DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #3188

[Anonymous No.]

Guide: https://learnjapanese.moe/

be sure to read John's religion/story
>How I got 180/180 on N1 in ~8.5 Months!
https://rentry.org/9pe4o

But essentially what John's method religion IS:

* Start reading every day (and listening)
* Go through a grammar guide (like Tae kim or Cure Dolly)
* Go through a common vocab deck (like core2.3k)
* Mine stuff into Anki that you encounter in your Japanese media

A detailed guide of what John did can be found on
https://pastebin.com/0ANbbfHR

*John Bless your gains


Previous threads:
>>38863960 (#3187)
>>38850100 (#3186)
>>38839617 (#3185)

[Anonymous No.]

Disregard bad advice frequently posted in these threads. Things to avoid:
・any геddiт """guides""". nothing good has ever come out of геddiт.
・Itazuraneko. Outdated, hard to follow, coin miner, confusing for beginners.
・tatsumoto. It recommends targeted sentence cards, which are proven to be less effective than words cards(animecards).
・Ankidrone Starter Pack. It is based on newspapers from early 90s and additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. Try Core 2.3k instead.
・Tatsumoto. Tatsumoto is an infamous spammer. He constantly hijacks our threads to shill his shit.
He isn't an honest person. He is a hypocrite who promotes the exact opposite of what he does.
・Matrix/Telegram. Matrix is malware that runs a data mining operation. DJT has moved to Signal.
・Refold, Migaku and other for-profit companies who want to scam you.
・Namefags, don't waste your time with Attention Whores
・Download 4chan X to filter Namefags

TheMoeWay is the best resource.
be sure to read John's religion/story.

[Anonymous No.]

based john poster

[Anonymous No.]

Let's have a very productive day!

[Anonymous No.]

Do the opposite of what /djt/ shills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38876123
my future japanese wife one day
>>38875725
based john poster now with oppai

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>>38876226
do ol's really? douki bros...

[Anonymous No.]

my blissfully playing jrpgs in japanese

[Anonymous No.]

my blissfully playing rpgs in japanese

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>>38876267
your blissfully playing jrpgs in japanese what?

[Anonymous No.]

is it just me, or does japanese sound a lot more poetic than english by default?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38877048
it is just you

[Anonymous No.]

「「「「「「～～～～っっっっっっっ！？」」」」」」

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>>38877048
its not just you, when women talk im usually like meh, but when japanese women talk im like doki doki

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>>38877048
it doesn't sound poetic at all, japanese is at odds with meter and rhyme. I do think it sounds more pleasant than english though

[Anonymous No.]

japanese don't use the imperial system anymore, its fully metric

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Is there a place where I can quiz myself on inflections like what jisho shows for verbs? Would be great if there's adjectives and suffixes (stuff like でしょう, たい, etc.) too.
Ideally something that can pull out a decent amount of random words because if it's always the same word it's going to lose effectiveness too quickly I guess.

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>>38877460
those are conjugations

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>>38877478
Conjugation is a type of inflection.

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>>38877460
https://www.bunpro.jp/

[Anonymous No.]

had a lot of fun reading this morning! lets go again!!!

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>>38877460
there's only 2.5 irregular verbs and the rest of the inflections are the same.
you're obviously very new so I strongly urge you to leave this thread before somebody tricks you into wasting a ton of time doing something retarded such as >>38877494

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>>38877502
same but unironically!! jk!
>>38877505
too late

[Anonymous No.]

had a lot of fun reading and then jerking off to the doujin i was reading! lets go again!!!

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>>38877567
no im dizzy from so much immersion i cant go again...

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>>38877515
Considering what I asked I wouldn't have registered (and paid) for what seem to be a complete course. I need to know them quickly and don't have much time so I thought that repeatedly doing a quiz could have been a good way to hammer them in my head.

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>>38877670
theres not really anything like what you want from what i know, the other anon is right, all verbs use the same rules, you can hammer them down in a couple days, just learn the exceptions by themselves, the rest are always the same

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>>38877712
Alright, thank you for your help.

[Anonymous No.]

yea japanese is cool but penguins are cooler

i miss the variety in OP images

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>>38877958
true true

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>凸凹
this language is so fucking goofy

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>>38877996
holy fuck theres tetris kanji?

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>>38877505
that bitch boy was doing shitty study techniques of course he didn't succeed. whole article is a shitstorm of pathetic anki-drone cope

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anki chads... im feeling dizzy...

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>>38875725
Current thread: #3188

Previous threads:
>>38863960 #3187
>>38850100 #3186
>>38839617 #3185
>>38826708 #3184

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>>38878201
dont
https://japantoday.com/category/features/opinions/why-you-shouldnt-learn-japanese

cant believe i wasted my time reading that, its a idiot zoomer "comedy" article that manages to say nothing and take thousands of words to do so

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>>38878255
fucking loser idiot copes in the comments

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https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/t5vsgq/animecardssite/
qm winning. even reddit mods are posting threads about animecards.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm trying to figure out what the little girl says at 3:58 when she asks "do you speak Japanese?"

it is so fast and a bit slurred, I'm having trouble picking out the exact words she uses, anyone else here have better ears?

https://youtu.be/ya4x91s1GOY?t=237

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>>38878675
too much noise cant make it out, plus her dazzling beauty blinds me sorry

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>>38878835
yep the kids are really cute ngl

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>>38878675
i have no idea what your question is

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>>38878675
nihongeseで喋れる？

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>>38878675
>you don't have to study nearly that long to have a conversation like the one you just saw
that "conversation" consisted of them asking each other if they speak jap and then her saying the kid is smart so I sure hope so

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How the fuck did john do 50 new cards a day in 45 minutes? Even assuming he isn't including his reviews that still seems very fast.

[Anonymous No.]

how do you get google to ignore chink results when im searching for just a normal nihongo word

[Anonymous No.]

any update on the project uproot scam?

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>>38879099
many people have done that, shill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879145
it seems that bill has withdrawn his support
https://www.projectuproot.jp/about

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879157
NOOOOOOOOO
BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's over

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>>38879148
Maybe I just need to try harder then.

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>>38878675
was going to beat off to her but her face is so ugly

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879168
you need to immerse instead of worrying about anki

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>>38879177
I started learning like 5 days ago so not really ready for that yet. I'll probably continue core for 2 or 3 weeks then start immersing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879197
>tarted learning like 5 days ago
GO FULL ANKI
>>38865373
>>38875305

[Anonymous No.]

i need to immerse in manko

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>>38879099
he's probably including his reviews and it's not insane, keep on mind he had a strong foundation for the words he reviewed because he immersed an insane amount

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>>38879205
The first comment you quoted is exactly my plan anon. I'm also doing the cure dolly shit in the meantime as well.
>>38879220
He said he did 50 new cards of core 2k in 45 minutes everyday right after he finished kana. No foundation, complete beginner.

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>>38878287
tis guy is p. based

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>>38879209
Jk manko...jk omanko

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since when did djt accept that jazzy actually did what he wrote in his reddit post? that guy who did 6.8k reps in a day lied for two days to milk the attention before admitting he knew many words from before. in the same way, jazzy could have easily lied about being a beginner on the discord.

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大無し

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>>38879258
i haven't forgotten that you were literally going to quora and posting pajeet "studies" as cope for jazzy being better than u

[Anonymous No.]

> Nukemarine
> 13 min. ago
>
> "Let's Reread Japanese - March 7, 2022" - For anyone interested, in a few minutes I'll be doing my livestream for the next few hours. Today is ~1 hour Anki review/study session followed by Let's Reread Japanese - 結婚できない男 ep 9 (He Who Can't Marry). After the stream is over, I'll also remove this message.
>
> Stream Link - https://www.twitch.tv/nukemarine

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>>38879209
>>38879255

same, have a cute bald お猫 to tide you over bros
soon...!

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>>38879277
that wasn't me. don't divert. what's the proof he didn't lie? all he did was join a discord and say he's a beginner. failing a discord quiz isn't hard. he could've been n1 before even "starting". it's very common to restart japanese among learners.

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>>38879258
the sun and the stars exist, i know so even tho i cant touch them, or even look at the sun directly

same goes for jazzys magnificence
>>38879255
yabai

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>>38879248
>because unlike most japanese learners of english, you will get there
pretty based indeed

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>>38879331
anon i saw those posts too, they were made by Anonymous

>>38879316
cute

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>>38879248
kanji aren't words

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>>38879248
unfathomably based

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>>38879099
easy if you do vocab cards and don't care about meaning

[Anonymous No.]

what is a kanji? just a miserable pile of secrets

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879331
ngmis spend all their day questioning jazzy, gmis don't care either way and look up to him as encouragement to work harder (but they aren't so schizo as to doubt the story anyway)

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oh i believe him and i also believe doth and that's why i fear for japan's future

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>>38878255
>all the arguments are based around not getting any benefits from speaking it
what about being able to understand it? tf
>comedy
?

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>>38879394
>encouragement
are you 12? his whole shtick is based on him doing it in 8 months, so the first and most important thing to know is if he lied about when he started. it is a very natural question to ask, especially because there's almost no proof he wasn't continuing japanese from where he left off when he joined the discord.

[Anonymous No.]

new cards in my tango deck: 何もないッス

[Anonymous No.]

I wanna mine anime cards, but watching anime in front of my computer in a swivel chair is so unappealing. I want to get comfy, watch anime on my big tv and good speakers.
How can I have it both ways without hauling my pc around the house? maybe some kind of KVM switch or something?
what do you guys do?

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>>38879495
don't need proof because it isn't unbelievable

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>>38879515
Why would you need a KVM switch? Why not just hook your computer up to your TV and get a wireless keyboard and mouse?

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>>38879394
true well said

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>>38879522
some of us like having neat living spaces rather than living like this

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>>38879509
gmi!
took it easy with adding the last couple days too i was overdoing it

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>>38879522
because I have an actual space where I use my PC to do PC things instead of just being an oversized media player
in other words, this >>38879535

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>>38879520
it isn't unbelievable that he could have lied about when he started. in fact, it's that's much more believable than what he claims. since you don't need proof for things that aren't unbelievable, you should accept he lied.

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>>38879547
nah

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>>38879551
but that contradicts what you said. you must be low iq. that would explain your stance

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>>38879562
ok

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>>38879566
okay. since there is little evidence to back up his extraordinary claim, there is a very high chance he lied for internet clout. the false promises of comparable, rapid gains would betray the expectations of beginners, and it is reckless and damaging to the community to promote potential lies. since you already admit you are low iq, you should also admit i am right and not post about this again.

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>>38879608
nah

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>>38879611
why not?

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>>38879615
>>38879394

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>>38879637
ngmis spend all their day defending jazzy, gmis don't care either way and ignore him (but they aren't so schizo as to believe the story anyway)

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>>38879646
i posted 3 words total in the last 4 posts

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>>38879515
notepad and pen, note down the episode and time and do it when you get back
i do the same thing with anime and manga when i'm doing it on my ipad

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>>38879248
he's still retarded because he believes "learning kanji" is a thing and that memorizing the joyou kanji allows you to read anything which is fucking false. rest i somewhat agree with.

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>>38879650
you made over 7 posts defending him

[Anonymous No.]

me welcoming my wife home after school

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i hate ajatt for convincing people that as soon as they decide to learn japanese they need to never watch anime with english subs again. its a set-up for hating anime. you won't understand shit unless you watch at a snails pace and often not even then. it will ruin anime for you.

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>>38879671
she seems happy to see her dad

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>>38879099
hes lying unless he's doing sub 5 sec reps or he only did it for a few weeks, do the math

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Ciaran did 60-80 animecards for 3y btw

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>>38879515
dont even try to learn with anime its a waste of time do something that will get you real gains like vns or lns
anime is for casual watching just to help ur listening a little

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4bc did 60ish for a year and he's a turbo autist

[Anonymous No.]

how much did bunko get on each section of the jlpt?

[Anonymous No.]

Yep
Keep coping NGMIs
John is the way

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>>38879722
i feel like anime with japanese subs should get you huge gains because you're seeing the text and hearing it.
i don't do that though... i do vns for reading and audio drama for listening.

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>>38879722
I thought you need the audible input to start out?

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>>38879520
have you spent 8 months reading and mining japanese 6 hours a day?

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>>38879719
>>38879726
Is that faster than Quizmaster?

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>>38879745
He was doing 12hrs on the weekends too

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>>38879759
i don't remember qm's stats, i remember he was around 25ish k a year ago and then slapped a 10k proper noun deck on top when he used to put his card count in his name

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Me and my future jp gf

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879783
hot

[Anonymous No.]

i have never not slapped a woman back

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879783
GIWTWM

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>>38879783
as one that has been attacked by a crazed girlfriend before, it isn't as fun as it looks, it actually really really sucks

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>>38879394
cant look up to someone worse than me

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>>38879726
he paid a heavy droning price
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/jp/thread/35764214/#35767174

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>>38879017
ah cool, got it now, thanks

don't think she even used a particle actually

this is the kind of stuff they should teach in Genki, the actual real casual speak like kids do, not the ultra formal non-native sounding stuff that they spend all their time on

[Anonymous No.]

Let's be real
John probably learned more words though Immersion(6hrs) than mining anki.
Most people from here have ADHD and can't read for 6hrs straight.
Keep Coping

[Anonymous No.]

jizzy was already fluent in sanskrit or something so had a huge advantage over the average english speaker because the grammar patterns are basically the same. most asians living in japan become conversationally fluent within a matter of months because of this advantage

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>L
didnt read

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>>38879868
>jizzy was already fluent in sanskrit
watch his interview

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>>38879809
what set her off?

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>>38879853
for real. anki is just a memory trigger in case words don't pop up during your immersion. anki isn't for learning words.
t. anki drone

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>>38879896
And waste precious immersion time? Nah.

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>>38879853
yeah he got it right by prioritizing comprehensible immersion so early on. i spent 3 years prioritizing anki. reading for 30 minutes a day at best then mining every new word and trying to drill them all with anki. so much wasted time

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[Anonymous No.]

>16
concession accepted

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>>38879671
yabai, コドお願いします

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys not listen to the sentence audio when you're doing the core deck or something? I don't know how you guys get through the cards so quickly. It's like you're speedreading

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>>38879848
ur right there's no で, my bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879719
>>38879726
>>38879847
Are these users still in DJT, or did they graduate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879726
was 4king always like this? perhaps too many cards is what broke him
>>38879650
yeah this anon won, jazzy hater n6cels BTFO

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>>38879809
been there
>tfw when you want to cry and don't know what you do and are worried if you touch her youll spent 5 years in jail
it really isn't as fun as it looks

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>>38879995
>>38879997
something broke in 4bc after that og post
he also said that you need 50k anki cards to know japanese
i think the cards got to him

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>>38879995
they were driven away by an evil witch

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>>38879978
>Do you guys not listen to the sentence audio when you're doing the core deck or something?
Some people some people dont
>listen
imho Immersion is more value that listen to some sentece(core)

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>>38879995
4bc is gone, ciaran doesn't use a tripcode and was gone for a few months but he's back now

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879853
i have adhd and i WILL MAKE IT
GAZE UPON MY STIMULANTS AND DESPAIR
rattata bros we gmi

[Anonymous No.]

Today was a good day
Mined a bunch of words
Had 90% retention on reviews
Played some video games
Played DnD

Can't get much better than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880013
So you reckon I should skip the sentence audio and spend that time doing immersion instead?

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>>38879978
i read aloud with every card, its still 5 secs or so per card, i used to doubt fast people but you do get faster

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>>38879783
wish my gf loved me enough to whoop my ass like thisnjag

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880006
i can see bc all coomer faced going "just one more card and ill stop.. just one more...:

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880023
yep.

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>>38879995
I have not the heart to tell you the tale of 4bro, for it is one of great tragedy and sadness and for me the grief is still too near. Suffice to say, he committed murder-suicide with the woman that he loved.

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>>38879978
listen to the audio when it’s a new card, and when you fail it. if it’s not a new card and you passed it don’t listen to the aidio

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>>38880017
based, unfathomably so, did my reps, spoke with some friends, got all vampire survivor achievements, read some, played elden ring, and now im making food

[Anonymous No.]

why do you think learners get obsessed with anki?
is it a control issue? wanting to feel in control of the learning process and being uncomfortable with the spontaneity and unpredictability of natural acquisition?

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>>38880024
I read aloud with every card too, but sentence audio adds like 3-4 extra seconds so I'm hitting 8-11s total. Maybe I'm still just slow and retarded
>>38880041
Might give that a go then, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880053
Fear that they're wasting their time trying to learn this language when they could be doing something else. They get obsessed with maximising efficiency

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>>38880053
honestly, probably because anki is comfi and you get good at it and nip content is always sorta hard and annoying, and the card autists get a lot of dissonance if they don't understand EVERYTHING
im an adhd retard and have played several games, read lots of things, and had a fun with japanese and feel a ton of progress every day, never missed a day either... but i don't hover, i don't text hook, and im fine with the idea i havent made it yet, and its fine if i don't understand everything, in fact, onstead of being frustrated at what i dont get, im happy at what i do, a year ago i didn't know a single kanji

also holos

[Anonymous No.]

what the heck is 'comprehensible immersion' and where do i find it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880076
interesting. that might also explain why they are so resistant to reading more. they want to game the system and skip that step since reading for hours a day takes a significant time investment

[Anonymous No.]

>nip content is always sorta hard
holofags suck you heard it here first

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>>38880059
8 to 11 secs isn't bad, honestly im prolly around there most cards, the ones i know really well go faster tho, anyway you are gonna make it, i recognize your posts

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>>38880002
if i was in that situation i would eventually convince myself that i'm fucked and going to prison anyway and then proceed to cave her skull in
as you're posting and talking about the situation in the past tense, i'm glad that you're a much more reasonable and measured man than i will ever be

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880053
>>38880076
autism. i spreadsheets, calendars, planners, trains, etc. its only natural for me to enjoy anki i like seeing the stats go up and the summaries and all the optimizations. seeing how many words you """know""" grow by the thousands is addicting.
i replaced that with logging my reading hours and char/hour and now im actually making gains

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880098
it depends on your level...
i like to listen to NHK 青春アドベンチャー

[Anonymous No.]

can any non NEETs/people with more responsibility tell me about how much/what they do with JP on the day to day? I crawled out of the NEET cave and it’s hard to keep up.

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>>38880093
>the card autists get a lot of dissonance if they don't understand EVERYTHING
that was my problem. i had a visceral anxiety response every time i saw a word i didn't know. i had to put it in anki right away so i never had to feel that feeling again, at least for that word. i suspect i wasn't the only one with that problem.

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>>38880101
hahahaha yeah, i really do, bro im just an anonymous retard, my self worth doesn't come from being good at this, ego is the enemy of growth and learning, i just have fun and do my best every day
i like holos childlike enthusiasm, its funny, i don't get why people like you detest them, they are comfy anime girls, i get why serious business smug retards like say bc hated holos but eh
it doesn't matter, cheers bro been a good day

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone with Kindle unlimited want to rip some books? I'm looking for https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B0977PB58H?binding=kindle_edition

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880093
それを本末転倒って言うんだよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880053
There's a sense of progression. I can see how strong my vocabulary is and how long I have to go before my next goal. The fear of just jumping into reading is the fear of missing out. Sometimes the fastest and only way to get a boulder to the other end of the street is to just push it until it gets there, but that doesn't stop the pushing from being viewed as an arduous, inefficient task.

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>>38880006
>>38880012
>>38880014
>>38880043
It looks like this thread has some very interesting characters and history. I've never heard of users doing so much Anki in such a short time. I should lurk more, I am curious about the witch too

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>>38880113
uni gf anon, everything around uni is plastered with what happens if you even mildly annoy a woman, you lose your life and future right there, i have come to record EVERYTHING, and recommend people do same, it has saved my ass, i wont give more details but eh, women these days are dangerous, i love them, but eh, its like dealing with bees, you wear protection and take precautions or get stung. even if you record everything i hope you don't touch em, especially if you are fit, the world hates men and will destroy you if you give it a excuse, nobody will even listen to your side
anyways enough about that

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880167
you missed the train the witch is also dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880131
I don't have any other hobbies, I just watch and read Japanese shit. Best way is to be a NEET in all but having a job.

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>>38880138
yeah i don't do that, i have a strict "no interrupting whatever im doing" rule, thats also why i don't hover or the like, eventually the anxiety of "missing out" goes away, if whatever is important enough youll remember and look it up later, if it isn't its not worth stressing over, at least thats how i do things

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880154
>本末転倒
i feel like there is some irony in me adding this to my anki, but i couldn't stop myself...

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880167
>witch
he meant goddess, she was our eros, our input girl, og, wherever you are, ill never forget our times

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880167
her feet weren't great

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/es47m47Yli8
rip bunkbro. i wonder how many lonely housewifes i can sleep with

[Anonymous No.]

why do people like og other than she's a roastie?
always found her fucking annoying

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880220
lol i know what you mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880243
>og
>woman
= manko
easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880167
through an inexplicable turn of events the bakemono of djt have all been fuuin'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880142
dont mind that anon he is not well we all love holos here. for me its kanatan

[Anonymous No.]

ngl
Analcream sounds really shit
https://vocaroo.com/1klBjfOmqjdq

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880237
lies, she had the prehensile feet of a goddess... and the manko... oh god the manko...
>>38880240
hell be back, he always is
>>38880255
this, also she had a nice voice

[Anonymous No.]

Ankibros, how do you cope with duplicates with different readings?
額　がく　ひたい
頭　あたま　かしら
音　おと　ね
陸　おか　りく
間　あいだ　かん　ま
開ける　あける　ひらける
開く　あく　ひらく
金　かね　きん
都　と　みやこ
辛い　からい　つらい
訳　やく　わけ
表　おもて　ひょう
行き　いき　ゆき
良い　いい　よい
臭い　くさい　におい
空く　あく　すく
空　そら　から
私　わたし　わたくし
目下　めした　もっか
生　せい　なま
流行　はやり　りゅうこう
毎年　まいとし　まいねん
止める　とめる　やめる
柄　え　がら
札　さつ　ふだ
末　すえ　まつ
月日　がっぴ　つきひ
昨日　きのう　さくじつ
昨夜　さくや　ゆうべ
明日　あした　あす　みょうにち
方々　かたがた　ほうぼう
方　かた　ほう
抱く　いだく　だく
後　あと　のち
年月　としつき　ねんげつ
市場　いちば　しじょう
島　しま　とう
居る　いる　おる
家　いえ　うち
夜　よ　よる
埋める　うずめる　うめる
四　よん　し
博士　はかせ　はくし
何　なに　なん
他　た　ほか
今日　きょう　こんにち
九　きゅう　く
中　ちゅう　なか
世論　せろん　よろん
下　げ　した　もと
上下　うえした　じょうげ
上　うえ　かみ　じょう
七　しち　なな
一昨日　いっさくじつ　おととい
一昨年　いっさくねん　おととし

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880279
true true
>>38880267
unfathomably based

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880294
>she had a nice voice
TRUE
https://vocaroo.com/9G3EugAy2Iw

[Anonymous No.]

wish I grew up with parents in a stable home
guess I can cope by self inserting in japanese fiction

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880301
hint field

[Anonymous No.]

after you finish a deck do you continue reviews until every card is mature or delete the deck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880301
i make a general card with the kanji and all its readings and a couple words, and make individual cards for each reading, its annoying with the things that have no indication of what they should be, but eh, i just think all readings (say 是, which is ぜ、これ、and a bunch of other things or the nightmare one, 為 which is a ton of things)

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880318
>reviews until every card is mature
70-80%

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880324
kanji cards with all the readings what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880306
don't worry anon my mom was shit and a self-absorbed narcissist incapable of real love. at the end of the day you're still here and you have the freedom to do anything you want with your awesome mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880301
two cards.
front: 額 (1)\
back: がく

front: 額 (2)
back: ひたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880290
is he african or some jungle asian?
>>38880305
i always thought this was jamal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880301
i use my brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880326
Idgi

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880290
what the.......

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880301
get good and you will just understand them

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880346
>is he african
Greek
>
Jamal Vocaroo
https://vocaroo.com/1dvTaYVqstq4

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880290
If that really is analcream then he somehow managed to sound more annoying than I was already imagining him

[Anonymous No.]

turns out analcream is an annoying jamaican
who would've thunk it

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880338
true, same, sometimes the best thing you can do is move out, its expensive but freedom is valuable
>>38880240
im happy bunbro isn't here today, means hes had a good time with his girl (i hope), he spends most the weekends with her i think

[Anonymous No.]

wtf i hate anacreon now

[Anonymous No.]

i like anaking, shame he doesn't post here much, wonder how long its been

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880356
We are talking about Core2.3k(1.9k words), right?
Once you have 1k-1.5k mature cards you can delete the deck

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880392
>We are talking about Core2.3k(1.9k words), right?
no jalup

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880398
i don't review jalup outside of the all jap jap def card, and i don't rep those as anki cards, just look at them before bed sometimes so dunno, i do jalup in its app

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880388
youre not gonna believe it… he hasnt posted here since march

[Anonymous No.]

forced meme isnt funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880406
no way it feels like just yesterday... how time flies

[Anonymous No.]

lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880404
>i don't review jalup outside of the all jap jap def card
I’m still in the beginner deck but they’re separated by stages (ex. beginner stage 1, 2 etc)
>I do jalup in its app
oh I have the deck files

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880398
>jalup
I don't use jalup
idk, 1k senteces/vocab and delete the app.
Mine your own cards.

[Anonymous No.]

back in the day, i had an iphone 5s and i could swear that you could highlight a word and then open up a dictionary entry for it... does android have anything similar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880449
jalup is different, its uhm, grammar lessons/light reading, its not really a vocab deck, who knows im enjoying it, its just something mindless to do before bed
>>38880439
keep it separated and rep it when you feel like? i dubno if you feel like you get something out of it, rep it, if you don't, you dont, i only read the cards a couple times and "get" what they are saying, i don't try to memorize them, i treat it as reading
>>38880413
huh? whos forcing you to meme bro? couldn't be anacreon, see >>38880406

[Anonymous No.]

Analbros...
So, he lied, the reason why he didn't used his voice wasn't because of his family but because he have a shit voice lmao
https://youtu.be/OAXEjGkICrs?t=704

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880467
chrome does it, and i know so cause i had to turn it off its annoying as fuck, if you want desktop plugins on android try kiwi browser

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880467
yeah i can highlight words and send it to an app like takoboto, gtranslate, etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880467
yeah apple devices come with 大辞林 dictionary

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880318
anki is forever
(suspend every card above a 300 day interval)

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880495
>>38880496
how does it work?
my only options are: コピー、共有、すべて選択 when i tap and hold over a word.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880488
>keep it separated and rep it when you feel like?
I think I’ll do that
>something out of it, rep it, if you don't, you dont, i only read the cards a couple times and "get" what they are saying, i don't try to memorize them, i treat it as reading
I’ve been memorizing them since the beginner deck teaches a lot of core grammar and to prepare for the intermediate jap-jap deck

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880527
pixel 6 pro android 12 after pressing ...

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880541
the jap jap deck has a lot of the same words bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880546
wtf... apple sisters why don’t we have that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880546
hmm, i have a pixel 4a running android 12 and i don't get that menu on the right that you have -- would they really deny features to poor people like me who use their old phones?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880546
what do you need to run to get that? I'm on a pixel 3a

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880568
true but I have dogshit memory

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879984
on another note, isn't it always sobering when you see a 4 year old child that speaks the language you are trying to learn 10000 times better than you can

drives me nuts, because I've been studying Japanese 4 years now, and Japanese 2 year olds are better than me

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880580
>>38880587
ah it doesn't seem to work in some input boxes like discord but I can get that menu by highlighting basically anywhere with text like Firefox, play store, my notepad, etc
maybe you don't have an app that accepts the intents?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880612
me too, it is so frustrating when you forget something you learned a week ago, such an uphill battle all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880643
what app are you using that accepts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880439
I did the beginner deck of jalup some months ago and stopped repping it soon after I finished it. In hindsight I should have kept repping it for a while longer, because I ended up having to relearn stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880627
have you been surrounded by japanese your every waking moment for those past 4 years or anywhere close to that? if not then why even make a comparison it makes no sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880643 (me)
that menu pops up after I press ... here if I didn't make that clear

>>38880655
I have a bunch that seem to work like anki, Google translate, pleco (Chinese), takoboto, and kanji study

[Anonymous No.]

i keep losing friends because i never text back the people who message me. feels too めんどくさい and by the time i get around to messaging back (weeks to months later) they're done with me

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880676
thanks dude. i don't have that for whatever reason and that's okay.
now i'm depressed that i remember how slick and nice the iphone's built-in dictionary is. it's almost enough to make me switch back to an iphone for my next phone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880661
Ok maybe I’ll start repping it

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880699
ぼくも！

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880699
just text them back bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880715
sorry to hear that
it seems to be a default feature called the text selection toolbar if you wanna try looking stuff up but I'm not sure why you don't have it
https://dev.to/bigaru/providing-custom-text-selection-actions-in-android-1akc
https://material.io/design/platform-guidance/android-text-selection-toolbar.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880813
its funny i don't have it either, must be a regional thing, but i imagine there must be a way to get it

[Anonymous No.]

did any of you consider learning chinese at any point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880849
No

[Anonymous No.]

Hello! I am a newcomer here, started to learn Hiragana 11 days ago and now I'm finishing Katakana. I came from /int/'s DJT since that thread has a very weird Russian schizo and is mostly dead, also you guys seem nice!
Interesting how the website in the OP is different from the one /int/ uses (https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/)), I'll check out this one as well!

Is there something you wish you had done or avoided when you first started learning?

どうぞよろしくおねがいします。

[Anonymous No.]

>>38875725

Read the DJT guide to git gud https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/
Make targeted sentence cards (TSCs) for maximum gains.

Previous thread: >>38863960

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880905
whatever you do, don't listen to the people here who are about to reply with "I regret anki" or "vocab/animecards were the worst decision I ever made"
follow the moe way or animecards or john guide they're all good
good luck anon :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880905
basically avoid all shit guides (itazura, animecards, tmw) and read tatsumoto.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880905
The guide you follow doesn't matter too much and we have our own special breed of schizos but the most important thing to know is how important it is that you enjoy the process. If you can't enjoy learning, you probably won't make it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38875751
>>38878290
>>38879719
>>38880928
>>38875725
Disturbing facts about the so-called a*imecards and his "guide".

0) It was MattvJapan's "Sentence Cards vs Vocab Cards" video that made him known to the public. and yet, he's backstabbing Matt in his trannycord server.
1) He doesn't know Japanese, nor we have seen videos of him speaking in it.
2) He's Russian.
3) He created a fake "djt" cringecord server where he made numerous racist and trans-phobic comments. He's a racist and a white supremacist.
4) His "server" has nothing to do with the DJT Matrix space.
5) He hosts his site on Github (owned by Micro$oft).

He isn't an honest person. He is a hypocrite who promotes the exact opposite of what he does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880949
we moved away from tatusmoto, the fake djt telegram and all other russian sites

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880949
fuck M*tt

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880959
>we moved away from tatusmoto
djt recommends only tatsumoto
>the fake djt telegram
there's no "fake" djt telegram
>and all other russian sites
never used any russian sites lol. telegram is not a site and it was never recommended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880905

tatsucuckhold is a spammer and a scammer, nuff said, also the int schizo is polish

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880974
no, djt recommends anything BUT that mentally ill spammer

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880949
>he's russian
And? That's racist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880985
so basically anything except animecards and anacreon
>>38880987
>And?
i don't know, i'm not the first to mention this fact about him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880758
kinda relieved i’m not alone. posting on djt is just so much less effort and more fun
>>38880791
i think i overthink what to say. or i’m not that interested in what they’re saying so that creates dissonance, having to pretend

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880928
>good luck anon :)
Thank you! I'll make sure to check the guides you mentioned

>>38880931
>itazura
What's wrong with Itazura? It seemed good so far, I really like their kana writing training game, spent hours doing that to memorize all of them

>>38880941
>how important it is that you enjoy the process
True! So far I've been loving it, just being able to understand Kana after spending years thinking japanese was impossible to learn meant a lot to me!

>>38880976
>int schizo is polish
I might be thinking of /lang/'s schizo then, I know one of them is a russian! And a very sour one!

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881020
itazura's guide piles a bunch of shit into one bag and makes it hard for beginners to figure out what they should do.
> kana writing training game
if you start using anki, it's going to be more efficient.
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-kana-in-two-days.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880995
stop propagating stupidity then

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881020
Are you a woman?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881177
why are you asking that?

[Anonymous No.]

i think i’m gonna hit 5 hours of reading today bros!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>38875751
>>38875725
Disregard SHIT advice frequently posted in these threads. Things to avoid:
・tmw/The moe way. Patreon scam run by a turkish tranny.
・any rentry.org and геddiт """guides""". nothing good has ever come out of геddiт.
・Itazuraneko. Outdated, hard to follow, confusing for beginners.
・Anime cards (the guide by someone named QM). It recommends words cards, which are proven to be less effective than targeted sentence cards (TSCs).
・Core 2.3k. It is based on newspapers from early 90s and additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. Try Ankidrone Starter Pack instead.
・Anacreon. Anacreon is an infamous spammer. He constantly hijacks our threads to shill his shit.
・Discord servers. Discord is malware that runs a data mining operation. DJT has moved to Matrix.
・Refold, Migaku and other money grab schemes.
・Visual novels. People say they're trash because of unnatural speech and useless vocabulary. Most VNs are proprietary ー https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/

tatsumoto is the best guide.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't find Overlord anywhere with JP subs

[Anonymous No.]

Love falls apart under scrutiny. You realize it makes no sense and it dissolves.

That's why I'm thinking the Japanese tendency to avoid analysis is pretty based. And you need to avoid analysis at least until your feelings have settled to avoid changing them in the process, which is why "real-time analysis" is doubly gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880493
>i have a wife and kids to worry about
>obsesses over matt to the point he makes several videos and keeps spamming djt about him

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881224
false, love never ends

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881223
it's on kitsunekko

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881202
GMI SO HARD

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881236
damn sounds like love is ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881224
love can’t be scrutinized dummy only felt
get out of your prefrontal cortex and into your body dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881223
Nevermind, found them. I don't know why JP subs aren't included in the normal fucking torrents

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881254
this guy is gonna make it!

BROS I LOVE WOMEN! (og and holos and hanako are women is the implication)

sometimes i worry ill eat my future japanese holo gf gyaru jk babe mankos right off

[Anonymous No.]

You guys scare me sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881097
we moved away from russians

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881349
its the power of ogs pheromones, one whiff of her kampeki kirei manko and youre done

[Anonymous No.]

f 4 4bc

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879248
except for how shit sorting in japanese is

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881451
sorting what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881464
their alphabet ordering

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881480
oh i know what you mean now, paper 辞書 are impossible to use

[Anonymous No.]

dakanaito

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881364
from what

[Anonymous No.]

Finished my words for the day. Told you fuckers it would take 2 hours

[Anonymous No.]

want to learn japanese but I hate people who learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

sentence cards, not even once

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879515
no clue how beginner you are, but i just use plex and dont mine anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881622
I feel the same anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881622
why does you learning have to have anything to do with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881622
the japanese learning community is incredibly toxic compared to most language learning communities

[Anonymous No.]

sometimes i forget complete beginners can enter and be a part of this thread at any time

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1418105277
now nuke is fucking up the level of his japanese students learning english

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881762
>heike monogatari
Glad to the nips appreciate it at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881662
other communities don't have to deal with all the shit we get like tatsumoto and luddites, not to mention all the ngmi weebs, although there's less of them in this thread they're rampant elsewhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881762
im watching all of us are dead, good so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881616
kek go9d job bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881795
我らは日本語は永遠に出来ないかも知れない

[Anonymous No.]

>>38875725

Memento is a free and open source, mpv-based video player that makes studying Japanese easier with a built in popup dictionary, Anki integration, and more.

https://github.com/ripose-jp/Memento

[Anonymous No.]

what attracts you about the japanese spirit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881795
>>38881850
but making it has nothing to do with other people its about how much time you personally spend reading and listening to comprehensible input

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881897
true true
>>38881892
manko looks tasty
>>38881853
dame

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881513
I mean even if you need to look through the categories on a porn site is impossible like wtf is this ordering

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881892
Porn games.

[Anonymous No.]

'member when billy eyelash was all about not showing her salacious body

[Anonymous No.]

I've just been doing anki? How am I supposed to immerse? Anime is so fast

[Anonymous No.]

やくにたつにほんご

>ききて
>利き手

ききてはどっち？

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881928
read manga. im not that good at japanese but i can read everything by the takagi mangaka as if im fluent. and that tip works with everything, really. instead of learning japanese you can think of it as learning how to read a certain series or genre or author or type of game or whatever, because there's a lot of repeated words within the same general domain

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881917
crazy how pedos can make such beautiful art

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881928
for now keep watching anime with english subs, maybe repeat 1 episode every now and then raw. but your main immersion should be manga with furigana or visual novels

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck do you read and immerse when you have ADHD? With anki I can set a timer and it activates my hyper focus because of the adrenaline, but you can't do that with reading. So painful trying to decipher what's happening.

Help me ADHDbros, I know you're in here. The stimmies make me too fucking anxious

[Anonymous No.]

even if you don't believe in souls its crazy to realize that each of us is essentially an immaterial consciousness capable of processing waves of light and sound into meaningful experiences that we can feel in our bodies

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881853
we can't stop fucking winning memento bros!

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882014
you really do just eventually learn to love doing it enough. its very painful getting there though, even now im stopping mid chapter to post on here. just try not to beat yourself up over it and do what you can and you just eventually make it, i assure you

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881980
>>38882011
Not him but doesn't everyone says you need to start with anime with JP subs before manga so you can work on listening and your reading voice? Or is that just a meme?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882003
The love for little girls is the strongest love in the world desu!

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882040
if you were an anime fan before learning japanese you should be covered on that front for now imo, pitch accentards may say otherwise. i would really just focus on increasing your comprehension of ANY japanese as much as you can and worry about your accent once you can actually understand japanese in any capacity. personally i used visual novels to train my listening so i dont really have any advice for that other than read vns or watch easy sol anime after you get pretty comfortable reading manga

[Anonymous No.]

reading is too hard bros, im going back to anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882077
nooooo don't do it bro just read an easy cute girls mangaaaa

[Anonymous No.]

Whenever I watch moe anime I always get this feeling like there's somebody behind me glaring at me, but when I turn around nobody is there. Does anybody else get this feeling? Making it very hard to learn Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882089
same but its my dad because the pc is in the living room

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881928
You can’t learn Japanese from anime. The people who said you can are snake oil salesmen. The simple fact is that you need to just read more. Right now. Maybe you can treat yourself with a couple of episodes of raw anime when you want to relax but the majority of your immersion time should be hardcore reading of native materials and nothing else.

[Anonymous No.]

"language learning" is cargo cult behavior

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882030
wise guy jamal

[Anonymous No.]

arghhhhh I CANT FUCKING DO IT READING THIS SHIT IS TOO BORING. I'M BOOTING UP TSUKIHIME

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882084
I find the print is too small, kanji has so many tiny lines that don't really matter to a native speaker that can recognize the general shape, but trying to learn it as a foreigner those little lines make all the difference and it is really hard to see well in a typical manga

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881917
>>38882058
proprietary software is for shitheads. go back to pisscord.

[Anonymous No.]

never used anki. never will. anti anki bros! rise up! we are gmi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882119
how about you stop fucking complaing ya nigger?

[Anonymous No.]

if my legally blind ass can deal with furigana you can too

[Anonymous No.]

What if I'm illegally blind?

[Anonymous No.]

than you arent long for this world

[Anonymous No.]

wish bunko was here

[Anonymous No.]

i think i'm going blind

[Anonymous No.]

is there a japanese equivalent of twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882234
these balls

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882089
lmfao no
that might be paranoia bro
or do you feel ashamed for watching it?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

yay or nay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882398
Their is plenty of killing in Japan games/anime this is pretty dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882398
this is dumb but objectively sex is better than violence. violence literally takes away peoples lives sex gives enjoyment and pleasure (at least when done with the right person)

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882398
a country is comprised of people with different beliefs and opinions

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882125
>murder is good, love is bad

[Anonymous No.]

Is it bad to do new cards in batches? For instance is it okay have my new daily cards set at 15 and then after increase it by 15 if I want to do 30 in total? I do reviews in between which makes things more manageable for me.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm trying to transcribe this song but the synth voice is really fucking me, any ideas? It's a bit too garbled to tell if it's japanese or english

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM5D64KmXhg
(intro section has clearer voice clips, the section at 1m seems to use the same vocal bites and is what I'm transcribing)

>(?) キタコレ
>I can't help saying キタコレ
>w (?) いけ ワクテカ
>I can't help but ワクテカ

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882596
haven't watched 1000 anime, can't call yourself an otaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882673
what about 1000 jav then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882673
i've watched 45 anime i am a baby otakuuuu

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882130
Based

[Anonymous No.]

how do you people communicate with people to make friends with the same hobbies as you?
"oh yeah i jerked off to that vn"
"same"
cant talk to jp cause lack of knowledge, and they all seem to have adhd as a race
can mainly only see people as ways to get vn downloads

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882807
>and they all seem to have adhd as a race
maybe they just don't want to wait around for a slow dekinai to take 2 minutes to write watashi ha gei

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881980
this is why beginner retards shouldn't give advice, stfu

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882011
>but your main immersion should be manga with furigana or visual novels
how are you going to get good at listening

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882014
just keep switching between things bro use your adhd to your advantage

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882807
Jerking off isn't a hobby though, it's an addiction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882522
how tf is this real dude do you need to ask other people for permission to breathe or something like wtf can make it wrong if anything it makes it better cause you're spacing the words out but for real chill

[Anonymous No.]

>>38877160
>rhyme
everything they say rhymes tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882994
>and they all seem to have adhd as a race
observed from jp to jp interactions
>>38883053
talking about vn's and showing what's normally said in eng groups

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883060
I'm retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883089
>observed from jp to jp interactions
doramas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883115
no
anymore unrelated questions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879783
salsa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883142
might as well ask where you've observed them since that seems to be unrelated to it for you as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883145
damn... view same and someone mentioned that it might be chinese
i dont need the source anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883174
might as well be a fucking nigger since you seem to act like one

[Anonymous No.]

*dabs*

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882807
I don't talk about the porn that VNs have, I just talk about stuff like the plot, characters, art, music, etc. What the fuck is there to discuss about porn?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883181
your monitor is off dude

[Anonymous No.]

From now on I'm going to face things head on, no more running. I'm going to start my journey again. I'm going back the beginning, I will learn hiragana again, Then I'll start kanji and katakana. There's no more running, I'm facing it head on. There's no more trying, just doing.

What led to this realization? Yesterday I read a kanji. I read 私. I was just able to read it somehow. I felt a sense of pride and realized "I can do this". I never felt like I was getting anywhere. But after reading that kanji, I knew I was going to get it. And I realized what I'd done. And now I've gotten up.

You haven't failed. Japanese isn't hard. It's the change that is. It's only hard for you because it's new. Don't give up, get back up. You can do this. You will succeed! Good luck everyone! You hard work will payoff. Have faith in yourself, and get back up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883253
i understand what you mean about discussing porn, but i still manage to draw blanks when trying to talk about what you mentioned, without coming across as just repeating what the story told

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883286
haha, I started before you. Gonna be impregnating nippon women a month before you do

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883286
this sounds like something calvin wrote

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883307
I usually just say things like
>I like how X did things in this way
An example would be that I read Bakuman recently and told one of my friends about it. Really liked the portrayal of how rivalry between people and competition brings out the best in someone. In ways the story is a portrayal of how storytellers (and artists) have been battling it out since time memorial in shounen-esque fights, where different creators seek to break unspoken rules of different mediums and formats. One of the few times I've properly enjoyed a shounen series.

[Anonymous No.]

I got Tsukihime working with onscripter but having a very hard time finding the hook. It's over, bros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883770
try using your eyes

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883778
Not working bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883785
google handwriting input when that fails
hooking is fine when it works but dont let hooking control your life

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883814
>looking up words baaaaaaaad

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883842
did you even read my post
dont @ me again retard

[Anonymous No.]

Nevermind, it seems like my refresh rate was causing problems with tsukihime. Got it working without onscripter

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883891
>no pain no gain!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883932
if youre gonna @ me again can you reply to somethin i said and not the voices in your head retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>38883964
>say no to hooking get hookers

[Anonymous No.]

when u assume u make an ass out of u and me

[Anonymous No.]

man found dead after a hooking overdose

[Anonymous No.]

you can hook all you want just dont avoid somethin you want to play cuz you cant hook it thats all im sayin

[Anonymous No.]

i know, i'm just shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882573
hes saying KTKR キタコレ and WKTK ワクテカ

[Anonymous No.]

>>38879719
never done any animecards in my life

[Anonymous No.]

yoshi, now it's time for some breakfast. might start mining cards today.

[Anonymous No.]

hooking is degenerate

[Anonymous No.]

degeneracy is based

[Anonymous No.]

my second monitor is broken and reading is so uncomfortable now that i cant have the vinnie in full screen in one monitor and the texthooker html on the other
people who only use 1 i kneel

[Anonymous No.]

well vns were made with 1 screen in mind you just look at the pictures and read the text below

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884138
>>38876374
GTFO FAKE CIARAN

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884363
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884395
he did pure vocab cards not anigay cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884363
how you're actually learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884395
>i just did plain vocab cards
>nor were all of the cards i did vocab
what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884500
when he studied vocab it was with vocab cards
he also studied other things that were not vocab

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882522
yea

[Anonymous No.]

japanese people are boring

[Anonymous No.]

degeneracy is base (not based). I have some degenerate desires, but I wish I didn't. such is life.

on a thread-related note, I'm gonna read a little.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884760
im in it for the koe not the naiyou

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881853
this is how i picture og

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882058
true true!

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882058
nano

[Anonymous No.]

memento bros are the only ones who gonna make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882089
same but its my mom, shes been sitting on my lap and it works better, she smells so good it distracts my immersion sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

me with OG

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882185
same

[Anonymous No.]

ogのお尻を食うか？

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882687
thats not otaku thats nanpa chad

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884216
yosh!

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884894
true true
>>38884898
y..yabe!!

[Anonymous No.]

hookers, not even once

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884914
thats a male

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884914
she's eating kebab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38881853
reall nice program bro! keep it up my nigge!

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/V6D9FymmvT4 dame i love immersing

[Anonymous No.]

for the retard from the other thread, what is your mental gymnastics act for why ni narimasu means 'is'

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884805
wow og reads now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885305
you should try sex anon, maybe youd be less angry all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885037
might play sekiro, how is the japanese in it? also where can i get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885339
very difficult there's tons of made up words

>>38885305
cmon this is easy, stems from becoming

[Anonymous No.]

what's the current recommended big boy deck
t. finished improved core3k a few months back and stopped doing anki for a while but missing the dopamine hit

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885305
4bc?
>>38885339
torrent or platform of choice, all versions have japanese audio and text available, i don't remember it being super hard language wise

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885305
dno what happened in the other thread but "is" is sometimes a suitable translation whats your problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885305
ore ha gei ni natteru
>>38885320
I wish I were og, just for a day though

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885374
me too wed make your og day memorable

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885305
海賊王に俺は成る！

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885305
anon i have bad news... your monitor was off... the retard... anon it was you all along... im sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885456
poor execution keep it short and sweet

[Anonymous No.]

>>38884363
>i cant have the vinnie in full screen in one monitor and the texthooker html on the other
anon.
You should be use only one monitor
Why?
Mental delay 1-2 sec

[Anonymous No.]

bunko posted this on /int/ earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885529
i hope kobun is proud that hes now officially intermediate level

[Anonymous No.]

do you need a japanese version of windows to run vns and whatever or will any do? an

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885560
you just have to set your locale to jp
locale isnt language btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885560
no
https://learnjapanese.moe/vn/

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885529
based bunbro made it
we are all gonna make it bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885359
>all versions have japanese audio and text available
u sure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885529
mark my words, I will be posting a similar in a year's time

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885345
becoming and being aren't the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885574
>doesnt mention locale and tells you to use a vm when its not necessary
sasuga moe

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885600
yeah, i played it on pc tho, i guess there might be a version that rips the japanese audio but i kinda doubt it, the japanese audio is default and you can set text to whatever you want

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885609
t. Heidegger

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885609
ydkj

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885529
which thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885644
>>>/trash/djt

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885625
which torrent did you use?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885567
i see, can you check something for me bro?

[Anonymous No.]

>/int/

[Anonymous No.]

>/int
more like /beg

[Anonymous No.]

I'm up to a N3 level of reading and writing. I actually may be up to an N2 but I haven't had a chance to get any tests done because I am lazy and had other things on my plate.

What's the market like for translating doujin and VNs? Do translators usually do their own editing? I don't even know where to begin with this kind of stuff. I'm pretty sure i could easily translate stuff timely but I don't know what the work generally entails and if I'm better off making a fiverr account or joining a group or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885733
>>38885780
can u translate the pics into japanese for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885688
god only knows, something from the pir8 bay? it was like a year ago bro, get the game of the year edition i guess that came out more recently

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885780
kone is right

[Anonymous No.]

the dogs speech impediment doesnt change her native level bitch (looool) accent

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885817
yeah i'll probably get fitgirl's one but she usually separates the region

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885793
try joining a group of scanlators and getting some experience but imo you shouldn't be translating shit unless you actually know the languages you're working with

[Anonymous No.]

just started mining recently and i already have a 200+ card backlog even doing 40 new per day
not sure how to deal with this

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885869
>but imo
dont water it down

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885902
just keep going, it eventually fixes itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885851
icwydt

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885902
wish i had a backlog ive been missing my new cards per day target all week

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885869
Appreciate the advice. I would only be doing Japanese to English. I could probably do English to Japanese on some things but I find it harder to convert casual English to casual Japanese. I don't know if there are tons of nips pining to read American shit though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885609
good thing japanese isn't english

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886012
concepts are independent of language

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885902
if you think you have too many, make less cards. otherwise, why change anything? if you want to do 40 new cards a day, and you're hitting that mark and not having any problems with your reviews, everything should be good. if you're having trouble deciding which cards you want to mine, separate them by frequency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885635
lol your monitor hasn't been on in days

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885965
you should probably really not be translating stuff it sounds like, when you feel like you're really good wait a few more years

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886032
u need tae kim if you don't get naru

>>38885793
doujins is usually 1 man op, VNs are usually groups. there's not really money in it though unless you're living in the third world

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886032
>>38886046
translate this
結果的には利益が出ていたということになります。

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886054
Well I have no problem with casual Japanese. Figured at worst it's just a way to get experience, ya know? Appreciate the advice though.

>>38886056
That makes sense. I may try and join a group then. Maybe one of the SRW teams that do fan translations would take me on as a volunteer. I am not really looking to make big bank or anything, just more of a side hustle than anything and something to get better at Japanese with.

I don't know about you guys -- but I actually think my Japanese is pretty good, but my translation skills suck? Is that normal? I can have a conversation pretty easily in Japanese but I can't quickly translate on the fly. Same thing with reading and writing. It just doesn't come as quickly to me. Like the two languages are completely separate in my head.

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>>38886056
i mean it seems you're the one who doesn't get it and i don't know of anything that would help you

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886089
It says ur a fagit

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886134
i accept your concession

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880290
This is Kamata a Jamaican DJT discord user, I am not sure who he is speaking to sounds like nuke maybe.why are you retards spreading disinformation
>>38885793
Dont translate retard. read more

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886123
>Like the two languages are completely separate in my head.
that's pretty normal yeah, that's why most people translating manga are pretty bad because they're just doing it for japanese practice alongside deepl. people who made it further usually don't bother and quit the scene. it's more english writing than japanese reading ability that matters
groups are always looking for people so if there's a group you're interested in there's a good chance you can just reach out and get in

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>>38886215
Makes me feel a lot better. Okay, I'll go find a fan group or something and maybe I'll start there. Maybe I'll just do some free short doujin or manga requests as well for free to see what my chops for it are.

I'm glad to know I am not the only person who has that problem. I find it so hard when one of my friends asks me to translate shit for them. I've had native speakers on both sides of things ask me to translate after they just heard me speaking fluently to someone else in either language and then look at me like I'm a retard when I say "lemme think". I thought I just learned things incorrectly lel. Either way appreciate the insight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885305
do you mean になっています?
or are you talking about when people use it in keigo like when the cashier says 五百円になります

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886123
>I don't know about you guys -- but I actually think my Japanese is pretty good, but my translation skills suck? Is that normal? I can have a conversation pretty easily in Japanese but I can't quickly translate on the fly. Same thing with reading and writing. It just doesn't come as quickly to me. Like the two languages are completely separate in my head.
GMI!!
https://youtu.be/zK-UEs2wj5I?t=1216

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886089
you left off half the sentence
上のグラフを見ると、最初に投資信託を購入し始めたときよりも、投資を止めたときの方が、1口当たりの価額は下がっていますが、計算してみると、結果的には利益が出ていたということになります。
>計算してみると、ことになります。
that's just simple "if x, becomes y" statement, not the same as "is"

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885529
>2001

[Anonymous No.]

>>38880290
>nigga
lol this is the guy that was trying to cancel mutt for being a racist when he hadn't even said anything racist

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885529
>>38886370
no wonder he’s so fucking irritating and a huge attention whore. I hate zoomers

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886089
>he tries to use only part of the sentence to mislead
>he doesn't even understand the sentence
lol sasuga djt

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886326
>GMI
not as a translator

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886367
>"if x, becomes y" statement
ydkj

[Anonymous No.]

I want to go to Japan and marry an anon who's also learning japanese!

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886414
but that is literally what the anon you're trying to contradict is saying are you stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

>are you stupid
if location = djt
then stupid = yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886435
im only responding to >>38885305 >>38885609 didnt read the rest

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

SEX

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886477
Sorry sir, this is a no SEX thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886414
lets change the sentence to be extremely simple so we can compare
if i say something like
>早くしないと大変なことになります
do you think this means "it is"? it clearly doesn't, it's the same construction "if x, then y will happen"
there is a difference in nuance between this and the original statement but the fundamental meaning is the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886453
this always returns true

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886487
>lets change the sentence to something more directly comparable to the english construction
sure whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886492
depends on the lang

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886453
assignment statement in if

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886543
not true if you can draw a good comic book you can prob draw good enough furry porn to be marketable (low bar)

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886516
they're both comparable, you just think it isn't for some strange reason
the essential point of the sentence above is
"if you look at the top the graph you'll see X pattern, but if you perform a calculation, you'll see it's actually Y"
the fundamental meaning of
>計算してみると、結果的には利益が出ていたということになります。
is that if you perform a calculation, [the pattern that appears from the data] will become Y (not X)
it's not the same thing as "is" in either case

[Anonymous No.]

How hard is it to learn 2 languages at the same time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886468
but you are saying that they are different you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886593
rude

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886567
only gays are furries in japan (kemono)

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886568
my point wasn't that naru doesn't mean to become but it was that the other meaning it can have, that of 'is', isn't derived from it since they are different meanings

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886568
sure my b
is this if then
>ランチェスター戦略が定義するナンバーワンは、総合的な1位ではなく、ある部分において圧倒的、ダントツ1位のことです。すなわちオンリーワンということになります。

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886605
False, Fubuki is a furry and she's not g*y

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886638
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886617
this is still "becomes"
>ランチェスター戦略が定義するナンバーワン
they're talking about their own definition of the word, so they're saying
"OUR definition of ナンバーワン becomes X", that's why it's なる, because it's a change from the typical definition of ナンバーワン to オンリーワン
>>38886611
quote the japanese dictionary definition of なる that you consider to be "is", because to me i think you are just misunderstanding every situation like above
なっている can mean "is" in the same way that 死んでいる means "is dead", because it's referring to a state of being
but either way it's not really hard to see why なる could mean "is" because something that has "become" something now "is" that thing,

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886666
>"OUR definition of ナンバーワン becomes X",
what was their definition of ナンバーワン prior to becoming オンリーワン and when did/will that change occur
its more logical to think of it as "in this context the meaning is this contrasted with the meaning you would expect elsewhere"
you can play english gymnastics all day but its easier to admit that the grammar isnt 1:1

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886710
>what was their definition of ナンバーワン prior to becoming オンリーワン and when did/will that change occur
you're the one who is playing gymnastics with english if you think that is relevant. なる doesnt require all those stipulations
>それまでとは違う物・違う状態に変わる。
thats the definition in the dictionary. it clearly applies here because their definition changes from the original to the one that they give it
the problem you seem to be having is that these sentences can be translated to "is" in english with no issue, and it would obviously be more natural to say "our definition is x" rather than it "becomes x", but the japanese meaning is simply "becomes"

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886743
weird contrast of emphasing the simplicity of the definition in japanese while talking about its meaning in terms of english equivalents
it can be used in ways that are much more naturally expressed as is in english

[Anonymous No.]

>起きている出来事は出来事でしかないんですよ。いいよか悪いとかっていうのはないんです。
b-based!
https://youtu.be/vBkVsVUOJp8?t=423

[Anonymous No.]

quickly. i need a rundown of the most recent /DJT/ happenings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886807
>it can be used in ways that are much more naturally expressed as is in english
that doesn't mean that it means "is" in japanese though, it's just the best way of expressing the actual japanese fundamental meaning* in english is "become"
the problem is you just perceive it to mean that in a lot of situations because you don't really understand why なる is being used the way it is, and the only interpretation that makes sense to you is "is" like in the 2 sentences you quoted, one without even really understanding it (which is why you left off half of it even though it gave the phrase its full meaning)

*
>それまでとは違う物・違う状態に変わる。

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886851
absolutely nothing this thread is basically dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886851
つまらないスレになった (became)

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886855
its semantics
>the problem is you just perceive it to mean that in a lot of situations because you don't really understand why なる is being used the way it is,
im good brother
>one without even really understanding it (which is why you left off half of it even though it gave the phrase its full meaning)
admittedly im putting in very low effort

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886851
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1415594246?t=00h59m56s
check out nuke making cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886895
it's not semantics
if you think that なる can mean "is" then you should be able to open the 広辞苑 and quote the definition that corresponds to that meaning, like you could do with てしまうs submeanings, unless you think the usages you pasted are a neologism which would be even more ridiculous

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886907
its a shame koujien isnt written in english

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886899
aggravating

[Anonymous No.]

>>38882419
I've just finished Book 1 and started book 2. Big yay from me, I'd recommend it. I see it as an alternative to Tae Kim's grammar guide (or whatever else you're using for grammar). The book series won't make you fluent in anyway but gives you a good foundation in the language in an easy to follow and progressive manner.You can then follow it up after a lesson with the corresponding Youtube video to re-inforce what you've learned. I like George's style of teaching and personality. Much more enjoyable to watch than Cure Dolly that's for sure.

Of course, don't rely on just the book. Use a core Anki deck and immersion on top too as well as anything else u might want to supplement your foundation with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886940
it doesnt need to be
"is" has meanings
"なる" also has meanings
if you think those meanings overlap in some way then whichever one you think it is, or something close, will be written there

[Anonymous No.]

ore ha fucked your mom na hito ni natteiru

[Anonymous No.]

there was no wa

[Anonymous No.]

wonder what nukes wife thinks about him

[Anonymous No.]

hey /djt/, I'm Nuke Marine's wife. AMA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886956
https://ejje.weblio.jp/content/%E3%81%AB%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8B

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886743
that's fucking retarded cause the japanese themselves distinguish being being and becoming so you're just retarded and this is all mental gymnastics on your part

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886855
>and the only interpretation that makes sense to you is "is"
not japanese themselves understand it as 'is' separate from it's 'become' meaning because they mean different things

[Anonymous No.]

>>38885965
lmaod

[Anonymous No.]

>>38887029
i already agreed that なる in some cases more naturally translates to "is" in english in some cases, because the word become obviously isn't used to the same extent it is in japanese
but there's a reason you have to use a jp-eng dictionary here rather than quoting a japanese-japanese definition, and the reason is that you are trying to conform japanese to your english thought patterns about how なる is used vs what japanese people mean when they use it

[Anonymous No.]

>>38887061
mlenmaod even

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886907
>if you think that なる can mean "is" then you should be able to open the 広辞苑 and quote the definition that corresponds to that meaning,
>https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/なる
>(になります) です。でございます。
here you go

[Anonymous No.]

>>38887057
>>38887048
quote the 2 separate dictionary definitions for なる in japanese so we can avoid any confusion about what two meanings you're talking about
>>38887048
> the japanese themselves distinguish being being and becoming
this doesnt have anything to do with what im saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>38887067
>theres a reason you have to use a jp-eng dictionary to compare a japanese word to english words
tell me more
>you are trying to conform japanese to your english thought patterns about how なる is used vs what japanese people mean when they use it
im good brother you dont have to keep assuming im a retarded eop just cuz i jumped into a retarded eop debate lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>38886434
huh
this but a gyaru jk v美人, or maybe og
dunno bro seems like a lit of work to get an anon but i guess OG is anon and i live her so theres that

[Anonymous No.]

>>38887067
>>38887087

[Anonymous No.]

>>38887087
lmfao delete this

[Anonymous No.]

>>38887087
that's a keigo neologism that's considered incorrect
https://allabout.co.jp/gm/gc/473096/
i already asked about this with my first reply (>>38886315) and nobody said anything and then pasted 2 completely different usages that arent related to that so dont start that now

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>>38887048
you are arguin with 4bro, he has never lost an argument while never being right either, just let him be

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>>38887130
>https://allabout.co.jp/gm/gc/473096/
where does it say it's wrong?

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>>38887147
>「二十歳になります」が二十歳になろうとしている状態を表しているのに対し、資料やランチは、それになろうと変化している状態ではないのにおかしいのでは？ という理由ではないでしょうか。
>その意味では「です」をもっと丁寧にした表現の「（～で）ございます」を用いて「こちらが資料でございます」「ランチでございます」のほうが、違和感をもたれることもなく、自然な表現といえます。

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>>38887130
>(>>38886315)
but that entry is neither になっています nor a cashier

[Anonymous No.]

autism unfolding

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>>38887143
>never lost an argument while never being right
thats kind of based

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>>38887168
the cashier one is the exact same usage as what we're talking about now, i think you are just baiting

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>>38887182
what about the other two examples on wiktionary

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>>38887147
here, if you couldnt read between the lines on the other article this one is explicit
https://upwrite.jp/blog/14
>「になります」の間違った使い方は、「100円になります（100円の品物なので100円をください）」「あちらになります。（あそこにありますよ）」というように、単に場所やものを丁寧に言いたい時に使うのは誤りです。
>このような場合は、「100円です（でございます）」「あちらです（でございます）」という丁寧語にするのが正しい使い方です。
>「になります」は、何かが変化する時や結果をあらわす時に使うのが正しい用法です。例えば「もうすぐ夏になります」「参考になります」という使い方です。

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holy fuck, so なる *does* sometimes mean 'is'. omoro

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>>38887182
it's literally a different entry are you actually retarded
>3. ある数値に達する。金額に達する。

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dno i think you just found some nips as autistic as you which isnt hard ive found blogposts crying about all kinds of perceived linguistic sins

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sdfu

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[coʊp]

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>>38887216
that's not the same thing, that's saying something like this example
>（１）ある数値に達する。「マイナスにマイナスを掛けるとプラスに―・る」
>>38887192
they're all keigo situations

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>>38887167
doesn't say it's wrong tho...
>>38887200
this one doesn't either...

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>>38887239
>they're all keigo situations
which isn't wrong... you know keigo is actually part of japanese right

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>>38887248
>「になります」の間違った使い方は「100円になります」
>間違った使い方
what does that mean?

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>範囲 (ハンイ)
there was no ん

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>>38887178
kinda yeah, i sorta admire his autistic dedication to both winning and being wrong, from a distance

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>>38887239
>金額に達する。
isn't the same thing?

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Didn't read any autistic shit, i will naru the king of 海賊 simple as

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>>38887275
no. the example given here is explicitly >>38887200
>100円になります
it's a separate kind of usage to just regular なる when referring to 金額に達する

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>>38887294
https://youtu.be/dc2WIa2VVhM

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>>38887294
>>100円になります
yeah don't know what he is on about
https://youtu.be/x3foFHFYDz0?t=830

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>>38887267
>>「になります」の間違った使い方は「100円になります」
that's not what he wrote he wrote
>「100円になります（100円の品物なので100円をください）」
since 100円になります is obviously right, see >>38887324

[Anonymous No.]

read 0 since elden ring came out
its over...

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https://streamable.com/9vab0f

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>>38887301
kinda crazy when you think about it cause nutting to quickly is bad but also not nutting at all, therefore lasting forever is bad too

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>>38887332
what do you think the parenthesis are there? it's an explanation of the context of when it's said, which is exactly the same as the video; someone asking for payment for goods that equal that amount
nobody is claiming that people dont say wrong things

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>>38887340
didn't you read the text in elden ring?
まだあきらめないであにき！頑張りましょう！我らは出来るはなる！

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>>38887357
og if you think that every cashier in the whole country says a set phrase wrong then you're fucking retarded holy shit lmfao

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video game item descriptions dont count as reading

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>>38887350
what you need is a super sonic bro that makes you nut at just the right time

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>>38887200
what is this guy saying anyway its all implicit becomes
>あちらになります
(if youre looking for x your destination) will become atira
this isnt any different >>38886617
its literally becomes but its practically is

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>>38887372
damnit nothing fucking counts as reading with you
>>38887369
thats not og, i can tell cause og is not retarded

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>>38887369
do you think og wrote this article https://upwrite.jp/blog/14
and the hundreds like it?
also i watched the video from before and it's not really the same as what we're talking about because she's totaling up the items, she then says ~円です afterwards when actually asking for the money

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>>38887383
>og is not retarded
big if true