/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

So it was ZUN who took down the website

[Anonymous No.]

whoa

[Anonymous No.]

It was me that did it because I thought it was funny

Yeah now I might get caught by police

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212526
WoW

[Anonymous No.]

I imagine the COVID-19 lockdowns changed ZUN inside. He is no longer the nice, playful, beer drinking man we once knew him as. Something changed in him. Deep in his heart, he became a monster. He unleashed his wrath on the westerners that were pirating his content; he wanted his due money. He wanted to bring the content stealers to justice.

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>>39212507
Explain

I am confused

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>>39212571
Lol

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>>39212571
More than just the police will be after you now

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212507
ZUN personally, with his own bare hands?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212587
or ya know, he has different opinions on piracy.
dude's probably got his eyes on moriya recently, and decided to strike.

at least we still got torrents, and anons that are kind enough to provide copies

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>>39212507
No, it's over. How am I going to get mah 2hus. Not like there's other place to get it.

[Anonymous No.]

The email in the capture is from...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212679
For certain fangames + translations, quite possibly. Some of those are very old and less prioritized than the official games, doesn't mean they deserve to be lost to the void. Also I assume this is going to be the thread soon since the previous one hit bump limit?

[39212571 No.]

>>39212571
I might try to go to another country
so that the police won’t find me anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212587
Remember the times when he let the fanbase do whatever they wanted as long as they didn't use official material for it? Good times.

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>>39212736
Where are you from?

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>>39212587
I don't believe the meme flu changed it, what did must have been the fuckloads of money he made by releasing his games on steam. He didn't cared much before because he assumed the baka gaijin would never buy his games, but once the truckloads of steam money came in he realized he could have made all that cash all those years ago if only he had started digital distribution early instead of letting piracy run rampant. And thus the ZUN began to hate.

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>>39212761
Money changes a person. He wants to pay for his kids and wife now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212783
Him have kids?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212783
I wonder what his stance on the series will be when ZUN finally passes away years from now. Will he still have the same goal of making his works public domain like others have said long ago or will he simply hand the rights off to family or some close legal entity?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't remember the video, but i remember when the people said " ZUN don't cares about piracy"

>>39212765

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>>39212863
In 2040?

Probably to her family

[Anonymous No.]

Well I guess I'll stop buying them and only pirate now

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212900
Shameful display. You should only buy secondhand copies of out of print games from 5+ years ago, so the devs rightfully get their dues!

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212863
No he will cuck out and sell the IP to the gacha company. He doesn't care anymore. Money is all he sees. It's all capitalism Gensokyo from here on out.

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't it wild how ZUN releases a game about a market god who gains powers from transactions and hates robbers, and then he proceeds to go after pirates?

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>>39212761
I mean he still is it's just a website with a big red target getting dmcaed
he's done this in the past, it's not gonna affect anything except availability and stuff is getting saved anyway

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>>39212507
This is going to happen to a lot of japan related media now because someone finally managed to convince them that they are losing billion each year from people pirating shit.
You know, the same retard logic that has been used in the west for music, movies and video games for decades.

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>>39212988
Epic foreshadowing

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>>39212999
And they will waste their time and money like their western counterpart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212988
>>39212916
Turns out Chimata was his real self-insert all along, not Rinnosuke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212988
He Warned Us

Meh, i not are a pirate

[Anonymous No.]

>>39213035
>ceo of gay chuuni self insert
Huh, I wonder what that could imply? Jeez. Makes you wonder. How about that.

[Anonymous No.]

Now buy the games you secondaries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212587
What the gacha money does to a MTF

[Anonymous No.]

>>39213035
Haha her self-insert is trans xdxd

[Anonymous No.]

>>39213041
this
>>39213071

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>>39213030
Of course they will be some people will make a shitton of money in the process by selling them bridges.

[Anonymous No.]

I shouldn't have to tell you fags to use nyaa instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39213156
People are trying to gather content that didn't have torrents and put them on Nyaa, that's mostly where the freak out is right now

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>>39212507
If this is true it's really too bad. To echo the sentiment of other anons, I wonder what changed. Moriya's been around a long time and it's not some super-secret club. I guess it's publicity and well-known status among Westerners just made everyone assume he was fine with it since nothing was ever done.

>>39213156
The main problem is nobody really knows what's getting hit. The mainline games will always be easy to torrent, but the same can't be said for the real obscure fangames and other content which now face a very real threat of being lost to time.

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>>39213156
What people are upset about, besides the fangames, is that ZUN apparently just doesn't care about people who want to play his old games without spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on them. People had always thought that there was an unspoken agreement that as long as these games were unobtainable for the masses that ZUN would ignore them, so they feel betrayed even if they entirely imagined said agreement.

[Anonymous No.]

What are the chances this escalates to a nuclear war?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212507
why the fuck did he tell him
an unspoken rule about warez is fine as long as people can turn a blind eye

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care

[Anonymous No.]

>>39213302
>Unobtainable for the masses

Exactly how?

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>>39213345
By being out of print, genius.
And if a game is out of print, it's not like ZUN is going to see a cent of the money going to the greedy resellers anyway.

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>>39213331
Zun is declared emperor of Japan and declares war on China

[Anonymous No.]

>>39213352
Thanks

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>>39213344

Me too

I am here for curiosity

[Anonymous No.]

>>39213345
Touhou 1-5 was being sold on Suruga for over $20k, but even that's not available anymore. I frankly don't even know where you could get the games at this point, and just how expensive they are now.

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>>39213390

The hard thing is find it without a totally bugged text box

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212843
He has two kids and a wife yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212765
He also wasn't married back when Touhou really started to take off

[Anonymous No.]

it means you got recognition from ZUN himself

be proud

[Anonymous No.]

Remember the issue isn't no free touhou games, it's that there may not be a way to get these Touhou games since not everything will be available in the future and we want to fight the sands of time deleting shit as hard as we can

Why are people always like this when it comes to video game preservation but not other forms of preserving media?

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>>39212988
phew, good thing I bought chimatan's game

[Anonymous No.]

>>39213953
Why do you care so much about games bro, they're just a toy lol.
That sort of mentality is one of the few explanations I can think of for why people act like this

[Anonymous No.]

It is irrelevant anyway, the only thing that matters is putting all the fan games on nyaa

[Anonymous No.]

The highest priority is downloading everything off of the shrinemaiden forums and making a torrent for it, and getting people to seed Touhou torrents.

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>>39213953
You have no legal recourse. Thousands of companies issue takedown notices on their pirated content, why does ZUN deciding to go after people stealing from him bother you?

I've never bought a 2hu game, and I never will. But as long as the internet exists in some form, there will be people sharing pirated copies of shit. All that changes is you don't have a gay little central hub with discords and forums that makes it slightly easier to find something, who cares?

[Anonymous No.]

I always thought that ZUN saying that he was okay with people pirating Touhou was fishy. I don't think I've ever seen a source for it, and I've read a sizable amount of ZUN interviews.

So it's pretty possible that he never changed his stance, Moriyashrine just got big enough that he noticed and got pressured enough that he took action.

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>>39213302
Doomtalk aside they're honestly really inexpensive. Seriously. Even with costs of shipping in mind outside of Japan https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%E7%B4%85%E9%AD%94%E9%83%B7%EF%BD%9Ethe-Embodiment-of-Scarlet-Devil%EF%BD%9E/dp/B093ST7PSM

The only thing well and truly lost would be the PC-98 titles.

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>>39214448
>I always thought that ZUN saying that he was okay with people pirating Touhou was fishy.
I would bet great money that's a false assumption from:
1. The derivative nature of the doujin scene and his generally open tolerance of use of the Touhou IP for non-commercial purposes.
2. Lack of response in the past due to apathy regarding the existence of pirate sites, just not worth much headspace to him.

Let's be real here: East or West, unless someone releases something of personal value either under a license that allows re-use or just explicitly says as much, they are likely indifferent at best to unauthorized reproduction, and very unlikely to be so if they are selling it. Japan is less tolerant of unauthorized reproduction, yes, but this opinion is not controversial even if you personally don't bat an eye at pirating (like me).

[Anonymous No.]

tomorrow i'll invent those dmcas

[Anonymous No.]

>>39214529
I was specifically talking about the PC98 titles. Everything else is pretty available so I'm not as upset about those.

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>>39214448
I think at one point he legitimaly was ok with it, like an entire decade ago. Now that Steam is a thing and basically everyone can get a copy officially he'd do the same a normal person on his position would.
>>39214529
Fuck me, I bought pyshical copies from Mercari some weeks ago but EoSD is expensive af in there. Didn't think of checking amazon.

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN is probably only doing it for 2 reasons

A: 15.5 and 17.5 are on there for free
B: Japs could easily go to the site and get the latest entry free of charge even though its on steam and ZUN probably wants them to pay for it.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate ZUN now.

[Anonymous No.]

.>>39214645
>I think at one point he legitimaly was ok with it, like an entire decade ago.
Yeah, that "quote" was regurgitated multiple times since time immemorial, but I've literally never seen anyone provide a source of him saying he was actually okay with piracy. I'm more inclined to say >>39214598 was right and it was just an assumption due to ZUN's extremely lax policies.

[Anonymous No.]

what's the fan content that people are saying was removed from moriyashrine?

[Anonymous No.]

more like uhh mou-ya! shrine lol

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>>39214789
See >>39203732

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>>39214621
There's really so little point in buying them, for so many reasons, but yeah if they got pulled from the internet (hard to imagine, there are too many sources) that'd be some shit

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>>39214663
I think 17.5 might have something to do with it
>Probably sold like absolute garbage
>Probably had more time and money invested dumped into than any other .5, due to development bungling
>Somebody needed something to blame

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>>39214789
It's all the games from 2 circles, because a translator on Twitter saw the DMCA happening for the official game and decided that he'd ask Japanese devs if they want him to send DMCAs on their behalf. 1 of the 2 circles is also one that he's currently working with to translate their game, so you could argue that it was motivated by personal gain as well.

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>>39212507
Will he release all official games on Steam in English?

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>>39214871
It's up in the air but the games are being released digitally in reverse order, with the latest addition being Shoot the Bullet. Tasofro's games, however, have not really seen much uploading which is annoying.
Why it's a little less likely:
9 at least has, or had, online functionality I assume ZUN would want to re-implement, which would be a lot of annoying work potentially.
And there's a distinct lack of source codes.

This is only regarding windows of course.

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>>39214025
It’s not just the official games, retard, that’s not a big deal.
There’s obscure fangames that didn’t have torrents that have a chance of being taken down.

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN has changed.

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN turning into a kike has honestly soured me on touhou as a whole

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>>39214663
I'm really pretty sure he was just approached by grifting lawyers that are smelling blood in the water to make a quick buck with C&D copyright mafia court cases
With how massively popular touhou is, he'd be on the short list

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>>39212587
>I imagine the COVID-19 lockdowns changed ZUN inside.
no it was getting married

[Anonymous No.]

I would like to remind you that it is a moral obligation to repost art from any account that asks you not to repost

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212507
Didn’t Rinnosuke say in CoLA that people who cared too much about moneh were evil?
What does that make you, ZUN san...

[Anonymous No.]

While it sucks that we lost the easiest source of 2hu downloads around, all it means is that we go back to pirating from slightly harder sources.
Funny seeing that it really was all due to someone ratting the site out, by the way, so it al boils down to a failure to gatekeep in the end as expected.

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>>39214962
The kikery has been slowly boiling over (excess merch, mobile games, non indie game collab, publishing to big consoles) and I don't really know what I'd do if it went full consoom and grift like so many other franchises, indie or not.
I want to love his works, but I don't respect any creator who prioritizes copyright law, lawsuits and other faggotry over just making good content to share with the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39214996
Keep pirating his games as most always have

[Anonymous No.]

>Image board hates socialism
>Surprised that when someone becomes capitalistic they try to grab as much bags as he can

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>>39214994
I'm personally far more worried about the possible loss of obscure fangames/music albums/PC-98 stuff. The mainline content is bound to reappear later on. But a lot of older fan content isn't really available anywhere else.

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>>39215015
copyright law should not exist

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>>39215010
Yeah I've always been doing that since I hate digital and importing physical where I live can get very expensive fast even for one item, but I don't think I'll buy things brand new from him when and if I'm able to.

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>>39215054
>Be a creator of something
>Realize that it's actually easy to recreate the shit that you made.
>Get the government to enforce your copyright and ban hammer people who try to replicate or even improve on it.
Basically how capitalism works in practice.

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>>39214996
Wake me up when it actually affects his games.

[Anonymous No.]

He already struck uploads of music CDs on YouTube past a certain album so this is hardly surprising or unique.

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>>39215054
Copyright law should exist but not in the state that it does thanks to Michael Mouse's iron grip.

PC-98 games should be public domain.

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>>39215068
*digital purchases
Should clarify, shit like Steam even if it's useful for creators and consumers is just fucking annoying to deal with and the thought it can be taken away instantly is not reassuring

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>>39215076
>Copyright law should exist but not in the state that it does thanks to Michael Mouse's iron grip.
if copyright law exists then it will inevitably be twisted into the kind of hell we have now
it just shouldn't exist at all, it's too destructive

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>>39215096
how are creators supposed to profit off their work at all then? In this age there's literally nothing stopping anyone from making their own digital copy, and therefore a creator would have no reason to make anything and the market would die.

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>>39215027
At least it looks like ZUN himself isn't trying to take them down, it's mostly the work of a newfag translator on a moral crusade to earn more money by making things harder to obtain.

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>>39215103
UBI

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>>39215074
The games have changed since he hit it big
6-10 feel like he really tried to make the best game he could, there's a real sense of pathos to them
Ever since UFO it's more like
>Think of gimmick
>Maybe it works maybe it won't, I'll just make it and release it anyway
They're still enjoyable but don't have the same ability to connect to people in the way the earlier ones did, that made the Touhou boom in the first place.

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>>39215137
One of the big things that screamed this to me was him getting rid of the watercolors in the endings. Every ending ever since has just felt so cheap in comparison

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>>39215129
Yeah but what if someone wants to live beyond the meager means a UBI would provide, while also being a creative? Is that just not something that could be allowed? Because the lack of a copyright law is certainly discouraging.

>>39215137
I understand he was worn out by the feature creep of IN but I really do wish he'd make a game with at least as much content again. games like LoLK and UM I can salute since his gimmick was at least a new approach to a game but damn I just want IN 2 sometimes.

>>39215123
ZUN took down the links to his shit on Moriya which honestly isn't that big a deal since most of the games are available and you can easily find the others if you aren't stupid but otherwise and with fangames you're right

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>>39215054
"I don't create anything so copyright shouldn't exist" sounds a lot like "I don't have anything to hide so privacy shouldn't exist"
For me it would be enough if copyright law wasn't abused so easily and people like ZUN took care that their creations are actually available somewhere for people to buy legally before nuking archives of them

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really care about the mainline games because I'm not good enough to keep up with shmups anymore. I wouldn't mind buying them on steam if they ever go on sale though to support zun but their prices and lack of bundle is absolute heck. Atleast the indie scene is pretty big although most of them are chinese these days.

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>>39215076
I don't think there's any state copyright law could exist in where it would sufficiently protect the creator and also allow people to pirate freely. The best that can be done really is that it exists, and creators individually choose to look the other way when people break it.

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>>39213035
more like an ideology.

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>>39212507
I hate ZUN now. Over a decade later it's finally over. Congratulations ZUN, his wife and Sony.

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>>39215222
that's a rash reaction to someone protecting their IP, I agree the old games should also be available and that's scummy but that's my only issue. It's fair he takes down every game there that's on Steam.

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>>39215237
>he owns it so he can do whatever he wants with it ;)

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>>39215164
I just think the evils of copyright is out of hand and giving them an inch would just let them take a whole damn mile. I'm sure that some degree of protection of artists and other types should exist though.

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>>39215248
...yes? We only got free 2hu because it wasn't available to us legally.
Now it is.
Things change.

Again, I am not saying he handled it perfectly in regards to older titles but you're being a little shit about it.

>>39215267
I agree it's out of hand but that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist at all. Copyright is really the only thing that can protect artists.

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>>39215279
No thanks, I'll keep hating ZUN. If you like copyright so much then maybe you should go back to your friends on Reddit.

>Things change.
Indeed!

[Anonymous No.]

You can tell the Twitter army has come to defend the happening given the change of tone between the last two threads and this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215222
congratulations ZUN, his wife, and his wife's son

[Anonymous No.]

Nostalgic for the good old days when ZUN loved people illegally downloading his games

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215339
ZUN is completely legally in his right to do this. The only scummy parts are the games that aren't available in any way, same goes for any circle that removes their games without making them available for purchase.

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>>39215339
How many IPs did the last thread have so we can compare and see how big this "army" is

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215367
This poster also defended Nintendo last time they did this.

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>>39215339
I genuinely don't know why people here even care about this aside from the obscure fangames that ought to be getting dealt with if they aren't already available elsewhere. I understand the twitter crowd and their obsessive need to virtue signal and yap about 'drama', but no regular user of this site should be affected by this at all.

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>>39215370

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>>39215387
I don't think Nintendo should have DMCA'd scans of a guidebook that came out 25 years ago that they have no intention of reselling themselves. That's retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215399
But if there's money involved it's perfectly understandable and completely legal, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215389
I care about ZUN becoming a kike.

[Anonymous No.]

You can’t make this shit up. The guy who reported it to ZUN and the doujin circles who made the fangames is now offering his services to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215424
I bet you were mad in 2007.

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>>39215411
Yes, if there is a way for you to purchase something from the company directly in a convenient fashion for a reasonable and appropriate price (in my guidebook example I'd say like it should have been a bonus feature with 3D All Stars or something rather than an individual purchase), it's fine.

It's not like buying a video game is the same as each show you like requiring a different subscription service which is also scummy and while in their right completely inconvenient for any user.

The only arguing point with ZUN's legal methods for us is that it never goes on sale and are a little steep in asking price. But mostly that it never goes on sale.

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>>39215439
I was angry every time another part of the doujin spirit left ZUN.

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>>39215439
why 2007?

[Anonymous !!kvbqSokkW9t No.]

Touhou keeps reclining

[Anonymous No.]

Touhou sucks anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215426
Touhou's a big boy now, there's profit to be made and no room for us old doujin scene dogs anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>39214984
Indeed. I already do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215446
Of course. It's always about the money.
I bet you don't give a thought about pirating music or books though.

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>>39215426
>You can’t make this shit up.
I can and I have.
When I read news about some kind of coalition forming to go after copyright infringement in the west I knew immediately that this shit would happen.
Fags like that are just more grifters jumping on the train.
.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally Touhou can die. Good riddance.

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>>39215489
If there is a means for you to buy it easily and conveniently, you are in the wrong for pirating it.

If you want to play Kirby Air Ride, by all means pirate that shit. But know you're in the wrong for pirating Kirby and the Forgotten Land.

You're legally in the wrong for both but morally in the right for the first one.

[Anonymous No.]

most western touhou fans are terrible people you never want to associate yourself with anyway. the only problem with buying the games is that they are really low effort and overpriced. zun should finally do official translations and port them on a newer non shit engine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215513
This post is so Twitter it hurts. If you want to virtue signal about morality then you need to go back.

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>>39215465
The year ZUN made a company to manage copyright and deal with taxes.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright it's time to drop touhou after 15 years, what does cool otaku kids like nowadays?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215550
You're the one talking about morality saying ZUN is an evil kike for defending his IP.

>>39215556
Chink shit like Genshin and being ironic about everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215563
Go suck corporate cock elsewhere, nigger faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215556
the first thing you'll have to do is erect so many layers of irony that you can't even decide if you like anime at all nor not

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215581
>yes an artist should have the right to what he creates
>f-ffuck you!

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>>39215279
I don't give a shit if he has the right to do so or not, he has obviously always had it and bringing something as obvious as this up is proof that you're an absolute retard. All I know is that I had plans to buy his games eventually, but I no longer do. And I'm going to continue pirating them anyway because one pirate site dying doesn't mean shit, as you'd know if you hasn't been using the internet for a month at most.

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>>39215592
You don't create anything.

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>>39215592
Who are you quoting?

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>>39215592
It's not like people are taking Touhou content and parading it as their own creations. It's people sharing shit they have already bought. Do you think borrowing books is piracy, too?

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>>39212507
This has probably been coming for a while now. Didn't some random Japanese guy file a copyright for Touhou Project and ZUN couldn't fight it?

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN didn't care about baka-gaijin piracy because gaijin were a non-factor. That changed with the Steam release, and he realized he earns more money from that than from the Japanese sales.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ has really been more and more reactionary as time flies, huh?
There's no time to take it easy anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215664
We live in a time of accelerating changes.

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>>39215426
The doujin games that were taken down from Moriya are directly his fault, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215688
We are seeing a new cartel form in real time

[Anonymous No.]

Why do Americans ruin everything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215593
it sounds like this is an issue to you though because if it wasn't you wouldn't be in this thread talking about it. I highly doubt you were planning to buy the games anyways since if you had you'd either maintain those plans or have done it by now.

>>39215604
You're typing on a creation to another creation that shows up on a third creation retard.

>>39215620
Borrowing isn't the same as digital piracy. Letting someone access an account to play a game is, because at least that one account had to buy a copy. Copying is not theft, but it damn sure isn't helping the creator of the property get by. I pirate shit constantly, just downloaded Wario Land 3 last week despite it being on the 3DS eShop, so call me a hypocrite all you want but bitching at ZUN for taking down links to illegal downloads is absurd.

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>>39215710
And call you a hypocrite I will. Don't you care for those programmers at Nintendo not getting their income? They've got families to feed too.

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>>39215710
You don't care about creators. You're only trying to look morally superior on a fucking anonymous website.

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>>39215722
I wouldn't bitch if Nintendo asked that site and also every other site to remove Wario Land 3 the day before I downloaded it so long as there was a cheap and easy way to purchase the game.

>>39215728
I am a creator faggot, and if I saw all of my shit for free to download on a website or stole my art for their profit I'd fight to get it taken down too.

[Anonymous No.]

It is Moriya Shrine's owner's fault. He contacted ZUN, and the only reply ZUN could give is to confirm the take-down notice.
Let the site be hosted somewhere that does not care about DMCA requests, and we return to the status quo.
Of course, all the fan creators are entitled to their profits. If you want good for Touhou, then you would obviously buy their games and thereby support their circles. No money to the doujin circles would mean that Touhou fan content would dry up.

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>>39215746
>I am a creator faggot
no one is buying your shit, and it's not because of piracy

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215664
Really is just part of the times
What I'd do for things to feel like the 2000s again

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215752
you don't even know what my shit is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215768
yeah no one does lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215772
Heh

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>>39215585
Sounds like 2010 /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys think that zun's just not putting as much into touhou anymore?
I mean it'd be obviously expected since he's getting old and crap, has a wife and children now. He might just not have the energy or time anymore to be giga autistic about his own projects like he was in his younger days in college or right afterwards, when he was wagecucking for taito and working on EoSD simultaneously like a maniac. Some reflected that the latest manga and official game works have all gone in weird directions that don't seem very well thought out, and his new music album was also arguably cheap and not properly finished like his other ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215556
The grass is browner on the other side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215705
Reminds me of the time the fat screeching non Japanese landwhales got the Kimono display removed from the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston. Even after the actual Japanese supporters of the exhibit that came from fucking Japan asked the Museum officials not to.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/Ruw
ZUN represented by this guy to be specific. He's been part of ZUN's companies for over 10 years.

[Anonymous No.]

just keep circulating the tapes and do the best you can

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215750
Contacting ZUN himself wasn't really a bad idea given how he used to turn a blind eye to piracy in the past where his games weren't so available, especially after an extremely suspicious DMCA notice and another that was issued from a restaurant. There was a small chance that he'd confirm they were bullshit and let him continue hosting at least the games you can't buy on Steam yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215750
>It is Moriya Shrine's owner's fault.
It is ZUN's fault for sending the DMCA. Are you retarded?

>return to the status quo
There's no returning to how ZUN was in the past now.

>No money to the doujin circles would mean that Touhou fan content would dry up.
People don't make doujin games for profit. Money or not they're going to be made. That's how it always was for ZUN and Touhou as well. If they won't make them because there's no money to be made then it isn't doujin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215813
Jew

[Anonymous No.]

all the fucking entitled manchildren in this thread holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215705
Seems Reddit Touhou's server and TouhouWiki are involved to an extent.
https://twitter.com/DSlayer415/status/1509263310910214144

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215750
Direct downloads to the content was also kind of retarded on their part, had they gotten a DMCA but not actually host the files they wouldn't even have to bother.
There's a reason piracy sites host in shitholes...
>>39215801
The music album is understandable since he hurried for Comiket in-person again after the lockdowns, but yeah I agree with everything else.
There's a lot of little things I think he could improve on, especially if he wants to branch out farther like he keeps trying to. Without turning it into a nitpick list I'll say it feels like the Gamefreak of dojin works.
>>39215813
If you look up other DMCA in the companies name you'll see it's kind of overzealous with weird shit like Google results

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215845
Fuck off H*ckanai

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215845
Astroturf somewhere else holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215849
>making an entire twitter account just to virtue signal
Why

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215517
>zun should finally do official translations
This. If he doesn't bother enough to hire a translator for his games I shouldn't bother getting the game legitimately. He doesn't give a shit about western fans a.k.a gaijin.

[Anonymous No.]

You faggots deserve this after defending ZUN cancelling Touhou Super Smash Battles.
Sweet irony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215904
Hello Fromsoysauce, long time no see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215849
As I said, Americans ruin everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215888
He's fine with fan patches though. He said people would probably complain about the official translation which is probably true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215813
So he was the one who filed the DMCA takedown?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215807
Dunno, vtubers look fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215825
Touhou stuff has to be financed. Lack of financing is why projects like the Memories of Phantasm anime are always at threat of having their circles disband.
ZUN and Tasofro also need financing to make new games and support their lifestyle. Doujin or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215931
DMCA 1 - anonymous
DMCA 2 - Ruw / Korindo Tld
DMCA 3 and 4 - HakanaiBlue

[Anonymous No.]

Aren't there still a lot of 2hu games missing from steam? zun is doing a really half assed job despite steam makes it super easy to sell his games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215945
If you enjoy gossiping like middle school girl, sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215947
Then clearly Touhou is now a commercial product. Long gone are the days of creating things out of love instead of out of greed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215979
Look on the bright side, an actual offical tohoe anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215978
I love JC

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215990
That sounds fucking vile

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215928
That's not the point. The point is that ZUN is putting minimal effort in marketing his game to a western audience. How can he get mad that westerns are pirating his games (especially the first 6 games when he can't even give a rat's ass about releasing translations or giving his western fans any method whatsoever to buy the games legitimately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216048
>especially the first 6 games
He doesn't even have the source code for the games before SA. He expects the filthy gaijin to pay a shitload of money buying the PC98 games and then pay another shitload of money in shipping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216084
>He expects the filthy gaijin to pay a shitload of money buying the PC98 games and then pay another shitload of money in shipping.
Yeah, exactly. Us westerners are getting the shittier end of the stick and everybody says we should just accept it. There are cuckolds ITT that are defending this

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216048
To be fair it's an English site but it's not like there's a keep out sign on the door.
People from the places where the games are freely available and translated can access it all the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215959
ZUN didn't DMCA any fangame, it was all that one translator's doing. He only issued the takedowns for official content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216116
>not like there's a keep out sign on the door.
There should be. They should block Japanese IPs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216048
The problem is that not all the games are on steam. Translations are irrelevant.
DMCAing the PC-98 games is just taking the piss.

[Anonymous No.]

What a pathetic thread. No I'm not going to hate touhou or ZUN just because you claim ZUN became a kike or wants to steal our money. It's unfortunate for Moriya to go down but we can reach a rational conclusion that he doesn't want something as ambitious as 17.5 being shared this early. This board and 4chan as a whole are so bitter and demoralized that it's insane.
I just bought 17.5 on steam out of spite, kill yourselves. If you actually care, seed the complete pack torrent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216145
Bootlicker

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215979
Touhou is not very profitable. If you want to create something out of greed, there are plenty of bandwagons for you to hop on.
And if you want to create something out of love, you can do so under ZUN's guidelines that have existed for an eternity.
I don't see how not allowing his stuff to be pirated goes against "doujin spirit". It is not like you can't continue to pirate his stuff on other platforms. The people that have the hands in these DMCAs are people of other doujin circles and ZUN was likely just advised to send Moriya a DMCA for whatever reason. The admin of Moriya Shrine was at fault because he set his site up in a way that he would have to respond to such a request while another platform like Nyaa wouldn't have to give a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN being a jew meant 18 came out at midnight. The whole community both east and west playing the game at the same time was nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216145
>This board and 4chan as a whole are so bitter and demoralized that it's insane.
you realize this many many many years later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216145
Sure owned me shillpost. Let me boot my pirated copy of 17.5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215979
Touhou has always been a commercial product, retard. Just because he lets people do their own shit with it doesn't change that.

[Anonymous No.]

Not that I am advocating it, but there was a time when shit like this would have resulted in srs business and all the busy ness that went with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>Bootlicker
>>39216172
I'm so rich off of cryptocurrency that I'm going to buy a second copy out of spite

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216145
>we can reach a rational conclusion
The only conclusion I can reach is that ZUN doesn't care about his western fans. Those games have been there for MANY years, but now it's suddenly and issue.
If not for piracy, Touhou wouldn't have an audience in the west.
>I just bought 17.5 on steam out of spite
Literally no one gives a shit about how you spend your money.
>seed the complete pack torrent
I've been doing that since I learned about the situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216185
buy all the games on steam for me if you are so rich then mr money bags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216145
>buying things out of spite
You should really be more mindful of your money, anon...
>>39216190
Check the other thread, there's an archive of a lot of fangames last updated around 2018 that could use a bit more seeds as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216185
Wow, you sure showed us anons.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there no end in feeling like a total fucking clown 24/7 for being a western Touhou fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216145
>he doesn't want something as ambitious as 17.5 being shared this early
Wait, it STILL doesn't have a physical release? For fuck's sake, Tasofro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216163
It goes against the doujin spirit because ZUN is now going against his fans who (used to) love him and his series just because they aren't giving him money. It's always about the money.

>>39216180
What changes is his purpose of making the games in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216207
Western Touhou fan doesn't make anything worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216216
That changed 10 years ago.
He's not going against fan content and has only DMCA'd his own games. The other guy is contacting circles to DMCA their own illegal download links.

The Doujin spirit is in tact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216145
I'm not mad about ZUN, I'm mad about this motherfucker >>39215688

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216218
That's how it should stay. Instead, western Touhou fans (and newfags who are trying to become fans) keep making trans-validation game jams and translating games for a quick cash then spamming DMCAs because they think it's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216218
Learn English before posting

[Anonymous No.]

inb4 ZUN hires some shady anti-p2p company that act like wannabe /i/nsurgents playing with tracker tools and then everything gets really fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216218
They made a cool fangame and a few doujin albums

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216238
I refuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216228
There's no doujin left in ZUN anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216236
>Be ZUN
>See tranny game jams, grifters, and twitter freaks as the majority of your 'audience' in the west
Wouldn't you shut it down too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216216
>It's always about the money.
That's the part that doesn't make sense. I can't buy a copy of EoSD from him, and if I buy second hand her earns nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216207
Learn Japanese 馬鹿外人

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216240
I bet ZUN didn't even know about MS, he only sent the takedowns because people kept reporting the site (as he said in the e-mail). I don't think, or at least hope he'll never get to the same levels of psychosis about getting rid of all piracy as some of the people who keep trying to kill sadpanda every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216209
No, it's just a large installment in the franchise being distributed somewhere as readily as Moriya. It's a disappointment to me but the doomposting and hatred of this thread is symptomatic of how demoralized and pessimistic the board has become. Everyone only talks about how bad things are rather than making a difference.
>>39216205
I'm very conservative with my money overall, need to uninstall ubereats though that shit is gonna kill me

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216218
Yeah, they just regurgitate outdated /jp/ memes and buy bootleg fumos lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216207
Just be a Touhou fan, no need to associate with the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216253
He can't shut down those games even if he wants to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216185
Thanks for the Tenshi I just saved this on my PC

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216266
>Everyone only talks about how bad things are rather than making a difference.
Yeah, it's not like people are downloading every fangame they can find to later distribute on nyaa.

[Anonymous No.]

2HU IS JAPANESE PEOPLE ONLY
GET OVER IT, GAIJINPIGS

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216298
This is the most sensible answer since the creation of /jp/, just learn japanese. The west is cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216315
Too easy

[Anonymous No.]

is it impossible now to catch a break with all these things happening?
when will it ever end and taking it easy becomes even remotely possible again

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216298
If 2hu is for Japanese only then western fans shouldn't be obligated to pay for the games. We clearly aren't part of the targeted audience. There is no harm done, right? Just like the poor men and women in Kenya or Tanzania pirating western movies en masse. They'll never get the chance to purchase them legitimately

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216306
Westerners aren't part of the potential buyers like Japanese people are. It's okay, dude. Pirate all you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216333
Easy taking is already dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216294
I mean to say the majority, not people who choose to make a difference, even if the delusional majority does not. I will seed those fangames when I'm free.
>>39216333
Taking it easy is a mindset and choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216333
The phrase is take it easy, not give it easy. You have to take your easy from the uneasy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216334
Why, Touhou games are made available to westerners on steam. In what way are they privileged in Japan? They have to follow the same rules as we do, and it is even stricter for them since there is no language barrier that puts them in a dead angle. Of course it is unfortunate that games that are not available also needed to be taken down, but it seems that he could only go full-out in this situation. But I don't see why ZUN would not release his early windows games should he have the capability.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone who shills a permission culture is your enemy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216390
>Touhou games are made available to westerners on steam
Not all of them.
>In what way are they privileged in Japan?
Being able to go to comiket and buy it directly from ZUN, or buy used/borrow from a friend.
>I don't see why ZUN would not release his early windows games should he have the capability.
Yeah, it's a complete mystery why he didn't release Hopeless Masquerade.

[Anonymous No.]

Hakanai says he isn't responsible for snitching, only for taking down the fangame links
https://twitter.com/HakanaiBlue/status/1509276707282468864

[Anonymous No.]

I just don't want to pay for it, 15 bucks is way too much and if you're buying the entire series in bulk that goes to over a hundred. Maybe if it were like 5 bucks per game, that seems a little more reasonably priced for a kusoge like Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216291
Stay strong, otaku king

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216446
damage control

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN is a cock sucking alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216449
>Touhou
>Kusoge
13 sure but the rest gtfo

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216446
Don't care. Still a piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216145
Brave

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216446
stop defending yourself Hakanai

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216455
>>39216473
He wishes to clear up the confusion regarding the DMCA (he says it alot desu)

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216446
I'm glad I learned Japanese and don't have to rely on a cunt like him who relies on crowdfunding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216170
/jp/ has had it especially bad since the hololive blunder began

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216496
>>39216493

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216493
I'm not Hakanai, I still hate that faggot
>>39216496
forgot link
https://twitter.com/HakanaiBlue/status/1509314155987324929

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216509
How dense can he be to not realize he's been shitted on exactly for the very last thing he said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216509
"politely asked"
You DMCA'd moriya, you mean. Why is it that pricks like to dance around words like this?

[Anonymous No.]

Zun is a bitch AND a homo

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216501
Yeah. Choke out the competition by dmcing games while asking for crowdfunding to translate touhou games. Then acting holier-than-thou about it on twitter. Playing dirty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215072
>government-enforced restrictions are free market
I don't care who says otherwise, intangible bullshit like IP is not capital.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215103
>In this age there's literally nothing stopping anyone from making their own digital copy, and therefore a creator would have no reason to make anything and the market would die.
That's not how pirating works, and most copyright exists to separate creators from their work so that some other business can own it instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215705
anon you have excess oxytocin and are thus unwilling to blame the person primarily responsible for this situation (ZUN)

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216145
>"I don't know how piracy works, please rape my face"

[Anonymous No.]

Hormone
It can cause or strengthen labor contractions during childbirth, and control bleeding after childbirth. It can also be used to induce abortion. Huh live and learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215103
how are creators supposed to profit off their work at all then?
Ask GOG, they have no protection against piracy and they're still in business. Or ask the people who made games like Cyberpunk 2077 and RE Village, both of which sold extremely well even though pirated copies exist (and the pirated version of Resident Evil is better than the legit one)

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216446
Why should I take the word of someone directly involved and profiting with this situation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216626
You choose to misunderstand that his spite targets the demoralized angry crowd who wishes for us to hate Touhou or ZUN,

[Anonymous No.]

>>39213156
Nyaa is going down next, screenshot this post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216710
Again? I wonder what domain name we'll get next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216710
It already went down once in the past. This is not the same Nyaa from 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216729
>>39216733
I suggest NyaaOppai next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216710
One of the beast's heads was cut off, and two more formed in its place

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216741
let's try NyaaOppaiLoli next when that goes down too

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get it. This only makes it marginally harder to get the games should they are obtained in a non-legal manner for rational or nonrational reasons. It's not that much of a leap to get it to a point afterwards to get the said game patched in your language of choice. Are you telling me people are lazy or not knowledgeable enough nowadays that this is a big deal given the focus is on the drama between nobodies on Twitter and not around ZUN's decision to DMCA?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216710
If Nyaa is going to go down it wont be because of god damn touhou but the countless other pirated stuff on there

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216572
Anything can be made into capital baby. We're in a post-modern, bitcoin era.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216911
At least bitcoin has the capacity to be around without others enforcing its existence for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216762
Nyaapantsu got abandonned

[Anonymous No.]

I was honestly wondering when someone was going to try and become the fakku of 2hu. That's what this smells like to me, anyway. I'd be happy to be wrong but that's probably where this is going, in time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216437
>Being able to go to comiket and buy it directly from ZUN, or buy used/borrow from a friend.
If you want a physical version of the game, you can do that from Akiba Hobby, Melonbooks, and dozens of different proxy services that will buy and ship around the world for you.
If you want to 'get physical' with ZUN, that's a different story and might need to.. gasp, go to Japan.

Also, to the people who pirate the games, don't dare to call yourselves fans. Have at least a minimum of decorum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217011
Who are you to say who can and can't call themselves a fan of a series based on who spends money? CEO of gay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217011
Sorry but I just pirate my physical contact with ZUN too.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.wired.com/2003/06/orrin-hatch-software-pirate/

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217011
>if you don't spend your money, you can't call yourself a fan.

that's pretty jew of you, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217084
God, don't pirate that. Sex workers deserve money too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217011
I find it funny that the people who say these kind of things are the same people against gatekeeping trannies and faggots from 2hu

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217011
>decorum
Decorum over indie shoot em ups made by an alcoholic lolicon who draws things on mspaint? Get over yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216982
Well, he's asking people to give him money to translate touhou stuff so...

[Anonymous No.]

It sounds like a good time to save translations of print works on the wiki while we still have a chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>want to make a fan 2hu game for a while now
>now this happens
everything in this era is cursed. why cant we just have fun times back? it pains me

[Anonymous No.]

What fangames have been taken down so far?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217285
>>39203732
According to a few people, most of them have been recovered

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217011
This is your brain on consumerism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217011
i have 1cc's that makes me more of a fan than all your money combined

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212507
>zun turning into a jew now
not everyone is immune to greed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212507
Top 10 anime betrayals

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217137
There are no gay in gensokyo.
What's the problem with trannies creating their own doujin and fanfics?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216982
No, that's actually a good point. Smells the exact same way

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone understand why trannies suddenly think piracy is right-wing? what the fuck is going on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218071
>how to spell "touhou" in romaji
TOHO?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218071
anyway what bold-faced lying, it's impressive. AFiEU was about Trump, not fans. Why would ZUN mock fans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218071
Bringing this shit to the west was a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218143
Wasn’t it about western media in general? And clickbait/misrepresentations of truth?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218154
Sorta, mostly just Trump and Trump's policies.

[Anonymous No.]

I regret going through twitter
https://twitter.com/Himarsaka_Arts/status/1438200710127104004

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218071
Good localization is right wing too according to these bunch, so I wouldn't take any opinion seriously someone who shoves a rod inside their fistula. They want you miserable just like them, so they'll label things as wrong for the sake of it hoping you'll feel shame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218174
Send this to ZUN

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218071
>get with the times
Meaning? That everything the West touches becomes shit, be it either Trumplets or Troons...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218245
That's more American than anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218174

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218242
why would he care

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218174
https://twitter.com/blkyuugi/status/1509244964663963658

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217276
We can't have fun times back. The best we can do it try and make new fun times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218315
S-sumireko..

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218333
We should just make a new internet and gatekeep it extremely hard, then we can look back on the current state of the net like how people looked at cable years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216145
>>39216170
he should have realized it 7 years ago when moot ditched this shit site, i don't know what he's still doing here trying to be reasonable on the hololive nuclear waste dump board

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218360
Gatekeep too hard without a means of getting more people in and you risk having a dead ghost town. There's no optimal solution.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215849
Ah this guy, that pussy who is the only one in Reddit cheering for the DMCA and when he realized everyone is down voting his he deleted his comment

[Anonymous No.]

This is so depressing. First the tlmc guy dropping out for a while because he's in the wrong country and IRL shit came to him, now this western "fan" anti-piracy push. I hate it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218397
It’s an intuitive balance that you come to understand after a while
You probably know it yourself, don’t you, no matter how ineffable it seems

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218071
One thing that really puzzles me is how every single person like this is extremely passive-aggressive. It's like they're too cowardly to directly insult people so they keep saying things in a roundabout way like that, which end up making them sound at least twice as annoying, and they're probably proud of that too because it gives them more attention than if they were just honest. Not that I expect any of those people to know how to be honest in first place.
By the way, you're most likely here too, you twitter abomination. I'll be praying that you suffer a very strong, but not lethal amount of internal bleeding the next time you stick a dildo up your anus. Just enough to inconvenience you for the rest of your life, causing you to regret writing that post and anything you said on twitter regarding this matter every time you go wipe your ass after shitting and your toilet paper is completely red. Please get as literally butthurt as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember to help out the other thread (and the upcoming Gensokyo Archival Project) if it gets started so we can make sure that downloads to the media don't get lost to time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212507
Bye bye it was a fun 4 years. Now 2hu are for mobile gatcha losers

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218489
>It's like they're too cowardly to directly insult people
I doubt that's it. In real life sure but on the internet they'll be as dickish as they'd like. I'm pretty sure its just them thinking of themselves as highly intelligent and typing in a smug manner as a result. After all, they're infallible and anyone who speaks against them is some evil Trump nazi.

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN was in the right. Maybe don't pirate shit from independent people and actually support the things you like, fucktards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218614
No thanks, I'll pirate from anyone I want at any time, and only buy games from people I deem worthy of my money afterwards, whether they're small developers or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218614
I'm not going to pirate, I'm just gonna rob your house.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39214025
You have only somewhat of a point for being suck a fucking dick cyst. The maingames have enough following to be preserved and stored. But anything hosted with no one to care for it will be lost. It's almost analogous again with piracy and theft in the physical world: shit that goes uncared for gets lost

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218665
>>39218693
You will never be a real fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218755
Post 1cc chart

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218755
You will never be a real woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>39214984
I am not obligated to you nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218755
>Must.... CONSOOOOOM!
Being a fan of something is not related to how much dosh you've spent, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

i like baseball

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218755
I'm much more of a fan that you will ever be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215517
I can respect this opinion, I agree with this opinion. If you want to make your busy official, give official products to every market (aka translations)

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218826
why

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218868

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215772
Anon are you retarded? Like are you genuinely pristinely retarded? Ever had a thought in your mind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218071
Why are you making this about trannies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215849
Fuck that shithead, here's the important part

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>>39215979
Anon those "le good ol days" where the days before probably even the bronze age. By the times of Ancient greece the idea of markets and products was already there. You have a idealised fantasy that does not exist commonly in reality.

Love and profit are in a society almost always mingling, yet not always.

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>>39218315
>>39218174
>both 20+ age already riddled with mental illnesses
jesus christ what the fuck is happening with americas education system.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218888
The person who tweeted that is trans and I can't imagine them posting it if they weren't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218984
>The person who tweeted that is trans
Who the fuck cares?
>and I can't imagine them posting it if they weren't
Sounds like a you problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218920
I'm talking about doujin games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218920
Fuck off kike

[Anonymous No.]

>>39218920
Fuck off you pseudointellectual faggot. Not everyone does things solely for the sake of money and social credit. You'd know this if you've ever actually created anything in your life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216264
Just kill the pandamakers ez pz

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216572
Anon, capital is almost entirely intangible "bullshig" you absolute monkey waste

[Anonymous No.]

>>39219231
>person who say thing me no like must be in the position me no like
>>39219454
Seethe. But more importantly learn how to read, I did not say that things are made solely for monetary or social gain, im saying it is extremely rare to see things being done solely by this abstract "artistic impulse". Which you could have understood if you could read.

Which you can't.

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>>39220033
>person who say thing me no like must be in the position me no like
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215137
games did feel different after ufo, but zun still felt normal after for some time.

But the past like half decade, I really dont know. Not even just the games but his twitter its like he's such a different person now. He used to be modest, quirky, funny, and have introsight. Now it just seems like he's made new friends and honestly they've changed him. He's still sometimes quirky, but, he doesnt post like the zun who create the birb I've loved for over a decade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215478
pretty much tbdesu after roblox kids found out about it and 1000'xed the tertiary fanbase

but hey, become fumo rite xDDDDDDD so original

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215426
I mean /jp/ is no one's army but it'd be a horrendous turn of events if that faggot's twitter was reportbombed enough for instaban

[Anonymous No.]

if zun had to be such a greedy jew why doesnt he just release an nft and let the retards eat that shit up. He'll get his money, he doesnt need to cuck us with games and the twitter retards can throw their money into his pocket. Everyone's happy then and zun can go on to living in hollywood or whatever the fuck his jew ass wants

[Anonymous No.]

just wait till zun starts charging circle licensing fees to make cds and games :DDDDDD

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217011
ive taken dumps that are bigger primary touhou fans than you nigger

[Anonymous No.]

It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215426
i dont see this tweet

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216145
It's not like anyone's going to play the dumpsterfire that is 17.5 even if it's free.
In a way I agree though, deleting every copy and mention of this disaster of a game from the internet and pretending it never happened would be the best course of action for ZUN and Tasofraud.

[Anonymous No.]

Hakanai posts a pastebin explaining his situation
https://mobile.twitter.com/HakanaiBlue/status/1509467267196727299
>>39220856
https://mobile.twitter.com/HakanaiBlue/status/1508925591877267457

[Anonymous No.]

>>39217011
This is the most fucking twatter post I've ever seen today, kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39221165
https://pastebin.com/ha7kjXKT

[Anonymous No.]

>>39221165
Now also post the images where he was attempting to get involved with fangame translations in the past years in the past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39221235
I honestly never heard of what you're talking about as I never heard of this faggot until when Hina's game came out, so it would be great if you elaborated

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>>39221096
The art isn't half bad I guess? I remember Kogasa's sprite dancing on one leg looking cute.
>>39221213
Completely hypocritical the way he subtlely rephrases everything to deflect blame. He claims not to "profit" from translations, then follows up with his Patreon income. What does he think people pay him for? He also has a negative stance on piracy, but supports secondhand selling as if an unrelated third party being paid for ZUN's work is somehow inherently better than nobody getting paid.

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>>39217011
>dozens of different proxy services that will buy and ship around the world for you.
Japanese people don't have to pay exorbitant shipping fees, and there's no risk for them for the game to get stuck in customs. Not to mention that some people are from third world countries, making the disparity in price is even bigger.
>go to Japan.
Japanese people also don't have to spend a ton of money in a plane ticket.
>to the people who pirate the games, don't dare to call yourselves fans
Yeah, not like ten years ago the only way to realistically get the games was through piracy.
Also, if you think you need to spend money to become a fan, then the idiots who spend hundreds of dollars in that gacha garbage are bigger fans than the guys who have multiple 1CCs.

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>>39221326
You can tell it has some sort of mental disease just by the way it types. Translator? more like Trans-later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39221360
>gacha garbage
I heard yet another fucking one was released.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39221213
>I've never dmca'd anything, I just contacted people that would file dmca claims after I talked to them

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>>39221213
This whole thing is worded in such a scummy way it's farcical. He says he gets the logic behind piracy being a service issue but then states not long after that the creators of physical-only fangames will see rampant piracy & not want to market their games. Does he not understand that people will be more incentivized to pirate if the games aren't available? People will always pirate the games but like Gabe Newell said, it's largely an accessibility problem.

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>>39221213
Piracy is wrong, but doing translations off of omission (profiting off of other people's work without explicit permission) is okay though? You don't get to have it both ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39221386
He's already kiking with the best of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>39221273
It's in this very thread.
>>39215688
He's trying to pull a fakku on the entire Touhou franchise in the west and become the sole "paid actor" through whom all will circulate.

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>>39221213
>I put out an open offer for Touhou fangame circles, saying that if they wanted their content removed from the Moriya Shrine, they could reach out to me and I would contact them and ask on their behalf.
>I never dmca'd anything
Death to westoid kikes.

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>>39221441
>Piracy is wrong
It isn't. There is no such thing as a "lost sale". It is free advertisement.

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>>39221213
What an egotistical douche, holy shit.

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>>39221570
Read the thread. In the pastebin he is saying piracy is wrong but going on about how he doesn't make money from sales, despite taking commissions for translations.
While I personally don't care, you don't get to hold the moral high ground making money off of someone else's work and say that piracy is wrong in the same breath.

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>>39221386
>>39221544
I think what he meant by DMCA is the actual legal email that would be sent to Cloudflare, because he just took them down by talking to the admins. Although, he is still a shitbag for openly inviting them to help them take it down

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>>39221213
>--Some of the English patches provided with the games on there are gone now! (like Fantasy Explorer Nitroid)

>Sorry -- that isn't something I considered when asking for the games to be removed. I hope that someone in the community has those files and can share them (just the patch, preferably, since you can easily buy Nitroid from Desunoya's Booth page).

At this point, it feels very scummy. There could be more circles going through him to nuke others and he wouldn't have given a shit about English patches being lost.

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>>39217011
wow
what an absolute shit take you have there
good god
you are literally making this place all the more impossible to take it all easy
please
just leave because you really do not have any shred of awareness of the whole thing

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>>39215794
Sounds based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39221868
>There could be more circles going through him to nuke others
Or he could just be making claims up, it's not like anyone will bother to check his claims and get in touch with circles personally.

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>>39220423
yea man
why is it impossible now to just catch a break and take it easy
a nice and slow life where shit like this doesn't pop up every second

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>>39221966
Consolidation of power and control structures. Everything you see and do is to be regulated by them first before you are to be allowed to interact with it in any fashion. Ideally there will be no interaction at all, you will be fed scraps and pay as much as possible for them. The end goal is to create a system in which you are absolutely powerless, have nothing and have no way to ever have anything. This is exactly why it is becoming more and more difficult to simply relax and enjoy the things you enjoy. By continuing to live your life as you are, even if you are not resisting it actively, you are becoming a resisting element. As it becomes more and more difficult to download and preserve doujin works, music, games or fangames, you will resort to more and more elaborate means of acquisition and preservation and the powers that be want people like you to disappear.

[Anonymous No.]

What a year.
I had a weird feeling the fandom would be taking a nosedive after stumbling across dozens of post-post-ironic Nazrin rat memes and deep fried fumos.

What a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39222082
man
i do not want to talk about such topics
just makes me see that something in humanity is wrong and causes everything to be what it is now
i just want a stress free life where it's actually possible to just live like how you would want with little issues whatsoever
is it nearly an impossibility in this era?

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>>39222183
Certainly not on the internet and doubly so for 4chan where everything negative is magnified. Unless if you cut yourself off from the internet and take up some remote hobby like outdoor hiking, then maybe.

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>>39221165
>>39221213
Didn't read, don't care. Still going to DMCA every single one of his pages (already filed two for Youtube and Patreon, hope they won't just dismiss it) just because he's a massive faggot trying to stir up some shit and acting like some kind of authority figure while being literal who with 0 contributions to the community.
Also going to inform every circle he's working with that he's a kiddy diddler.
>>39222116
Don't worry, friend, western civilization will collapse any day now and twitter animals will have better things to worry about than shitting up some niche doujin shmup community.

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>>39222183
It's difficult, but depending on where you are located and what resources are at your disposal, it may be possible to simply persist happily, but eventually you will still begin to notice how difficult it is to get something done that you could do ten years ago effortlessly from the standpoint of availability and reliability. The best thing I can recommend is to become a literal dragon hoarder of things that you value and invest into backing them up routinely. I detest having to do these things, like, I believe, any sane human being would and should, but apparently there's entire movements dedicated to turning the world into a massive police/surveillance state that wholeheartedly believe it is for our own good.

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>>39222253
If you're going to that much effort to spite him, you don't need to make up shit when there's plenty of factual ammunition against him already.
>>39222262
Where does one begin with dragon hoarding things? I assume you start off with saving everything you come across, but how do you approach stuff like downloading things in bulk? Its a new world to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39222330
You can begin with this.
https://hydrusnetwork.github.io/hydrus/

[Anonymous No.]

>>39222374
Thank you. Funny enough another anon already gave me that same link earlier today. I'm slowly trying to get the hang of it. One thing I'm having trouble with is does it support Danbooru translation notes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39222435
>does it support Danbooru translation notes
I highly doubt that, you would have to add your own.

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>>39221213
Does this guy not understand that a takedown request IS a DMCA for all logical intents and purposes?

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>>39222471
Damn. That was my biggest concern. I really wanted to be able to save Touhou doujins that aren't typeset on the panda from there. Still a very handy tool though especially for those artists that post exclusively on Twitter.

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>>39222374
Also, not this anon, but once you start getting over 1TB or so I'd recommend looking into setting up a RAID array. Even a software one will do (mdraid is fairly reliable, as is ZFS), but you really do not want a disk failure taking out your data once you go past a certain amount.

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>>39222542
This is very valuable advice, so everyone interested in preservation should heed this. No matter how vigilant you may be, no one is protected from hard drive failure, especially today.

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>>39221868
The worst part about it is that it is like stabbing a fellow translator in the back, removing their hardwork of someone who selflessly contributed to the community and the only thing that prevents it from disappearing is the faint hope that someone downloaded it and saved it before he carelessly nuked it.

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>>39222511
Either he does & is simply rewording things to support his side or he is legitimately retarded. Given his behaviour I'd imagine it's the first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39222585
I'm putting my bet on both.

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>>39222253
absolutely based

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>>39222635
I'm thinking he knows exactly what he's doing by continuously appearing to maintain a benevolent facade and employing extremely slippery rhetoric to obfuscate the fact that he contradicts himself multiple times and push his narrative. All what he's written down is an appeal to emotion and manipulation as well as whataboutism, if you sever the niceties and pleasantries and feelgoodery from what he wrote the following can be gleaned.

>He worked on translations of games that were hosted on one or more websites
>He repeatedly refers to "Moriya Shrine" as a "pirate website" even though that is not its actual reason for existence nor its focus, that is a use of denotative language to create a narrative, in the mind of someone ignorant of the topic at hand this will create a mental image of hackers, thieves and other undesirables operating it for the purposes of disseminating illegal things
>He took money for translation commissions of the content that was hosted on those "pirate websites" and undoubtedly made money from them after having downloaded the games from them, unless we can explicitly verify that he had ordered and purchased genuine copies to begin his translation work on them
>He now seeks to facilitate the takedown process of translated content or content otherwise hosted and at the same time offering his services as a translator and bridge between communities separated by a language barrier
One has to be blind not to see what he's trying to do.

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>>39222740
Couldn't've said it better myself. According to posts he's made in the Touhou Project Discord (reddit tier place I know but I was curious) he sometimes works with fangame developers to translate their games into English. He never claims to make money off the games themselves, & doesn't even bring up patreon/ko-fi that often but he definitely makes substantial money through those donations.

His claim that it's done out of good will is complete bogus; even if he likes Touhou & wants to aid people his interest is largely monetary seeing how he actively makes polls & takes commissions for what people want translated, in a sense checking to see what would earn him the most profit from eager fans who are willing to pay. In one case, where a developer didn't respond to an inquiry for translation, he gave up, presumably because he wouldn't have been able to drum up enough donator interest. He's clearly trying to corner the market, or at least turn a substantial profit by acting as a community bridge, as you said.

Sorry for the shitty image compilation, but I wanted to show some of what he's said to back up what I've written.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215556
Elona is always free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215845
ty też ziomuś

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>>39223770
Is it fully translated yet? I heard it's still getting updates and I don't like getting filtered by moonrunes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39224943
If a few misplaced dialogue boxes filter you so hard, how do you even manage to play most doujin games

[Anonymous No.]

Someone please give a summary of what's going on. ZUN sending DMCA notices around?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39225249
A newcomer translator brown noses his way into a few doujin games
Starts snitching on Moriyashrine's uploads that have been around for two decades
Tries to play the moral highground for it while also using it to white knight himself to other doujin game devs to translate their work

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212991
>he's done this in the past
When?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39224943
Almost all of Ano's Fanfiction get translated right after he post new version. Elona + is the game with a great community.

[Anonymous No.]

what if he's just trying to gatekeep touhou really hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>39225938
Then he's going about it the wrong fucking way.

[Anonymous No.]

touhou is trans and valid

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>>39218895
I'm glad he took that suggestion about hosting in a different manner. I emailed them about that and I'm sure many others did as well.
Here is to hoping the shrine lives on and fuck da law!!!!1
>>39221213
His whole shit started because he said he would help circles legally take down files. MS admins wouldn't bother otherwise. He is such a nasty little snake, fucking lolcow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215556
One Piece is dying, anime has been shit for a decade, everything is about Hololive and vtubers now

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226177
so that's why it's killing itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226210
>anime has been shit for a decade
Friendly reminder that UGUUU insects art style was a thing.
Friendly reminder that Kugimiya Rie tsundere schlock was a whole fucking genre.
Friendly reminder that H*ruhi was the biggest thing ever at some point.
Friendly reminder one manga page per episode + entire seasons worth of fillers was the standard for shonen adaptations.

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>>39226177
that's the worst thing desu.
Moriya getting DMCA is irrelevant, literally the first torrent on nyaa has all the games. They didn't panic delete all the fangames and two or three that got pulled due to the autist gaslighting the devs can probably be acquired elsewhere. The thing that makes me sad is all the troons coming out to ruin 2hu.
It might be old news but it's the first time i bothered to look at touhou twitter so it's news to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226363
Anon stop you can't just point that the sea of shit with a few worthwhile things emerging from it always existed

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226363
Friendly reminder that you could find a hidden gem among that pile of shit. But now, it's all shit, so shit that they had to resurrect dead franchises and do sequels because they are unable to create a good new franchise

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226615
>you could find
Implying you actually found anything and didn't just binge through all the classics cherrypicked for you by those who had to suffer through countless trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226744
>Implying you actually found anything and didn't just binge through all the classics cherrypicked for you by those who had to suffer through countless trash.
For well over a decade I watched 15-20 seasonal anime per season, until I dropped them completely 3 years ago because of how shit the entire industry became

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226279
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226846
Watch Precure if you want to see elementary school girls use Majin Buu's extinction beam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226846
How would you say its changed? I don't follow seasonals or news/drama enough to really get a picture of it, but if I could take a guess it would just be rehashing the same genres over and over again that's made a lot of the series pumped out today bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226846
My condolences. It's a miracle that you managed to defeat your shit addiction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226846
>watch lots of shitty anime
>Wtf anime sucks now!
Dude

[Anonymous No.]

Early april fool's joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>39212988
>>39214007
Trash turdhu

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226363
>Friendly reminder one manga page per episode + entire seasons worth of fillers was the standard for shonen adaptations.
That wouldn't have been a problem if most filler wasn't shit tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226846
There was not a single season ever that had 20 watchable shows unless you have the lowest of standards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39226846
>For well over a decade I watched 15-20 seasonal anime per season, until I dropped them completely 3 years ago because of how shit the entire industry became
I dipped sometime after 2017-2018. At the time, many of the shows were almost telling the same story with different twists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39232619
You're both right. I never had much tolerance for garbage so I didn't check out more than a couple episodes of alot of shows back then, but nowadays I don't even bother with that. The trash somehow smells even worse these days,

[Anonymous No.]

>>39219007
>Who the fuck cares?
me
t. ransphobe

[Anonymous No.]

>>39216145
Great bait, look at all these replies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39215096
I don't want any character that I create being used as troon propaganda by troons

[Anonymous No.]

>>39222253
>Also going to inform every circle he's working with that he's a kiddy diddler
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>39225938
the shitty people are the ones not playing the games