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Going for Ran route but the problem is to get to Hojo I have to either get pass Uesugi (which if I recall the moment you declare war on them Takeda would start crushing hojo) or go through Ieyasu and the hannys.

Or is there any way to beat the Takeda general blitz at this point ?

>> No.3884862

If you've got the Dokuganryuu family, you can bust through the raccoon dogs and the clay pots without too much trouble.

Uesugi is the way to go if you don't.
Just make sure to deploy Rance when you spot Kenshin.

>> No.3884876

>>3884862

The moment you declare war on Uesugi the Takeda would start raping Hojo, so looks like Kenshin is not the way to go.

And I'm reluctant to go through the tanuki because I'm not sure my force would hold against Ieyasu at this point.

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>>3884850

They don't do that in second game+, don't worry about it. If you do decide to cut through the south though don't worry about Tokugawa, in my first game run when I was a greenhorn I went straight for them first and still won easily.

Try to avoid war with Takeda unless you're prepared, a lot of my early games became extremely brutal because of them.

>> No.3884924

take overs only happen on the first play through

Takeda will take over the northern Hojo province if you take too long

>> No.3884945

game looks pretty awesome,name please?

>> No.3884954
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3884954

>>3884945

>> No.3884959

>>3884954
Yes i am.

>> No.3884964
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3884964

>>3884945

Adventures of Respectful to Women Dude and his sidekick Jomfy. He goes around preaching friendship and women's rights.

>> No.3884979

>>3884945
Sengoku Rance

>> No.3884996

>>3884903
Sauce on that pic?

>> No.3885020

If you have Ikkyu, there is some series of scripted events that makes it possible to capture the raccoons without having to fight them all IIRC. Check the wiki.

Hannys are piss-easy.

>> No.3885022

>>3884996
It's obviously the Rance OVA.

What the fuck are you faggots doing here ruining my weekend this early?

>> No.3885027
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>>3884996
>>3884959
>>3884945

>> No.3885050

>>3884996
Rance OVAs

>> No.3885342

WTF I'm getting attacked twice from slut institute just after I barely made it through.

And I'm on turn 25,which just keeps getting better and better after Tenshi sect decided to join the party and wage war on me even though I didn't oppress them.

>> No.3885370
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>>3885342

I've had some nation other than Takeda blitz me 4 or 5 times in a turn on just 1 star before. Combine that with the fact I was at war with multiple nations due to Kenshin route scripted events it completely broke my lines.

>> No.3885384

>>3885370

Another problem I just met is that I mostly don't have enough national power to recruit more people.

And now I'm facing major problem because of the Tenshi sect revolt the troops are starting to leave my army.

>> No.3885389

Which turn does the Honnoji event occur ?

I'm getting desperate since it's turn 20 and I still can't get past Uesugi.

>> No.3885399

>>3885389
>Which turn does the Honnoji event occur ?

Turn 90 or when five gourds are broken, whichever happens first.

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>>3885384

You'll make it through, in that game I described Takeda and Hojo took the entire right side of Japan from me.

The tenshi troop loss only happens once although it can be devastating who it hits. If you're having trouble I recommend just blitzing any small nation that's attacking you and try to wipe them out in one or two turns. If they counterattack don't defend unless they're trying to regain territory or trying to completely capture a place. Once you take a nation anything they took from you is given back, your main goal should be to just lower the amount of fronts you have to fight on.

>> No.3885422

>>3885384
You can get rid of Niwa for one NP, and if you have some characters with just above the minimum of the troop number bracket (like... 503 troops or 1014 troops), you can fire some to get to the previous bracket and gain one NP.
In that sense the Tenshi revolt did you a favor, you probably gained a couple NP when it happened.

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3885441

>>3884964
>Dad's Root Beer

>> No.3885549

>>3885399

Speaking of which,the gourd is broken once you conquered a faction right ?

>> No.3885566

>>3885549
Not immediately, sometimes events can postpone the breaking of a gourd for a little while after conquest. It can happen almost right after too, though.

>> No.3885601

I got the option of feeding Toichirou-something to speed up events. Should I do it ? Will the DA come into play faster if I chose it ?

>> No.3885607

>>3885601
Gourds will be broken right after

>> No.3885636

I'm in Ran Route and shit is really tough, even worse than Monkey Kill.

I was still beating Houjou and Tenshi sect and Akashi + Asai-Asakura declared war for no reason. When I beat Asai-Asakura, Mouri declared war and so did Uesugi. Attacking a few territories in Mouri activated Shimazu, who took over Mouri and Takuga. That started the Takeda countdown.

Now, I'm being fucked from all nations not Dokuganryuu, with the worst team I've had in any game.

>> No.3885664

>>3885636
Just remember that in the end, the only territory you really need is Oda, and the fewer territories you have at the end the easier it is for you to get there. So defend what you can but Route business takes priority. Also try to level your commanders so you can do the dungeon at the end.

>> No.3885784

>>3885636
You don't really need to conquer anything in Ran route. The only real pain will be Shimazu taking one of your women, and you can just reload until they steal a generic.
Other than that you just need to hold what you have (though you should conquer the small fries once your Permit users have taken all subterritories). Make sure to keep Saitama and it should be fine.

>> No.3885787 [DELETED] 

>>3884847
stop spamming ur shitty board on ａ ｎ o ｎ t ａ ｌ ｋ . com ok thanks and a hav a good day

>> No.3885821

Where do I need to go to capture Kurohime?

>> No.3885846

>>3885821
After Shimazu has taken one of your females, there's a random event on the next free turn. Either they'll steal another or female or Rance will be pissed and decide to counterattack. If you get a 2nd female stolen just reload until you get the Rance pissed event.
Once you've seen it, you can do a big Search check (50, I think) in Shimazu territories to kidnap Kurohime.
I've always been in one of their four original territories when it happened though, so I'm not sure if you can do it in Mouri lands.

>> No.3885856

>>3885846

I've got some territory eaten away in Cairo, and Kuge Kiyoko was stolen.

>> No.3885965

I read through this very knowledgeable thread in the archive on the Ranceverse.
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3355888

Anyway, I got some questions...

Does anyone know Omachi's skills and lv? She's marked as Diviner, so that'd be divine magic, and she's so strong, she'd have to be lv 3. If not that, then I guess she's something else.

Kouhime has "Self-protection" skill. Is that more or less "luck" on surviving situations? She also has spear lv1 which I was surprised at.

And lastly, I want to ask a question on Commander Charges. I know that if you are Sword lv 2 you can create your own technique like Rance Attack. I assumed characters that this tech was Commander Charge.
But there are some characters who are lv1 and have it (like Mouri) and those at lv2 who don't (like Ranmaru).
Explanation?

>> No.3885977

>>3885965
Commander Charge isn't a unique ability like Rance attack or By the way.

>> No.3885991

>>3885965
Why do you think Mouri is skill lv 1? He was noted in-game as being exceptionally skilled and powerful before being cursed.

And why do you think Ranmaru is lv 2? Her abilities are fairly average, aside from being fast.

~If what you know confuses you, question your assumptions.

Also, within the game at least, Omachi is Omachi tier - the single strongest (playable) character.

>> No.3886016

>>3885965
"Diviner" may be the class they gave to her in-game, but her dungeon class is "Youkai" so it's hard to tell what she is exactly.
It's also hard to tell what magic level she is; she does sound stronger than your average lvl 2. There's a pretty huge difference between 2 and 3 though, and she was defeated by Dokuganryuu Masamune who only has lvl 2 skills. She might be in the upper lvl2 range, same as Kenshin is in the upper lvl2 range (very close to 3).
"Rance Attack" and "Kentarou-kun Slash" do the exact same damage as Commander Charge so you're most likely right, Commander Charge is the generic name for a lvl2 skill special ability.
Not every lvl2 has developed this ability however, which explains why some lvl2s might not have it. Mouri having it despite being only lvl1 is puzzling, but might be because Sengoku Rance doesn't quite use the same system as previous Rance games (ninjas in Sengoku are ranged, for example). A few discrepancies are to be expected.

>> No.3886010

>>3885991
I don't "think" Mouri and Ranmaru are those levels, they ARE. You can go search through that link if you don't believe me.

>>3885977
I guess so, but in that case why can't anyone do it?

>> No.3886053

>>3886016
Thinking about it, perhaps you need to train and earn the "Commander Charge" tech. I mean, it's not like Rance and Kentarou instantly got it at birth or something. But you still need to be lv2.

As for Mouri, is it possible he's somewhat of a "bug" like Rance is? He's so tiny, yet incredibly strong and would have lived till ~200 years old, but the guy's just lv1

>> No.3886057

>>3886010
>Oh no, this is a "what if" data of what they would be like in a Rance RPG, it doesn't mean the characters shown will appear in the next Rance.

Basically, they just threw a few numbers together for popular characters without thinking too much.

I mean, lv 3 "fortune-giving vagoo" skills? lv 2 "unlucky" skill? It's obvious that at least part of it was a joke.

Also, since Masamune is a Youkai I'm pretty sure Omachi would be a Youkai.

>> No.3886064

>>3886016
Also, I guess for Youkai they don't list out specific skills; they simply just have "Youkai". Though I can see Omachi as lv3, if Masamune did beat her then I guess you're right and she's just lv2 "upper-tier"

>> No.3886078

>>3886053
Indeed, special abilities aren't gained overnight. From the requirements and events involved with getting Kentarou-kun Slash it sounds like it's not easy at all.
Now that you mention it... Mouri, even uncursed, might not be entirely human. That might serve as a reason to explain his ability despite being only lvl 1. Then again, maybe we're overthinking it... designers probably weren't looking at traditional skill levels when they gave abilities to characters. "He's kickass and reckless, let's give him Commander Charge".

>> No.3886085

>>3886064
Masamune had help from pretty much all of the Japanese humans from what I understand, and barely won. So it's possible that Omachi is stronger.

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>>3885027
I fuckin swear, I just now saw the ova and was just planning on posting this pic.

>> No.3886122

>>3886085
It's definitely possible. Most Youkai followed Omachi though, so even with all humans following Masamune it'd have been a pretty even fight. The humans were also being severely disrupted by the Soul Binder curse at the time, so Masamune's side really wasn't that strong compared to Omachi's. It might even have been weaker, and he beat her anyway.
In the end though, it's all speculation. Unless they release official data we can't say for sure (and even then the stats would be according to the judgement of the staff at AliceSoft).

>> No.3886260

>>3885965
anyone happened to have rancechronicle03.png saved from that thread?

>> No.3886509

Seeing as Sill is always kinda 2-3 levels behind Rance. Does that mean she also loses levels when Rance starts goofing off?
Cause if not, that would mean she could actually surpase Rance

>> No.3886525

So I'm reading on how to clear Shimazu bros on the wiki, cause I plan on doing them eventually...

I'm getting rage just reading this shit. One fucker can steal my maid. The little fucker my Ai. Antoher can steal Dadidouji, but I don't give a shit about her so whatever. But the last one can steal Ranmaru AND Senhime. That's what got me.

I am SO happy it's canon these fuckers get ripped to shreds by Nobunaga.

>> No.3886530

>>3886525
If they steel your waifus, you deserve it.

>> No.3886559

>>3886530
I'm gonna do it deliberately cause I'm the kind of gamer who likes to unlock as much as possible. So I'll have to sadistically go through that shit.

>> No.3886563

>>3886559
>masochistically
My bad, fix'd

>> No.3886578

>>3886530
>steel
steal. Derp
>>3886559
Well, I did it too, but I see no reason to bitch about it

>> No.3886671

>>3886578
I'm not bitching. Just sayin I hate them for stealing my women.

>> No.3886691

How do Musketeers fare as units?

>> No.3886700

>>3886691
Slap working bee on Yuzumi and you'll have the strongest single-target unit in the game.

>> No.3886783

>>3886700
Aside from that, only the blockhead blacksmith is worth it. Since he starts with 2 action flags.
All other generic musketeer units are pretty neglectable.

>> No.3886908

>>3886783
The one that hits all units from the back row is pretty nice.

>> No.3887300

>>3886908
Ah, Ootomo Sourin. He's pretty much Omachi-tier.

>> No.3888556

Question, do I need to know any of this for the first playthrough? I've been thinking of playing
this finally.

>> No.3888639

>>3888556

You will get fucked up in your first playthrough even if you know of things ahead of time. Rance considered, Owari is probably the weakest province in the game except for maybe Akashi: without second game bonuses you're not going to overcome that weakness with just skill.

>> No.3888673

>>3888639
I managed to take over everything my first play through though I will admit I did look at a guide pretty often to see what I should be doing.

>> No.3888809

>>3888673
I managed to do just fine on my first playthrough, until the demon army, got to a place with a castle battle where everything was monsters, and then my shit got fucked up and pretty much have no way to get past this, so will start over sooner or later.

>> No.3888872

>>3886260
anyone?

>> No.3888895

>>3888556
>>Question, do I need to know any of this for the first playthrough?

Yes and no. Sengoku Rance is hard on first-timers, and if you read FAQs as you play you will have an easier time of not fucking up so badly that you'd have to restart. But it's not really all that fun that way, following somebody else's walkthrough.

I suggest you play on your own and only when you hit a wall, ask for help.

>> No.3888951

>>3888895

I have had no problem on first time. Now I'm trying to go Ran route on 1 star and got fucked all over the place.

I mean, the miko base with 3 footmen guard who killed 1000 troops in 3 turn ?WTF

>> No.3888984

>>3888951
>I have had no problem on first time.

It's easy if you just constantly fight shit, ignoring all the talking, building etc. options. Some people play naturally that way, but for me it was kind of the opposite of what I normally do in games.

>> No.3889076

>>3888984

blitzing like that is usually bad, if you take a lot of territory you activate a lot of enemies and hasten events to the DA, who really causes a lot of people to suffer.

>> No.3889457

Ok, I need your help /jp/.
I'm on my second playthrough and I'm trying to get the Ran route but I can't just manage to capture Nanjo. I tried with the Light Attack technique but it just doesn't work. Any tips?

>> No.3889462

>>3889457
You have to wait till she lose her Suzaku attack.

>> No.3889476

>>3889457
Winning (Fighting?) battles against Hojo will activate Suzaku related events until Ran admits that she's scared of Suzaku. After that she becomes a high-priority-capture unit and you are almost guaranteed to capture her if you defeat her in battle.

>> No.3890531

Stay the fuck away from her while she still uses suzaku
unless you enjoy having your whole army destroyed in one attack.

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