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Thirteen Mon Oct 26 22:36:12 2009 No.3616276 [Reply] [Original]

Drawfags out there, I need practice on POV, particularly with human figures.Would Im@s be a good source of POV references of various poses?

Anonymous Mon Oct 26 22:44:12 2009 No.3616323

http://www.posemaniacs.com/
I'd recommend this instead. You can actually rotate the poses to get the specific angle you want, too.

But, to be totally honest, I have worked from Idolmaster poses before. It's just that you should probably get a better sense of what you're doing first, since their bodies are very stylized and unrealistic. It's not a good learning point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 26 22:49:12 2009 No.3616351 Point of view?

>>	Thirteen Mon Oct 26 22:51:12 2009 No.3616359 >>3616323 Bookmarked, thanks. Although, the style isn't a huge issue. I just need to get my perspective right, like what a foot looks like when placed at such and such position when viewed and such and such angle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 26 22:51:12 2009 No.3616357 >>3616351 He probably means perspective.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 26 22:54:12 2009 No.3616376 Drawing / General

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 26 23:23:12 2009 No.3616504 >>3616359 No, you can expand on a style after you have a better idea of what you're doing.

>>	Thirteen Mon Oct 26 23:24:12 2009 No.3616507 >>3616504 Kk, much thanks for the advice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 26 23:31:12 2009 No.3616541 >>3616359 Break it down into simple shapes then add in the details - "humanize" it.

Thirteen Mon Oct 26 23:35:12 2009 No.3616562

>>3616541

I'm not new at drawing, just, well, having issues with original human creation, mainly. I got down basics such as that.

The thing is, for example in a drawing I'm working on, every way I draw the foot looks wrong. I can't place why it looks wrong, either.

>>3616376

>Im@s

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 26 23:39:12 2009 No.3616597 >>3616562 Show some examples. I'll help you out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 26 23:43:12 2009 No.3616625 What's the best way to learn how to draw people? I've just started on circle-frame bodies.

Thirteen Mon Oct 26 23:44:12 2009 No.3616633
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>>3616597

Current project, Sakuya.

Not really too far into it, and not the most recent image (I've messed around with the foot further, among other things).

I also have a problem with anime eyes and hair. But that's a different topic of discussion. Unless, of course, you're willing to help with that as well.

>>	Thirteen Mon Oct 26 23:47:12 2009 No.3616656 >>3616633 On a side note, I haven't done much art digitally (this is my second project using a Tablet, first I never even completed). Using Photoshop CS3.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 26 23:47:12 2009 No.3616657 >>3616633 >>3616625 here, and I wish I was that good

Thirteen Mon Oct 26 23:51:12 2009 No.3616672
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>>3616633

Most recent picture. Not much difference, though, honestly.

>>3616625

For me, just continually sketching images of people, from stick figure with right proportions to Chibi, helped. I used to be absolutely horrid at people. Not much better, but nonetheless, it's better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 26 23:52:12 2009 No.3616676 >>3616672 Real people, or animu people? I've been using both really.

>>	Thirteen Mon Oct 26 23:55:12 2009 No.3616684 >>3616676 Both. Because even super deformed animu people still have some basic human proportions. i.e. Arms don't reach down farther than the knee.

Anonymous Mon Oct 26 23:57:12 2009 No.3616687
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>>3616633
not >>3616597 here
Just as a side note, posemaniacs is a really good resource for practicing perspective/pov shots, but just as important when out there doing them on your own is thinking deeply about how your subject looks from your particular angle. How parts of the body are foreshortened, what parts of the body are obscured by others, and so on.
I'm only a beginner-tier artist myself, but I've found that I've made as much progress thinking about perspective as I have from actually practicing it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 26 23:59:12 2009 No.3616691 File: 139 KB, 823x1241, 02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3616687 Come to think of it, that was probably not a great image to use in a discussion of pov/perspective, not exactly my best shot at that, ha.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 00:08:12 2009 No.3616729 >>3616625 here again. What's the best way to learn how to draw clothing? I think I've got the idea of bodies down, but you have to draw clothing over it, and I'm not sure if I've got it yet.

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 00:22:12 2009 No.3616765
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>>3616672
Didn't draw in the toes because its too small and you're not gonna see them anyways so I just group them together. Just remember that big plain break on the foot.

>>	CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM Tue Oct 27 00:23:12 2009 No.3616767 >>3616765 Take an anatomy course. ಠ_ಠ

>>	Thirteen Tue Oct 27 00:25:12 2009 No.3616772 >>3616765 Well, at the very least, it doesn't seem that I was too far off. Thanks for the help, Anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 00:26:12 2009 No.3616774 >>3616767 I am.

>>	CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM Tue Oct 27 00:27:12 2009 No.3616778 >>3616774 oh okay, then pay better attention in it

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 00:28:12 2009 No.3616784 >>3616778 I don't see the problem in drawing like Bridgeman.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 01:34:12 2009 No.3616975 >>3616765 Non-existent waist considering the width of the torso and position of the legs. Posture and position of feet would lead to character falling over. Forehead not prominent enough/ Lack of a scalp.

>>	Thirteen Tue Oct 27 01:39:12 2009 No.3616987 >>3616975 Exaggerated drawing. The feet posture I've been working on. Will take into account scalp and forehead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 01:43:12 2009 No.3616995 >>3616987 Exaggeration doesn't work that way, bro. But nevermind, carry on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 01:51:12 2009 No.3617013 Correct looking feet (or the whole body as a matter of fact) are largely defined by shadows. Stop outlining everything and concentrate on definition of form.

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 01:58:12 2009 No.3617024

>>3616987
What did I tell you about developing a style after you know what you're doing?
This is what people do, they don't learn the basics and they blame the way their piece looks on the idea that it's "stylized" or "exaggerated", but it's really just a complete lack of understanding.
Simply put, you don't know how to exaggerate until you know how to work with the original form.
If you're going to improve, please take criticism seriously instead of making excuses for yourself.

>>3617013
Good man.

Thirteen Tue Oct 27 02:02:12 2009 No.3617030

>>3617024

> Ignored the fact that I took the rest of the criticism well.

Anyways, I never said I wasn't going to work on the form. More likely than not, I'll probably put this on hold as I do work on said things. But when I come back to it, I'm still probably going to leave the waist as is. That was intended.

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 02:12:12 2009 No.3617052

>>3617030
Well, no, not really.
You didn't take offense or anything, but you only considered some points and blamed the rest on the idea that it was "exaggerated".

Oh, but you know, it wouldn't be hard to work on the waist. won't really show anyway. You can add the curve and it will still have the effect you want it to when you erase it for the dress, probably. Just, the way the outline of the waist functions with the legs at the moment makes them look like spaghetti. Zun would approve, but I think you can definitely make some more definite edges.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 02:13:12 2009 No.3617053 >>3617030 >implying you took the criticism well >you don't know how to exaggerate until you know how to work with the original form >leaving the waist as it is

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 02:13:12 2009 No.3617055 Your perspective isn't just fucked up on the feet, the whole picture is going all sorts of places in terms of perspective.

>>	Thirteen Tue Oct 27 02:32:12 2009 No.3617113 >>3617055

>>	Thirteen Tue Oct 27 02:33:12 2009 No.3617114 >>3617113 Meant to type something... Yeah, I realize that for the most part. The feet were the main issue bugging me, however.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 02:34:45 2009 No.3617116 >>3616274 plz stop spammin ur shitty bored on fuckniggertalk.com (fucknigger = anon) ok we no ur jealous but u need 2 get ur own traffix

Anonymous Tue Oct 27 02:43:12 2009 No.3617135
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I did a quick gesture drawing over it just to see how to make the pose work.
Don't know if it will help, maybe you'll see where I'm coming from?
It was an interesting exercise for me, anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 02:48:20 2009 No.3617148 >>3616272 plz stop spammin ur shitty bored on fuckniggertalk.com (fucknigger = anon) ok we no ur jealous but u need 2 get ur own traffix

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 03:06:12 2009 No.3617185 File: 33 KB, 468x452, poser7poses.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3616323 They are just using a model from Poser on that site. OP, it's better to just download Poser 7 for references.

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