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Anonymous Fri Nov 13 22:58:12 2009 No.3723539 [Reply] [Original]

Any day, he could wake up and simply say "I am going to make a lot of money off of Touhou."

He'd license the property to a major animation studio and he'd immediately be rolling in the dough.

He could do this *whenever he wants*. He literally has millions of dollars at his fingertips.

But he doesn't, because he's ZUN, and he values his awesome hat more than money.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 22:59:12 2009 No.3723545 cool repost bro

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:00:12 2009 No.3723548 animated by DEEN, fags rage

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:01:12 2009 No.3723550 No, it's because he's too drunk to sign an agreement.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:04:12 2009 No.3723557 If ZUN wanted there to be a Touhou anime, he'd draw every frame himself. OH GOD.

papuel Fri Nov 13 23:15:12 2009 No.3723595
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Well, isn't ther an Touhou Anime Project thing? I saw the first chapter yesterday, so, if it wasn't a dream, ther must be, and i'm pretty sure ZUN was there when the artist where drawing every frame, if he didn 't do it himself.

>>	Yutanpo !1DeKKAi00Y Fri Nov 13 23:20:12 2009 No.3723611 >>3723557 FUND IT!

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:21:12 2009 No.3723613 ITT: we pretend toehoe is big in japan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:21:12 2009 No.3723614 >>3723595 no, ZUN was against that fan-anime.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:21:12 2009 No.3723615 >>3723539 According to Anonymous, Japan doesn't work that way and there aren't people lining up to give ZUN money.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:22:12 2009 No.3723617 >>3723614 he wasn't against it, he was just worried people would confuse it for official touhou or something as long as they keep it to comiket and such and make it clear that it's a fan work, he's cool with it

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:23:12 2009 No.3723621 I always wonder why ZUN doesn't give license or receive royalty for all the figs and plushies. I always wanted to buy them but it is always SOLD OUT. Goddamm japanese.

>>	Akihafag !z6QVN8kheU Fri Nov 13 23:24:12 2009 No.3723628 >>3723621 From what I understand, he wants to keep Touhou as local as possible, so that might have something to do with it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:24:12 2009 No.3723630 File: 159 KB, 700x470, 1257790355314.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Japanese Zun brewing beer

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:27:12 2009 No.3723639 >>3723595 If zun was there he would've been stabbing the artist to death with a sharpened beer can for making that piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:29:12 2009 No.3723649 >>3723595 Can I have a link to the OP song?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:29:12 2009 No.3723651 >>3723639 It wasn't THAT bad. just a bit clawhands at parts, that's all

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Fri Nov 13 23:29:12 2009 No.3723653 The TH manga and figures are only selling like hotcakes. Japanese ZUN is going to ride his miko gravy train to the very end.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:31:12 2009 No.3723664 >implying ZUN hasn't already sold out by allowing official touhou manga and figs

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!mGXYMm0qKk/ Fri Nov 13 23:32:12 2009 No.3723674 File: 33 KB, 647x477, diekilleddb4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3723639 Then what would he do to this artist?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:35:12 2009 No.3723684 >>3723664 But one of them was drawn by aki*eda, so it's more like trolling the fanbase.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:36:12 2009 No.3723689 >>3723539 >awesome hat Fuck. Yes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:41:12 2009 No.3723709 >>3723674 Why are you posting images from that travesty?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:43:12 2009 No.3723717 >>3723674 What is that from?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:51:12 2009 No.3723739 >>3723717 Something that would've been right at home on MST3K.

Fujiwara no Mokou !!mGXYMm0qKk/ Fri Nov 13 23:53:12 2009 No.3723747
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>>3723717
The other, much-loathed Touhou anime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS9kNLOP_h0&feature=related

I actually enjoyed it because at least stuff happened and sudden Mokou stalking Kaguya into space, out of nowhere. Prepare for epileptic seizures from the animation though.

Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:53:12 2009 No.3723749

>>3723539 He'd license the property to a major animation studio and he'd immediately be rolling in the dough.

There is no such thing as selling out. Whoever said that obviously doesn't know how business works in Japan. For example, some people have the assumption that if you're the mangaka or original creator of an anime, you can get millions of dollars simply by asking someone to publish your stuff. Sadly this is not the case. Even the mangakas of ungodly popular shows like Naruto and Full Metal Alchemist struggled to make it to the next day for a few years, even while their anime was airing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:57:12 2009 No.3723765 >>3723749 Don't the publishers actually own the IP anyway and not the creators or artists, and the publishers keep most of the profits?

Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:57:12 2009 No.3723767

>>3723539
>But he doesn't, because he's ZUN, and he values his awesome hat more than money.
ZUN is just a talentless weasel that would be lost without his fanbase. Cant draw, can't write, cant manage his own business, and in my 'opinion' he cant compose. The ONLY thing he's good at is programming.

Also, Touhou is not popular, but more importantly, ZUN isn't popular. Hint: there's a reason why he's not swimming in a tub full of cash. He still works at Taito, an unknown company that went bankrupt a feel times.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:59:12 2009 No.3723779 >>3723767 Sup Robotechguy.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 00:01:12 2009 No.3723787

>>3723767
>in my 'opinion' he cant compose.
Care to elaborate on your 'opinion'?
This is the guy that actually started a new music movement and created a subgenre itself in the doujin scene and last I check the lossless collection is well on its way to reaching 1TB in the next summer comiket.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 00:01:12 2009 No.3723791 >>3723779 Not him, I'm just reposting pasta from a thread a few days ago. I personally don't like the OP's fangirl attitude. If he was trolling us right now it wouldn't surprise me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 00:03:12 2009 No.3723797 >>3723765 Yeah, if ZUN owns the copyright, what's stopping him from holding some lucrative enterprise hostage and making tons off it? Then again he does already have plenty of money from what he's done so far.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 00:04:12 2009 No.3723802 >>3723747 I already like it cause the OP has Tewi being moe. Hopefully my low standards will see me through the rest of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 00:05:12 2009 No.3723805 >>3723767 >ZUN is just a talentless weasel that would be lost without his fanbase. Do you think he really cares that much though? It's my understanding that the primary reason he makes games is because it's fun to make them.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sat Nov 14 00:10:12 2009 No.3723831 >>3723787 >>This is the guy that actually started a new music movement and created a subgenre itself in the doujin scene Oh please, Touhou still has a very long way to go to catch up to Dragon Quest or Ys in terms of Japanese fan arrangements.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 00:16:12 2009 No.3723852 >>3723831 I enjoy Dragon Quest. Where is the Lossy Dragon Quest Music Torrent?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 00:16:12 2009 No.3723853 File: 15 KB, 320x240, 1257715045036.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3723595 >i'm pretty sure ZUN was there when the artist where drawing every frame, if he didn 't do it himself.

>>	Akihafag !z6QVN8kheU Sat Nov 14 00:17:12 2009 No.3723855 >>3723767 It's fine if you don't like Touhou, but you shouldn't call the guy a weasel. You don't even know him.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 00:18:12 2009 No.3723860

>>3723805
From what I recall from reading summaries of translated interviews from the past (i.e. very secondhand sources), ZUN said he made the Touhou games primarily to be stuff that he wanted to play. I'm pretty sure he wasn't aiming for it to become popular or the monster of the doujinshi scene.

I've always thought RTG's criticisms of ZUN to be silly at best.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 00:18:12 2009 No.3723861

>>3723787
This is hard to explain. To understand what was meant by that post the following conditions have to be met.
-You throw away your bias for ZUN.
-You realize ZUN is a programmer first and foremost, and he probably puts as much effort into his music as he does his art (see: zero).
-You admit that out of all the categories of game creation, music is the hardest part to fail at. Think back to old retro games on the SNES and Sega Genesis. Have you ever heard bad music before?

The reason why fans feel the need to do remixes of his songs is because they see it as something they can overcome. Let me elaborate, the reason why Touhou has thousands of fanart is not, I repeat, NOT because ZUN is a good artist. ZUN's art is so bad that it leaves room for improvement. Being the bandwagon/uncreative hicks that the Japs are, it should come to you as no surprise that they would pounce on the open opportunity of using someone else work as a template. But the Japs are smart, they know who to mess with, notice how you never see them trying to improve on Nobuo Uematsu's work. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of FF remixes out there, but most are just sampled remixes.

Akihafag !z6QVN8kheU Sat Nov 14 00:21:12 2009 No.3723876

>>3723861
>You admit that out of all the categories of game creation, music is the hardest part to fail at.

Sorry, that one is hard to swallow. Writing good, memorable music isn't a walk in the park, even if you're "borrowing" from a couple of long-dead classical composers.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sat Nov 14 00:23:12 2009 No.3723885 >>3723852 We both know that Westerners don't care about non-Touhou doujin music enough to make a (lossless) collection torrent, friend. I basically just use Google, Sharedb, and VGMdb to find all of my doujin albums.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 00:27:12 2009 No.3723899 >>3723885 Speaking of which, where the fuck is that KIRAKIRA remix album from c76?

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 00:32:12 2009 No.3723923

>>3723876
Here's a protip from someone that has created a few games.

-If you don't know how to program your project wont get off the ground. It doesn't matter how much you google or how much time you put into it, it's just not going to happen; no exceptions.
-If you don't know how to draw you'll manage to get by. My first game sprites looked a lot better than ZUN's, which in my opinion is quite pathetic considering the fact that he's been doing this for 2 decades.
-If you have zero composer skills your music will still come out fine, depending on what VSTs you used. It's really hard to mess up a composition. This is not to say a musicians job is easy or anything, to put it in layman's terms, it's easy to get into, but hard as hell to master.

It should come to you as no surprise that programmers are paid more than artist and musicians respectively.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 00:34:12 2009 No.3723930 >>3723885 So you make a torrent, then. I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it. Or at least point out where I can get your favorite one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 01:04:12 2009 No.3724089 >>3723930 Seconded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 01:18:12 2009 No.3724154 >>3723747 That was worth watching for Tewi destroying a spaceship with Ancient Duper alone, then they throw in Lunarian Sakuya. Too bad the rest sucked.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 01:21:12 2009 No.3724169

>>3723923
Here's a protip from someone else that has created a few games.

Programming is not as hard as people think it is. You really can teach yourself from one of those teach yourself books, and then make a simplistic game using the programming language's online documentation as a reference. If you're any good at logic or common sense, you won't have much trouble.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 01:27:12 2009 No.3724193 >>3724169 This. It's really not that hard to learn, especially if you pick an easy/mainstream language.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 01:40:12 2009 No.3724255

>>3724193

And these days there are so many free engines, tools, and tutorials that are actually worth a damn. Back in my day all the free stuff was complete shit. I would have killed to have a tiny fraction of what's available for free now.

These days, there's nothing stopping anyone who has the time and desire to make games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 01:43:12 2009 No.3724266 >>3723930 Thirded.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 01:47:12 2009 No.3724282

>>ZUN is just a talentless weasel that would be lost without his fanbase.

Microsoft is just a talentless weasel that would be lost without his marketshare

Ford is just a talentless weasel that would be lost without his model T

Do you realize how stupid you sound now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 01:52:12 2009 No.3724298 >ZUN is just a talentless weasel that would be lost without his fanbase. I thought he made the touhou games because...he enjoyed making touhou games.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 01:57:12 2009 No.3724321

>>3724169
>>3724193
>>3724255
Game engines are cheating in my opinion, that's the composer's equivalent of borrowing someone's sheet music. I was referring to independent development.

Also, knowing the language isn't even the first step towards game creation. By the time I was 13 I had already memorized the basics of C. Little did I know that didn't mean nothing if I didn't have a strong grasp of algebra, calculus, and physics. Even creating a basic platformer with realistic gravity took me months.

At least with music and art you get to visually see/feel your improvement. Even til today I still suck as a composer, but whenever I walk away from a long day of dicking around with cubase I always have a smile on my face. Music simply put is fun to do. Coding on the other hand, not so much. And this is coming from a guy that eats compiler for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:00:12 2009 No.3724332 File: 59 KB, 600x339, 1256630395973.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i love how this guy is trolling you saying "bad things" about touhou and shit... but really, we are "the critics" no? come on people, come on... dont be silly

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:00:12 2009 No.3724333 >>3724321 I find coding fun, but it sure as fuck isn't using C.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:05:12 2009 No.3724354

>>3724282
>ZUN is just a talentless weasel that would be lost without his fanbase.

ZUN, unlike other designers needs his fans to create/define his plot-less characters. I'm not referring to sells, I'm referring to the fact that his characters are generic, cliche, and uninspired. Never confuse cannon Touhous with fannon Touhous. They are very different things. Cirno for example doesn't even speak two paragraphs in the game she debuted in. Yet fannon some how managed to turn her into a legendary comic relief character that would give Spongebob Squarepants a run for his money.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:11:12 2009 No.3724377

>>3724354
Did anyone ever say the characters were filled out as far as the games go? They're character models plus eight or ten or however many lines of dialogue to establish some kind of basic character, and if the fans are willing to do the rest, is that really a problem?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:11:12 2009 No.3724380 File: 517 KB, 1280x900, hands.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3724354 Whoa, there. Cirno's "comic relief" is almost always a terrible SHE'S SO DUMB joke.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:12:12 2009 No.3724382 >>3724354 Might want to rethink your example there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:14:12 2009 No.3724390 I don't even care about how Cirno is treated as a retard, I just wish people would stop making ⑨ jokes. Shit isn't funny anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:15:12 2009 No.3724392 >>3724390 Not that it ever was.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:17:12 2009 No.3724397 >>3724390 ⑨, like China, isn't even a joke anymore. It's just another way to refer to the character.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:19:12 2009 No.3724405 >>3724390 >>3724392 Maybe not to you pretentious /jp/ fucks. The rest of the internet seems to disagree.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:20:12 2009 No.3724414 >>3724405 The rest of the internet just discovered touhou. They'll be pissed about it too in a year or three, but the cycle will continue.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:23:12 2009 No.3724423 >>3724405 Most of the internet is made of mentally retarded teenagers and old perverts who act like they're teenagers, so I don't really see your point here.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:24:12 2009 No.3724427

>>3724332
I have nothing against Touhou, I just don't like ZUNdere drones like the op, that think ZUN is a good game maker. He's a good programmer, and semi-competent composer. That's about it.
-He's never invented a new genre, nor has he innovated his favorite genre. Anybody that thinks contrary to this statement obviously hasn't played any STGs besides Touhou.
-His drawing skills hasn't increased in 2 decades. A kid with zero talent could trace and come up with better looking characters than ZUN. (Though I highly doubt said kid could come up with as many fantastic character designs as ZUN.)
-And last but not least, he fails as a businessman. The guy is a loser, you're a loser, this whole board is filled with losers.

>>3724377
I couldn't have said it better myself. Hence the reason why I don't understand why the op 'whorships' him so much. I guess he must be confusing the Touhou cannon with the Touhou fannon.

>>3724380
Indeed. Though it's still better than the cannon Cirno, lest you enjoy watching paint dry.

>>	Aoko Aozaki !WU0xSUGOI6 Sat Nov 14 02:28:12 2009 No.3724441 >-And last but not least, he fails as a businessman. The guy is a loser, you're a loser, this whole board is filled with losers. He's a doujin artist why is this a valid point?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:30:12 2009 No.3724452 >>3724427 OP is out of place as he is a huge normalfag. Normalfags don't belong on /jp/.

>>	Aoko Aozaki !WU0xSUGOI6 Sat Nov 14 02:31:12 2009 No.3724457 Non-profit organizations fail as a business because they refuse to seek a profit! crosses arms smugly

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:33:12 2009 No.3724469 >>3724427 >cannon >fannon STOP USING WORDS. YOU ARE NOT GOOD AT IT.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:33:12 2009 No.3724470 File: 415 KB, 800x666, 6880156.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like canon Cirno more than idiot Cirno, as far as making new stories goes. Idiot Cirno, way too predictable.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:34:12 2009 No.3724473

>>3724397
I have no problem with that, it's stuff like this that gets to me:
>Did Cirno just get a question right?
>18 is 2 ⑨'s, and 1 + 8 is ⑨. its still within her realm of thinking
>I am relieved this makes sense or I would fear the end of days

>>3724405
>The rest of the internet seems to disagree.
That's not much of an argument. Are you the kind of person easily swayed by peer pressure? I'm not going to turn around and start liking something I find stupid just because everyone around me does.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:35:12 2009 No.3724478 >>3724457 And you stop fucking up the image of one of the best TM characters with your emote nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:35:12 2009 No.3724480 I'm three hours past my bed time dicking around with you guys. Let's postpone this debate until tomorrow. Hopefully this thread will still be here when I return. I will enjoy debunking any (and all) rebuttals. I have work in the morning, unlike you

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:36:12 2009 No.3724488 >>3724473 That's no worse than the Discordian "every relates to 5".

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:37:12 2009 No.3724492 File: 56 KB, 291x388, crossarms.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3724478 You associate crossing arms with a Type-Moon character? What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:38:12 2009 No.3724495 >>3724469 :) u mad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:39:12 2009 No.3724503 >>3724480 Well if you're going to be a smug asshole I won't even bother.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:40:12 2009 No.3724506 >>3724492 I don't think you are correctly understanding his post.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:41:12 2009 No.3724511 >>3724492 What. He's trip fagging as "Aoko Aozaki", and then using emotes. I happen to like Aoko, and anyone using emotes on 4chan deserves a painful death.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:42:12 2009 No.3724516 >>3724511 Oh, ok. I don't follow Type Moon, I apologize.

Aoko Aozaki !WU0xSUGOI6 Sat Nov 14 02:43:12 2009 No.3724519

No mom and dad I do not follow the mainstream I post on 4chan.

>>3724478

Wow that's so 2007, latest posting trends show that asterisks are acceptable and "lol" is acceptable ironically and/or in fake posting looks like someone didn't get the memo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:45:12 2009 No.3724534 >>3724478 >>3724519 Stop fighting, you're starting to sound like retarded manchildren. Grow up, please.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:46:12 2009 No.3724537 >>3724519 "lol" was acceptable on 4chan in 2004, so I don't know why you're referencing that. Emotes have never been acceptable, nor have emoticons (barring ;_; due to Oppai Ball), though thankfull you aren't using them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:47:12 2009 No.3724538 >>3724519 you aren't very good at fakeposting bro

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:47:12 2009 No.3724541

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:49:12 2009 No.3724545 This thread is a fucking trainwreck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:51:12 2009 No.3724551 >>3724541 Doesn't have quite the same ring to it as the fluffy penguin of doom.

Aoko Aozaki !WU0xSUGOI6 Sat Nov 14 03:02:12 2009 No.3724591

>>3724537

Woah buddy you're gonna have to cite some sources behind that, because the academic consensus is that lol is acceptable in parody form only as stipulated at the Council of Treant of 2007.

Your rebuttal should have double spacing, refrencing in full APA standard and be on my desk by no later then 5pm tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 03:04:12 2009 No.3724597 >>3724591 >no later then >then Obviously you are not a real academic, so I shall ignore your spurious demands.

>>	Aoko Aozaki !WU0xSUGOI6 Sat Nov 14 03:09:12 2009 No.3724619 >>3724597 Your so dense you just can't figure it out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 03:11:12 2009 No.3724622 Saging politely is peferred here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 03:11:38 2009 No.3724624 I want to eat the lunches of the top row.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 08:51:12 2009 No.3725848

>>3723861
Very good points.

But still we have to give him some credit, without him being the original creator we wouldn't have so much doujins stuff to immerse ourselves with him.
Also he is frankly the best silly hat frilly dress with random color loli template designer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 08:53:12 2009 No.3725855 >>3723861 I've heard tons of bad music in video games. You are not playing bad enough games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 08:58:12 2009 No.3725869 File: 63 KB, 960x540, ZUN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3723855 You've got to admit, he does look a bit weaselly. Literally, the man looks like a weasel. In this pic, anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 09:04:12 2009 No.3725881 >>3725869 I am incapable of looking at this picture and not laugh.

>>	Chao !!eFZ1anCCqZ2 Sat Nov 14 09:06:12 2009 No.3725886 >But he doesn't, because he's ZUN, and he values his awesome hat more than money. And for that I respect him.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 14:26:12 2009 No.3726990
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>>3725886 But he doesn't, because he's ZUN, and he values his awesome hat more than money.
I can dispute this claim that "ZUN isn't doing this for the money." If he really wanted fans to play his games he wouldn't charge money for his games at the cons. Also, if you recall his comments during the day the Touhou anime got released, ZUN said he didn't like big projects like that, because it discourages the smaller projects.

>>3725848
>But still we have to give him some credit, without him being the original creator we wouldn't have so much doujins stuff to immerse ourselves with him.
Stuff created by the fans != stuff created by ZUN. Here's a philosophical conundrum that will make you realize how much ZUN has used you. Touhou was created in such a way where the characters and stories had room for improvement (i.e., templates). Games like Metal Gear on the other hand have (virtually) no room for improvement. The reason why you see hundreds of different interpretations of the characters is because they've never been officially defined. Now if ZUN was to sell out like so many Anons have suggested in this thread, the Touhous would be given canon plots and personalities (kinda like the Touhou anime). ZUN realizes the second he sells out it will mark the end of the Touhou fanbase. It's the software equivalent of GNU/Linux selling out their software rights to Micro$oft.

It's sad that obnoxious fanboys such as the op never realized this.

4chan is pretty popular but do you see moot making money off of it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 15:49:12 2009 No.3727452 File: 36 KB, 183x158, 1218984533580.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3726990 >4chan is pretty popular but do you see moot making money off of it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 15:52:12 2009 No.3727476 >>3726990 Moot has stated time and time again that he wants to cash out on 4chan, but unfortunately the dot-com bubble burst before Rupert Murdoch got around to buying this site.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 16:24:12 2009 No.3727666 I just gotta throw this out there. Everyone is making fun of ZUN when this guy has created a game that is so popular it's around the world. I don't care whether he's good or bad at it I'm just saying that YOU DON'T COMPARE

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