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391486 No.391486 [Reply] [Original]

I dunno about /jp/, but from what I read about Fate/Zero in wikipedia...

I'd suck Kiritsugu's cock.

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>>391499
>>391497
Dammit, Anon! My nutbladder wasn't cured from the last tiARGGAHHHGHAHHHH!

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>> No.391589

Remind me again Anon,what is Fate/Zero about?

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>>391589
Holy Grail War, Nitro+ style.

>> No.391603

>>391589
Saber's desk job.

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>>391550
>>391548
That must be hell for Archer.

>> No.391608

>>391589
Bombings, snipings, CCTV spying, assassination, hostage-taking, murders, etc, etc, etc.

It's how a fucking grail WAR should be.

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>>391608
Don't forget this guy snagging a fighter jet as his noble phantasm.

>> No.391621

>>391589
Suits.

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FUCK YEAH RIDER

>> No.391628

>>391608
no WOMEN AND CHILDREN. or specifically no children.

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>>391589

>> No.391632

>>391628
>>391626

What.

>> No.391633

>>391626
CANADIANS

>> No.391639

>>391632
instead of masters that arent really masters because they're skill-less faggots, everyone is skilled with magic/kicks a lot of ass/tricky little assholes.

>> No.391641

>>391639

>>tricky little assholes

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>>391618
FUCK YEAH BERSERKER

>> No.391652

Would I get spoiled about anything that happens in HF if I went ahead and read Fate/Zero?

>> No.391655

One master is a mass-murderer who killed an entire family bar one child to summon his servant, Caster. Said servant killed the last remaining boy after giving him a brief hope of getting away.

In another section, Lancer, his master and his arranged wife are in a hotel and hear Saber and Kiritsugu causing a fracas in the ground floor. Assuming he was creating a noise to evacuate civilians from the area, they hunkered down and prepared for a head-on fight.

They were destroying the foundations of the building to bring the whole fucking place down on them.

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>>391646
I cut off your arms! Why are you still fighting!?

>> No.391659

>>391652
Yes.

Mostly regarding Ilya and her true role in the F/SN plot.

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>>391658
...'Tis just a flesh wound.

>> No.391669

>>391658
>>391660
I saw this coming a mile away, but I fucking lol'd.

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someone explain his relationship with ilya's mom to me.

>> No.391740

>>391713
she is his wife and their daughter is illya

>> No.391763

About how long is F/Z?

>> No.391765

>>391740
I thought he just gave her a shot of baby juice.

>> No.391769

Does Kiritsugu have an affair with Maiya?

>> No.391774

Black Knight is one fucking awesome mutherfucker
I tell you that

>> No.391779

>>391660

This guy kicked SO much ass...

>> No.391786

>>391618

FUCK YEAH.

>> No.391789

Nasu always makes better novels than visual novels

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>> No.391801

>>391769
He stopped fucking her after he married Irisviel.

>> No.391817

>>391789
Even bad written VS can sell.
That doesn't work with pure novels

>> No.391819

>>391618

With enough Mana from whoever the Master is, isn't this guy like the most powerful Servant ever? I mean, seriously, he could rip Enûma Elish or Avalon right off of Gilgamesh or Saber respectively and, fuck, USE 'EM right then and there.

>> No.391821

>>391669
Same here.

Being able to lol at those two lines sure made me feel special.

>> No.391822

>>391819
Pretty much. Bitch drains you faster than a funnel, though.

>> No.391825

>>391819

I think you're exaggerating how easy either of those tasks would be. Wouldn't that take a fuckton of mana?

>> No.391829

>>391819
Would this mean that UBW would be pretty much useless againts him?
"OH BUNCH OF SWORDS STICKING OUT OF THE GROUND I THINK ILL USE THEM TOO THANK YOU"

>> No.391832

>>391829

Prettymuch.

>> No.391843

>>391819

Just got the most kickass idea ever. What if Black Knight were to get BOTH simultaneously? Instead of merely wielding them, SMASH THEM TOGETHER AND MAKE A FREAKING DIVIVDE-BY-ZERO PARADOX AND THEN PROCEDE TO WIELD THE ENSUING BLACK HOLE.

>> No.391847

>>391801

What an honest living guy =P

Does the books say anything about his parents?

>> No.391858

>>391843

Holy shit.

That could happen. That SHOULD happen. That'd be win on so many levels.

>> No.391864

>>391858

In order to amass that much mana, he'd pretty much have to genocide the entire planet, so it doesn't really matter.

>> No.391879

>>391843
And that's how babies are made.

>> No.391884

>>391740
wasn't ilya born like 8 years before the 4th grail war?

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>>391879
...
Wait, so she meant I'M the sheath?

WHAT A BITCH

>> No.391895

>>391884
Ilya is older than Shirou.

>> No.391901

Shit, I would love to see manga or anime of Fate/Zero, but at the same time I don't want either animu or manga, since I fucking know they would fuck it up.

>> No.391902

>>391864

I'd actually argue that it would only take a small country or so to wield the black hole, a problem which pretty much solves itself automatically, but the other two would probably require a single Master who could function as a figurative Mississippi river of mana for it to work. We'd probably have to go over to Tsukihime to find someone like that.

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>>391902

Best team evar.

>> No.391915

>>391912
ORT doesn't need this 'team' you speak of.

>> No.391918

>>391912
Who is more powerful, ORT or Slash Emperor?

>> No.391924

>>391912

so what would happen if that guy grabbed this guy and started swinging him around?

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>>391912

ORT has the ability to radiate enough raw mana to obliterate the entire galaxy without expending effort.

I don't think he needs a team.

>> No.391930

>>391924
Instant kill to the planet.

>> No.391932

>>391924

God incarnate.

>> No.391940

>>391930
>>391932
>>391924

Fuck the black hole. Let ORT summon Black Knight and then have Black Knight wield ORT. Same affect, all problems solved. Everything dies.

>> No.391956

>>391940

Best paradox ever. Never going to happen though. Ever.

>> No.391961

>>391956
It already did. It created a time paradox and everything stopped existing and started existing all over again.

>> No.391963

>>391961

OH SHI-

>> No.391973

Then it's decided then. When the Holy Grail Wars come, Anonymous will summon Berserker Lancelot (Black Knight as that one guy called him) and we’ll then use 4chan as a collective medium to transfer our combined mana to power him.

All in all, we win and can wish for whatever we want.

>> No.391974

Okay, sorry for the dumb question, but what medium is Fate/Zero in?

Is it a Visual Novel? Actual novel? Collection of various crap and entrails T-M have put out?
What are the chances of translation?

>> No.391979

>>391974

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fate/Zero

>> No.391981

>>391973

Sounds like a plan, Anon.

>> No.391982

Next typemoon game will be about ORT going into the human world to learn more about them in her magicial high school girl form. You get to play ORT as the main character as she explores many things including sex with both genders. Includes fights with other Dead Apostles.

>> No.391988

>>391981

And in the end, since anons will drop like flies filling him with mana, the last anon alice will pull an ANDOU on all the rest of us.

>> No.391991

>>391982

>>Holy shit.

>>That could happen. That SHOULD happen.

>> No.392001

>>391988

He'd wish for us all to rise from death and become Gods so that we could make reality our 4chan.

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>>392001

That'd fuck everybody else to hell seeing as how we're all rabid sociopaths.

>> No.392004

>>391982
This would make for a pretty good game actually.

>> No.392005

>>392003

EXACTLY.

>> No.392007

>>392001
UNLIMITED 4chan WORKS

>> No.392010

Any Translations for Fate/Zero?

>> No.392012

>>392010
Baka-Tsuki are doing it.

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>> No.392025

So the berserker in Fate/Zero is actuallly lancelot? And he can master anything he gets his hands on?

>> No.392027

>>392025
Yes.

Anything is a noble phantasm for him.

Even chopsticks.

>> No.392028

>>392027
Even his dick?

>> No.392034

>>392025

Yeah get this he uses a 20mm rotary cannon of a fighter jet as noble phantasm.

>> No.392036

>>392028
What took you so long?

>> No.392040

>>392027

This is why he's ultimately the most powerful Servant if used correctly. He can steal other Servant's Phantasms quite easily. The only thing it would require is a massive amount of blunt mana. Furthermore, he can disguise himself as anyone he wishes, not to mention he has the demonic equivalent of Excalibur.

>> No.392044

>>392040
Does he have a personality, or is he an emotionless slave?

>> No.392045

>>392028
I'm imagining the thought of Lancelot beating someone to death with his giant dong.


And I'm loling so fucking hard right now.

>> No.392048

>>392040

Holy shit. This guy is broken.

>> No.392055

>>392048
And SO FUCKING AWESOME

>> No.392058

>>392044

That's difficult to say. He acted as an emotionless slave for most of Fate/Zero but actually possessed his own thoughts and feelings. Only to a certain extent, though, and even then he never acted upon them. He couldn't really articulate them till the end.

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What if he used an F40PH?

>> No.392063

>>392058
Considering he has Mad Enhancement, it makes sense. He's a berserker class.

>> No.392064

>>392044

Being a Berserker class meant his sanity was removed. Complex and emotion thoughts were disabled as well as speech just like Heracles in Fate/Stay Night.

>> No.392067

>>392058

He didn't even want to feel. That's the entire reason he became the beast that he is in Zero.

>> No.392068

I'd like to see Berserker WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>> No.392071

so what happens to berzerker's master? does someone kill him or do the worms get him?

>> No.392077

You know... if I was Kariya... and I really wanted to save Sakura from Zouken, I would've taken him down when he let his guard down instead of going through pain for 1 year with the girl and then participate in a war which I might not win.

>> No.392079

>>392071
Wasn't it Sakura/Shinji's dad who gets him?

>> No.392087

>>392064

berserker in fate/stay was specifically driven mad by illya, not by his class ability. I'd imagine when he wasn't fighting, lancelot would be able to think and such. but what are you going to talk about with a guy whos being eating inside out by penis worms?

>> No.392092

>>392087
"Hey, by the way, do you know I can use the penis worms inside of you as Noble Phantasms too?"

>> No.392098

>>392092

Oh God. This is the best Servant ever.

>> No.392108

I thoroughly enjoy the content presented within this Thread.

>> No.392114

>>392108
agreed.

>> No.392124

>>392040

This guy is just too awesome for his own good.

>> No.392152

This Topic is no longer about Kiritsugu. It really hasn't been for awhile.

Thank God. The current discussion is ten times more epic. FUCK YEAH BERSERKER LANCELOT.

>> No.392161

I'm gar for Black Knight Berserker Lancelot.

>> No.392193

>>392161 gar

>> No.392195

NEXT FATE/STAY NIGHT SEQUAL SHOULD HEAVILY INVOLVE BERSERKER LANCELOT.

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>>392193

UNLIMITED FACEPALM WORKS.

>> No.392206

OP here.

Will no one else suck Kiritsugu's cock? It's all Lancelot now?

Fuck.

>> No.392207

>>392193

Lurkmoar.

>> No.392209

>>392207
'GAR' is dead, buddy. I think the correct meme to use right now is
NO U

>> No.392211

>>392209
GAR & DESU will never die

>> No.392213

>>392193
>>392209
Know your roots.

>> No.392215

>>392207
>>392203

This guy does actually know the origins of gar, he's just a faggot who thinks it shouldnt be used anymore because people have started using it retardedly for any goddamn character.

I guess we should stop using the faggot because retards use it too.

>> No.392216

>>392209

He summoned it from history as his Servant. It's class is Archer.

>> No.392219

Belief that Fate/Zero might actually make a decent anime anyone? Especially since their are no routes to speak of as well.

>> No.392220

so did lancelot ever meet saber in the novels?

>> No.392226

>>392219

YES.

>>392220

Plenty of times, but Saber didn't recognize who Lancelot was till the end.

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>>392213
I've been there the day it was created. It's over-used and dead, now. It's shorter way to say "This is a really awesome character"

I'm pretty sure this is also the exact picture used in the thread GAR originated from.

>> No.392232

>>392226
>Plenty of times, but Saber didn't recognize who Lancelot was till the end.
>till the end.

what? she killed lancelot?

>> No.392234

Does Emiya directly fight a servant? Do guns and explosives even hurt them?

>> No.392243

>>392228

Hey, look, you have an equal in your own series now. You two should have the most epic battle ever.

>>392232

Yep. Well, can you really "kill" a Servant in such a way?

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>>392219
It will probably never get done, because it's awesome and we all know all anime adaptations take only the failest sides of something
>>392195
The Fuyuki grail war doesn't exist anymore, El-Melloi the second dismantled the whole thing. Personaly I'm hoping for more flashbacks of the 1st-2nd-3rd grail wars

>>392040
>>Furthermore, he can disguise himself as anyone he wishes

was it ever found out why? It always struck me as an odd ability for Lancelot. I haven't found clean versions of his jumbled status page either.

>> No.392253

>>392246

Wiki it. It explains everything.

>> No.392255

>>392234
I seem to recall Nasu and/or F/SN being quoted somewhere as saying that nothing short of another Servant (and the weapons they wield) can harm a Servant. Magic, too, since Rin blew off Berserker's head that one time with her magic pop-rocks.

It's for this reason that I laugh when people try insisting that Shiki could totally take on a Servant.

>> No.392257

>>392255
Then again, maybe Rin could only harm him because she was a Master.

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In during winds blowing

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In during brown clouds forming to soon blot out the sun.

>> No.392265

>>392263
lol doujins as fact

>> No.392266

>>392246
>The Fuyuki grail war doesn't exist anymore, El-Melloi the second dismantled the whole thing.
Didn't stop Ataraxia.

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In during clouds positioning themselves in the skies.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome the storm.

>> No.392268

>>392255

Yet another reason why Berserker could dominate everyone else. He'd just shoot them all since he can make modern weaponry become his Noble Phantasms.

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Shiki > Shirou

>> No.392271
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Even UBW.

>> No.392273

>>392271
The author of said doujin sucks shiki's cock.

>> No.392274

>>392263
>>392264
>>392267
>>392269

I lol'd.

You retard. It's a freaking doujin. You can't use that as proof! Silly moron!

>> No.392275
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Seven = Ciel's nun garments.

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Aoi is divine.

>> No.392279

>>392275

I'm facepalming at this point.

This: >>392274

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Oh and Shiki obviously can't match Berserker's speed. The only way he could cut him was because Arcade Bumstead made him stand still long enough.

>> No.392284

>>392265
>>392273
>>392274
>>392279
Same person so yeah.

>> No.392285

>>392280
Even if Beserker didn't fry his brain during the attempt to see his point of death, seeing the death point of UBW would surely have done so.

>> No.392292

>>392280

Official, canonical statements completely go against that doujin. It was idiotic of you to even post it in the first place.

>> No.392293

>>391655
THAT'S NOT LAWFUL GOOD, SABER.

>> No.392297

>>392276
I will admit this is why I like Rin the most.

Not for her spunky strong will.
Not for her waves of pure hotness.
Not for her zettai ryouki.

I love for the fact that when she becomes a mature woman, she will be stunningly elegant-looking.

>> No.392298

>>392285
Seeing the real point of death on Nrvnsqr would totally not have done that. Seeing the real point of death on NATURE would totally not have done that. So I can totally understand what you mean.

>> No.392299

Here's a nifty solution:
Shiki drinks Arcueid's blood, becomes a Dead Apostle directly inheriting her power.
Immune to most damage, a brain that won't fry, enhanced speed and reflexes.

Anyway, Shiki VS Shirou would be a battle of the ages.

Shirou keeps making swords, Shiki keeps breaking them, and in the end, both of them collapse, regurgitating blood and their muscles begging for a breath, while their brains pund like pistons inside their heads.

An epic confrontation, summarised as:
'LOL I Broke thee sword!
LOL, I made ANOTHAR!!!"

>> No.392304

>>392299 Shirou keeps making swords, Shiki keeps breaking them, and in the end, both of them collapse, regurgitating blood and their muscles begging for a breath, while their brains pund like pistons inside their heads.
But swords are not hard to understand, so he won't be hurt much from seeing the lines or points of death on them, so yeah!

>> No.392306

>>392298

These are completely different objects, though, and it's just outright impossible to do such a thing to a Reality Marble.

>> No.392308

>>392298
Are you saying Shiki can cut nature?

>> No.392309

>>391902
>Tsukihime

Ciel would never do it and Satsuki's too busy being dead/reduced to a third string chara. But yes it would be epic.

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>>392293
What are you saying? Destroying a building is the best way to save the people inside it!

>> No.392314

>>392308
It's Shiki and hax. Stop before you RAGE anonymous' brain.

>> No.392317

>>392304
Think of the ARcher VS Shiroyu battle, imagine Shirou making Slightly better swords and having them fight for like an hour.

Shiki's limited Stamina and Shirou's strain from providing constant mana=BOOM.

Not crazy murderer personalities, no bodies sprouting swords.

>> No.392319

This thread just descend from epic to shit

>> No.392321

>>392308
No I'm saying he did stab nature. Read Tsukihime if you don't believe me.
>>392306
And it's totally not impossible to do such a thing to a being that keeps reincarnating time after time. Or any of the other stuff he did in Tsukihime that seemed way over the top.

>> No.392323

>>392312
Oh, shut up Suzaku.

You thsilly faggot.

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>>392312
He disagerees.

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Fuck you, powerlevel fags.

>> No.392333

>>392319

Suprisingly it was all Shiki's fault.

>> No.392334

>>392324
He's also gay. But that's a different thing entirely.

>> No.392340

>>392319

When it had everything to do with Black Knight Berserker Lancelot, everything was mythically epic.

Then some faggot just had to contest one statement and it descended into shit. Oh, and then an even bigger faggot had to bring his Shiki cock sucking bullshit into the Topic and started to display what a retard he was by being wrong at every point he possibly could.

>> No.392341

>ORT will be confirmed as a main character ko girl in the Tsukihime sequel, co-written by Nitro.

lolwhut

>> No.392342

This discussion is now about Black Knight wielding Shiki's eyes as his weapon.

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>> No.392346

Can Lancelot/Dark Knight use concepts as noble phantasms?

>> No.392349

>>392346
He can use everything
Read:
EVERYTHING
HE CAN USE LIFE AS HIS NOBLE PHANT--

Okay, bad example.

>> No.392351

>>392346

Sure. If his Master has the mana.

>> No.392356

>>392351

Holy shit. This guy is STILL freaking broken.

>> No.392361

>>392356
Taking in account that no master (except Dark Sakura) can provide him with THAT MUCH mana then not really.

>> No.392358

>>392356
Only as broken as his master.

>> No.392359
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>> No.392360

>>392359
I came.

>> No.392365

>>392359

HAHA, OH SHI-

>> No.392370

>>392333
This thread was about cockmongling. It was destined to fail.

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Any of these could beat up most of the Fate/Stay Night cast.

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>>392370

Black Knight saved it. Then Shiki fucked it up. Now Azure Knight has to fix things up.

>> No.392380

>>392370
It was about Kiritsugu cockmongling. The worst that could have happened is Kiritsugu x Shirou shota promotions could have appeared.

And we got moe taiga in the first 2 posts.

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>>392375
OH GOD WARCUEID IS SO MOE

>> No.392385

>>392375

Most members of the cast are Servants. Servants must defeat Servants.

>> No.392390

>>392385
That's why Kirei can stalemate True Assassin.

>> No.392391

>>392381

I came.

>> No.392393

>>392380
>98 posts about wanting desperately to slob Lancelot's knob

I beg to differ, sir.

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>>392381
This thread is now about the evil side of Tsukihime.

>> No.392396

>>392390
He's fucking True Assassin.

Anyone can beat that little faggot.

>> No.392397

So if they're pulling legends out their asses, how come no one bothered to summon Son Goku as a Berseker?

The Journey West (NON HOMO) version not the dbz faggot.

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In addition, these needs to be translated, badly.

>> No.392400

>>392390

EXACTLY, ACTUALLY. He can ONLY stalemate it.

>> No.392402

>>392395
OP here.

Should I delete the thread now?

By the way, I also started the whole Black Knight discussion.

>> No.392406

>>392400
Ciel would've beaten his ass six ways to sunday. Just accept that in F/SN servants could be harmed by people and not just other servants.

>> No.392408

>>392397
In before comic about Ilya's berserker servant Goku repost.

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So tsundere...

>> No.392412

>>392402
Don't.

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Nanaya Shiki is moe.

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>>392402

Now you can.

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Akachaningen

>> No.392419

>>392413
Why does she carry everything with her tits?

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Oh god it's so...

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>>392419
She's just holding it close to her.

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Oh god I have to post this again. So moe I died.

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>> No.392433

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THS THREAD?

>> No.392438

>>392433
Thread gone fucking BERSERK

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>> No.392448

>>392432

lancelots true identity?

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>> No.392482

>>392467

FUCK YEAH NIGHT TERROR.

This whole experience has reminded me how awesome Black Knights truly are.

>> No.392506

This thread should have auto-sage by now, so why bother deleting?

It was pretty nice too.

>> No.392510

>>392506
Autosage doesn't kick in till 250 posts.

>> No.392558

>>391497
>>391499
suddenly the FSN anime seems worth watching

>> No.392574

>>392558

only ep 21 is worth watching because of WOMEN AND CHILDREN

>> No.392669

>>391486
Hey, why does Kiritsugu in the OP look so much like Message leaning over Shirou?

>> No.392726

>>392669
CAN'T UNSEE IT YOU BASTARD

>> No.392767

>>391486
Actually that reminds me, Why the fuck didn't more master's use guns in the grail war? It's not like they had to die by servant.

>> No.392776

>>392767
Because it's extremely easy to get guns in Japan.

>> No.392780

>>392776
For magus with mass connections and money practically coming out their asses? Yes, actually. It IS easy.

>> No.392790

>>392767
Proper Magi view guns, and technology, as something barbaric and generally to be shunned. IIRC, in F/Z they said Tokiomi didn't even use phones, but just magical means of comunication like his pendulum.
The whole point of Kiritsugu is that he's extremely effective because he can exploit that weakness, that blind spot, at the cost of his 'pride' as Magus.

>> No.392810

Inspite of all that, technology has been constantly advancing while magic only keeps regressing.

Nobody is doing shit to make more humans be born with more and better circuits.

Magus who come close to achieving a miracle get hunted down and sealed away, so of COURSE the quality of magic itself is decreasing.

>> No.392830

>>392361
What if Aoko summoned him? She has infinite mana.

Although she's lazy and sucks at sorcery, so she'd probably do it wrong.

>> No.392834

>>392830

Well, she sucks at sorcery, true, but who the hell needs to be able to use a Gaav Flare when you have blue beamspam?!

>> No.392840

>>392834
Blue + Jeweled Sword = HAX

>> No.392844

>>392840

But then Zelretch would show up and say "you're moving with your auntie and your uncle in bel-air" for stealing his stuff.

>> No.392852

>>392844
Darn you, Wizard Marshal.

>> No.392854

>>392844
Aoko and Zelretch know each other, I'm sure he'd be at least polite.

Although the idea of anyone wielding two Magics at the same time is sickening enough that I wouldn't be too surprised if he WAS abrupt about it

>> No.392866

>>392852

I has an idea. We snatch the Dress of Heaven from Ilya and the Jeweled Sword of Zel and give them to Aoko.

Then we go kick ORT's ass.

>> No.392868

What's so bad about having two magics?

And is the Dress of Heaven actually powerful in its own right?

>> No.392875

>>392868
There are only five Magics, and they are all obscenely powerful. Kaleidoscope fucks with multiple realities, Blue is an unknown but we can guess it involves blowing shit up, and I forget the others.

Either way, even having one is broken, and there are only three (or is it four?) people who can use them currently alive. Plus one of those is Zelretch and he doesn't spend much time in this world.

>> No.392880

>>392875
The First Magic
* Name: Unknown.
* Territory: Denial of nothingness.
* User: Died a long time ago, but it is still said that there are 5 Magics.

The Second Magic
* Name: Unknown, referred to as either "Zelretch" or "Kaleidoscope".
* Territory: Operation of parallel worlds.
* User: Kishua Zelretch Schweinorg.

The Third Magic
* Name: Heaven's Feel, Cup of Heaven (天の杯, Ten no Sakazuki?).
* Territory: Materialization of the soul.
* User: If it can be considered to have any user, it would be Lizleihi Justizia von Einzbern, who is the core of the Great Grail, and Illyasviel von Einzbern although she cannot use it properly.

>> No.392882

>>392868
The Dress of Heaven is like a large, external magic circuit.

>>392875
Alteration: only five True Magics still in existence. In the past, there were many, though still a dwindling number.

>> No.392886

>>392880
* Territory: Materialization of the soul.
Translated into English?

>> No.392889

>>392886

You get to manifest your soul in the form of plot hacks.

>> No.392888

>>392886
Fucked if I know. HF isn't translated yet, I'm guessing it gets explained in there.

>> No.392892

>>392886
That is English. Think about the Holy Grail and how it works: it contains errant souls - collected from outside of the flow of time? - and allows a sorcerer to summon them into physical existence, even if only for a short period of time.

>> No.392925

Denial of nothingness? What the fuck?

>> No.392928

>>392925
Who knows? Maybe not even Nasu.

>> No.392936

>>392882
Wasnt that because in the past, there were tons of shit normal people or magic couldnt do, so there were a lot more magicians?

>> No.392940

>>392925
Creation

>> No.392945

>>392266
>>The Fuyuki grail war doesn't exist anymore, El-Melloi the second dismantled the whole thing.
Because he HATES JAPAN.

>> No.392987

>>392940
The Big Bang?

>> No.393445

Time travel is also a magic.

IIRC, in FH/A, Bazzet mentions that resurrection would involve the magics of time travel, negation of nothingness, and control of alternate realities.

>> No.393462

>>393445
It would involve Heaven's Feel mostly, since that's what the Third Magic basically does. Ir gives a soul form, which includes a soul that has died previously. Someone capable of using the Third Magic can remove the "ur ded lol" marker on a deceased soul and allow it to be ressurected.

Ilya does it to Shirou in HF, though not very well because she can't use Heaven's Feel properly (largely due to the Grail being an unsuccessful fuckup).

>> No.393519

What if lancelot berserker hijacked a nuclear warhead carrying bomber and started using nukes as noble phantasms?

>> No.393544

>>393519
He'd kill everyone then disappear from Mana exhaustion, thus there would be a full holy grail without servants to touch it and access it.

>> No.393594

Seriously, you guys are fucking stupid.

The match would probably be a draw because:
1. To use "Unlimited Blade Works" It requires that a spell be chanted. Since the two of them fight at melee distance, it would be very difficult to perform.
2. Since both of them are human, they're (believe it or not) on about on an equal playing field. Considering that Shirou's swords are projections, they will undoubtedly have flaws which result in the lines of death becoming visible. But, Shirou can recreate as many swords as mana permits while Shiki can only keep his eyes strained for so long.
3. No shikifags, Nanaya mode won't kick in. Shirou is human.
4. Yes Shiroufags, unlimited blade works can be destroyed. UBW is just a reality (environment) contained within a barrier, so Shiki can kill it (Reread Ciel's route).

I can imagine the fight now! Two guys with no real strategy rushing head on at one another. Projecting swords over and over again just to have the lines cut, meanwhile both brains are pulsing, their lungs screaming for oxygen, they want to regurgitate blood. The fight goes on for about five minutes before Shirou is out of mana and Shiki is lying on the ground with his brain pounding in his skull like a piston.

tl;dr they're both human and both fight at melee distance using weapons of about the same length. One can kill things instantly and one can create things instantly. A battle of "LUL I KILLED UR SWORD" "LUL I GOT ANTOHER ONE."

Copied and pasted from that LAST power levels thread.

>> No.393602

>>392299
>>393594
I didn't have access on my computer at that moment, so I just typed what I remembered from it.

>> No.393607

>>393602
Meh, doesn't matter.

>> No.393917

>>393594
Didn't Nasu say that Shiki would be able to kill Shirou's traces but that his brain would get fried in the process? A fight between them would end in a tie as they'd both die.

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