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I get tired of hearing how terrible America is sometimes.

Perhaps I should put it in perspective, and see how other countries are developing faster, but why does that suddenly make America the worst country in the entire world?

It just seems like everyone I know wants to criticize everything about one of the few countries in the world where you can basically do anything that doesn't harm yourself, or anyone else (when you compare that number to the countless number of countries ruled by dictators, fascists, and other totalitarian regimes).

Is America -really- that bad? Is this just jealousy? Is it rivalry?

>> No.3886703

America is a bad apple.

>> No.3886713

/jp/ - The United States of America/General

Reported.

>> No.3886722
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3886722

>Is this just jealousy?
Bingo.

>> No.3886729

you don't get it, it's not jealousy over how your "good life" is over there
the reason why we, that is, the rest of the world
hates the usa is because you idiots keep poking your noses into everything everywhere everytime
and you act like the victim countries should be grateful that you're complicating things for them
furthermore, I can never understand how the idea of "non-american" for an american automatically degrades something

e.g. USA: I WILL DECLARE WAR ON IRAQ TO STOP THE WAR IN IRAQ

you = usa government

>> No.3886730

Eurofag here. It's jealousy, but also annoyance at arrogance some Americans display (especially Republicans).

>> No.3886735

lol

>> No.3886747

>>3886729
Self-hating American detected.

>> No.3886749

>>3886729
>I can never understand how the idea of "non-american" for a european automatically improves something

>> No.3886765

>>3886747
lurk more

>> No.3886769

Russian here, I don't care.

>> No.3886814

The reason everybody likes to hate on them yankees is because they are convinced that they as a nation are the best at everything. They were that in the 1950's when everybody else was fucked over by the WW2. The 50's were a long time ago yet they still think they're so fucking great.

As it is, USA is about average among first world countries. Not especially horrible, not especially nice. Good luck trying to get an american to admit that though.

Oh, and this sure has a fucking lot to do with /jp/.

>> No.3886818

>>3886729
Fine, the US does stick its nose into more business than it should. But would Europe be better off now if the US hadn't stuck its nose into your World Wars? Wold Iraq right now be better if we just left it alone and Hussein stayed in charge?

Afghanistan should be a given because US was attacked first.

>> No.3886839

>>3886818
>Implying the US did anything in the world wars
Oh, that's enough laughing for today.

>> No.3886847

>>3886839
You're right. The US had absolutely no effect on those wars at all. What was I thinking. The rest of Europe was perfectly capable of beating Germany by itself.

>> No.3886851

>> No.3886880

>>3886847
England would not have buckled with the Eastern Front as it was.

Russia steamrolled the Eastern front, and Americas support on the western was absolutely minimal and the battles they took part in are glorified and overblown by the media in an insane amount.

England, Canada and whatever other Allies were around would have taken the shores of Normandy just as effectively as they did with the Americans.

At best, your country supplied resources and meat shields.

>> No.3886881

>>>/n/ is that way.

>> No.3886917

>>3886880
where were you educated?

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>>3886839

Troll.

>>3886818

>But would Europe be better off now if the US hadn't stuck its nose into your World Wars?

Ehhh, this is more of a complex question than you would think. The end of WWI was very very bad for the Kaiser, and though the rest of Europe was participating too, the US swiftly handed out massive amounts of butthurt to the German people as a whole, fucking them over with every single term of their surrender. This is part of what allowed Hitler to rise to power so when WWII broke out, we already sorta had our hand in that cookie jar. There were lots of people who said we shouldn't involve ourselves in that clusterfuck a second time, but then the lunarian's sneak attack forced our hand sheerly out of public sentiment if nothing else.

Some historians argue that if we had just kept our noses out of WWI, it would have burned itself out into a more equitable truce for both sides, and possibly averted round 2.

What I don't understand, though, is why people get their vaginas all sandy at random Americans who are visiting foreign countries, as if that 25 year old dude wearing a T-shirt had anything to do with WWII, or shaping any sort of current foreign policy. I can understand if said 'murrkan is being a dickhole about something, but shouting "FUCK YOU!" at me because your grandpa got killed in WWII seems just a little off-point.

>> No.3886967

>> No.3887111

>>3886940
u mad?

>> No.3887125

Ghost bumps, huh? Pathetic.

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3887139

Ya know, I'm sick and tired of seeing this everywhere I go.
and don't think I mean just online...

>> No.3887148

>>3887125
just spam this thread with touhou or something

>> No.3887181

People hate America for three reasons:

1) Jealousy
2) They're the world superpower, and people want to root for the underdog, even if the underdog is a shitty theocracy ruled by a dictator.
3) Since they're the most powerful, people assume they must be very corrupt. Because everything with a lot of power is corrupt, right? (Europeans believe this from experience)

And then there are pacifists who think every conflict on Earth can be solved with enough talking.

>> No.3887188

OVERRATED

That's basically it. A lot of Americans genuinely believe the world outside the US is a "shithole".

>> No.3887195

>>3887188
>A lot of Americans genuinely believe the world outside the US is a "shithole".

You must be hanging out with a different crowd than I.

>> No.3887208

>>3886818
>Wold Iraq right now be better if we just left it alone and Hussein stayed in charge?

Uh, yeah, kind of. Just because there was an asshole dictator in charge doesn't mean going in blowing and shit up solves anything.


>>3887181

Actually this post is a lot of why people hate americans, since they actually think like this. They automatically presume that any dissent towards them is out of jealously and that they have no serious flaws as a culture.

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3887215

Is it just me or is notion to pull out of the middle east supported only be a very loud minority? I think the West is doing wonders there.

>> No.3888544

Eurofag here, and I want to move to America someday. I heard the streets are always clean there and people are nice, fuck yeah.

>> No.3888566

This thread is the bad apple that is currently spoiling the front page!!

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>>3888566

>> No.3888600

America keeps bombing brown people, wasting money, lives, and making themselves look like asses.
Americans also tend to be overestimate their country. A lot.
It's also the last "not shitty 3rd world country" that still has a majority of religious assholes.

Aside from that, I've no issues whatsoever with the US.

>> No.3888605

Everybody complains about their policeman.
Just like everyone complains about the mods and board administration.

>> No.3888614

Countries not all that bad, it's just filled with a lot of loud mouthed idiots that are convicted of their own superiority.

>> No.3888617

>>3888566
get out
GET OUT

>> No.3888635

>But would Europe be better off now if the US hadn't stuck its nose into your World Wars? Wold Iraq right now be better if we just left it alone and Hussein stayed in charge?
What about Guatemala, Haiti, Indonesia, and Iran?

>> No.3888651

I hate America because:
Healthcare
Appalachian spillover in southeastern states
Melting pot leading to outlandish cries of political correctness. Nothing is funny.
Glenn Beck
Next to Mexico
Crappy Internet

I like America because:
Capitalism
Better than the country my parents came here from
"I'm 0.007% [insert ethnic minority here]. Give me my scholarship."
Glenn Beck can exist
Don't have to wait for good movies like the rest of the world
Jews Everywhere

>> No.3888654

>> No.3888662

>> No.3888674

>>3888654
>>3888662
Damn, it's been ages since I last saw Sexy Losers. Is the comic still going?

>> No.3888677

>>3888674
;_;
I don't like to talk about that.

>> No.3888694

>>3888651
>Jews Everywhere
Why is this a good thing? You a jew too or something?

>> No.3888697

>> No.3888699

>>3887188

You obviously don't know many Americans

>> No.3888703

>> No.3888704

I'm a foreign student in the U.S.
The country is so-so compared to where I used to live. Well, the landscapes are nice, I can't deny this, but the cars are shit, the food is average, the people are mostly dumb, the politics are ridiculous and the rights aren't that more plentiful than elsewhere.
All in all, average place. I'm going back home when I'm done sapping your knowledge.

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>> No.3888720

>>3888704
bye, come visit again.

>> No.3888722

>>3888651
>Jews Everywhere
Since when was this a good thing?

>> No.3888725

>>3888720
I will. the mountains around Seattle are fantastic, especially in autumn.

>> No.3888726

>> No.3888753

You guys are truly autistic. For some reason you amerikkans are so full of yourself that you can't take any criticism, you can't live with the thought that that not everybody think you're "fucking awesome".
You're no better then china. All this zealots patriotism of you disgust me.
You were always a nation of blind retards, and your time has passed. The world has decided he had enough of you.
Face it.

>> No.3888757

>> No.3888761

>>3888753

Actually, most Americans I know (including myself) think we're pretty shitty. The blind patriots are just the vocal retards.

>> No.3888769

>>3888753
>You were always a nation of blind retards, and your time has passed. The world has decided he had enough of you.
Then why do so many political systems (yours included, more than probably) basically bend over backwards to appease U.S. foreign policy?

Almost sounds like you haven't had enough

>> No.3888774

>>3888769
Not the anon you are replying to but it is pretty obvious by now that the country with the biggest consumer market is the USA.

Any country is basically fucked if the USA decided not to trade with them. It is as if they are being held hostage by the USA and aren't really appeasing them.

>> No.3888778

Get off your high horses, every nation is as corrupt, if not more than corrupt, than America. Just look at Italy's president, or read Sanctuary to see how corrupt GLORIOUS NIPON is.

>> No.3888785

America used to be great. Then niggers, spics and Jews came over and ruined everything.

Niggers and spics sent crime sky-high and intelligence down to depressing levels. Jews grabbed our economy by the balls and twisted it until the market crashed.

Sometimes I wish Hitler won WW2.

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3888793

Stop bumping your thread.

>> No.3888801

Whats up ISM?

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>>3888785
>America used to be great
>implying America was better prior to the addition of cultural diversity

>> No.3888810

>>3888805
>implying niggers, spics and Jews improved America
>is living under a rock because he can't see Project America is over due to insurmountable debt

>> No.3888821

>>3888810
>insurmountable debt

We've been in much worse before. If we halted Military spending, we could pay off all of our debts, foreign and local, in two years.

If we halted almost all spending(87%) we could pay it off next tax season.

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>> No.3888826

>>3888821
>If
>If
>If
>implying any of it will ever happen

At the rate we're going, our debt is going UP, not down. And fast. A soul-crushing depression is coming, it's just a matter of when.

>> No.3888832

>>3888826
That's okay, Anonymous.

I'm happy!

>> No.3888834

>>3888826

Funny you should mention soul crushing depressions. We managed to climb out of one once before, and the national debt then was about eight times as bad as it is now(by inflation).

Further, the best part about our national debt is that over half is held locally, by Americans, which makes things a bit easier.

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>> No.3888841

Europeans hate America because they refuse to believe Americans are anything but the overgeneralized stereotype that they think they are. They hypocritically berate Americans for their ignorance and even go as far as to say they derive some sick pleasure from the thought of American soldiers dying.

Also not /jp/ related, fuck off, reported.

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>> No.3888866

>>3886698
OP, it's 4chan-specific trolling sometimes fueled by stale Anglo-Dutch synarchist propaganda (which isn't strictly anti-US, it's also anti-Russian and anti-Chinese and is so ubiquitous in the media most people don't understand that they're being trained to hate on each other.)

Speaking of which, unless you're a glutton for more of this lamely evil butthurt rancor, why even bring one of these shitty offtopic national comparisons threads up?

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>> No.3888889

>>3886729
>USA: I WILL DECLARE WAR ON IRAQ TO STOP THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN
fixed

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3888898

>Is America -really- that bad?

Picture related.

/thread

>> No.3888904

>>3888834
>implying China won't nuke us if we bail on our debt for another year

>> No.3888906

>>3888866
So you are blaming anti republicans (not republicans the party but the nation state) for this constant media war against the USA?

>> No.3888909

>>3888904

Nuking the trading partner who's currency you're intimately connected to is not a good idea.

Further, China owns a mere seven billion dollars of our debt. We could pay that off with spare change if we absolutely have to.

To be honest, it'd actually be in China's best interest to continue buying our debt.

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>> No.3888915

>>3888904
>Implying Chinese nukes aren't just taped together PVC filled with used depleted uranium rounds and painted with a nuke symbol in lead paint.

>> No.3888925

I always love the "Americans are ignorant" stereotype from people abroad, where they're apparently somehow experts on an entire country the size of the United States.

Yeah.

I just chalk it up to "it's somebody to blame". After all, it's easier to point the finger at an obvious target than it is to examine your own flaws.

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>> No.3888935

>>3888898
On September 11, 2001, 7 WTC was damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower of the WTC collapsed. The debris also ignited fires, which continued to burn throughout the afternoon on lower floors of the building, with a lack of water to fight the fires. The building collapsed completely at 5:21 p.m.[1], after a critical column on the 13th floor buckled and triggered structural failure throughout.

Burning buildings fall down... who knew?

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3888937

Superior european race reporting in. American tears are making our economy stronger.

>> No.3888939

Czech here.
I'd rather be obliterated by America than by Russia.

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>> No.3889011

>>3888925

Non-Americans know a lot more about United States than Americans know about the area outside its borders. This has been actually tested. US education system is horrible.

>> No.3889012

>>3888778
I assume you mean Berlusconi? He's our Prime Minister. Not yet our President, thankyegods. That aside, carry on.

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