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Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:30:41 No.3810419 [Reply] [Original]

Okay, /jp/, /v/ here.

I don't get why you guys talk about Touhou all the time. It's fun, sure, but it's hardly Japan related. Why don't you guys talk about something...cool, I dunno. Your experiences as a gaijin being mashed into a train, or actual Japanese culture, rather than moe-threads?

I dunno, /jp/, I just don't think Touhou should have a whole board to itself. Can we have a Japan General thread?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:32:41 No.3810428 >>3810426 Why not?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:32:41 No.3810426 No

>>	Sakura !!32RHYzwb/Ga Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:33:41 No.3810437 >>3810428 /jp/ was created specifically for Touhou, amongst a couple other things.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:33:41 No.3810433 File: 56 KB, 410x289, remilia_no.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3810419

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:33:41 No.3810438 This board is not solely devoted to Touhou. If you look at the front page, you will see several threads devoted to various Visual Novels. If you wish to talk about experiences in Japan, go ahead, but I'm personally not interested in such things.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:34:41 No.3810443 (a) Are you in japan? (b) this board in not "about Touhou" (c) go back to /v/

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:34:41 No.3810445 I don't come to your board and tell you how to do things, do I?

>>	IN elite !EienTEi9N6 Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:34:41 No.3810446 >>3810428 Because if /jp/ was actually about japanese culture it would the most normalfag board on 4chan we would just try to bring touhou back to /v/.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:34:41 No.3810451 I don't know very much about Japan other than lol real estate industry. If you want to talk about America, I'm game.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:37:41 No.3810471

>>3810446
Protip: we had this discussion toad and decided that Japanese culture indeed does go on /jp/ just not the normal fag shit like "wheres the bitches"

Go back to bun if you don't like it.

OP I like Cirno but I am a secondary fag.
Go back to /v/

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:37:41 No.3810472 File: 46 KB, 469x599, 469px-Hideki_Tojo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Japan/General

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:38:41 No.3810480 File: 11 KB, 200x250, Horii_Tomitaro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Japanese generals are always related.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:38:41 No.3810484 >>3810472 Excuse me, that's the emporer.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:40:41 No.3810495

>>3810437
Fair enough, but is there such demand for Touhou related discussion that it requires its own board? Granted, it would clog up /a/ and /v/ with similar shit, but it just seems a little disappointing that each time I come here expecting at least a few threads about Japan, it's mostly Touhou. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know.

>>3810438
I've assumed visual novels would go under /v/, since Phoenix Wright is pretty much a visual novel. But okay, I don't lurk here a lot, so that's a fair statement to make.

Has anyone actually been to Japan?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:42:41 No.3810510 File: 47 KB, 709x843, umezu001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:42:41 No.3810519 >>3810495 There are plenty of other places to discuss Japan. Go there. If you absolutely must discuss Japan here, make a thread. Please make sure it is a thread that would interest people who have absolutely no intention of visiting Japan ever.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:42:41 No.3810518 >>3810495 Yeah, you're wrong. And a lot of threads here aren't about Touhou anyway. Honestly, is Japanese culture any more interesting than any other culture in the world? I don't really think so.

Sakura !!32RHYzwb/Ga Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:42:41 No.3810517

>>3810495
You'll notice that while a large number of Touhou threads exist on /jp/, they are not the majority. There are many other threads as well. Localised Japanese games generally belong on /v/, if it isn't localised, or if it is fan translated, it goes on /jp/, generally.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:42:41 No.3810512 >>3810495 >Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. You are wrong (Seriously, just look at the front page). I wish it was mostly Touhou, but it isn't. I have never been to Japan.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:43:41 No.3810524
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>>3810484
>Hideki Tōjō[1] (Kyūjitai: 東條英機; Shinjitai: 東条英機; ja-tojo_hideki.ogg Tōjō Hideki (help·info)) (30 December 1884 – 23 December 1948) was a general in the Imperial Japanese Army, member and succeeding leader of the Taisei Yokusankai and the 40th Prime Minister of Japan during much of World War II, from 18 October 1941 to 22 July 1944

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:44:41 No.3810526 >>3810518 I'd love a /history and culture/ board to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:44:41 No.3810531 >>3810526 I agree completely.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:44:41 No.3810532 >>3810495 >>Has anyone actually been to Japan? you're better off asking that to /a/. they're the "kawaii neko desu" faggots who want to be japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:45:41 No.3810537 >>3810472 >>3810480 Okay, fucking funny, I lol'd. >>3810445 You could, I dunno. Try telling /v/ to stop having threads like this: >played vidya >jerked it to Nanako Dojima from P4 >mom walked in >shame forever >reactionimage.jpg Shit sucks.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:46:41 No.3810545

>>3810495
If you want a discussion of Japan you have to have people willing to discuss Japan. Most of the time those people are lacking in /jp/. Touhou, VNs and LNs are just part of the mix of /jp/. They just seem to dominate it because that is what most people want to discuss.

I would be happy to discuss certain aspects of Japan and learn about certain aspects of Japan but I know too little to do so. I always pay attention to threads on Japan.

You will have to learn to ignore the sage bombing and trolling if you want to talk about Japan. Too many people ignore the global rules and we have no mods because this is a slow board.

/jp/ is not /b/ but most people don't seem to know the difference.

"3# Do not post the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry"), grotesque ("guro"), or loli/shota pornography."

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:47:41 No.3810549 >>3810526 >>3810531 I can imagine the trolling now, oh god.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:48:41 No.3810558 >>3810549 Yeah, I can too. It sounds AWESOME. Having the focus be away from breaking news might help it some.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:50:41 No.3810565 >>3810419 what the hell is that otter from?

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:50:41 No.3810569

>>3810526
As long as the part of history you'd like to discuss has at least a war in it, there's always /k/. During my stay in it I found out that people over there are more than happy to digress into historic discussions, provided you use some military event as a pretext.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:51:41 No.3810575 >>3810569 I hate that shit. Almost every history discussion that breaks out on /jp/ is war war war... no fucking thanks.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:51:41 No.3810579

>>3810532
I wouldn't say that, /a/ is actually very helpful, fair, and reasonable. I'm sure 1% have been to Japan.

>>3810526
That's a great idea.

>>3810518
I wouldn't say it is, no, but out of a lot of the Asian countries, I think they're a little bit smarter.

China is kicking and screaming not to be a part of industrial revolutions and shit, therefore, they get wrecked and look at them now. Japan says, "Hold on a minute, we can NOT get raped if we learn about steam engines and shit." Of course, they had to throw away old customs and ways, but it's certainly interesting the way things turned out.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:52:41 No.3810582 >>3810545 People don't sagebomb Japan threads.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:53:41 No.3810591 >>3810579 >/a/ is actually very helpful, fair, and reasonable No they aren't.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:54:41 No.3810594 >>3810579 >shit about china and japan Hahahaha what the fuck man

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:55:41 No.3810600

Honestly, I think the question should be - "Why does Japan deserve a board of its own?"
The only things special about it compared to other countries is the entertainment it markets, and we've got that covered.
But that's just me, feel free to discuss how you got mashed into a train while in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:55:41 No.3810598 >>3810575 I agree, although military conflict is interesting to a degree. >>3810565 I dunno, lol.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:56:41 No.3810603 >>3810582 I have seen them image bombed.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:56:41 No.3810605 >>3810579 Just in case you haven't noticed, China is a world power and Japan is not. That is how it is now.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 00:59:41 No.3810623 >>3810600 Japan is where this whole image board descended from thats why.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:01:41 No.3810638
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>>3810594
Am I incorrect? I thought that, because Britain got China addicted to opium, they were all "fuck that shit, machines are gay" and Japan was all "MACHINES ARE AWESOME."

>>3810600
Mm, granted, that is true. I personally wouldn't have a /jp/ board and leave Japan up to /a/, although I wouldn't trust them with actually knowing too much.

>>3810591
They are so. Pic related. This was nice of them. /v/ often does things like this as well. These are sick suggestions, and although /a/ pretty much did it to clean it out of "WHAT ANIME SHOULD I WATCH I LIKE BELIEVING IT" threads, it was still helpful and nice.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:03:41 No.3810651 >>3810638 Do you know why /jp/ was created?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:03:41 No.3810652 >>3810605 Hurr, that's true. I was talking about back in the day. But fuck China, sure they produce nearly everything ever, but who lives in China and likes it? Also, lead paint on kids toys, lol.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:05:41 No.3810666 >>3810638 This board was created by moot because he didn't want Touhou and VN (and idol, etc.) topics in /a/. If you want to blame anyone for what /jp/ is like right now, he's your man.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:05:41 No.3810668 >>3810652 I'd assume quite a few people, judging from how much and how quickly animu shit gets translated into Chinese.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:06:41 No.3810677 >>3810638 They're not normally helpful. And they are nowhere near reasonable.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:06:41 No.3810673 >>3810651 Well, if I'm to assume this is correct: >>3810437 But then again, there are a lot of posters saying "this board is not specifically for Touhou."

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:06:41 No.3810671 >>3810652 lead paint on toys is unrestrained capitalism at work

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:07:41 No.3810685 >>3810673 Mostly Touhou, but not solely for Touhou. Someone just post the sticky already.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:10:41 No.3810703 Aren't most Japan threads just "QUESTION ABOUT JAPAN SOMEONE ANSWER THIS"? If you actually have something interesting to say to spark discussion, go for it.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:10:41 No.3810701

>>3810666
I don't think you are the person I responded to with the question. Moot created /jp/ because he didn't want ANY non anime and manga threads in /a/ that included talking about Japan in general terms not just Touhou and VNs. You people always leave that bit out and emphasise Touhou and VNs.

He could have just banned Touhou completely you know. He didn't create a board just for it.

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>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:13:41 No.3810732 >>3810703 That is because they are newfags.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:13:41 No.3810734

>>3810701
Uh, no he couldn't, because that would result in endless shitstorms and trolling. /jp/ was created to get "those fucking Touhoufags" out of /a/, like it or not. He mentioned the other things because he didn't want any one topic to take over the board.

We found our own happy balance, by having threads about VNs as well (which slowly gained popularity) and other otaku-related stuff.

The "people who want to talk about Japanese culture" were never a factor until moot gave them free reign to post here.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:15:41 No.3810747

>>3810701
That's true, but this board has been this way basically from the beginning. Most people here don't have any interest in Japan itself outside of the occasional politics/history thread. If you really want a board where you just talk about Japanese everyday life and culture, I'm sure there are plenty of places for that elsewhere.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:18:41 No.3810766

>>3810734
You are full of shit too. You are pulling that ALL out of your ass.

You are stating what you would like /jp/ to be as you usually do. talking with you is like talking to a brick wall.

In the beginning days of /jp/ there were posters here posting threads about Japan. They got tired of all the trolls is what happened and posting about Japan and its culture tapered off to nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:20:41 No.3810778 >>3810734 You act like you actually know moot and have discussed this with him when you don't and haven't.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:30:41 No.3810839 >>3810419 >I just don't think Touhou should have a whole board to itself. It should. It really should. It just shouldn't be /jp/. Someone make a goddamn Touhou board so I can finally browse /jp/ in relative peace!

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:35:41 No.3810878 >>3810839 http://pooshlmer.com/wakaba/

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:41:41 No.3810906 >>3810878 Well fuck! Why are all these Toujou freaks in my /jp/, then? RAGE

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:43:41 No.3810914

>>3810766
>>3810778
Oh, please. Are you telling me people used to post on threads about Japan on /a/ and people asked moot to kick them out? Or on /b/? Or anywhere?

Touhou fans are the Israelites of Japan, that's moot's own words. /jp/ was made to get them out of /a/. He tacked on "All things Japanese welcome" because he holds us in contempt and doesn't feel we deserve a board of our own.
So yes, you can discuss about Japan all you want. That's the power moot gave you. Doesn't mean we have to like it.

For the record, I don't even post in your threads. And none of the sages here are me.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:43:41 No.3810917 >ITT: Fat neckbeard /v/irgins have a slapfight with Socially Inept, NEET /jp/edos.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:46:41 No.3810923 >>3810914 >Israelites of Japan >touhou fans What. I'm gonna assume he wasn't thinking too deeply when he said this.

>>	Sakurada !Jun.1bGALk Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:48:41 No.3810929 >>3810917 ITT: Arc attempts to exacerbate and defuse the problem at the same time. Stay tuned for further information.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:49:41 No.3810937 >>3810923 It was in a topic talking about how we were being kicked out of every board we posted in. /a/, /v/, /tg/.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:51:41 No.3810943 >>3810929 More like >ITT: Arc makes fun of some pathetic virgins having an Internet Fight and then goes to /fit/ Cya.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:54:41 No.3810956 >>3810943 How can I be as cool as you, Arc? You're amazing.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 01:54:41 No.3810962 >>3810937 Yeah, I figured. I'm for Right of Return for Japanese daily life threads, by the way.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:01:41 No.3810990

>>3810914
I am convinced you have assburgers. As always you in single mindedness make claims that just were not true at the time. It was more than just Touhou that people wanted out of /a/ and were bitching about. Touhou was used to troll /a/ constantly. /jp/s creation had nothing to do with Touhou fans and what they wanted. moot would never have created anyplace for Touhou on its own he stuck Touhou here because of the trolling of /a/ with Touhou as an after thought.

>>3810929
Arc will be back here image dumping and trolling don't worry.

>>	Sakurada !Jun.1bGALk Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:06:41 No.3811012 >>3810990 >/jp/s creation had nothing to do with Touhou fans [citation needed]

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:25:41 No.3811088 File: 98 KB, 972x505, a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3811012 fucking newfag.

>>	Sakurada !Jun.1bGALk Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:31:41 No.3811130 >>3811088 >/touhou/ You're shooting yourself in the foot, here.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:36:41 No.3811174 >>3811130 You missed the point broseph. It's not /touhou/ because touhou fans were not the only ones cluttering up the board- oh, wait, you probably were still posting "ephic wins xd" on /b/ at that time.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:39:41 No.3811191

>>3811130
Since you can't read. The reason he made /jp/ is clear. I did it to deal with /a/'s complaints. The complaints from /a/ were over a whole range of topics. What "Touhou fans" wanted never entered in to the equation. All hes said was he was not going to make a Touhou board.

Now get the fuck out tripfag of lass than a week.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:43:41 No.3811214 >>3811191 it's sakura's alt. note how they always talk to each other in any thread

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:44:41 No.3811216

>>3811088
I see it as a new comers vs the current board inhabitant that cause the split.

I don't know about you guys but I was perfectly with the old /a/ even though we have clannad, utawarerumono VN covering the front page with all sort of touhou threads going on. The only people that might be unhappy with that current state is probably the same people that is spamming the big3 shounenshit in /a/ now.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:45:41 No.3811228 hello /jp/ I am going to university in Japan next year but I also like Touhou and VNs so please continue the discussion about Japan!

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:46:41 No.3811237 >>3810990 I never said it was only Touhou, I said it was MOSTLY Touhou and NOT JAPAN THREADS.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:49:41 No.3811253 >>3810605 Japan is the #2 economy in the world. Right after the USA. I think that makes it the 2nd world power.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:51:41 No.3811265 >>3811253 But nobody gives a shit about what Japan does.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:51:41 No.3811263

>>3811216
/a/ has become something I don't even feel comfortable in visiting anymore/

The spoilers and even worse than before. Spoliers are the reason I bitch about any Anime that gets posted in /jp/ all it does is invite spoilers. The spolierfags love it. Just a different way to troll.

I have seen trolling of Aria and Yotsuba. That shit never happened before the split.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:52:41 No.3811270 >>3810917 /v/tards are all trendy teenagers. Calling them neckbeards is too good a compliment for them.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 02:52:41 No.3811273 >>3811263 I saw a 200 post thread trolling LOGH

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 03:26:41 No.3811419 And people are still posing VNs and Touhou in /a/.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 04:22:41 No.3811748

I'll answer your questions :

- /jp/ is a spinoff board from /a/. Moot already tired of complain that people post /vn/ and /touhou/ on /a/ thus he create /jp/.
- Almost no one here live in Japan, people who live in japan will post in 2chan/2ch instead. So you won't see "gaijin being mashed into a train", "actual Japanese culture". Feel free to post them and we'll ignore it as we don't understand and not interested in what you're talking about.
- So, what else remain to discuss in /jp/ ? Of course /vn/ and /touhou/.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 04:24:41 No.3811762 >>3811273 That is terrible.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 04:26:41 No.3811767 >complain that people post /vn/ and /touhou/ on /a/ thus he create /jp/. I don't really think anyone would really complain about /a/ back then. I believe moot made it up and he just hate Touhou and VNs and want them out.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 04:34:41 No.3811811 >>3811767 The Cirno trolling was ridiculously bad back then, and Touhou hijacks were all over the place.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 05:07:41 No.3811967 What is funny moot wanted /a/ to move slower and it hasn't really happened. /jp/ on the other hand can at times have threads that go two or three weeks.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 05:12:41 No.3811994

>>3811767
What the hell are you talking about, we were there.
People bitched and whined all the time.
It was mostly due to AoRF and his Nameless Fairy bots. People would Touhou hijack every thread they disliked.
In the end the botspam turned most of the board against us, much like certain trolling techniques still employed on /jp/ today.

Anonymous Sat, Nov 28, 2009 07:55:41 No.3812627

>>3811994
AoRF did lots of fucked up shit to /a/. I just think he hates /a/ and /jp/ at some level. He has toned his shit down quite a bit it seems. People say that the JBCS bot is his. Its as worthless as the Seitokai no Ichizon daily threads are. Its the same old shit and nothing new. What a booring life to lead.

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