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I'm playing Fate now, does it get any better?

I expected a masterpiece, but for now the story is a let down.. it's just about getting the holy grail, no mistery (except Archer), no mind fuck and the sex ruined some character for me.

And i fucking hate Shirou, why i can't play as Rin?

>> No.3733527

>sex ruined some character for me.
This isn't the genre for you then.

>> No.3733535

>I expected a masterpiece

You're a fucking idiot.

>> No.3733538

Welcome to the VN scene. Even top tier games have mediocre writing at best.

>> No.3733542

>>3733527

I loved Ever17 and Umineko

>> No.3733543

If you're in it for the sex scenes, skip the game. First arc was meh. Second was much better. Third was the best. Story-wise, at least, and for the protagonist's growth.

>> No.3733544

>I expected a masterpiece

There's your problem. You're supposed to keep your expectations low in order to enjoy stuff like this.

>> No.3733547

>>3733543
>the sex ruined some character for me.
>If you're in it for the sex scenes,

>> No.3733549

>>3733543
>Third was the best.
Kotomine alone isn't enough to make up for the rest of the shittiness of the route.

>> No.3733558

>>3733544

I know, it's just that i heard really a lot of people calling this a masterpiece and the best VN.

>> No.3733561

I never saw anyone say seriously that FSN is a masterpiece, well except for the most deluded faggots but they don't count.
It's a good VN but not a top tier one.

>> No.3733575

>>3733558
Fans say things. Can't you understand that atleast?

Of course fans are going to say it's a masterpiece.

I love the damn VN, and all material associated with it.
I think it's great.

But that's just it. I think it's great. it's what I think. My opinion.

Opinions are like asses, everyone has one, and they vary, from ass to ass, from opinion to opinion.

>> No.3733577

>>3733538
Mehh... I'd say it's more like mediocre writing coasting along tsukihimes popularity.
It tends to get dragged down by long, repetitive descriptions everywhere.
Well, it's decent, but not one of the best IMO.

>> No.3733583

>>3733561

I'd say it's top-tier and a masterpiece in production values, at least.

I have yet to see any VN with as many sound effects and animation effects (without having actual animation).

>> No.3733588

>>3733583
Muv-Luv Alternative and Muramasa want a word with you.

>> No.3733589

>no mistery

IT'S MYSTERY

STOP MISSPELLING SUCH AN EASY WORD

>> No.3733596

The main strength of FSN and Type-Moon stuff in general is their nice, detailed modern fantasy world. The writing itself is not so good, there's a reason people joke about Nasu all the time.

>> No.3733599

>>3733583 I have yet to see any VN with as many sound effects and animation effects

I'd rather do without them as they get pretty old after the prologue.

>> No.3733605

>>3733602
It's not like it gets better with time, it's no Ever17.

>> No.3733602

Just finish it before you say anything.

>> No.3733610

>>3733605
It definitely does. Judging by

>it's just about getting the holy grail

this guy hasn't gone very past the fate route. It definitely gets better.

>> No.3733614

>>3733605

There's no major breakthrough coming, but I distinctly remember that I hated the early parts of F/SN - so much time wasted on boring breakfast-eating and giving excessively long introductions to superficial characters that would have no story importance. After the plot started rolling, I began to like it more.

>> No.3733651

F/SN is the most overrated VN ever made. It's not bad, but it'll definitely let you down if you expect something amazing. Just play it for what it is. Or don't, if you don't enjoy it.

>> No.3733661

>>3733651
Says opinions...

>> No.3733674

Fate/stay was my first VN what I read (not counting tokimeki check in) and it got me completely hooked on VN's

>> No.3733698

>>3733511
It's just a VN, not a master piece. You'll either enjoy it for the intricate world and characters and magic system or hate it for it's tedious explanations, redundancy and slow pace in some parts. Keep going if you have the patience to see if it's interesting, stop playing if you don't. It really is that simple.

>> No.3733699

>>3733511
You can. Just ignore the actual game and re-play the intro over and over again.

>> No.3733726

>>3733610

Yeah, i said it, "i'm playing fate now"


>>3733614
>hate it for it's tedious explanations, redundancy and slow pace in some parts.

This. I really feel like it's a gigant tutorial, EVERY thing required some explanation of justification.

Also, i really felt like i'm knowing were the story is going.. for now it's all about home-fight-home-fight with explations in between... there were a lot of interesting characters who just disapeared.

>> No.3733739
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3733739

No OP, you should have played Tsukihime.

>> No.3733742

People say F/SN is overrated, but I've yet to play a VN I enjoyed more.

>> No.3733745

>>3733742
You probably didn't play much then.

>> No.3733751

F/SN a masterpiece? No.
The dark and cold-as-ice Tsukihime? Yes.

>> No.3733764

>>3733542

This.

You probably expected some mindfuck with a lof of things that apparently don't make sense.

>> No.3733780

>>3733745
Sadly, that's not true. I just simply haven't found one that I truly enjoyed more.

>> No.3733793

>>3733780

Did you play Ever17?

>> No.3733979

Why would you expect this game to have a mind fuck?

Or mystery?

It's a fucking Shounen-Action/Slice of Life VN.
It's in a whole different genre of Visual Novel than Umineko and Ever17.

>> No.3733986

Judging by the spelling and grammar, OP is a retard.

Judging by the responses, so is most everyone else on /jp/.

>> No.3733996

>>3733764
Not OP but if i wanted something like this what should I play?

>> No.3734006

>>3733793
Yes, it's probably my 2nd favorite.

>> No.3734024

>>3733996
Not a visual novel.

>> No.3734038

>>3733986
Agree.

>> No.3734062

>>3733996

Ever17

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3735263

>>3733511
Yes, the prologue with Rin was AGES better than the stuff with Shirou, and yeah, I think most of /jp/ would have liked to see the game from Rin's POV. Then we could have gotten a route with Archer, Lancer, and Ayako . . .

Hell, that should be some project that /jp/ does. Get an awesome artist, some really good writer and stuff and get together to make a fan FSN vn that's all from Rin's pov. Like KS or something, but with more fighting.

>> No.3735269

>>3735263
I think probably 60-75% of the interest in Rin being protagonist is the appeal of receiving the jackhammer.

>> No.3735291

>>3735263
Not really, no.
Interactions with Archer was the appeal, and it's exactly good because of limited doses.
As a protagonist in the whole mess, she'd be boring.
The story is tailored for Shirou, anyone else would not work or would make for a very different, probably worse story.

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3735304

>>3735291
Well, at this point it would be a new story, or a set of three new stories. One of which would be with Ayako for ultimate hotness. Besides, Rin would probably do better with a more candid and older lover like Archer or Lancer if going for a male partner.

>> No.3735310

>>3734062

It's fucking boring

>> No.3735313

>>3735304
Delusional hopes of awesome stories you cannot write and the author does not intend to are not the best discussion topic.

>> No.3735328

Fate is the worst route, and you will have to wait until the end for the Fate route to become decent. Altough the other two routes share some of the pacing isse, they are superior in every aspect and the true strength of FSN is to play the game route for route.

>> No.3735332

>>3735328
>Fate is the worst route.
Looks like you misspelled HF, bro.

>> No.3735354

>>3735291
>Implying Shirou isn't boiring

>> No.3735366

>>3735354
I dunno what boiring is, he may be that.
But Shirou is interesting.

>> No.3735382

I wish there are more VNs where you play a female.

>> No.3735395

>>3735382
There are.
But they are mostly not translated.
And the chance that they are INTERESTING is as much a hit and miss as with the male leads.

>> No.3735396

>>3735382

This ;_;

I have yet to find one.. other than Umineko.

>> No.3735401

>>3735396
...You don't really play as anything in Umineko, with much narration and constant viewpoint jump.

>> No.3735402

>>3735354
Shirou may be a stupid faggets when dealing with them girls but for everything else won my respect over him. Mind of Steel should be a desirable goal for everbody. Working for your ideals and closing the reach to final destination must be feeling good. Who the fuck needs dirty sluts called women if you can obtain a skill beyond imagination?

>> No.3735413

>>3735401

I know, but there are a lot of female pov (Shannon, Rosa, Eva, Ange) ;_;

Thre is some translated VN with a female lead?

>> No.3735418

>>3735413
That huge yuri game.

>> No.3735419

>>3735418

Name

>> No.3735425

>>3735419
Aoishiro, maybe?

>> No.3735435

>>3735413
Yes there is but I won't tell you which

>> No.3735443

>>3735413
Considering only one of them is BEARABLE, I think you are just desperate.

>> No.3735444

>>3735418

But i don't want date girls...

>> No.3735445
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3735445

>>3735413
How can you not know about Aoi Shiro?

>> No.3735454

>>3735444
>But I don't want to date girls...

There goes 95% of all VNs for you, then.

>> No.3735459

>>3735445

I'm gay

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