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A thread to discuss https://twitter.com/95rn16
Latest tweet: https://twitter.com/95rn16/status/1496788217839828993?t=WuunloMvSJpCT0kgdds9-g&s=19

>> No.38745462

>>38745388
OK i must admit Rush- i mean Mikeneko is based

>> No.38745947

Please have mercy on this thread meidos, shits wierd right now

>> No.38745986

She did nothing wrong

>> No.38746001

>>38745986
She will not fuck you no matter how many times you post this

>> No.38746002

>>38745986
Literally tried to clear her name and got fucked by kore and Cover for it.

>> No.38746021

>>38746001
She is my girlfriend and did nothing wrong

>> No.38746034

>>38745388
Who's Mike

>> No.38746065

>>38746001
She's my girlfriend. I love her

>> No.38746094

>>38746034
Idk he has a cat or something

>> No.38746102

>>38745986
Fact

>> No.38746112

>>38746034
Michael Neko is a very nice girl
She has a cat
I love her a lot and she loves me too

>> No.38746138

>>38746112
is michael neko single?

>> No.38746146

>>38746001
Yes she will.

>> No.38746171

>>38745986
You don't fucking use official company accounts for personal conversations with those outside the company.
And when shit happens you don't fucking send all the logs of conversations with your managers, producers, artists and even other talents working in the company to some fucking dramatuber.
Seriously, what the fuck was she thinking?!?

>> No.38746180

>>38746171
What's the source for all of this if you don't mind spoonfeeding, I'm so lost.

>> No.38746248

>>38746171
>I am not dating/cohabiting with Mafumafu and I must prove this

>> No.38746255

>>38745986
#Russiadidnothingwrong

>> No.38746307

>>38745986
She did things wrong but she didn't deserve to get kicked out like this.
It's too much

>> No.38746344

>>38746180
My understanding is
>Around valentines day, Rushia was doing a stream
>Her discord notifications are still on
>Her boyfriend's message pops up live on stream for everyone to see
>Girlfriend experience shattered, drama ensues
>Rushia tries to tell her side of the story and explain what happened
>She does this in the most retarded way possible
>She goes to a japanese drama youtuber named Korekore (think Japanese Keemstar)
>She shares WAY too much, including internal company messages
>Korekore makes a video about it, because of course he does
>Cover finds out, Rushia gets fired for leaking company information
>Not even graduated, full on "get the fuck out" terminated
>She's on this account on twitter now

No one knows exactly what Rushia leaked to Korekore, but we do know that Korekore felt uncomfortable with sharing all of the information because he was worried it'd get him into some legal trouble. So whatever the hell Rushia shared, it was bad.

The current belief is that Rushia shared details about what other hololive vtubers were also dating, to try and go "see? Everyone else is doing it so stop dogpiling on me". Apparently Korekore told Cover about this before making his video, to see what materials he could use and what he couldn't. Korekore admitted that he was given certain materials he refuses to show, which means Cover must have been clear about what parts were absolutely out of bounds. But again, we don't know what they are.

>> No.38746387

>>38745986
Don't worry orca, you'll get to superchat her again soon

>> No.38746396

>>38746034
Successful utaite, has a lot of female fans. There's rumours he's dating a vtuber and that they even considered marrying (apparently he wanted to take her last name, Hunt) but it's just that, rumors.

>> No.38746401
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38746401

She got canned because she was dm-ing her biggest fans privately and leaking them info.

>> No.38746425

Reminder that this isnt too bad if you are a fan of Rushia. She can now just stream whatever she wants freely, and not having to deal with Hololive business anymore will be less stressful for her already fucked up mind state.

>> No.38746433
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38746433

Is this the truth

>> No.38746461

By the way, how do we know this is Rushia anyway? Kson and Coco was obvious, but I'm missing the link here.

>> No.38746463

>>38746433
Till I see the actual screenshots, I refuse to believe Rushia is that careless. Can't be THAT hard if the "proof" is all over the internet.

>> No.38746469

>>38746433
Just youtube search it?

>> No.38746512

>>38746461
Do your reps

>> No.38746531

>>38746512
I legit don't know how or what I'd be searching for. What the hell is this twitter account's name anyway? 95rn16 looks like a random string of characters and I can't read the Japanese

>> No.38746591

>>38746461
>>38746425
>>38746401
>>38746344
>>38745462
Who?

>> No.38746621

>>38746433
Might be, but I am still doubt they would fire their biggest earner just because of leaked information.

>> No.38746645

>>38746433
>>38746344
Most of this is a narrative from discord with no proof.

The only actual stuff is this -
She did get a message from a "friend" (who is a popular singer with LOTS of rabid fujo fans) while on stream, and the notification showing the message (calling her an intimate mu chan) was seen publicly on livestream
The fans from both sides immediately connected pics of their roomate accounts to suspect that they were living together.
Korekore (the dramatuber) claims rushia got in touch with him and sent chat logs of LINE to show that they weren't living together. Then he goes on to talk about her sending discord logs as well (note that this her her official hololive discord containing confidential info that she isn't authorized to share with outsiders)
Korekore concludes that they aren't dating but paints Russia as someone who has a one sided crush on the singer guy, and is obsessive about him.
The only thing he talked about refusing to show on stream was photos of rushia's house that she sent to him to prove that she lived alone.

Korekore never said anything about being uncomfortable about the amount of info shared.
There was no indication that he received any that doxxed anyone.
Discordtards are just making shit up like they usually do.

Proof for everything - https://youtu.be/dBlDJTC09SU

>> No.38746667

>>38746645
>The fans from both sides immediately connected pics of their roomate accounts to suspect that they were living together.
That shit was years ago

>> No.38746690

>>38746645
>Steamed live on 12 February
This feels like it's too old to be connected to this.

>> No.38746697

>>38746645
The latest RRAT is that she got caught sending private DM to fans. See >>38746401

>> No.38746729

>>38746697
Management has access to talents twitters they would find it ages ago. It's either fake or allowed.

>> No.38746737

>>38746690
When was the last time rushia streamed anon?
Why does cover's statement state "it has been apparent FOR SOME TIME that she HAS BEEN distributing false information to third parties and HAS BEEN leaking information, including communications regarding business matters."

>> No.38746746

>>38746729
Maybe they were lax and didn't check? And investigating on this issue made them check?

>> No.38746758

>>38746401
>she was dm-ing her biggest fans privately
that's
actually based of her

>> No.38746760

>>38746729
https://twitter.com/WhiteM0719/status/1496810010990747650
Not fake. Probably not allowed.

>> No.38746762

>>38746729
Neither fake or not-allowed,
It's just not as big a deal as uploading her fucking discord logs to some rando who doesn't even have her best interest at heart.

>> No.38746779

>>38746667
Happened again 2 weeks back when newfags found out.

>> No.38746784

>>38746762
Nah. It was 100% the private DMs via her twitter. It is not NOT allowed but she probably leaked shit in the messages which she was not allowed to spread.

>> No.38746808

>>38746737
Good point. People have been saying this can't be the right video for that reason and I just kinda went along with it I suppose. It's friggen past midnight here and I'm just here for the ride without being able to think too deeply about it, yanno?

>> No.38746831

get out of /jp/ /vt/oddlers

>> No.38746852

>>38746784
In any case, the ones sharing the DMs are still supporting her alt account. And they started sharing it a few hours back- after the announcement of her graduation.

The decision to terminate her happened in a meeting yesterday based on her tweet from last night.
So it was based on stuff that have been checking for the past couple of weeks.
Basically, once you confirm that she did indeed send korekore the discord logs, all bets are off. It's over.
The only thing people were suspecting was that he was making shit up.
But cover's statement and her tweets confirms it.
She fucked up.

>> No.38746859

>>38746831
not a vtuber, just a JP streamer
it's fair game

>> No.38746861

after all they were couple or not?
what will happen with mafumafu now? he could be in danger

>> No.38746899

>>38746861
If they were a couple she wouldn't shoot herself in the foot to try and prove they weren't
That's my final answer

>> No.38746910

>>38746401
>>38746760
you think cover doesn't give them lessons on whale handling? this is exactly what they're told to do, including saying to keep it a secret.

>> No.38746986

>>38746910
You can give lessons, doesn't mean people actually learn. Do you think Rushia is smart enough to actually learn that shit?

>> No.38747011

>>38746852
Neither way, she leaked information she is not supposed to. That is grounds for termination.

>> No.38747020

>>38746831
No

>> No.38747134

>>38746986
i'm saying what she did is what they told her to do, so sure.

>> No.38747397

our poor crossdressing friend...
https://twitter.com/sukonyan_happy/status/1496821076248068099

>> No.38747419

>>38746899
This
She wouldn't have been so desperate to risk her character and potentially money from a lawsuit and even seemingly almost actually do a flip just to prove to her fans she was single

Suggesting otherwise is fucking delusional

>> No.38747475

Frankly, if Cover didn't want this to happen, they shouldn't have so readily shit on unicorns and gachikoi. It doesn't matter what your corporate stance is overall, if a section of fans matter to the talent, it is your fucking JOB as the company to give a fuck about them too when in the context of that talent.
Their failure to properly address this is their fault

>> No.38747507

>>38747475
They addressed it and backed her up, this is what happens when people leak information they shouldn't

>> No.38747538

>>38747475
Cover backed her up and said their talents private life is none of your business. This is her leaking shit.

>> No.38747586

>>38747507
>>38747538
They didn't back her up at all,backing her up would be saying "private life is usually none of our concern, but in the case of this talent we would like to openly declare that she is not in a relationship"

Telling people who want to know she's single to fuck off is not backing her up

>> No.38747627

>>38747507
>>38747538
They announced it's not their problem and she's on her own

>> No.38747654

>>38747586
>>38747627
Telling everyone they have no restrictions and to fuck off is absolutely backing her up, this is completely on her for sending people her sensitive information

>> No.38747710

>>38747654
>talent wants people to know her private status
>company refuses to back up her desire
>surprised when she goes off on her own
Cover saying that the talents private life is not of their concern doesn't remove their liability for making it their concern when the talent expressly requests for it to be

Having her back would be telling her gachikoi "in this case, don't fuck off, she's single". Nothing else would have helped

>> No.38747756

>Rushia wants to keep her gachikoi who expect her roommate to be single
>Cover refuses to help keep them
>Cover has her back
Excuse me?

>> No.38747816

>>38747507
>>38747538
They should have assigned her an advisor the second that cursed stream ends. Tell her to only communicate and try to clear airs through proper channels. If she wants to talk to someone outside, check the content of what she'd be sharing, or tell her no and find alternatives. Or just sending her on a gardening leave until everyone forgets about the yab. And everyone almost forgot about it too.

>> No.38747878

>>38747816
>implying she'd be okay with it when she saw her gachikoi were all gone
Her gachikoi were literally waiting for her to address it, if she thought they were still in pain she'd flip out as soon as she got back anyway

The only solution for this was for Cover to care as much as she did about proving to her audience that she wasn't getting plowed by a twink, and their failure to care is their mistake

>> No.38747894

>>38747816
They could not do it, they were on vacation

>> No.38748489

I think the 全部ひどい twitcast makes more sense contextually now, it probably wasn't her breaking down from harassment by antis or upset with something mafumafu said in his revised statement stream, it was probably the day Cover informed her that her contract was terminated. She's probably been "under investigation" from it since Cover's first statement on the matter.

>> No.38749216

Pekora and Marine genuinely sad or crocodile tears

>> No.38749223

She's twitcasting right now
https://twitcasting.tv/95rn16

>> No.38749300

>>38749223
She doesn't sound daijobu...

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>> No.38749356

>>38747894
There should be people on rotational shift when it comes to an industry like this when your streamers could be streaming anytime.

>> No.38749408

>>38749300
more like diejobu

>> No.38749451

>>38749223
What did she say, I only caught the end

>> No.38749469

>>38749223
What was it about?

>> No.38749507

>>38749223
>>38749223
Damn I missed it, is she ok?

>> No.38749537

>>38746001
who knows, maybe she already has

>> No.38749611

Did anyone archive? I started listening halfway through and could only record about 6min off the whole thing

>> No.38749699

>>38749611
>>19010388
>can't say anything yet
>just wanted to talk
>please don't spread clips or images of me
>please don't spread my age
>sorry x100

>> No.38749716

As far as I could tell she didn't say anything substantial, pretty much just kept saying sorry for disappointing everyone, and that she wants to continue streaming and talking with everyone, etc.

>> No.38749972

>>38746138
If he has a gf I'm going to kill myself.

>> No.38750175

The tl;dr is she knows she should wait but instead feels emotions and because of those emotions chooses to not wait

Rush- I mean, mikeneko. She was lonely and saw fans tweeting at her saying shit like "I want to hear your voice" and wanted to reach out and talk to us before she had any of her legal stuff sorted, she talked about "things" in a very vague way(AKA legal shit in mind), apologized for not being able to say more, says she wants to be with us, says we gave her the stength to keep going, apologized a lot, etc

Do reps if you want a specific translation I'm too tired. My girlfriend is very cute.

>> No.38750187

>>38750175
I'm going to fuck your gf

>> No.38750201

>>38750175
I hope she stays strong and that she can endure and get back to streaming.

>> No.38750259

>>38750175
Hopefully she can remain professional

>> No.38750266

I'm not sure I have it in me to follow her here, it's not the same
Plus I expect her to hang out with ther kore etc. circle now

>> No.38750298

>one of your closest friends gets fired after having a mental breakdown
>you have to smile and wave and say shikatanai please support us in the future
https://youtu.be/T2X6-8adfCU
NO ONE LIKES HER
KEK
HOLOSIMPS ARE MENTAL ILL

>> No.38750305

>>38746171
I don’t believe much of what she says but I believe her about her IQ being on the low side now.

>> No.38750362

>>38746621
Her earnings are all from GFE, she wasn’t going to be top earner anymore.

>> No.38750372

>>38746002
We don't even know if it was the Korekore shit. Why are overseasfags so quick to jump there and shit on him.

>> No.38750381

>>38750187
Me too

>> No.38750385

>>38746425
It'll end up like Kson/Coco, where fans will stop watching because they realise Kson isn't exactly like Coco.

>> No.38750386

>>38750372
Does it matter whether it's kore or some other dramatuber?
She fucked up by leaking other members' information and conversations

>> No.38750392

>>38747654
Except for the story Rushia was trying to sell people was that she WASN'T in a relationship. She went on Korekore specifically to pry and prove her innocence
This is why you and everyone on twitter are so retarded about this. Rushia's story was that she was single. Backing her up would be actually running with her story. Saying it's none of their business actually just makes the rumors seem more legit and fucks over the narrative Rushia wanted.

>> No.38750397

>>38750266
>Plus I expect her to hang out with ther kore etc. circle now
I wouldn't. I'd expect kson far more than those guys

>> No.38750409

>>38746645
Ah fuck, don't tell me the house photo Rushia sent was the house of another Holo.

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>>38750298
gee i wonder why

>> No.38750443

I wanted her to do facecam damnit..maybe someday...I wanna tell her she's cute...

>> No.38750448

>>38750386
It does matter when randos are spamming Korekore around

>> No.38750464

>>38750443
You stupid pig
You don't even care about her, just go fap to some JAV

>> No.38750469

>>38750362
Except a solid majority of her gachikoi are following her now too.

>> No.38750481

>>38750464
I just want to see her smile anon jesus

>> No.38750483

>>38750469
I always followed that account..

>> No.38750485

Just woke up, I got a notification on Twitter about an hour ago about a twitcast, did anyone catch that?

>> No.38750503

>>38750266
I'll follow her if she does stream on her Youtube cause its easy, but I don't really like twitcast as a site

>> No.38750512

>>38747710
She couldn't wait 24 HOURS before going to korekore and leaking shit.

>> No.38750513

>>38750469
How many will stay once she starts streaming with guys?

>> No.38750519

>>38750485
scroll up

>> No.38750534

>>38750513
>believing that she will
Not after managing to succesfully reel in her holo purityfags she won't

>> No.38750573

>>38750512
She was quite literally freaking the fuck out just like Fandead were
If korekore didn't say what he said she never would've gone to him
if Cover let her talk in those 24 hours she never would've gone to him

Lots of coulda woulda shoulda but in the end all she did was care

>> No.38750586

I can't believe she's just gone. No graduation, don't talk about her, account is going to be pruned and cleared. After over two years this is what she gets. She didn't deserve this, she just wanted to ease our worries. She just wanted to make us happy.

>> No.38750587

>Rushia
>Bf is just a friendo
>Simps return
>Open new channel
>Become a independent VTuber
>15k bucks/m
>Easy
Simps will always be Simps no matter what.
She already made enough money.
This whole drama just show how Vtuberfags are Attention Whore and Mental Ill
t. djt

>> No.38750588

>>38750512
She was one of cover's biggest talents. As soon as this shit started they should have been ready with a manager and people to tard wrangle her and make sure she stays mentally stable and is aware they are going to deal with the issue, always reminding her to not do shit on their own.
She was an idiot but this shit wouldn't have happened if cover provided her with the support you expect a major talent should receive

>> No.38750600

>>38750573
Maybe if this didn't happen on a national holiday and management were actually there it would've been nipped in the bud instantly

>> No.38750602

>>38750586
She sure wanted to make the top SCers extra happy

>> No.38750609

>>38750586
Yeah, even if NDA breaching is grounds for termination to try to erase her like that still doesn't feel right. This is not a Hitomi Chris situation where she had barely streamed. She was part of the group for whole 2 years to end it like that and try to erase her doesn't sit right

>> No.38750625

>>38750586
Reminder that you don't actually know the Internet personalities you watch. You don't how they are IRL or if what they portray are their real selves or not.

>> No.38750633

>>38750609
Depends on what she did. Hopefully someone leaks it.

>> No.38750640

>>38750609
I'm going to archive as many videos as I can today, I don't want them to all disappear

>> No.38750661

>>38750625
Reminder that you can never be 100% certain that everyone in your life is being honest with you or not and everyone you know could be putting on a facade while they secretly think and act differently with others
See what a nothing statement that is

>> No.38750671

>>38750573
>if Cover let her talk in those 24 hours
She managed to get out a tweet saying how she's not in the state to explain, yet she couldn't post an explanation. Clearly she was able to talk even if she was told not to.
How does leaking info to korekore make more sense than just tweeting? Why are you even excusing her talking to korekore when you called everything he said a lie?

>> No.38750686

>>38745388
https://poal.me/3a90zr
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https://poal.me/3a90zr

>> No.38750691

>>38750625
Remember that you cannot conclusively say that the walls you aren't looking at aren't made of apiders

>> No.38750694

This just drives home how low IQ she is and that just makes her cuter to me. Dumb girls are cute

>> No.38750707

>Suisei
>Aqua
>Kanata

Anyone else we know of that actually showed some sadness about the news? Going to unsubscribe from everyone that didn't

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>>38750694
agree

>> No.38750742

>>38750671
Talking to korekore no matter what was a fuck-up whichever way you slice it, even if what she gave him didn't leak anything he's a clout chasing dramafaggot who clearly doesn't think highly of her at all. I get she probably thought she could trust him to get the truth out there, apparently he gave her a platform to speak about mahoto stuff years ago, but him mocking her in a recent stream clearly shows he doesn't have any interest in what's good for her at all. She definitely should have been reprimanded for that, at least. Not fired, but reprimanded harshly.

>> No.38750750

>>38750694
based, I once watched my ex struggle to figure out how to use a can opener and it was adorable

>> No.38750767

>>38750694
>>38750750
Gross

>> No.38750773

>>38750671
>She managed to get out a tweet saying how she's not in the state to explain
Given the deletion, it's clear that she was already being held back by Cover at that point
Sorta drives the point home that they were never on her side

>> No.38750791

>>38750767
shit taste

>> No.38750816

How are you guys talking yourself into a mental state where you believe she was in the right here, leaking sensitive info of other members, spreading false informations, being a mole for dramatubers etc.?

>> No.38750817

JAV debut when?

>> No.38750818

Has this changed anyone else's lives in anyway? Ever since the starting incident I've been so stressed I started hitting the gym nearly every day to calm my nerves. I've also moved my job from part-time to full time. I feel like I have to do more to take care of her even though she lives halfway across the planet

>> No.38750823

Damn i must admit she's very cute. Can't believe she's 33

>> No.38750828

>>38750816
So where's that sensitive info?

>> No.38750852

>>38750816
Just because I think she wasn't being malicious and that Cover could have handled the whole drama better so it didn't get to this point doesn't mean I think what she did was right.
She fucked up but she isn't the only one in the wrong in this whole ordeal

>> No.38750862

>>38750773
>Given the deletion, it's clear that she was already being held back by Cover at that point
Doesn't matter. She was able to get messages out when she wanted to. She never had to go to korekore for that, who you never trusted in the first place anyways.
The argument that she desperately just wanted to say something to the fans really doesn't hold at all.

>> No.38750872

>>38750816
>being a mole
Jesas dramanigger headcanon never ceases to amaze me

>> No.38750875

>>38750742
If korekore was the only leak I would say a few days formal suspension while they audit her accounts would have been enough, but the statement seems to imply that she has been doing this on multiple occasions.

>> No.38750901

>>38750862
>Doesn't matter
>Manager: "Don't say anything specific or you're fired"
>wants to tweet something
>tweets non-specifically
>still fucked over
>account permissions revoked
>needs to do something
>kore
solved the case for you

>> No.38750914

>>38750707
You didn't watch the 3rd gen stream on Pekora's channel?

>> No.38750915

>>38746307
She did deserve it, deal with it

>> No.38750942

>>38750818
I already go to the gym and work full-time
I'm saving more money since I dropped a few memberships I guess
But I will support her

>> No.38750946

They clearly ended up finding damning evidence of her leaking really bad stuff for a long time now, that's what the termination press release says anyway. It didn't say one single time and it didn't say it was just this or that.
They're saying she's been doing this for a while.

>> No.38750971

>>38750901
>Manager: "Don't say anything specific or you're fired"
How is the solution to that doing something that's defined as grounds for termination?

Also
>wants to tweet something
>tweets non-specifically
>still fucked over
>account permissions revoked
>needs to do something
>kore
All in wrong order. She went to kore before she tweeted anything.

>> No.38750982

>>38750914
Just finished it as you replied. I'm glad they could do atleast that.

>> No.38750983

>>38750946
>clearly
The implication of scale is vague enough that Cover is just trying to aggrandize their reprimanding her

They didn't even give her a chance to explain herself. I'll not be siding with an anal corporation against a dumb overly emotional girl

>> No.38751011

>>38750946
Anon, they found nothing! She was fired because they wanted to get rid of her because they're evil!

>> No.38751025

>>38750971
>How is the solution to that doing something that's defined as grounds for termination?
Small brain say public is bad but maybe private okay
>All in wrong order. She went to kore before she tweeted
Once again, Cover clearly had controls on her whenever she tweeted. She clearly couldn't tweet whatever she wanted.

>> No.38751030

>>38750971
She wanted to prove to us that nothing was going on, which is why she sent Kore info that could never have been tweeted about, such as discord dm's. If she had been guilty or didn't care about communicating with the fans there would be absolutely no reasoning to do this

>> No.38751035
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38751035

Are 33-year old women really this cute irl?
Do I still have a chance?

>> No.38751040

>>38750707
What did Aqua say? Suisei and Kanata gave out a non cold statement but cant see one from her

>> No.38751041

>>38751011
>Cover can do no wrong
ogey

>> No.38751055

>>38751030
What kind of info involving other cover staff or holo members would she possibly send him to prove she's not mafu's gf?
I don't get it.
It must be separate things.

>> No.38751057

>>38751035
Why are you posting pictures of my girlfriend

>> No.38751069

>>38751025
>Once again, Cover clearly had controls on her whenever she tweeted
They clearly didn't since she was able to tweet after korekore's stream. She could have tweeted her explanation, but didn't.

>> No.38751073

>>38751055
Oh for fucks sake anon.

>> No.38751074

>>38748489
I was thinking the same
Everyone else inside probably knew on that day too
Damn, I'm a bit more sad now

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>>38751040
I remember it being more, but I guess I misremembered. Just the same safe neutral response

>> No.38751083

>>38751030
>She wanted to prove to us that nothing was going on
Then she could have just tweeted a denial like that immediately.

>> No.38751098

>>38751041
What? Are you saying they actually found something? I'm pretty sure they had no reason to fire her like this.

>> No.38751101

>>38751083
She did tweet a denial. Multiple times. It always got deleted shortly after

>> No.38751107

>>38751069
Her speaking in vague terms and it still being nuked in minutes and her account permissions being taken away proves that somebody was figuratively breathing down her neck you dense faggot
How can you not understand that in her menhera mind saying "I want to die please stop" sounded reasonable to tweet but saying the thing she was told not to speak about wasn't
Christ almighty anon

>> No.38751115

Flare and Noel not giving a fuck is all o need to know to understand Mike fucked up big time. On some snake shit tbqhimhofrfrnocap

>> No.38751132

>>38751101
She never tweeted a denial, and she did not tweet a single thing before going to korekore.

>> No.38751143

>>38751098
>no reason
She was already having trouble at work and with her manager. Plus she's menhera and cared more about her fans than her work in the end. Probably had more than a few people dislike her.

>> No.38751147

>>38751083
A few of her deleted tweets outright stated to please not believe the lies and fabrications going around

>> No.38751148

>>38751030
This, she had two options; remain in silence and keep streaming while all her fans think she has a bf the whole time
Or risk her career and prove she wasn't dating and keep the fans at ease
She cared more about her fans than her corp job

>> No.38751151

>>38751101
No she didn't, she only said "so much false info"
At no point has she ever outright said "there's nothing between me and mafu"

>> No.38751168

>>38751107
>Her speaking in vague terms and it still being nuked in minutes and her account permissions being taken away proves that somebody was figuratively breathing down her neck you dense faggot
This STILL doesn't matter. She chose to talk to a fucking drama peddler before saying ANYTHING to her fans.

>> No.38751170

>>38751115
? Flare was the only one that seemed to not give a fuck. Noel was sad and said her name and gave out a statement. Flare just...didnt say her name, wording was really cold and she just ended up retweeti g her earlier tweet

>> No.38751191

>>38751151
If after literally everything that happened here you still think thiere was something between them god fucking help you

>> No.38751195

>>38751151
She couldn't outright say that because that would be outright linking みけねこ to her account you mong, something that is outright forbidden

>> No.38751201

>>38750946
that part's a mistranslation in the English version
correct translation:
"Recently, there have been indications that Rushia Uruha had spread information that contained falsehoods to a third party, and had leaked information that included internal communications. As a result, we carried out an investigation.

This investigation determined that she had violated her contract by leaking information obtained from the company, as well as social media communications, without permission and in violation of confidentiality; and that she had engaged in discreditable conduct, including making false reports to various stakeholders (likely refers to Cover staff considering the word 申告). Consequently, we concluded that it would be difficult to continue to manage and support her as a company, and have no choice but to reach this decision."

>> No.38751203

>>38751057
No she's my girlfriend.

>> No.38751209

>>38751147
But she didn't post the tweet before going to kore. That's the point.

>> No.38751219

>>38751168
COVER
STOPPED
HER
you dumb nigger.
She almost certainly thought somehow giving info privately would be a less egregious or noticeable offense that publicly showing or saying something.

>> No.38751231

>bro, all she had to do was post that she wasnt dating
Oh yes, it worked out so well to mafumafu (it didnt)
Most than half of the quotes and comments on his post are calling him a liar and asking for proofs, nobody believed him
Same shit would have happened with rushia if she did that, she had the "proofs" but she couldnt post them straight on twitter, that's why she went to korekore

>> No.38751236

>>38751209
>>38751219

>> No.38751241

>>38751219
>COVER
>STOPPED
>HER
They didn't. She still got the vague tweet out after korekore's stream.
Why couldn't she post that before talking to him? Just accept that talking to him was her priority.

>> No.38751243

>>38751195
Unlike spilling internals to outsiders for weeks if not months of course, which is explicitly allowed and welcome

>> No.38751264

>>38751241
Accept that she wanting to clear her name was a priority? Yes, I am already aware.

>> No.38751281

>>38751264
If clearing her name was a priority she would have just tweeted before talking to him.

>> No.38751285

>>38751243
>Spilling for months
Literal headcanon

>> No.38751290

>>38750946
Shut the fuck up eop

>> No.38751297

>>38751264
This is beyond delusional at this point, sick but whatever help your sleep at night.

>> No.38751325

/jp/ - twitter drama

>> No.38751328

>>38751281
Ah yes, because she clearly would have been able to post her dm's on Twitter to clear it up.

>> No.38751338

>>38751035
>makeup
>filter
>cute
>Do I still have a chance?
No

>> No.38751342

>>38751297
>Claims something retarded
>D-delusion!
Go back to your hugbox

>> No.38751354

>>38746645
there's not much to incriminate her for here though.

>> No.38751361

>>38751338
Cope incel. Every girl nowadays uses makeup and filters.

>> No.38751376

>>38751354
She obviously did more than just that or Cover wouldn't have done something so drastic now

>> No.38751404

What nobody considered yet is how other holos are provably involved at this
I can think of a situation of rushia asking direction and other holos just as clueless giving wrong advices
She probably went to her work friends faster than she went to korekore

>> No.38751410

>>38751328
Why would she need to post her DMs when her DMs were never shown anyways? You called korekore a LIAR for just talking about them and said he never got anything.
If the priority was letting her fans know she's just playing games with mafumafu she would have made a tweet just like the one he did on that day.

>> No.38751412

>>38751170
I don't think it's really fair to judge how Flare is feeling entirely off of this, Pekora and especially Marine were clearly absolutely devastated, maybe Flare decided to put on a more stern face to be strong for them, like how Botan shed no tears for Aloe while others like Lamy and Nene were broken up but couldn't hold back for Coco, different situations provide different responses.

>> No.38751442

Reminder the entire hololove jp knew about this for more than a week already

>> No.38751460

>>38751376
She did nothing wrong. Cover fired her for no good reason.

>> No.38751477

>>38751460
Okay moron

>> No.38751513

>>38751376
she did enough, the girl is a ticking time bomb anyway

>> No.38751536

>>38746831
you sound like a fat ass my nigga. you can’t stop us fatty. you can’t catch us hahaha. try all you may, but you are powerless

>> No.38751557

Narukami's guess at why she got fired is that she more or less confirmed that she is mikeneko in this whole mess.

>> No.38751611

>>38751361
specially u tranny

>> No.38751616

>>38750392
She should not have tried to defend herself in the first place. Literally all she had to do was just wait a few days for everything to blow over.
Fuck, before she started menheraposting on roommate (probably because of the termination), basically everyone had forgotten about it. Mfmf was back to business as usual within days.
It's unfortunate that she made a very bad decision by going to Korekore, but she still made a bad decision. Even if Cover had "backed her" in their statement and said she was single, it was already too late. She had violated her contract before that statement even went out.

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38751628

>>38751035

>> No.38751642

>>38751170
You're reading too much into it

>> No.38751685

>66IP
How many of you even watched her.

>> No.38751695

>>38751685
not me

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>>38751685
I did and I'm not forgiving her for talking to gossip youtubers.

>> No.38751759

>>38751412
i think Botan was still upset in her own way though. Flare just sounds like a servant finished taking out the trash

>> No.38751781

>>38751685
Every once in a while when there was no other interesting stream on.

>> No.38751831

>>38751685
I didn't, I'm only here for the drama.

>> No.38751861

>>38751685
My oshi is sankisei so obviously from time to time

>> No.38751863 [DELETED] 

>>38751685
Not me, I just here for the fun drama.

>> No.38751995

>>38751759
I don't think she did, I think she just handled it as "professionally" as she could, she even mentions in the 3rd gen vid that talking about her memories with Rushia will let her emotions get the better of her and that she's sorry for not being able to convey her feelings better. It sounds more like dramafags are once again trying to stir up yet another rrat about how everyone despises Rushia now because of muh leaked secrets to make her look worse and using the fact that not everyone wants to have a breakdown on stream and is choosing to approach this as professionally as they can to "validate" that.

>> No.38752051

Has everyone forgiven her for falling in love with mafu? I don't get how you don't feel betrayed by that fact. She literally had romantic feelings for him while at the same time changing nothing about how she acted towards her fans

>> No.38752065

>>38751685
I watch Pekora and they collab often.

>> No.38752073

>>38752051
that was before she became ''rushia''

>> No.38752079

>>38751995
It's because she's just as casual about it in the stream with fubuki. the translation on the 3rd generation stream doesn't mention her saying that either. and nearly every holo is spewing the same canned response of
"let's move forward slowly"
"i'll do my best"
"i'll make you smile"
Rushia just died. I don't want a smile. They don't need to break down on stream but a few sad remarks would be a lot better than this. Or even anger at her betrayal. I get that she fucked up and I get that they need to try to set the mood for holofes but it's extremely disturbing to have the juxtaposition between how the fans are reacting and how they're reacting and i think it's going to bite them in the ass.

>> No.38752095

>>38752051
So it's not NTR right? Pls i don't want to take my meds

>> No.38752103

>>38752079
It does say that, the video has subtitles now, watch it again

>> No.38752113

>>38752073
That was in late 2020, when she confessed to him at a dinner

>> No.38752127

Does anyone think she was actually with mafumafu? I’m kind of starting to doubt

>> No.38752129

>>38752113
the whole mafumafu thing was 4 years ago anon

>> No.38752160

>>38746762
I'm pretty sure this is not allowed, unless Cover is a dumb company like Rushia

>> No.38752168

https://files.catbox.moe/om739y.mp4

>> No.38752201

>>38752168
Kek

>> No.38752219

>leak something
>it didn't became public
why is this a problem again?

>> No.38752234

>>38752168
i have that same wall tapestry

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>>38751035
I know this is bait but I will take it

>> No.38752314

>>38752103
thanks

>> No.38752332

>>38752129
I'm pretty sure they said that dinner wasn't that long ago

>> No.38752338

>>38752236
God she's so pretty

>> No.38752350

footage of how the next holo graduation will go down
https://streamable.com/4bxp5l

>> No.38752361

>>38752236
She had cosmetic surgeries since that show happened.

>> No.38752411

>>38752236
looks better than half of hololive

>> No.38752427

>>38752361
Do all nip girls have plastic surgery?

>> No.38752487

>>38752427
No. If they have any surgery it's usually just for teeth which she also got.

>> No.38752527

>>38750588
Exactly this. What's the point of a corpo backing you up if when you fuck up you're alone and to also bloom you're alone? In the end Cover was there only to capitalize on her work; they could've done something at least.
I can concur with a suspension like when Coco fucked up but this is too much. Either she indeed showed naked pictures of every Cover employee or they are just ruthless bastards.
Also if Cover had better SecOps for every talent this wouldn't have happened. They literally do nothing and wait for profit no matter what.
Either she leaked nudes of all her genmates or Cover is the blackest company ever.

>> No.38752533

https://youtu.be/UbCZGJoZ3fc
Imagine expecting someone to have a reasonable, non spastic response to drama
Imagine expecting someone to not immediately go to the guy who thrives off of sensationalist drama and has built a career around being the japanese keemstar

>> No.38752690

>>38752533
Wtf i love normalfags now

>> No.38752693

>>38750707
Marine, Suisei, Kanatan and Peko are the ones who were affected. Flare and Fubuki were actually rather cold on the issue (Don't mind Fubuki as she's not close to Rushia but Flare's case is being rather remarkable how unbothered she sounded, but it might be just that she's the "cry alone when no one is seeing" type). The rest just pretty much addressed the issue respectfully and moved on.

>> No.38752715

>>38752693
Okayu had a similar feeling response to Suisei. Not as much as Kanata, but more than the others purely regurgitating the cliched lines

>> No.38752779

>>38752487
So the current teeth are not from a filter but actual surgery? That's amazing. If all the japs fixed her teeth they would all be 9/10 minimum.

>> No.38752801

>>38752779
You could just watch her 4 year old streams to see her without a filter, anon.

>> No.38752826

>>38752693
Even Mori was more affected than half JP kek.

>> No.38752839

>>38752801
The only ones I have watched she's using a mask. Are there any on twitcast or something?

>> No.38752846

>>38752693
It's not much but Iroha and Chloe mentioned their interactions with her in their corporate mandated template tweets which is more than some girls who collabed with her dozens of times could do

>> No.38752861

What made her give it all up? She could have salvaged the situation and kept living off the condom money from holocucks...why did she do it?

>> No.38752876

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvinDHkd2VU
Does anybody know what is about
Im guessing Mahoto is mafumafu
and I think i heared that rushia said that she likes korekore ? but my japanese isn't that good to catch everything

>> No.38752877

>>38752861
Because Cover is a shitty company

>> No.38752906

>>38752876
Mahoto is her abusive ex from like 2016.

>> No.38752997

>>38752826
the EN side probably didn't knew until the official announcement

>> No.38753011

>>38752876
fuck off newfag

>> No.38753108

>>38750431
I forgot about this

>> No.38753170

>What got leaked? Proofs?
It's a weird situation. Assuming that Rushia did leak something important, why would Cover now go and leak it to the masses? If there is a third-party that has the info, it would be KoreKore. Now if I were him, would I go and leak the said important info when my ass is already on fire from the fan attacking me? Cover will now also have a serious legal ground to sue me.

>> No.38753227

I guess this thread will be my new home.....

>> No.38753229

Imagine being Ayame doing your monthly stream and realizing something like this happened when you were out

>> No.38753277

>>38753229
She doesn't know yet. She will realize when HoloFes starts and Rushia doesn't show up.

>> No.38753298

>>38753277
she already tweeted

>> No.38753325
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38753325

Imagine having a mentally deranged menhera as your oshi.

>> No.38753337

>>38753325
Go back to your holoshit thread

>> No.38753378

>>38752826
pretty sure that was about the other russia situation

>> No.38753389

>>38753378
kek.

>> No.38753395

>>38753170
Korekore contacted cover to ask if he can leak several things, he only chose to leak things that wouldn’t get him in legal trouble

>> No.38753635

>>38752236
NGL this is JAV quality. She already got her teeth fixed so she at least 7.5/10 now.

>> No.38753668

She tweeted a twitcast and deleted, i wasn't able to catch it in time

>> No.38753691

I haven't been following for the last week. So, she wasn't fucking mafumafu afterall? Cover didn't help her clean her name so she talked to Korekore to prove her innocence and they fired her. Did i get that right? Was she innocent and just got fucked over?

>> No.38753700

>>38753691
Pretty much

>> No.38753704

>>38753691
She was most likely innocent on the mafumafu thing but in trying to prove that gave out too much internal info to Korekore which broke contract

>> No.38753714

>>38753668
qL6hm6oYqo8 or c9iB8m-E580 if you understand nihongo

>> No.38753718

>>38753691
Pretty much.
The worst thing that could happen happened to the worst person it could have happened to at the worst time (Her manager was on vacation, the people closest to her couldn't visit her due to COVID, etc).

>> No.38753740

>>38753691
She talked to korekore before even a day had passed. What was Cover supposed to do? Call in the SWAT to take away all of her devices with internet?

>> No.38753763

>>38753740
what do they do when festival goes on a twitter episode?

>> No.38753779

>>38753668
>>38753714
The twitcast was archived proper actually, it's still there. You just have to check the live history tab.

>> No.38753780

>>38753763
put their heads in sand?

>> No.38753785

>>38753740
If your top employee is a menhera and needs to be babysitted then you go and babysit her. Look at how spoiled professional sportsmen are in general: retarded people who generates lots of profit gets babysitted. It's how it is.

>> No.38753788

>>38753763
Nothing. Are you supposed to stop her from using the internet?

>> No.38753796

>>38753740
Imagine expecting a company to protect their talent that makes the most money after drama starts.
If Cover didn't have such a terrible track record of reacting to this type of shit and taking care of the mental health of their talent I wouldn't be putting part of the blame on them

>> No.38753820

>>38751325
You can't deny that it's fucking entertaining though.

>> No.38753839

>>38753785
That's a ridiculous expectation for a streamer.

>>38753796
>protect their talent
She literally didn't even give them a chance to even attempt that. She went and leaked that shit immediately, and that just lead to them discovering more leaks.

>> No.38753885

>>38753839
Hey if the first thing she attempts to do if talk to that guy instead of relying on her manager then there's something very wrong behind the scenes. That being her first option speaks loads about cover's ability to help her

>> No.38753907

>>38753885
>instead of relying on her manager then there's something very wrong behind the scenes. That being her first option speaks loads about cover's ability to help her
Yeah anon, everyone is an autistic robot who does exactly the perfect thing. It is impossible Rushia did something stupid, emotional or irrational of her own accord, it was clearly because everyone else around her wasn't helping her at all!

>> No.38753922

>>38753885
If there's "something very wrong behind the scenes" what would the first notice about the situation been had she not leaked anything? All she had to do was NOT FUCKING LEAK.

>> No.38753951

>>38753907
Considering Cover's history with protecting their talent yes that's what I'm choosing to believe. If none of that had happened before I would believe it was all on her. As it stands I think she was retarded and Cover fucked up in managing their talent again.
>>38753922
And all cover had to do was get someone to keep an eye on her and reassure her to not do stupid shit.
But hey apparently doing the bare minimum to make sure your highest earner doesn't do stupid shit is too much to ask for a professional company

>> No.38753961

>>38753951
>And all cover had to do was get someone to keep an eye on her
Assign a guard to her house? Break her knees if she goes to a computer? What level of restriction and freedom-stripping for the talents do you encourage for their own good?

>> No.38753980

>>38753951
>And all cover had to do was get someone to keep an eye on her and reassure her to not do stupid shit.
Is that not what they did when they supposedly "stopped her from speaking"? Apparently that wasn't good enough and they should have sent someone over to rip her personal phone off her hands, because that's what she used to contact korekore.

>> No.38753991

>>38753961
I encourage all the talents to strip.

>> No.38753996

>>38753961
I understand how you think cover is in the right if those are the only things you can think on how to stop her. I hope no one ever works under you

>> No.38754006

>>38753996
How do you propose stopping a 33 year old woman from communicating with people, anon? This is what you had to stop for this situation to not happen. Tell me what you wanted them to do to prevent her from talking to people over the internet on her own time.

>> No.38754016

>>38753996
How the fuck would YOU stop her from using her own personal belongings?

>> No.38754053

I get the circumstances regarding this is different but I don't get why the following happens
>something with the talents personal life either being leaked out or people being asswipes with it
>HOW DARE YOU INTERVENE WITH THEIR PERSONAL LIVES THEY ARE ADULTS
>cover issues statement that says they will not intervene in the talent's personal life and tell people to fuck off
>NOOOOO WHY ARENT YOU INTERVENING
What the fuck

>> No.38754055

Rushia is fucking retarded, everybody knows that. That's why she's the best GFE.
While it is not directly Cover's fault, it is (mostly) partly their incompetent that caused this.

>> No.38754057

>>38754006
>>38754016
It's not about stopping her from communicating with people holy shit. If they had just been more readily available to reassure her they got her back and everything would have been fine, with more reminders to not try to solve shit herself that shit could have been avoided.
She wouldn't have pulled such a retarded stunt if she felt like cover had her back. It's such a fucking simple measure as emotional support and guidance not taking her internet and phone away

>> No.38754060

>>38754053
I know it's hard to understand but there are actually multiple people on earth and they have different opinions

>> No.38754067

>>38754057
>It's not about stopping her from communicating with people holy shit.
Yes it is. She immediately went to korekore.

>> No.38754087

>>38754067
How fast is that immediately? Right after her stream was over? Because management should have been on her case exactly at that moment.
She is not a random tech support she is their main super chat earner if can't put the effort to stop her from fucking up you deserve to lose her as much as she deserves to be fired for leaking dumb shit

>> No.38754106

>>38754053
they were talking about relationships, if that was not obvious. not managing their talents.

>> No.38754116

Jesus christ this thread

>> No.38754123

>>38754087
>management should have been on her case exactly at that moment.
Well according to the people around here they were and they told her not talk about the issue, which was apparently a huge, cruel, inhumane act.
So communicating with her and telling her that she shouldn't post anything wasn't enough to stop her from still talking to someone about it.
What the FUCK would YOU have done? All you can do is add fluff words but never say anything concrete.

>> No.38754124

>>38754057
> If they had just been more readily available to reassure her they got her back and everything would have been fine
How much did they do, since you know everything that went on behind the scenes? We know they stepped in, and we know at minimum she has friends in her genmates and a ton of people pouring support for her in general. You think she had silence the second after the stream ended?

Why is it you can't possibly seem to think she had support and still made a stupid choice? Cover supported Coco, even deleting HoloCN. You're blinding yourself with idolatry.

>> No.38754127

>>38754106
Everyone else I've been seeing talk about this kept implying it was more about the latter

>> No.38754140

>>38754087
As far as anyone can see management was on her immediately, she quickly went on a mandated absence. You're assuming so much here to construct your narrative.

>> No.38754143

haven't the others accidentally leaked discord messages and stuff on stream? i always hear about it but never seen it happen myself

>> No.38754199

>>38754143
The only substantial leak that wasn't just collab talk between holos was Kanata's leak showing a short exchange with some staff member about some 5ch matter.
It's clear there's more to this than what anyone will ever know.

>> No.38754213

>>38754199
Kanata showing that was accidental though, Rushia was intentional. It's probably the same as Noel accidentally showing C*nan overlays on stream vs her outright stating shes C*nan.

>> No.38754231

>>38754127
i was talking about covers response to rushia rumours. they didn't back her. they just said it's not their business.

>> No.38754250

test

>> No.38754265

>>38754199
not necessarily. could be as simple as her menhera stint the last 2 weeks made them consider her a liability. add the kore stuff and it was a reasonable excuse to cut her. + bf allegations, outting herself as mike, etc.

>> No.38754276

>>38754231
Not him but honestly what the fuck is going on with cover? I know they're no stranger to scandals but Jesus Christ this is the third vtuber they lost due to this type of shit

>> No.38754308

>>38754276
nothing new. cover has always been incompetent. they're just lucky that corona hit at the right time and they lucked into falling upwards.

>> No.38754321

>>38754231
So were they supposed to get her comment about the situation and publish it even though she had already leaked it to somebody?

>> No.38754337

Seeing all this makes me hope lamy doesn't get fucked or at the very least leave on good terms

>> No.38754350

>>38754321
they didn't make that statement until like a week in though. that's what I mean by them being slow.

>> No.38754351

>>38754250
what next? peko rap?

>> No.38754388

>>38754350
>they didn't make that statement until like a week in though
The first one was on the 14th. How is that a week later? Also you said nothing about being slow so don't try to add that now.

>> No.38754406

>>38754388
the reason rushia went to the dramanig is obviously because their response was slow, is it not? she wanted to prove to her fans there was nothing between them.

>> No.38754422

Anyone know what she said in her latest twitcast?

>> No.38754425

I liked posting a bunch of Rushia pictures on the rushia threads...I don't want that to change...

>> No.38754427

>>38754406
That and she actually trusted the guy because he helped her before and was also acquaitanced with Mafumafu.

>> No.38754436

>>38754406
She went to him in less than a day before even mafumafu had said anything. She was told to not talk about it and she still had to tell someone.
If she wanted to prove something to her fans herself she could have just tweeted and not use a shady middleman literally not a single fan trusted.

>> No.38754453

>>38754422
She apologized deeply for everything, thanked fans for their support including kaigai fans. Reported that she wanted to talk about everyhing but didn't know what she could or couldn't say until her lawyer gave the ok. Reported that her health was a bit better now. Asked for people not to spread her picture and age (kinda futile).

>> No.38754481

>>38754425
i mean, she'll come back, just not as rushia.

>> No.38754501

>>38754453
That's good to hear at least she's doing well

>> No.38754526

>>38754453
She also only apologized for putting everyone through this and not what the schizos on this board are imagining.

>> No.38754535

Maybe I should follow her after all...

>> No.38754600

>>38754535
Yes

>> No.38754611

>>38754600
Well, I just subbed to her channel

>> No.38754703

>>38754611
You did the right thing anon

>> No.38754903

>>38754611
If you got your pc running you might as well let her test video play in a loop to give her the playtime she needs to monetize the channel.

>> No.38754996

Stupid, stupid, stupid.
She threw everything away by being an idiot.
I loved the green necromancer, I don't want to love something else

>> No.38755088

>>38754213
Yeah, they are not going to simply fire one of their talents raking in millions over some small accidents. Hell, most of their roommate accounts are basically open secrets at this point, yet Cover doesn't seem to care. Rushia must have fucked up quite a bit (even beyond what we already know) and probably not shown any remorse or willingness to change, so they felt forced to throw her out before things would get worse.

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>>38754996
You've made pink Rushia sad!

>> No.38755295

I know it's not like I'll never see her again but I can't shake this feeling of intense grief for some reason

Even if what she did was wrong, I just hope she didn't burn too many bridges with her friends and colleagues

>> No.38755360

>>38755295
I think what hurts the most is not seeing her anymore in the hololive environment with the other girls. If she streams on the new channel and gets better mentally I can still enjoy her like old times but not being able to see her collab with old members I liked and seeing stuff like all of her songs and hologra episodes deleted will hurt

>> No.38755376

I've been crying so hard that I've vomited multiple times today.

>> No.38755398

>>38755295
Because it isn't the same. She'll be in a different form, she'll play with different people, the whole environment won't be the same

>> No.38755411

It hurts a lot, I had the slightest hope that she could come back, but now it's all over.
I will continue to support Mike but I will miss Rushia very much, even though they fired her, after more than two and a half years and all the profits she has given cover they could have at least let her do one last farewell stream

>> No.38755457

>>38755376
Everything will be ok anon. Let's just hope this whole drama will be over soon

>> No.38755479

>>38755360
>>38755398
yeah, I guess the biggest loss here is all of the relationships she's developed with the other girls that we've come to appreciate. We're never gonna see that again.

>>38755411
They owed her the dignity of a graduation stream no matter what she did

>> No.38755524

Speaking of relationship did tamaki allude to anything regarding this in ((his)) mengen? Also I find it hilarious that Yumeno Lilith got canned from noripro a month prior for THE SAME shit in regards to NDA

>> No.38755974

I'm going to miss her design.

>> No.38756131

>>38755974
I know it's not going to happen, but I wish she could hire her "father" to make her a model similar to rushia

>> No.38756141

These feelings of depression and acceptance reminds me of the Lulu to Misumi transition only worse because Rushia was shit canned. She may have done something bad but I don't think she's a bad person. She's just incredibly stupid. I hope her new channel works out for her

>> No.38756186

>>38756141
It may have been a fuck up on her part but its still understandable why he did it cause she was already distraught

>> No.38756273

>>38756141
I still think cover is partly to blame, the stream with Miko ended at 11pm and if she contacted her manager and cover's response is that they were on vacation.
I can understand that the rush to prove her innocence made everything go wrong.
If cover had given her advice since the end of the stream, maybe all this wouldn't have happened.

>> No.38756300

>>38756141
At least the Misumi stuff was completely by her decision and she was never under stress because of that. I miss Lulu but seeing her streaming the same kind of stuff she would just with irl camera calms me.
If Rushia manages to reach that point I think I will be able to cope and move on supporting her new activities but this shitstorm must be hurting her so much

>> No.38756309

>>38756273
>cover's response is that they were on vacation
Source?

>> No.38756353

>>38756309
It was a national holiday the day/night it happened or atleast the time they issued the first statement

>> No.38756409

>>38756309
According to the screenshot shown by Korekore, rushia said cover workers were on vacation
The stream was on a Thursday night and cover didn't say anything until Monday

>> No.38756422
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>>38746001
SHE MIGHT

>> No.38756499

>>38756300
Yeah this 100%
I hope she pulls through like Misumis channem

>> No.38756551

>>38756409
That makes sense. The stream was at night, on Feb 10. The national holiday was on Friday, Feb 11. She'd have to wait 3 days to hear from cover so she decided to handle the thing herself...

>> No.38756581

>>38756353
>>38756409
So are you now shifting the narrive to one where she was NOT told to shut up about what happened? That makes what she chose to do even worse.

>> No.38756853

can't she just join nijis*nji?

>> No.38756894

>>38756853
if she didn't get canned for NDA she could've

violating NDA is a huge blacklist in the entertainment industry and literally everyone in that sphere knows she did so

Captcha NTR0D

>> No.38756937

>>38756853
I doubt any company would take her in at this point.
Honestly though, even if she could join a company she's better off going independent

>> No.38757028

>>38756937
I still think she should have something akin to an agent to deal with her menhera fits if she's gonna continue down this career

>> No.38757095

DID NOTHING WRONG

>> No.38757176

>>38756894
breaking the NDA is just another day for niji

>> No.38757533

I want to hold michael neko tight and tell her it's okay

>> No.38757549

>>38757533
Same, I wanna rub her head though she'd probably hate that, she seems to really take care of her hair.

>> No.38757726
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>>38745388
>is cute
>is crazy
>has nice hair
>did nothing wrong
>doesn't let contracts stop her
She is LITERALLY Homura.
>Verification not required

>> No.38757810

I love Mikeneko!
man that feels kinda weird, I'm too used to calling her Rushia

>> No.38757818

>>38757810
I wonder if she'd let us call her Mii-chan

>> No.38758285

>>38757818
She honestly probably would if not for the controversy...

>> No.38758634

>>38756131
Kson hired her mama to make a new vtuber design, so that's probably okay, but it wasn't similar looking.

>> No.38758789

It honestly hurts knowing that her genmates gave her the cold shoulder

>> No.38758809

>>38758789
Marine sounded the most upset i've ever heard her sound. Pekora was clearly upset, she wasn't even saying Peko. Noel seemed to be holding back. Flare was the outlier but she wasn't really that close to her to begin with and she was likely holding it in.

>> No.38758959

>>38758789
only Flare.

>> No.38759042

>>38758789
Most of jp members are indifferent about it. They probably didn't have this in mind, but it really ignite the curiousity of many why the receptions were like that

>> No.38759237

>>38758789
It's understandable considering Rushia's brand emphasizes being 'faithful' more than unity.
Still Marine and Pekora were definitely distraught that this had to happen.

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38759274

It's really heartbreaking because I treasure that one episode where she was my sweet incestuous sister.
And I always hoped she would do more like that.

>> No.38759528

>>38746034
mike hawk you retard

>> No.38759575

>>38759274
Uhh, oh yeah that one. Link?

>> No.38759621
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>>38759575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhLILxWUs90

Is there a way we can archive the things in the channel before they delete it all?
I downloaded both the 1080P webm and the 1080 mp4 because I was unsure which of them is the best quality. And then I have to download the audio as well and mix it into an mkv.

>> No.38759670

>>38759621
It's on ragtag
https://archive.ragtag.moe/watch?v=uhLILxWUs90

>> No.38759759

>>38751035
Is she really 33?

>> No.38759812

>>38753325
it was pretty fun ngl

>> No.38759823

>>38753796
they knew she was a retard, they did show support but not immediately
well, nips in general just lack the very important human touch to handle these matters
It's so funny to me th, she always had back luck
every time I watchd her play any videogame she kept fucking things up in the most unexpected way. I guess she wasn't pretending to be retarded

I'm gonna miss her...

>> No.38759839

>>38757176
kek

>> No.38760513

>This video is not published
Is twitcasting a temporary thing where videos automatically get deleted?
Or did she manually disable them for now?

>> No.38760570

>>38745986
kys

>> No.38760582

>>38746021
>>38746065
>>38746146
>>38749537
>>38756422
why is mafumafu /here/ and samefagging so much ?

>> No.38760670

>>38760513
It is usually archived. She chose it to be unarchived.
t. used to watch Matsuri

>> No.38760771

>>38760582
mikeneko would never let a twink touch her she likes chads like Bakugo

>> No.38761015

>DMしっかり見てます、色々なご連絡とかありがとうございます。感謝です…!

>> No.38761016

>>38753740
>>38754124

Cover is always late to the party, and when they make a statement it's always not helping much.
Then the internet freaks out, the talents freak out.

>Aloe
She asked the management to allow her to test her live 2d, but they definitely didn't accompany her through the process.
Suspended her because of "information leak".
We know that it wasn't the real reason (again it was approved by the management).
Moreover, it only add more fuel to the fire. It gives the antis another reason to hate her. "See? She's not belong to Hololive. she is unprofessional."
Internet freaked out for several weeks.
I also don't think that the content of her apology video was on point.

>Coco
They just needed to apologize (alongside Coco) that they showed things that were not supposed to be shown.
This is not the first time it happened, by the way. There were Aqua and Choco incidents
Instead, she suspended her for "information leak" (again).
And again, we know that it was not the real reason.
Internet freaked out for several weeks.
Their PR statement also didn't fix shit.

>Rushia
When was the GTA stream again? on Thursday night?
Shit happened.
Internet freaked out.
People were wondering about her relationship with the guy.
It was a long holiday (national holiday + weekends).
Maybe Rushia asked the management about this.
Probably it was holiday, and 1 manager couldn't make any decision, so they asked her to wait until workdays.
Valentine day was on fucking Monday.
Rushia, the GFE vtuber, freaked out.
Of course she wanted to clear things up before Valentine Day
Cover's statement? It was on fucking Monday!
You know what they said?
"We don't interfere with our talents' personal life."
Towards their GFE chuuba, on Valentine Day, when her gachikois are wondering about her relationship with the guy.
It's sound the same as dramafag youtube titles "She has a boyfriend ???".
People be like "So it's true?"
It didn't help in the end, instead it's making it worse.

As you see.
Same shits, different forms.
All can be summarize into "Cover doesn't have a quick and responsive general support for the talents (especially tech and PR supports)."

Do you blame people not believing in Cover now?

>> No.38761093

What the hell? She deleted her tweet

>> No.38761098

>>38761093
unprecedented

>> No.38761405

>>38752877
The right answer.
Corporate idol "entertainment" companies. Not even once.

>> No.38761508

>>38761093
what did it say?

>> No.38761651

>>38761508
>>38761015

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>> No.38761906

>>38761651
her DMs are closed tho, damn i even went through the effort of writing a long message

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>> No.38761978

>>38761016
>"We don't interfere with our talents' personal life."
that part was a fuckup, may as well have said "lol guys they're dating" when that may not be the case. It got read by many as it wouldn't matter to cover if they where which is an admirable stance, but if they weren't it's kinda skeezy.

>> No.38761986

>>38761906
You can dm her instagram account

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38761994

>>38761958
Strong stalker vibes coming from that message

>> No.38762149

>>38759621
yt-dlp and just aim it at her entire channel.
There's about 490 videos to archive so you need a few terabytes to spare.

>> No.38762308

Pekora, Marine -> cried
Kanata -> Sounded sad
Miko -> More aloof than usual
Noel -> Somewhat sad
Flare -> Ice cold, couldn't care less
HoloX -> nothing
Everyone else -> canned response

Did I miss anything? Thoughts on their reactions?

>> No.38762357

>>38752693
Where can I see suisei'd and kanata'd reactions?

>> No.38762379

>>38762308
Learn Japanese instead of copypasting shit from discord and /vt/

>> No.38762397

>>38762357
Twitter

>> No.38762482

>>38745388
I feel dead inside. Empty, cold, and numb to the world. Rushia didn't deserve this. She made a mistake but cold-blooded termination with no graduation goodbye is fucked up.

I sincerely hope Rushia tries independent vtubing, sticking to a character persona that she's best and good at: flat, loli, soft-spoken but big voice when enranged, smiling angel with a hair-trigger switch.

>> No.38762490 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBH4RqpEQ4o

>> No.38762496

>>38759670
How reliable and secure is ragtag as an archive?

>> No.38762584

>>38762496
You may want to get acquainted with hololive bros from /t/, just in case

>> No.38762666

>>38758789
???
Her genmates fight for that stream to be allowed, and she benefited from it.
They can't do anything else.

>> No.38762765

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yadVEV-f4
Korekore stream
They gonna leak who harass Rushia in hololive later

>> No.38762806

>>38762765
Tell me that's just Kore2 spouting more bullshit and Rushia didn't fucking talk to this asshole again

>> No.38762858

>>38762765
Won't watch this faggot grifter. Not giving him a view.
If anyone does and he says something relevant please tell.

>> No.38763028

>>38762858
Nothing important now

>> No.38763058

>>38762806
We all know Mikeneko is dumb enough to do this. Don't lie to yourself, as much as we love her, you know deep down inside she isn't very bright. She is totally dumb enough to do this. Again.

>> No.38763143

>>38762666
Marine and Pekora maybe

>> No.38763151

Lol she's saying she got bullied at work.

>> No.38763164

>>38763151
Is this literally Meiro Roa 2.0?

>> No.38763175

They claim they hate each other in Vtubers

>> No.38763219

>>38761016
>Aloe
The "information leak" was that the thumbnail for the stream was still visible. The stream itself wasn't recorded, but the entry for it remained. Nobody found out about it till after debut though. She also got pounced for saying some stuff (way before hololive) about a niji girl that had quit, and one of her twitcast profiles had a bunch of sex talk during the stream. Like, as if a virgin who has never even seen a nipple before were to describe sex acts and how great they are. It was basically like reading a doujin.

Also her ex was getting harassed and even though they didn't want her to address that in the apology video, she did. she also mentioned the irl harassment that she had been getting, which is exactly what caused her abusive step-dad to make her quit.

>> No.38763238

Feels like Rushia asked Korekore to do this stream.

>> No.38763245

>>38763175
No way.

>> No.38763258

>>38763175
That was probably the "false information" part of the statement Cover made

>> No.38763259

>>38761994
Just like her!

>> No.38763263

>>38762308
Suisei was somewhat sad, but not as much as Kanata; Okayu's was more organic than the others and came off as more sympathetic to me. Then there's Matsuri... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKyBvuvnuJo

>> No.38763273

>>38763238
No, Kaigainikki attack him

>> No.38763296

>>38762496
don't rely on it and go to /t/

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>>38746401
Actually based. Cover is too cringe and couldn't handle the basedness.

>> No.38763346

>>38763273
This stream is clearly premeditated.

>> No.38763365

He blame Rushia askd him to help first and it is not his fault

>> No.38763419

>>38763365
I don't think anyone with any sense really thinks Korekore is the one "at fault" here, people just think he's an asshole because he's clearly mocking her while pretending to be her friend
He literally just bought on the impersonator again too

>> No.38763464

>>38763419
4D chess to get the impersonator a job as Vtuber.

>> No.38763473

>>38763419
well he's legally at fault for dumping some sensitive information

>> No.38763500

>>38763473
Wouldn't it technically count as Whistleblower talking to a journalist?

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38763537

Rushua-sama! I will always remember you ;_;

>> No.38763569

>>38763419
He's like a symptom, a manifestation of other people's idiocy (namely Rushia and Cover here), and that's how these drama channels thrive. He is technically never at fault.

>> No.38763583

>>38763500
don't journalists usually not reveal their sources though?

>> No.38763610

>>38763569
He just opened a whole new can of worms too by bringing up something like "Rushia told me she was getting bullied", we once again don't know if that's true or not but it both casts suspicion on Cover, all of the other Hololive vtubers, and once more throws Rushia under the bus by making her look like she's stirring up shit behind the scenes. Why'd he even bring that up even if it did happen, it has nothing to do with the current situation.

>> No.38763654

>>38763583
They don't but I don't know if it's because of credibility or if it's actually not allowed.

>> No.38763666

Where are the AVs?

>> No.38763738

>>38763610
He has all the reason to actually.
First of all, he didn't do this stream because the fan attacked him, this was clearly planned. He is attacking Cover by using Rushia's word. This also makes Rushia looks bad.
Basically, he is fanning the flame between two sides. And the one who comes out on top will be the drama guy. Notices the short video he made about himself in the beginning.

>> No.38763752

To be honest I can see why Cover fired her. It’s really problematic so keep someone around who contacted with this shit stirring grifter. Now he can even say whatever without showing proof because Mike contacting him gave him a validation token.
It’s pretty darn sad, but that’d explain why some of the other holos reacted rather cold to her departure.
It’s a situation where everyone could’ve done better, but no one did and in the end the chain broke where the weakest element was.
Again, the whole situation is saddening. Everyone ended up hurt by this.

>> No.38763767

>>38763666
Two more weeks

>> No.38763789

Is this bullying rumour true? If it's a senpai, it's gotta be fubuki right?

>> No.38763815

>>38763654
nobody will leak shit to you if you out their name and they get clinton'd

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wow. i regret siding with her. what the fuck is this sociopath shit
"if im drowning ill bring down the entire ship with me"

>> No.38763849

>>38763738
He's literally spent this entire stream mocking her and the situation and pretending like he doesn't know anything about it, he's even going as far as bringing on a Rushia impersonator. He's a complete dipshit.
>>38763752
You're exactly right, and this new rrat of "Rushia told me she was getting bullied" is complete proof of that, I'm pretty sure I saw someone on here even bring up this exact scenario could potentially happen where Korekore could just make up some bullshit like "My friend from Hololive told me everyone is an asshole behind the scenes trust me guys ;)"
>>38763789
I don't know, Rushia might be stupid enough to say something like that, but I seriously cannot trust Korekore's word at all, he's 100% biased and has shown that he's not above making shit up or lying i.e. Rushia impersonator to fan the flames.

>> No.38763889

He claims himself as Batman or Avenger

>> No.38763916

He claims himself friend of justice like Batman or Avenger

>> No.38763965

>>38763849
You can not believe a single word this guy said. Unfortunate, this is the guy that Rushia seems to have put complete faith in.

>> No.38764050

>>38763965
Yeah, according to him. The same guy who just brought on a Rushia sound-alike to tell everyone that he's not to blame and to leave him alone.
And again, this latest claim didn't even need to be said, he didn't bring it up before and he didn't need to bring it up now, he just pulled this out of his ass suddenly to keep the fire burning on this situation and none of us can prove otherwise because Rushia may have contacted him at one point for one thing, which means potentially anything else is on the table too. She really fucked up by trying to get this lunatic to explain the mafumafu thing.

>> No.38764159

>>38763610
>it has nothing to do with the current situation.
But it has everything to do with the reason she was fired.

>> No.38764261

>>38764159
Well at the very least regardless of the truth of it, this is a perfect example of why breaking NDA should never be done and why it's understandable Cover cut her out for it, I get the feeling this drama is far from over.

>> No.38764312

Some anon at /vt/ cracked the case
>>>/vt/19083148

>> No.38764317

>>38762308
Mori and Ollie emotional damage enough to take a day off

>> No.38764417

Hold up!
>事務所から嫌がらせを受けている、他のVtuberからも
>*こちらは証拠もなく、真偽は不明

So she means that This Office has bullied other vtubers too
Not that other vtubers bullied her.
She's talking about Coco!

>> No.38764436

>>38764417
where is this from though. like hand me a screencap or a timestamp. something i can rrat with

>> No.38764498

>>38764417
No retard, he's saying she said she got bullied from both staff and other holos.

>> No.38764519

This will never die down. Rushia is forever painted as a backstabber and Cover now has a bullying controversy. Very sad situation.
Talking to this guy was the biggest mistake ever.

>> No.38764523

>>38764417
EOPchama...

>> No.38764611

>>38764519
There's so much shit on Rushia that people will take the Cover alleged bullying as she menhera-ing/she being salty. Right now she is undoubtedly the bad apple to public eyes.
I'm actually having a hard time believing she was indeed bullied since to me it's more plausible she was just having a woman moment thinking everyone hates her for whatever reason.

>> No.38764637

Rushia you fucking retard, I loved you but good luck as Mikeneko I won't be coming along for the ride

>> No.38764657

>>38764611
I'll tell you this, if Korekore isn't lying and Rushia isn't lying either, I will kneel so fucking hard, but it really seems hard to believe and there's obviously no proof given, not even to this guy.

>> No.38764689

>>38764611
The problem is that it doesn't even have to be true. It can not be proved anyways. He even said that Rushia provided no proof for the bullying, but that won't matter.
Cover now looks bad, and Rushia even worse.

>> No.38764713

>>38764689
That's exactly why you don't do shit like this and she deserves to be fired.
Motherfucker has carte blanche now.

>> No.38764781

>>38764689
I recall other holomems saying "everything is true" regarding Rushia leaking info. I think it's possible a lot of the shit we're seeing right now is truly leaked by Rushia and at the same time I don't really believe everything she has said.
She is a menhera woman having the most menhera woman moment ever; in that state I don't have a hard time seeing her throwing shit at everyone even if it was just out of angriness.

>> No.38764804

>>38764781
But is she smart enough to engineer a ploy that the paints cover as a bully and also poisons the Fubuki canary in the coalmine?

Rushia is getting harder to believe, but Kore could easily be making it all up for drama. Calling himself a hero and showing a chat message of her saying she wants to burn cover down is pretty obvious.

>> No.38764819

>>38764781
That was Flare saying "everything is true" referring to the Cover statement of them terminating Rushia's contract. You stupid idiot.

>> No.38764860

Also let's keep in mind "事務所の先輩" is rather ambiguous. It could be a holomem but it can also be someone else; what she considers a 事務所の先輩 is not clear.
>>38764804
>But is she smart enough
No. She's retarded. All of this happened because she had the biggest woman moment ever and every woman try to find-fault people when they're being targeted.
>Rushia is getting harder to believe, but Kore could easily be making it all up for drama
Of course, and that leave us with Cover and the rest of the holomems as the ones with less shit on them whilst it also explains their indifference towards Rushia's departure even from people as Haachama who was in good terms with her.

>> No.38764885

>>38758789
it would be incredibly dangerous to speak out of line for someone who was fired.

>> No.38764886

Reminder that it only takes basic knowledge of HTML and some autism to fake screenshots. There is absolutely zero credibility to korekore's shit.

>> No.38764887

>>38753763
Festival isn't leaking company info to dramatubers.

>> No.38764903

please tell me you guys are seriously believing a word this man says. It's over. This man is now in a spot where he no longer needs to worry about lying because his source of previous contact was fired. Everything out of his mouth will be bullshit. This man makes me even more uncomfortable than Keemstar ever did

>> No.38764907

>>38764903
You can't deny the new years greeting

>> No.38764912

>>38764886
yeah they're supposed to be discord logs but the top bar almost makes it look likes it's open in explorer or something

>> No.38764916

god I just want this to be over
what a goddamn mess
to think this all started because of a discord message

>> No.38764927

>>38764860
>No. She's retarded
so you agree kore is making everything up?

>> No.38764932

>>38763263
What is this? Why did she join?

>> No.38764951

>>38764903
Who gives a shit if anything is actually true?
She just caused a major headache for every holomen by being a retard.

>> No.38764958
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38764958

>>38764903
People are already flocking to his side to say sorry. They are so fucking stupid it's making me mad.

>> No.38764964

>>38764932
maybe she was sad too? idk

>> No.38764968

>>38746531
95mm dick on a underaged
please understandabru

>> No.38764986

>>38764927
He is making a lot up. I don't know to what degree but of course he's a lying faggot. That doesn't change that some of the shit she leaked that affect other holomems seems to be true going by the reactions of pretty much the entire company except for Kanatan, Marine, Suisei and Pekora. Also people say Flare was indifferent but maybe she was just disgusted/in disbelief/angry because she couldn't believe Rushia would do something like that.
It keeps getting harder to believe Rushia just leaked stuff about herself alone. Just because I like her doesn't mean I'm blind.

>> No.38764994

Are you once again reverting back to
>she never even talked to him!
?

>> No.38765013

>>38764986
The biggest take away I've been thinking for a long time is this...
Did Rushia do it maliciously? No I dont think so. She did it because as much as we joke about her low IQ it's unfortunately true. Shes just so goddamn stupid she didn't see this would backfire on her in so many ways.

>> No.38765020

>>38763263
What is that supposed to mean?

>> No.38765021

>>38764986
But kore doesn't have to prove anything anymore. He's got that legitimacy credit from the last video. So he can make up anything he wants. He already had the Rushia impersonator on. Taking all of that into account there's like a 99.9% chance it's fake a gay. And if that's true, then the situation isn't any different than 24 hours ago or whatever.

Keep in mind he framed himself as a hero, and showed some "screenshots" that are sure to fan flames between Rushia and Cover/Holos

>> No.38765026

>>38765013
>spread this if I get fired
That's pretty malicious, anon.

>> No.38765029

>>38765020
you tell me

>> No.38765043

>>38765026
There's no way you can buy that screenshot being real anon...

>> No.38765053

>>38764994
If he really used impersonator she could just tweet that it's all lies and she never contacted him.

>> No.38765060

>>38765026
that's the biggest fake of the entire thing. even framing himself as a hero for more clicks.

>> No.38765070

>>38765043
That's what you said when he showed screenshot of his conversation with her last time. How many times are you going to do this?

>>38765053
Why do you keep bringing up this completely irrelevant impersonator that's just used to mock her by copying her voice? I hate it when he does that shit too but I can't fucking believe that you just deny every single thing.

>> No.38765077

>>38764903
Duh

>> No.38765103

>>38765070
Because him using an impersonator just proves how lightly he takes this situation. It's all a fucking joke to him

>> No.38765117

>>38765103
It's a joke to him because she destroyed herself. This impersonator thing doesn't add anything to your claim that he's faking everything when he could literally just make a LINE account to message himself and claim it's true. He doesn't need anyone else to do that.

>> No.38765120

>>38765013
I don't think she's deliberately bad. A lot of people liked her, like Haachama, Coco, Kanatan, Marine... But I do think she had a woman moment that made her bring out the worst version of herself. When woman feel targeted they start shooting at sight. They are really defensive and that's why it's hard for them to be teams. When a man is targeted most likely he will look down, but when a woman is targeted she will just lose it.
>>38765021
The thing is holomems are to some degree validating him too. If everything was a nothingburger then they would have had warmer words to address Rushia yesterday. If stuff like that she wants to bring everyone else down with her or the bully thing were indeed said by her then that'd explain why everyone, even Haachama who was the only one who gave her a hand when the other holomems where quiet, treated the thing so cold-mannered.

>> No.38765130

>>38764912
>look likes it's open in explorer or something
It's an image open in the default Windows image viewer. Can't you read kana?

>> No.38765148

>>38765029
*rapes you*

>> No.38765153

>>38765120
>gave her a hand
lmao

>> No.38765165

>>38765117
He doesn't need to tell the truth anymore anon. He's in a spot where's he's untouchable now because of her getting fired and the NDA breach going to her. Rushia is a retard but she's not evil.
She's psychotic and a dumbass menhera but jesus christ she's not the wicked witch of the west. She's just the jp equivalent of a dumb hot blonde

>> No.38765184

>>38765165
This impersonator point still does nothing for your argument, anon. That's all I said.

>> No.38765203

>>38765184
I wasn't even the one that replied about the impersonator man, but I do believe it paints him a jackass for using one.

>> No.38765244

So I've checked the stream, here's a quick summary
>even before reaching out, she thought she might get shitcanned because of a certain senpai
>that senpai was bullying her regularly, mostly verbal abuse but would sometimes got physical
>the senpai was good at FPS and had an annoying habit that pissed everyone off (implied to be smoking)
>the bullying would shift between periods of getting too close and even forcing to collab with her, pretending to be friends, and complete ignore
>the most outrageous part was when said senpai would walk around the office naked, and the staff could do nothing but say their name
>would give Rushia orders like a radio-controlled car and make loud noises
>for some reason forced her to eat banana pudding(some euphemism maybe?)
Some really fucked up stuff. Hope I didn't mess up my translation, still learning the language, should be mostly right.

>> No.38765247

>>38765130
didn't bother after the first part

>> No.38765253

>>38765244
Where the hell did you get any of that from the stream?

>> No.38765268

>>38765253
https://files.catbox.moe/7uddkr.webm

>> No.38765270

>>38765203
Yeah? That's what I said too.
This claim that he's just lying about everything doesn't seem right to me either because Narukami's claims of what she told her match the screenshot shown today.
If they're all fake then you'd have to believe they're coordinating or that korekore follows Narukami.

>> No.38765275

>>38765253
He forgot to talk about that senpai slapping Rushia in front of YAGOO and him just laughing at her

>> No.38765281

>>38765268
I knew it, that Towa bitch is such a fucking snake. She can't hide her chainsmoking.

>> No.38765293

God I hate drama channels so much, even if this new bullying shit is true this video only makes shit worse for her

>> No.38765315

>>38765293
>even if this new bullying shit is true
In what way? People are claiming she never even said it while others are trying to figure out the bully.

>> No.38765330

>>38765315
I mean that adding this whole new drama to shit Rushia supposedly told him won't help her, it might just make it look like she is trying to drag everyone down with her. Even if the bullying accusations are real revealing it now after she was terminated only makes it worse for her

>> No.38765351

>>38765330
>it might just make it look like she is trying to drag everyone down with her
That was the entire intention according to the messages.

>> No.38765357

>>38765330
the whole point is to make it worse for her

>> No.38765412

>>38765270
I don't think they're coordinating but he could be taking advantage of the claim from Narukami

>> No.38765457

I honestly wish Korekore didn't blow up the way he did recently because now he's all EOP faggots talk about here. It's just frustrating. I'm sick to my stomach Rushia was fired so harshly but I understand it was her fault but at the same time I hate that there exists horrible people that just want to sink her even lower than she already is. This man is worse than Keemstar by a mile

>> No.38765470

>>38765351
The whole mafumafu thing, I waited to see what she had to say about it, but generally believed in her
The whole giving Discord logs to Korekore to clear her name, reprimandable and definitely a bad move but at least she did it with some kind of good intention
Feeding fucking baseless rrats to dramatubers which has the potential, even without proof, to ruin the reputation of the company and her co-workers? That's way too far, I can't possibly defend that. Rushia had better say something, anything, about this soon other than more generic "I'm sorry"s and "Muh legal process" because if this is the truth and it's entirely as they say it is, that's the thing that'll completely shatter my faith in her

>> No.38765485

>>38765457
Keemstar sent hate raids to some harmless old man calling him a pedophile.
Idk about worse but Korekore is a massive cunt.

>> No.38765496

>>38765470
What if she was actually being bullied tho, just a thought experiment

>> No.38765510

>>38765496
Leaking that now is still a terrible move and doesn't help her at all

>> No.38765519

>>38765496
Then I hope to god she's spent the last few months gathering as much evidence as she can of it happening and forming a proper case because if she's still got no proof, it's as good as a lie.

>> No.38765532

>>38765270
ofc they know of each other. Two scums matching adds nothing.
I would only believe what mikeneko herself has to say.

>> No.38765541

>>38761016
There's also Mel's harasser case which took them months to deal with

>> No.38765547

>>38765496
She still leaked that while she was getting investigated for leaking, and she had leaked it before to Narukami. That would mean she was trying to take hololive down with her.
This all of course just a thought experiment.

>> No.38765559

Regardless of whether she did anything or not... Did you download anything from ragtag?

>> No.38765571

I just want this to be over, I hate that this cunt reignites this mess whenever he streams

>> No.38765591

>>38765244
I don't think that's real, but who would fit the bill if it was?

>> No.38765611

>>38765591
I don't know which replies to obvious towaposts are serious anymore. Is this one real?

>> No.38765621

>>38765591
Pretty sure the wording was different at some point and he changed it to imply Towa but forgot to remove the senpai.

>> No.38765625

>>38765496
>aaah nooo I'm a 33 year old woman who makes the most money at the company I work for I'm being bullied help
actually suck it up

>> No.38765626

>>38765611
>>38765621
I guess I fell for stupid bait then I'm not used to towa posts

>> No.38765636

>>38765626
>FPS
>smoking
>radio-controlled car
>banana
Things to look out for in the future.

>> No.38765650

I really want to believe her, but eveything just hurts.
I endured everything and supported her as much as I could when the whole mfmf thing began, even defended her when she talked to korekore because it seemed like she was just desperate.
But this is just too much, I really hope there's a good explanation for all of this, and that korekore and narukami are somehow making shit up.
Regardless of what happens, i'll always love "Rushia" and I'll always be thankful to her for our time together though.

>> No.38765734

Question. When is this 2nd round of screenshots supposed to be from? Because originally Rushia gave stuff to kore to prove her innocence, she shouldn't have been expecting to be fired already should she? So is this stuff from her giving him shit again?

Personally I think this whole 2nd set is fake. Him framing himself as a hero and showing a message of her saying "i want to burn it down" or whatever clearly paints her as malicious. It's all dramabait for more clicks.

>> No.38765745

>>38765559
i've been ripping it myself. 31 vids so far ~47 GB
i'm worried collab stuff will get taken down too

>> No.38765770

>>38765745
If you need anything downloaded, just post the VODs of the streams or Ragtags and I'll get them. Collabs should probably be safe but better to take them anyway

>> No.38765775

>>38765734
That's what I'm thinking, main question is why does he do this. This isn't even about Mafu anymore, this man really wants her to burn all her bridges

>> No.38765810

>>38765775
Clicks, Attention ,$,€,¥,£.
Or he's just a sick fuck who knows?.

>> No.38765854

>>38765770
i'm going to grab everything myself from youtube. you shouldn't rely on ragtag.
>>38765775
So you agree there's like a 99.9% chance it's all bullshit? The framing doesn't even make sense. You can't claim she's a victim yet wants to tear the company down

>> No.38765859

new thread soon?

>> No.38765862

I loved Rushia but Mikeneko killed her

>> No.38765863

>>38765775
It's why I really just can't stand this fat fuck, it's so obvious that everything he's doing is calculated and done in such a way that he can avoid accountability for what he's doing completely. He claims to be on Rushia's side but makes fun of her all the time but not directly, whenever he makes fun of her he claims like he has no idea what's going on. He literally made this document in this stream and put the engagement ring on the bottom, then acted like he didn't have a clue what it was, he went out of his way to hire an impersonator to mock her and then acts like it's the real Rushia. In this stream he's acting like he's some kind of hero of justice and that he was just trying to protect her, and then in the very same stream casually drops the biggest fucking rrat of all which is an even worse accusation than everything we've known so far and makes her look absolutely terrible. Like, he absolutely must have known how that would make her look if she said something like that. The fact that people keep dick-sucking him in the comments is just mind numbing.

>> No.38765871

>>38765734
Then why doesn't she just come out on her Twitter and say it's all a lie? Surely if she's being slandered this much she'll come out and say Kore's a liar who's dragging her name through the dirt. She still hasn't tweeted anything of the sort yet.

>> No.38765892

Let me just leave this here:

When the shitstorm started. Korekore responded immediately on stream.
Saying things like "ah, they messed up", "finally they have to come out".
This implied that they are indeed in a relationship.
He said this despite he knows how Mafumafu does his business (fujo gachikoi). He probably knows about how vtuber community works too, since he said something about the avatar and the voice actress being seperate.
Instead of calming people down and confirm things with those two first, he immediately jumped the gun and spouted shit.

Then Mafumafu made a statement. What Korekore did?
He told a story about those 2 had dinner and some shit. Was it true? I doubt it now.
So, what's the result? It threw Rushia under the bus. It probably also made himself clear from Mafu's gachikoi fujos.

Rushia got fired, and people are blaming him.
There are even legal threats.
What did he do?
Instead of "I'll shut up for now and consult to a lawyer about what to say or what not to say", he said that Rushia texted him about bullying at work and shit.

You see the pattern here?
He shifted people's focus and clear himself from this shit.
He even made himself look like a hero.
I mean, look at the video at the start of his recent stream.

Have Rushia ever contacted him?
Maybe.
Maybe just recently. Maybe it was the past.

When Cover asked Rushia:
"Do you know this person?"; "Have you contacted the person?"; "Have you ever sent him a photo or chat log?"
Well, the answer is "yes", but it's not necessarily about the recent events. It might be the one from 2018.
But, still... the answer is yes.
"But I don't say anything he claimed I say" Rushia said,
Well, it doesn't matter if Cover didn't believe her.
Maybe Cover assumed that this guy is 100% legit.
I mean... times and times again they often prove themselves to be incompetent. Probably barely even know how the internet works.

It would be funny (and tragic) if that's what happened.

>> No.38765893

>>38765734
>When is this 2nd round of screenshots supposed to be from?
6:45 AM on Feb 11th so it was a little after she provided everything to prove she's not dating mafumafu.

>> No.38765894

Do you guys really believe the convo of her saying she'll take everyone down with her and wants them to be unhappy is doctored?

>> No.38765903

>>38765775
He profits so much from this, this is literally his job.

>> No.38765905

>>38765871
We'll have to wait until tomorrow to hear what she has to say since she is most likely currently asleep

>> No.38765917

>>38765894
I don't know what to believe, but Rushia needs to say something about it ASAP.

>> No.38765928

>>38765871
hasn't seen it yet? or maybe since her panicking and rushing out a comment ended in her being fired, she decided to take her time on this one? maybe consult a lawyer?

>> No.38765934

>>38765928
Apparently she's already consulted/consulting a lawyer, maybe part of that process is legal stuff relating to Korekore himself. We don't know and can't know unless she says something.

>> No.38765937

>>38765892
You don't even speak English. Just stop posting.

>> No.38765939

Whether she'll do it or not, she's been there for almost 3 years and knew plenty of holos extremely well, she definitely could destroy many of them by leaking info

>> No.38765943

>Korekore is winning fans over with leaked DMs
The fucking irony, you toughed everything out but now, now you let him get to you.

>> No.38765945

>>38765893
Ok. So why was she expecting to be fired already and taking them down when she's supposed to be proving her innocence? Should we take the opposite stance now, that she sent kore everything so he would have the maximum material to work with for "sinking" Cover?

>> No.38765966

>>38765937
kek

>> No.38765973

Did Mikeneko ever follow Korekore on her twitter account? She currently doesnt follow him despite them being "friends"

>> No.38765988

>>38765973
Why would you even be friends with someone who time and time again leaks things you tell them not to leak and makes it worse for you?
I don't understand this at all

>> No.38766021

>>38765871
she said she was talking to a lawyer and this stuff pretty much just happened so we might need to wait a day or two to see if it gets to her

>> No.38766028

>>38765988
Shes a menhera with abondment issues, she would hang around anyone who gives her any validation, whether good or bad.

>> No.38766029

i'm not sure who to believe anymore

>> No.38766039

>>38764804
>Fubuki canary in the coalmine
Imagine unironically believing this shit

>> No.38766042

>>38766029
drama reporters get to your head like that

>> No.38766043

>>38765945
>So why was she expecting to be fired
Well if the arguments as to why she immediately went to korekore instead of just tweeting a vague denial is that she was menhera panicking and being desperate, why wouldn't she also expect she's going to get fired?

>> No.38766049

someone should write a book or at least a case study about this shit, it's literally a tragedy where everyone makes pretty much the worst decisions possible and you have no idea what the actual truth is

>> No.38766050

>>38766029
Until Rushia gets whatever she's doing in order and gives a clear statement on her stance on everything, the truth will remain foggy

>> No.38766058

>>38765973
She didn't follow mafumafu either yet here we are. Does having him on LINE not count somehow?

>> No.38766086

>>38765854
Good luck then, you have time

>> No.38766099

I'm glad at least the reception here is that Kore may be full of shit, the problem is the vocal majority twitterfags are currently buying the shit he's spewing. Her silence about this is baffling, I really hope when she said she's lawyering up, it's against this guy because I don't see how this guy can just walk away hands clean from this situation despite the harm he's fucking caused

>> No.38766107

>>38766039
i dont but everyone else does
>>38766043
then why try to prove innocence at all? or even if she gave kore some insurance plan, he fucked it up by saying she wanted to tear it down.

>> No.38766119

>>38766086
it's a little over 800 videos with collabs. 30-ish a day and i'll hopefully beat cover to the punch

>> No.38766129

>>38766099
that's what i don't get either. both he and mafu have showed DM's from Rushia, shouldn't cover be getting on that?

>> No.38766136

>>38766119
Well, I'll stay here so if you think it'll be a bit hard for you to do it in time, just say it and I grab videos starting from the oldest or something

>> No.38766137

>>38766099
Isn't it like 3AM in jpn right now?

>> No.38766161

>>38766136
how are you planning to do it faster? sure i could set up a script and run it but i figure yt will cut me off for that

>> No.38766165

>>38765892
>Have Rushia ever contacted him?
just a casual observer but is there anything direct from rushia confirming they've been in contact recently? i know she appeared in some streams with him years back which is what lends any credibility to the whole thing

>> No.38766175

>>38766129
Besides fire her and maybe sent a threatening E-mail?

>> No.38766190

>>38766161
Not him: I was downloading videos one by one last night. Didn't get locked out, but the download speed got shitty.

>> No.38766193

>>38766099
The really funny thing is Korekore as soon as he heard the news drop said he was gonna make a stream about it revealing more info and only after that fact did that change to "Rushia contacted me and said so-and-so", he was 100% planning on spinning a rrat about mafumafu and Rushia dating or something at first, and probably after Rushia supposedly contacted him with some proof did he hold his tongue, but he still tried to screw her with his stream anyway. When you look at it like that, doesn't it seem more like "Korekore inadvertently(?) pressured Rushia into giving him information"?

>> No.38766195

>>38766107
>he fucked it up by saying she wanted to tear it down.
But she said to show her messages, and he did.

>> No.38766197

>>38766190
speed was fine for me except the chat json is always slow and sometimes drops

>> No.38766201

>>38766193
Anon, stop trying to shift the blame. Whatever happens the order is still Rushia 1. and that cunt 2.

>> No.38766204

>>38766161
I wasn't saying I could do it faster, just that I could get different videos so the workload is separated

>> No.38766212

>>38766201
I'm just saying, he is definitely not a good guy in this scenario.

>> No.38766229

>>38766204
ah. gotcha. i actually only have room on an external so i've been off-loading in chunks of 15GB-20GB

>> No.38766255

>>38766212
He's a massive piece of shit but the majority of the blame still lies on Rushia, even if I honestly don't think she did it with malicious intent.

>> No.38766295

>>38766229
So, do you want to do this alone for now?

>> No.38766302

>>38766255
I think that's the main theme of this topic since that asshole streamed today.
I genuinely believe she fucked up but she had no malicious intent, whether or not that fat fuck manipulated her with the rrats is unknown but i'm not going to dismiss that he's a known liar. The fact that this is the last he'll allegedly speak on the topic and he ends it by throwing her under the boss just doesn't sit right with me. Cover should at least be able to sue him for defamation. Hell even Rushia should be able to sue him if he indeed is just spilling rrats

>> No.38766341

>>38766295
i figured it was every man for himself. archives should be dropping on /t/ at any time though so it may not be necessary

>> No.38766346

>>38766302
She's contacted a lawyer afaik, nothing to do but wait and see how this plays out I guess.

>> No.38766348

>>38766255
>>38766302
but if his screenshots are to be taken as face, how can we say she had no malicious intent when she said she wanted to tear it all down?

>> No.38766391

>>38766348
Simple, I don't take anything at face value when it comes to people who make money off of creating drama. I'll just see how all of this plays out and make my judgement when more facts come to light.

>> No.38766398

>>38766348
If all of his screenshots are to be taken at face value, she told him she was being bullied by her seniors and to leak it only if she gets fired so she takes them down with her. That alone is unjustifiable. If we're to take it at face value.

>> No.38766400

>>38766348
If the reason for firing her was leaking stuff to krkr, why would she write this kind of shit to him?

>> No.38766412

I'd really like to believe the messages were shopped but is he really the type to risk catching a defamation suit from Rushia just to keep this drama going? He seems to be privy of that possibility too since he apparently asked cover what is and isn't ok to show from her account

>> No.38766439

>>38766391
>>38766398
so are they fake or is did she actually do it maliciously?
>>38766400
that's what doesn't make sense if they were supposedly sent at the same time as the mafu mafu stuff. if they're real then it would mean she was already expecting to be fired for something

>> No.38766441

>>38766412
>He seems to be privy of that possibility too since he apparently asked cover what is and isn't ok to show from her account
I've not seen any evidence of that so that's a rrat unless proven otherwise.
Also if you didn't notice, he censors names and images in the screenshots which likely allows for plausible deniability. I can understand censoring the profile pics and names of others, but censoring the name of the person he claims to be talking about when they refer to themselves? That reeks of bs to me, and probably how he manages to do this without getting into deep shit.

>> No.38766448

>>38766412
isn't she probably going to try one anyway?

>> No.38766453

>>38766398
I mean, if someone was bullying her, someone needs to be fired too

>> No.38766461

>>38766400
It also doesnt make sense considering in her latest twitcast she said she didnt want people to spread any more rumors, and the very next day kore does this

>> No.38766481

>>38766439
I'll tend towards fake until more information comes out that would make me believe the contrary.

>> No.38766535

>>38766400
Because she did it on the 11th after talking to him about how she's not dating or living with anyone. She was so panicked that he went to him right after she saw the drama take over and thought if she can't clear it up she will get fired or she'll quit herself.

>> No.38766545

>>38766461
This, I guess all we can do is wait until further stuff is revealed. We still don't know who she's seeking legal action against. The longer this rrat goes on without clarification the bigger it gets

>> No.38766551

>>38766441
>censoring the name of the person he claims to be talking about when they refer to themselves?
When did he do that?

>> No.38766557

I can't believe I'm reading so much FUDposting everywhere

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>>38766551
I figured that's what this screenshot from 13:15 and the part at 22:47 was with those small censored pieces in his screenshots (not any text he wrote for the stream itself of course). At least that's what it sounded like.

>> No.38766672

>>38766623
That's a suicide implication, he censored those even from the mikeneko tweets.
The second one is not her name either, but probably a strong word he doesn't want to show, just like with the suicide stuff since it's before "I want them all to be unhappy"

>> No.38766706

so what are we doing another thread when this one 404's?

>> No.38766736

>>38766706
We are. I'm not up for it though. It doesn't feel right yet.
t. thread OP of the previous era

>> No.38766742

>>38766099
Kore may be bullshitting with some things, but I think it's delusional to think everything we hear from everywhere is wrong and she is in the right here

>> No.38766750

>>38766672
Ah hah, okay I rescind my retarded claim on that one then. Thanks for the clarification, I've not combed super heavy but just found those points odd and it sounded like they were meant to be referring to herself or an alias in a couple cases.

>> No.38766770

>>38766742
I mean right from the start, talking to Korekore and providing any kind of information at all was a wrong decision.

>> No.38766783

>>38766742
The most chilling thing for me is that barely 2~3 vtubers were visibly sad because of Rushia's termination. The fact that most of them stopped at some cold corpospeak ("we'll work hard / please keep supporting us") says quite a lot.

>> No.38766804

Here's a scenario.
She loses it over the rrats and goes full "Yeah, I lied to you the entire time, so what?"
Could you handle that?

>> No.38766806

>>38766770
Of course, though I could at least somewhat understand the motivation in that she felt unable to address it until many days later when cover would be back in office but she couldn't bear everything exploding around her to she tried to at least do away with the mafu stuff

But now? I could imagine her being the type to be vengeful

>> No.38766823

>>38766412
There's no way he would risk that. He has no reason at all to fake his screenshots. What can not be trusted however, is the actual conversation and how earnest it is. The fact that Rushia came out of nowhere to ask some dramatuber (who she supposedly know for years but are not friend with) for advices about her workplace is extremely weird.
When she messaged him those lines, was she expecting it to be aired for everyone, including the lines where she talked bad about her co-worker and employer? Probably not. Did she actually mean what she said? Well, Rushia's definition of being bullied can be rather loose. But I sure hope that isn't the case, and that she meant no harm.

Whatever it is, it doesn't matter to him though. He didn't care about the truth or clearing anyone's name. His plan was to degrade everyone else while elevating himself. He is extremely narcissistic. I've never watched him before but it is clear the moment he plays that introduction video.
I'll give it to him though. He is quite smart and charming.

>> No.38766829

>>38766804
No? I wouldn't even be okay with it if she admitted to the whole trying to date mfmf after confessing to him thing
Right now I mainly just want to hear her talk about everything, because she deserves to at least talk about it. Can always make up my mind on whether I stick with her after that

>> No.38766833

>>38766804
Not my oshi just an occasional watcher, I'd be fine.

>> No.38766858

This shit turned out to be worse than the Meiro and Roa shitshow. Fuck I hate these drama channels so fucking much

>> No.38766873

>>38766783
I'm not sure that most of them were actually privy to the full extent of what was actually said though.

>> No.38766878

>>38766858
it's not even over yet

>> No.38766883

>>38766858
Seriously, this whole thing has cemented why I hate drama channels

>> No.38766884

>>38766858
Never expected a bigger shitstorm than the T-word

>> No.38766898

>>38766858
Interesting how you're not blaming her at all

>> No.38766911

>>38766898
I think it's been said enough and it's a consensus that talking to Korekore was a terrible decision and she fucked up badly

>> No.38766914

>>38766829
I wouldn't want that either but I'd rather deal with she had feelings for mafumafu at one point but got over them when she realized she misinterpreted the way he was acting over she's a vengeful rrat peddler trying to screw everyone over with baseless claims to drama channels.

>> No.38766920

Let Cover Burn.
Burn it all to the fucking ground.

>> No.38766951

>>38766920
Depending on those bullying accusations being real I wouldn't be opposed to that. But if they were real more shit would have been exposed by other holomen and there would be more signs so I don't think they are real

>> No.38766953

>>38766920
Why?

>> No.38766961

>>38766951
Whistleblowers exist throughout history. Many times people stayed silent until one brave hero spoke out.

>> No.38766966

>>38766804
Hell no.

>> No.38767003

>>38766951
what if it's more controlled bullying? not everyone sees it, etc.

>> No.38767005

I've seen some people saying that one of the screenshots is from november; which one is that or is it bulllshit?

>> No.38767015

>>38767005
The one where she apparently contacted Korekore to ask about Mafumafu's previous relationships was from November

>> No.38767025

>>38766951
if they were real does that mean cover is covering it up? would they sudoku 2 holos at once if it were true?

>> No.38767029

>>38766804
I will follow her through the fire and flames to purgatory. If she means to burn it all down, us included, then I thank her for the comfy campfire and take out my pack of marshmellows as the flames engulf me.

>> No.38767033

>>38767015
I'm still mad, all signs point to it being true that she had romantic feelings for him AND tried to act on them

>> No.38767048

>>38767015
ok so all the rest are from the same batch she handed kore both to prove her innocence and to serve as an insurance package? just trying to make sure i have all the details straight.

>> No.38767058

Retarded question but will this actually fuck cover and the other girls in the long term regardless of if the bullying or shit is true or not? Because aloe's shit was her dipping out when she couldn't handle the threats against her loved ones and Coco's deal is the obvious but atleast that ended on "good terms". This shit however is a different level since it involves NDA fuckery and grifters

>> No.38767071

>>38767058
>will this actually fuck cover
They just let go of a $3m earner. You do the rest of the math.

>> No.38767074

>>38767058
Only if she somehow uncovers some giant evil ongoing thing about a massive bully culture with staff driving talents into insanity and adds a few x has a bf btw

>> No.38767079

>>38767058
Unless he provides proof I don't see how that could damage their reputation more than it damages Mike's.
They can just say she is spiteful over being fired and making shit up and being fired by NDA already hurts your credibility with everyone around you.

>> No.38767082

She could at least thanks her gen mates for the good time, why is she like this ? It's like they even don't exist for her anymore.

>> No.38767087

>>38767074
If Rushia has somehow uncovered some giant bully culture at Cover then I gotta give her a round of applause but that's dreaming a little big

>> No.38767092

>>38767071
Aren't they at the point where they make more via other means outside of SC?

>> No.38767102

>>38766920
The only thing they did wrong this time was take a few days too long by doing the unthinkable nip thing and actually giving people time off

>> No.38767103

>>38767071
well i mean they did kill all of CN. and then let Coco go anyway. fucking retarded decision

>> No.38767110

>>38767102
just before Valentine's Day which is a fairly big thing for some vtubers, especially Rushia with her GFE shtick.

>> No.38767111

>>38767048
no, just skim through the stream, there's clear date for all the messages.

>> No.38767117

>>38766858
It's not worse until someone else is on an indefinite break.

>> No.38767125

>>38767025
Their simps would justify it somehow.

>> No.38767141

so are we basically not beliving her anymore? because it's getting closer and closer to impossible to. although my personal cope is that her being dumb she could feel slighted about stuff and get vindictive about it when things got so bad.

I'm still not sure why she was worried about being fired at the time she talked to kore about proving innocence. like why would she need to give him a bunch of dirt too? unless leaking to him wasn't the reason for her being fired.

>> No.38767155

>>38767141
I'm still here. Believing. Waiting for her words.

>> No.38767158

>>38767141
Let's just wait for a proper statement from her first so we're absolutely clear where she stands.

>> No.38767163

>>38767141
Waiting to see what she says about this, not going to believe what a drama peddler says at face value, specially when its clear he doesn't care for her

>> No.38767171

>>38767141
It's nigh impossible for all of these things to not be true, but regardless I will hear her speak and address it herself. She deserves that much after these years.

>> No.38767182

>>38767141
I'd believe Japanese Keemstar if he hadn't been a complete clown throughout this entire situation for weeks. I believe he's just bullshitting and trying to get as much attention from this as possible.

>> No.38767198

>>38767141
She is an idiot, a big one indeed, she made her situation worse day by day, she is the kind to panic fast, maybe you guys could help me about this, but I remember one time Rushia streamed over the birthday of a Holomem, after the chat pointing this out, she was lost for words, she even asked to the chat if she should contact her manager, do you remember this ?

Well that's Rushia, she lose her shit way too quickly and can't handle any pressure.

>> No.38767206

>>38767198
Yeah, I remember that. It's not even malice on her end she's just a bimbo with mental issues

>> No.38767209

then the next question is, what do we do if it's all true? i don't want to think she's a bad person and after everything i can't just let her go like this

>> No.38767212

>>38767141
I believe that she's stupid and self destructive.

>> No.38767213

>>38767209
If it's true then that mean cover is legitimately going to be in hot water

>> No.38767216

>>38767209
Depends on the bullying. Was she bullied by multiple people? How severe was the bullying? Did Cover turn away from that and just tried to sweep it under the rug?
Lots of stuff that will never be properly explained probably

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>>38767209
> what do we do
Drinking. No better ideas for now.

>> No.38767251

at this point i think even if she came out and said she was faking everything since the very beginning, i would still feel distraught and like i had lost a friend. even if it turned out she was only ever an illusion

>> No.38767278

>>38767141
I always believe those that speak truth to power. What I want to know is, why are you believing cover?

>> No.38767311

>got around to seeing haachama's stream and saw her MC house
Jesus fucking christ

>> No.38767319

>>38767251
While I do kinda get what you mean I hope you'd have enough self-respect to walk away at that point

>> No.38767886

I've defended Cover through every controversy but the more I do it something doesn't seem right, but I always put it to the back of my mind.
I'm not saying i'll believe in this rrat but I'm starting to realize that maybe Holomems are not all on friendly terms with each other afterall and they've just been really good at hiding it from viewers. Obviously I shoulda realized this shit way earlier but idk. I need to see a proper response from her

>> No.38767915

>>38767251
Do you think anime, manga, or games are fake just because it's all fiction? This is cheesy as fuck to say but whatever emotions you felt from experiencing following a vtuber are still real.

>> No.38768022

>>38766039
Reddit keeps spouting this shit as if she doesn't have obligations that will keep tied unless there's truly a massive fuckup don't understand nip psychology and look at shit from a very western individualistic mindset.

>> No.38768055

>>38767886
I mean, with the amount of holomem that exist right now it's only natural that some of them don't get along, and they're good at hiding it when they need to.
I don't think they'd go so far as to bully each other though.

>> No.38768065

>>38767886
The only thing you need is meds.

>> No.38768734

>>38745388
dammit bitch just start your new channel already before the momentum dies

>> No.38768917

>>38768734
99% chance she's too wrapped up in legal and living situation shit to even think about that right now

Plus didn't it take kson a few months to get up and running post-graduation? And that was leaving with the blessings and well wishes of her entire corp.

>> No.38768950

>>38768917
This, i'm not sure if she's still working out the whole moving thing yet, but yeah probably gonna be at least a few weeks before we see some activity

>> No.38769026

>>38767141
Point to a single proof Kore has provided or stop being a gullible cunt and shut the fuck up.

>> No.38769151

test

>> No.38769195

>>38767311
honestly that was pretty fucked up thing to do not gonna lie

>> No.38769215

>>38767311
>>38769195
Yeah, but then again, *they* won't be able to erase R's house from existence. I can't decide if haachama's taking the piss or genuinely trying to preserve R's legacy.

>> No.38769454

>>38767141
Assuming it's all true, the only questions left for me are which actions can be attributed to malice and which to mental illness? How badly was she wronged that she felt trying to destroy holo was a proportional payback? If she was wronged at all.

>> No.38769511

>>38769454
The only thing that backs up that "claim" of wanting to take down hololive is if the bullying thing is actually genuinely true

>> No.38769514

>>38766823
>When she messaged him those lines, was she expecting it to be aired for everyone, including the lines where she talked bad about her co-worker and employer? Probably not.
The messages ask him to make everything she said public if she disappears.

>> No.38769554

>>38769511
The bullying was supposedly being done by one person. Seems kind of disproportional and fucked up to want to make "everybody" miserable.

>> No.38769590

>>38769587

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