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Guide: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

Previous thread: >>38987671

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>>38996037
Great OP post.

>> No.38997291

That was a decently sized earthquake in tokyo

Surprised my son slept through it mostly

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>> No.38997505

やってやんよ!

>> No.38997527

u cain't even shitpost with japaniggas cuz they are autistic as fuck

>> No.38997545

>>38997527
same in america

>> No.39000126,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>39000000
another massive win for /qa/

>> No.38997849

雲形定規

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be sure to read John's religion/story
>How I got 180/180 on N1 in ~8.5 Months!
https://rentry.org/9pe4o

But essentially what John's method religion IS:

* Start reading every day (and listening)
* Go through a grammar guide (like Tae kim or Cure Dolly)
* Go through a common vocab deck (like core2.3k)
* Mine stuff into Anki that you encounter in your Japanese media

A detailed guide of what John did can be found on
https://pastebin.com/0ANbbfHR


*John Bless your gains

>> No.38997940

>>38997080
brooooo this semen demon is love so much
>>38997012
time for morning nei breeding

>> No.38998032

>>38997873
being born in the time of the messiah

>> No.38998033

i don't understand why our brains can store a word as passive data but struggle to retrieve it when we need it

>> No.38998052

>>38998033
theres many layers to memory all with their specializations. you dont want to remember everything all the time, so this is the way it balances

>> No.38998081

>>38998033
cause our brains speed in retrieving info seems to be based on how many thinga link to a particular memory/item, and how vivid they are, a good memory trick is visualizing a place you know really well, and placing things/kanji/whatever in it, then you can retrieve the things/kanji/etc by thinking of the place

>> No.38998098

>>38998052
>tfw remember everything all the time

>> No.38998130

>>38998033
I started writing words so I know how to imagine them in my head. This helps with being able to use the words proactively and not just being able to recognize symbols when I see them.

>> No.38998132

>>38998098
they say dmt does that

>> No.38998153

>>38998132
dmt bros we keep winning!!

>> No.38998175

in the case of japanese it's even weirder cuz we have to actively retrieve it when we see the symbol

>> No.38998258

i just picture kanji as graceful, stylish, classy tattoos on output goddesses back, or just above her perfect little manko yymm

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Alright I finished my daily Anki, time to follow Johns path and immerse for 8+ hours until my brain starts to melt!

>> No.38998287

>>38997315
thought this was a doujin for a moment.

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>>38996037

Read the DJT guide to git gud https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/
Make targeted sentence cards (TSCs) for maximum gains.

Previous thread: >>38987671

>> No.38998322

>>38998268
gmi
>>38997291
glad youre fine bro, been seeing a lot of people don't have power

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>>38997873
>>38996037
Disregard SHIT advice frequently posted in these threads. Things to avoid:
・Itazuraneko. Outdated, hard to follow, confusing for beginners.
・any rentry.org and геddiт """guides""". nothing good has ever come out of геddiт.
・tmw/The moe way. Patreon scam run by a turkish tranny.
・Anime cards (the guide by someone named QM). It recommends words cards, which are proven to be less effective than targeted sentence cards (TSCs).
・Core 2.3k. It is based on newspapers from early 90s and additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. Try Ankidrone Starter Pack instead.
・Anacreon. Anacreon is an infamous spammer. He constantly hijacks our threads to shill his shit.
・Discord servers. Discord is malware that runs a data mining operation. DJT has moved to Matrix.
・Refold, Migaku and other money grab schemes.
・Visual novels. Experienced learners say they're trash because of unnatural speech and useless vocabulary. Most VNs are proprietary ー https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/

tatsumoto is the best guide.

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for me it's my new formed

CRIPPLED CARDS

>> No.38998361

*FORMAT

>> No.38998366

>>38998354
can confirm yhis anon is cripplee

>> No.38998403

>>38998366
look, it's simple
i see a piece of text and i think
>fuck, i'd never be able to come up with this sentence and it's something i will probably need in the future
i immediately turn it into a cripple card

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幼年時代からネギまが大好きで背が低い男子のフェチある女の人がいるはず・・・
絶対にあの子を見つける。

>> No.38998416

>>38998354
surely you are doing this ironically right?

>> No.38998419

>>38998403
liter8ly 僕

>> No.38998431

>>38998416
y。。eah haha..

>> No.38998435

>>38998416
it's for real
and it gives me output confidence

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>> No.38998466

the translation is just a hint

>> No.38998479

>>38998466
foolish

>> No.38998501

>>38998435
anki drones are doing output reps now...
so shocked i cant even come up with a response

>> No.38998503

>>38998479
look, i just want to remember the chunk

>> No.38998510

>>38998501
i read vinnies daily and interact with japanese people

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>> No.38998550

all this shit is somewhere in my brain. i just want to make it active

>> No.38998604

>>38998510
>interact with japanese people
truly ngmi

>> No.38998627

i even turned bunko's
>ひどい言われようだな
into a card
and as you can see, i recalled it on demand

>> No.38998632

>>38998627
what else can you say if i pull your string

>> No.38998635

todays coco of the day
https://youtu.be/MtwuyTvjVCw

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>>38998635

>> No.38998662

>>38998632
試したらわかるでしょう

>> No.38998676

>>38998662
man i was joking about the string but these really are canned phrases

>> No.38998715

gotta watch the new dragon maid

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女子高 bros... It's over.

>> No.38998759

>>38998676
意味が通じるならそれでいい

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Today is weird. 5pm and I've alredy done 1hr of imerrsion, done anki, and mined enough words for the next couple days...

>> No.38998767

>>38998635
never heard this before but its so fucking catchy lmao
>>38998722
big opay are buoyant
>>38998662
>>38998627
kek nice

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>>38998762
nice

>> No.38998783

ppl complaining itt bout not bein able 2 recall shit need to get on the memory palace game
like i dunno every time i need to recall a word just go into memory palace and get it out simple

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>>38998550

>> No.38998813

>>38998793
its the same picture

>> No.38998844

++++ breaking news

earthquake and tsunami warning in fukushima

>> No.38998855

>>38998330
what is the tatsumoto guide?

>> No.38998864

>>38998844
in... where...? dame its a repeat

>> No.38998897

>>38998864
dame

>> No.38998923

今日の曲
https://youtu.be/U9nCmbIQFKk

>> No.38998941

your highest chances of getting into effortless japanese acquisition mode lie in returning to 子供心, childlike mind. you can not experience effortless acquisition while holding heavy expectations where you feel bad for not knowing everything and put fun in second place to your obsession with "perfection". you must have a genuinely curious and openminded approach to japanese or else your journey will be fraught with brute force and frustration even in higher stages of progress

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>>38998941
true true true so true true true true true!!!

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Has anyone watch it in japanese?
I was looking for a word in Jisho and it gave me the title of this for some reason.

>> No.38998978

>>38998923
better kyoku https://youtu.be/tdfIqTv4oIg

>> No.38998984

>>38998973
have not, heard of it years ago tho

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>> No.38999099

>>38999091
it's happening

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>>38999091
kon kon gf bros

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>>38996037

>> No.38999156

>>38999145
cute

>> No.38999287

>>38996037
PSA
https://files.catbox.moe/2vxu8v.mp4

>> No.38999307

>>38999287
dunno how anyone can play these shitty old games

>> No.38999312

>>38999287
damn my hand kachiteni closed that as soon as i heard qm's voice

>> No.38999359

>>38999287
majinai to

>> No.38999386

レイプ

>> No.38999403

better psa https://streamable.com/oyp1cj

>> No.38999417 [DELETED] 

mad how eigo hollowshit is still allowed in jp after vt was made months ago

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>> No.38999448

>>38999403
true true but this ones even better https://streamable.com/e1vuxm

>> No.38999458

>>38999403
its in japanese tho, if some nobody reading a vn in broken japanese is relevant, this is more
>>38999448
love it

>> No.38999473

>>38999426
sheeeeeesh

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>>38999426
yabai

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>> No.38999832

title of my upcoming vid:
UNFOLDING REFOLD: The Untold Dark Past of Matt vs. Japan

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so dont feel sick anymore from covid. But losing my taste and smell now. Kill me

>> No.38999901

test

>> No.38999913

>>38998722
They should invert the colors. Lighter makes sense for water, not land

>> No.38999920 [DELETED] 

>>38999888
>losing my taste and smell now
dont feel sorry for yourself, feel bad for the holoshitters who never had any taste to begin with (though they smell enough to make up for it lmaoo)

>> No.38999924

test

>> No.38999930

>>38999888
>has literally gained the superpower to eat an entire onion
I dont see the problem anon

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daily jakpanese thread

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>>38999920
I laughed out loud. thank you
>>38999930
I enjoy trying new food

>> No.38999965

>>38999948
Well if youre looking for a new food experience, now you can eat a whole onion
Ideally at a party full of people you dont know

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>>38999965
o-oh okay anon, I will, thanks

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nom nom nom num num

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>>38999888
it comes back (hopefully), glad you are feeling better bro
>>38998635
dame love her so much, girls like her and kone are my type

>> No.38999992

>>38999888
I had covid and literally felt nothing and had no side effects
Did you have a really severe case or something?

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/qa/ won.

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PIZZA

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/qa/ won.

>> No.39000009

>>38999992
no just a slightly dry throat and a little tired desu

>> No.39000010

>>39000000
wow thats a cool image thanks for posting

>> No.39000014

>>39000000
gemmy

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>>39000000
Big White Gem

>> No.39000017

欠伸

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>>39000000
I kneel

>> No.39000028

>>39000000
>>38999998
>>38999994
eh a qa raid? whats with the pizza? is qa back?

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>>39000000
we both got the win
congrats

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>>39000000
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>39000000
>>38999998
oh its Cheese Pizza i get it

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>>39000000
WE WON BASEDBROS

>> No.39000056

>>38998033
i hate genetics so much. i wish we all could have been born with einstein's iq so we didn't struggle with recall as much.

>> No.39000062

>>39000056
think iq and memory are different

>> No.39000070

>>39000000
https://vocaroo.com/18jT5Xtx469M

>> No.39000087

>>39000062
memory is a component

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>> No.39000101

>>39000056
Shut up and study goofball

>> No.39000107

>>33333333

>> No.39000111

>>38998973
it was 1 of the biggest atrocities of all time

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I was right, right?

>> No.39000119

>>39000101
>if you're 5'2" just deal with it manlet!

>> No.39000124

>>39000000
/qa/ won again

>> No.39000126

if only moe were here...
he would've loved that get...

>> No.39000130

>>39000000
hello gem department?

>> No.39000135

>>39000093
this is a way cooler number

>> No.39000136 [DELETED] 

/qa/ won. sisters, we admit defeat. its time to restore /qa/

>> No.39000137

>>39000119
Literally yes
What else are you gonna do about it?
Cry? Lmao

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>>39000135
true true
>>39000119
just be confident bro

>> No.39000174

>>38996999
lasted 1 day?

>> No.39000175

>>39000137
post height

>> No.39000182

>>39000056
CRISPR gene editing, soon...

>> No.39000183

>>38998762
what did you immerse in?

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>>39000182
dragon girl gf bros

>> No.39000193

>>39000182
god i hope i survive long enough for gene editing intelligence + reverse aging/eternal youth.

i want to live to see the super intelligent ai that's gonna wipe us all out.

>> No.39000196

>>38999426
the audacity of this bitch to wear clothes in the first place

>> No.39000204

is this the big post 2011 earthquake people were fearing?

>> No.39000209

>>39000204
no

>> No.39000233

>>38999999
nice

>> No.39000243

>>39000116
no idea what this app is but it looks crippling

>> No.39000246

>>39000183
Vinnies.
I'm reading Charabration, I've tried before to immerse with other vns, so it's not *quite* my first, but it's the first I intend to actually finish.

>> No.39000253

>>39000243
It's lingodeer I think.
It's as crippling as duolingo, perhaps more because people keep regurgitating that "lingodeer is better than duoling for asian languages!" without ever thinking about it, just because they read it once on reddit, so they actually think it's not complete garbo.

>> No.39000258

>>39000175
5’10”?

>> No.39000269

>>39000253
silly npcs, deer cant even talk
>>39000175
4 feet even

>> No.39000270

>>38998722
all my twitter friends were okay, but they said some houses are without electricity

>> No.39000284

>>39000270
based twitter befriender

>> No.39000296

>>39000111
is it that bad?

>> No.39000309

i find that i don't masturbate out of boredom simply because i'm horny and in that case it should be okay to relieve myself right

>> No.39000318

>>39000309
Uh wut?

>> No.39000332

If I fap, it's always out of boredom.
I don't think I've ever been like "Oh man, I'm suddenly randomly horny, time to fap!" generally I'm bored, so I look up something on exhentai, which makes me horny, so I fap.

>> No.39000337

>>39000332
>>39000309
I mean you do you man if its not invasive to your life or your ability to get real pussy I dont see the issue

>> No.39000343

>>39000318
a lot of people say that masturbation is a problem because people only do it out of boredom but for me it's a physical need that unless i relieve myself would be a distraction because i'd be too horny

>> No.39000352

>>39000343
I mean I personally dont even see the issue with doing it due to boredom
Unless it impacts your mental health or your relationships do whatever the fuck you want

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my jerk off rate plummeted once i started working, now i don't even do it daily anymore

>> No.39000385

>>39000309
true true same

>> No.39000388

Is there a reason "Eld-" is used frequently in japanese western based fantasy?

Elden Ring
Eldia in SNK
Eldin Province in Twilight Princess
Eldes was a name of a villain in a spinoff pokemon game.

>> No.39000391 [DELETED] 

>>39000388
kys

>> No.39000392

>>39000383
dameeeee

>> No.39000394 [DELETED] 

Old form of 銀: 白金 (white metal)
鋼: 刃金 (blade metal)
銅: 赤金 (red metal)

>> No.39000396

>>39000388
don't mind the retard, it just sounds cool i guess

>> No.39000406

>>39000388
take good care of yourself! good question
>>39000394
i like 赤がね much better than 銅

>> No.39000427 [DELETED] 

>>39000388
not doing your homework buddy go play in traffic

>> No.39000429

>>39000388
eld means old and sounds medieval

>> No.39000434

>>39000388
foreign, sounds cool, average japs can still kinda pronounce it

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two more eps
curious how theyll wrap this up

>> No.39000439

>>39000427
Youre a fucking loser

>> No.39000444 [DELETED] 

>>39000439
cope and seethe retard

>> No.39000450 [DELETED] 

What's the difference between old, eld, olden and elden?

>> No.39000452

>>39000427
Lol

>> No.39000453

my homework is to play in traffic nerd

>> No.39000459

>>39000444
Buzzword buzzword
If youd rather continue talking about the ethics of masturbation please feel free to continue that conversation while we talk about japanese on the board dedicated to japanese culture

>> No.39000462

>>39000439
don't mind that anon, he is not well please do not feed the troll

>> No.39000468

>>39000427
baaaaased

>> No.39000474

>>39000450
unironically feel it out

>> No.39000483

>>39000450
how cool it sounds i guess?

>> No.39000486 [DELETED] 

>>39000459
id rather talk about the ethics of dunking your face in a wood chipper

>> No.39000488

>>39000474
I kind of feel a little eld tbqh imho

>> No.39000489

Digimon or Megaman BN?

Which should I immerse with?

>> No.39000491

>>39000486
He said while edging for the second time today
Japanese is fun

>> No.39000499

eld- words have a certain degree of reverence to it

>> No.39000505 [DELETED] 

>>39000459
that anon is a schizophrenic troll, the better way to deal with him is clicking on the 3 dots next to his posts and letting the powers that be know an aisle needs clean up, engaging with his bait is a waste of time, he just flings shit

>> No.39000506

>>39000488
frfr

>> No.39000510

>>39000489
hmm both have sexy girls
tough question

>> No.39000522

>>38999130
Kitsune FRIEND!

>> No.39000524
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>>39000505
true true
>>39000488
kek
>>39000489
like bn better desu but castlevania > both
>>39000491
edging is prime emmersion gotta get your dopamine pathways to salivate to japanese

>> No.39000535

>>39000510
>>39000489
>oh no you beat me in a pokemon battle... i don't have money tho... perhaps i can reward you in another way...?

>> No.39000539

>>39000505
https://streamable.com/3v4f7d

>> No.39000552

God I hate when there so many names, Ill skip this book, reading about castles isnt that interesting.

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>>39000539

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>>39000524
>edging is prime emmersion gotta get your dopamine pathways to salivate to japanese
true true

>> No.39000589

how did the qa kiddies even organize a raid their board is dead

>> No.39000604

they probably have a gay discord or something. and even then it's not the true /qa/ squad because they wouldn't use discord

>> No.39000614

>>38977678
pls repsond guys

>> No.39000626

>>39000614
https://streamable.com/9c52wi

>> No.39000667

>>39000614
when else would it be used

>> No.39000669

>>39000626

haaai owari omae no ?????????? end sayonara bye bye

>> No.39000681

>>39000669
人生 the

>> No.39000683

>>38996346
Why is his manga backwards?

>> No.39000685

holoshit arent even part of djt, why are they allowed here?

>> No.39000689

>>39000667
have seen it a lot in dorama and tv, oh and a lot in anime as well and i mean in the casual goodbye way
so im pretty much perplexed by these statements

>> No.39000694

>>39000667
when letting out a huge load

>> No.39000696

dunno but we should get this thread back on track
which are better sentence cards or vocab cards?

>> No.39000700

tscs

>> No.39000703

the crux of the matter is
watashi ha gei

>> No.39000705

>>39000696
empty cards

>> No.39000706

>>39000685
been considering setting up my first filters for them

>>39000689
in real life you'd only use it in serious probably never gonna see them again type goodbyes

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>>39000685
huh? you are thinking the INTermediate thread in /int/, holos are prime emmersion material and have always been why else would people even learn japanese, troll

>> No.39000713

>>39000685
>japanese content not part of djt
we shouldnt be allowed to discuss anime and manga either then

>> No.39000714

>>39000696
chunk cards
if u know japanese u know what im talking about

>> No.39000717

>>39000708
true true

holohaters, trolls, and ecelebs belong in /int/

>> No.39000725

>>39000681
はいいいおわりお前の人生をエンドさよならバイバイ

Dekiru!

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true, djt is the daily japanese thread and holos are the BEST japanese content (well after jav but theyre up there)

>> No.39000735

>>39000713
half the crap they post is not even japanese

>> No.39000742

>>39000725
>をエンド
read the title of the streamable

>> No.39000752
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>>39000626
unfathomably fucking based saved

>> No.39000755

>>39000742
>Tokyo U Graduate
>ジ・エンド

>> No.39000762
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>>39000735
NONE of the crap holoh8r trolls post is in japanese

>> No.39000763

thread will be good again in a month once the ngmis get bored

>> No.39000766

>>39000735
https://streamable.com/aktx6t

>> No.39000772

true true most of the n6cels are gone

>> No.39000775

Is JAV actually good for immersion?

>> No.39000785

Do you know where I can get games in japanese? I wanted to try jp pokemon but can't find any files online

>> No.39000791
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>>39000775
yes, most everything by madonna has award winning storylines
>>39000766
i can see why they all have crushes on him dame

>> No.39000792

>>39000785
buy it on the switch
newer pokemon games let you choose japanese

and for switch games in general if you set your console to japanese most will show in japanese

>> No.39000803

>>39000785
how can you be this tech illiterate

>> No.39000808

>>39000785
like the roms?

>> No.39000816

>>39000775
no they're way too simple for anyone above hololive level

>> No.39000823

>>39000785
zoomers really don't know how to use the internet
sad

>> No.39000827

>>39000706
/djt/ers again proving they don't know japanese

>> No.39000828

hmmm still need to play the yakuza games, start with 0 or 1?

>> No.39000829

>>39000762
Truth hurts

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>>39000775
personally i cant into 3dpd

>>39000828
0

>> No.39000839

>>39000838
Any hentai recs for immersion?

>> No.39000841

>>39000827
durr

>> No.39000872

>>39000829
its not true tho, well it is just due to their limiting beliefs, in truth idols have mankos and a man will get them

>> No.39000946

>>39000838
will do, got that one on pc, think i got all of them actually just never started them

>> No.39000949

>>39000839
i dont really watch hentai but 魔乳秘剣帖 was great

>> No.39001019

>>39000182
gene editing is a lot harder after you're already developed.
i remember reading there was that one woman who went through some experimental life extension gene therapy tho
wonder where that's going

>>39000193
>god i hope i survive long enough for gene editing intelligence + reverse aging/eternal youth.
would any of us even be able to afford it

>> No.39001025

>>39000839
la blue girl, urutsukidoji, anything pink pineapple, anything ujin

>> No.39001096

>>39001019
gene editing is a meme, the geneticist know it's a meme, people don't like being told it's a meme

>> No.39001124

>>39001096
maybe it's just not it's time yet. technology always has a really shitty form before it's more useful form

>> No.39001129

this thread has been real fucking shit lately and it's all because matto isn't posting any new content to lol at

>> No.39001157

we even had to dig through qm archives to find まじない for a laugh

>> No.39001162

finally, relateable content on YouTube
https://youtu.be/PRLcZ9lKCMg

>> No.39001191

>>39001124
one of my professor's liked telling us a story
he had a lot of media attention, used to give presentations and seminars to large audiences to promote them
after one such presentation, an 18 yro girl approached him full of hope
she has cf and was happy that eventually there could be some kind of somatic gene therapy to help her out
he smiled, shook her hand, nodded and said some empty words
he would the tell us that was the hardest part f his job, for he knew that she could live the remaining 20 years of her life without that ever happening

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>japanese consider these "べっぴん"
god, nips are so fucking ugly.

>> No.39001207

Immerse
https://twitter.com/MiAri_utau/status/1503251673392635914

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>>39001196
one on the left literally looks like kingseeker frampt

>> No.39001229 [DELETED] 

>>39001191
shut the fuck up nobody cares you fucking dumbass

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>>39001196
This one's mine. Back the fuck off

>> No.39001245

>>39001229
the guy bought up gene therapy and i responded, i obviously wasn't talking to you

>> No.39001254

>>39001129
Its because people are posting about random shit instead of discussing japanese and asking japanese learning related questions

>> No.39001261

>>39001207
would be hotter without the tabako

>> No.39001262

>>39001254
uhhh no that's not it

>> No.39001272

>>39001191
shit sadly takes a long time and it has to be the right time

>> No.39001279

>>39001262
Yes Im sure its because your favorite e-celeb isn’t posting

>> No.39001282

>>39001279
exactly

>> No.39001313

>>39001282
Maybe go watch his old content

>> No.39001325

>>39001313
nah i've already lol'd at all the old stuff

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Finished the core deck the other day and have been adding to my mining deck. I can see improvements, and I'm immersing a lot, but it's still hard to imagine that will lead me to fluency someday.

>> No.39001347

>>39001325
I guess you’ll have to find some other entertainment in life until then
Maybe lifting or something productive

>> No.39001368

yoshi finished my latin reps

>> No.39001392

based gambs

>> No.39001445

might do some homeric greek after i finish japanese

>> No.39001469

Should I try to understand how all different verb conjugations work right now, or it's just a matter of immersion time?

>> No.39001486

just emerse more

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>> No.39001564

>>39001469
Depends, whats your level?
Read tae kim, then look up grammar you have trouble with during immersion as you encounter it.

>> No.39001621

>>39000394
felt out akagane years ago

>> No.39001627

reminds me of old b

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARPFXyLGAvw

>> No.39001636

白金食らっちゃった

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おはようおにいちゃん

おげんきですか

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>>39001636
>"i have no idea what that means"

>> No.39001692

Which online dictionaries do you guys use?
Jisho is mostly fine, but sometimes I wish I had a better one specifically for kanji, but most options seem to be like the kodansha dictionary which is only paperback and I don't want to slowly search thru stuff, I want to just copy paste.

>> No.39001706

>>39001639
なんかいとらふじゃなくてよかったですね

>> No.39001717

>>38998033
Because there are two different networks in the brain that do that. The wernicke area and the Broca area.
Speaking and listening are literally different skills with different areas in the brain that are trained to do them and you can't go from one to the other without practice.

>> No.39001718

>>39001445
>ancient greek
Enjoy your declination and conjugation hell. At least Japanese is still spoken.

>>39001692
Jisho has done the job quite well for me. What's the issue you're trying to solve?

>> No.39001728

>>39001245
that anon is not well, i care, it was a good and insightful post and i enjoyed it greatly

>> No.39001741 [DELETED] 

>>39001728
kys vermin

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>>39001692
not online but you can open a search page on yomichan
these dicts have served me well, one even comes with pictures

>> No.39001778

>>39000733
Why does the guy have to become a dog?
Why cant it just be a world where men are all small cute pets for women?

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>one even comes with pictures

>> No.39001794

>>39001782
lmふぁお

>> No.39001797

>>39001778
きみはペット

>> No.39001804

crippled yomichan tards shilling their shit when https://kanji.jitenon.jp/ covers more kanji than any yomi dict and doesnt cause the browser to take 2x as long to load

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>>39001196
美しい
10/10 in most of the world anon
well bongland at least
>>39001191
good post
>>39001162
YAY!!!
>>39001227
cute
>>39001254
true true
>>39001325
kek
>>39001344
believe it
>>39001347
lifting is always good advice
>>39001445
>doing homoerotic greek
bro...
>>39001486
true
>>39001545
mecha mecha bros...
>>39001564
good post
>>39001621
akane was ranmas best girl don't @me
>>39001627
lold have a you
>>39001639
itsumoitsumoutsumogenkidesu!
>>39001649
itadakimasu!! rerorerorerorero
>>39001692
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp i like goo ne ing
>>39001717
true true
>>39001728
true good post
>>39001778
womens best friend anon

>> No.39001825

>>39001810
what's the point if it's not hairy mass replyer schizo?

>> No.39001847

>>39001825
hairy?
dunno who that is, i just reply to good posts between emmersion sessions

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>>39001782
useful pictures

>> No.39001873

>>39001857
saved

>> No.39001882

>>39001692
jotoba and jpdb

>> No.39001910

>>39001882
jpdb? The site that ranks data/diffuclty of a bunch of vns?

>> No.39001947

>>39001797
女の子のペットになりたい!

>> No.39001955

Japanese small talk is the most annoying thing

>> No.39001971

>>39001955
dunno, i like talking about my chinchin

>> No.39001976

いい天気だね

>> No.39002001

>>39001947
我がもうでも冗談じゃないだけど本当だよう

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>>39001971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN_g2jfqZvA

>> No.39002018

wonder how japanese ppl would react if you tried to toast by saying 'chin chin'

>> No.39002022

>>39001976
天気の話はいいねえ、でもまんこの話のほうがだいすき

>> No.39002047

>>39002005
yosh
>>39002018
>って...みせげくれませんか...?

>> No.39002048 [DELETED] 

>>39002022
crippled

>> No.39002154

>>39001910
yes

>> No.39002174

>>39001810
dame this jav actor guy lost a ton of weight

>> No.39002193

>>39001810
dont ever (you) me again

>> No.39002198

>>39002005
https://youtu.be/ufxypVCvpZY

>> No.39002201

>>39002022
おてんきのはなしはいいが、おれのだいすきなおまんこのはなしをしましょう

のほうがてんねんとおもいます

>> No.39002222

>>39001810
giwtwm
>>39002174
he does a lot of cardio

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>>39002022
え?万個?

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lmao japs are so autistic

>> No.39002285 [DELETED] 

>>39002262
god shes cute whats that on her lip?

>> No.39002288 [DELETED] 

>>39002222
big GET anon, im jelly and proud of you

>> No.39002289 [DELETED] 

>>39002285
dunno jam

>> No.39002297 [DELETED] 

>>39002285
sorry my tinko has herpes

>> No.39002306 [DELETED] 

>>39002222
digs
>>39002289
wanna lick it off
unless its herpes in which case id rather get it off her manko
>>39002297
fuggg its a shop... please say its a shop...

>> No.39002309

>>39001639
https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aGz8K5w_460svav1.mp4
だめ

>> No.39002335

>>39002309
wonder if og is able to transcribe this

>> No.39002342

>>39002309
dat speedy gonzales cat at 5 secs in or so

>> No.39002373

>>39002309
jamal arriving at the djt meetup

>> No.39002389

>>39002335
probably, though she couldn't correctly transcribe this
https://streamable.com/nw9lo1

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>>39002309
holy moly thats scary
tfw my country is due 8.5+ earthquake

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>>39002389
based cute and funny

>> No.39002440

>>39002309
yabai

>> No.39002466

How hard would it be to throw myself into the shin koihime serie?
It looks absolutely massive. Kinda super interesting.
Is it suicidal to try and read this stuff as my second VN?
https://vndb.org/v18649

>> No.39002486

>>39002466
heh give it a shot and see how you like it
>>39002420
japanese birds are so smart dame

>> No.39002497

>>39002373
tokui chan..

>> No.39002511

>>39002275
its kinda nice how their internet culture is stuck in 2006 or so
even their sns threads read like theyre posting in the off topic section of a bbs for some vaporware squad based shooter where youre also a furry

>> No.39002516

>>39002511
kek

>> No.39002517

>>39002466
>second VN
if you made it through one you should be ready for pretty much everything

unless you whitenoised or ignored large portions of it

>> No.39002529

>>39002466
dude you picked a crazy long vn... nice

>> No.39002532

>>39002417
>8.5
nigga where do you live, og's back at the meetup?

>> No.39002536

>>39002517
No whitenoising, I got just about everything I'd say.

>>39002529
Yeah the length plus the fact that there are 2 more vns in the serie that are just as long is what scares me the most... But I think I'll download it and give it a try.

>> No.39002555

>>39002536
what do you care how many there's in the series? if you like it then thats good, if you don't, well it doesn't matter

>> No.39002585

>>38998635
this is so fucking catchy have had it stuck in my head all day

>> No.39002590

>>39002275
probably an unpopular take, but there's something childish about them

>> No.39002609

>>39002275
lol

>> No.39002636

>>39002590
that's kinda what i like about them

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>>39001976
https://youtu.be/k2MK36q1tO4

>> No.39002667

>>39002590
>>39002636
true, especially their women

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おっぱい大好き

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq1v7DSqWtI

It's immersion time friend ゆっくりしていってね!!!

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for me its bedtime

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why isnt this "i was tired"? isnt mashita the past form?

>> No.39002726

>>39002669
this but unironically

>> No.39002747

>>39002713
nite bro
>>39002721
yes, it should be i was a little tired
>>39002686
yosh

>> No.39002755

>>39002721
you got tired in the past and now you're tired

>> No.39002761

>>39002721
疲れた means "I'm tired."
you have completed the act of getting tired

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time for morning anki

>> No.39002769

>>39002721
>when it just won't wake up

>> No.39002773

>>39002669
same but 爆乳

>> No.39002775

>>39002761
this is the best answer but he may not know that grammar point about japanese yet

>> No.39002779

>>39002713
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xke-bq0nuBQ

i love the goblin like you wouldn't believe.

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time for morning aniki

>> No.39002812

>>39002761
fuck me man, i swear you can just fit any conjunction or topic marker anywhere

boku no tsukare

you see he actually owns the tired, the tired belongs to him so the sentence means 'he is tired'

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>>39002787
>>39002765
good morning moth*rfuck*rs uwaawawawa

>> No.39002827

>>39002812
の is not a conjunction or topic marker

>> No.39002844

>>39002812
..................................

>> No.39002847

>>39002827
boku wo tsukare

you see he is the object that we are referring to so he is tired

boku wa tsukare

he is the subject of the sentence so the tired is refering to his state of bein

boku he tsukare

he is the destination of the tiredness so it means he is tired

>> No.39002862

please stop you're going to make me crippled too

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ok heres another one, how is 'up' an object we are talking about? how is it the direct object? its a fucking action

>> No.39002872

>>39002847
no
read more

>> No.39002876

>>39002812
僕の疲れを癒やすのは君だけさ
僕を疲れから守れるからさ
僕は疲れを一切感じなくなった

cant think of a sentence that would work for 僕へ疲れ

>> No.39002877

>>39002866
read a grammar book or guide jfc this is week 1 shit

>> No.39002888

>>39002866
youre thinking in english
don't fight the japanese, accept it as it is

>> No.39002891

>>39002866
に向く and を向く are two different things

>> No.39002896

>>39002866
dude, tay tay
https://streamable.com/mte30

>> No.39002897

>>39002866
this is a command anon, look up

>> No.39002923

>>39002896
yeah im currently going through it now, the issue is im a fucking retard and i dont even know the structure of english, i dont even know what the fuck a noun, verb, clause, volational imperative pronoun in the infinite state is in english let alone another language, i got a fucking C in english language in highschool, i honestly had to look up what an adverb is im not joking

>> No.39002939

>>39002923
tae kim doesnt actually explain japanese well, it's just good because it's fast to go through
use cure dolly or imabi on harder concepts

>> No.39002959

>>39002939
this
>>39002923
you need dolly sensei bro, good news is none of those words/terms/we matter

>> No.39002972

wish i could eat pizza every day and maintain a healthy body

>> No.39002984

>>39002972
you probably can but it depends on how much pizza you want to eat

>> No.39002987

>>39002972
og...

>> No.39002999

bros want to eat og every day...

>> No.39003000

i always eat pizza when bulking

>> No.39003002
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>>39002939
ok i load up imabi and click the wo section and the first thing i see is this, and i dont understand half of it, and it feels like this is just the little obvious checklist at the beginning that everyone but me understands


"Intransitive Verb: A verb that only takes a subject and does not take an object. "


what the fuck does this even mean? i genuinely can not parse the words in this sentence, a verb is a doing thing right? like walking/eating so how does that take a subject? what does that mean for a verb to 'take' a subject??

>>39002959
ok i will do cure dolly she seems cute thank you

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>>39002984
i love pizza and at some places i would end up having a whole pie to myself plus it's nutritionally unbalanced

>>39002987
the thought of og wanting to eat nothing but pizza is oddly cute

>> No.39003027

>>39003002
watch like the first 20 parts of dolly

>> No.39003030

>>39003002
also was i taught this as a kid? like are you taught how to read and write english in school? i cant remember, i feel like learning these rules will just trip me up no? why dont you just mass immerse like the way children learn? i have no idea on english sentence structure i just know what sounds right because i grew up hearing it

>> No.39003034

crazy how og simps are newfags who havent even seen her post

>> No.39003038

>>39003002
intransitive - self move
He ran.
transitive - other move
He threw the ball.

>> No.39003048

>>39003004
everything about ok is cute
>>39003002
just do your best bro, dolly is based and doesn't use any terms like that for the most part, are you a native english speaker? well it doesn't matter really

>> No.39003056

>>39003034
you've been saying this for months but she's posted relatively recently

>> No.39003058

34
lmao
>nooo you cant like og cause i don't!!1!1!

do low t tards really?

>> No.39003067

>>39003048
>native english speaker
yeah im english, it just has me worried about learning this language when i dont even know the difference between a verb/adverb in my own mother tongue lol

but i will trust you on dolly thank you for the suggestion anon :) i hope you make it

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>>39003034
true

>> No.39003074

>>39003056
yeah she posts all the time and her every post rekindles my passion, bet that tard didn't even see her cute little prehensile footskies nggghh

>> No.39003085

>>39003056
a handful of posts which were nothing like her usual self
>>39003058
dont sign your posts

>> No.39003088

>>39002747
lol is this the power of holobros??

>> No.39003091

>>39003034
anon, maybe it is not women that are the problem, but yourself

>> No.39003095

poor lad hasn't come out of the closet yet

>> No.39003102

i have all her pics saved

>> No.39003103

playing the first breath of fire and it's nothing groundbreaking at all nor is it super engaging but for some reason i can't stop playing it

>> No.39003115

how come it is people who can't get ANY women and have never interacted with them that tend to hate them? always seemed odd to me
>>39003102
same and a shrine

>> No.39003117

>>39002888
kek

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>>39003102
sigh reminds me i gooned to a cosplayer today and even saved some of her pics despite being them being only the slightest bit of suggestive god i'm such a creep...

>> No.39003128 [DELETED] 

how come simps are cancerous low iq losers seems odd huh

>> No.39003132

why is this guy so hurt

>> No.39003136

>>39003103
>not engaging
>cant stop playing it
anon...
bof1 is so awesome pacing is great too as is the plot, you get new abilities and do cool stuff the whole way through, hell even hunting is great also the chun li cameo

dame now i wanna do another playthrough of 2 and 5, 3 and 4 didn't quite connect eith me the same

>> No.39003145

>>39003132
he legit isn't well wtf lmao
>>39003115
looks like a hit

>> No.39003149

>>39003128
>>>/r9k/

>> No.39003155 [DELETED] 

imagine simping for women on 4chan talk about pathetic

>> No.39003163

damn og posters getting btfo right now

>> No.39003165

>>39003115
lmao true
>>39003074
>when i think of her cute little toes curling
bros...

>> No.39003174

this is my first time ever opening djt, who is og?

>> No.39003179

>>39003136
>pacing is great too as is the plot
pacing is okay i guess but the plot seems pretty bare bones, evil guys are doing evil things and you must stop them

>you get new abilities and do cool stuff the whole way through
i guess so but you also have to deal with the most frequent random encounter rate i've ever experienced the whole way through as well

>the chun li cameo
i just saw this, was pretty cool i guess

i'm just saying it's no ff6

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Is this umoku or ugoku

>> No.39003184

imagine hating the softest, sweetest, nicest, yummiest, prettiest, cutest, most pleasant things in all of creation just cause you are mad you cant get one

i just cant

>> No.39003185 [DELETED] 

why doesnt this faggot schizo just samefag as his own gf lmao

>> No.39003191

>>39003180
ugoku

>>39003184
women are soft, pretty, and cute but i haven't yet met a single woman who doesn't have a hidden nasty side to them even if they are outwardly sweet

>> No.39003192

>>39003184
imagine wanting that and getting nothing yeah you lost gg

>> No.39003193

>>39002721
lol @ all the dumb shit ppl said after >>39002761 which is as nuff said as it gets

>> No.39003195

>>39003179
oh, uhm, most old rpgs are like that/have auto battle options for that reason

dunno i liked the dragon empire
>no ff6
well yeah, no chrono trigger either, but eh, def in my top rpgs

>> No.39003207

>>39003193
ishidan

>> No.39003214

>>39002866
jamal be like watasi no kata ni muite

>> No.39003215

>>39003207
get over it

>> No.39003226

tabeta vs tabkatta? dont they both just mean ate?

>> No.39003229

>>39003214
u permanently crippled urself being so fixated on it that ull never know the difference intuitively at this point

>> No.39003230

>>39003195
thank god for the auto battle function because this game would be a pain otherwise
speaking of can't wait until i get my rg351p and can finally play through chrono trigger then i'll have played the big three classics of chrono, ff6, and earthbound

>> No.39003232

>>39003229
kagami wo toridasu to

>> No.39003236

>>39003232
im truly sorry about ure life lol

>> No.39003239

lmao
jaturd: lol at this
also jaturd: noo dont lol at me!1!!!

what a fragile little clown

>> No.39003252

more like i come in here and uve been here clearly all day waiting for me bc u did nothing else with ur lfie today

>> No.39003253

>>39003230
play mother 3 too its... not as good as 2 but good

>> No.39003264

>>39003253
i want to play that in japanese but i worry my contextual japanese knowledge isn't good enough to determine which words the kana only dialogue is referring to

>> No.39003267

i bought 50kg of rice today
there are two kinds of people in 10 months, those with 50kg of rice and those without

>> No.39003270

>>39003267
don't forget quinoa

>> No.39003277

rice lasts forever
everyone should have some especially right now as were on the brink of societal collapse worldwide

>> No.39003285

jamal gets it

>> No.39003292

wouldn't it be gnarly if rice were used for trade and you can buy things in its weight

>> No.39003297

>>39003292
wouldn't be the first time

>> No.39003307

>>39003214
lmao btfo

>> No.39003316

cooking rice with a hobo stove out in the woods reading classic mangas while the world falls apart

>> No.39003327

>>39003267
where to get it for cheap?

>> No.39003333

>>39003285
japanese? nah

>> No.39003335

じしん

おこりすぎ

にほんの建物がまた頑丈になってしまう

>> No.39003338

>>39003264
give it a shot, who knows, you might enjoy it/figure it out along the way, its not too complicated and iirc the attacks are mostly katakana

>> No.39003352

うみのそこにしずめ

>> No.39003371

>>39003327
depends on where you are i guess, i'm in europe and it cost me like 30 dollars

>> No.39003389

Immersion time
https://youtu.be/kOTiOgQVp7g

>> No.39003404

>>39003389
interesting channel, saved

>> No.39003413

i have an easier time understanding things with the jsubs turned OFF

>> No.39003434

>>39003413
same, i just do things with no subs and focus on listening when im listening to things

>> No.39003437

>>39003389
whos this sengoku gomer

>> No.39003461

> Nukemarine
> 17 min. ago
>
> "Let's Reread Japanese - March 17, 2022" - For anyone interested, in a few minutes I'll be doing my livestream for the next few hours. Today is ~1 hour Anki review/study session followed by Let's Reread Japanese - 野ブタ。をプロデュース ep 3 (Producing Nobuta). After the stream is over, I'll also remove this message.

> Stream Link - https://www.twitch.tv/nukemarine

>> No.39003518

>Those engaged in output-input activities outperformed those exposed to the same input for the sole purpose of comprehension in learning gains; in view of the above, no support was found for the hypothesis that the effect of input enhancement was comparable to that of output.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/288260459_Testing_the_output_hypothesis_Effects_of_output_on_noticing_and_second_language_acquisition

>The major findings were (a) the comparison of pre-test scores showed a significant difference between comprehension and production of target forms by the learners, (b) after receiving treatment, the output group outperformed the control group, (c) finally, the control group failed to show comparable improvement in their production
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Forooq-Zarrabi/publication/228762793_The_Effect_of_Output_Tasks_on_the_Acquisition_of_English_Verbal_Morphemes/links/0f31753030d334bb1a000000/The-Effect-of-Output-Tasks-on-the-Acquisition-of-English-Verbal-Morphemes.pdf

>The results indicated that not only writing proficiency, but also the speaking proficiency of the experimental group had significantly improved. The findings revealed that the experimental group significantly outperformed the control group (p < .05) on the post-test.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329391063_The_Effect_of_Writing_Practice_on_Improving_Speaking_Skill_among_Pre-intermediate_EFL_Learners

>> No.39003537

>>39003518
>improvement on key english test
lmao duolingo tier fluent

>> No.39003539

>>39003518
output bros, we won

>> No.39003543

>>39003518
yep, og won
she was right all along

>> No.39003545

>>39003537
absolute cope

>> No.39003552

>>39003537
the absolute state of the "crippled"tards

lmao

>> No.39003556

>>39003539
>>39003543
watasi no katu lmfao
morons

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>>39003461
instead of watching this garbage im gonna fap

>> No.39003564

>>39003518
OUTPUT EMPRESS VINDICATED, SHE WAS ROGHT ALL ALONG

dame saving this for next she visits

>> No.39003569

>>39003560
dangerously based

>> No.39003575

>>39003564
she was insanely crippled and made a fool of herself almost every time she outputted

>> No.39003577

the papers aren't talking about only output, just that those who do both input and output outperform input only even when evaluated on comprehension.
output does indeed improve listening comprehension.
spend 75% of your time doing input/comprehensible input stuff, and 25% of your time doing various output stuff, and you'll much more improvement over the same interval of time than if you were to do only input or (somehow) only output based stuff.

>> No.39003585

>>39003577
you'll see much more improvement* sorry

>> No.39003592

>>39003577
matt already debunked this

>> No.39003601 [DELETED] 

>>39003518
n6cel sisters no... not like that... the ogchads... they wuz right... we just hated women... oh god they wuz right.... we wuz the crippled ones all along... if you know crippling you know what i mean fr fr...

>> No.39003611

>>39003592
he did not

>> No.39003614

>>39003601
lmao
>>39003577
>>39003518
yep og won
>>39003575
cope, it talks about "speed" of improvement, it also debunks the "crippled" nonsense retards spam

>> No.39003619

>>39003611
he did in many videos like the one with george

>> No.39003627

>>39003614
speed at which you become crippled lmao
og has more Ls than anyone in the thread making genki tier grammar mistakes and misuing words

>> No.39003645

>>39003619
where is the debunking in the video? i didnt see any peer reviewed study with control groups etc. in that video
comprehensible input as the necessary and sufficient condition to learn a language has been falsified. Krashen is wrong.

>> No.39003656

>>39003627
there is no crippling, people learn by making mistakes, simple as. her hypothesis that you grow by outpooting was right, you see the same in bunko, whi cares how many mistakes they make, they learn from them.

>thread ls

lmao its an anonymous board, who even fucking cares?

>> No.39003657

>>39003645
it's not lol you're not a linguist ydkj
you're ignoring all the classroom constraints too

>> No.39003658

>>39003560
onahole

>> No.39003661

>>39003560
how does she go to the washroom?

>> No.39003667

>>39003661
girls don't go there

>> No.39003668

output girl but she cant output *laugh track plays*

>> No.39003685

>>39003657
linguists do not take krashens hypothesis seriously have havent for about 30 years

>> No.39003689

>>39003656
>there is no crippling
there is
>people learn by making mistakes
they can also learn without mistakes
>her hypothesis that you grow by outpooting was right
it's not her hypothesis and no it isn't
>you see the same in bunko
bunko inputted for 10+ hours a day for years and didn't output much until he had already been learning for 2 years
>who cares how many mistakes they make
irrelevant
>thread ls
>who fucking cares?
she cared every time she had a meltdown and her failure shows outputting doesn't work

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yosh time to read

>> No.39003698

>>39003689
>there is
stopped there, see >>39003518

>> No.39003700

>>39003560
surely he's a good father and she ate his home cooked food while telling him about her school day and then went to sleep knowing her father loves her as his daughter
r-right?

>> No.39003703

Are Japanese becoming more intelligent?
>1946
Every Japanese student must graduate with knowledge of 1850 kanji
>1981
Requirement increased to 1945 kanji
>2010
Requirement increased to 2136 kanji

>> No.39003706

>>39003698
the study doesn't show that
you don't even know english

>> No.39003716

>>39003703
dame
>>39003700
y..yeah haha...
>>39003667
retard where do you think they wash?

>> No.39003717

>>39003703
no, they're becoming more literate

>> No.39003718

outputbros... we are losing...

>> No.39003719

>>39003689
do you have any papers showing an input only approach outcompeting an input-output based approach in a controlled environment?

>> No.39003730

>>39003706
the studies shows outputting and making mistakes = faster learning, if you want to say there is such a thing as "crippling", you have to prove it, papers please.

>> No.39003736

>>39003697
holy fast

gmi

>> No.39003737

>>39003719
outcompeting on what? standardized tests? lmao
get them to output and ask a native to judge how natural they sound. the output tards will sound like idiots

>> No.39003742

(((papers)))

>> No.39003744

>>39003737
this sounds like a concession, you have, you know, evidence? this isn't even anecdotal, you just made it up

>> No.39003751

>>39003737
evidence?
no a matt vs japan video is not evidence

>> No.39003753

appeal to merchant is an instant loss, also
>>>/pol/

>> No.39003757

you lost

>> No.39003763

>>39003744
you didn't post any evidence either retard those papers had a classroom setting and used standard english tests, it's like testing them on set genki phrases lol

no output tard has ever made it anyway jamal and og are the biggest output shills in the thread and they don't know any japanese even after 20 years

>> No.39003764

read the forbidden texts

>> No.39003769

yep output chads won
>nooo test don't count
ok, give evidence
>noo, its the merchants

lmao

>> No.39003774

cant believe, screnshotted, today output queen was proven right, saved

>> No.39003777

this newfag "chad" >>39003769 doesn't know output bitch thought 私の勝つ was grammatical lmfao

>> No.39003779

yaaaaaaaaaa tanosikattaze

>> No.39003787

results are in:

og == won
"crippled"tards, incels == seething

love to see it

>> No.39003788

>>39003777
i never said watashi no katsu, what are you talking about?

>> No.39003789

>>39003777
hes already n5 perma crippled 気に流れ guy let him output he cant cripple himself more lol

>> No.39003796

>>39003788
>everyone kneeled out of respect.jpg

my queen

>> No.39003799

this is literally the second day i ever posted in djt i dont know what you guys are talking about

>> No.39003805

still lol to myself every now and then when i remember that 4bc died trying to get her to do anki

>> No.39003806

>>39003799
don't mind that anon, he thinks anonymous is a user name

>> No.39003812

Uターンする。

>> No.39003823

>>39003796
what are you talking about? The only posts ive made in this thread are
>>39001778
>>39003518
>>39003577
>>39003611
>>39003645
>>39003685
>>39003719
>>39003751
>>39003788
>>39003799

>> No.39003824

so now that output is proven to be effective, how do we start

>> No.39003834

>>39003824

well uhh, do what og and bunko do i guess

>> No.39003838

how old is everyone here? serious answers please, im 27

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>>39003824
私はレズ

>> No.39003842

>>39003788
output bitch refers to a retired djt poster who went by the name of output girl, later shortened to og

>> No.39003845

>>39003824
first things first, someone go on nuke chans show and tell him

>> No.39003853

>>39003834
one outputted from day 1, the other after 2 years

>> No.39003859

>>39003824
just do input for 80% of the time and output 20% instead of just input 100%.
do everything thats already known about immersion and comprehensible input etc. but just also spend an hour a day doing output

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>>39003840
僕も、ぼくも!!!!!

>> No.39003866

>>39003859
the papers didn't say this works and you're not a linguist nor do you know japanese

>> No.39003868

>>39003763
why are u so mad that someone like me just knows japanese

u could just know japanese too if u released the hate in ur heart and stopped trying to gatekeep a language u dont know

>> No.39003869

>>39003859
makes sense, good post

>> No.39003870

>>39003868
you literally don't know shit

>> No.39003872

>>39003866
my japanese is pretty solid, but im not fluent yet.
the papers support what i said

>> No.39003877

>>39003859
will do this

>> No.39003880

>>39003872
vocaroo

>> No.39003885

>>39003870
thats correct, but that has more to do with his innate deficiencies, than with outputting not working

>> No.39003887

>>39003880
i dont know what that is

>> No.39003891

>>39003885
no output fag has ever made

>> No.39003914
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39003914

God damn, I started to read Yotsuba ,it was going well the first pages but then, as the dialogues went on, the prefixs, sufixs and colloquial expressions started to beat the shit out of me.

>> No.39003919

>>39003891
id argue the fact that jaturd even made it to the baby level he did is proof of it working

you also have bunko, if you want thread examples, and myriad others if you want irl ones

>> No.39003926

>>39003914
continue getting btfo for 2 years and you might know a little japanese

>> No.39003936

>>39003914
>when you are doing your hardest but shes not into it
dame

just relax and don't try to translate things, just accept them if that makes sense, if yotsuba says something, it is just right, if its too hard move on, if yotsuba is blowing you out try hukumusume/tadoku

>> No.39003944

>>39003919
it's been explained to you 3 times that bunko did not output until he was already 2 years and gotten thousands of hours of input, he was never an output fag
>myriad others if you want irl ones
none of them have made it, the biggest names on youtube like george trombley can't even play children's games in japanese lol they just get good at talking about the weather and other n5 topics

>> No.39003960

>>39003944
anon, everyone here has thousands of hours of input, nobody starts learning japanese without interest in the language and extensive exposure to it, you are doing the same as people who pretend people like jazzy began from absolute 0

>> No.39003965

>>39003936
yotsuba literally talks like a tard

>> No.39003973

>>39003944
also, theres tons of examples of inout only people (like nuke), who i cant imagine even being able to talk about the weather or watch anything without subs

>> No.39003985

>>39003965
yeah meant the manga not the character, i always found yotsuba the hardest character to decipher

>> No.39003986

>>39003944
I'm the guy who posted the 3 papers
I've only done input since the beginning of the lockdowns, basically all day every day and now I'm taking a Japanese class at uni, I'm by far the best in the class but my output is all wonky, they said that you'd just be able to output when the time came but I can't. That's why I wanted to see if there was any actual evidence that input only is the best way.

>> No.39003989

>>39003960
thousands of hours of english subbed content is not the same, we are talking about hours spent consuming media in japanese and trying to understand what is being communicated
bunko had thousands of hours of practice with that, og didn't and look at the huge difference in their level

>> No.39004003

>>39003986
lol

>> No.39004007

>>39003973
the fact is the vast majority of japanese learners try to output from the beginning but the vast majority of those who make it didn't do that. the output hypothesis couldn't fail more

>> No.39004023

>>39004007
this

>> No.39004031

>>39004003
basically i can understand everything being said in this video, but i wouldn't be able to say it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MvYITk6bhU

>> No.39004037

>>39003645
>i didnt see any peer reviewed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ullu_yTzuY

>> No.39004038

にほん

地震がキツすぎる

きがする

>> No.39004063

>>39003986
eh its not magical, it takes effort and practice and time and mimicking and maybe magic, keep at it
>>39003989
>>39004007
you know, i just realized we were talking about different things because i come at it with the idea that people have "already" been trying to understand stuff "before" counting their start date, but you see their start date differently than i do

we don't usually see eye to eye but this has been a good conversation, thanks anon, i will think about this, take the w if you want it cause thinking about it, i agree with you that outputting from "0" is maybe a bad idea, i just assume most nobody is at 0.

i also think people like nuke don't improve cause they aren't trying to communicate, and ditto the "ecelebrity" in the thread, while i clearly see quick improvement in people who do (again improvement doesn't mean no mistakes)

gonna leave the convo here, thanks

>> No.39004089

>>39004031
yeah thats normal, if outputting correctly was easy everyone would do it, your output will always lag what you are able to understand
>>39004037
problem with that is that it doesnt say sceptics are right, it says that everyone is making shit up (which i agree with), which ends with (make your own judgements)(which i also agree with), but id still weight most papers over most sceptics, depending on eh... a lot of things

>> No.39004171

>>39003926
Im doing johns method so hopefully i acquire it around 1 year.

>>39003936
if yotsuba is blowing you out try hukumusume/tadoku
I still get the general idea of what they are saying even if i dont get 100% of the grammar
I finished tadoku lvl 1 today, I will check hukumusume tomorrow , for now Im going to end the day with mitsuboshi colours chapter 1

>> No.39004176

>>39004089
skeptics are usually wrong but intellectual circles shit on them anyway so it's not interesting to me. what's interesting to me are the authorities that intellectuals take seriously despite actually sucking ass.

>> No.39004224

>>39004176
good post, agree
>>39004171
its just patience and giving it a go every day don't get frustrated, if you need a quick ego boost, try rereading on succesive days things youve already read and see how much faster/better you get
its just hard to feel the improvement as it happens

>> No.39004227

>>39004037
based sean last poster

>> No.39004232

sean last says you should learn stats instead of japanese

>> No.39004275

who

>> No.39004288
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>>39004232
you get significantly less slutty gyaru jks with stats than japanese tho
>>39004275
sean last, never heard of the guy and even i gathered that, cmon bro learn english

>> No.39004294

>>39004232
why curse myself with knowing the truth of things when I can watch anime without subs

>> No.39004302

Yosh
Reps done
Immersion time!
https://files.catbox.moe/zjuakw.png

>> No.39004303

88
what

>> No.39004311

>>39004037
academics are literally snakes, my supervisor got himself redacted because some cunt handed him something that he said it was something else so that the experiment would yield the desired result
he got found out 5 years later, after basing 5 years of work on it and basically suicided his career

>> No.39004312

we moved away from djt and to anilist

>> No.39004327

>>39004302
dame
>>39004294
true true
03
that bear was taken to a dog shelter and had a great time
>>39004311
true true, always look at who pays for, and who benefits from research

>> No.39004329

>>39004302
when's this shit coming out

>> No.39004333

眠いからすぐ寝る
おやすみなさーい

>> No.39004335

oyatumi

>> No.39004341

>>39004333
night bro

>> No.39004360

>>39004302
god i love takedas sluts

>> No.39004371

god i love sluts

>> No.39004378

time to immerse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO33IiiZxXk

>> No.39004384
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>>39004327
nobody payed him, he'd just been lying his whole research career so he had to mess with this larger study so he wouldn't get found out

>> No.39004386

god i love sweet sensitive boys who cry

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpATifUvsn8
LETS GOOOO

>> No.39004388
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>>39004378
nice ive always wanted to eat this

>> No.39004412

>>39004388
plastic? melon pan? manko? all of them?
>>39004384
dame hope he got fucked but sorta doubt it
>>39004387
god i love kani

>> No.39004414

>>39004378
looks comfy finna make some

>> No.39004427

>>39001717
>The wernicke area and the Broca area.
the way you keep repeating this makes it look like you learned this on a wikipedia article 3 days ago

>> No.39004434

>>39003989
just do the m-cia thing that nuke has been spamming everywhere. watch the episodes once with english subs and pay attention to how the english is spoken in japanese. then watch the episode once more without subs. after 10,000 subbed anime episodes you're god like.

>> No.39004449

https://voicevox.hiroshiba.jp/

>> No.39004458

>>39004434
how's that working out for him after a decade?

>> No.39004473

>>39004388
there's a bakery up north of me that sells melon pan and choco coronets very nice

>>39004449
finally, now i can generate a voice over for all my sentences without audio

>> No.39004480

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNHV7qwUrZ8

>> No.39004485

https://streamable.com/ncn1r9
grammar test for the day

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>>39004485

>> No.39004500

>>39004449
nice

>> No.39004505
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39004505

For me, it's

>> No.39004511

>>39004449
brooooooo

>> No.39004521

ok guys i cant stop reading karada as shintai im fucking crippled im doing it constantly im not even a beginner either

>> No.39004565

>>39004521
only beginners say im not a beginner is the thing

>> No.39004642

ever since i realized there are men in japan and i would have to interact with them and not just bijins ive been depressed

>> No.39004665

>>39004007
cope and seethe

>> No.39004683

>>39004642
debunked, there are no "men" in japan, well maybe in yakuza or inaka areas or the like

>> No.39004704

>>39004683
imagine being a man and acting like a woman. wait that's not the japanese, that's you!

>> No.39004775

>>39004521
good news ur reading is correct in medical contexts

>> No.39004776

>>39004704
eeeep...!
wait... whats this...? oppai... and a manko... b..bros... bros...!!
i made it!!!

>> No.39004787

>>39004776
ngl if i got "ranma'd" id fuck *.*

>> No.39004815
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>> No.39004840

>>39004815
kek

>> No.39004850

>>39004839
>>39004839
>>39004839

>> No.39004857

>>39004787
>>39004776
eh if i was a girl id play vidya all day while muttering ara ara and the like at the mic, maybe from my bathtub and just watch the money pile in, they really live life on easy mode

>> No.39004863

>New thread 2 min ago
>Txtsubot 1 min ago
>>39004846
>>39004852
:/

>> No.39004869

>>39003824
How the ACTUAL FUCK is this even up for debate? the absolute state of this "community". "don't do output" has always be autistic weeb cope. The thing about output though is that you need a live human to monitor and correct you, which not only costs money (generally speaking), but it would force (You) to reckon with the possibility that learning an entire language just to read YA novels and watch associated cartoons might not be a good idea.
>>39004434
Even if that could work, it would require the subs to be good, which they are not 90% of the time regardless of whether you using studio subs or keikaku-tier fansubs

>> No.39004875

>>39004850
like the image but we are only on page 7 and tatsucuckhold already shit all over it so im gonna stay

>> No.39004885

>>39004869
true

>> No.39004895

>>39004850
set your bot to wait till current djt is on page 10 or gtfo. actually, gtfo anyway with that cancer.

>> No.39004942

more threads = more instances where shit can be shilled at the beginning, early threads are a net negative

>> No.39005560

>>39004869
learning japanese to live in japan or interact with japanese is actually way more embarrassing than learning it just for media. if you’re a white immigrant from the US to japan you’re probably severely mentally ill. as a white person why would you want to interact with japanese people specifically that’s weird. meanwhile if you’re learning just for media it’s a fun hobby that you incorporate into your otherwise normal life

>> No.39005646

>>39004942
>>39004942
congratulations giving superficial things greater significance merely by being in and or closer to the first post in a thread
real good hill to die on there over people blogposting and ironically giving poor advice without linking some guide

>> No.39005822

>>39005646
that op is reddit garbage

>> No.39005834

>>39005822
yeah like I said, superficial shit since being literally fucking reddit, like saying nigger, is still going to fly if it at least tries to actually say something regarding japanese language
super high bar, i know

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>>39005646
>>39005560
good posts and excellent points anon, you have made me see things in a new light, please post more, i enjoy reading your posts a lot

>> No.39005843

>>39005834
what the fuck are you trying to say

>> No.39005851

>>39005843
he's saying you are low iq in zoomerspeak

>> No.39005853

>>39005851
lol

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>>39003824
>now that output is proven
always has been
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmsBHGVbDaI

>> No.39006139

>>39004449
>loli voice at the end

UOOOHHHHHHHHH
I can now have a loli read all my anki cards
Instant gains

>> No.39006198

>>39004449
だめ the ささやき option
https://vocaroo.com/1eEHkJHwNf3e

>> No.39006492

>>39004449
yooo this is big

>> No.39006652

>>39004449
yoshi, added audio to all those ero words no one on forvo would pronounce for me

>> No.39007921

>>39006652
like what, I've yet to find one

>> No.39008436

>>39006129
本当本当

>> No.39008444

>>39006492
if true == engorge++

>> No.39011293

>>39003461
>reading stream
>did nothing but anki for almost 3 hours
さすが。。。

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