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A thread to discuss みけねこ

Twitter: https://twitter.com/95rn16
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC54JqsuIbMw_d1Ieb4hjKoQ
Twitcasting: https://twitcasting.tv/95rn16
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikeneko.x/
Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@minyan84

Last archived stream: https://youtu.be/v4OpuIBGWas

Previous Thread: >>39254229

>> No.39281074
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I love my wife Mikeneko. I want to protect her

>> No.39281101

>>39281074
But she said I'm her boyfriend earlier today

>> No.39281107

Really? Spamming the board now with 2 threads?
>>39254229
>>39254229

>> No.39281122

>>39281107
You are free to cry about it

>> No.39281190
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>>39281101
Mikeneko is only mine. You will never take her away from me

>> No.39281322

>>39281295
The collab that Kson mentioned, that's a bait, they will never collab.

>> No.39281456

I wonder why it showed up now of all times

>> No.39281476

Mafu here, ask me anything

>> No.39281496
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I love her and we're married and live together in Hokkaido

>> No.39281497

>>39281107
what's wrong? mad you didn't have enough time to make a troll thread again?

>> No.39281503

>>39281496
that's a lie because I flew her over to burgerland in my private jet so we can live together

>> No.39281518

>>39281497
That's the /jp/ gatekeeper.
Are you new here?

>> No.39281522
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you guys can have mikeneko
I'll keep im cat and marry her, we'll become pokemon masters together.

>> No.39281525

>>39281518
it could be any one of those 2 at this rate let's be honest

>> No.39281532

>>39281503
Oh yeah well I'm 5'3" manlet yankee with luscious blonde hair

>> No.39281541
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Don't cry my wife...PLS BE HAPPY

>> No.39281548

FYI it made like 3 bait threads about her in /vt/ in rapid succession despite there being none about her all day so apparently it just woke up

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>>39281322
Cope

>> No.39281671

I literally know nothing about Genshin other than I can't afford it

>> No.39281697

my wife my wife my wife

>> No.39281868

On a scale of one to ten, how menhera are you and your wife?

>> No.39281947

>>39281868
I once overdosed on adderall for 6 days to commit to LARPing as a person using drugs to create a tulpa of Pekora

>> No.39282930 [DELETED] 

In this postmodern world, individuals flee from the “desert of the real” for the ecstasies of
hyperreality and the new realm of computer, media, and technological experience. In this
universe, subjectivities are fragmented and lost, and a new terrain of experience appears
that for Baudrillard renders previous social theories and politics obsolete and irrelevant.
Tracing the vicissitudes of the subject in present-day society, Baudrillard claims that
contemporary subjects are no longer afflicted with modern pathologies like hysteria or paranoia.
Rather, they exist in "a state of terror which is characteristic of the schizophrenic, an
over-proximity of all things, a foul promiscuity of all things which beleaguer and penetrate him,
meeting with no resistance, and no halo, no aura, not even the aura of his own body protects him.
In spite of himself the schizophrenic is open to everything and lives in the most extreme confusion".
For Baudrillard, the "ecstasy of communication" means that the subject is in close proximity
to instantaneous images and information, in an overexposed and transparent world.
In this situation, the subject "becomes a pure screen a pure absorption and re-absorption
surface of the influent networks". In other words, an individual in a postmodern world
becomes merely an entity influenced by media, technological experience, and the hyperreal.

>> No.39282986

of course the only shiny I've seen so far turns out to be a dumb bird in an eggshell

>> No.39283028

I'm still so happy over the last stream, I can't wait for the next one.

>> No.39283144
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I miss her

>> No.39283287

>>39283144
I wanna lick her tummy

>> No.39283316

Instagram

>> No.39283323

I'd let her bite me

>> No.39283354

That's a cool cosplay!

>> No.39283386
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>menhera cosplaying as Toga
quite fitting

>> No.39283429

>>39283386
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY WIFE COSPLAYING MY OTHER WIFE AHHHHHHHHHHH I'M GONNAAAA CUUUUUUUMMMMMM

>> No.39283443

Don't let her align with chink interests
Protect her from the Chinese

>> No.39283459

>>39283386
drain me dry, beat me to a pulp, abuse me in any ways you see fit

>> No.39283486

>>39283429
(Me) I just now realized I think I actually have a fetish for Menheras...
jesus

>> No.39283533

Bros....do you think she'd cosplay Rushia in bed if I ask her?
Imagine the sex...

>> No.39283537

spare tyre
https://youtu.be/5Y2Dq4cZ5vA

>> No.39283913

>see new recommended news article mobile alert
I think google might be a little confused
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/7ce51fc01db4ea4cc8cfb7f2235ac531b380e1d5

>> No.39283949

>>39283913
it's actually named "Mii" as well holy fucking shit

>> No.39284158

when exactly was the cursed twitcast? i just realized that guutara tweeted around the right times
https://twitter.com/whatweneed8837/status/1493237305393303557
https://twitter.com/whatweneed8837/status/1497143814372216833
Choco never actually said anything when the others were making the generic response tweets to the announcement.

>> No.39284198

>>39284158
Feb 19/20 depending on your timezone. It was 20 in hers around 5:30 am.

>> No.39284246

>>39284158
keep in mind the cursed twitcast was also the alleged day she was also fired privately

>> No.39284314

>>39284198
wasn't it assumed that the others knew about it beforehand? it could be completely coincidental, but Kuroa said something similar
https://twitter.com/kuroa_06/status/1493800547496841217
https://twitter.com/kuroa_06/status/1493799032816222209

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>> No.39284505

>>39284314
forgive my ignorance but which individual is that?

>> No.39284537

>>39284505
purple kusogaki

>> No.39284673

You know, one benefit of keeping archives secretive is that we can fight narratives by making up absolutely batshit ones and just pretending they're true and tourists are so dumb they'll believe and spread it

>> No.39284679

https://youtu.be/PTUE7cvFsZY
Kson is going to fuck your oshi.

>> No.39284680

I can't believe she talked about all those illegal munitions purchases last stream, she's really playing with fire but it's a good thing she managed to hide them before the cops arrived. I wonder where she stored all the explosives...

>> No.39284719

>>39284679
I said this, I possessed Kson live on stream

>> No.39284723

>>39284679
Kson will never collab and have lunch with Mikeneko....

>> No.39284748

>>39284314
What is the significance of this? That she knew Rushia got fired? Or that she had a take on it?

>> No.39284801

>>39284748
Just that it was upsetting to them

>> No.39284819

Why are you people still obsessing over muh black company when it's obvious she just fucked up

>> No.39284833

>>39284801
Ah, that's nice to hear. More proof it wasn't "muh evil Rushia tried to bomb Cover and they hated her forever" narrative.
Regarding that, I agree with the previous points made that we'd benefit from publishing the TLs, dispelling rats is important. So many people still are on that Day 1 surface level shit.

>> No.39284834

>>39284819
>obsessing over it
Because we're mildly curious about the details of something that has crippled the emotional stability of the only person we love in the whole world?

>> No.39284840

>>39284834
Her emotional stability was crippled before this too

>> No.39284858
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>俺らが彼氏や!!
>本当?いずれ捨てるんじゃない。大丈夫捨てないよね?私のこと捨てないで。

>> No.39284893

>>39283386
I would let her blow me

>> No.39284927
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39284927

We finally completed our legacy. Time to sleep.

>> No.39284933

>>39284927
smiling rushi makes me happy
I want to see her smile again

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I want to see her smile again

>> No.39284991

she honestly looked pretty cute pre-surgery.
But I guess girls obsess over perfect appearances there way too much

>> No.39285049

>>39284952
>>39284959
Watch out. Somebody is going to call you an anti for this.

>> No.39285068

>>39284952
>>39284959
In each photo she looks like someone different

>> No.39285103

>>39285049
I haven't seen these pics used commonly as bait before so I have zero issue with them

>> No.39285257

>she tried going for plastic surgery before, 18-19
>I want to change the shape of my face! (?)
>doctor: you'll have to cut through your jaw bone you know, you sure?
>oh... Uhh, then my nose?
>doctor:. ...nah
>uhh, my cheeks then
>doctor takes a look, then says: those are called baby fat (?), they'll go away when you get older
>ends up walking away with no surgery
>is now thankful she never got any (but wants to try to see what it's like)(but is also too afraid of the pain to go through with it)
Bless that doctor

>> No.39285355

>>39285068
plastic surgery in progression

>> No.39285406

>>39285257
ah is that what happened? pretty interesting to see her shift gradually into how she looks now

>> No.39285481

>>39285257
based wife

>> No.39285948

>>39284952
>>39284959
She looked really fucking pretty in both of the pictures and i would've married her on the spot.
Right now i think she looks like a south korean plastic alien and it hurts to look at her.
She will never be as pretty as she was and this is a hill I'm willing to die over.
t. casual fan

>> No.39285967

>>39284959
It honestly triggers me beyond belief that people don't agree this is the most fuckable and wife material she looked.

>> No.39286010

>>39285967
And it went all downhill from there.

>> No.39286063

>>39285103
>>39285049
the only pictures i usually see being posted by antis were the nose picking one with a Rushia hair superimposed on it, and the undressing one with an inset of a male watcher at the corner.

>> No.39286147

Twitcast

>> No.39286149

>>39284952
>>39284959
anti posted these
fuck off

>> No.39286170

Did she press a button in her sleep?

>> No.39286197

>>39286170
She makes a tweet about twitcast

>> No.39286233

Let me hear my wife...

>> No.39286235

Stop spamming me Michan...

>> No.39286268

STOP

>> No.39286286

There were many attempts.

>> No.39286300

>technical problem
Home...

>> No.39286304

That was cute. Guessing she was trying to stream while eating outside

>> No.39286307

she typed something in chat but it zoomed by too fast for me to catch it

>> No.39286308

My wife can spam my twitter notifications all she wants.
It was cute to see her attempt an outside twitcast

>> No.39286328

I thought I was waking up to a meltdown...

>> No.39286348

It seems she wanted to do a twitcast while eating out (maybe with camera?), she will try again tomorrow

>> No.39286357

>>39286328
But instead you woke up to her trying to take us on a date outside and also being retarded
which is a little disappointing, but pretty cute right

>> No.39286377

>>39286307
Just her being cute at not being able to stream, no big. Also genshin tomorrow, if possible.

>> No.39286383

>>39286357
Yes, was a very cute relief.

>> No.39286393

>>39286235
>>39286268
>>39286286
I was wondering what you were talking about. I didn't even get one notification

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>> No.39286507

>>39286463
https://twitter.com/sa__ka___na/status/1510941368255885318

>> No.39286542

>>39286507
Sasuga fast fish.

>> No.39286627
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39286627

I'm posting this cause it made me laugh

>> No.39286684

>>39286507
>7 minutes
Hoaly sheet

>> No.39286711

>>39286627
Thank god she found a place she seems happy with. I wonder if she'll tell us more info about it at a later date (no, this isn't for stalking purposes)

>> No.39286779

>>39286711
I hope she tells us more and it is absolutely for stalking purposes

>> No.39286795

>>39286711
Would be interested to know if she will atleast stay within the Tokyo area or not.

>> No.39286797

>>39286463
this fucking fish

>> No.39286811

>>39286627
We are all turning into another Aki.

>> No.39286841

>>39286711
It must be in a city near Tokyo, since she wanted to leave from there and if in the tweet she says she wants to stream if she arrives early it means it is maybe a couple of hours away

>> No.39286953

She responded to the crossdressing artist responding to her

>> No.39287036

>>39286711
I hope this means we're starting to move back towards a more stable streaming schedule

>> No.39287066

> 今みんなに私のはなしをしようかな〜ってすごーく悩んでる( ・ ・̥ )。。その時はたくさん謝らせて欲しいんだ。。。
> いつになるか分からないんだけどね早いかもしれないし遅いかもしれない
> ビックリするかもしれないし私の事嫌いになるかもしれない。。。でも私だけこんな思いしてるの嫌なんだ。。

>> No.39287251

>>39287066
I hope her lawyer sees this and confers with her.

>> No.39287453

https://litter.catbox.moe/qmyqan.jpg

>> No.39287471

>lawyer
kek

>> No.39287607

>>39287453
someone's gonna wake up to all those notifications and start panicking

>> No.39287643

>>39287607
I'm awake and I'm still panicking

>> No.39287711

>>39287643
but anon, you're always panicking

>> No.39287788

Has she made up with Mafu yet?

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>> No.39287876

>>39287788
Anon, he throw her under a bus.
If she didn't have feelings for him she would be even less interested on this.
If she did have feelings for him then she got dumped, denied and basically made a mockery of publicly.
Move on...

>> No.39287927

>>39287066
>ビックリするかもしれないし私の事嫌いになるかもしれない。。。でも私だけこんな思いしてるの嫌なんだ。。
Hmm... I'm worried

>> No.39287956

>>39287066
>>39287927
Why is she still doing the cryptic tweets shit over something she can't tell in months?
There's really nothing positive we can get about this, even if it's a nothingburger at the end.

>> No.39288054

>>39287876
Why are ESLs like you so fixated on your rrats?

>> No.39288081

>>39287876
I just want her to be happy.

>> No.39288100

>>39288054
Miichan let's play Apex!

>> No.39288116

Look at my imaginary lawyer guys, and please support me and help crowdfund expenses for my imaginary legal case.

>> No.39288121

>>39287956
Or she knows that she has done something wrong and is already feeling guilty.

>> No.39288132
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>>39287956
Mikeneko's mind works in mysterious ways.

>> No.39288136

>>39287607
i did

>> No.39288281

>>39287956
she might've thought she'd be able to talk about this whole thing sooner than she currently can. I'm hoping the lawyer she's talking to is at least triple checking things so she doesn't get in any trouble

>> No.39288286

Another earthquake looks like

>> No.39288303

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6HKcNVbByc
Deco 27 just released a new song about how Twitter addiction fucks people up

>> No.39288328

Hope she gets doxxed

>> No.39288404

>>39288328
so there will be new stalker drama and she will stream and talk about it and everyone will give her money, rinse and repeat. come on dude, it's fucking obvious her fans love this menhera and they will eat all the bullshit she spouts from her social media. it doesn't even matter if she gets doxxed or not, there will always be drama and her menhera fans will love her more.

>> No.39288411

>>39288328 (Me)
So i can surprise her with a marriage proposal

>> No.39288443

>>39288404
>it's fucking obvious her fans love this menhera
only good part of this post

>> No.39288465

>>39288404
just look at the mafumafu incident, no one gives a fuck about it anymore, it's never about the truth, they just want mikeneko to be happy, that's all that matters. and even if she did a face reveal and come out as a obasan with thick makeup, they will still love her, they are all addicted to mikeneko, a virtual person they have never met in real life.

>> No.39288501

>>39288465
I literally fucked her tight (not anymore) asshole last night.

>> No.39288511

>>39288443
I know there's anon here that paid alot of money to support her, just an advice from me, don't overspend.

>> No.39288543

>>39288501
The summary of my post is, anti is barking to the air, the real fans here doesn't give a fuck anymore, so you might as well leave this thread alone. Go start your anti thread somewhere else, tight asshole.

>> No.39288708

Two new follows

>> No.39288713

Why is this thread so dead? No fan discussion, no anti baiting, nothing.... Is Mikeneko irrelevant again?

>> No.39288810

>>39288713
Retardchama.....we know you're trying to bait so here's your (you). Bye now.

>> No.39288818

>>39288543
I would but I got banned from /vt/ again

>> No.39288869

>>39288708
Hikakin and this guy https://twitter.com/GaaSyy_ch

>> No.39288975

https://www.hachimitsu-rocket.com/gaashii-bakuro/

>> No.39289006

Has she talked about dick size? Does she prefer big or small dicks? I need to know.
>Horny poster is an anti
Stfu, i just wanna have sex with her and need to know the details.
Does she have nudes out there?

>> No.39289031

>>39289006
>Has she talked about dick size?
Nope, just boob size
>Does she have nudes out there?
Nope, most revealed is a blurry few seconds of bra and a bikini pic

>> No.39289044

>>39289006
she is active on twitter now while you are busy baiting here with your shitpost, anti-kun.

>> No.39289049

>>39289031
thanks for the reply, retard

>> No.39289119

>>39289049
Are you well?

>> No.39289153

>>39289119
I'll be better once you give me the bra and bikini pic
get to work!

>> No.39289166

>>39288869
>>39288975
She doesn't learn, I hope she doesn't talk to that person

>> No.39289212

>>39289044
>She is active on Twitter
Holy fucking cucks, is this your idea of "content"? Twitter activity? Do you have nothing better to do, cuck?
Post the nudes now btw, before i fuck you up.

>> No.39289255

Post the fucking nudes you faggots

>> No.39289337

I'm about to lose my shit if you don't post pictures of her ass

>> No.39289375

Guess I'll leak the new bunker

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>>39289337

>> No.39289510

>>39289386
hot

>> No.39289535

>>39287066
Were these tweets?

>> No.39289544

>>39289386
Faggot

>> No.39289562 [SPOILER] 
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mikeneko pussy
don't open at work

>> No.39289609

What is with it about menheras and owning a bunch of cats?

>> No.39289663

>>39289609
having a pet helps when you feel lonely
cats are cute and tend to be easier to take care of compared to dogs, for example

>> No.39289678

I agree with the /jp/ gatekeepers. Mikeneko doesn't belong on /jp/. She doesn't belong on /vt/. All threads related to her should just be ignored.

>> No.39289742

>>39289678
I just masturbated

>> No.39289816

>>39289678
She unironically belongs on /b/ with the other e-celebs.

>> No.39289821

>>39289742
I didn't because you're a huge fucking faggot that won't post the panties picture

>> No.39289834

>>39289678
She will get a live2D avatar and you will still keep crying by then.

>> No.39289862

>>39289821
>panties
neither of those things I mentioned has panties visible
But she has gone to the conbini while nopan, that was just something she told us about though so no pictures
She's super girly so she was probably wearing a skirt too, just a skirt and fully nopan

>> No.39289896

>>39289862
she did mention she wore a one piece dress while doing that

>> No.39289935

>>39289678
She belongs here. She did JAV.

>> No.39289990

The schizo is being even more schizo today. Must be because of how much we Mikenyan enjoyers are winning.

>> No.39290027

1 Page, no drama, no looping.
I'm proud of you guys

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I hope the stream tomorrow is at a good time, maybe I'll watch during work...

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>> No.39290126

>>39287927
It's very likely she's referring to the situation involving Cover and being what her actions she took that led to her being unpersoned there since she never really mentioned it at all since the termination. I doubt she'll address anything prior to that like the Mafu narratives, etc as she's fully aware the shitstorm that it will stir up from just saying the name.

>> No.39290134

>>39290126
>I doubt she'll address anything prior to that like the Mafu narratives, etc as she's fully aware the shitstorm that it will stir up from just saying the name.
She quite clearly intends to talk about that too, though?

>> No.39290146

>>39290134
While she will talk about that evertually, I doubt this is what she's currently referring to in this specific post is what I meant.

>> No.39290226

When did she put her work e-mail back in her bio

>> No.39290237

>>39290034
Coward artist deleted the art

>> No.39290242

>>39290226
It's been there for a while now. I thought she put it back at least two or three weeks ago?

>> No.39290243

>>39290226
Same day she removed it

>> No.39290252

>>39290226
Many days ago, I can't remember when

>> No.39290270

>finally fixes her twitcast membership link
>breaks her YouTube link again
Adorable

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genshin huh, I wonder how many times she'll roll and how good they'll be

>> No.39290295

>>39290271
How kind or cruel is Genshin gacha?

>> No.39290302

>>39290270
space bar is enemy

>> No.39290351

>>39290295
Pity is 50/50 to get pickup character at the 200 roll, fail there and you're guaranteed to get it at the next 200. Also rolls carry forward between pickups until you get any 5 star. Kind of decent if you're not autistic about maxing the character I suppose.

>> No.39290372

>>39290351
It’s 90, not 200. And there’s a hidden soft pity so getting 90 rolls without getting a 5* is highly unlikely.

>> No.39290450

Where'd the 3-31 video go?

>> No.39290470

>>39290450
still there, just unlisted

>> No.39290482

>>39290470
Shit. I knew I should've bookmarked it.

>> No.39290492

>>39290482
You can access it from your browsing history provided you haven't deleted it

>> No.39290497

>>39290372
Ah, was it really that low? I think I mixed it up with horse girls then.

>>39290482
https://youtu.be/R2yNOLosY7Y

>> No.39290516

>>39290492
Yeah, who would wipe their browsing history anyway, right? Couldn't be me.

>> No.39290535

>>39290497
Thanks, you're a lifesaver

>> No.39290582

>>39290497
kinda curious why she unlisted it

>> No.39290618

>>39290582
sort the comments by new
bunch of garbage in there, not worth keeping it up since most of her fans saw the video by now

>> No.39290791

I love my dumb wife, she's the light of my life

>> No.39290963

Post mikeneko's nipples, i wanna cum

>> No.39291114

Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart races, the one who stole my heart is Y-O-U
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart throbs, please play with my heart -- One more time
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart races, I want you to come see me soon -- Necromantic
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart throbs, a world with only you and I -- Romantic
Necromantic - We have no need for the world’s arbitrary sense of normal
Necromantic - For your decadent romantic body is always abnormal
Woh-oh - I want to see you, I want to see you so bad I could die
Woh-oh - I want you to show me, I want to see where you die
No matter how many times I hurt you, I want you to keep chasing after me
Look at only me alone with those blind eyes of yours...
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart races, the one who stole my heart is Y-O-U
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart throbs, please play with my heart -- One more time
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart races, I want you to come see me soon -- Necromantic
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart throbs, a world with only you and I -- Romantic
Necromantic - Your body will one day rot into a cruelly woeful form
Necromantic - Oh it’s so romantic, no matter how many times I see it
Woh-oh - Do you want to live? I want to see you so bad I could die
Woh-oh - Do you want to die? I want to see where you die
Even if the entire world hates you and becomes your enemy
I’ll be there to love you. I’ll be by your side
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart races, the one who stole my heart is Y-O-U
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart throbs, please play with my heart -- One more time
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart races, I want you to desire me -- Necromantic
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart throbs, you want me to break you, right? Because that’s -- Romantic
Aah, I’m choking on this rupturing heart jumping out my chest -- I keep vomiting love
Aah, I want to tear your pink pulsating heart to pieces -- but for now I’ll keep it in this cage
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart races, the one who corroded my heart is Y-O-U
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart throbs, why won’t you say you love me?
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart races, love me even if I break you -- Necromantic
Doki Doki Waku Waku
My heart throbs, stay by my side, even in death!
Even in death… Even in death… Even in death
Necromantic...
One more time...
Necromantic...

>> No.39291120

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_gCybOJRIgOXw6Qb4qJzQ

>> No.39291165

>>39291120
Fuck you

>> No.39291591

>>39291120
Thanks for reminding me to unsubscribe to that dead channel

>> No.39291668

Why are you hoarding mikeneko's nudes to yourselves?
Link the JAV as well.

>> No.39291837

How do you make it without being able to touch her?

>> No.39291990

testing the idea of encoding links.
WVVoU01HTklUVFpNZVRrd1lWYzFOV1JZU25OTWJVNTJZbE01TldKVWFHOWhiVFV3VGxFOVBRPT0=
b64 xXx

>> No.39291991

>>39291837
Love anon. The power of love.

>> No.39292010

>>39291991
My brain breaks after loving for about two weeks and just resets into hard depression.
>>39291990
shot u're own web

>> No.39292015

>>39291837
There are more important things than that. Though i really want to..

>> No.39292021
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>> No.39292023

>>39291990
btw most of these are easily and automatically defeated by https://cyberchef.org/ automagic wand

>> No.39292034

>>39292010
>My brain breaks after loving for about two weeks and just resets into hard depression.
Wait until you get into a rhythm of catching most/all of her content and then wake up to realize you missed a really emotional twitcast and once the despair settles in the euphoria of being there for the next one will bring it back over and over

>> No.39292041

>>39292010
>My brain breaks after loving for about two weeks and just resets into hard depression.
After meeting her i stopped thinking about ending it. Well maybe besides _that time_

>> No.39292056

>>39292041
I really hope there won't be a re-run of that time. I don't think I'm going to make it alone.

>> No.39292098

>>39292034
I will never forget christmas..

>> No.39292103
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>> No.39292249

Recordings of todays Twitcast here
https://litter.catbox.moe/9nruui.mp3
Link live for 12 hours

>> No.39292256

>>39292249
Gracias

>> No.39292267

>>39292023
so use caesar ciphers. would nips even know about that site?

>> No.39292278

>>39292249
I miss the Twitcast archive

>> No.39292290

>>39292267
Why are you bringing them into this?

>> No.39292310

>>39292249
The stream was like 12 min tho

>> No.39292334

>>39292310
I kept resetting it because of tweetdeck notif pings

>> No.39292365

>>39292249
I am disappointed this isn't a rickroll

>> No.39292369

>>39292290
because the argument against posting archives was that antis might be f5ing 4chan waiting for you to post a link to something that could hurt her.

>> No.39292375
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>> No.39292396

>>39292369
You... realize we have a bunch of antis here, yes?

>> No.39292409

>>39292396
You... realize that antis can access everything she same way you do, yes?

>> No.39292419

>>39292409
In a post-bunker era, yeah

>> No.39292458

>>39292409
I'm not sure what you said about automatic tools is correct for membership twitcasts. If it was the stuff would've been leaked already(but they haven't been) and out of all the archivers I've seen using well-supported tools, they've never seemed to be able to provide archives for streams they weren't awake for. I may fiddle with it a bit myself to make sure but when she has about 2k members, plenty of sensitive content in her mengen casts, and plenty of antis who will fabricate pervasive narratives out of faaar less than what she's said in the twitcasts, I feel like there's something missing here in how easy you claim it is. So far absolutely none of her archives have been leaked in that sense despite how some would have been incredibly effective in terms of smearing her esp. when taken out of context.

>> No.39292476

While I don't like seeing her battle antis on twitter too much, it's nice to see her defend her fans too sometimes.

>> No.39292503

>>39292396
5ch antis. the retards here aren't gonna do shit. and I already explained last thread why even thinking 5ch antis are lurking here for your archive is retarded.

>> No.39292588

>>39292476
it did warm my heart to see that

>> No.39292642

>>39292503
>5ch antis are lurking here for your archive is retarded.
I fucking wish, man. Unfortunately at least one of the habitual antis here wastes his life both here an on 5ch enough to repetitively copy-paste faggoty poems and use slang some random EOP wouldn't know. I assume it's a JSL but it could very easily be an autistic 5ch nip that knows eigo or some demented N3 SEAnigger rat king. If we didn't see plenty of posts to back it up we wouldn't be as paranoid as we are.

>> No.39292654

>>39292458
any software that can use your twitcast cookies/token/whatever can get access to passworded/membership stuff. and you don't have to be a member to see she's doing a membership twitcast. so there's too few antis who give a shit to record/share everything, and/or any material that could come from it isn't as juicy as what's already out there.

still doesn't make it believable that they're lurking here just waiting for you to post some link.

>> No.39292659

>>39292642
Meds

>> No.39292681

>>39292642
so encrypt/password/whatever the links. are you a brainlet? surely you can come up with something an N3 ESL can't figure out. their shitty grammar gives them away immediately.

>> No.39292688

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/05/160531104421.htm

>> No.39292694

>>39292681
>surely you can come up with something an N3 ESL can't figure out
Remember >>>/vt/18591381? Yeah, it's not as easy as you think.

>> No.39292696

>>39292654
>any software that can use your twitcast cookies/token/whatever
Examples? Purely for personal use, promise.

>> No.39292697

>>39292659
Would you believe me if I linked you their posts in the archives? I'll be honest I don't really want to go digging for retarded anti posts but I will if it stops this back and forth

>> No.39292703

>>39292476
that was nice to see
>>39292642
if the japs are the big boogeyman you guys like to paint them as then they most likely already have whatever your trying to hide from them

>> No.39292709

>>39292696
streamlink

>> No.39292721

>>39292654
>so there's too few antis who give a shit to record/share everything, and/or any material that could come from it isn't as juicy as what's already out there.
But we know both of these are untrue and you can simply go to the 5ch threads to see it for yourself. They are autistic, dedicated, and numerous, but yet somehow they're still not leaked out quite a significant amount of information that I can assure you could be used to damage her if it was leaked(again, esp. out of context)

>> No.39292745

>>39292694
You think that's an ESL? You think he's sharing those with Cover?
>>39292696
yt-dlp, streamlink, minyami, ytarchive can probably do it.

>> No.39292765

>>39292703
>if the japs are the big boogeyman you guys like to paint them as then they most likely already have whatever your trying to hide from them
So far I've seen very few leaks and the ones that have happened failed to reach escape velocity but absolutely no archives of her casts have been leaked. None. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Zippo. Every time I meet somebody outside of here with an archive it's always somebody from the bunker. There's only 3 exceptions I can think of; the one risuna totsu I put up for 10 minutes, the 22 minute public cast that was interrupted by the police, and the one catbox link to the cast before that that was still visible in the bunker when it was breached.
And oddly enough, one of those I HAVE seen leaked elsewhere- and only that one(I won't say where, obviously). And yes, it was on a site with a Japanese user base. I know it was my archive too because it's the exact same file.

So forgive me but I just can't be as optimistic as you.

>> No.39292782

>>39292745
yt-dlp and ytarchive are the two tools other archivers I know use and they have never been able to provide me an archive for a twitcast they weren't awake for. Neither are awake right now so I might ask them about it when they log in but as of right now I'd like to at least try and see if it can actually work that way before I believe it.

>> No.39292791

>>39292709
>>39292745
Thanks

>> No.39292801

>>39292721
hey, if you're fine with rrats running wild and costing her support, then so be it. there's ways around this but you're apparently too brainlet to hammer out a solution.

>> No.39292838

>>39292782
ytarchive was specifically designed to handle scheduled streams without being around for them. not my fault you only know people who don't know how to use it properly. yt-dlp will grab any stream that's been archived if you feed it cookies.

>> No.39292870

>>39292721
>>39292765
If that were true then >>39292694 leaking shit would've already gotten to them. So which is it? That post alone means even your bunker stopped nothing.

>> No.39292969

>>39292782
I'm still figuring shit out with yt-dlp, but i got most of today's twitcast just by running the command in a loop via a simple bat file. No idea why the file was still a .part one with the beginning broken, but i'm getting there. Well i probably buy a raspi soon.

>> No.39293005

>>39292838
>ytarchive was specifically designed to handle scheduled streams without being around for them
Her twitcasts are never scheduled.
>yt-dlp, streamlink, minyami, ytarchive can probably do it.
One of the archivers I know responded to me and this was the convo(paraphrased):
>Have you looked into whether that tool can automate recording her twitcasts?
>Conceptually possible, but it would spam the twitcast servers with requests. It's possible with YouTube and scheduled streams. It doesn't hook into an twitcasting proprietary API that I'm aware, so to automate it you'd have to do something that polls the stream URL frequently. It ties server resources and it could be seen by as a DDOS by whatever protections they have in place. It could get your IP banned, for example. If it was scheduled like YT frames can be, it would be possible to do a better scheduler, but not for guerilla streams on Twitcast.

>> No.39293018

>>39292870
>That post alone means even your bunker stopped nothing.
That bunker was the first one, anon. We bailed as soon as it was leaked and that happened before any of her twitcasts did.

>> No.39293071

Tbh I think there should be SOMETHING done about rrats, even if we can’t agree about archives. There are even some normies who still believe the lie that she leaked stuff about her friends and betrayed the other holomems.

>> No.39293080

>>39293005
Not sure how strict twitcast is with requests, but i basically just did that for ~12 hours with a request roughly every 5 seconds and my ip isn't banned.

>> No.39293091

>>39293005
>Her twitcasts are never scheduled.
They don't have to be. It can be set to check for lives every 5 seconds. Once again, you don't know how to use it properly.
>blah blah blah
hence setting it to use a longer buffer between checks. something like 10 minutes won't get you banned. She also announces them via twitter.
>>39293018
Ok and? Your bunker didn't stop a leak. That doesn't mean no one else was doing the same thing much more quietly. Or isn't still.

>> No.39293097

>>39293071
I'm not sure what you can do about that. People will keep repeating that line until the end of time. Even if she said something contradicting it in her twitcasts, they would just call her a liar and continue peddling it.

>> No.39293109

>>39293097
We've already done this with Delta. The tl's are public. Her stream links are posted basically every thread. We quote the tl's to get antis to fuck off. Newfags come in and we explain the rrats are full of shit. They then start supporting her. This has happened like a thousand times by this point.

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>> No.39293131

>>39293091
>She also announces them via twitter.
Not all of them. How do you think people missed her very first twitcast?

>> No.39293136

>>39293091
>Your bunker didn't stop a leak
But it did stop leaks...none of her archives that we fully contained in the bunker have been leaked. Ones posted outside of it have been.

>> No.39293138

It tickles me that this ongoing lover's spat is probably happening because the original fandead thread was specifically newfag/EOP resistant.

>> No.39293143

>>39293080
I literally recorded all of delta's twitcasts by spamming twitcast for hours with multithreaded downloads that auto-restarted any time the connection was dropped. Never got banned.

>> No.39293154

>>39293109
What specific evidence or statements do you want to reveal that would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that she didn't doxx her friends?

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>> No.39293162

>>39293131
>the other streams don't matter, only this one outlier does!
>>39293136
that you know of. also doesn't mean anybody else isn't still sitting on them for later. maybe even somebody who doesn't use the thread at all.

>> No.39293183

>>39293154
oh gee idk
>>39284158
>>39284314
then there's what? kson following her, delta following her, the flare clip, the noel clip, the a-chan clip, the fubuki clip, the noel clip, the aki clip, her tweet about how rabbits are hardworking.

but hey, i'm sure none of that would convince a newfag.

>> No.39293202

>>39293162
>>the other streams don't matter, only this one outlier does!
It wasn't just one.
>maybe even somebody who doesn't use the thread at all.
I never said I only checked this thread, that would be buttfuck retarded. I already said I saw one of three leaks from the bunker on a JP userbase website already.

>> No.39293220

>>39293138
we do have 4 classes of fans right now.
poorfags
twitcastfags
youtube membershipfags
bothfags
there's also people who are filtered by twitcast, or who miss out due to timezones. doesn't matter that you're subbed on both if you miss out on every tweet/unarchived stream due to sleep, work, etc.

>> No.39293222

what are the chances of her releasing some original music? is that impossible now?

>> No.39293234

>>39293222
Don't expect anything this year atleast

>> No.39293252

>>39293183
That's fine, share that stuff if you see people peddling. But of course antis have deflections for every one, I've seen them myself. And a lot of people will simply judge it based on the 2/24 reactions and say stuff like, "they weren't crying so she must have done something really bad". And since we don't know the specifics, this can't be settled definitively.

>> No.39293255

Hey Deltabro, I just wanna say that despite being obstinate I know you're coming at this from a good place and I appreciate that, sorry if it feels like you're ramming your head against a brick wall here but it's been a really hard 2 months. Just wanted to say thanks for caring.

>> No.39293299

>>39293222
Zero. The releases she did in hololive felt like something she only did out of some perceived pressure.

>> No.39293308

>>39293202
>It wasn't just one.
So what? I just told you you can ping twitcast infinitely. >>39293143 So did >>39293080
You being autistic about her announcing streams on twitter or not does not disprove that you can continually ping to detect the streams. Like I said >>39293091 10 minutes will not get you banned, and at most you miss 9:59 of a stream. They don't have to be scheduled.
>I never said I only checked this thread, that would be buttfuck retarded. I already said I saw one of three leaks from the bunker on a JP userbase website already.
Alright, I'm going to spell this out for you as clearly as I possibly can. Because clearly, you are retarded. Just because someone is not leaking shit right now, does not mean they aren't archiving it all and decide to do so later. Your bunker didn't stop that before, and it can't stop that even if it was still in play. Someone does not have to be in your bunker, or this thread, or even in contact with 5ch, to be stockpiling stuff. They can turn around and decide to leak it at any time. They could have already done so, and it's just not made it's way around yet. I could start posting my archives on 5ch right now, and there's nothing you could do to stop me. I have no intention of doing that, but there's nothing you could do to stop me all the same.

>> No.39293350

I feel like one thing missed in this entire discussion is that mikeneko herself has asked her members to not leak her content, however naïve that may be.

>> No.39293362

>>39293252
Why are you so shortsighted? You are not trying to convince antis. They will not be convinced by anything. You are trying to convince newfags who would otherwise support her if they didn't hear "Rushia planned to Kyoani Cover" every time they see her name. You posting quotes in response to antis is to get them to fuck off, and until she says something about spending time with or talking to the others, you can't disprove that specific statement. But you can disprove any other rrat with anything she has said that's relevant to it.

Christ, it's like you people want to deflect, pivot, and scapegoat with any fucking excuse you can come up with to not have archives.

>> No.39293398

wait, I may have figured out some useful gatekeeping method. I'll update this thread if I figure it out.

>> No.39293412

>>39293350
Yeah just like how Rushia did, but this thread has a bunch of faggots from global who got to "know" her from leaked membership posts.

>> No.39293449

>>39293350
You can record them without leaking them.

>> No.39293469

>>39293255
Look, you guys have to make a choice. You can either be transparent (for validity), combat rrats, and win her support from casuals who are being misled by shitposters, or you can throw her to the wolves in favor of your super secret club or whatever. We've done this. It works. It gets her support she otherwise would not have. And while casuals are filthy fucking casuals, they do give her support, and help make her happy during streams. As shitty as they are, if you actually care about her, you should want her to have as much support as she can get. Especially right now when shit is bad. Casuals WILL disengage and drop her if they can't keep up on her situation. tl's and qrds make that easy even if they miss every single one of her streams. Which is easy to do because she deletes a bunch of stuff, there's timezone problems, there's problems with credit cards and twitcast, etc. These are all obstacles that are going to kill potential support, on top of the language barrier.

It's your decision, but it's ultimately going to effect things going forward. Delta has a very large, very loyal fanbase right now. She's streamed very irregularly since summer of last year, and has mostly spent time in voice chat on discord, and that has caused a drop. Fortunately most are still there. She is currently supporting her entire family off of what comes in from fanbox. Mike could end up that way if things go very, very bad.

>> No.39293483

>>39293071
People still use the term "bullying" and "stream overlapping" unironically as her major complaints when even in the original drama stream she was discussing it as a claim of workplace harassment and being lied about to her friends (purposeful stream overlapping is just a menhera unnecessary example on top of actual prior harassment)

>> No.39293555

Can anybody spoonfeed me what the tweets after the twitcast were? I fell asleep and missed a bunch it seems

>> No.39293567

>>39293555
>>39287066

>> No.39293575

>>39293555
>>39293567
To add on to this, seems like she's found a new place to live.

>> No.39293579

>>39293575
Yeah, my house

>> No.39293583

>>39293362
>But you can disprove any other rrat with anything she has said that's relevant to it.
Different anon, but the thing is she has never said anything relevant to any existing rrats whatsoever in any member stream. Member streams are her healing time, she doesn't talk about her problems that much. She has however, being clumsy with her word choice and due to the way she handles stuff being flustered, sometimes said things in weird ways that people like to arrange in a way that is detrimental to her. Eg: who's Rushia, not playing Apex, etc. See what good having those in the open has done to her?

If it's just transparency needed then short summaries should work fine. I feel bad for the ones who miss casts despite having membership, but I think the bigger discord keep archives, might as well get in there just for those. I don't particularly agree that antis are breathing down our neck to steal and spread stuff about her, but I'm just as resistant to just casually share member archives while we still get persistent schizos.

>> No.39293594

I'm gonna chime in since I was here in the Mike threads from the very beginning and never once joined any Bunker but still supported her via memberships, etc.
We really should take the Deltabros advice about at the very least providing TLs on thread links to at least combat anti-narratives. That right now is the most harmful thing to her and if yall can at least get along and agree to disagree on archives but at the very least agree on combating rrats then this thread can go even more smoothly for the next couple of weeks.

>> No.39293639

Honestly the fact that people are just now recently learning about the Rushia membership Miko festival post shows how overprotective fandeads are in regards to alot of the stupid shit Mike has had a tendency to say.

>> No.39293649

>>39293583
Different anon here. Regarding the rrats, most of the shit posted in the threads for the last few days doesn't even qualify as a rrat, but would it make sense to have some sort of semi-regular "rrat busting session"?
I'm aware that the regulars here are essentially all on the same page regarding the situation regarding her, but as >>39293469
says, casual fans can't keep pace with everything. Just a time where people who have doubts or just need something cleared up a bit could ask questions and the regulars could take their time to lay out why it's not true, or at the very least, point out all of the circumstantial evidence to disprove it.
I'm not at all suggesting that this is definitely a good idea or that it would solve everything. I don't even know what a casual fan visiting this thread would currently think of her, after all. But if anyone else has any ideas or anything, feel free to post them. It'll probably be a better idea than this anyways.

>> No.39293655

>>39293583
>she has never said anything relevant to any existing rrats whatsoever in any member stream.
There's definitely things in them you can use to disprove that retarded pregnancy rrat for example. And according to some anons she addressed the apex thing, so that kills a recent rrat too.

>> No.39293668

>>39293575
from my understanding she found a new place to live and was so excited about it that she wanted to stream outside talking about it(most likely on her walk back home or something?) but her signal was really bad or some shit. Is that about right?

>> No.39293672

>>39293583
>I think the bigger discord keep archives
Like I said before, point me at it and I'll start dumping EN tl's

>> No.39293704

"Neutrals" on /vt/ don't want to learn the truth, they just want to get updates of whatever bullshit that makes her look bad so they can mock her. They still believe that post about her not having money for an avatar despite it having "I saw it in a dream" written at the bottom and that she implied anonymously on 5ch that kson got fired for infidelity or something.
If you call the people who post that shit out they'll just tell you to seethe, cope and dilate.

>> No.39293706

>>39293579
Odd i don't remember posting this

>> No.39293713

>>39293649
>but would it make sense to have some sort of semi-regular "rrat busting session"?
It doesn't work that way. Casuals maybe read the first 5 posts then go to thread bottom to ask about X. You can always link back to it, but it works better if you engage them directly. It's tedious but you ensure they get the truth rather than misread something, even if you tried to spell it out clearly for them in the earlier post. "Reps" doesn't really work because they don't want to archive binge for an answer.

>> No.39293732

>>39293649
Which is why short rough summaries should be enough, or atleast provide something to talk about. If something needs clarification, it can be expanded on by other member anons to extend discussion.

>>39293655
>pregnancy rrat
Something she's denied since the beginning and recently again with the suing tweet. Notice how people still doubt her?
>apex thing
If I recall wasn't that during a public stream? Could be wrong, but even if it weren't then it would probably be something included in the summary.

>> No.39293745

>>39293668
The only thing you're missing is how cute her messages in chat where, but yea that's pretty much the gist of it.

>> No.39293750

>>39293713
Right, that would make sense. That being said, I don't think we are currently getting a lot of "genuine" questions here (I'm not counting the very obvious antis bait as questions here).
So is this a case that there needs to be more of a culture of asking questions to encourage that, or will it simply happen naturally as time passes and more "new" fans filter slowly into the threads?

>> No.39293785

>>39293362
Anon, I don't care about archives, TLs, etc., either way. It's not something I'm concerned about.
I just think you are underestimating the extent to which negative views of her by casuals and newfags stems from either verifiable information about the events that led to her termination, or wild speculation that can't be proven either way, rather than narratives that can be easily swatted down.
I'm certainly not discouraging your attempt to improve her reputation by refuting narratives, I'm just skeptical it's going to be enough, or the even most important part.

>> No.39293786

>>39293649
>people who have doubts
I have no idea how to do that, when my trust in her depends so much on her being herself. How do you compress spending thousands of hours with her and looking into everything she did up till now.

>> No.39293790

>>39293732
>Notice how people still doubt her?
Yes, antis. Not casuals. I guarantee you there are people who would still support her as Mike if they could get the truth, and there will newfags just getting into hololive who know nothing of her.
>even if it weren't then it would probably be something included in the summary.
the one downside there is that it can then be claimed that you (in the thread) are spinning some shit one way or the other. The Delta tl's are done by other people. They're posted on the discord, so it's out of our hands. But most people don't want to use the discord, so the archives became handy for that. They actually got started because the mods deleted tl's for streams she deleted. Understandable, but not in line with 4chan. Plus it's shitty to miss an important stream due to timezones, then find out it's deleted. You are subbed to her, so it's frustrating, especially when other timezones got to see it no problem. It's just frustrating.

>> No.39293802

>>39293745
The Delta thread had a Goslinganon who would quote all the cute and interesting excerpts from the tl's to the thread. I miss Goslinganon.

>> No.39293813

>>39293802
>やだやだやだやだやだやだ少しでも配信したい!!!!!!

>> No.39293825

>>39293786
In all honesty anon, to sum that up would be the classic phrase "follow the gachikoi". Whenever I myself am concerned about something, I look to the gachikoi and when I see them in their unwavering support for her, it becomes clear to me that there is something in this girl that must inspire this loyalty. Obviously this is difficult to convey, but that is what lies at the heart of what you've just said and that gachikoi spirit is vital for the health of these threads going forward.

>> No.39293830

>>39293750
Right now you being on /jp/ is a huge debuff to that. If you had a continual thread on /vt/ like Delta did/does, people would continually see it and drop in to ask stuff. Here, people almost exclusively come in to shitpost, other than the few sympathy posts we've gotten. It's a hop from /vt/ to /jp/, and the curious don't necessarily know that this is where you've gone. You could fight rrats in the anti threads on /vt/ though. That'll spread the positive stuff. And yes, newfags will come in time.

>> No.39293867

>>39293790
>Not casuals
Then we don't need to persuade those too hard do we?
>that you (in the thread) are spinning some shit one way or the other
True, plus I do admit to either forget or miss stuff if the cast is too long, or misunderstand something due to inadequate Japanese. But that's what the other member anons can help with, by interjecting with the correct info. And again, I do feel bad for members who miss her streams, but if the discord has them then they might as well bite the bullet and try to get in for them, something I might have to do since I have a feeling I'm going to miss one soon.

>> No.39293872

>>39287788
I’m almost 100% certain that dude is gay and she is just a fag hag

>> No.39293876

>>39293785
>I just think you are underestimating the extent to which negative views of her by casuals and newfags stems from either verifiable information about the events that led to her termination
Except that we know it wasn't that bad because the others have said how they miss her, they're sad she's gone, etc. >>39293183
It's also basically been summarized how things went down. She's menhera, she panicked, they almost surely wouldn't let her clear things up the way she wanted. Then there's the notice on the 14th, that basically outright states that the holos have bfs, so naturally everyone takes that as confirmation she's with mafu. Most people don't even know that she's Bipolar because the fandead guarded that so closely. Every single time I've posted that I've gotten replies from people saying they had no idea. That information provides context to her actions and allows you to understand why she made the choices she did. Understanding that allows you to have sympathy for her. Having sympathy for her allows people to realize she's not the devil they've been hearing about, and that the mistakes probably are not as bad as they're assuming.
>or wild speculation that can't be proven either way
Apex was wild speculation but that was swatted down.

>> No.39293895

Wait how are you guys now at a point where apparently everything has been explained sufficiently and you have all the info about everything?

>> No.39293914

>>39293830
I know /vt/ is very slack in regards to this, but technically everything she's done since the 24th of February should be off topic for that board since it all pertains to a non-vtuber (I'm aware that they barely follow this rule, of course). Naturally, if/when she gets a live2d, there may be a general for her on that board too, but any general for her gets banned there until she gets the live2d.
I actually haven't even been on /vt/ much due to being sick of it entirely, either. Anyways, thanks for the info, Deltabro. It's definitely given me something to think over.

>> No.39293920

>>39293895
We don't though?

>> No.39293923

>>39293920
Well that's what it looks like since it seems like you believe you can prove all these """rrats""" wrong.

>> No.39293925

>>39293867
>Then we don't need to persuade those too hard do we?
No, but you do still have 4 classes of fan >>39293220
and tl's or qrd's are needed for those too. another thing is that anyone can spread the message.
>plus I do admit to either forget or miss stuff if the cast is too long
Yeah out tl's are timestamped and everything, take a look. https://litter.catbox.moe/kp3owr.rar
>but if the discord has them
That's 2 times this thread it's been mentioned and I'm still waiting for a point to it.

>> No.39293927

>>39293876
I agree with most of what you said, and it's fine to tell people this, but plenty of people can have all that same information and still dislike her, especially in somewhere as wild and stupid as /vt/.
I do think it's possible to rehabilitate her image, but it's not just a matter of rrat-busting, but also reframing the issue, emphasizing the positive and, most of all, time.

>> No.39293930

>>39293876
>Then there's the notice on the 14th, that basically outright states that the holos have bfs
That's not what it said at all.

>> No.39293944

>>39293914
Yeah /vt/ is a problem, but if you want to organically grow the positive stuff right now, dropping in those anti threads is all you can do. And we all did our time in those. Some advice, it's almost not worth hopping into a thread that's 50+ posts. People will read the early ones and never see you pointing out the truth. You've gotta get there early. Helps if there's a group of you.

>> No.39293957

>>39293923
That's just the deltabro assuming providing the archives are enough to prove everything I think.

>>39293925
I don't see how having a short summary available disagrees with that first point. And timestamps are nice and all, but hard to know whether the summaries wouldn't be enough before trying yeah?
And I wish I knew where the discord was too.

>> No.39293973

>>39293927
Actually I would say it's work most of all. In theory you guys could have been busting some of them for a while now. That info about her being bipolar (legitimately, on meds and everything), really has gotten me a lot of mileage towards changing people's view of the whole thing.
>>39293930
Their notice amounted to "we don't get involved in the personal lives of our talents" which is a pivot to dodge the question. For anyone who was not outright denying that she was with mafu, this seemed like an indirect admission that she was. I don't know if you were in threads at the time, but that's how it was received.

>> No.39293988

>>39293876
>>39293973
Notice how that bipolar thing was already mentioned since her public valentine stream. Hardly a guarded secret.

>> No.39293994

>>39293944
Right. Well anon, the very least I can do over the weekend is at least try that advice on /vt/ if I'm available. It'll definitely be stressful but I suppose it's better than nothing. And hell, if I receive even one positive response there, that might make a difference for her. There's so very little that I can do for this girl

>> No.39293998

>>39293973
>which is a pivot to dodge the question
No. It is to say it's not up to them what the talents do in their private lives. Why is that so difficult to understand? What were they supposed to say? Is Cover also supposed to also address Matsuri going to the host club?
Does the statement now mean that all the remaining holos have boyfriends?

>> No.39294002

>>39293957
>That's just the deltabro assuming providing the archives are enough to prove everything I think.
Not everything, but any little bit helps. It's better than letting her image continue to be tarnished till nobody remembers any good about it. The spread of rrats is like a cancer, and the longer it's allowed to fester the harder it is to remove. Chipping away at it even a little is better than nothing.
>I don't see how having a short summary available disagrees with that first point.
Wasn't trying to. Thought you were addressing the antis with that part.
>And timestamps are nice and all, but hard to know whether the summaries wouldn't be enough before trying yeah?
Sure. Just the main advantage to the independent tl's is that anyone can grab them and you guys can't manipulate them. Timestamps means nobody gets confused as to which part of the stream it was should they get anal about it.
>>39293988
It was before. When I heard about it, the poster even said the fandead were keeping it on the dl. Maybe that wasn't accurate? But everyone I've mentioned it to hadn't heard about it either.

>> No.39294031

>>39293998
You're not understanding. What they actually said means nothing to antis, and anyone who's being led by them probably doesn't even remember the exact wording of the statement. They maybe never even read it. It was perceived as being an indirect admission to it, in every thread I was in, and that's kind of all that mattered. Now you can go and remind them that it didn't actually say that, but that doesn't change how many took it.

>> No.39294040

>>39293998
I mean this is the same company who threatened to sue each and every anti who called Ollie ugly. That’s not any of their business either. The extreme hands off “none of our business” approach was taken by some as an admission that she and the other holos had boyfriends.

>> No.39294041

>>39294002
>But everyone I've mentioned it to hadn't heard about it either.
I think the main problem there isn't people guarding secrets, but people getting sick of dealing with antis (both here and Twitter) that none were around anymore. Remember, the original regular ip count was just around >20, and besides during those times the anti spam was so bad you'd never be able to make conversation let alone persuade newfags.

>> No.39294072

I love mikeneko

>> No.39294084

One sort of relevant bit from Delta
>I like vtubers and i do keep watching them
>but like...
>I wish the economy was nicer
>its not just harsh
>its really rough
>I cant watch the chat of the vtubers i like because its so bad
>For someone like me, its like ah it makes sense because of my past and such but
>Seeing vtubers who get harassed for doing nothing wrong?
>i cant stand that
>but i can say this now
>You cant act how you want in that position
>You're not allowed to show weakness
>no matter what you're being said
>you have to just take it
>I realized i didnt have the mentality to do that
>if i did something bad
>i want to apologize
>but they didnt let me
>so i was like mmm...
>you have to just take it till its over

>> No.39294105

>>39294031
You just said it was an outright admission that holos have boyfriends. That's YOUR perception, not the antis or anyone elses.

>>39294040
Ollie was being called a MAN and not just as an insult, but the old "all vtubers are men with voice changers" way.
Someone having a boyfriend isn't an objectively bad thing and as a company they don't know or care if anyone has one.
Why are you comparing these completely different situations like they're one and the same?

>> No.39294126

>>39294084
>but they didnt let me
But they did let her, and it was for the worse. Did she somehow forget the whole stream before the suspension?

>> No.39294278

>>39294105
>You just said it was an outright admission that holos have boyfriends. That's YOUR perception, not the antis or anyone elses.
Are you ESL?
>>39293876
>Then there's the notice on the 14th, that basically outright states that the holos have bfs
>>39293973 (clarification)
>>39294031 (double clarification)
>>39294040 (agreement from third party)

>> No.39294296

>>39294126
She wanted to address more. They didn't even want her to bring up her exboyfriend (the "person she's no longer involved with") or the phone calls to her house but she did anyway.

>> No.39294300

>>39294278
So you're now saying that
>basically outright states that the holos have bfs
was a needlessly exaggerated statement that doesn't actually reflect your own views at all?

>> No.39294307

>>39294296
This claim that she was somehow blocked from addressing more doesn't really work when she did so anyways.

>> No.39294319

>>39294300
Anon, I'm not going to continue this with you. You're either ESL or autistic.
>>39293973
>I don't know if you were in threads at the time, but that's how it was received.
>>39294031
>It was perceived as being an indirect admission to it, in every thread I was in, and that's kind of all that mattered.
>>39294040
>The extreme hands off “none of our business” approach was taken by some as an admission that she and the other holos had boyfriends.

Take your "ackchyually" and be done with it.

>> No.39294332

>>39294307
You're >>39294300 aren't you?
She wanted to say more than that, but didn't. They forbid her from saying any of it at all, but she addressed what was most pressing, most relevant, and what she could most easily get away with. She did not bring up Chitose, or her tweets as Delta.

>> No.39294333

I'm kinda glad Mike wasn't able to do her outside twitcast. Can't imagine how yab things would have gotten if she accidentally doxxed her new location

>> No.39294336

>>39294319
You said that the statement "outright states that the holos have bfs" and not that it's just how people perceived it.

>> No.39294341

>>39294333
>if she accidentally doxxed her new location
could she have?

>> No.39294345
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39294345

>> No.39294353

>>39294332
>you did this this I don't like didn't you
What's with the reddit attitude? Does that somehow make me wrong automatically?
>They forbid her from saying any of it at all
Then how did she bring up her ex bf and the phone calls when she was forbidden from doing so?

>> No.39294578

>>39293973
A company forbidding their employees from having love relationships outside of work has to be illegal in every civilized place on earth. Cover obviously has to say that because they wanted to wash their hands on the issue. All they did was to throw the mess to each talent; they didn’t confirm or deny anything.
In the end Cover cares about themselves and the rest is up to the talents and honestly that’s ok with me as in the end I’m trusting the talent, not the company.
Hololive has talents who want to be idols and live the idol culture like Kanata and other talents who don’t want that like many examples we know that I won’t mention to not risk spraying shit on them.

>> No.39294609

>>39294578
You could just name AZKi who's now hololive proper, but will probably never do content like the others and nobody expects that from her anyways and I don't see anyone really hating her for it either.

>> No.39294677

>>39294609
I honestly forgot about her. I was thinking about more mainstream hololive members.
And I agree with you. To me the real issue is lying. If you lie to exploit gachis to get revenue out of that then you’re a piece of shit. If you’re crystal clear about what you are and what you want to provide then if there’s a misunderstanding it’s not really your fault.
That’s why while Rushi having a bf would be egregious, AZKi’s case is completely different.

>> No.39294799

>>39293138
Yeah, but EOP played a big role in supporting her now.
I am actually a twitcast member and a YT member but I can't read JP so I still rely on TLs here.

>> No.39295308

>>39294353
Oh my gosh she wanted to apologize for the tweets and what she said about Chitose. Cover was like fuck no that has nothing to do with Aloe just apologize for the stream you forgot to delete.

It should be noted that Delta is the kind of person to actively seek out Chitose over 1 year later and beg forgiveness from her for what was said also that quote is from last year when she was deep in the worst if her post graduation arc.

>> No.39295334

>>39295308
>Cover was like fuck no that has nothing to do with Aloe just apologize for the stream you forgot to delete.
And she still mentioned the boyfriend and the phone calls, so you can't say she was actually stopped from saying anything when she said something she wasn't supposed to say.

>> No.39295371

>>39295334
Nah everything she said was approved.

>> No.39295420
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39295420

Started evening of 3/30 burger time. I'm pretty confident in my hiragana now but maybe they'll have turned back into rune tomorrow morning, who knows, I did speedrun the muddied consonants and combinations today on my day off. My reaction time is obviously not great but I can pretty reliably identify them even if it takes a couple seconds and I've had fun sounding out words. I was hoping to have all the kana done in a week but I guess there's still a couple days left.

>> No.39295423

>>39295371
Then why did the other guy who claimed to know about her say otherwise?
I always feel like I never hear anything worthwhile about Delta/Aloe because every single "fan" has their own version of everything. She wasn't even in holo for any considerable amount of time anyways so her opinions mean very little.

>> No.39295504

>>39295371
Stop replying to him, he doesn't understand english. He's just some autistic anti who will weasel and remove words to strawman you. Probably the same guy who was shitting himself earlier over streams being tweeted or not, as if that some how invalidated you being able to ping for them. It was the same autism there. To him being forbidden to do something and then doing it anyway means you were never forbidden to do it. Kind of like how I'm now forbidding him from replying to this post or his mother will die in her sleep tonight, but he'll do it anyway. Some how that means I never forbade him to do it. Really joggins the noggin.

>> No.39295512

>>39295504
>waahhh don't diagree with me!
Why are you like this?

>> No.39295516

>>39293299
yeah I kinda felt that but the songs were really good and her singing voice is cute

>> No.39295525

Everyone that posts things I don't like is anti schizo shitposter from /jp/vt/hlg/

>> No.39295527

>>39295423
>I always feel like I never hear anything worthwhile about Delta/Aloe because every single "fan" has their own version of everything.
Seconded on that. It's weird to hear stuff like "It worked for Delta" because every time she comes up in context there's a flurry of contradictory narratives including from people ostensibly on her side.

>> No.39295529

See there he goes. Strawmans, ignores the point, doesn't even address what you actually said. Replaces it with some chuuni shit he made up in his head too

>> No.39295535

>>39295529
You said literally nothing, retard.

>> No.39295546

>>39295527
>there's a flurry of contradictory narratives including from people ostensibly on her side.
Like what?

>> No.39295560

Strange. I didn't realize >>39295504 was a blank post. I see text there. Hmm. I guess he's blind too. Sad.

>> No.39295569

What in the actual FUCK
I >>39293398 leave to go fuck around and brainstorm autistic bullshit with being 270 posts and come back 4 hours later to 80 posts of mucho fucking texto and I haven't read any of it yet but what the fuck did you guys do while I was gone jesus christ

Uh, I figure that before I read everything I may as well say that I may have figured out a few ways of vetting people both automatically, anonymously, and in a way that doesn't filter poorfags. It would require some level of activity on broadcasts and social media, though. Realistically speaking that's something any anti could break into by just falseflagging, but the assumption would be that [Some Pre-Defined Amount of Engagement(TBD)] of positive engagement with her content and social media presence for [Some Predefined Amount of Time(TBD)] with [Some Predefined Maximum and Minimum Interval Limits(TBD)] between engagements would end up filtering effectively almost anyone who wasn't trying to access them in good faith.

Honestly though, as I typed that, it dawned on me that that may be too fucking autistic and I overthought it. I'll likely just end up writing a bot looking for people who, like, commented on at least two public Twitcasts while they were live. It'd require people's Twitcast accounts be hooked up to their Twitter but I can rig the bot with open source software to be automatic and obfuscate all info coming in so that people can be confident that nobody will actually know the info they put in.

>> No.39295587

>>39295560
You cry about your "points" not being addressed, but you made no points.
Want me to address something? You lumping everyone you disagree with as one person.
I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about with "streaming being tweeted" but you're SO CONFIDENT I'm totally the same person, because of course every single person that has ever disagreed with you HAS TO BE the same person. That's the easiest way for a fucking retarded baby like you to deal with issues. Just believe that only one person ever could disagree with you.

>> No.39295708

>the cover schizo is still trying to railroad the thread into talking about how cover bad
Cover did nothing wrong, accept the truth into your heart and he'll have no power over you

>> No.39295745

>>39295587
Does >>39295504 have text or not? Yes or no.

>> No.39295827

>>39295745
Yeah, a lot of text that says nothing. You going to cry now?

>> No.39295831

>>39295708
I’m not the Cover schizo… but to say Cover did “nothing wrong” is quite a big stretch.

>> No.39295842

Arguing with antis is better than this because it's at least ostensibly about her.

>> No.39295848

I'm not the Cover schizo but actually everything is Cover's fault and they should get sued.

>> No.39295857

>>39295831
No it's not and the vague tweets about you not liking her are proof

>> No.39295861

>>39295827
So you're now saying that
>>39295535 >You said literally nothing, retard.
was a needlessly exaggerated statement that doesn't actually reflect your own views at all?
>>39294300

>> No.39295870

>>39295848
Based

>> No.39295878

>>39295857
…what?

>> No.39295887

>>39295848
>I'm not the Cover schizo
But that's exactly what the Cover schizo would say!
>but actually everything is Cover's fault and they should get sued.
But that's exactly what the Cover schizo would say!

>> No.39295906

Figured out a way to mind fuck with antis twitter. If you reply to one with a locked account, they can see the reply count go up but can't see the reply itself. Time to go annoy a few.

>> No.39295913

>>39295906
kek hadn't thought of that. can they reply at all?

>> No.39295914

>>39295861
You did say literally nothing. Your autistic focus on IS THER TEXT XDDDDD is so fucking pathetic and really goes to show how absolutely retarded you are. Your shitty post is nothing but a jumble of words.
Are you sure you're not projecting when going on about your hate for the spooky ESLs?

>> No.39295929

>>39295914
So you agree that there's text there...but somehow the text is "literally nothing." Yeah, you're just a weasel who doesn't understand the meaning of english words. Try reading a dictionary and get back to me.

>> No.39295930

>>39295906
There's a better method than this, quote-tweet them. There's always less QTs than replies and people notice when they get QTed by a locked account.

>> No.39295941

>>39295930
shouldn't they get notifications either way?

>> No.39295943

>>39295913
Nope, they won't get notifications and stuff either. So it'll just look like they suddenly have a 100 new replies and see nothing. Need to reply to the original tweet repeatedly and not reply to your own tweet though

>> No.39295956

>>39295929
You wrote a lot and said nothing.
You also claimed that Cover's statement outright stated that holos have bfs. I did not ignore any words to change the meaning of what you said.
Why do you go this far to lie about what Cover did?

>> No.39295958

>>39295930
You can only QT once though, but doing that + 100 new replies should be funny

>> No.39295964

>>39295941
They don't get notifications for either. But private accounts QTs get noticed because on the majority of posts don't get any.

>> No.39295978

>>39295943
i wonder if there's a way to get them to get notifications. maybe if you spammed it during the hours antis sleep and then set your account to private after? i don't use twitter much so i don't know the specifics of how it works

>> No.39296000

I don't know what outright means but I know you're ESL.

>> No.39296004

>>39295878
>I want to tell you guys things but I can't and am afraid you won't like me
Think EOP think

>> No.39296015

>>39295978
Would probably work, but you're relying on them not checking right at that moment and get found out though. Also spam prevention kicks in after a certain point apparently, kek

>> No.39296019

>>39296000
IQ on the low side.

>> No.39296025

>>39296019
if IQ isn't real then how do we breathe?

>> No.39296079 [DELETED] 

>>39293988
>Hardly a guarded secret
Just chiming in to say it's not a "guarded secret" anymore because it's not a secret.
Her diagnosis by a doctor secret in November was a guarded secret, and that was kept secret the entire drama, until she said it publicly herself.

>> No.39296092

>>39296079
It's been her location for what, a month now?

>> No.39296116

>>39293988
>Hardly a guarded secret
It's not a secret anymore since she publicly addressed it. It was a secret for English speakers from November until the end of February, since she only mentioned it a one hour dleted tweet and fandeads here kept it secret. Until she publicly said it on stream, it was a guarded secret in the west.

>> No.39296151

>>39296015
And my locked account got suspended, guess slow burn it is the next time then

>> No.39296187

>>39296151
would be better to have 10 people do 10 each. in theory you could reply to each other

>> No.39296228

>>39296151
The way you do this correctly is publicly QT them in a way that's funny or compelling enough that more people like it than the original post. That requires people wanting to read your posts to begin with. If it's just a harassment account it should get suspended, that isn't helping.

>> No.39296251

>>39296187
Replying to others or yourself doesn't add to the original reply count unfortunately.

>> No.39296419

I missed her last twitcast. Did something happen?

>> No.39296445

>>39296419
Nope, she tried to stream outside but no sound could be heard so it just ended with nothing happening

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>Don't bother the people I follow
Bio changed to that, and the number of people she follows goes down from 17 to 12. I'm gonna guess you can figure out what happened.

>> No.39296545

Cute comic

>> No.39296553

Alright faggots analyze.

>> No.39296557

>>39296493
who were the 5?

>> No.39296561

>>39296481
the first youtube link was broken for me, it took me to a page that just said it was dead. it wasn't even a page on youtube which was slightly confusing

>> No.39296565

I wish I could read moon runes

>> No.39296608

>>39296561
She's using a link shortener that isn't working too well. The twitcast link has been broken for several days too

>> No.39296618

I want Mikeneko to drug me and then steal my keys.

>> No.39296687

>>39295906
>>39295913
>>39295930
>>39295941
>>39295943
>>39295958
>>39295964
Make two accounts, one locked and one not. Make the not locked one not open to DMs and then follow the locked one with the not locked one.
Then quote RT them with the locked one. Then use the unlocked one to quote RT the locked ones post. And say whatever you can think of to worry them most about the potential contents of the quote RT

>> No.39296725

>>39296618
Based

>> No.39296730

>>39296618
I'll gladly give her the keys and then eat the stuff anyway

>> No.39296732

>>39296687
Doesn't work that way.

>> No.39296768

I want her to drug me, steal my keys and tie me up so she can have her way with me only to get stabbed to death in the end by her. So fucking hot bros

>> No.39296771

>>39296618
I had this happen to me but it wasn't Mikeneko it was Mike Nahko a half native American who I'm pretty sure is the one who stole my Rolex.

>> No.39296778

I want to see her doing RFA stream with a cam showing her body getting sweaty.

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>> No.39297031

Thread culture's fragmented. The saviourfag and osmosis-parasocial EOPs are drifting away and dissipating the hugbox, the gachikoi won't loveschizopost for us, wifeposting is over, and there's a pair of honest-to-god MASSfags trying to tell everyone what to do. Deal with this.

>> No.39297047

>>39297031
wifeposting will never be over faggot.

>> No.39297071

>>39297047
You didn't wifepost and called me a faggot. R.I.P.

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Wifeposter will come back...he always comes back to save the thread.
And I'll never stop being a saviorfag for this woman who i've grown to love passionately overtime

>> No.39297213

>>39297031
We need the TLs so people who are at work or not plugged in 24/7 or who don't know JP/subbed can stay engaged so we retain them.
Having casuals and normies on our side is good because they'll be the next hardcore fans and also they're the ones that will mindlessly repeat memes and "facts" to people -- might as well be our memes and our facts.
Not sure what massfags are though. Too casual.

>> No.39297214

One dumb misinterpretation that always bothered me was the "she spilled everything to kore kore 2 hours after the stream!"
The reality was she made a brief phone call, the contents of which korekore in his usual bullshit manner of speaking conflated the brief panicked phone call with the actual LINE conversation they had where everything of any meaningful import to the situation happened.
The line conversation was at 8 hours afterwards. It's very likely that the phone call itself was nowhere near the only one she made nor the first one. The girl in all likelihood was scrolling through her entire list of contacts top to bottom freaking out to anybody who would listen. Given the circumstances and the nature of the controversy, it was likely that korekore was literally the only one who sounded receptive to her at the time. Not because he's a good person, but because he is a sleezeball who likes to put on his usual psuedo-friendly facade during any and all interactions.

She almost certainly spent that 6 hour interim between the call and reaching out to him again trying desperately to find any sort of help before reaching out to him. By this point in time she was already talking about how her online activity on her accounts was restricted.
>but wait, what about her suicide bait tweet!
An interesting point is that despite her panicked, debilitated state, the first and only tweet she makes about it is -days- later.
Doezn't that seem strange to you? The suspicion normally is that she had her account access suspended after her manic tweet about her awful state, but if you actually think about it, this is genuinely based on assumption and nothing else. It is equally plausible that within that 6 hour timeframe she had made enpugh of a fuss that her account access was stripped then and there so as to try and shut her up as a way to deal with her...
Her Discord, and her Twitter. And yes, ber roommate Twitter too
>they can't do that
They can if she willingly handed over her info(she did) and potentially gave them verbal permission to manipulate those accounts, presumably trusting them to act in her interest. Instead of being locked out.

Given the incredibly distant relationship between mafu2 and her, there's in fact a distinct possibility that after making a new LINE she quite literally didn't even have any methods left to even contact mafu2 to try and co-ordinate a statement. In such a scenario she just had the door slammed shut in her face after making a leap of faith upon the request of an entity that she already mistruated.

Cut off from coordinating with mafu2 for a statement(notice how his original statement didn't reference any input from her or anything like that- it was fairly clear cut that his statement was something of his own, not something he workshopped with her) nor recirving any help from the company and in fact having them be antagonistic and cut her off from making any statement on her own, she had very few places to turn after that. The idea that korekore was her first option or her preferred option to handle this stems from a series of assumptions that multiple elements throughout the controversy do not support.

I would wager that judging by the nature of her desperate tweet and its rapid deletion, it's likely that it was at that point that she managed to somehow regain access, at least to Rushia, and likely

>> No.39297260

>>39297214
likely was given that permission back out of a corporate desire for her to make a statement and almost certainly her continued pleading for access. By this point her mental health had deteriorated to the point where she was barely lucid let alone in the right frame of mind to make a corporate statement, nor did she want to. So she tried desperately to not refer to events that'd get her sued if she was explicit and did the only thing she thought she could do, which was literally beg for her life and ask them to stop spreading these awful rumors about her.

At which point her account access was taken away, and an employee made the next tweet(we noticed how that one wasn't made from an iphone immediately)

Doesn't it seem like an awful coincidence that the first time she reaches out with that twitcast is to make a pleading goodbye? Almost as if she was told she was fired, and then and only then was given at least her personal account access back.

>> No.39297272

>>39297031
>and there's a pair of honest-to-god MASSfags trying to tell everyone what to do
What does supporting Delta on 4chan have to do with that discord group? You do realize we rip the translations and post them here because all of us hate the discord, right?

>> No.39297273

>>39297214
>Doezn't
He's either nip or really good at LARPing.

>> No.39297296

>>39297213
>Not sure what massfags are though.
It was an EOP support group for Aloe during her suspension/graduation that operated through discord. They really didn't accomplish anything except sending a bunch of fan messages. I don't know what else they did that gives them a bad rap, besides just being reddit cancer.

>> No.39297297

>>39296618
I legitimately can't remember if I wrote this or not, I'm becoming even worse of a schizophrenic than I usually am

>> No.39297305

>>39297260
And such an antagonistic move by the company after likely reaching out to them first could potentially mean that she also ended up so.ehow interacting with the person she saw as her harasser.
Whether they did or didn't, given the outcome, her panicked state, and her pre-existing perceptions of that person, all it would've taken at that point was a few careless statements by that person for her mania to latch on and start believing that they were somehow on some level responsible for what she percieved as the company betraying her.

Which would explain why she talked as she did to kore then, because her belief in such a betrayal would be absolutely raw and fresh on her mind right at the very worst moment of her entire life.

Notice how she never spoke like that in any future communications. It was only that night. The very peak of it all. When she was talking carelessly and casually about killing herself.

>> No.39297334

>>39297273
have you ever seen an english keyboard before? fat thumbs

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>> No.39297349

>>39297214
There's two stories going on here. Contacting kore2 that time could have been forgiven. There was also a conflict with a senpai and management (which she had also leaked about) and this was the straw that broke the camel's back.

>> No.39297363

didn't she say there were untrue rumors about her doing the host club stuff like matsuri? or was she just talking about matsuri?

>> No.39297369

>>39297334
Used one my whole life and never made that mistake. S typos to A or D. You'd have to be drunk to hit Z but they're close in nip.

>> No.39297384

>>39297363
she was alluding to an employee who were spreading rumors about her being a host freak (or someone who go to host clubs often), she told the management about it, and they promised they'll fire her, but the next day the person was still there. might be related to Matsuri's picture, but we dunno. the rumor spreader was rumored to be one of the managers since no way they'll fire Matsuri over that if it was her.

>> No.39297400

>>39297363
As a side she's mentioned repeatedly how she could never handle those places due to being weak to booze and have terrible asthma attacks.

>> No.39297409

>>39297384
Speaking of matsuri she is still not following mike but is mutuals with sakana, her dedicated fanartist. Weeks after she unfollowed mike. It seems she's not a friend but a supporter.

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This thread is on page 6 and Mikenyan showed signs of being troubled today. We've talked our asses off long enough. It's likely that there'll be a stream today and right now what she needs most is a sense of optimism.
Go tweet at my wife and tell her that you love her and want to be bound in chains at her whim and be her love slave for the rest of eternity, and let this thread be the gachikoi haven it's meant to be for the rest of the life of this thread.
We can metapost later for now let's love this beautiful wonderful precious source of hope and light and cherish her because we were within an inch of losing her and she's still hurting every single fucking day.

I love her more than anything else in this god forsaken world and she is the person who made me feel like there was a point to waking up tomorrow and I have to do everything I can to repay her.

I will be the boyfriend you deserve
ずっと愛してる

>> No.39297590

>>39297369
k well i constantly typo shit on mobile. not everyone is you, and 2 typos does not mean esl

>> No.39297603

>>39297384
could that be the exact same as the "bullying" incident? there are some common threads

>> No.39297811

>>39297544
Based anon.
I too will refrain from shitting up the thread with timeloops. Just going to send some love to Minyan

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>playing gundam battle operation 2
>custom room's host name
>"MIKENEKO-REE

Fuck it gonna bring out my Rushia colored dagdoll see if the host notices, I've seen this guy before, I'm sure they're just a fan

>> No.39297952

>>39297945
Kek, report with results

>> No.39297968

>>39297952
Will do, but the lobby is slow to fill, outside normal peak jp hours and other rooms are active since its a grinding room

Wouldn't mind making one in direct mikeneko colors but I got a shit eye for these things

>> No.39298021

>>39297031
>the gachikoi won't loveschizopost for us
I do this on twitter where she can actually see this anon

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>>39297952
Managed to get on opposite sides of the grind room but I suspect he's using a bot program to run the room because of the repeating movements, if he's actually watching he would have seen me on his kill cam first game, second he just sat there at base so no intent to "return the favor" despite targeting him just for attention

Oh well, most vtuber named players in this have been shit one way or another and I've only ever seen this guy running grind rooms, he also just killed the room after 3 games but since he didn't start another maybe they're done for the day or they've blocked me and restarted the room

Forgive the layout of colors it was made on a whim and thus cringey as can be, the day I do a mikeneko themed one I want to make something decent

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>> No.39298157

>>39298102
what even are Mikenekos colors

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>> No.39298172

>>39298157
Exactly why I'm hesitant, I'll wait until she either gets a vtuber model or I cave in to the fan art color patterns I'm seeing like >>39298155 which is lovely btw

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>> No.39298482

Insta story, flowers

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>> No.39298526

Just curious if anyone has any idea on the CCV for the Pokemon member stream? Need to know how our precious girl is being supported

>> No.39298542

>>39298526
1.9k likes so somewhere around those numbers

>> No.39298562

>>39298542
Isn't they ridiculously high for a guerilla member stream considering she's an indie with no live2d

>> No.39298612

>>39298562
Yes but this is the first month. Hopefully she continues to grow throughout the year

>> No.39298628

>>39298542
her splatoon member stream had 5.8k likes

>> No.39299003

>>39297214
>misinterpretation
There's no misinterpretation. She was talking with him 2 hours after the stream against the advice of her manager.

>> No.39299187

>>39298628
That one had a public waiting room

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>> No.39299500

>>39298628
The dislike extension is now unreliable

>> No.39299504

>>39296116
Been thinking about it, and actually not really no. Pretty sure it's been discussed several times in fandead threads, and it's not like the archives were hidden in the past either. Again, I suspect it's less "kept secret" and more a "nobody who knew was here anymore" thing. Which is unfortunate, but you could hardly blame them.

>> No.39299590

>>39299504
As a newer Fandead who was out of the loop at the time, from my memories of the threads, it was alluded to a few times that she had been diagnosed with something "similar to depression", but I don't recall anyone specifically calling it bipolar disorder. That's only my recollection though

>> No.39299718

>>39299590
That's mostly because she used a different word for it and not 鬱, Google translate gave motor nerve disorder or something, and I remember someone saying not to take the translation seriously when I thought it could've been the same as what Korone had. The use of 鬱 and the related word for bipolar disorder was fairly recent I think.

>> No.39299761

>>39299718
Yup, that was one of my two arguments for why I suggested it might not be bipolar at the time. The other one was just that at that point there was no indication of it being a reoccuring thing and manic states do happen to otherwise nominally healthy people occasionally when in extremely stressful situations(or drugs)

Truth be told, I have bipolar, and on some level I think I was just hoping that she didn't because I didn't want it to be the case, since I know how unpleasant it is.

>> No.39299807

It’s funny I never really followed her and still don’t but I come to this thread just to in the hopes she’s doing well away from cover and corporate vtubing

>> No.39299824

>>39299761
Yeah. Hopefully you can throw some support her way that only you and other people with bipolar disorder can, since there's sure to be stuff that everyone else will have difficulty understanding.

>> No.39300503

>>39299807
well anyone that's a hololive anti would do that considering her success is a blow against cover

>> No.39300661

Two new follows
https://twitter.com/_mky_mky
https://twitter.com/comyamato0515

>> No.39300723

>>39300661
More fuckboys...

>> No.39300736

hope she does some asmr

>> No.39300780

hope she's happy

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>>39300503
You don't necessarily need to be a hololive anti to want to see a former vtuber rise again after falling hard.

>> No.39301340

>>39300723
Well if she wants to fuck them I'm not complaining...

>> No.39301437

>>39300503
I’m not really a Hololive anti I just like to see people bounce back and it would be a good sign for anyone else who might feel they want to jump ship

>> No.39301668

>>39301437
amen brother, I feel the same way. This is why I want her to succeed so badly. To prove that someone can pick themselves up after hitting rock bottom

>> No.39301842

>>39298102
what MS is that?

>> No.39301938

>>39301437
>>39301668
Thank you for supporting her in whatever way you can. And please feel free to stop by one of her streams one day. I can guarantee that she is very very cute

>> No.39302009

She followed delta!

>> No.39302077

>>39302009
The Cover lawsuit is going to happen for sure

>> No.39302098

>>39302009
Was beginning to wonder if it would ever happen.

>> No.39302141

>>39302009
kson probably acquainted Delutaya to her, or maybe she followed back because of the kson mutual.

>> No.39302193

>>39302009
That's bad news, that girl is seriously mentally deranged and not in the sexy kind like Mike

>> No.39302224

>>39302009
now they can awkwardly not interact with each other. might get some fun out of watching them try to navigate that part unless kson helps out there

>> No.39302302

So no Genshin stream today or what

>> No.39302344

>>39302077
LETS GOOOO

>> No.39302380

>>39302141
Think she's going through her follower list and returning follows to people she's heard of, new follows still going up

>> No.39302396

>>39302380
Or just big accounts.

>> No.39302459

>>39302396
There's two accounts with less than 7k and ~9k followers, so not necessarily

>> No.39302548

>>39302302
at this point I'd say a small chance

>> No.39302566

I'm so happy she gave Delta a follow

>> No.39302616

>>39302302
She did say できたら, so eh

>>39302566
I hope they can be friends watch retards spamming "when collab?!" during the next stream and make her shy away from it

>> No.39302624

色んな登場人物に人生ボロボロにされて本当に許せない何度も裏切られボロボロにされてもお前が悪いと最終的に…そして
精神がついにおかしくなり、あいつはやばいやばいと言われまくる‍️

と言う夢を見ました。覚めたので夢だよな????????𓈒 𓂂𓏸これからでかけて精神安定させてくる

>> No.39302627

new tweet

色んな登場人物に人生ボロボロにされて本当に許せない何度も裏切られボロボロにされてもお前が悪いと最終的に…そして
精神がついにおかしくなり、あいつはやばいやばいと言われまくる‍️

と言う夢を見ました。覚めたので夢だよな????????𓈒 𓂂𓏸これからでかけて精神安定させてくる

>> No.39302672

>>39301842
"dag doll" from moon gundam

>> No.39302675

another tweet

許せ!!!!ねえ!!!!!!!!!!!!(発作)

>> No.39302696

Not even my translators can tell what she means in these tweets...
any ideas bros??

>> No.39302698

What did she mean by this

>> No.39302716

おすすめかなんか知らないけど魔女やら角やらの画像出てこないでほしい

>> No.39302722

shes on a spree

おすすめかなんか知らないけど魔女やら角やらの画像出てこないでほしい

>> No.39302730

>>39302716
What did she mean by this

>> No.39302734

That was a record time deletion

>> No.39302744

>Follows delu
>Cryptic tweets
Oh yea, it’s all coming together

>> No.39302891

>>39302624
>>39302696
I think i kinda got an idea after going over with yomichan weird word by weird word.
I think she's just trying to be poetic about reliving (mentally) past traumas.
>>39302716
But then i have no idea what this means, is this a reply to someone? It sounds like one.

>> No.39302932

>>39302891
I chalked it up as just a nightmare but that last one is so confusing

>> No.39302985

>>39302891
I think she's voicing her frustration at not only getting her life messed up by various people, getting betrayed, and even after breaking down from it all she's still being called the bad guy, and then stating her disbelief at it being real (I woke up so it's a dream, it has to be a dream right?). Maybe she did see a nightmare, maybe she as you say is just being poetic.

>> No.39302993

So she was betrayed by holos after all then

>> No.39303011

First two is her having a lot of dark thoughts after being betrayed, and then told she's the one to blame.
Third Alluding she doesn't want to see something that's going around..
It's all super cryptic so who really knows.

>> No.39303019

>>39302993
could mean anyone — korekore, management, the fans who turned on her

>> No.39303030

>>39303011
I do wonder what kind of images got recommended to her. She probably knew how easily that tweet could've been misunderstood too which is why the swift delete.

>> No.39303089

>>39303030
I took it as some chuuni way of saying "I don't want to see your hateful bullshit anymore"

>> No.39303103

>>39302141
>>39302224
Again, as far as we know kson and delta have never interacted with each other besides following.

>> No.39303106

>>39302716
I can't believe it was shion and watame all along.

>> No.39303115

>>39302624
>>39302627
>>39302675
She's legitimately fucked in the head and needs proper medical help. I'm worried for her but I doubt thoughts and prayers on Twitter are going to help her in any capacity. She doesn't need faceless white knights on the internet, she needs medication and a psychiatrist. This is like, what, the fourth or fifth time she's sperged out since the firing. She hasn't moved on at all, has she?

>> No.39303131

>>39303115
Hard to move on until justice has been served.

>> No.39303150

>>39303115
Nope. And the thing is I think she is absolutely resistant to getting psychiatric help unless someone performs an intervention of some sort. Or if the psychiatrist can do house visits to guarantee her coming to sessions.

>> No.39303156

>>39303131
It never will.
What's justice in her head doesn't correspond with reality. Faster she moves on the better.

>> No.39303164

>>39303115
Hard to move on when thousands of "people" are doing their best to ruin your life and make you miserable

>> No.39303166 [DELETED] 

>>39302141
>>39302224
Again, as far as we know kson and delta have never interacted with each other besides following.

>> No.39303177

>>39303115
Haven't had much experience with the mental healthcare system, huh? It's actually more or less useless, almost everyone who actually improves long-term does most of the heavy lifting themselves. And it's even worse in Japan. I do hope she's taking her meds though.

>> No.39303189

>>39303156
It's hard being lawful good.

>> No.39303206

>>39303115
This has nothing to do with mental illness. Any normal person in her position would have a hard time dealing with everything that has happened to her. Yes, her mental illness doesn't help, but I know many fully healthy people who would be doing and handling this much worse. These are just a few cryptic tweets, nothing to make a big deal about. If she could speak her mind, they would probably be much better.

>> No.39303215

>>39303156
>What's justice in her head doesn't correspond with reality.
We don't know that for sure

>> No.39303231

>>39303164
There is an easy logical way to deal with them.

But who wants to live without internet in this day and age?

>> No.39303246

>>39303215
She was already apologizing in advance and expecting people to hate her last time she mentioned telling her side of the story. Even she knows her idea of justice is fucked up. If you've seen enough of her history you'd know that she's not lawful, just vengeful.

>> No.39303255

https://twitter.com/sugitaLOV/status/1511354028491681793

>> No.39303257

>>39303206
I'd say she's doing pretty good considering everything that's happened, and her mental state.
Much worse twitter meltdowns happen over much smaller things.

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>>39303255
I need me some of that

>> No.39303289

>>39303115
What reality are you living in when losing everything in your life is just something you forget about after a month?

>> No.39303308

>>39303289
>losing everything
But she didn't lose anything?

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>>39303308
How dense are you?

>> No.39303323

>>39303317
What did she lose?

>> No.39303334

>>39303289
Just forgive and forget bro. Look forward to the future! You're not a menhera, are you?

>> No.39303335

>>39303308
yeah dude getting unceremonious shitcanned from a position you've held for years, despite being the company's top earner, is a nothingburger. ffs.

>> No.39303347

It's a bait using concern faggotry. He finally got a bunch of you to bite.

>> No.39303363

>>39303335
She wanted to quit because of shit management, just not like this. She still lost nothing as a result. All the fans that actually cared about her are still with her.

>> No.39303373

>>39303323
Her entire world was taken from her, she even attempted suicide after it was ripped out from her in one day. I don't wanna hear any bullshit about how she should just move on from this so quickly. I want her to take gradual slow steps forward until she realizes she's safe but simply. I just want her to be safe and I don't want to even consider the fact that we almost lost her.

>> No.39303374

>>39303323
ogey

>> No.39303400

>>39303373
She didn't lose anything in the end though. She attempted suicide because her own employer was slandering her while threatening her with lawsuits if she dared to defend herself.

>> No.39303403

>>39303103
what I meant was that unless someone else pulls them in nothing is going to happen besides them following each other. after thinking about it I don't think kson will be the one to do it either since she seems content where she is

>> No.39303425

>>39303400
You are retarded. This is my last (You) you’re getting.
I suggest everyone else ignore it as well.

>> No.39303445

>>39303425
So you think she would be happier if she was getting harassed by her manager today and had kept her job under Cover?
All the same bullshit rumors would have still come out all the same.

>> No.39303472

>>39302716
>>39302722
i sure hope she doesn't mean shion...
would horns be ayame, choco or watame?

>> No.39303485

>>39303317
>>39303335
It's the ESL weasel, you're wasting your time. He doesn't understand colloquialisms, but paradoxically doesn't understand dictionary definitions for words either.

>> No.39303494

>>39303485
There was nothing colloquial about you OUTRIGHT claiming that Cover's statement OUTRIGHT stated that holos have bfs.

>> No.39303533

>>39303472
I don’t really see it being them... It would break my heart if it was. It’s so vague it could just be about her not wanting to become a demon or witch of revenge or something.

>> No.39303536

See, he doesn't even understand that "basically" was a modifier, and you can't just chop words out otherwise you could remove "much" from "pretty much" and claim someone is calling something attractive.

>> No.39303549

>>39303494
NTA but realistically speaking, most Holos have bfs. The only difference is that some go to extreme lengths to appear otherwise while some don't give a fuck.

>> No.39303567

>>39303549
Don't bother, he's too dumb. He also thinks posts full of text are "literally nothing" and that "forbidden" only has 1 definition.

>> No.39303570

>>39303472
IF she's really trying to hint at holos, the first one to come to mind would be Watame, since's she has 角 in her name, but that's a big if. >>39303533 sounds more like it.

>> No.39303576

>>39303536
It's really seeing you seethe this hard over your moronic post getting called out. You said the statement said holos have bfs.

>> No.39303591

>>39303570
she's literally just referring to the stereotypical evil witch/devil figure. It's not that deep

>> No.39303596

>>39303549
So was Cover saying that holos have bfs or not? I thought you guys said only antis thought that, but now you seem to be calling them all whores.
What's with the change of attitude?

>> No.39303622

someone's posting the tweets on the numberfag threads on /vt/ to create another false consensus towards mike, just saying. next time you'll know, people there will believe that Shion and Watame are her bullies because she alluded to witches and horns on those tweets.

>> No.39303635

>>39303622
should try to spin it to be ayame instead. would go well with the bait threads about her not streaming

>> No.39303653

>>39303622
this is why we need the TLs to blow up rrats
guess we gotta go kill some /vt/ rrats there today

>> No.39303693

>>39303622
There is nothing to fix there, she is literally hinting at shion + someone with horn there, you don't have to be a genius to see that

>> No.39303700

>>39303653
i had an idea about making a falseflag anti thread so you can refute the rrats. then you'd be in right at the beginning. you'd have to space it out and change your posting style so it wouldn't be obvious tho

>> No.39303702

I know it's old hat at this point and I kinda hate myself for bringing up such a low hanging fruit but I'm pretty sure it's a chink. Blind hatred toward Cover and everyone involved no matter how little of a role they can play in this situation, ESL, doesn't know when to let go of past grudges, tries to get revenge on Cover Anonymous legion style, changes IP like his life depends on it.
If it walks like a dog, barks like a dog, etc.

>> No.39303723

>>39303693
If if was ayame they wouldn’t have been given a song together for the fes.

>> No.39303725

>>39303702
i guess that makes sense. although it could just be cover schizo, wojack poster, etc. trying a new play since the old one is so obvious.

>> No.39303728

>>39302624
>>39302675
>I've had my life be torn apart by so many different people and I really can't forgive them. No matter how many times I get betrayed and torn apart in the end it's "You're the one in the wrong here"... and then finally I go nuts , and people keep on saying "she's crazy, she's crazy".

... is the dream I saw. Since I woke up, it's a dream right?????????????? I'm going to go outside and stabilize myself and come back.

>Can't!!! Forgive!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Fit of rage)

>> No.39303731

>>39303725
>cover schizo
That's what I'm implying, Cover schizo being a chink.

>> No.39303734

>>39303622
She is probably referring to someone on Hololive with those tweets though because おすすめ literally means recommendation so おすすめかなんか知らないけど would be "I don't care if it's your recommendation or whatever, I don't want to see any pictures of witches or horns" and I doubt people are showing her medieval European paintings of witches and horns so it's probably a reference to someone with a witch/horn design.

>> No.39303735

>>39303723
didn't the original bullying rrat say she was being forced to do collabs with that person?

>> No.39303739

>>39303702
Your point here is based on the assumption that the hatred towards Cover is blind and unjustified, but it isn't.
It's like someone calling you a chink because you too hate Cover.

>> No.39303744

Maybe this is pointless to ask, but why in fucking numbers? She's not even allowed in those threads because she isn't a tuber.
I know the numbersfags are a bunch of subhuman filth, but I would have at least hoped they could have kept their autism to numbers rather than spreading rrats.

>> No.39303748

i think there's a difference between hating cover, hating the holos, and wanting to burn cover down. cover schizo is more the latter

>> No.39303757

>>39303702
chink or just an anti vtuber kinda person, it's hard to tell since there are so many chinks and (oddly) not all of them are evil bug eating monsters that ruin people/nation's lives

Or a chink that just happens to hate vtubers, whatever the case we need to move on from the subject until we have more information about them or PREFERABLY focus on the poor girl these threads were intended for and help her instead of witch hunting

>> No.39303775

>>39303748
If you hate Cover wouldn't you want them to go out of business?

>> No.39303787

>>39303744
numberfag threads are where the tourists usually flock, and considering how /vt/ easily bites bait and take it as fact, it's a prime spot to rile people up against mike.

>> No.39303805

>>39303744
Numberfags are subhuman scum, don't bother trying to understand

>> No.39303828

>>39303787
Is there even any way to fight rrats there? There's no real warning as to when someone will just post one of her tweets.
And as other anons were talking about first impressions for newfags, will they actually look to numbers for this shit? I'm not opposed to going over there, but I'd just like to know what others think

>> No.39303899

>>39303828
no idea if that's where newfags will go, but a dedicated thread, anti or not, will obviously have more visibility than a post buried 100 posts down in a thread. it's probably better to spend your limited time/energy on the higher visibility thread

>> No.39303964

>>39303828
you can at least report it as "roommate posting" or "not vtuber related", but getting it deleted is a coinflip, unless it's an EN/mori roommate post.

>> No.39303973

Twitter has a couple features that might be relevant here. One, there is a "who to follow" section where accounts that Twitter thinks are similar to yours pop up. Secondly, Twitter will show you posts that people you followed liked, as well as a more recent addition where it will use an algorithm to show you posts it thinks are relevant to your interests. So if she is referencing Holomems, it may be that these people are popping up in her feed/"who to follow" unsolicited. Doesn't even necessarily mean she hates them, she may just not appreciate the reminder of her previous life, it's like opening old wounds.

>> No.39303983

>>39303744
Just like ホロアン is essentially numberfag central on 5ch, so numberfag central on 4chan became essentially the western version of ホロアン, except a little more broad in scope. Numberfaggotry and schizoposting attract essentially the same kind of people.

>> No.39304004

>>39302716
Horn is slang for a dick. I'm not sure about the witch bit, but I'm going to take a wild guess that it has to do with a witch wearing a hat roughly looking like a glans and shaft. She's being sent images like:

https://twitter.com/kabagon123/status/1511354728785276928
and
https://twitter.com/Shuto5150/status/1511358667643559947

Of course, I could be completely wrong. I don't know, I'm sure as hell not native.

>> No.39304020

>>39304004
jesus fucking christ

>> No.39304028

>>39304004
I did notice the early anti replies to those tweets were mentioning dicks

>> No.39304030

>>39304004
That's not a bad theory. Report these btw.

>> No.39304072

>>39304004
Makes the best sense for now actually

>> No.39304100

>>39304004
>we're back in hard androphobia
fuck's sake

>> No.39304121

>>39304004
makes sense

>> No.39304122

>>39304100
emphasis in hard

>> No.39304164

jesus christ tiktok why did I just receive a notification for her post from two days ago

>> No.39304235

>>39304004
This is actually more plausible now that I think hard on it. Please let's all try to report these and as many more as we can find.

>> No.39304237

I don't know if this can be somehow related, but there's this manga called Witch Hat Atelier, just a few hours ago they announced an anime adaptation, could it be possible that she is fan of it and was referring to this?

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>> No.39304298

>>39304237
why would that be upsetting her

>> No.39304444

>>39304237
i don't think she even knows about that, based on her taste in anime. (she's more of a boys anime/mangafag than anything else)

>> No.39304454

>>39299718
>fairly recent
>recent
...

>> No.39304475

>>39304298
I don't know, her mind is a complete mystery, it's just the timing for the announce and the tweet with those words picks my attention, of course it could all be completely unrelated and i'm seeing things

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>> No.39304831

i miss her, i miss her, i miss her, i miss her...

>> No.39305141

>>39304831
I don't. I only feel void now.

>> No.39305148

>>39304831
I want her to feel better soon, I want her to rest, I want her to smile, I want her to look forward to seeing us again, I want her to forget about the bad times even if just for a moment, I want her to laugh, I want her to be a bit needy and selfish with us.

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>>39304831
I can't let go no matter how hard I try

>> No.39305289

Her chances of benig hired or aplying for another corpo are 0%, right?

>> No.39305306

>>39305289
No way another corpo would touch her with her background now

>> No.39305310

>>39305289
I doubt she'll apply for another corporation

>> No.39305313

>>39297214
>8 hours
You don't justify everything she does with ridiculous narratives and false information just because you support her. She contacted Korekore at 1AM to call him and was already messaging with him by 6:45AM. To expect Cover to deal with and issue a statement about a non-work message that might/might not imply a relationship that’s not against their rules and a private matter, in the middle of the night, when most of Japan is asleep and hasn't reacted to what's happened, on a holiday weekend, is expecting Cover to act like a Black Company. She was already leaking company information to Korekore from November, was told to stop contacting him in January, was also talking to Narukami, and this is the second time she's done something like this to another company. She made a suicide bait tweet on the 11th, two hours after mafumafu's tweet, not even 24 hours after the discord message. What you should do is tell her to stop stalking every rando and anti who simply unfollows or unblocks her because it gives the impression that she's incredibly vindictive, will take any minor slight as a heinous attack, shouldn't be taken seriously when she makes allegations about her coworkers and workplace, and is unemployable.

>> No.39305326

>>39305289
The only way she'd go corpo is by starting her own.

>> No.39305340

>>39305289
It'd have to be either a western corpo or a jap corpo with nothing to lose.

>> No.39305385

>read on /vt/ this place went full cult
>is actually the most level headed discussion I have read
I'll go away now, be adviced, you'll get a lot of tourists today.

>> No.39305409

>>39305385
Can't they just keep to themselves or something?

>> No.39305418

>>39305385
>making up random shit to change the entire reality of what happened
>level headed
This entire post right here >>39297214 is anything but level headed

>> No.39305482

>>39305409
the other pieces of drama they were talking about ended so they looped around to her

>> No.39305501

>>39305313
>She was already leaking company information to Korekore from November
proof?

>> No.39305514

>>39305482
Anti thread about her is also at around 100 replies and still timelooping around her termination. Of course, people are going full "she wanted to burn down Hololive and Cover" retard as usual.

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>> No.39305546

>>39305409
They do, THAT'S the entire fucking problem is they pretty much don't mention her or us at all until some 14 year old keeps making a bait thread about "NOW THAT THE DUST HAS SETTLED WAS SHE INNOCENT?!?" every fucking day which riled them up and gets them to fucking come shit up this thread every single time it happens. We even have /vt/ faggots that lurk here >>39305418
Just to look down on us like fucking vultures waiting for either or her or us to fuck something up. I hate admitting it but I'm glad I became a discord hugbox fan because at least I can retain my braincells just a little bit before deciding to come back to this site and rinse and repeat

>> No.39305547

>>39305533
I hope I die

>> No.39305548

>>39305533
She makes me happy...

>> No.39305558

>>39305546
But she was innocent

>> No.39305564

>>39305546
>everyone I don't like is a /vt/ faggot
Here's a little reminder for you, moron. You're the /vt/ faggot here.

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>>39305533

>> No.39305618

I think we just need to accept that /vt/ tourists and spammers will never leave alone. Even Delta still gets them. But you guys have definitely proven in these recent threads that you can mentally block them out and focus on worrying about just your oshi and that's fine. I hope that she eventually finds happiness and tranquility again and these threads will be a whole lot healthier down the road. They're even starting to get better recently so hang in there Mikebros.

>> No.39305642

>>39305501
Screenshots all there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yadVEV-f4
>>39305514
It doesn't help that she was just tweeting about how everyone betrayed her and she's the innocent one

>> No.39305675

>>39305642
>It doesn't help that she was just tweeting about how everyone betrayed her and she's the innocent one
Could be, there's still a lot that's unknown.

>> No.39305705

>>39305642
All she said was that she's been betrayed. She doesn't say who. She doesn't say how many. She doesn't call herself innocent. She doesn't blame anyone in particular for this.
Get your fucking rrat headcanon out of her.

>> No.39305712

>>39305675
She could also be referring to people like Kore. Remember she flipped on Twitter the other day and most likely referred to him in her tweet of "never involve yourself with a person who can't keep their promise 3 times" or something along those lines.

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>> No.39305773

>>39305533
This tweet is what sold me on her.

>> No.39305797

>>39305705
>>39305712
色んな登場人物 means many different people and人生ボロボロにされて許せない, 何度も裏切られボロボロにされてもお前が悪いと最終的にandやばいやばいと言われまくるmeans she does believe she's the innocent one being blamed and she won't forgive it

>> No.39305798

>>39305705
>She doesn't blame anyone in particular for this.
If she doesn't, then why do you?

>> No.39305911

>>39305798
I don't. We're not a hivemind here. I see this simply as the result of numerous unfortunate events, incidents and actions that led to an undesirable outcome.
That's why I don't waste my time with meaningless speculation about her cryptic venting tweets when they provide so little information. The only information I need to know is that she's hurting, she's upset and she needs to let someone know.
That's why I don't go out of my way to harass any other fans or hold grudges. The most important thing to me in all of this is her happiness, and I'm going to continue to support her

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I hope there's a stream tomorrow
I want to see her

>> No.39305977

Didn't follow her at all as Rushia but I checked her out after the みけねこ account was made and she seems like a nice girl. Regret not giving her a chance before.

I came from some funny vt fanfiction thread and hell it's the complete opposite end of the spectrum from the "omg cover evil fire bcuz boyfrend wtf idol culture" twitter rrat. Glad to see this thread is comparatively sane.

Make sure y'all be good to her, yeah?

>> No.39305993

>>39305977
>Glad to see this thread is comparatively sane.

>> No.39306012

>>39305977
Thanks for looking out anon, good to see we're not completely hated there

>> No.39306029

>>39305923
I'm super worried about her right now, her last tweets gave me cause for concern. Doesn't help that she went out for a walk in the middle of the night to calm down. I hope she's okay and made it home safely. Fuck I always worry too much over her receny

>> No.39306038

>>39306029
(Me)
*Recently

>> No.39306076

>>39305977
Thanks for keeping an open mind about her, anon

>> No.39306153

>>39305797
Don't take her 許せないs too seriously. She says that almost as often as she breathes.

>> No.39306261

>>39306029
I try not to worry too much for my own good, but it's difficult sometimes.

>> No.39306541

>>39305642
Not good enough. Which part proves she was leaking shit in November?

>> No.39306728

Another Semi-successful 2-day thread, albeit with minor bumps and attempted looping but still.

>> No.39306862

>>39306541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yadVEV-f4
13:18 On 2021.11.11 at 11:30PM. You should really watch from 9 minutes in to get the full picture. He gives a timelime and has screenshots, photos, and deleted tweets. You'll be completely out of the loop and repeat the same answered questions if you don't.

>> No.39307085

>>39306862
>Assuming we haven't seen that Kore2 video
I swear to God every week you fags post that in here and think it'll change any of our opinions.

>> No.39307106

>>39307085
You literally just asked what part proves that she was leaking shit.

>> No.39307145

Whatever she said to korekore in Nov/Dec probably wasn't even the problem, she got let off with a warning for it. Some people have speculated she got audited after leaking on 2/10 and found [whatever] but I don't think that's it. It's whatever she gave to Narukami, which he refused to reveal, that led to the termination.

>> No.39307155

>>39307106
You realize there are multiple Anons using this thread right. That wasn't me, I'm just annoyed the same Kore2 video keeps getting posted in our thread, just tell the guy to do reps or something.

>> No.39307171

>>39307155
Then why are you getting pissed off over some other anon's question getting answered? Are you retarded?
No, just telling them to "do their reps" isn't enough because nobody actually fucking cares enough to find out any facts and just post "QRD bros??" to get their opinions spoonfed to them.
The next best thing to do is to hit them in the face with the actual source.

>> No.39307218

Report anti scum

>> No.39307226

more tweets

>> No.39307240

she's awake. Let's help her out and report

>> No.39307268

>>39307145
I believe Narukami said that he didn't want to reveal it because he was afraid he'd get sued. Assuming he's not lying (big assumption), then it must make Cover look pretty bad.

>> No.39307346

>>39307268
That would also mean she can win against Cover in court.

>> No.39307395

I did my part reporting, there's been in increase in fake accounts lately, have also been noticing these nips going after kaigai as well lately. Pretty funny when they use broken ass engrish to Larp as an overseas

>> No.39307406

>>39307155
"Don't spoonfeed" is good advice but posting definitive proof against misinformation is not spoonfeeding imo.

>> No.39307409

>>39306862
you realize youre like an atheist coming to quote a bible to people in church right, we know all this shit, do your reps

>> No.39307468

I'm torn between my rational desire her to stop the dramabaiting and move on, and emotionally wanting to know what happened. I imagine she feels the same way.

>> No.39307573

>>39307268
>Narukami
She leaked to Narukami about Otogi Resurrection when she was Komainu Chino and gave him doctored messages and emails. I doubt he wanted to repeat what happened, especially when he was skeptical about the bullying claims this time.

>> No.39307578

>>39307268
he already is getting owned in court by roa, note

>> No.39307590

>>39307573
>gave him doctored messages and emails
That didn't happen. They were real.

>> No.39307635

>>39307573
I can kind of understand how people come to conclusions like "everything she leaked was lies" when she was Rushia, because Holo unity and so on, but why would you believe that about a Vtuber group that went down in flames?
Do you really think she tricked everyone into bailing, many of them also leaking on the way? Just think about this. If what you're saying is she's some sort of evil mastermind who destroys companies with fake leaks... that would actually be kind of cool, she is not only Hololive's first real villain, but honestly the biggest villain of Vtubing of all time. Too bad we didn't see any of that on display here, and actually her leaking hurt nobody but herself, got her fired and ruined her reputation.

>> No.39307664

>>39307635
fuck off with the villain bullshit

>> No.39307698

>>39307664
He was obviously being sarcastic

>> No.39307702

>>39307664
I mean, it's not true, but I'd like her even if it was.

>> No.39307710

>>39305797
>色んな登場人物 means many different people
Many is too strong when it can also be a much weKer "various" or potentially even something similar to "multiple". It's not 沢山.
>innocent
She has never said anything that would imply that she believes that she shared anything dangerous, this is true. She has said that she regrets acting so hastily among apologizing for other things, though.
In that case, what is she not innocent of? If she truly doesn't believe that what she shared was in any way compromising anything but her NDA, and she believes she was treated unfairly in terms of Cover's response to her issue, why would she claim that she's guilty? Her "innocent"(which she never says, just speaks in a way you construe as loosely implying that she believes something along those lines, not that I fully disagree)isn't her arguing over whether she violated her NDA, it's quite clearly "moral" correctness. Rushia is not a orporate businesswomen. She's speaking from the heart, not about what would win in a business meeting debate. I don't know why that would even be important at this point?

>> No.39307712

at least it's easy to tell who doesn't know anything when they accuse her of being some villainous plotting mastermind

>> No.39307736

Post anti accounts here. Even though we have a fuck ton of tourists who'd be antsgonistic in any circumatance, surely a few of them would have the decency to help report obvious scumbags even if their opinion on mikeneko may be mixed.
We should be doing this way more often, honestly. If the thread is below bump limit, just sage those posts.

>> No.39307778

>>39307710
When you fuck up it is natural to go over everything you did and feel bad about it, "what if I'd done something else," even if the things themselves are not a bad thing on their own.
Imagine waking up late for work and getting fired. Not morally wrong but you'll always say "why didn't I just sleep earlier" if you liked that job.

>> No.39307804

>>39307712
You have to be one dumb motherfucker to deny that she was planning on leaving.

>> No.39307819

The reason she is who she is today is because, after the world beating down on her naive and idealistic world view since she was young, she lost any semblance of faith or self-worth. It's why she started vtubing in the first place. Being Rushia was what let her, slowly, surely, find a consistently warm, comfortable, accepting place, where affirmation of people loving her was available at the press of a button. That love took a while to grind away at her fundamentally pessimistic misanthropic self-hating shell, but we were the ones who built her back into the hopeful girl who loved the world and wanted to protect it.
The reason she's freaking out so much is because she doesn't want to go back to her emotional shell of misanthropy of distrust. She keeps doing everything she can to veer back into the bubbly naive humanity loving girl she loved being but because she does that every collision with her overwhelming hatred is as fresh as the last.

She doesn't want thick skin.

>> No.39307827

>>39307804
Weird, no one denied that, almost as if you're changing the subject.

>> No.39307842

>>39307827
You always attack the claim about her intentionally spreading rumors with your "villainous plotting masterming" strawman. She WAS doing that, but she was really shit at it.

>> No.39307843

>>39307804
There's a difference between planning to leave and being an villain Anon.

>> No.39307846

>>39307778
But she did apologize, she said she wished she didn't act so hastily, she has griped about how not to trust people if they've betrayed you multiple times(likely about korekore).
What do you want from her? She genuinely believes that an organization she trusted and worked dilligently for for almost 3 years was ready to deconstruct what she considered the most important aspect of her career and frankly her life. She wishes it didn't happen like it did. That doesn't mean she can't feel as if the whole situation feels needlessly unfair to her even if it was technically by the books.

>> No.39307851

>>39307590
>>39307635
Why did Narukami delete everything? Why was the archive on bilibili also recently deleted? Do you seriously believe the victim of a friend of a friend of a bully was able to obtain an email from the bully's manager? Do you also think it's just a coincidence that she claimed she was being bullied by people streaming into her time slot, which she also claimed to Narukami about Cover, and spreading rumors about her, which she also claimed to Korekore about Cover? Members of Otogi have already confirmed Chino is not why they went bust and that the bullying claims are false. She also said, but provided no proof, that Komachi was spreading rumors about Momoi Sasaki on 5chan when there were hardly any rumors about her and Komachi and Momoi were close.

>> No.39307858

>>39307851
Narukami made all of it up.

>> No.39307869

>>39307804
She considered leaving back when fucking Coco was in Hololive and talked her out of it.
She was damn near traumatized and literally driven to tears more than once and even suicidal rumination because of how terrible her work circumstances affected her, but that doesn't mean she wanted to leave, it means she just wanted to stop hurting.

>> No.39307870

>>39307846
I was saying she is innocent.

>> No.39307879

>>39307842
What people are claiming here is two things. One, she literally is a successful villainous plotting mastermind who took down Otogi Resurrection with fake screenshots and convinced a dozen girls to bail through her lies. The other is that actually she's shit at it, and that's why it failed at Hololive. Of course in reality there's really nothing to back up the claims of her behaving like a villain in either case.

>> No.39307889

>>39307869
No she has been wanting to leave since 3rd gen live. Did you not even read the things she wrote?

>> No.39307904

the one thing that has NEVER been actually proven to have happened, throughout every single scandal either Rushia or mikeneko has had, was an instance of her forging anything she provided

Tons of other shit about her has been proven, not just suspected. She's been having scandals for a long time. You buying this particular counter claim on the basis of "she forged it" doesn't work for me, sorry. People who forge shit are careless enough to be habitual enough to at least get caught red-handed once over more than 10 years of being a public figure.

>> No.39307931
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39307931

new tweet

>> No.39307935

>みんなへ。私になりすましたツイッター等の対処ありがとうございます。本当はもっとリスナーさんと笑ってすごしたいけど、現状があまりにも酷くて悪化する一方でそれが叶わなくてごめんなさい。力になってくれてありがとう。

>> No.39307950

a tweet in english...kaigaibros....

>> No.39307960

>>39307879
You can't seriously read those messages and claim she wasn't intending to inflict damage on hololive.

>> No.39307975

>>39307851
>Why did Narukami delete everything?
Huh, wonder why he wouldn't have evidence out there relating to vtuber drama. It's a total mystery.
>Members of Otogi have already confirmed Chino is not why they went bust and that the bullying claims are false.
Sounds like a total shitshow of a company. Of course all of this shit is ancient anyway, it's just dredged back up to blame on her.

>> No.39307978

>>39307858
She twitcasted about it before Narukami reported it. That was how people first caught on that she was Chino and was leaking to Narukami. She tried to stop people from talking about it on 5chan by threatening to call the police and get a lawyer.

>> No.39307992

Mikeneko Thread
turned into
Vtuber Drama Thread

>> No.39308003
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>>39307935
>>39307931
I hope things improve soon, I want to see her smile and hear her laugh again.
I'll support her forever!

>> No.39308022

>>39307879
>What people are claiming here is two things. One, she literally is a successful villainous plotting mastermind who took down Otogi Resurrection with fake screenshots and convinced a dozen girls to bail through her lies.
No one is claiming she convinced other members at Otogi to bail. She called all of them trash in her Mikeneko twitcast and wanted to die but wanted to take her bullies out first, which isn't all that different from what she told Korekore when she complained about a senpai in Cover.

>> No.39308029

>>39307935
>Looses everything and has to deal with thousands of antis
>SHE apologizes to US
She really is pure hearted

>> No.39308036

>>39308003
it's nice to know that my autistic reporting is helping her ever so slightly. I want to see her smile again soon as well

>> No.39308037

>>39307960
You seriously can't read those messages. She said a bunch of cryptic bullshit to korekore, refused to explain it, and ended with suicide baiting. This is not "being bad at being an evil mastermind", this is legit self-harming, self-sabotaging menhera behavior.

>> No.39308056

>>39308037
>"when I die release these messages so these assholes suffer"
>cryptic bullshit

>> No.39308109

>>39308037
>>39308056
Both of you are wrong

>> No.39308111

>>39308056
Who actually suffered when these messages were released? Her, for this remark specifically. She didn't give kore anything. She may have given Narukami something, but who knows?

>> No.39308129

>>39308111
Guaranteed that Kore selectivity showed messages to make her look as bad as possible

>> No.39308141

>>39308111
Are you telling me that there actually isn't a group of people trying to figure out who this supposed harassing senpai was? Downplaying and discrediting the people doing that doesn't change that fact that it's happening.

>> No.39308152

>>39308129
Yeah and he was also doing his best to make Cover look as good as possible.

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>>39308036
If it helps her even a little bit I'll report every anti piece of shit that I see.

>> No.39308195

>>39308141
I believe there is someone in the company she had a conflict with. I'm not convinced everything she said was lies, but neither are they the whole truth. It's her perspective on the situation, and sometimes her judgment is wrong. No one here is seriously trying to figure out "who done it", it's almost never discussed, so you must have come from /vt/.

>> No.39308244

>>39308195
>I believe there is someone in the company she had a conflict with. I'm not convinced everything she said was lies, but neither are they the whole truth.
And just like that you've admitted that her messages managed to damage hololive. Good job.
>No one here is seriously trying to figure out "who done it"
The bunker was fucking full of it for the next few days after the last korekore stream, but I'm sure you'll discount them as antis or something.
>you must have come from /vt/
The good old reliable, huh? I guess you can just stop replying altogether now because you believe you're talking to someone from /vt/ despite being from there yourself.

>> No.39308286

>>39308244
I don't give a fuck about what goes on in the bunker, or discord, or r*ddit. I just post here. And I'm not from /vt/.

>> No.39308309

>>39308244
I don't care about the bunker, man, why do you keep bringing it up? Unless you are going to post some TLs all it is is a distraction.

>> No.39308334

>>39308286
>>39308309
The bunker faggots were posting here among you back then so you don't just get to discount them as if they don't even exist.

>> No.39308391

it looks like she did plan to stream today but the increase in anti-activity stressed her out.

>> No.39308413

>>39308334
Okay, so, that was over a month ago now, and right at the low point. Nobody's seriously talked about "who was the bully" for weeks, because there's nothing to say, all you can do is speculate on the indecipherable hints she drops.

>> No.39308438

>>39308413
I still don't understand what your goal with all of this is. Your opinion about hololive went down as a result of the messages.

>> No.39308458

>>39308438
My opinion of Hololive went down because I just feel a kind of sadness when I see Hololive content. That only happened after 2/24. It doesn't really have anything to do with the messages.

>> No.39308484

>>39308458
The messages also only came out after 2/24. You will never be able to look at most pre-gen3 members without some suspicion.
You can keep repeating "hate the management, love the talent" but you know you don't believe that.

>> No.39308494

>>39308458
I feel the same way but I did myself a favor and just stopped watching that stuff altogether. Did other things with my spare time. and Obviously still support Mikeneko but it's crazy how I just stopped considering myself a hololive fan after shit went south. I'll probably never adjust myself to watch them again but I've already decide that I will spend my time making sure Mikeneko comes out of this mess happy and smiling

>> No.39308526

>>39308484
Anon, I just don't care about that anymore. She's not in Hololive anymore, she will never be in Hololive again, Hololive is none of my business anymore. It's regrettable if understandable that she doesn't seem to feel the same way.

>> No.39308528

>>39308334
It's fine to post /here/, but constantly referencing "bunker this bunker that" when we can't have context for it and nothing is coming out of it is pointless. Personally I want bunkerfags to help out and be useful, I think they can have an important role to play in safeguarding the community and helping dispel rrats, rather than just being a place to talk.


>>39308458
Yeah, I couldn't bear to watch the fes. All the joy I had watching them drained away. I've started watching again somewhat but it's like 10% of what I used to. Like going back to a room you found a loved one dead in.

>> No.39308594

>>39308528
>It's fine to post /here/, but constantly referencing "bunker this bunker that" when we can't have context for it and nothing is coming out of it is pointless
When your point is "nobody took X claim seriously" don't complain when you get proven wrong.

>> No.39308605

>>39308594
That wasn't me.

>> No.39308610

>>39308605
Don't talk to me then.

>> No.39308624

She unfollowed Rika now? It's now a one sided follow from Rika's side, so not even a block.

>> No.39308630

>>39308610
When you post in a thread, don't complain when you get replied to.

>> No.39308632

>>39308594
That's not what I said. I said nobody talks about it, which is true, at least since the immediate aftermath. I don't deny that people coped over a month ago if that's what you want to hear.

>> No.39308659

>>39308624
Who is Rika?

>> No.39308666

>>39308630
I will complain and shit all over your face when you fail to follow the conversation. Read the conversation before replying or shut the fuck up.

>>39308632
>I said nobody talks about it
No you said
>No one here is seriously trying to figure out "who done it"
I proved you wrong. Even in the threads there were people trying to figure it out. Now you will just say that they're all schizo antis from /vt/ so they actually don't count.

>> No.39308679

>>39308659
Mel.

>> No.39308703

>>39308666
>I will complain and shit all over your face when you fail to follow the conversation. Read the conversation before replying or shut the fuck up.
You are a tremendous faggot.

>> No.39308709

>>39308666
Satan, give it a rest. That happened over two months ago. Who cares?

>> No.39308720

>>39308709
Sorry, it was a month and a half. It just feels like longer.

>> No.39308722

>>39308709
You seem to care since you're still arguing about how she apparently didn't actually do anything.

>> No.39308733

>>39308458
I kinda feel the same way. Rushia is always in the back of my mind whenever I see Hololive nowadays. It's just not the kind of escapism it used to be for me anymore.

>> No.39308743

>>39308733
Yeah like... everyone's just laughing and having fun... but the death of their friend's in the background... I guess that's just how it is in real life too.

>> No.39308770

>>39308624
Keep in mind she posted on instagram earlier not to attack the people she follows. Not sure if related but the unfollow happened shortly after that.

>> No.39308783

>>39308743
It really goes to show that they really didn't give a fuck about her.

>> No.39308788

So she is just a crazy bitch in the end
Kson will not collab with her because kson likes hololive
Kson Canan and Nozomi will collab while she tweets about how she was betrayed
Sad

>> No.39308790

>>39306862
so what did she leak "on 2021.11.11 at 11:30PM"
i want a list

>> No.39308794

>>39308722
You just change the subject all over the place. I don't care about bunkerfags or even thread regulars speculating on "who's the bully" on 2/25. That was the height of the shitstorm and I expect posts to be bad and cope and schizo.

>> No.39308799

>>39308783
Holy shit you are retarded.

>> No.39308822

>>39308794
>You just change the subject
No you're the one doing that
>I don't care about bunkerfags or even thread regulars speculating on "who's the bully" on 2/25.
You aid that nobody cared about it, but now you're changing it to you not caring if others cared about it.

>> No.39308827

>>39308783
My cousin died a few months ago in a car accident.
We went to his funeral and cried.
Now I'm laughing along with my friends at the bar.
I'm still sad about his passing but it's not every waking moment of my life.
Life doesn't work that way.

>> No.39308839

>>39308799
No you are

>>39308827
But Mikeneko didn't die so what happened is not just something they have to get over and ignore as soon as they can

>> No.39308861

>>39308839
So you're saying Cover should have executed her?

>> No.39308865

>>39308822
why are you such a whiny faggot?

>> No.39308869

>>39308743
>>39308783
This is what bothers me the most. I'm not sure who to trust in holo anymore, if anyone. It's pretty shitty because I actually liked them, not to mention my oshi...

>> No.39308873

>>39308827
but they didn't cry when she died...

>> No.39308876

>>39308869
The sad truth is that most of them are not nice people.

>> No.39308898

>>39308822
I never said no one ever cared about it at any point in time. It's just not discussed and hasn't been for a long time. Most seem to take even today's "hints" as being about something totally unrelated. My original wording was "no one is seriously trying to figure out out", that doesn't necessarily mean that two 400lbs otaku in a bunker weren't sucking each other off about it over a month ago.

>> No.39308901

>>39308876
proof?

>> No.39308924

>>39308876
She said rabbits are hardworking.

>> No.39308943

>>39308873
They didn't cry -on air-, because management would have a strangehold on them to maintain the PR line in the aftermath of a firing. Lots of tweets on their personal accounts saying they were sad on literally the day of her firing or thereabouts and various clips later show otherwise.

>> No.39308957

>>39308924
Yeah and most people are not rabbits so my point still stands
In fact there's only one rabbit

>> No.39308981

>>39308957
proof?

>> No.39308994

>>39308943
>Lots of tweets on their personal accounts saying they were sad on literally the day of her firing
who?
>and various clips later show otherwise.
if
>They didn't cry -on air-, because management would have a strangehold on them to maintain the PR line in the aftermath of a firing
then who's to say those aren't also to save face?

>> No.39309006

>>39308943
>Lots of tweets on their personal accounts saying they were sad on literally the day of her firing
No there were not. Where are you even pulling this shit from?

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My wife is literally having a stressful day and you guys are arguing with the cover schizo instead of tending to her NEEDS like a real husband should

>> No.39309037

>みんなへ。私になりすましたツイッター等の対処ありがとうございます。本当はもっとリスナーさんと笑ってすごしたいけど、現状があまりにも酷くて悪化する一方でそれが叶わなくてごめんなさい。力になってくれてありがとう。

>> No.39309039

>>39307889
>3rd gen live
You mean since her cat died. And she was never planning to leave.She was suffering emotionally. A plan to leave is an educated, premeditated PLAN. She was crying for help and ruminating on drastic measures for what was a drastically awful situation.

>> No.39309048

>>39309006
Not the day of the termination announcement, the day of the firing.

>> No.39309070

>>39308943
It's cope to cast the holomems' coldness as a corporate PR line when A-chan literally said she wished Rushia was at Holofes. It was a cold dismissal and the only reason to deny that is because you actually fear "they all hate her".

>> No.39309079

>>39309070
Sorry I meant Fubuki, I'm drunk.

>> No.39309082

>>39309070
You are confused. If A-chan said that it's more proof she didn't burn bridges. But if Fubuki started wailing "NOOOO I WANT RUSHIA BACK" the day she got fired it would just start a shit show when Cover was trying to keep things under control.
Not to mention they're all entertainers and have repeatedly said they view their job to show up with a smile to make people happy and not make things be sad.
Before you point out the Coco departure, you must realize the entire event was built around that with the expectation they can let out their feelings, not it taking over normal streams.

>> No.39309087

>>39309048
Ok. So who? Can we get a list?

>> No.39309096

>not even wifeposter can save the thread
it's over...

>> No.39309100

>>39309070
>trusting the literal designated corpo mouthpiece A-cunt
Oh how we have fallen

>> No.39309102

>>39309087
There’s some here in the thread

>>39284158
>>39284314

>> No.39309107

>>39309087
bro its like in every thread...
but just to spoonfeed, shion said some things for one

>> No.39309110

>>39309079
Fubuki said she would graduate if Cover became evil but she hasn't graduated so you can't trust her anymore

>> No.39309123

Wife is twitcasting.
Stop fucking timelooping and arguing amongst yourselves and support your fucking wife you retards

>> No.39309127

>>39309102
None of those are related at all. She was fired on the 19th.

>> No.39309130

She's crying... I don't think I can take this...

>> No.39309131

She's crying...it pains me to see her like this

>> No.39309139

Damn... what the hell?

>> No.39309140

>>39309039
You're wrong because she told Narukami she wanted to quit around the start of February.

>> No.39309158

>>39309082
I agree we can't judge it by the Coco departure. That's an event where someone who was beloved by almost everyone and a huge bridge to the overseas audience was forced into graduation by antis. This was someone who was terminated. But even on those terms, the reception was cold. It's not a binary where they hate her or they deeply miss her and want to cry at her departure.

>> No.39309161

>>39309102
>>39309107
ok so that' 2. are there more?

>> No.39309165

Haven't heard her crying since 2/19 ah man
I don't think I can endure this

>> No.39309171

God damn it filtered.

>> No.39309172

Congratulations you fucking schizos. Arguing over the specifics of how a girls life fell apart to crunch the numbers about just how bad she should feel or how much you should do something about something else instead of being there for her.

Why can you never read the mood

>> No.39309174

>>39309110
i still don't get why people believe that. she basically checkmated cover with that statement by turning herself into a warrant canary. should they ever attempt to get rid of her, or do anything she doesn't like, her leaving would flush what's left of cover's rep down the toilet.

>> No.39309178

>>39309172
The fucking irony of this post LMAO

>> No.39309185

stop fucking arguing you goddamn morons and send her some love or I will call you larpers

>> No.39309198

>>39309161
do your reps
do your reps
son of a bitch

>> No.39309206

>>39309198
So you can't provide more?

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