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Why does every single program made by these retards focus solely on "traditional" and "artisanal" japanese culture? They even edit out shit like cars and cellphones from all their programs.
Shit like this is why weaboos go abroad to teach english expecting everyone to wear a kimono and wooden shoes.

>> No.38531477

?? they air a lot of programs highlighting what you said yes but they also have other more normal programs, idk what youre on
ofc theyre going to show what tourists would be interested in, not daily japan life, nobody wants to see that shit

>> No.38531496

>>38529286
Why do you watch normalfaggot tv and then complain about it on the otaku media board?

>> No.38531583

>>38531477
>daily life
I'm not asking for daily life retard. I'm asking for something that isn't about some 18th generation fag making handmade bamboo haircombs or onions sauce or whatever every single time.

>>38531496
NHK world is less normalfag than half the threads on /jp/ which are about pop music or porn

>> No.38531694

>>38531583
How about you take your hostile ass back to /v/ and stop shitting up the board even more.

>> No.38531713

>>38531694
Sorry you got exposed for being a normalfag.

>> No.38531828

>>38531583
>I'm asking for something that isn't about some 18th generation fag making handmade bamboo haircombs or onions sauce or whatever every single time.
that's how the outside world view Japan and they curate it to show exactly that - people that pay attention to miniscule details, hard working imbued with traditionalism and romanticism.
however it seems strange of you to vent this on /jp/

>> No.38531880

>>38531583
Why are you so angry dude? Stop trying to incite some hostile debate, this isn't the board for it.
Furthermore, what are we supposed to do about it? Just change the channel or something.

>> No.38531917

>>38531828
>that's how the outside world view Japan
no they don't. Only weaboos do.
If you ask random people about japan they bring up tentacle porn and "worlds highest suicide rate" well before anything handmade

>>38531880
>what are we supposed to do about it?
for this thread: discuss why NHK they misrepresents their own country

>> No.38532343

>>38531917
>If you ask random people about japan they bring up tentacle porn and "worlds highest suicide rate" well before anything handmade
this sounds like extreme normies, the kind of people who doesn't give a single fuck about Japan at all.
NHKWorld doesn't exactly pander to these. The channel is great for anyone who seeks for certain subcultures of Japan, such as handcrafted goods, noodles (yes, they are serious about it), festivals, trains, public transports, etc.
>>38531917
>discuss why NHK they misrepresents their own country
the channel wants to congregate everything that they deem "the good aspects" of Japan and its people. At least that's the vibe I get from it.
Any country would do the same, would they not?

>> No.38533054

why do you play modded minecraft

>> No.38533385

>>38533054
not OP but I have no idea what Minecraft is

>> No.38533865

>>38533385
>>>/vg/371929903

>> No.38533985

does nhk do propaganda like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPLjOUQpp0M

>> No.38534971

I like NHK World, my favorite show is the one where they follow a gaijin around doing an ordinary job and show how clueless and bumbling they are

>> No.38535043

>>38534971
>they follow a gaijin around doing an ordinary job and show how clueless and bumbling they are
based

They should keep showing content like that so that when I finally move to Japan I will be able to amaze everyone with my moderate level of competency.

>> No.38535103

>>38533865
What a retard. /vg/shitter needs to go back to his trash board already.

>> No.38538234

>>38532343
>This sounds like extreme normies
Yes? AKA "how the outside world view Japan", like you said yourself.
>The channel is great for anyone who seeks for certain subcultures of Japan
No, like I said, they deliberately avoid large parts of japanese culture, even actively editing it out of their programs. The only thing that gets displayed is traditional "OMG SO WHOLESOME" stuff

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>>38538234
outside world also have people that actually have an interest in exploring Japan's more niche cultures. The people that immediately think of
>tentacle porn and "worlds highest suicide rate" well before anything handmade
are not those.
>No
ok.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/ondemand/video/2089005/
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/ondemand/video/2091005/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLir9O4QvNU
don't see any of those
>traditional "OMG SO WHOLESOME" stuff
here, just how technologies are used and how they were developed. Of course, they don't go into the nitty gritty of materials and designs, but still, you get the idea.
I'm just there for Peter Barakan.

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>>38539820
>people that actually have an interest in exploring Japan's more niche cultures
exactly, not just "MUH HERRITAGE SWORD MAKING SENSEI OMAKASE"
Japanology is actually a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Look at the season with the episode you posted 80-90% is about traditional crafts as if that's what your average Japanese works with

>> No.38541383

>>38540970
Your average Japanese doesn’t work in crafts, but traditional arts are still interesting aren’t they? If there was such a channel for say, the USA, you would not want to learn about the latest hollywood movies would you? It’d be a lot more interesting to learn about the nature, or the different movements in painting and photography

>> No.38541558

>>38540970
From that list, I see:
Taiko, Karuta, Footwear (maybe), Onions Sauce, Fusuma, Geiko Maiko, Wasabi, Roof Tiles, Silk, Basedbeans, Chrysanthemums, Hiragana, Udon
that's 13 out of 43 that could show "traditional craftsmanshift", maybe adding another for Pearl, but that's nowhere near 80-90% like you claimed.
Anyway, these aren't just about "traditional craftsmanshift". They are also about how the Japanese have adopted these aspects into their lives and some has built their own culture around certain topics, much like how this board is for otakus to gather around and talk about otaku cultures. Some parts of Japanese are enthusiastic about Bridges, some about Silk, some about the intricacies of Tenpura and its simple, but enjoyable history.
I'm still not sure what your problem is. Anyone with a single brain cell will immediately know that Japan isn't
>everyone to wear a kimono and wooden shoes.

>> No.38542113 [DELETED] 

>>38541383
>but traditional arts are still interesting aren’t they?
Yes, but not 90% of whats interesting about japan.

>>38541558
nigga the very first episode you ignored literally begins with "Sentou is a traditional type of bathouse enjoyed for centuries" The entire episode is about the history of Sentou and how the traditions and the craftsmanship in construction/design still live on today.
It's a prefect example of what I said. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about and your post is irrelevant.

>> No.38542180

>>38529286
Tourism, are you dumb? It's simple.

>> No.38542737

>>38529286
And what's the problem with that? There is more to Japan than anime, onsen, high school, big eyed blondes with oversized chests.

>> No.38542813

>>38542737
There's also more to japan than bamboo haircombs

>> No.38542899

>>38531880
/thread

>> No.38543109

>>38542113
salty for what reason?
even with Sentou, which I did not consider a traditional craftsmanship as a whole, you get 14 out of 43 :)
you seem yo be viewing things from a very narrow lens, scrutinizing a small insignificant part against what? You missed the entire point of the episode and now you're moving goal post from your original
>focus solely on "traditional" and "artisanal" japanese culture? They even edit out shit like cars and cellphones from all their programs.
which has already been proven untrue.

>> No.38543210

>>38543109
>which I did not consider
because you obviously have no idea what you're talking about and your post is irrelevant. Come back when you've actually watched the program you're talking about.

>> No.38550395

>>38529286
>They even edit out shit like cars and cellphones from all their programs
I feel like OP and everyone else really just blew right past this

what do you MEAN they edit out cellphones and cars? like they have to put hentai pixels all over everything when they show footage of shibuya crossing or something

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>>38542737
yes...

>> No.38550678

>>38531583
i like pop music and porn

>> No.38550748

Peter Barakan is an honorary jaypee

>> No.38554942

>>38539820
>I'm just there for Peter Barakan.
Same. Japanology is just too cozy, best NHK show for sure.
Although I like Document 72 hours as well.

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38555242

>>38550395
>put hentai pixels all over everything when they show footage of shibuya crossing or something
no, but they make sure it's super early in the morning and they probably film it 10 times to get something like this.
Compare that to unedited footage on youtube.

>> No.38555346

What are they supposed to show, then? How the Yamaha Corporation assembles their bows and arrows, and how the Yamaha Motor Company creates their golf carts and speedboats?

>> No.38555547 [DELETED] 

>>38529286
I still remember the one program about a nigger from Nigeria or some other African shithole who was complaining that his shop was going under. He literally didn't speak a word of Japanese but had the audacity to say 'Japan is my home and I will always be here until the day I die' or something along those lines. I hope his business failed and he was deported back to his hellhole.

>> No.38555599

Their thoughts on NEETs

https://youtu.be/GFMKew0y_Ik

>> No.38555728

>>38555547
Do you feel the same way about this foreigner?

https://youtu.be/yzA_Qw_SfTs

>> No.38555758

>>38555346
>everything has to be a "how it's made" documentary
really?

>> No.38555807

>>38555728
I don't. This guy at least worked hard to aquire and sharpen his skills from the Japanese mentor, so much so that the Japanese people actually came to enjoy his cooking. While that old nigger was a refugee with no skills and no right to be in Japan whatsoever.

>> No.38555868

>>38555807
Imagine sitting in your room being angry about some random immigrant guy in a country you've never even been to

>> No.38555901

>>38555868
Never said I was angry. The nog simply wanted to have success handed to him on the silver platter without putting in any of the meaningful work. In my opinion that is a pretty shitty behavior. No sure why you got so defensive about it.

>> No.38556003

>>38555901
>Never said I was angry
didn't need to. Your seething is apparent.

>> No.38556030 [DELETED] 

>>38556003
Nice argument. You must be black yourself and equally as lazy and inept as that shitter. My condolences.

>> No.38556035

>>38555807
It's fine for you to dislike the dude but calling him a "nigger" is uncalled for

>> No.38556059

>>38556035
I can call him what I want and there's literally nothing you could do about it.

>> No.38556060

>>38556030
>Nice argument
Facts are not arguments dummy. And I'm talking about your own emotions so you know better than me.

>> No.38556140

>>38556059
>there's literally nothing you could do about it.
Sure. That doesn't change the fact that most people think you're annoying when you act like this, and you only have yourself to blame for being lonely

>> No.38556185

>>38556140
>most people
Who? You and your one retard friend in this thread? That's funny. Also, maybe you should stop projecting so much. I'll give you a last (You) out of pity though, enjoy it.

>> No.38556300

>>38531917
>discuss why NHK they misrepresents their own country
fix your english first retard

>> No.38556324

>>38540970
>as if that's what your average Japanese works with
Thats an assumption you're making on your own, no normal person would come to this conclusion

>> No.38556767

>>38556185
>Who?
You know better than me. How many people in your life are impressed when you talk like this?

>> No.38556816

>>38531583
>NHK world is less normalfag than half the threads on /jp/ which are about pop music or porn
Japanese idols and gravure are only liked (or even known, really) by otaku in the west, while NHK World is basically a propaganda channel for Westerners so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

>> No.38556900

>>38556300
>/jp/ で
馬鹿外人

>> No.38557122

>>38556816
imagine being such a fucking weaboo that you think asian porn is your secret acquired taste only for elite otaku's like yourself

>> No.38558231

>>38531917
>If you ask random people about japan they bring up tentacle porn and "worlds highest suicide rate"
idk my father is the epitome of a normal fag. he likes football, cars, action movies and carpentry. and he has a collection of katanas because he thinks they're cool and he appreciates the craftsmanship.
you know, japanese steel folded a thousand times etc etc

>> No.38558650

>>38558231
>katanas because he thinks they're cool and he appreciates the craftsmanship.
>you know, japanese steel folded a thousand times etc etc
yes? that is extremely normalfag. Where I live they even print random japanese characters chinese/italian/whatever knives purely out of marketing

>> No.38563619
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>>38529286
NHK is run by old farts bamboozled by Shinzo Abe's imperialistic rethoric which he uses to fool insecure idiots to gain support in the parliament.

Abe's narrative is every problem of Japan is caused by gaijins enslaving the once barbaric and self-righteous rapist Nippon empire.

It is evident when they didn't include AKB48 in the yearly Kouhaku, simply because they are the most international amongst the Jpop groups. For those who don't know, there's a yearly day long special broadcast in NHK where the most prominent artists and idol groups perform. But for the past two years, they've been excluding AKB48, when AKB48 is one of the most popular groups in Japan. It's pretty obvious they want to subconsciously force the narrative to the Japanese public that any who are "international" should be ostracized.

AND YET THEY PROMOTE JAPAN TOURISM

Not only are NHK old fart admin and Shinzo Abe's admin hypocrites and stupid, they really think they can become "generals of old", that is what they fantasize, absolute power, but the Japanese people are not stupid and buying their scam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKyOA3E-nqI

>> No.38563637

>>38563619
Another example of this "every problem of Japan is caused by gaijins enslaving the once barbaric and self-righteous rapist Nippon empire" mental illness syndrome is they closed off Oricon charts to international orders because "kPOp tOo StRong hAHa diS is deAtH oF kpOp noW"

>> No.38563665

>>38533985
japan won, so no

>> No.38564189

>>38529286
if you think this is bad wait until you actually get there and watch nip tv programming

>> No.38564201

>>38555242
lol whaddafug man

>> No.38567741

>>38535043
>all thos baka gaijing ar soo stoopid unlike me cuz i kno le ebin jap culchure
What an irredeemable fucking loser...

>> No.38567983

>>38563619
>Every problem of JapAn is caused by gaijin
Is this why he seeks allies anywhere he can and has the JSDF cooperate with the US military even more?

>> No.38568224

>>38557122
Gravure is objectively less mainstream than NHK World and their tourist oriented programming.
How many people in your social circle even know about gravure models? And how many know about ninjas, samurai and sushi? Fucking off-board retard, kill yourself.

>> No.38570548

>>38555242
well if I was cycling through downtown tokyo home of 62 billion people or whatever I would also not do it during rush hours, of course they'd film and plan it for like 4 or 5 AM rather than 4 or 5 PM, otherwise they love showing like sped up footage of shibuya crossing, your one very specific example is about a cycling program

and what's the deal with cell phones

>> No.38571903

>>38568224
>it's not just porn it's MY PORN!!!!
bruh, how many people do you think actually know about the movie title or actresses in a tentacle rape porno?

>> No.38571929

>Why does something that exists primarily to lure in your tourist dollars show you primarily touristy shit?

Do you really have to ask this question?

>> No.38571955

>>38570548
It's dark at 4am you fucking retard, and STILL more people.
They edit and curate the show to give a false impression of japan, and you fell for it. Get over it.

>> No.38571992

>>38529286
you forgot the poki

>> No.38572112

>>38563619
easy there and here i was starting to think that traditional idol groups are dying

>> No.38572144

>>38555758
Yes. If they can stuff in as many industrial secrets as possible, even better.

>> No.38572158

>>38571903
>how many people do you think actually know about the movie title or actresses in a tentacle rape porno?
So you don't even know what "gravure" means. I don't know what I expected from a /v/tard. Tentacle rape porno is not, and will never be mainstream and/or considered acceptable by normalfag standards by the way. Go ask your dad whether he likes it if you don't believe me.

>> No.38572802

>>38572158
>this much fucking american reading comprehension in one post
baka. I'll try to dumb it down just for you:
1. Tentacle rape is mainstream in the same way that texas chainsaw massacre is mainstream. Even if you think it's disgusting and you've never watched it, you know about it.
2. If you go on all the biggest western porn sites, there's thousands of videos of gravure models. They might be called "Hot asian bitch in bathtub", but that doesn't change that it's a very popular genre that millions watch. It's not your special hipster otaku-only porn just because you recognize the actress and know her favorite color.

>> No.38573175

@38572802
>doesn't know what normalfag even means
>apparently doesn't know what mainstream even means either
4/10 made me reply

>> No.38573363

>>38563619
cope harder chink

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38573408

>>38556035
>It's fine for you to dislike the dude but calling him a "nigger" is uncalled for

>> No.38573617

>>38531583
>NHK world is less normalfag
Holy shit the kid's serious!

>> No.38573688

>>38556816
>Japanese idols and gravure are only liked (or even known, really) by otaku in the west
Is this a bait? They don't even sell these shit in the west, how do you think they make their money?

>> No.38573747

>>38573688
>They don't even sell these shit in the west
That's why it's only known by otaku. In Japan it's a bit more mainstream.

>> No.38573759

>>38573747
Ah, my bad. I thought you meant they are only liked by western otaku and Japanese didn't care about them.

>> No.38573765

>>38573747
>>38573688
Actually, upon rereading my post I can see why someone would be confused. Let me rephrase that:
>In the west, J-idols and gravure are only liked (or even known, really) by otaku.

>> No.38575494 [DELETED] 

Is there any archive of NHK programs? When uploaded to youtube, most of them get copyright-claimed within a year.

>> No.38575606
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Is there any complete archive of older NHK World programs? When uploaded to youtube, most of them get copyright-claimed within a year.

>> No.38584290

>>38531583
I remember when these threads weren't allowed here.

>> No.38584554

>>38571955
yeah bro they asked james cameron to edit pedestrians out of 5AM shibuya crossing, because we all know that shibuya isn't a popular pedestrian spot, they have to maintain that image of shibuya and tokyo at large being a small town village

>> No.38586886

>>38584554
>retarded zoomers now think "editing" = CGI
please help us

>> No.38594659

Because they're not involved in the active genocide of their people like the ABC and the BBC

>> No.38601781

>>38531583
Just don't watch a channel that you cannot change and that you dislike.

>> No.38601906

>>38573175
anon thats not an argument or anything other than ego damage control

also man, this thread proves that /jp/ isn't a good board, haven't been to /v/ in much time but it seems completely dishonest to even pretend chasing people away from here would raise the place's quality

>> No.38602237

>>38575606
probably some torrent tracker

>> No.38610524

NHK is based
they show sumo

>> No.38613037

>>38563619
This point is redundant when they have other popular idol groups on too. Plus AKB48s popularity has been declining recently. BiSH probably had a better chance of breaking out in the west than the other 46/48 groups anyway and they had them on. Jihen, Aimyon, fujii kaze,and others who are known by international audiences thanks to anime etc were on too, don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.38613053

>>38529286
Better this than people thinking everything's going to be futuristic because Japan when they visit.

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