/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Are you learning moonrunes to support your doujin hobbies? How's it coming along? I'd ask in the DJT but it's mainly made up of annoying avatarfags and I want some nice laid back discussion about learning Japanese for doujin or other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
People on djt are meanies

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581695
Most of them are genuinely retarded. Anytime I go there to talk about learning Japanese I get distracted by some off topic shit like them crying about how women won't fuck them or the Chinese and I get sidelined and start banting them. Also there's a lot of namefags which is always massive fucking a red flag.

[Anonymous No.]

djt is not a japanese learning thread and we should all stop pretending it is, its a general populated by people learning japanese

>>38581574
>How's it coming along?
i spend much more time listening than reading but i cant help it, listening its more comfortable
i like sol a lot which was great when i was starting but now it may be slowing my progress as i understand pretty much everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
djt is different not we purged the namefags and triptards, feel free to check it out, best its been in a while lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
I've been wondering actually, this might be a good place to ask
what does だもの mean in this context?

[Anonymous No.]

Learning verbally is easier than learning the kanji, when I listen to music or watch some videos I understand a lot more than I used to in the past
But now my textbooks and cards look at me menancingly across the room everyday and I am thinking of just beating the shit out of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>38582399
大人だ もの

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
I was able to look up the name of a 酒 bottle from a picture so I could buy it

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
Yes
Not good.

I learned Ki the other day 樹. Thanks zelda.

[Anonymous No.]

What is this danbooru translation? Isn't se*pause*no or se-no this?:
https://jisho.org/word/%E3%81%9B%E3%81%88%E3%81%AE

[Anonymous No.]

oops, forgot the danbooru link https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4549189

[Anonymous No.]

>>38582833
she wanted to say sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38582399
https://kotobank.jp/word/だもの-2060693

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
Progress is slow, it's not going very well honestly but I'm not giving up. I should force myself to read more instead of just doing repetitions and listening.
Rumors of Japan opening gives me motivation.
Yuyu a cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574

[Anonymous No.]

so is duolingo retarded or can i actually gleam a good start from them.
my goal is being able to read untranslated vn

[Anonymous No.]

>>38584055
Duolingo is not intended for language learning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38584055
It's good for learning katakana and hiragana.
Not much else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38584055
Duolingo is good for romance languages (spanish, german, etc) but horrible for Japanese. You'd be better off downloading a Japanese VN and making up a story in your head as you go along than you'd be using Duolingo. The app's method of teaching you is to throw random sentences at you which is fine for something like Spanish but with a language like Japanese that functions completely differently from English it's useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38582801
raising my 樹!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>38584079
>>38584176
>>38584229
yea thought as much. ill run though their katakana and hiragana until ive memorized them at least, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>38584279
Good luck, it starts out hard, then gets easier, then gets even harder again, but eventually it'll click if you stick with it.

[Anonymous No.]

be sure to read doth's story https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/l51r3d/my_500_day_journey_to_a_160180_n1_score_w_tips/

and jazzy's story https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/sedr0m/how_i_got_180180_on_n1_in_85_months/

A detailed guide of what they did can be found on
https://animecards.site/learningjapanese/

But essentially what it boils down to is:

* Start reading every day (and listening)
* Go through a grammar guide (like Tae kim)
* Go through a common vocab deck (like core2.3k)
* Mine stuff into Anki that you encounter in your Japanese media

Super useful tips: https://rentry.org/gitgud

Advanced mining setup guide: https://rentry.org/mining

here is lamune from the last thread https://mega.nz/file/gp9mELTZ#ZC6cOeMyWQddL7xbrGNQOn8_cDZoTbFR6zgxaIxYBL8

also for people still looking for summer pockets reflection blue
https://mega.nz/file/F5UXCKhC#Nl9pXTNFqEKoCRZ7O-9msRX-pRfp1g35rK4R4aQzCwI

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
moonrunes was not that hard, i did individual kanji study of all the jlpt kanji and then vocab.
Now i'm finishing my 6k deck but i skipped all the words with no kanji.
grammar bores me a bit so i'll do it when i finish the 6k deck
i've learned i bunch of stuff by checking the dictionary and googling
When you check too much the dictionary for kanji you inderectly learn stuff like 4 letters idioms and expressions
(Also lot of the dictionary kanji definitions talk about buddhism or China)

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581745
djt is actually awful for using japanese on a daily basis, it's only slightly useful if you're only learning how to read vn's and doujins

[Anonymous No.]

>read through grammar
>start reading hentai
>it omits all particles and everything I've read

[Anonymous No.]

>>38585901
I've been studying 10 months and learned maybe 7000 words. I've made progress, I guess, but it's a drop in the ocean.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been studying 10 months and learned maybe 7000 words. I've made progress, I guess, but it's a drop in the ocean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38585202
lmao pls dont read any of those "stories", especially not the jazzy, cuz hes a fraud and shopped his n1 cert.
those are fringe cases of losers who dwell in the basement of their parents and leech off of them. hardly anything that would be applicable to most people.
and most people strongly overexeggerate their own perceived skill. they arent what they make themselves appear to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
Updated guide: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/
Resources: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/resources.html
FAQ: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/faq.html

Daily reminder: targeted sentence cards are the most effective way to combine Anki with immersion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38586968
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38586968
good pic but stfu

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
I'm 25% through Core2.3k.
Reached "Essential" chapters of Tae Kim a few weeks ago but I don't have time or focus to continnue grammar study right now so I just do daily anki grind.

[Anonymous No.]

i just understand it

[Anonymous No.]

Updated guide: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/
Resources: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/resources.html
FAQ: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/faq.html

Daily reminder: targeted sentence cards are the most effective way to combine Anki with immersion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38587707
>>38587866
Don't bully tatsumoto, he is cool.

[Anonymous No.]

What's your secret for learning kanji, bros? How much time do you spend per kanji? 5 minutes? 20 minutes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38586713
go back to r/japanesecirclejerk

[Anonymous No.]

>>38584229
duolingo is garbage for german
t. german

[Anonymous No.]

>>38586713
>cuz hes a fraud and shopped his n1 cert.
this has been disproven
>those are fringe cases of losers who dwell in the basement of their parents and leech off of them.
both of them are college students and pursue other activities and have friends
>and most people strongly overexeggerate their own perceived skill
the jlpt and kanken is a test not a self-assessment

[Anonymous No.]

>>38584279
Try this https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/learn-hiragana/

You can use this and learn all the kana in a few days.

[Anonymous No.]

2000 kanji for common use
One Kanji can be read in many ways

[Anonymous No.]

>>38592461
it's more like 3.5k

[Anonymous No.]

>>38592578
Are you including 人名用？

[Anonymous No.]

>>38589707
>>38586968
thats an automated spambot that spams djt, please leave feedback at https://www.4channel.org/feedback of you want to be rid of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>38593455

[Anonymous No.]

>>38592915
why wouldn't you?
if you don't though it's still probably 3.2k

[Anonymous No.]

>>38592461
Yeah it's more like 3.5k just for normal living and if you care about being able to read shit comfortably it's more like 5k. Up to 7k if you want to read classical literature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38585202
i was a dev on sprb. can you faggots stop pirating it? if you're not going to pay for it then don't read it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38586713
i haven't read the stories myself (simply don't care to), but n1 in under a year is actually incredibly normal. there are a ton of language schools in japan which get their students from 0 to N1 in under a year so that they can enter into Japanese universities. N1 in under a year is a very normal speed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599093
no. call the police on me if you don't like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599093
no you weren't

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599119
not from zero

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599119
getting a perfect score is not normal at all in any amount of time. also most of those students are chinese so they save a lot of time not having to learn kanji. plus of course n1 is very crammable because of no output section

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599158
yes from zero

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599231
a whole lotta cope in this comment

[Anonymous No.]

i'm about 3 hours worth of content into my first raw VN. Finished heisig and tae kim about a month ago. Studied about a third of core2.3k then dropped in favor of actual reading. I switched to monolingual dictionaries days ago as well.
The most challenging aspect so far is to form a readable sentence in english in my head since japanese sentence structure is a bit weird at times

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599496
>form a readable sentence in english in my head
Don't bother doing that, just think in Japanese instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599689
easier said than done
in the beginning you aren't quite familiar with the concepts of japanese vocab/grammar yet and it can only get better with time. However you must bridge the gaps using your native language to get your feet wet

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599496
monolingual dictionaries are a waste of time for 90 percent of words
you don't need a japanese definition of ringo

[Anonymous No.]

>>38601206
sounds like you gave up before the glorious nippon kotoba

[Anonymous No.]

>>38601206
wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599496
>The most challenging aspect so far is to form a readable sentence in english in my head since japanese sentence structure is a bit weird at times
I gave up on translating to English in my head a long time ago. I can read something and understand it but if I try to translate it to English my brain gets fuzzy.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>38584229
>romance languages
>german

[Anonymous No.]

So, why is Duolingo bad? I never used it, so I know nothing about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
I started like half a year ago and have been mostly doing it hobby style so I'm not terribly proficient but I can manage basic manga. The whole point of this was to be able to play Net Idol Meister and Ryouou Gakuen, so I think those may be in reach soon.

[Anonymous No.]

I can read doujins in Japanese and used to translate them, should probably get back into that.
Took me several years to get comfortable with light reading, never really got comfortable with listening out of lack of need, but I can usually follow basic conversation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38604320
It's incredibly slow and focuses on translating sentences,which is a huge waste of time

It's a fun game but you're not learning much. It's made to be addictive, not necessarily useful

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581980
>djt is not a japanese learning thread and we should all stop pretending it is, its a general populated by people learning japanese
Essentially this.
The amount of fucks the average anons is going to actually give for boring, unengaging, blind-leading-the-blind language learning is simply not high enough for something as permanent as a general to be a vacuum for topical content, and nature abhors a vacuum.
Few in the general would actually appreciate off-topic being constantly dinged, because I imagine they actually do go somewhere else if the want a more restricted space. I find the ironic shitposting about it in the general to be a bit annoying though, since it begs someone thinking they actually consider it a problem to be solved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38601206
this man is your enemy

he wants to CRIPPLE YOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599496
>>38601709
Yup I have to agree with >>38599689 on this, but it just takes time.
I have to give a bunch of credit to my original Spanish teacher in high school for being a hardass enough in on-the-fly proficiency that eventually using the language required no internal translation. At some point, you should begin to associate nouns/adjs/etc with ideas and images before a direct english translation.

With Japanese this is especially critical since particles don't share a 1-to-1 with English, word order is different, and the amount of stated context required when speaking English is much higher than Japanese. Japanese to English can easily give you multiple valid translations that are composed very differently in the latter depending on how one handles ambiguity and context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38602580
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>>38602580
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[Anonymous No.]

>>38599496
>I switched to monolingual dictionaries days ago as well.
I wish I'd have done that sooner. The deck I made already has 3k words, and none of them have the meaning in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38607497
and are you gonna ever touch those cards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38607514
I try my best to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38607647
You know that we only ever cram as much basic words in your native language as possible as third graders, right? The actual studying continue for the rest of your life by immersion as part of living. As adults we don't need to rote memorize vocabulary as little kids cause sheer repetitions mostly take care of the job.
Anki is only as good as you make it out to be, which means its most effective to get your feet wet in the beginning. You don't need to be wed to it past your tolerance. Nope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38607193
dame

[Anonymous No.]

>>38607755
false, to get the kanji down in any sensible amount of time, nothing beats anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>38607755
It helps me a great deal, and it only takes about 20 to 30 minutes per day. It's also helps me learn kanji, so I can easily differentiate kanji that looks similar (e.g. 待 and 侍), knowing the meaning of words I haven't seen before (e.g. 艦隊, and 漁船), remembering the correct pronunciation of words (e.g. 主役 is not pronounced しゅうやく), and remembering words that are usually specific to a certain context (e.g. 拙者 used by samurai; 魔法陣 used for stories that have magic in it).

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599231
I don't understand how Japanese can be considered harder than Chinese.

[Anonymous No.]

Frens, is hellotalk a good app for chatting with elevens?

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>38608622
skypech
>>38607856
true true

[Anonymous No.]

>>38608535
I've learned both in my adults years to working extent from English, and I would definitely find Japanese harder overall, though Chinese is not easy. Compared to those two, something like Spanish is a cakewalk in terms of getting a working knowledge except Chilean Spanish wtf.

The two biggest hurdles in Mandarin Chinese compared to Japanese are understanding tones and a larger amount of commonly used characters.
The increased amount of characters isn't really that noticeable after picking up hanzi in the way you would kanji, and practically speaking most sentences are going to employ more one-character words and two-character words that pop up often unless you are reading something advanced.
Simple spoken Mandarin is more difficult to understand and reproduce from the beginning compared to simple spoken Japanese, but this difference becomes less and less pronounced as you begin to acquire a larger vocabulary and more complex conversation, as Japanese has a lot of homophones and has a less fixed placement of words beyond verbs. Romanization in both languages is a bit of a wash, though Japanese romanization should make more sense to weebs through previous context watching media. Mandarin Chinese has many less loanwords, but again not a big difference in everyday life.
Also, Mandarin Chinese largely shares English word order, usually keeps more context than Japanese in longer conversation/written language, and the use of particles, adjectives, prepositions is much more consistent than Japanese, so I found it much easier to progress from beginner to advanced long-form reading than in Japanese.

So long story short I had to retrain the way in which I processed language much more for Japanese than I did for Chinese, and most translations in modern Chinese to English are a lot more direct and definite than they tend to be for Japanese. Just my experience though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38608924
>skypech
What goes on there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38584055
In my opinion just do what keeps you motivated and what you find fun. If you can use duolingo for 3 hours, regardless of how efficient it is, that will be a more productive use of your time than staring at a textbook for 30 minutes and then getting bored/burnt out and walking away.

I think if you're a disciplined/patient person by nature textbooks (or better yet an actual class) are great but otherwise if Duolingo or a similar app keeps you more invested don't be afraid to stick with that for awhile.

[Anonymous No.]

I started RTK and Tae Kim last week.
I want to see if I can start reading something simple like よつばと！before my uni classes start next month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38612329
>rtk
based

[Anonymous No.]

anyone have an anki deck for names

[Anonymous No.]

>>38612329
good luck anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>38612329
Is it possible to learn to read よつばと in a month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38614253
sure

[Anonymous No.]

A thread about learning Japanese? I like the idea.
Does anyone have the Tango N1 deck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38614525
https://anacreondjt.gitlab.io/docs/coredeck/

[Anonymous No.]

the eastern yuropeons in the DJT thread are the worst

[Anonymous No.]

it doesn't really matter who is the worst as much as who gives them any headspace beyond reporting and ignoring if they aren't even talking about japanese
point to anyone it still applies

[Anonymous No.]

>>38615275
true true

[Anonymous No.]

>>38614253
If by reading you mean looking up stuff for most sentences and still only understanding 80%, that took me around 2 months of studying a few hours a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38615798
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
>Are you learning moonrunes to support your doujin hobbies?
yes

>How's it coming along?
I started with the core 2k6k vocab deck back in October, switched to the the core 2.3k deck and I was doing 20 cards per day. I might go up to 40 or 50 just to speed things up. I'm most likely going to start mining my own cards sometime in march but the frustration of me doing things poorly might get me to start by the end of this month. I mostly want to learn so I can understand art tutorials that I see shared a lot on twitter, youtube and pixiv as well as for some private reasons I might come across for university in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38618443
What's better about the core 2.3k deck than the 2k/6k deck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38614824
Why are people like this "special" kid shilling Core2k/6/8k/9k/14k/64k/140k decks all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm only learning a bit of vocab for now, no time unfortunately

[Anonymous No.]

>>38601206
>can't figure out the difference between the 3 はかる (計る, 量る, 測る)
>J-E dictionary groups them all together under the same entry
>which moonrune you use depends on what you're talking about (e.g. dimensions, time, weight)
many such cases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38619463
it's better for beginners, it has sentences on the front of the card which let you know how to pronounce the kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38620310
that would fall into the 10 percent genius

[Anonymous No.]

>>38619463
This is an Anki deck based on iKnow’s Core 6k deck with the following improvements:

All duplicates have been either removed (if they were not needed) or reworked to not be ambiguous using the hint field.
Words manually identified as redundant given other words in the deck have been removed.
Katakana loan words have been removed.
Card order is now sorted by average frequency of vn, narou, and bccwj (all frequencies are normalized in the same way as my new freq dicts)
Removed any word whose freq is greater than or equal to 89 in ANY of the freq dicts (if a particular freq dict doesn’t have it then that’s ok, as long as the ones that do say under 89)
If for some reason vn and narou don’t recognize the word then use mecab to parse it into component parts, treat least frequent part as the frequency of the whole (also if still not found in all freq dicts by this point then remove it)
Every kana word comes with a context snippet on the hint field to make it easier. The reason this is done for kana words and not for kanji words is because kanji carry meaning (which you should become familiar with) within themselves. Kana on the other hand don’t. The result is that reviewing kanji words context free is both viable and recommended (no reliance on specific contexts, faster reviews) while kana words are better learned using a context as assistance.
The card styling CSS has been tidied up and the default fonts now actually support Japanese. The previous deck caused a lot of clueless people to learn Chinese variants as the default font was ‘arial’ which has no Japanese defined for it causing your system to default to something else (i.e. often Chinese)
Images are already included meaning you don’t have to separately download them and put them inside your media folder.
The result is a deck made from the highest quality cards, in the most efficient order possible, and as much extra fluff/non-core words removed as possible. Also, despite keeping the same name for historical reasons, the deck is actually only ~1,970 cards in total

[Anonymous No.]

>>38620759
There are tons of cases:
生産 or 製造
制作 or 製作
分かる or 判る or 解る
窺う or 覗う
設備 or 装置 for equipment (e.g. air conditioner)
川 or 河
殲滅 or 絶滅 or 駆逐 or 退治 for exterminate
発行 or 出版 or 載せる for publish
etc.

[Anonymous No.]

someone post the clip of the japanese guy who cant read a vn please

[Anonymous No.]

>>38626656
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38619463
Nothing. All core decks do the exact same thing. The creator of Core2k doesn't perpetually live on 4chan shilling his deck though so that one has my vote over this new meme deck made by someone who doesn't know Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38630743
>The creator of Core2k
is a company, not a person
>All core decks do the exact same thing.
while they may all have the same goals, some achieve that goal better than others
>made by someone who doesn't know Japanese.
considering core2.3k only uses cards from Core2k/6k you'd have to criticize the original if you found a mistake on one of the cards

[Anonymous No.]

i'd not take advices from 4chan. They often distract you from what's already working for you by the usual teenagers' edge

[Anonymous No.]

I'm kinda shit at Japanese. I'm only just now learning Kanji so I struggle with it. Ideally would like a website that let's me read Manga or Doujin with text that is selectable so it can be used in Yomichan and Anki. Does such a thing exist? All I have found is one website that has been taken down and had a limited selection :|

I've just been using Google translate photo text recognition which is shit, and trying to write the Kanji with my fucked stroke order and handwriting and hoping it can recognize it. This just isn't practical when I have to loop up almost every word

[Anonymous No.]

>>38632388
just read manga with furigana you cretin
>but i have to use stroke order
u can use radicals
>b-but that's slow
so stop forgetting them

[Anonymous No.]

>>38599721
you're just crippling yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>38603727
people say romantic things in it so it's a romance language

[Anonymous No.]

>>38632388
Download kanjitomo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38632996
poopenfarten

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
Why yes yuyuker I am

[Anonymous No.]

>>38632996
japanese manko is the best thus its the most romantic language

[Anonymous No.]

>>38587947
just gonna remind you that isolated vocabulary study is next to useless

[Anonymous No.]

>>38639011
it's not useless, reading became 10x more enjoyable for me after doing a core deck

[Anonymous No.]

>>38639011
youre useless

[Anonymous No.]

>>38637883
Kissable Yuyuko

[Anonymous No.]

I'm asking for Kanji, but this is probably for anything Anki, really:
What do you do if you fuck something up, but it jogs your memory so you get something that comes up after (that you probably would have gotten wrong had it come first) correct? Should I just press hard even though after and thanks to that previous failure it became easy in the moment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38643840
just press good if you got it and again if you didn't. wasting time on contemplating 1% edge cases is retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>38643840
i pass them
same if i find a word when immersing that i forgot and then it comes in reviews next day
if you know it you know it, you can fail it next time if you dont know it then

[Anonymous No.]

>>38643840
overthinking it

[Anonymous No.]

starting to learn kanji, should I study the radicals too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38650813
assuming you don't mean the radicals that paper dictionaries are sorted by
you'll get used to the reoccurring components in different kanji the more you see them
i'd only be super conscious of them if you're using a good kanji-focused course (i.e. literally just KKLC) that sorts similar kanji together and uses the components' meanings to help form mnemonics

[Anonymous No.]

guys i memorized all the hiragana! now what

[Anonymous No.]

>>38651458
do it again but the other kind
have fun ٩(ˊᗜˋ )و

[QM !QM7QUiZ0ro No.]

>>38581574
very well
mostly stopped using anki after 23000 cards and i can read everything i want to without or minimal looking up and i have no problem understanding spoken japanese like in anime
it's a great, liberating feeling and i recommend it to everyone to learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>38651487
yay!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>38651458
Now start with the Greek alphabet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38651507
μαλάκα

[Anonymous No.]

learning was pretty fun and reading in the original language also but I have reached a point where learning the language itself does not entertain anymore. Of course there is the odd interesting word/kanji there but learning grammar was much more fun than memorising words on Anki. Maybe I should just be comptempt with what I achieved and just move on to Finnish or something, since it is one of my biggest wonders if the turanist/altaist/trans-eurasianist theories are actually true and I enjoy grammar very much

[Anonymous No.]

>>38651581
youre autistic i think

[Anonymous No.]

>>38651662
thank you doctor

[Anonymous No.]

>>38651688
that'll be 10000 US dollars

[Anonymous No.]

>>38651662
Wow /jp/ armchair psychologist

[Anonymous No.]

>>38651581
>I enjoy grammar very much
Yeah, something like Finnish, Hungarian, or Arabic is what you should look into

[Anonymous No.]

>>38650813
You don't really need to study all the radicals, but it helps if you study basic kanji which are also radicals. Just focus on kanji and check out some basic radicals like person radicals, fire radicals, 3 dot water, hand, heart, blade, etc. Just learn kanji as you go along, don't start cramming kanji you can't even use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38651707
currency situation is very bad, what else do you accept?
>>38651895
Arabic is literally useless. Finnish and Hungarian are novelties but Arabic literally has no use anywhere if you aren't planning to get rich by working in Gulf countries. Semetic languages are very ugly anyways, that's what you get when you cast away vovels

[Anonymous No.]

>>38652066
and on a side note it isn't guaranteed that the person you are speaking to will understand you since Arabic has so many dialects which differ so many from eachother. Another reason why learning Arabic is retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>38652066
>>38652091
The other 2 are even more useless than Arabic, but to each their own. I can't into religion at all, so Arabic is not for me, but the grammar seems wild.
And it's true that everyone speaks dialects that are not like the standard. It's true for Finnish as well though, everyone speaks a dialect, and nobody speaks the standard language. Hungarians do speak like the standard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38651501
based quizmaster!

how's the family?

[QM !QM7QUiZ0ro No.]

>>38652660
very well, thanks for asking

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
Pretty good!
I went through a whole chapter of a manga and only used the dictionary 3 times and with only 1 gramma point bugging me.
I think that around summer I would be able to read without aids.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38581574
I spent over a year but didn't get anywhere. I know it's because I didn't actually put in the effort.
Trying to restart it for real this time and so far, I can see real progress being made.

[Anonymous No.]

getting there

[Anonymous No.]

I like Japanese urban legends, and I want to try to read some in Japanese. Does anyone know any collections or websites that are simple to read? I'm beyond N4 but not very experienced in consooming books