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>New? Start here
https://rentry.org/9rxt9
https://pastebin.com/FDv2ATAa

>Mods
https://rentry.org/6xmf9
https://pastebin.com/5ja03yuf

>Elona (1.16/1.22)
http://ylvania.org/en/elona

>Elona Plus (2.10) and Custom GX (2.10.1.1)
http://wanwanplus.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-38.html
https://github.com/Ruin0x11/ElonaPlusCustom-GX

>Elona Mobile
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ltgames.elona
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/elona/id1512936641

Errors? Set the compatibility of the .exe to Windows 7.
Save sprites in GIMP as 24-bit BMP with "do not write color space" checked.

Previous floor >>38180361

>> No.38474789
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38474789

first for romias

>> No.38474916
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38474916

should i play Elona again?

>> No.38475008

>>38474916
Yes. It is time.

>> No.38475013

>>38474916
damn, and I thought I got unlucky when the hand killed my escort client. and sure you should, but make sure you use 2.08 and not 2.09 or 2.10. 2.09 is broken and crashes very often, and 2.10 made melee and spells cost stamina.

>> No.38475768

>>38475013
the stamina cost is negligible, it's the people panicking at the changelog and refusing to update complaining about it

>> No.38476545

>>38475768
I tried it out and it's actually even worse than people here are making it out to be. Luckily I backed up my save file, so I can stay with 2.08.

>> No.38476676

>>38476545
hasn't been a problem for me
granted I use spacts a lot so I already knew about stamina management

>> No.38476744

I hear that you either need to play with the piss meter and keep it full or keep regeneration up constantly.

>> No.38476883

>>38476744
There's no reason to play without thirst nowadays, yes

>> No.38476923

>>38476883
Nice try, Ano.

>> No.38476928

>>38476923
am I wrong?

>> No.38477047

>>38476928
Yes. Some players play variants such as CG and CGX because they prefer to not interact with an unnecessary feature which did not exist in earlier versions back when Plus was more about adding optional content and features. You don't have to agree with reasons like this, but it is player preference.

>> No.38477099

>>38477047
omake master race

>> No.38477125

>>38477099
Nice try toriten.

>> No.38477177

>>38477047
Well, when a change is made to the game, further developments going forward are going to be built off that change.
Hydration changed the pacing of stamina management, and the recent changes to stamina naturally follow on from that. Someone who patches hydration out from their game because something something muh piss meme is obviously going to have trouble when the game from that point on is expecting it to be a thing and is designed around it.

And I mean, let's not pretend the old stamina mechanics were some sacred perfected system, they were awful, to the point that people playing CGX now without hydration are still complaining about having no stamina, even before 2.10.

>> No.38477215

>>38477177
Retarded fetish shit tacked onto the game can be patched out. Retarded shit tacked onto the retarded fetish shit can also be patched out.

>> No.38477288

>>38477215
it's literally a fucking meme
maybe if you stopped trying to fabricate some moral panic in fucking elona and insisting that every new system is built specifically to further nefarious sexual ends, you'd actually be able to enjoy the game and wouldn't have to constantly beg the CGX dev for new patches

is hunger a vomit system
is noa a fucked up vomit fetishist who just added it into the game to create pointless unnecessary tedium and fuck with players so he could get off

>> No.38477321

>>38477177
I agree with you about the difficulties it creates trying to maintain balance with the feature kept out while Plus is going to continue being balanced around it existing. That won't change the opinions of players that don't like the feature, though, and it also didn't stop CG from going that route. I'd say it makes sense or players not using it to have to deal with the stamina system being a bit harsh, but new changes to it like in 2.10 is going to be a kick in the nuts.

>> No.38477436

>>38477321
The problem is that hate for the hydration system is a meme that departed from reality a long time ago. Anyone new who comes to the general and wants to get into the game is going to be told to install CGX and to turn hydration off, because it's a piss fetish system or whatever, and naturally that's what they'll do, even if they have no idea what it actually is, or that major systems in the game are expecting stamina mechanics significantly different to the ones they've given themselves.

the piss meme was always just a way to focus general dislike towards ano, thirst was definitely a janky and broken system when it was first implemented, but that was several fucking years ago, and the current hate for it has literally nothing to do with how it works in the game now.

>> No.38477445

By the way, if anybody is compiling CGX themselves and wants to undo the stamina change, searching for cdata(CDATA_SP, cc) in the diff from commit 0eabfd8dc7fa6d37530d93d9abfd14c5e3989a90 appears to bring up a bunch of relevant changes.

>> No.38477464

>>38477445
why not just remove stamina altogether, anon?
do you think the vanilla stamina mechanics are good and need to be preserved?

>> No.38477517

>>38477464
>do you think the vanilla stamina mechanics are good and need to be preserved?
Good? Yes. I've never had an issue with them in 1.16 or early versions of Plus. Need to be preserved? No, not really.
Personally I'm just not interested in dealing with a second hunger meter.

>> No.38477563

>>38477436
I think you have a good point with new players. If turning off thirst also disabled the stamina change it wouldn't be an issue, though. I don't expect for CGX anon to maintain a seperate balance to keep such an option there, but I'm sure many of us would appreciate it, and lets us recommend newer players to at least play a version of Plus a bit closer to the original experience.

>> No.38477872

>>38477099
One day I will, if only so I can make my own Chaos-type meteor spell and name it Chaos Dunk.

>> No.38477907

>>38477872
SEST apparently just got revived, so it might be a good time to try it out. Though I don't think they have an English translator since Foobar left.

>> No.38478060

Am I the only one who uses Liquid Manipulation with cursed piss and make entire rooms sick?

>> No.38478225

>>38478060
Maybe I should turn piss back on.

>> No.38479089

you WILL take Wetting! pill.
and you WILL like it.

>> No.38479738

>>38479089
Open-source software and general-purpose computing, bitch. You can't make anyone do anything.

>> No.38479795

>>38478225
.you are now killing bells and quicklings with cursed piss tsuanmis

>> No.38483235

I have to remind you all that omake has literal vore in it, and it's much more prominent, easy to access and fetishy than hydration in +.

>> No.38484697

>>38483235
Is it mandatory?

>> No.38484981

how

>> No.38485858

>>38484697
It's only part of the game if you take the feat for it.

>> No.38488450 [DELETED] 

wtf okayu has a ku-100

>> No.38490875

>>38483235
>Enemy has to be under 10% hp to use it
>When everything dies in one hit
ehhhhh

>> No.38491895

>>38483235
It's a spact you have to buy, not a universal mechanic.
Honestly I don't care about hydration, you should be chugging potions anyways but having the player be constantly pissing their pants crosses a line for me.

>> No.38491922

>>38491895
wetting is just a weird translation, bear in mind that the opposite status when you're somewhat thirsty is called drying

actual incontinence is a thing if you keep consuming fluids well over max hydration and it's entirely different

>> No.38492347

>>38491922
Yeah and also doesn't the Magaqua make you have the Wetting status? That's not pee.

>> No.38496570

Can I at least drink someone else's pee

>> No.38497861

>おしっこ我慢する様子や漏らすのを見るのって、興奮する!!!
-Ano (actual quote)

>> No.38498567

>>38497861
>Watching them hold their pee or pee their pants is so exciting!!!!
From Deepl.

>> No.38500388

dont watch kanata

>> No.38500955

i swear to god i read somewhere you can go +15 in this game
how do i do that? or am i thinking of a different game

>> No.38501146

>>38500955
IIRC in Plus you can upgrade weapons to 10 by just using scrolls and blacksmiths and then you use stardust to get them up to 15.

>> No.38501288

>>38501146
>then you use stardust
ah this is what i was missing thanks

>> No.38502276

How can i raise my pet's attraction? I want to marry my pet.

>> No.38502325

>>38502276
let it kill things in puppy dungeon

>> No.38502327

>>38502276
Let your pet kill things but don't let it die.

>> No.38502807

>>38502325
>>38502327
Thank anons.

>> No.38504056

'Let's Ragnarok!'

>> No.38505582

I can't wait to get home and see how everyone died today.

>> No.38512685

I died from moving my furniture around in my new palace.

>> No.38512958

>>38512685
it happens to the best of us

>> No.38515277

>>38505582
Just died from vomiting. I think a pumpkin thrown a cursed alcohol or just a normal one rapidly. Keep vomiting to the point of starving to death.

>> No.38518820

>>38498567
>>38497861
In reference to...? Sheesh.

>> No.38521504

Are immune bits important? Should I wear equip that boost PV like Rubynus instead?

>> No.38522504

>>38518820
Somebody asked him why he implemented the thirst system, and he gave that sarcastic reply. Its still funny in context though because the poster never mentioned piss.

>> No.38522585

>>38521504
I think if you have enough of a resistance it makes you immune to a related status condition, but I'm not sure what the threshold is. I think resistances are more important than DV/PV, anyway, although the +Life from rubynus is useful in some cases.

>> No.38525792

>>38521504
>Are immune bits important?
definitely especially immune to paralysis
you dont want to die from doing nothing in 50 turns due to paralysis spam

>> No.38525874

Haven't played since Elona+ Custom died. Is there a suitable replacement so I can live out the Elona+ Custom G LGTH(IJFE life again?

>> No.38525875 [DELETED] 

>tfw fbk is the only one playing different games

>> No.38525889

>>38525874
>Haven't played since Elona+ Custom died
how about the updated GX?

>> No.38526009

>>38525889
Sounds new to me so I assume it's good enough. I'll give it a look, thanks anon.

>> No.38526028

>>38526009
Get 2.08, it's the last one that doesn't break the game. Unless you're going to do a necromancer run, then you should pick an even earlier one.

>> No.38530683

>>38526028
I must've missed it, what happened to necromancy recently?

>> No.38531581

>>38530683
Necro fusion doesn't work in 2.80, if you try to fuse 2 spooks it just brings up an empty menu.

>> No.38531613

>>38497861
I hope this idiot gets his head blown up with a microwave gun.

>> No.38532137

I'm playing Custom-G 1.9.4 after dropping this game for a long time. Am I missing out on anything significant compared to just playing the latest Elona+?

>> No.38533809

>>38504056
I wish we can use ragnarok to our advantage

>> No.38534282

>>38532137
The final boss was added in 2.0

>> No.38536544

Should I evolve my pet in act 1? I hear the speed boost is important.

>> No.38537895
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38537895

>>38473712
I was fishing at my house when a Ninja appeared.
She isn't hostile & if I attack her the Defender rezzes her.
She doesn't show up as a stayer in the NPC list, and theres only two dialog options.

>> No.38538028

>>38533809
In vanilla you can use it to farm chests
and medals from dragon drops

>> No.38538336

>>38537895
You fished her up. You need to take responsibility aka capture and breed her.

>> No.38539797

>>38538336
フキイン ベースド

>> No.38540675

>>38536544
The speed boost will help more in act 1 then later when you will have other options for increasing their speed.

>> No.38540732

>>38540675
Thank for the tip, anon. I will evolve my fire dragon child now.

>> No.38540752

>>38539797
>フキイン ベースド
Deepl: Fukiin Based

>> No.38541020

>>38536544
There are no downsides to doing so, raising speed with AP depends entirely on INI rather than on current speed.

>> No.38541097

is there an easier way to get potions of descent in elona gx

>> No.38541512

>>38541097
Make a character in 1.16, farm a bunch of potions in a zombie ranch, then bring the character or seed file over to +CGX.

>> No.38542420

>>38540752
>Deepl-ing katakana

>> No.38542714

>>38541512
https://github.com/Ruin0x11/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/blob/541ffdb019be5314d41c4edda2852d7e9f7f9038/2.05-custom-gx/item.hsp#L1645

>> No.38554408

>>38532137
Unless you're in Act 4 or you're a huge fan of Battle B-Daman, not particularly.

>> No.38564640

>>38542420
it's a free country

>> No.38571775

>>38554408
The wiki only has basic info about potiomans. I'd like to know whether they're ranged weapons or if they're more like those rocket launcher tool items, and how their damage stacks up.

>> No.38572807

>>38564640
How can it be a free country when you are forced to pay adventurers tax every month?

>> No.38577382

Hey guys, running elona+ custom gx 2.08. How do i marry my pet?

In custom gx it seems there is no option to propose marriage, only "confess feelings", which I already did.

>> No.38577404

>>38577382
Custom-G disables ano's polyamory shit by default

>> No.38577439

>>38577382
It's the last option in "confess feelings".

>> No.38577735

>>38577404
elaborate
>>38577439
thanks pardner. Will I be able to confess feelings again eventually? I think I chose the top option, and she responded well.

>> No.38577763

>>38577735
It becomes available when the day changes.

>> No.38579546

>>38577404
no it doesn't lol

>> No.38580832

How come you guys aren’t on /vg/?

>> No.38580880

Switched to linux recently and trying to get this game working on it. I followed the 2 guides on the wiki and mostly have it working but there's a couple issues I'm having.

1. numpad movement doesn't seem to be working
2. the log is kind of cut off/has some garbage in it, see pic. Text seems kinda misaligned in general?

Also the audio rips a fat crunch sound when I start the game, which is kind of annoying but it's fine after that.

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>>38580880
Whoops, pic didn't go through.

>> No.38581280

>>38580832
why are you guys still on /vg/?

>> No.38581540

>>38580880
>>38580896
Fixed the numpad thing, there were spaces in my config file that shouldn't have been there for some reason. Still having alignment issues with the japanese text though.

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38582145

>Put a pet in the ranch
>it somehow reproduces offsprings,while alone
What?

>> No.38582621

>>38571775
They're [T]ools you use from your inventory. As for the damage, it can be respectable if you use the cf potioman type, upgrade it with dual shooting, and feed it enough dyes to get it to +4, so that it can hit as hard as it can once fired.

The thing about potiomen is that once they're loaded up with ammo and maxed enchant value they cost you nothing to fire. They don't need MP or stamina, and reloading them with potions and caps can and should be done out of combat. They also weigh only 0.6 stone each so you can carry a lot of them with you at once.

Potiomen are generally best used as alpha strike weapons to burst down dangerous boss enemies such as Big Daddies (preferably with the help of Fury status) and the main quest nemeses.

>>38582145
You left it alone in a place where any degenerate could wander in and have their way with the pet, what did you expect?

>> No.38583431

Was the Violent Garden wide skill nerfed at some point?

>> No.38583740
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38583740

>>38580880
>>38580896
>>38581540
Also fixed the audio issues by setting sound=alsa in winetricks and fixed the text alignment shit by installing some more japanese fonts (otf-ipafont and ttf-hanazono).

>> No.38585835

>>38473712
Where can I find good PCCs?

>> No.38585918

>>38583431
yes

>> No.38587951

>>38585835
https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/
This site has a shitton of PCC and NPC sprites, but I must warn you that it is a pain in the ass to browse. Also PCC sprites will either be made with a weird pixel duplication pattern to work around a vanilla rendering issue, or be made to be displayed natively on a variant like Plus or Omake.

>> No.38591027

Hey fellas, how do I use my deed of dungeon?

I wished for it from a fountain, and I cannot use it on the overworld map like a deed of ranch or house.

>> No.38591265

>>38591027
>deed of dungeon
nevermind, I'm an idiot. Had to read it, not use it.

>> No.38591983

What happened to the elona reverse engineering projects?
They just keep abandoning everything and switching languages every half a year?

Also is elona mobile any good or is it just a cash in?

>> No.38592528

>>38591983
>Also is elona mobile any good or is it just a cash in?
try it yourself, its free and you know why what happens to "free" games

ano needs to open source this shit or just continue openefia

>> No.38592928

>>38591983
opennefia is still a thing and being developed, it's being done by the same anon working on CGX who also has several other projects going on, so it's somewhat slow.

>>38592528
ano likes working alone I think

>> No.38598570

>>38583740
>sound in wine
Man this is one of the issues I'm having with elona. Let me see if your fix helps, Elona ran fine for me otherwise.

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38598855

>>38598570
I messed around with it some more today and this is my current method to get it working as good as possible, both with plus and oomsest:

>when you extract the game, make sure you use the shift-jis mode in unzip to avoid messed up japanese filenames
>both 32bit and 64bit wine prefixes seem to be fine for elona
>use winetricks to install dinput, quartz, directmusic, gmdls
>if you get shitty sound crackling (either earrape when you first open the game or the music getting choppy after its been playing for a while) then use winetricks sound=alsa

I had a few prefixes when I was experimenting where the audio was still crackly after all this. I don't know why. But I have both a 32bit and 64bit prefix that are fine now. You might still have some audio delay. Also if you care about playing in japanese then you'll want to install fonts like otf-ipafont and ttf-hanazono to fix alignment issues and you gotta run the game with LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 after the prefix part of the command and before the wine part of the command.

Then today I was screwing around trying to get the MP3 music mods working, because I have a lot of nostalgia for the official one. No dice, but I did find something:

>use winecfg in your prefix, go into libraries and change "dsound" to "builtin"

On a fresh prefix, I could at least use foobar to play the MP3s. But once I installed the winetricks stuff needed to get the game audio itself working, that'd break foobar and it wouldn't be able to play the MP3s anymore. This tweak seems to fix that, though I still can't get the game itself to play the MP3s for some reason. Also, I don't know if it's also thanks to this tweak or just something else I changed without realizing, but after changing dsound to builtin, I no longer had the audio delay on sound effects (ie. menu sounds) that I did before I changed it. It was pretty bad before that, like at least half a second delay.

Anyway, I hope this helps somebody, and if anybody knows how to get the game playing custom MP3s on loonix, then let me know. I'm out of things to try and ready to just assume it doesn't work atm and just listen to music through something else while I play if I'm sick of the midis.

>> No.38600533

>>38592528
Ano will never open source Plus even if he could because he hates the idea of people changing his perfect game balance.
However, I could maybe see Noa changing his mind and letting vanilla Elona go open source someday, though I think he would much rather see a rewrite like OpenNefia reach completion.

>> No.38601241

>>38600533
How do we convince Noa's glowie handlers to change his mind?

>> No.38601593

Any tricks to getting enemy HP down low enough without killing them so I can eat them in oomSEST?

>> No.38604704

I just started 2.10+ after a long break from elona and what the fuck happened to the game's balance and exp rates?
I casually got 80+ in every skill and level 50 before even remembering to kill vesda, now I'm in southern tyris vaporizing stuff with 4000 damage spells after 2 days of playing
I mean, both exp rates and magic needed a buff since forever, but this is ridiculous

>> No.38604750

>>38604704
Ano tripled them.

>> No.38605546

>>38601241
Didn't he already say he'd be fine with the source code being public?

>> No.38605776

>>38605546
He has given permission for some projects which are rewrites to be open source, but I don't think he has said that he is fine with the original source code being open sourced. Unless we count a post on the wiki which is not confirmed to be him.

>>38604704
I'd use the CGX in-game tweak menu to revert experience rates back to 1.90 levels.

>> No.38610815

>open door
>it's a room full of neutral mercenaries
>with an alien in the middle
This feels scripted...

>> No.38612546

>>38610815
One of the mercenaries may have become impregnated with an alien baby and or may have already killed the enemy responsible off screen, before the revealing of that area.

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38613169

is this a human? I don't know much about this game's social aspects

>> No.38613541

>>38613169
That's just the death report of others players since the game has some quasi-online features.
Guess this means the Elonachat is finally back online.

>> No.38614439

>>38605776
>I don't think he has said that he is fine with the original source code being open sourced. Unless we count a post on the wiki which is not confirmed to be him.
Has anybody ever asked him?

>> No.38616967

>>38605776
>I'd use the CGX in-game tweak menu to revert experience rates back to 1.90 levels.

why though, does it have advantages over the 2.x versions? the grinding is really kinda repetitive after a certain point

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You chose him right?

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>>38617502
I always mooch off of big sis Yacatect when I make a new character so I can get my allowance of platinum coins.

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38618231

>>38617502

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38618278

>>38618231
That's just the previous ehekatl, current ehekatl is 100% a woman

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38618298

>>38618231
>>38618278
Yeah, since the names of gods are merely placeholder titles that any candidate for the position just assumes.

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what do i even do with these

>> No.38622312

>>38616967
Its up to your preference how fast you want the game to go. 1.16 is the most popular version of Elona in Japan, but it probably takes ten times longer to beat than it takes to get through act 1 in Plus 2.x. Personally I think Plus 1.90 had a pretty good balance given the extra content added by Plus.

>> No.38622342

>>38614439
I don't know, but probably, maybe not lately though.

>> No.38623161

>>38621757
How many IRL hours are in this save?

>> No.38626796

What is a kemuridama used for?

>> No.38628013

>>38621757
You put them in

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38629437

I cleared all 3 story dungeons but I somehow missed a stone. Anyone know which one?

>> No.38629459

>>38629437
nvm im retarded that was dragons nest not tower of fire

>> No.38632395

>>38623161
~200

>> No.38632407

>>38626796
its a smoke bomb anon
its pretty great early game to stop casters and ranged attacks from targeting you when you get surrounded

>> No.38636676

>>38632407
Still useful late game since it doesn't require stamina to use.

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38640418

Is there any point to live outside North Tyris?

>> No.38641332

>>38640418
is this chick in act 3?

>> No.38641692

>>38640418
The main point of your house's location is that you can Return to it. Put it someplace you want to visit frequently but can't reach easily from another Return location.

>> No.38646838

>>38641332
As far as I known she only is mentioned in the イルヴァ資料館 which was a collection of Elona lore curated by Noa and volunteers.

>> No.38652819

elin news wen

>> No.38652855

>>38652819
when the government stops zapping him with their radio wave gun

>> No.38654627

>it's a "one of your hired adventurers eats an alien corpse without you noticing" episode
man I hate reruns

>> No.38656375

>>38654627
Whip them harder

>> No.38662242

>>38654627
The worse is when I was drinking and didn't notice I was shitting out ayyleon babies in town.
Worse then that was some npc had some sort of artifsct that summoned monsters and keep doing that all over town.

>> No.38665122

>>38662242
Welcome to Vernis

>> No.38666205

>>38473712
Oldfag who haven't played in a while here, so how are you supposed to get good gear in early game now that you can't craft living spears?

>> No.38666329

>>38666205
Trading the high rank adventurers for their stuff is still an option.

>> No.38666347

why has no one revived elona chat?

>> No.38666382

>>38666347
The cgx version seems to be working fine

>> No.38666391

>>38666329
What's a good item to trade with them? scroll of oracles?
>>38666347
Elochat is up though, the real question is will moongates work again?

>> No.38666407

>>38666391
>scroll of oracle
>scroll of name
>scroll of change material
>deed of heirship
>herbs (if desperate)
>enchanted engagement jewelry
>stacks of somewhat valuable items like rods
>treasure maps

>> No.38666447

>>38666407
>deed of heirship
Didn't know it's that valuable, time to go on a trading spree

>> No.38666483

>>38666447
If you e(x)amine an item and it's estimated to sell for 2-4k then it's probably a good item to swap with adventurers.

>> No.38667051

Does anyone know where the fine for genes are located? I made a bunch of genes back when I was a n00b, and I want to delete them to reduce clutter for when I actually want to start again

>> No.38667083

>>38667051
file, not fine
I'm retarded

>> No.38667348

>>38667051
The files are inside your sav_(character) folder I think.

>> No.38667709
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38667709

i wanna get back into it. i really do. i've been looking for the perfect autists game that i can autism out on for 100s of hours, and Elona is definitely it.
however, the autism is just a little /too/ much. even when i was actively playing and super into it like 5+ years ago now, i still felt like a total noob with respect to a lot of game mechanics. very obscure game mechanics, that if you miss out on, gimp your character significantly.
is there like a tl;dr pastebin with a bunch of newbie hints/tips/& tricks for returning players? stuff like what skills to spend plat coins on to learn first, items to look out for, how to itemize, what to pick up and what is floor trash?
ありがとう in advance, my 友達s. xdd

>> No.38667876

>>38667709
You playing + or OO?

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38668016

>>38667876
well, according to my old screenshots, Elona+ with some sort of fix? i probably want to stick with + since that's what im familiar with, and i would rather not re-learn any fundamental gameplay changes from OO.
what patch do i use with +? just the standard pastebin recommended one? apparently the latest version is gayed with bugs and pissing fetishes? whatt??? 何╮(╯▽╰)╭ 助けて~!

>> No.38668083

>>38667709
Traveling is the skill that i think is the most important. I always buy a yerles machine infantry and give him a gun.They and the little girl protect me from the start and help me clear low level hunting quest to get more platinum coins. After you can kill Rogue Boss, you should sell cargo to train other skills and get cash until you can craft wood furniture with pot of fusion.

>> No.38668710

>>38668016
The pastebin is pretty out of date, though 1.9 is a solid version if you don't mind the final boss not being implemented yet.
If you want a more recent version in order to be able to beat the game then you probably want to get Custom GX and then use the in-game options to disable recent balance changes like pissing and the exp buffs. 2.10 is the latest but has a new controversial stamina change which fucks up balance unless you have pissing enabled, so some anons are playing on 2.08.

>> No.38668728

>>38666391
I don't think anybody is ever going to revive mooongates due to stability and security issues.

>> No.38670122
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38670122

I made a tone file for my wife, Alchemist <Naplus>
https://pastebin.com/qNu8Lffz
Please give comments and suggestions

>> No.38670217

>>38670122
>%txtNight,EN //Displays when Sleep Sharing happens
>{nptc} yawns.
No mention of harvesting human genes here?

>> No.38670314

>>38670217
Oh, good idea, I forgot about that

>> No.38670504

>>38670217
New version, use this link from now on
My wife, Alchemist <Naplus>, is cute
https://pastebin.com/jzLh2VKi
Unfortunately I can't find a way to delete a pastebin by a guest rip

>> No.38679396

So uh how are you supposed to change your riding PCC?

>> No.38680099

Im new to Elona, and im trying to figure out what the random green text on the bottom is and why everyone keeps calling me pitiful. Any help?

>> No.38680754

>>38680099
That's flavor text, and it's another character in that town that's pitiful.

>> No.38680775

>>38680754
Alright thanks. A bit of a confusing game for beginners but its fun

>> No.38683689

>>38680099
Reminder to play the piano at the bar for easy money

>> No.38685750

>>38679396
You have to change it while riding.

>> No.38695635
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38695635

Is ALPing a god worth it?

>> No.38695919

>>38695635
Only of you think their abilities will be useful, since their stats and skills will go down hard upon recruiting and unless you go to the Oblivion Palace it'll still be a bitch gaining AP.

>> No.38695944

>>38695919
What's at the oblivion palace?

>> No.38696227

>>38695944
An NPC that brings your or your pet's levels and stats (including speed) down and recalculates INI based on those new values. The lowest they can go is 50 speed, 20 for all other stats, and level 10.

>> No.38697093

Anyone got the fairy smoking picture with the "Fairy is now 20% addicted to nicotine" message over it?

>> No.38697701

>finally made it to level 30 of Rhemido
Holy shit anons, I have been playing this game for years on and off and I'm finally here. I'm sure everything will go fine and I'll win haha.

>> No.38698506

>>38697701
How much decapitation are you packing?

>> No.38699720

Screwed around with potiomen some more, here are my findings.

- Potiomen are best used to either burst down a boss quickly, which the cf type is best at due to how they work, or to eliminate dangerous mobs before they can do much damage relatively cheaply.

- The only potiomen types worth using are super and cf. The ordinary shots of super do the most damage of all potiomen types, while cf potiomen are for loading to +4 with dyes and alpha striking bosses, preferably with Fury status applied. Use supers for mobs you do not want to screw around with like Xeren Satellite Units, quicklings, bomb rocks, and the like. This works because the dangerous mobs in Elona tend not to be that durable to begin with but have things like jacked Speed and evasion, or teleport away and heal themselves, or toss out status effects and debuffs that make it hard to attack them normally.

- Crush potiomen proc grenade when fired with one round left. Not only does this not scale well lategame due to resistances but you have to waste three shots beforehand if you want the grenade ready. Don't bother.

- Battle potiomen buff your defense when used until your next turn. Sounds nicer than it really is, because trying to tank something like an executioner is the last thing you should be doing.

- You want to upgrade cfs with dual shot, always, so their single attack at +4 hits as hard as it can. Supers you have a bit more leeway in that you have the option for dimming + decap, 10% more damage, or confusion + stamina damage. The latter tends to be the safest since confusion is good at messing with enemy actions, especially spellcasters.

>> No.38699880

I'm trying to start anew by creating a gene, but whenever I try to create a gene my pet just blushes. No gene file is appearing for some reason...

>> No.38700491

>>38617502
yes because I'm a spacts person and refuse to learn the casting skill so his stamina regen bonus is invaluable

>> No.38702516

>>38699720
Did you ever try out the precision upgrade? I'm pretty sure that "always do max damage" is much better on average than "do 10% more damage", and ought to compare favorably to "do 80% more damage but use twice as much ammo".

>> No.38702988

>>38473712
oh god I'm crying with laughter

>> No.38703792

>>38698506
None. Apparently you are supposed to go get a mcguffin so now that floor is packed with not only the aids tree but now highlevel monsters.
JUST

>> No.38705312

>>38473712
So, with retarded pissing and stamina mechanics ruining Elona+ and ECG, which variant should I move to? Omake or Oomsest?

>> No.38705385

>>38705312
they're all dead
noa needs to come back and save us with his elona remake

>> No.38705399

>>38705385
noa's too busy getting gang stalked by the CIA

>> No.38705420

>>38705399
imagine the wonders his alleged schizophrenia would do for creating the most unique games

>> No.38705432

>>38705385
Okay but until then which one will be the least retarded?

>> No.38705439

>>38705432
oomSESTep_NC but don't expect a new release anytime

>> No.38707962

>>38705432
+ has piss, (you can turn it off with gx)
oomSESTep_NC(latest OO) has vore.

>> No.38709432

Elin demo fuckin wen

>> No.38709666

>>38702516
On further testing, the always max damage upgrade will outdamage the 10% bonus upgrade the great majority of the time, so I stand corrected, the max damage upgrade is always the best for super potiomen.

The +80% damage but uses two caps upgrade, however, WILL almost always outdamage the max damage upgrade. Hence you want them to hit as hard as possible to begin with - a cf potioman can have its enhance value go up to +4 instead of +3 like the other potiomen, and cfs giving potions triple value upon charge means they can be enhanced very cheaply. You can give them four dyes to max out their enhance between battles, and yes I do recommend you charge them out of combat since four or five turns to reload a weapon is way too much. Like I said, they're for alpha strikes not sustained fire.

TL;DR - Upgrade supers with max damage and use them for prolonged battles, upgrade cfs with dual shot and always charge them to +4 before firing, use them to do big bursts of damage to bosses. Crushes and battles are inferior, don't use them.

>> No.38711071

What is the purpose of socks? Does the PC have a foot fetish now?

>> No.38711164

>>38711071
You throw them at people giving them foot fetish

>> No.38713084
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is it a dude or a girl?

>> No.38718876

>>38713084
Don't monsters spawn with random genders?

>> No.38719224

>>38713084
it's a spider.

>> No.38720340

>complete hunting quest
>game glitches and I can't turn it in
>it's a hunting quest so it doesn't expire either

Should I try to force feed the citizen sulfuric?

>> No.38721638

>>38720340
Summon Monsters forgives a lot of sins.

>> No.38724167

Which breath attack is the best to use?

>> No.38724377

>>38724167
Lightning

>> No.38725356

What affects your melee accuracy?

>> No.38725549

What exactly is OpenNefia? I've had it open in a tab for well over a month now, and I forgot what it even is.

>> No.38725998

>>38725549
That's the engine rewrite project if I recall
dunno if it's finished or not

>> No.38728938

>>38725998
Last I checked its nowhere near finished.

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>> No.38737450

>>38724167
Chaos.

>> No.38738003

>>38737450
It was nerfed in 2.08. Is it still useful?

>> No.38738100

>>38724167
just use blood stream lol

>> No.38738353

>>38473712
Oh nice, I haven't played Elona in YEARS. Is the game still being community updated?

>> No.38738541

>>38738353
The latest update is from this January.

>> No.38738595

>>38738541
Honestly makes me happy to think about that. I played a fair chunk waaaaay back in like 2014 or so and i recently thought about it again while on a Roguelike mood. To know the community for it is still at least alive makes me feel happy.

>> No.38740818

Is there a repository for older versions? specifically looking for 1.90 CustomG,2.08 CustomGX and the lastest version of OOMSEST Natsuko

>> No.38741078

>>38740818
Custom G has mega upload links on their fandom talk page. https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/3340109923483964385

>> No.38747073

>>38725356
riding, weapon type, two hand or dual wield skill, wearing a shield ,the weapon weight and some stuff like dex

>> No.38751534

>>38741078
thanks!

>> No.38759111

>>38738003
It can inflict any of these status: Wince, Chills, Dim, Poison, Blind, Paralysis, and Confused. Before 2.08 it didn't do Wince or Chills but did do Sleep (which was often interrupted by Poison anyway).

So unless you really like Sleep for some reason - and you have Touch of Sleep and Group Hypnosis for that - Chaos is still worth using if you're trying to shut down mobs.

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Can I get a qrd on what the fuck happened to elonafoobar? I've been gone for a year or so.
ElonaFoobar (now archived) points to OpenNefia (also archived) and OpenNefia points to a shitty incomplete C# rewrite of OpenNefia.
Wasn't the whole fucking point of elonafoobar/opennefia to be platform-independent, hackable and to run on literal toasters? C# completely defeats the point, doesn't it? Can someone explain what the fuck happened exactly? Is there a fork of the non-microshit language versions I should be aware of?

>> No.38760750

>>38473712
Christ, how do i find my way through that wanwan blog to the download for Elona Plus? I can't read any of it.

>> No.38764889

>>38760033
C# is technically platform-independent at this point, or at least it can be compiled on Macintosh and Linux. I personally wouldn't have used C#, but I assume that that's the argument there.
Anyway, I'm not aware of anyone working on an alternative. Actually, at this point there might be exactly one person working on anything Elona-related, outside of Omake's japanese discords. (At least I'm pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that the guy now working on OpenNefia is also the one maintaining Custom-GX...)

>>38760750
Just get the download link off the wiki forum.

>> No.38765563

This a porn game?

>> No.38766723

>>38765563
No. But like actually no and not not as in yed.

>> No.38771357

>>38765563
you can make it one

>> No.38774317

So how do I change name in Elin's Inn? I don't wanna be stuck as raw meat

>> No.38774329
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>>38774317
forgot pic

>> No.38775949

>>38760750
http://wanwanplus.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-38.html
Ano always updates the google drive link listed on this specific page with new releases.

>> No.38775971

>>38765563
Only my private variant as far as I know.

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Emseys crashes when fighting a stand user

>> No.38781059

>>38781048
woops, wrong thread

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new demo wen

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>>38784719
When the glowies turn off their microwave gun.

>> No.38787375 [DELETED] 

>>38784719
looks great whats this

>> No.38792845

>>38784719
elona newfag here what's this? looks interesting

>> No.38792918

>>38792845
noa's, the original dev of elona, new project. he's busy being insane right now so updates are sporadic.

>> No.38792960

>>38792918
looked it up, it seems interesting so i hope it actually sees a release one day cause it looks like it'll be fun

>> No.38793435

holy shit these threads are still going

>> No.38793552
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>>38793435
Elona will never die.

>> No.38795912

>>38793552
>Elona will never die
>page 10 constantly

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>>38795912
And till the day still manages to thrive amidst the waves of Vtube and template thread autism.

>> No.38796186

>>38796161
I miss collageanon

>> No.38799076

PSA for those of you using the latest version of GX: you can get around the Undead Fusion and Fishing crashing issues by booting up the normal Elona+ version of the game, doing your Fusions/Fishing there, then Save and Exiting right after before resuming playing GX.

>> No.38801394

Is CGX still being worked on?

>> No.38802004

>>38801394
Yeah.

>> No.38802099

>>38802004
Cool, how do I get elochat to work?

>> No.38803487

>>38802099
If you have the latest version of CGX (including the proper Plus and CG) it should be working already.

>> No.38805697

>>38799076
nice

>> No.38808963

>>38765563
I'm surprised there's no porn variant

>> No.38809035

>>38808963
There's a few scenarios already that would constitute for an AO rating.

>> No.38811757
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Why is our sister such a psycho?

>> No.38816601
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>>38811757
Because she's a woman.
Also
Don't eat that bento.

>> No.38818816

>>38816601
why?

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38819236

>>38818816
No reason at all, please help yourself.

>> No.38819477

What are some good monsters to catch early on for extra limbs on pets?

>> No.38819911

>>38819477
Kobold, to give them the normal slots. If you want a pet with lots of slots, get a Mutant.

>> No.38821358

>>38819477
>extra limbs
Asuras for hands
Yiths for rings
Horses for legs

>> No.38823790

There is a new 1.22 based variant named MineElona which adds new locations to North Tyrus and new overworlds like Meirun. Its still in the shitty and barren stages, but if this guy is autistic enough to keep working on it then there could be potential here.

>> No.38827040

Why doesn't my pet use rods of wishing when I give them to it? The wiki says they do.

>> No.38828546

>>38827040
Maybe it's because wish rods don't technically have a target? I'm only guessing.

>> No.38830706

>>38823790
>adding locations to North Tyris
Oh boy, more shitty fanfiction

>> No.38830896
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38830896

So what the hell is the Super Accel feat? is it like an active skill or something?

>> No.38830928

>>38830896
The max boost for casting Speed is 800. The feat raises this to 1000. It also increases the multiplier?

>> No.38833409

>>38827040
>>38828546
Now it works for some reason. Turns out even if your pet gets a wish, if you wish for "sex" it's the PC's sex that changes. Guess my android WNBAW.

>> No.38833831

When do Silver witches start to appear? any level req?

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someone pls update the etriam music pack
I can't live without it

>> No.38834931

>>38833831
Dungeons around danger level 30.

>> No.38837366 [DELETED] 

Is 2.08 available aywhere?

>> No.38842056

What the fuck is a Potioman and why am I getting so many bio batteries?

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38843284

>>38842056
>What the fuck is a Potioman

>> No.38844835
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Didn't know puppets need air

>> No.38848737

>>38844835
Doesn't matter if it's a ghost, zombie, golem, satellite unit, deity, mutant, or Great Old One from beyond the stars, all can be choked.

>> No.38848937
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>>38796186
We all do...

>> No.38852466

>>38796186
>>38848937
https://imgur.com/a/frAYe
Why did he ever stop?

>> No.38852993

>>38852466
He was driven away by a schizoposter with an axe to grind against him...

>> No.38853105

>>38852993
Petty little faggot, probably isn't even around anymore.

>> No.38858264

Anyone got a good Snail PCC?

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>>38858264

>> No.38865792

>>38863725
Scut

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>>38473712
Can garok's hammer make a living weapons? how rare is it?

>> No.38875273

>>38863725
Cute in a lowkey way.

>> No.38879064

>>38796161
>2k strength
How long would this realistically take to achieve?

>> No.38879130

>>38879064
Quite a bit I think, What was Kai's final stats again?

>> No.38879203

>>38879130
Kai got 2000s in everything on his 2nd PC though.
But that was way before Ano went even more whole-hog on the nerf shit.
If it took long then, probably take twice as long now.

>> No.38879226

>>38879203
What was his final level?

>> No.38879327

>>38879226
Don't remember, around 7k maybe?
I know he would meteor spam the deepest depths of the Void to really cheese those levels though.
His hp was fucking insane.

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How much do I have to put if wanna bed miromi-sama?

>> No.38886882 [DELETED] 

>>38473712

>> No.38888679

>>38886882
Board's busy today, eh?

>> No.38889024

LIVE

>> No.38891107

>おしっこ我慢
I will now play your game

>> No.38892688

>>38891107
>t.ano

>> No.38893550

https://youtu.be/Ky4f1X2Vxvo
translate it weebs

>> No.38897514

>>38893550
Basically this is a series of youtube videos of a playthrough of Elona as that mutant girl in the bottom right and is narrated with yukkuri voices.

>> No.38898485
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38898485

Hello.
I am retarded.
Is there somewhere I can get the latest working oomsest in a single .rar file?

Thank you.

>> No.38899788

>>38473712
Elona wiki is dead?

>> No.38901014

>>38899788
If by dead you mean inaccessible, no.

>> No.38903350

>>38879064
You could probably do it in around 40 hours if you really wanted to.

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>> No.38911179

>>38911043
absolute state of elona threads
just go to /vrpg/ already

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>>38911179
We were here before you were born, and we'll still be here after you die.

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>> No.38914486

>>38911393
it's not cannibalism if they're a robot

>> No.38915359
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38915359

>tfw no bard pcc

>> No.38915430

>>38833831
Why exactly do you want one? just curious

>> No.38917288

>>38915430
I need the claymore artifact is all

>> No.38917323

>>38915359
http://finalbossblues.com/timefantasy/freebies/bard-character-with-animations/

>> No.38921280
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Hey guys,
Would you like to change your rep for the /jp/ divegrass team? You can change the name, the character, whatever. Or keep it the same. Pic related is this thread's rep.

>> No.38922163

>>38921280
Looks good to me.

>> No.38922637

>>38852466
I called him a /v/tard once and he used it as an excuse to be lazy and quit.

>> No.38924925

>>38921280
The shirt's normally red, but I don't have any real complaints. Looks great overall.

>> No.38924993

>>38924925
Thanks! The shirt is blue because it's the team jersey, but I did what I could.

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