/blog/ - BL and Otome Games #277

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Previous Thread >>37033713

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Wish me luck sluts, I'm going in

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>>37123617
Good luck anon. Report back on your molestation adventures.

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>>37123617
Who is your first rape target?

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Wish I could get into Sweet Pool. Cultist horror is one of my favorite genres, but boy oh boy do I hate high school stories. Do I ever.

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>>37123768
He doesn't even go to school that often. Unless you count spending hours in the school toilet

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>Himuro-sensei teaching skinship

>>37123728
No idea yet, I'm mostly going in blind and see what happens.

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>>37124025
What a slut, we've been married for years

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>M男カレシを何度も寸止めして喘ぎ狂わせ土下座されても射精させてあげない

This was fucking amazing (the title being a lie aside, though there was indeed orgasm denial)
>hearing dude's confident and suave facade gradually shattering
>turns into a hopeless pathetic maso slut
>nipple chewing
>"thank you! thank you for allowing me to use your spit as lube to jerk off!"
>finally cums so hard it blasts all the way to the ceiling
>prostate milking
>she leaves him tied up in the doorway with the door unlocked
>his mom drops by, thinks he got tied up by burglars or something, he has to explain so she doesn't call the cops
8/10, hilarious and hot.

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>>37124064
oh, how did I forget
>feMC rides him cowgirl but just the tip in

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man, i can't way to play slow damage (eng) on halloween

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>>37124025
why does he look so much better than the rest of the cast? Was he even redrawn from TMGS3

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>>37124255
Yeah, I'm looking forward to next Halloween as well!

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>>37123768
It's barely about high school.

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>>37123768
I promise, there isn't a lot of high school, Youji's too fucking ill to go a lot of the time. If cultist horror is your thing, you'll definitely enjoy it, or at least find it a wild ride. I've been replaying it recently and it's just as insane as it was the first time I played it about 8 years ago.

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>>37123617
How does it run?

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why do so many of these games not release for windows pc? are switches/psps that popular amongst women in japan?

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>>37124255
I'm guessing Feb 2022

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Do virche and tokimemo run on yuzu/ryujinx for you anons?

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>>37118492
Nah, I actually bought both and they are close enough in size (EN: 478MB vs JP: 460MB). How big is the size difference? The JP one may be bigger because your includes https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ147727.html
That's just a guess, though.

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>>37118492
Nah, I actually bought both and they are close enough in size (EN: 478MB vs JP: 460MB). How big is the size difference? The JP one may be bigger because your download included https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ147727.html
That's just a guess, though.

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Halloween anon I'm sorry but you need to learn how marketing works, there's no way they'd sell it that soon without announcing it first

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>This entire general
I hate women so much.

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>>37126369
You can try your luck with fellow minded homosexuals on /y/. But don't give up, men sometimes win in otome too

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>>37126369
Obsessed.

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Who is the best tokimemo 4 boy and why it's the slut voiced by fukuyama

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So theoretically any otome on Steam can be played on Steam Deck. Can we finally get more PC otome instead of on that piece of shit Switch?

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>>37126369
Same, I want to kiss one so bad.

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>>37124025
The bitch behind my husband is checking him out or-

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>>37127430
Wrong, she's checking (You) out.

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>>37127430
I'd worry if that was the case

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any good halloween/spooky/etc. otome/bl? pls rec

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>>37123617
It's already on ROM sites btw

>>37118625
>>37120236
It's a stage play btw
https://www.gorch-brothers.jp/sweetpool_stage
and there's already been one for DMMD.
https://twitter.com/jastblue/status/1208037741855793152

>>37124293
It looks like the TMGS3 model but remade in higher quality, but I'm not sure

>>37124025
>>Himuro-sensei teaching skinship
kek I love this
Is he the most popular character in the entire GS series?

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>>37125667
>are switches/psps that popular amongst women in japan?
yes, PC gaming in Japan isn't as big as it is over here, they Japs generally prefer console gaming
also don't forget the Vita

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what the fuck is wrong with a-s right now

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>>37128072
Their https support is super broken. Apparently it's intentional so they get more money from ads. Try changing it back to http.

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when do we get to fuck this guy

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>>37128648
In Arcana Famiglia sequel

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>sprite has red eyes
>eyes in text are described as being gold, but also blue

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>>37126569
Why? Using ryujinx/yuzu for otome on my pisashitt laptop works albeit it makes it hot, so the deck will be able to emulate most of them no problem.

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They sure made the boys slutty, this is only our second date.

The yukata was only 70 rich this time, I'm glad I checked the stores. No problem affording them if you get a job early on.
I remember they were a lot more expensive in the older games.

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>>37129223
Let's imagine my toaster is a 32-bit windows 7. Would it work on my machine

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Cursed thread

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which part

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>>37129526
How's the sports guy?

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>>37129526
Absolutely disgusting.

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>>37129982
I didn't focus on building sports yet, so I've only met him recently. Introduction event was fine, he seems like a nice guy. Not quite as blockheaded as the sports guys before him.

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>>37129696
ok mines not that shitt so I'm not sure.

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https://twitter.com/Celtia_Inc/status/1454387609304666114
Club Suicide 1st anniversary. A few more specifics about the complete edition unless all of it is old info and I just missed some of it.
Also Shiki a CUTE.

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>>37130970
>almost twice the length
>more voices
>various fixes and updates to art and music
GOOD. I guess it did way better than expected.

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>>37130970
Shiki was literally made to star in these >>37124064

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>>37129696
My ancient toaster is making a hell of racket and I worry it’ll overheat if I run yuzu for longer than 30 minutes.

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More graphics and info for Ooe

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>>37132053

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>>37129526
What’s up with that hair?

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>>37132053
I wish he weren't topping and everyone just raped him at the same time

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>>37133556
What do you mean?

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>>37132053
Favorite so far

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>>37133933
What has happened here

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>>37133933
Is that a sentient hairy alien on top of his head?

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>>37129526
On a scale of 1 to 10, how thirsty is this guy? How well written are your interactions with him?

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>>37134118
No one in the game is thirstier than your childhood friend who wants to marry you before the game even starts.

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>>37133933
Konami chan becomes a stylist. Gotta earn those yukana yen

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>>37134203
Too bad he's voiced by Kaji.

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>>37130970
We must learn more about that meiyou ending. Did he sell his ass to old yakuza men or just became a femboy camwhore

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>>37134422
Kaji has a solid ikebo

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>>37129526
Cute nerd

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>>37133965
I'm interested in him, moustache, and the kitsune-me on left (I don't know why I'm so weak to this design choice)

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>>37132074
What does that last sentence say about route structure?

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>>37134948
After completing certain characters, you get more choices, everyone gets a route and you can just fuck off and be done with it.

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Runs (so far) on Yuzu with an AMD graphics card and 6 GB RAM

>>37128648
>men and "friendship"
>muscles
there are no muscles, and the uncensored dicks are horrible
Lawless is best boy btw

>>37129696
Yuzu is 64-bit only so you'd have to install 64-bit Windows 7
I don't know about Ryujinx but I doubt it

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>>37128995
>sprite has blue eyes
>eyes are gold in random CGs
>>37128648 did Yura just forget what color Louise's eyes were because he's almost always drawn with his eyes closed?

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I always assume wacky anime hair and eye colors are non literal, and it takes me out of it if someone is mentioned to genuinely have purple hair or whatever in the text.

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>>37127810
sweet clown

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>>37136042
I find it always hilarious that the only time they mention beautiful hair and its color it's when it's normal, you never read
>and his beautiful green hair

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>>37134346
Hmmm. Somehow this looks more acceptable. But do I miss the stocky builds in the 3rd game, not these stick thin lumpy designs. I hope the writing makes up for the not so great looking art work.

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>>37124025
Which android version is this of sensei?

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I've been studying japanese for 4 days, I think I'm ready for Taisho Mebiusline

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>>37136242
My husband 1.5

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>>37136446
Your husband gets all flustered when newest MC model touches him on the lips for skinship.

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>>37136485
Himuro gets flustered now? Wish he was actually like that in his game instead of being uptight japanese dad who hates you but hot.

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>>37136500
>uptight japanese dad who hates you but hot.
laughingcheetah.jpg Hey now, android-sensei was still in beta phase when he was like that. AIs have feelings too. I’m sure the prolonged human contact made him better in human interactions.

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>ywn experience the delight of teasing Piano crazy weird chess metaphors-kun for the first time
Why did I play this game? Why did was he and everyone so fun to bully? Why were Karen and Miyo so charming that I went for them first?

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It's 2021 and the original tokimeki games are still untranslated while the girls side ones have been for over a decade, this always makes male dating sim players mad and makes me laff

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I normally like childhood friends, but I really want to punch this guy. Why is he so smug? Bitch, get out of my game.

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>>37136843
Are they though? Waifufags seem autistic enough to learn japanese in one year if they’re mad that’s good because they finally lost for once.
JJJewel translated Rosario + Vampire’s ds game for EO waifufags not tokimemo though but they should be grateful

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>>37136485
That's because he is still a virgin

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Wasn't there a Christian non slut version of tokimemo 3 translation? They never released it though

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>>37136905
He really wants to fuck, like, 9 years of blueballs and he knows he's the "main" dude of the game.

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>>37137055
Why haven't you taken your husband's virginity?

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wow! slow damage tomorrow!

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>>37137154
Making tulpa isn't that easy

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>>37137286
>VN characters can have dozens of tulpas inside
>anon can't make one

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>>37136042
Actually, dark blue/green/purple are (or were) usually meant to represent black, without actually using black or grey.
>>37136500
>Wish he was actually like that in his game
He was

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>>37136843
The PSP one (TokiMemo 4) should be easy to translate and patch, no? But the first ones are very hard to hack, that's supposedly why the project has never been finished.

>>37137014
>Waifufags seem autistic enough to learn japanese
This, most people who are interested in TokiMemo either know Japanese already or want to learn it. Or just read someone else's translation/playthrough.

>>37137066
The project died, and I'm not sure but I think the translation group (Gokusaishiki) disbanded. One day I looked through the archives of their forum when they were still working on it.
http://web.archive.org/web/20160912150657/http://gokusaishiki.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=b58cb14c7847b2d8a460d334ca3cb1e6&topic=882.225
They didn't like Tamao at first, lol.
http://web.archive.org/web/20160912210102/http://gokusaishiki.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=b58cb14c7847b2d8a460d334ca3cb1e6&topic=603.0
Here are some screenshots, still up on their blog:
https://gokusaishiki.wordpress.com/tmgs3-screenshots-2/gallery/
https://gokusaishiki.wordpress.com/tmgs3-screenshots-2/gallery-2/

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>>37137066
>>37137825
Fascinating. I never knew there was an alternative version in the works even though it never got delivered.

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Tamao deserves the hate he’s that ugly slut’s brother their whole family should take responsibility for her actions

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Tamao is the guy everyone calls the "nice guy" but he's not exceptionally nice, just inoffensively bland and boring in every way.

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>>37132053
This was a nice Halloween surprise. I love how we got a look at what everyone's issues are. I want to learn more about them, but Ariake, Takeshiba, and Hiji especially.

>有明: 無愧＝自分を善人と思い込んでいる
>竹芝: 惛沈＝鬱状態を回復できない
>日出: 忿＝あて先の間違った怒り。やつあたり

I'm glad Ariake seems to be Kurosawa's favorite, because his issue seems to be the worst out of all of them. There aren't many types more dangerous than people who think they're a good person. That's a 妄執 if I've ever seen one, especially in this context

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>>37138137
>>37138173
samefag

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>>37135416
It runs smoothly so far.
Also, wow, those poses. It surprised me. Looks kinda fake when they move, but at least they have more than 1 pose now.

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>>37133965
god I love ojisans

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>>37130970
>mfw MAIHONEYD at max volume with headphones
I was kinda worried when shiki's va wasn't retweeting clsd announcements that something happened he's very good

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>>37138268
Oh, so we get to fuck a middle schooler?

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any bl with teacher/student?
the darker the better. i don't even care if it's wangst

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Is SMTV /blog/?

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>>37138281
Not. Stop being delusional your seaweed head is just unpopular so his rival sister

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>>37138281
He was so boring he used to put me to sleep even faster than hakuoki. The worst part is how this boring fuck was fucking haunting me and my piano husband

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>>37139676
>未成年が混じっていますがコンプライアンスを厳守してBLするのでご安心ください。
Not so based Kurosawa

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>>37140844
Not even NC+ had a warning for the shota prostitute. Shotas are shit but why is this happening

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>>37140749
>>37140817
>both replies are just a few minutes apart, didn't even wait for someone else to post in between
Yep, "definitely" not a samefag

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>>37140876
Twitter pixels lives matter sjws are spreading in Japan as well.
Probably you will fuck him once he finishes school.

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>>37140549
I mean, I've seen people discuss Ace Attorney homoeroticism here before (I think that was last thread, actually)

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>>37140888
>piano husband
I don’t don’t care about this anon’s husband too, my husband is kazuma who’s tamao’s slutty sis is trying to steal from me but I bullied her enough to get depressed and lead to her to abuse her brother, he started hating his ugly mentally ill older sister, tamao is domestically abused and that’s why he’s a misogynist

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>>37140934
If discussions here happen I would prefer it over threads with /v/ zoomers who have never seen fujo designs before and mistakenly attribute it to trannyism

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>>37140980
>who’s tamao’s slutty sis is trying to steal from me
Well duh, the obvious solution is to dump that guy and marry Tamami instead.
>but I bullied her enough to get depressed and lead to her to abuse her brother, he started hating his ugly mentally ill older sister, tamao is domestically abused and that’s why he’s a misogynist
kek
Ok anon, you made me laugh, you're alright I guess.

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>>37141027
>/v/ zoomers who have never seen fujo designs before and mistakenly attribute it to trannyism
What the fuck
It used to be that any non-hideous male design was blamed on fujos or women in general

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>>37140980
Maybe you should let her have him after all

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I thought that he was blogs husband kek

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>>37141153
He is faceless old men's husband

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>>37140844
dropped
(that said there was some teasing with the shotas even in Hashihime so perhaps...)

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For me, it's Ruka.

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>>37141204
Sorry it's 2022, shotas are real now

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>>37141153
Disgusting I would rather fuck amanohashi over him

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>>37140980
>not fucking Tamao's crush AND her little brother
do better

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>>37141335
Imagine in minecraft

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>>37141337
glad they kicked out whoever thought girls wanted a negging pos boyfriend and instead gave us a shota, an old man and an actual background character.

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slow damage today~!

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>>37141387
thank you for letting me know your timezone is CST/CDT I will remember this

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good posts

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>>37141405
wait what why

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>>37141354
I think you meant Tamami
but yeah
>>37141153
Is there a single person in any part of the fandom that likes this motherfucker?

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Look when Club Suicide 2 More,Suicide comes out I will actually play it and discuss it on topically

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>>37141482
>she doesn't know

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>>37141153
>>37141337
Can I get the rundown on this guy?

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>>37141617
Secret character from TMGS2 who's an unlikable piece of shit and no one in the world likes him

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this game is dumb and i'm not done yet (actually restarted after learning mission order is important) but let me post a few highlights (1/2)

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(2/2) there thanks for coming to my blog, /blog/

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>>37141695
>(actually restarted after learning mission order is important)
lol same
I had to use a guide, no way I was gonna restart again just to learn the exact order
>>37141698
kek

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>>37141490
I like him, but only because I think he'd look good beaten to a pulp.

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>>37142411
kek
Guess I should've been more specific. I doubt he's anyone's husbando. Imagine voice acting such a character.

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>>37140927
>Probably you will fuck him once he finishes school.
That's even hotter

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>>37141335
>>37141204
>>37140844
All the guys in Hashihime and Uultra C are adults, so she may just not like it. I don't fit that weird, to be honest.

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>>37141153
What a waste of that sexy Taniyama voice

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>>37143246
>fucking high schooler bad
>fucking your mentally stunted adoptive son who behaves as if he was six good

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>>37143308
Apparently.

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>>37143308
Yes.

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Online distributors, even in japan tend to have rules about underage characters so if you specifically want to make your character a middle schooler (and not some nonspecifically aged teenager that sure does look like a middle schooler, but hey his age is never mentioned and it says everyone is over 18 in the disclaimer at the start) you can't fuck him.
This is why CAGE never got a download release.

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>>37144021
People think Japan is some kind of safe haven for all kind of shit, but they have moral guardian there too. It's not really shocking.

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>>37143308
YES

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>>37141027
Nah, AA deiscussions on /v/ have plenty of husbando talks. I actually remember that when bandaged Apollo was revealed, there was so much husbando ranking discussions I may have had a role in jumpstarting the Apollo homolust in those threads

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>>37141633
What makes him unlikable?

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>>37140549
>>37140934
>>37141027
>>37144695
AA is a Visual Novel so it gets some leeway. SMTV has nothing to do with BLOG.

I understand fellow homo posters would like to discuss this shit without /pol/ spamming TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY ever 5 posts, though.

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>>37144718
Imagine a wife beater who instead of beating you always calls you shit and makes you cook for his friends while he is making fun of you in front of them

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>>37144021
They aged up Shun in the remake, I'll never ever forgive them.

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>>37125667
PSP, DS and 3DS were all huge
PS4 and PS5 also pretty huge
Nips don't game on PC

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>>37145825
Also, flirting with a bunch of girls in front of you while you work your ass off to support his lazy ass.

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So what’s 4th MC-chan’s nickname? I like the Bambi nickname they gave to the 3rd MC.

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>>37146771
It's Mary

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>>37146830
nice madonna/whore symbolism

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>>37136905
>Hey MC remember that time 8 years ago when-

Of course I don't you dumb fuck get over it. Childhood cucks always stuck in the past talking about things no one cares about

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>>37143271
Thank you anon for preserving the legacy

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>>37146878
>>37146660 and >>37145825 sounds more your speed.

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>>37147274
Osananajimi hands typed this post.

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>>37147305
Childhood friends are always the best option, imagine being stuck with a shitty tsundere/kuudere instead.

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>>37147331
Go back to bed Toma

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>>37147331
>>37147305
Just get a room.

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>>37146830
What? For real? Why did they give her that nickname?

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Virche is actually pretty gud considering it's by the code:realize writer

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>>37147975
It's technically just by the subwriter of realize.
Probably the one in charge of frankenstein considering enchante.

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>>37147975
that picture gave me vertigo

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I like childhood friends because it’s more natural to fall someone who’ve known for a long time instead of the typical “just met you 10 days ago but I’m so deeply in love already, I’ll gladly sacrifice myself/the world for you” shtick.

Obviously this doesn’t apply to TMGS since it takes place over the span of three years. But generally speaking, I like the childhood friend trope.

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>>37143308
yes

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>>37144021
>Online distributors, even in japan tend to have rules about underage characters
i can't even believe this with all the vns i've read about lolis and highschool-aged characters. do these restrictions only apply to women-orientated media?

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>>37148721
Nope, if you see lolis and teens and they get fucked, you can't mention their age.
The only thing that escapes this is doujin stuff, because it's self published. You can't sell material where a canonically underage character gets fucked, same with censorship by the way.

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it's halloween
post short spooky voiced stuff

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>>37148491
They are fine in concept but I rarely like how they're executed. Also for otome a lot are yandere which just makes them worse.

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>>37148774
Not played it but there's this https://vndb.org/v18892

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What's the best VN for an N5 dekinai chan to start with? Tokimemo?

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First one down.
Iku's pretty dumb for a smart guy, but he's still a step up from all the past studious TokiMemos.
I'd say he's a bit forgettable? Probably won't end up being my favourite but good choice for first route.

But man, did I remember how much I hate the RNG in these games. Couldn't change his nickname until February the last year, because I just didn't meet him on the way home. And like three or four cute scenes are locked until you talk to him about romance. I had to mess up dates so he took me to the beach to talk instead of activating molestation mode.

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>>37149759
Why do they sound all thirsty?

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>>37149759
Wish I could get into these games but I just dislike galge.
I fucking hate random events and management.

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>>37144695
>I actually remember that when bandaged Apollo was revealed, there was so much husbando ranking discussions
And of course bandaged Apollo < OG Apollo, right?

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>>37146878
She actually remembers, though.

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>>37150240
?? Mc here, no I don't remember

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>>37148888
Does /blog/ not like yandere? Based

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>>37149864
>I just dislike galge
Good thing it's otomege then

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>>37150282
/blog/ wants to be the yandere

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>>37150282
Yanderes are only good when they are obsessive and psychotic and not cage-kun and the like.
Just let LIs kill each other.

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>>37150282
I don't like weak shit yandere like cage-kuns or bland possessive dudes but pathetic mentally ill boys are moe. It's not an uncommon opinion here.

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>>37148057
well that explains why it's actually decent

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>>37148721
I've played games with JC/JK/lolis that mention their grade, but the trick is because of the disclaimer at the beginning of the game by law they are assumed to be really retarded 18 years held back many times kek

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>>37150755
>because of the disclaimer at the beginning of the game by law they are assumed to be really retarded 18 years held back many times
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>37150282
This general is tsundere for yanderes look at the hype when yandere town got mentioned. It is more fun when the MC is yonder though.

[Anonymous No.]

>Almost 2022
>Still no GS1-3 remastered collection

How many years have they been sitting on those live2D models from the events? They better put those GS4 bucks to good use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37150282
There is not a single good /blog/ yandere

[Anonymous No.]

>>37150943
+ get rid of rivals

[Anonymous No.]

>>37149759
cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>37151073
>+ get rid of rivals
Give the girls more CGs and endings, and make the boys your rivals instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>37149683
Any that you're actually interested in and motivated to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37149683
As an N4 I managed to finish https://vndb.org/v1401 and actually learned a couple things

[Anonymous No.]

>>37151517
Sexually bullying Yoritake was super entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37151530
Himehara > Aota = Ooizumi > Numata = Hachiouji > Shimeno > Takaura
Himehara/Hachiouji was the best pairing by far, god I wished this VN was longer so that these two could've had at least one more scene together

[Anonymous No.]

>>37151581
I was fine with everything as long as the bully turned into a cumdumpster.
And it delivers, we need more VNs like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37151641
The best VNs are where every guy is turned into a cumdumpster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37151657
That's true, but when the guy is willing and a pushover it's not fun.
It's why I didn't really care about sakuma in hadaka shitsuji, even the autist complained a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37150943
Speaking of which, has anyone ever shared the DAYS DVD/Blu-Rays?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37151581
>>37151641
The whip, human centipede and cop gangbang by his coworkers and boss scenes were gold.
Koibito Yuugi had it's moments too, but not as good as masquerade.
I kinda miss Yasumoto Hiroki.

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>>37152131
Personally, my favorite parts were the blowjob competition (both of them), Hachiouji's bukkake, the soup vomit, and the cows.
Also, can someone pleae explain what the fuck was that ending where they put orange peels on their boners?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37152480
What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37148491
You don't have to be childhood friends to know someone for a longer time. Slow Damage did quite well in this aspect, Towa has known just about everyone in the game for years, some for decades even. It was pretty refreshing desu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37152538
Yeah, but the issue is that most games have high schoolers or high school aged people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37152518
I'm talking about this:
https://e-hentai.org/s/3ec47a728f/401793-154

[Anonymous No.]

>>37150210
All Apollo is good. Same with Phoenix.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37150318
>>37150393
tf is cage-kun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37153456
boys who put (you) in the cage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37153532
But I'm not understanding the complaint? A yandere locking you up is bad why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37153541
When almost every single one does it.
>A yandere locking you up is bad why?
It's boring, really, especially the normal otome version where the yandere does nothing beyond this but the girl loves him anyway because he has issues or whatever.

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>>37153558
>the yandere does nothing beyond this but the girl loves him anyway because he has issues or whatever.
That makes more sense. Yandere in general aren't very interesting to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37153447
Yes. Although dad Phoenix is the hottest.
>>37153594
>Yandere in general aren't very interesting to me.
same

[Anonymous No.]

>>37153541
It's boring. They should be hitting their heads until they start bleeding or unearthing MC's grave or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37153711
Woah I can't believe Wuthering Heights was an otome game

[Anonymous No.]

moustache erotic

[Anonymous No.]

>>37153928
Ugly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37153928
Hot

[Anonymous No.]

Now that the dust has settled, who's really best boy in the franchise?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37154546
It's Waka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37154546
Saeki. A tsundere done pretty well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37151984
I’ll be getting my copy some time this week. If it hasn’t been uploaded by then, I’ll share mine. [spoilers]unless my retarded brain forgets it, in which case feel free to remind me[/spoilers]

[Anonymous No.]

>>37151984
I’ll be getting my copy some time this week. If it hasn’t been uploaded by then, I’ll share mine. unless my retarded brain forgets it, in which case feel free to remind me

[Anonymous No.]

>>37153447
Apollo is hideous, his games are retarded and they should never have happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>37152480
Hachiouji bukkake contest was great. And I liked the rivalry he had we Yoritake. Wish they fucked more as mentioned above or had a route together.
Right the cows kek. The ones where you got to choose what they'd shove inside their butt. Oscar statue.
The orange peel sex cult ending was a masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37154546
Waka-sensei, the handsome ditzy genius.

[Anonymous No.]

Out of curiosity, is the bomb mechanic still in the game? I remember hating it so much, I was like"Needy bitches I am trying to fuck my teacher why should I waste time on you?"

[Anonymous No.]

mink fuck many pussy before

[Anonymous No.]

did he really though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37155642
If it's like 3, they'll only bomb you if you ever went on a date with the guys. If you don't interact with them outside of the random events, you don't have to worry about getting bombed.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/Celtia_Inc/status/1455112383257534466
>going from suicidal boys to murderers
>live2d and pc/switch
Already hyped. Do you like your zodiac-kun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37155445
Nice b8, m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>37156910
Not a bait but the truth. His game shits on the original characters and the writing fucking sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>37156933
Nope. Hobo Phoenix especially was a highlight. But I'm not gonna argue with you about it :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>37156972
He looks like a drunk who lives in a basement and shits on the floor. Hobo fetish isn't shameful but get some standards

[Anonymous No.]

>>37157138
:^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>37156716
Would there be actual romance

[Anonymous No.]

>>37155655
Wtf Mink also abuses cats?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't see the point about arguing about husbandos. I would open my legs for any 2D male love interest, maybe except Hanazawa and his baby arm dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37159627
>I would open my legs for any 2D male love interest
You and me both

[Anonymous No.]

Οk who has bigger dick Hanazawa or Takara

[Anonymous No.]

>>37156716
What's the chance this one is actually a girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37159627
>I would open my legs
I'd rather watch them fuck another guy or get fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>37160199
Cuck sis..

[Anonymous No.]

sluts vs voyeurs

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>>37160108
According to someone who tweeted info from Uesugi's fanbox they revealed the names of the cast + their seiyuu there and that one is voiced by Nao Shigure(Shiki kurasudo)so I would say very low.

[Anonymous No.]

Takuyo is still alive

https://www.gematsu.com/2021/11/otome-visual-novel-kaeru-batake-de-tsukamaete-natsu-chigira-sansen-coming-to-switch

[Anonymous No.]

>>37156716
I'm kinda offended this guy is the Virgo because he looks like a loser, but maybe he'll be crazy in a cool way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37156716
Scorpio and I'm fine with this. From first impressions Pisces looks like best boy though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37160108
>the most effeminate looking one isn't pisces
Come on japan, keep your traditions straight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37156716
Is it again antiromance all ages?
Not interested if we don't get to peg at least one of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>37161168
All ages for sure, and probably won't have much romance because of the psycho serial killer part, barring the one or two routes where the psycho is romance-related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37160686
Imagine this finger in your ass

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>>37156716
Pisces lost the scar and piercings and Sagittarius lost the ponytail along with half his clothes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37160347
Y E S

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>>37150986
I disagree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37156716
Looks kewl. But don't like it when this artist uses bright color palette, krasudo is very beautiful because of its muted colors. MC doko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37160347
Is this the >good Yomi art you guys fawn about

[Anonymous No.]

>>37162233
The green hair is the mc

[Anonymous No.]

>>37160108
Who is this character supposed to appeal to?

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>>37155445
I would agree except that Apollo Justice is actually good (even if not as good as the OG trilogy) and Shu Takumi was actually involved in its development; it could've been better but he was practically forced to make it connected to Phoenix's story. The art was god-tier (as is the art in Dai Gyakuten Saiban and PLvPW because of Kazuya Nuri) and a bunch of hot males were introduced (yes, that includes Apollo). Fuck Crapcom for not even referencing Kristoph ever again.
I played 5 and then saw the AA6 reveal, that's where I stopped giving a fuck. So I would say that anything after Apollo Justice should never have happened (this of course doesn't include DGS or AAI), although they do have some redeemable qualities.

>>37155566
>The ones where you got to choose what they'd shove inside their butt.
Those CGs take like half of all the pages in the gallery and were such a fucking chore to unlock that I lost my clit-boner halfway through, lmao. They're all basically the same CG. Not that great IMO. Still funny, I guess.
>Wish they fucked more as mentioned above or had a route together.
based, their mutual hatred only made it hotter.
>sex cult
Yeah, that's what I understood from that ending, but it was so damn cryptic, it seemed super random and non-sensical on purpose. I thought it was a reference to something in real life, but whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37159627
>open my legs for
No, you should use your legs to force them into you.
Other than that, based

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>>37154912
>>37155612
Why the hell is he so popular? Not that it's a bad thing, he really is top-tier, at least from what I remember. But there are so many other boys in the series.

>>37155283
I kind of agree, I liked interacting with him, unlike with other tsundere.

>>37155376
Holy shit, anon. Thank you so much. It's a crime that those DVDs aren't shared (not that I know, at least). I'll be waiting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37160353
We’re all degenerates here so it’s fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37162587
Depends on his disability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37162138
Thanks for posting one of the most milquetoast yandere ever that let's himself get cucked by hanzo

[Anonymous No.]

>>37162741
>Why the hell is he so popular?
Must be the combination of fun teacher but also cat lady. Also Saeki a shit. Shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37162587
Me

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>>37162667
Agreed on your points about AJ. 6 is much better than 5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37150986
Most Rejet yandere onichans are fun desu.
/blog doesn't have vita to play dance with devils and moshikami autismo

[Anonymous No.]

>>37163313
>6 is much better than 5.
I guess I'm gonna have to play it then. Not gonna pay a single cent for it though.
I've heard that there's some interesting NaruMitsu scenes in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37162938
>cucked
Nah, it was a good ending. I just wish we could have fucked Ieyasu

[Anonymous No.]

>>37162667
The trilogy made me discover my husbando so I'll never forgive these games for messing with the original cast and using the characters as props for Apollo and his sister. Apollo also needs hair plugs

[Anonymous No.]

>>37163470
>The trilogy made me discover my husbando
And who is he?
>Apollo also needs hair plugs
Don't you dare insult Odeko-kun's adorable forehead again

[Anonymous No.]

>>37163414
He had no time for ninja ho shenanigans when all he seeked was dominion over Japan. And setting up his bro with qt underage ninja ho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37163414
>Ieyasu
I’m disappointed there wasn’t a secret 3P ending with him and Hanzo.

[Anonymous No.]

Otome game about romancing older prosecutors when
>>37163637
>and who is he?
Obviously the best boy Mitsurugi Reiji. The only good part of those games is his glasses.
>don't you dare insult odeko-kun's adorable forehead again
Fine you can get him a wig instead

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>>37163766
>Ieyasu ends up fucking Hanzo right in front of the main character
>when it's over both mysteriously disappear leaving the mc alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>37163390
>moshikami
Saw this in /a/ https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/229700946/#229701668
Is this true? Is he really this bananas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37163926
He didn't mean it

[Anonymous No.]

>>37163926
........

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>>37163926
Everything would've gone differently had he had a cage

[Anonymous No.]

>>37156716
I mean I'll play it since cs was so good... but some of these designs are DMMD tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>37159774
Latter has canonically killed people with it.

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>>37163926
Yes anon that's him. /a/ anon forgot to mention that he also made a collection from his sis cut nails and her fallen hair he collected from the shower drain. He licked them or ate maybe both I don't remember. Had a foot fetish as well?
I don't have a vita myself, but I watched the whole game on bilibili, dance with devils too. N5-N4 friendly

I liked Lindo MCS's cousin/brother? and the Hirarin masochist demon from Dance with Devils. Both fucked up in the head.

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>>37162741
I think it's because it's a sweet and appropriately slow-burning teacher-student romance that you actually get to take part in? Maybe. The 天然 appeal was also probably a big part of it, especially with a cold and intimidating dude like Himuro as the previous teacher. I haven't seen anyone pull it off as well as Waka did

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>>37163897
>Mitsurugi Reiji
>the gayest one
kek I'm so sorry for you anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>37163926
Why is all-ages otome these days like this?

[Anonymous No.]

Ok fine, if we're all degenerates I'll just ask: why aren't there more legit shota options in otome? There's usually the "hyperactive blond one thats obsessed with sweets, but will ironically be one of the oldest options", but I'm talking a straight up little boy. Bonus for corruption and MC taking the lead rather than the bratty shota domming the chick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37164943
>corruption and MC taking the lead rather than the bratty shota domming the chick.
My good fellow of exquisite taste. But really here’s why: >>37144021

[Anonymous No.]

>>37164943
Because they hate us and don't want our money. Afraid it will scare away normalfags who unironically enjoy bland lupin-like main boys? The world may never know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37164997
But I’m confused, you get loli imoutos in games all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37164943
>rather than the bratty shota domming the chick.
but that's the best shit, damnit

[Anonymous No.]

Most women just aren't that into shota. I can't even think of many shota from general joseimuke that got popular other than shotajijis like Yagen.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd gladly fuck the shotas from touken ranbu. Especially hotarumaru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37165178
Maybe most women just aren't as pedophilic as men so shotafags are a tiny minority within this niche

[Anonymous No.]

any /k/ otome games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37166650
not unless you count the senjuushi gacha shit

>>37165747
nonsense

[Anonymous No.]

>>37164769
>not buying doujins of your husband being dominated by other men
Your love isn't real

[Anonymous No.]

>>37166718
ok cucq

[Anonymous No.]

>she doesn't self insert as the man fucking her husband
sis, what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37166824
No

[Anonymous No.]

Can't you just enjoy a piece of media without developing schizophrenia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37166824
>self-inserting as both men and women as long as you get to fuck your husband
The ultimate yumejo

[Anonymous No.]

>>37166718
Weak. You're supposed to cut out the other men and replace them with your pics

[Anonymous No.]

>>37166868
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>37166868
>developing
If you're enjoying schizophrenic things and vastly prefer it to normal stuff like /blog/ usually does then something was already off to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37166868
Why are you role playing as someone sane to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

>>37166872
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37127430
You should be asking yourself why he's offering random high schoolers to teach them how to do skinship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37167083
That's what happens when you marry your teacher. He will be getting new fresh students every year while you aren't getting any younger. See that girl behind him? He probably taught her skinship too

[Anonymous No.]

>>37166824
I might be a mentally ill yume but I’m too good to self insert as a cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>37166874
This. In DGS Sherlock was into some ugly old dick - damaged goods. That's why I erased that male

[Anonymous No.]

>>37165385
I fucking love brats

[Anonymous No.]

>>37162741
If Waka is just a normal student, he wouldn't be that popular. The whole uwu cats ditsy genius act is kinda whatever but I guess some people want to fuck a soft teacher.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37165385
It usually annoys the fuck out of me bc I get unironically triggered by spoiled brats that never get their comeuppance. Maybe it could work if the dynamic flipped partway through or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37165400
Most normie men aren't into loli, but anime can radicalize you to weird fetishes, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>37169123
And that hasn't happened with women and shota hence they aren't common in these games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37162741
Older guy, fluffy hair, cute and smart, likes cats and has his own "sob story". He is also (Your) sensei

[Anonymous No.]

I want to get shotadommed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37164943
What's really rare is shota x shota that doesn't devolve into Boku no Pico-tier trapshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>all this self inserting talk
>mfw just play vns because i like cute romance between characters regardless of the genders involved
>don't care about fetishes either
Was I enjoying them incorrectly all along?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37169909
Enjoy how you want. Personally, I don't self-insert and also enjoy watching a romance play out. I'm also bi and like het, yuri, and BL shit. I understand people that lean either strictly fujo- or yume-joshi, but I don't understand unironic lashing out at the other side .

[Anonymous No.]

>>37169994
Accepting people with different interests and opinions? Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37169909
No, it just means you're a normie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37163908
>Ieyasu ends up fucking Hanzo right in front of the main character
>psssh nothing personnel MC-chan
>when it's over both mysteriously disappear leaving the mc alone
ftfy But dang what a waste of a pretty good-looking character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37163390
I'm so glad Rejet is dead so they can't spread their shitty memes anymore. Dorico was gonna be bad anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>37169909
You had it good until
>don't care about fetishes either
Is there nothing specific you enjoy? Grow some taste, genuinely

[Anonymous No.]

>>37164943
Because the creators are hags with father complexes, enjoy your teen girl with older (under 25) love interests

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173138
Isn't it better to enjoy stuff regardless of fetishes, even if you have them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173138
I grew out of fetishes and now feel nothing myself, so I get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>ending has your brother and brother from the future fucking you while you're in crippling depression (literally)
holy based

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173203
I like how they actually have sprites where they look alike, just mirrored.
And some of the bad ends in the game are super fucking based

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173203
That's actually hot. When is Aksys going to announce localizing it

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173148
Sure, but I also think it's good to be extra excited about certain things even while enjoying the overall story. Why not have more fun? It's just weird as hell to me that people don't have things they're super into

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173203
MFM threesomes are gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173367
They aren't gay once you factor the selfcest aspect into it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173383
Wait I thought you meant one brother (A) and your currently unborn brother (B) fuck you. Its just self cest? I'm disappointed

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173396
It's your brother and same brother like 500 years older, more depressed and insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173138
I have fetishes I just don't care whether or not they're in the VNs I enjoy for other reasons. I prefer doujins for my porn anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173236
Yeah, Ankou and Adolphe's bad ends are particularly great, I especially love how Ankou's bad end mirrors the prologue while exploring the suffering he went through. Then Adolphe being shown how useless and powerless he is so he also decides to go through the same retarded amount of suffering

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173499
Ankou and Adolphe were good boys, extremely thirsty too the final CG of the game being a full blown tonguerape will never not be hilarious, even Ceres notes just how much he wants to fuck her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173511
it's what 5 years of pent up frustration does to you since Ceres was crippled in bed during those years. Adolphe even notes that he's shouldering Ankou's feelings for her too so that's another 500 years of pent up frustration

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173524
I wish the game added the classic otomate epilogue in the extras, because I really wanted to see those five years of Adolphe cringing himself to death trying to woo her with sweet talk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37172999
Pretty sure they haven't given up on releasing Dorico yet but I have no hope in it either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173533
Considering how jewish Otomate can be I can see them releasing booklets in their market events. There's also that Stellaworth booklet which continues from each guy's respective salvation ends. I was thinking of an FD considering this seems like their best selling recent title but I doubt it'll actually happen because the game feels complete and Lucas literally dies in his salvation end. There's also the stuff with Ankou too. It's probably best they keep it that way because otomate sequels/FDs tend to be awful anyway
Also most of the CGs are top-tier. I especially love this and Yves' salvation end CG where he proposes to Ceres while everything around them is literally in flames. Can't wait for the artbook.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173203
Virche guys are so hot I wish it had a good writer

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173719
>Yves' salvation end CG where he proposes to Ceres while everything around them is literally in flames.
This is one of the best scenes of the game and it's a shame you basically just skip to it and is completely disconnected because no way in hell people actually redo all routes for the salvation ends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173733
It's actually decently written at times, even Ceres is actually an actual character in the true end which is nice.
There's this scene where she snaps at Adolphe that does a lot for developing her character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173719
Can I read the extra booklets somewhere online? I didn't know there were afterstories.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37167200
She's probably wondering if she can get him to do skinship with her too
And he'll probably agree, what a slut

>>37167564
>Sherlock
I swear, they knew exactly what they were doing when they designed him. He looks good in pink too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173410
nbr or br?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37174717
The disappointing option, not like the game ever lies, they are orphans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37174734
I thought maybe since they went all out budget wise they could be based just once...

[Anonymous No.]

>>37173733
Haven't been keeping up, what makes the writing bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37174746
Incest=wrong.
A love interest probably ending up with his best friend in the true end=based.
Their priorities=super straight.

[test No.]

>>37175326
(You)r=arteries contain more semen than blood

[Anonymous No.]

Otomate fags are not based enough to write something like
>drive an entire family to debt
>kill the father, drive the mother mad and watch her die slowly
>force the old brother into prostitution and drive him to double sudoku with a whore
Most bad endings be like
>be a mafia mob druglord, have your sis as your personal sex slave and seethe and cry everytime you fuck her v1
>force her into prostitution while you fap and cry at the same time v2
>fap to her fucking her other brother, then burn them to death
>or marry her without her knowing shit, while you suffer every single day, because in the end you are the same as your momma kek
Based blog tier writer, I hope they are hired to write more shit like that.
Not surprised, that the same fag worked on koibito yuugi and masquerade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37175444
>>37152131
OK, I gotta play Koibito Yuugi. You make it sound almost as good as Masquerade, but the art and designs always put me off plus it didn't look like it got that dark.