/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

I just learned about Cookie, so all the other videos are remakes of the original? And why do all the characters have different names?

[Anonymous No.]

hello newfag
now fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

yes.
because they have different names.
just watch more.

[Anonymous No.]

Who fucking cares, it's all garbage completely unrelated to Touhou made by a bunch of retarded tertiaries or worse. Not /jp/.

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>>36156123
>And why do all the characters have different names?
Different voice actors/seiyuu.
>>36157545
doubt.jpg
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31186826

[Anonymous No.]

few nag

[Anonymous No.]

I want to rape ANYUI!

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>>36160254
No, only lewdvoice

[Anonymous No.]

I will never get why /jp/ gets so triggeter over cookie when its so damn fun and like the only fun thing that nico douga has left.

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>>36156123
Just asking, OP, how long after you know 2hu before you learned about cookie?

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>>36160744
equally surface scratcher that just understandably don't like rat posting, but can't find any better angle of critique.

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>>36156123
good. now find a NYN x ICG shitpost or something idk.

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>>36156123
It's trash that should be burned and doesn't deserve to exist.

It is pure garbage filtered through the lens of people not even knowing that touhou exists, let alone its characters.

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>>36160840
Not him but
10 years since I learned about Touhou
6 months since playing the games
3 months since learning about cookie when I came here looking for Orin tips and tricks
Hope this helps

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>>36156123
>I just learned about Cookie
I'm sorry to hear that.

[Anonymous No.]

She's not real.
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34161132

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>>36165126
touhou? thats source material's source material, relevance speak to itself.
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27807049

[Anonymous No.]

Western Cookiefags insist Cookie is related to Touhou while Cookie haters insist it isn't. JP Cookiefags insist Cookie isn't related to Touhou while JP Cookie haters insist it is. Why is this?

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>>36173598
>JP Cookie haters insist it is. Why is this?
Do they, now?
Can't exactly take you at your word, Anonymous. Even if they do, though, it'd be because Japanese consolidate all touhou together in this weird way. That's why yukkuri is so popular, and why we have some more irritating fanon memes

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>>36173598
>Western Cookiefags insist Cookie is related to Touhou while Cookie haters insist it isn't... Why is this?

probably because cookie is seen as this "new thing," discovered by western touhou fans who mistakenly think they're touhou characters, and the jp cookiefags also come from inmu (that the westerners probably don't know much about), i guess?

[Anonymous No.]

Can we use this twitter thread to put an end to the debate for once?
Let's discuss whether cookie is or not related to touhou.
I will go first.
In my opinion cookie is as related to Touhou Project as RvB is to Halo, let me elaborate, while in its conception it was a derivative work of it as any other it quickly evolved to the point where it is its own thing. While it's true that the characters are heavily inspired (or even look identical) to some 2hus you don't need to know about the touhou universe to understand cookie and viceversa. In conclusion you could say that it is related to it, in the sense that it was birthed from it, but its a standalone "universe" completely separated from the original.

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>>36173898
>probably because cookie is seen as this "new thing," discovered by western touhou fans who mistakenly think they're touhou characters, and the jp cookiefags also come from inmu (that the westerners probably don't know much about), i guess?
While Cookie is generally a "???" in most casual touhou fan circles outside of JP, or just gets labeled as doxxing or trolling, I think you're right on the ball in regards to the mentality of anons and JP-speaking Western touhou fans. INMU has gotten similar from people either mistaking it for Wrestling Series/Gachimuchi, or just not knowing it to a be a fad.
It's not like people outside of Japan don't get it, but there is so much context that's lost just by not understanding Japanese language and web culture in general, yet alone the 2/5ch/nnd sphere of things, that just being exposed to a byproduct of it isn't going to be that interesting. You have to go out of your way to understand it.
Anons on imageboards tend to be the kind of people that have the closest inherent sense of that kind of culture over other communities. Especially the idea of intentionally contributing time and talent into a low-merit/taboo topic for no other reason than personal entertainment and expression among an asocial audience.

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>>36174375
I agree with your opinion entirely.
But I think most people who entirely reject it as being relatable either don't care to know about it, or don't want it being brought up due to known or suspected negative association.

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>>36174375
>Let's discuss whether cookie is or not related to touhou.
Of course it's related, it's ridiculous to say otherwise. It's as related to Touhou as Touhou is related to eastern mythology in general.

People would think you're insane if you said "Kaguya(touhou) has NOTHING to do with Kaguya(Taketori Monogatari)" but apparently "Reimu is entirely unrelated to SNNN!" is a perfectly fine and normal statement?

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When people say cookie is not Touhou, It doesn't mean they are not related, but they should not be mixed.
You see, early part of cookie MADs were all about bait and switch into inmu. Which later assimilated by the inmu culture and developed into its own thing. The ambiguity of the character is heavily in play of cookie shitposters. However, their actual different is just too large it is inappropriate to see it as Touhou, especially when online scandal/violence and e-girl drama shit is involved. It's like yukkuri abuse materials are usually not consider as Touhou when it is not set in Gensokyo, and there is no actual Touhou character around. Not to mention ZUN fucking hate it. That alone should exempt Cookie from being Touhou

>>36173598
>JP Cookiefags
They say cookie is not touhou either out of respect or trying to flex their cookie knowledge
>JP Cookie haters
More like Touhou haters, trying to bring touhou down with inmu related crap
>Western Cookiefags
Clueless kid only know reddit rat from tik tok
>Cookie haters
In /jp/ scenario, Cookie could be seen as proto-vtuber, Cookie girls are essentially internet personalities being pushed by the community instead of corporation and girl themselves. This is getting more relevant as aneki coming back to surface as vtuber. Vtumor aside, no proper Touhou fan should touch this shit.

Also I believe the infectious nature of inmu culture is incompatible with /jp/ exclusive board culture. Though i don't think they have anywhere to go on this site except shitposting boards. (monotone)

[Anonymous No.]

Why is there so much drama between the cookie community?

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>>36184527
its like ytp community autism, people take shitposting VERY seriously

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>>36180533
>it is inappropriate to see it as Touhou, especially when online scandal/violence and e-girl drama shit is involved
Imma need clifnotes on this, I've never really dug into the history of Cookie due to lack of interest (all I know is that the origin video is infamous for it's lack of quality and it's connection to Gachamuchi).

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>>36184634
>ytp community autism
It's crazy how serious things get there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u1TWf3XJrk (6 hours of a pooper exposing another for pedophilia)

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>>36156123
i found out about it from MAD (actually YTPMV) nearly a decade ago, and still don't get it, other than that it was unfaithful to the source material

[Anonymous No.]

I think that it is important to define whether cookies are Touhou fan-made works? Or It just
Shit-posting culture of japan. Because this would be helped us to define what is cookie series

My opinion on this subject is that cookie(Marisa and Alice's cookie kiss) and cookie series(which is directed by TIS) are fan-made Touhou voice dramas. which means voice drama itself are related to Touhou because it is just ordinary Touhou voice drama

However, when we defined cookie as a shitpost we have to understand the Inmu community's characteristic
Inmu or also called midnight's lewd dream community is (unlike other communities on Nico Douga for example gachimuchi or wrestling series) huge because of their tolerance(?) of other cultures

Like once they did on Nona Reeves Cookie is also a 'Victim' of their interest. They just involved other cultures in their own culture as the second army

Furthermore, when we take around to the kussoseries(NYN is on Reimu and Marisa's chocolateHeart). it is just a bunch of shit-posting of cookie series

>>36185475
Not Gachimuchi But Inmu. Gachi also has their Touhou parody like 東方餡掛炒飯(Touhou Fried rice with red bean paste )

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>>36173598
JP Cookiefags hate the normies/secondaries who only recognize the Touhou characters but not the inmu references.
The JP people calling Cookie Touhou now are Cookiefags trying to bait/trigger each other due the reasoning above. They behave exactly like people here.
Nicodou's culture has regressed so much during the last decade, and it's mostly just inmufags jerking each other off now.

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>>36187320
>>36184527
>>36184634
There was drama just the other day involving a cookie participant who became a youtuber
>>>/vt/8217568

[Anonymous No.]

I genuinely don't understand how people don't "get" Cookie but as far as I'm concerned the more people that see Cookie as utterly impenetrable the better.

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>>36173598
Western """cookiefags""" don't even know anything about cookie.

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>>36191913
They don't get the random videos that are parodies of cookie

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>>36191705
all roads lead to live streaming

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>>36191913
90% of cookie is inside jokes about inside jokes, and if you don't understand moonspeak you will never get it.