/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

I thought you guys said Kanji is hard.

[Anonymous No.]

I've never said kanji is hard. I keep saying it's easy.

[Anonymous No.]

Kanji is hard, and that's why he's going to rape you in your sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

不是難了!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729539
Not if I rape him first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729539
not gay

[Anonymous No.]

Kanji IS hard. Learn more than the basics and then you'll see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729640
Not really. Writing kanji is hard, sure. Just reading it is easy as hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729643

Writing Kanji is easy. Stroke order is relatively consistent and are generally made up of other kanji.

Readings on the other hand, are not consistent.

[Anonymous No.]

Takes quite a while to learn them, and even Japanese people aren't quite sure how to draw some of them (in no small part because computers do it automatically).
Still, they can be memorized while you're learning the language, and once you know them they're quite handy. Occasionally you'll even stumble upon a word that you don't know, but will understand anyway because of the kanji's meaning.

[Yutanpo !1DeKKAi00Y No.]

Kanji is hard unless your a chink. China stole kanji from Japan and use it as their national language.

[Anonymous No.]

It's only hard because there are so many and you feel overwhelmed.

Really, it's not terribly difficult, so long as you take it in moderation and realize that it's not going to be something that you can burn through in a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729527
Stupid primitive shit, you guys have way too much time on your hands if you study kanji.

How is kanji any different from ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729772
Hieroglyphics were used for phonetic spelling eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729772

You don't seem to understand just how complex Egyptian writing was.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought Kanji were hard until I actually started to learn them. It didn't take long for them to stop looking like a bunch of random scribbly lines that all look the same, into distinctive, structured ones.

[Anonymous No.]

I like Kanji because it makes me feel intelligent knowing them, considering how many people fail at, or don't even attempt to learn the language because of it.

This is also part of the reason why I'd hate to see Japanese Romanized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729805
Yeah same here. A lot of the complaining about kanji comes from people who haven't even tried to learn them.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does the Japanese language need kanji?

Cant they just go without it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729883
why english have such lame spelling exceptions and rules
why they cant go without it

[Anonymous No.]

It's unrealistic to expect people to spend multiple hours a day for multiple years studying a primitive language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729883
This is the biggest piece of shit I've read in a while.
>>3729758
Writing Japanese without kanji is like writing English without spacing and punctuation. You'll confuse the shit out of yourself eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729883
Look at this.

niwano niwaniwa niwa niwatoriwa niwakani wanio tabeta
にわのにわにはにわとりはにわかにわにおたべた
丹羽の庭には二羽鶏は俄に鰐を食べた
Two chickens in Mr. Niwa's garden suddenly ate an alligator.

That's all the same thing written in: romanized japanese, all hiragana, hiragana with kanji and the english meaning. This isn't a sole example because there are so many homophones in the japanese language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729939
Why is their language so shitty for?

Even the sand niggers and Jews have a better language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729883
They could do without kanji, of course, but there's few reasons why they'd want to. You can learn kanji while you're learning the language with very little effort, and it usually allows a much higher amount of text compared to regular kana. It also makes reading more efficient.
>>3729892
All languages are primitive. Japanese happens to be the 10th or 11th most used language in the world and, if your interests are mostly based on Japanese games, media or whatnot, it'd be almost foolish *not* to learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729939
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729964
If you think Japanese language is shitty, why are you even here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729985

For the 2d media, obviously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729985
Japan's nerd culture is superior to ours.
Our inventions are better than Japan's.
Japan's cars are vastly superior to ours.
Our language is better than Japan's.

And not just English, any romance language is better than Japan's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729985
i like french food, but hate their shitty attitude.
i like vietnamese food, but hate their smelly country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3729965
Too much of a time investment while everything worth reading/watching gets translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730019

>Japan's cars are vastly superior to ours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730021
>everything worth reading/watching gets translated.
You (and I) wish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730023
up until the last 5 years, i'd agree with that statement.. japanese cars have fallen from glory. "reputation inertia" is all they have left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730035
so send money to SaHa and ask her to translate it. other than guro, she'll do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730023
Aren't they? American cars are ugly and inefficient, German cars are an elaborate scam by doublejews, and Italian cars aren't what they used to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730023
My '98 Accord runs great, but maybe they've fallen off since then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730046
How much do you think they'd take to translate Muv-Luv Alternative?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730021

That is bullshit. You could at most only say that for anime.

There are plenty of manga that never get translated, and even more novels and games that don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730035
Ok, not everything, but enough to keep you busy.

[Chinesefag No.]

>>3730019
Myopic view from myopic westerner.

I'm raised from young to be proficient in both chinese and english. I started learning japanese recently, and its easy as shit because I already know most of the kanji.

saying that any language is better than any other language is basically declaring "I speak only one language and thus everything else must suck"

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730056
The same could be said for every language. Should I go learn French/Chinese/Korean so I can read a few interesting books they wrote or watch a few interesting movies they made?

Sure, not every shitty obscure VN that you people will masturbate over and then forget about a week later gets translated, but more than enough do, and if they don't, they just weren't good enough and are probably better left unread in the first place.

[PsychMajor !!5ONmnDmhDHq No.]

>>3729527

Kanji is hard.
It's raping my GPA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730072

If you've learned Japanese, you should know how limited it is in comparison to English.

I think Japanese is beautiful to listen to, but the language itself is very limited. It can't even handle foreign words.

>>3730076

>The same could be said for every language. Should I go learn French/Chinese/Korean so I can read a few interesting books they wrote or watch a few interesting movies they made?

If you're as invested into their media as much as many of you are into Japanese media, it would make sense to do so.

>Sure, not every shitty obscure VN that you people will masturbate over and then forget about a week later gets translated, but more than enough do, and if they don't, they just weren't good enough and are probably better left unread in the first place.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730021
That's a rather extreme opinion.
I find that only a small fraction of "stuff worth playing/reading" gets translated, and even then translations almost never attain the quality of the original.
If you're content with what few things get translated and the lowered quality, good for you, you're saving a lot of time and effort. Learning a new language isn't easy.
For me and a lot of other people it's totally worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730101

You are a Psych major; and are taking Japanese, if you think that that rapes your GPA you should go take some CHEM, MATH, and ENSC courses. Then you can learn what HARD really means in the context of school.

You've got what, like 2 classes a day?

I've got 6-10 hours of school every day of the goddamn week and then 6-9 more of homework every night (ignoring projects). I even have assignments due every day of the weekends thanks to online submissions systems. ENSC is Lunatic mode bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730187
cool story, bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730187
amount of this you will actually use in your job: maybe 10%

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730187
What's ENCS? Finance and Accounting major here. Studying for the CPA and the CFA is a fucking bitch but at least it's not as hard as Math.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730046
No thanks. I'm learning Japanese.

[Carbon !!E2UfcfuaVBL No.]

>>3730203

That's school for ya. Give you a bunch of shit you don't need and will never use.

Like math after 8th grade and mandatory gym.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730284
Eh, depending on what field you want to go to math is pretty important. It's easiest to get a high paying job with a high knowledge of math as oppose to something like History or English or undergraduate Psychology.

[Carbon !!E2UfcfuaVBL No.]

>>3730297

That's why math after the eighth grade should be optional. Not everyone is gonna go on to a career that demands higher levels of math.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3730321
I would agree if I was still in Highschool but what I've come to realize is that I don't know shit what I wanted to be at the time and neither did most of my friends.