

>妖怪が持つ能力の中でも神様の力に匹敵するであろう、最も危険な能力
の一つである。
Among the abilities youkai are known to possess, this is one of most dangerous, being even comparable to the power of gods.

>物理的な空間だけでなく、絵の中や夢の中、物語の中等にも移動する事
も出来るという。
It's said that this ability is not limited to physical space, but also applies to pictures, others' dreams, and even stories.

FACT: with the exception of Yuka, ZUN has never spoken so vividly about the power of standalone youkai. Everything he says about Yukari hints at her being the strongest species of youkai.

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>とにかく、境界の能力には防御法も弱点も一切存在しない。
In any case, there is not a single defense against or weak point in the ability to manipulate boundaries.

>万に一つも勝ち目はないだろう。
Humans probably have no chance of winning against her.

>境界を操る能力は、全ての物事を根底から覆す恐ろし 能力である。
The ability to manipulate boundaries is a terrifying ability capable of fundamentally undermining reality.

>もし全ての物に境界が存在しなければ、それは一つの大きな物であると いう事である。つまり、境界を操る能力は、論理的創造と破壊の能力である
。 論理的に新しい存在創造し、論理的に存在を否定する。
If there were no boundaries, everything would probably exist as a single enormous object. Thus, the ability to manipulate boundaries is an ability of logical creation and destruction. It essentially creates a new being, or denies the existence of a being.

>妖怪が持つ能力の中でも神様の力に匹敵するであろう 最も危険な能力 の一つである。
Among the abilities youkai are known to possess, this is one of most dangerous, being even comparable to the power of gods.

>物理的な空間だけでなく、絵の中や夢の中、物語の中にも移動する事も
出来るという。
It's said that this ability is not limited to physical space, but also applies to pictures, others' dreams, and even stories.

FACT: with the exception of Yuka, ZUN has never spoken so vividly about the power of a (standalone) youkai. Everything he says about Yukari hints at her being the strongest species of youkai.

>> No.3932003

I was considering moving to Gensokyo but if this is the sorta shit that goes down there on a daily basis, fuck that.

>> No.3932040

>>3932003
Not really. Daily life in Gensokyo is "Ho hum it sure is quiet. Oh look fairies made it rain and stole my riceballs. *sips tea* "

>> No.3932056

>>3931722
Natural defences != offensive prowess
Lunarians have... Toxin.

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>>3932056

>implying that natural defenses drove off the invaders

>> No.3932150

>>3932093
Oh, you're right.
It's not like they're on a FUCKEN MOON or some other scarce-of-resource place.
If you interpret the war as an actual war, and not some pansy happy-go-lucky thing you might imagine it to be, you would see the Lunarians have a massive advantage of terrain.
But that's too grimdark for you, Arc.

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Technically the Goddesses like Suwako and Kanako are the strongest (despite the fact that Eastern Gods aren't as powerful as our Western God). The only reason why Reimu can fight (and win) against powerful Touhous like Yukari, Yuka, and Eirin is because she has the ability to summon the power of the Gods. The only reason why Yukari is in the upper bracket of powerlevels is because ZUN specifically states that "her power of manipulation is on par with the Gods."

It is said that Yukari enjoys holding back her power during fights in order to toy with them; Reimu probably used that as an advantage. Even immortal characters like Mokou and Kaguya were defeated by Reimus' (canon) God hax.

Yorihime has the same powers as Reimu except more, making her one of the strongest characters in the Touhouverse. Even the strongest of Lunarians relies on the power of the Gods. The only advantage that Reimu would have in a fight against her is that Gensokyo's Gods are stronger.

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>This thread

>> No.3932282

>>3932217
>Here's a bunch of wrong shit I made up, enjoy

>> No.3932290

>>3932150

>If you interpret the war as an actual war, and not some pansy happy-go-lucky thing you might imagine it to be

BUNNY SPACE MARINES gunning down youkai with laser cannons, plasma rifles, and slicing them to bits with high-frequency blades, not to mention crushing them under the gears of gigantic tanks, is pansy and happy-go-lucky?

Shocking.

in b4

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In during

>> No.3932304 [DELETED] 

>>3931516
stop spamming ure crappy clone boards on ano
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>> No.3932334

>>3932290
The irony.
The thing is, I doubt they ever got to that point.
They would have to build up fortifications and such.
They might have starved to death before any action.
Logistics would also play an important role.
Who are you to say that the events went on exactly as you have them in your head.
Seriously, be a bit more realistic. War doesn't only take place at the front lines.

>> No.3932357

>>3932282
Canon != made up

Whether you accept it or not, Reimu has indeed defeated Yukari, Yuka, Kaguya, Remilia, and etc... The only explanation for why something like that would be possible is her ability to summon the gods. The only final bosses she *might* be able to beat with her human tier powers alone, are Remilia and Byakuren.

So far, the strength of the strongest youkai have been measured by how strong they are in comparison to the gods. As far as I know, there isn't a stronger force above said gods. I doubt Yuka and Yukari combined could defeat Kanako.

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>>3932290

"Hail to thee! Tsukiyomi-outosama, lunar father upon thy throne. Shoulder by shoulder, a legion times a legion we stand, ready to march in death for thy glory. Triumph to thee, to the enemy, death! Baptize barren Luna scarlet in their blood! Glory, unity, majesty! Hail! Hail! Hail!"

>> No.3932434

>>3932357
>Canon != made up
Unless you're reading umineko.

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>>3932406

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Now with MS Comic Sans.

>> No.3932538

>>3932357
Now, all these games don't really reflect the true powers of the characters, considering they're basically playing card games before afternoon tea time, but I do recall Yukari saying herself during Immaterial and Missing Power that her powers don't affect Suika.

Moving on to my personal opinion about the subject: blah blah blah.

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>>3932473

Ich hatt' einen Kameraden
Einen bessern findst du nit
Die Trommel schlug zum Streite
Er ging an meiner Seite
In gleichem Schritt und Tritt

Eine Kugel kam geflogen
Gilt's mir oder gilt sie dir?
Sie hat ihn weggerissen
Er ligt zu meinen Füßen
Als wär's ein Stück von mir

Will mir Hand noch reichen
Derweil ich eben lad'
Kann dir die Hand nicht geben
Bleib du im ew'gen Leben
Mein guter Kamerad

>> No.3932760

Where's my Touhou FPS about killing moon rabbits?

>> No.3932820

>>3932760

Call of Spellsign: Lunar Warfare will be released the same time as Cirno Racing.

Stay frosty.

>> No.3932843

>>3932820
Thanks for that title bro. Brb, going to go get a copyright.

>> No.3932850

>>3932538
That seems rather counter intuitive, considering Yukari is the only reason the heroes can fight Suika.

>> No.3932885

STB is a perfect way of measuring the Touhous' powerlevels. In STB characters appear in order of weakest to strongest.

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Shoot_the_Bullet:_Characters

>> No.3932888

>>3932820
OSCAR MARISA

>> No.3932982

What's wrong with Byakuren?

>> No.3933058

>>3932982
Her powers are lame.

>> No.3933066

>>3932888

GET UP, SANAE!
SHRINE MAIDENS LEAD THE WAY!

>> No.3933083

>>3932357
>Whether you accept it or not, Reimu has indeed defeated Yukari, Yuka, Kaguya, Remilia, and etc... The only explanation for why something like that would be possible is her ability to summon the gods. The only final bosses she *might* be able to beat with her human tier powers alone, are Remilia and Byakuren.

Um they had a danmaku duel, did you forget what the games are about.

I never saw someone become a secondaryfag using the actual canon, before.

>> No.3933112

>>3933066
ENEMY SPELLCARD SPOTTED

>> No.3933119

>>3933083
You make it sound as if they had a peaceful game of chess or something. Don't be a moron, arc.

More canon truth, Yuka eats humans for breakfast.

>> No.3933145

>>3933112

OUR CROW TENGU IS ONLINE

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>>3932760

I'd rather have a stealth-action game where a single soldier must infiltrate the moon and stop the Lunarians from creating a terrible superweapon.

>> No.3933175

REIMU TAKE POINT

GOD DAMN IT REIMU KEEP UP

>> No.3933211

>>3933169

Patchu Gear Reimu 3: Sanae-ko Eater?

>> No.3933234

>>3932850
Well, she's the reason gensokyo exists in the first place. Or are you talking about her calling Suika? I'm pretty sure Suika was in mistform covering all of gensokyo at the time, so if they so much as said her name she'd hear. Yukari just called Suika or alternately changed boundaries so the heroines could see her.

>> No.3933531

A very well thought out summary of Yukari's overpowered-ness, but the fact is that Yukari~n sleeps like.. 75% of the time.

So shes not much of a threat in many respects, due to being even more lazy than NEET.

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Dumping more Yukari copypasta on you chaps.

>> No.3933610

>>3933169
>>3933211
Udon Gear Solid 3: Zayaku Eater

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>>3933610

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