Elona

[Anonymous No.]

New Customs Edition

Errors? Set the compatibility of the .exe to Windows 7

Using GIMP to create a sprite or PCC? Select "do not write color space" and save it as a 24-bit BMP.

What version to read? Read the pastebin.

>New? Start here
https://rentry.co/9rxt9
https://pastebin.com/FDv2ATAa

>Mods
https://rentry.co/6xmf9
https://pastebin.com/5ja03yuf

>E+ Changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29
>Latest Elona+
https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000040280

>Elona+ 1.90 and 1.89 Archive (and mods):
https://mega.nz/#F!2eBTxQLD!IO9hCXUHZYJgmNCpm3mfBA

>Elona+ Custom-G Release Thread (currently outdated):
>Go here for Custom download too
https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/3340109923483964385

>Elona+ Custom-GX [Elona+ 2.06 - NEW]
>Elona+ Custom-GX is a new variant of Elona+ based on Elona+ Custom-G, updated with the changes in Elona+ up to version 2.06. [AN: It's new, so try at your own risk. backup your files to be safe]
https://github.com/Ruin0x11/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/releases/

>Current Version:
Elona+ 2.06 (2021-08-15)
>Latest Custom [GX]:
E+CGX 2.06 (2021-08-16)
>Last known Custom (currently outdated):
E+C 1.90.4 (2019-06-02)
Elona+ Custom-G 1.90.4.2 (2019-10-20)

>Omake Overhaul English Release Thread:
https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/3308392244314428365

>Current Version:
Elona Omake Overhaul EN (2019-06-17)
Omake Overhaul EN Hack final release (2018-12-14)

>OOMSEST Updates
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ObWACccjqvaJLcXBfsH2tHEGaYfaD0S_

>Elin's Inn
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1moY3mcjFNPCytLFTdhgB0Xhnq2Bbt_yE/view

>OO English CUSTOM
FINAL RELEASE
https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/3665075680313659434
https://mega.nz/file/YA8HxRxT#MKLbn9fJxYyxAEY9XFAKTxj-plD-TUYsHHyyk0KCogk

>Elona Vanilla CUSTOM
FINAL RELEASE
https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/3384697816088892399
https://mega.nz/file/QM1TmBjY#ZS21Ob7wDT84yg6_zLhjUasOMXpaOhEo3elq2P4fyLQ

>Elona Mobile
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ltgames.elona
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/elona/id1512936641

[Anonymous No.]

>new customs edition
What did they add?

[Anonymous No.]

Asking again because I didn't get an answer in the last thread.
Is there a way to disable the Custom-G gameplay changes in the new custom?
I've looked through all the options and I'm not seeing one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36151142
Just play standart elona+

[Anonymous No.]

>>36151142
If you want some changes and don't want others, edit the game to remove the changes you don't want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36151300
There's no option anywhere for it then?

[Anonymous No.]

I can finally play Elona again, thank fuck for custom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36149633
It's in the releases tab. It's a continuation up to 2.05+.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are there fifty thousand fucking versions of this game. I hate you. Fuc

[Anonymous No.]

On the wiki, it says you can change the AI of allies and give them new abilities in elona+.

https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Younger_cat_sister
>Elona+ also gives you the ability to give pets new abilities and change AI routines, which may be necessary for making use of the cat sister's abilities, especially considering her routine is melee.

I know abilities are done through gene engineering but how do you change their AI?
I've tried using the command banner but my cat sister wont fire her bow it no matter what i do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36153595
Technically, there's only vanilla, mobile, and mods. Skyrim has a billion or so mods, but there's only like 3 versions of it.

>>36153630
With AP via leold in act 2. Or using custom ai with custom/g/gx

[Anonymous No.]

>>36153678
They aren't mods, they're variants. Have you never played Angband?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36153678
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't played Elona since the very first release.

What the fuck have I missed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36154044
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(omake_overhaul)

[Anonymous No.]

>>36153844
Sounds like a mod to me.

>>36154044
No fixed the graphics, they are much much better in 1.16 now.

[Anonymous No.]

is there any recent graphics pack that works with custom gx? the majority on the paste are very outdated

[Anonymous No.]

I'm getting an error that reads "Picture file is missing" whenever I try to change to a custom portrait. The game crashes as I press "p" on my status screen.

It's 24 bit, a BMP file, 80x112, and is named "face2".

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone play mobile? How has that game's development gone since release?

[Anonymous No.]

Excuse me,also instead of saying "GET OUT OF MY HOUSE" you just ask them nicely to leave,what is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36158226
I don't do mobile unfortunately, and everyone seems to ask about mobile...
>>36159890
Fuck if I know.
I'd just ignore. There's probably info on the wiki, if there isn't, there's always creating test characters to figure out what those choices do regretfully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36159890
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)#2.04
>"Sexless" is now sex "unknown" as the latter has a broader definition.
>Added it as an option during character creation.
>Now characters can start as male?, female?, bisexual, and unknown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36159890
>that shit
>EZ mode fast skillups and other stupid junk ano bricked like speed
Is there any point to actually "upgrading" from 1.90? Is whatever content was added between then and 2.06 worth the bitter foretaste I get glancing at the patch notes?
I guess I'll ask some linger questions:

How do I get lots of bread or flour required for picnic baskets? The ideal food should be baskets to train potential and then the Herbed In foods (steaks/fruit grand parfait/curry from farms) when are "starving" status for best exp gains?
Does adding more hand slots to pets increase their martial art damage or should I be adding other limbs? What limbs have a good return on investment? Ring slots and arms?
If grinding all god gear/feats do you wait for November truce ground summoning while scumming overweight cargo mechanics (feels cheesy to me and IIRC there was some quest that failed after a set amount of time, was it some sick mother or story quest?) or do you just save rods of Wish that don't fail?
How many shops do you guys own and what specialties?
Any way to increase drop rate of Sap of Yggdrasil/Angel's Tear? my potentials are shot and have gotten 0 so far. Just run higher level nefia and get more relevant skills for the gather spot?
Does the networking fix enable moongate functionality or is that still dead? I see the first message someone has typed when starting but then nothing else while playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36160288
No
Maid mansion
zero to four hands (in newer versions)
Hands with timestop weapons
opatos boots cheese
one,sells cooked corpses
RNG
dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>36160288
>How do I get lots of bread or flour required for picnic baskets?
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Shopkeeper#Baker

>when are "starving" status for best exp gains?
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)/1.70_-_1.79#1.73
>Removed the game mechanic that gave a 1 to 1/3 satiety-dependent multiplier to experience gained when eating without any of the "Hungry" statuses. This multiplier is now fixed at x3 for food that is not rotten, and x1 for rotten food.

>Does adding more hand slots to pets increase their martial art damage or should I be adding other limbs?
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)/1.90_-_1.99#1.91
>Changed the accuracy of Martial Arts attacks so that it is on par with weapon attack accuracy. However, this accuracy now also has a percentage bonus depending on the number of hands. (No bonus when user only has 1 hand; bonus maxes out at 4 hands.)

>Any way to increase drop rate of Sap of Yggdrasil/Angel's Tear?
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)/1.80_-_1.89#1.83:_detailed_changelog
>[New types of random Nefia]
>Lake
>Harvesting will yield liquid materials more often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36159890
in vanilla plus it's Male? Female? and Bisexual, but custom changes it to explicitly trans

[Anonymous No.]

>>36159890
why are westoid devs like this?

[Anonymous No.]

I asked before but this general keep dying. Do any of you have a nifty gamepad configuration for the game?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm largely new to the game, got about 30 levels into a magic-based character on E+ but now I wanna try the new custom and I made a mage-knight (with the intent to go almost fully physical with magic buffs supporting me) who uses two handed weapons and medium armor.
I notice my attacks are missing a lot, is there any specific skill I should be investing in to raise accuracy? Two-handed? Longsword? Tactics? I'm a bit lost here

[Anonymous No.]

>>36162073
>I notice my attacks are missing a lot, is there any specific skill I should be investing in to raise accuracy? Two-handed? Longsword? Tactics? I'm a bit lost here
Raise your stats.
Your hitrate is too low.

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>>36162236
I'm assuming DEX is the stat that pertains to hitrate yeah? So I just need to raise that by dodging attacks and stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36162366
Look it up on the wiki. There should be some stuff on there about raising specific stats. Just dodging things won't help.

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>>36162058
Why would you use gamepad to play a roguelike?

[Anonymous No.]

Loiter just got executed right as I was going to do the post act 3 stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36162073
Some monsters have low HP but high evasion. If you've been trying to melee bats, you should use a special action like Drain Blood instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36166589
Just rez him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36168184
I ended up just killing time until he responded but that is a good idea.

[Anonymous No.]

So,what was the last good version of the game? before all this gold,nefia,skills nerfs nonsense started happening? where enthumesis was the final enemy (Excluding the gods obviously)

[Anonymous No.]

>>36171547
If you're just interested in nerfs, plus started massively buffing the game after 1.90. You can hit max stats in 20-30 hours now, if you try hard it. Exp rates are crazy, and most attack/defense options have been buffed. Just recently liches gain a straight 1.90x/1.5x multiplier to all dv/pv sources.

Speed is weaker though.

Otherwise... I think 1.6x range is before the original nerfining started, but you'll lose out on a ton of buffs that sped progress up.

[Anonymous No.]

I used a business card to change the black cat's class to Wizard in order to make er more magic-oriented.
I know that changing the class changes the class feat, but what about the growths? It's been some time and her growths are similar to her default class (magic stat is a bit lower than strength, for example).

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>>36172241
Class gives extra potential to certain attributes, but it's only when you sleep and only a couple of percent. It's mostly negligible, since it's an ancient vanilla feature from when pot pots only gave 2% potential.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36173045
So it's mostly race that determines growths? Besides raising the potential via potions.

[Anonymous No.]

>races determines growth
wait wait wait,since when? i assumed this was a omake overhaul exclusive feature that only worked when you were naked and scaled with level

[Anonymous No.]

>>36173186
Nah, race doesn't determine much. You basically get the same growth no matter the race/class. Your starting potentials are strongly affected, but those don't matter for long.

>>36173201
....do you mean pv/dv gains? Plus added it in 2.06, didn't exist (for pcs/pets) before that. Otherwise... potential growth from race/class has been in since vanila, it just was to small to care about in plus, with it's +200% potential potions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36162073
>I notice my attacks are missing a lot, is there any specific skill I should be investing in to raise accuracy?

Raise your Two-Handed and whatever weapon skill you're using. Inflicting the Bind condition will help massively as it'll make the mob way less likely to dodge, a few spacts do Bind.

>>36167291
Magic also works since spells always hit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36173996
Oh, okay, thanks. I notice that my previous build (Juere thief) had a much higher dexterity, but that's probably because I used more dexterity-based skills, right?

Is there a way to change your race? I'm a Juere Claymore this time because my thief file got corrupted and I didn't want to diverge too much from my previous build, but I kind of wanted to experiment with a fairy claymore. It sounds like a shitty idea because of the weight limit (so less bonus from Two hand), but their evasion would be really high.

[Anonymous No.]

so what are the different builds you can do right now? Like I know about the obvious Two Hand/Dual Wield/Shield/Martial Arts/Firearm/Casting ones but is there anything less obvious like that necromany thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36178295
Throwing items. The Trismagistus does an AOE magic attack, the Present can be used to heal pets or inflict statuses on enemies, and roses do unresistable Cut damage. There's also Hazard Recipe, and a wide variety of harmful potions.

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone managed to get elochat working following the instructions posted in the last thread ? (pic related).

Mine tells me I need an internet connection whenever I type something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36172236
>You can hit max stats in 20-30 hours now
was this the yaca point card thing with herbs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36159890
I believe its called mental illness/ biological mistakes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36181681
>Trismagistus

This thing is why you can get away with only levelling Alchemy, Control Magic, and Throwing for your offense. It's nuts. Unless you're seriously underpowered you'll shred hordes and do lots of damage to bosses even late game since it's Magic damage. Hell you can throw it on yourself and let the triple magic storm invokes clear out everything around you.

>Present

Toss this at a mob and let your pets tear it apart. One is all you need if you build your pets right.

>Hazard Recipe

The damage this does cannot be resisted so it's good for bells and such and if the mob has anorexia they'll keep vomiting their guts out. But Trigmagisti will be a better choice for the large majority of encounters unless you're using pets and/or spooks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36175549
No real way to change race. The mask you can make only changes the displayed name. Even in oomsest where you can wish for other races, it's not a perfect conversion, you still keep some of your races stats, and don't get the full benifits/restrictions of the new race.

>>36184729
That helps, but it's really the picnic basket spam that sped everything up. You can get plenty of herbs by spaming farms with yaca points/gardening quests/cute fairys/miromi statues/ for herbs. Don't forget you can choose which herbs will grow now with the gardening tools. Just got to work on your timeskip strats, have a nice snail/bell on the overworld, have a nice map to recharge your sleep timers, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

Pull me back to Elona bros

[Anonymous No.]

It doesn't look like Custom-GX fixes the new, much faster progression and stuff like DESTINY that made me go back to 1.90.4 despite the entire point of Custom-G releases being to fix Ano's silliness. Or is the changelog non-exhaustive?

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>>36199517
Seems more like a continuation of Custom than Custom-G. They're even translating stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36183505
Seems to be working but either nobody else has it on or it's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36200825
>>36183505
Go into options -> network settings and enable as it is off by default and the poster didn't put subscript for that part in his instructions, so a lot of people miss it. I'm pretty sure it's just bugged even with networking on though. The only time I get messages is loading my save, it will post the last message on the server and then doesn't try again. Never seen other player death messages, people chatting, or other things that used to be prevalent with the old servers.

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>>36201087
Yes, nevermind. It's just not behaving like a real constantly-updating chat so I assumed it wasn't working.

[Anonymous No.]

Do livestock that possess the "looks plump with succulent meat" provide more bonuses than "looks plump with decent meat"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36202049
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Big_brush

Yup, but rather than try to remember the random flavor text, it's best to just reference the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

How good is the oomsest translation ?

[Anonymous No.]

uh what is this

[Anonymous No.]

>>36208804
Old news, that's what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36208804
the custom translation
standard plus has male?, female?, and bisexual as C, D, and E

[Anonymous No.]

glad to know I can pee in a bottle now
t-thanks ano

[Anonymous No.]

i get this when trying to compile elona+cg
what do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36211511
Stop using v3.6 of the compiler. Only v3.4 works. One of the Custom-G mega.nz folders has a copy.

[Anonymous No.]

How come I can't teach my pet killing dance? She has 96 perception.
Honestly, I find many skills that meet the requirements aren't able to be taught.
Is it because killing dance would be too broken that it was possible disallowed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36216752
Teachable skills need to be manually added to the list custom ai uses, so any skills added after bloody shade stopped in 1.89 won't work. You can ask about it on the github if you want fixes.

[Anonymous No.]

Been out of the loop for a while. Were there any major changes between 1.xx and 2.0?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36201087
>The only time I get messages is loading my save, it will post the last message on the server and then doesn't try again
this, its busted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36201087
>dungoneering with 864k gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>36219939
I don't have a yac bank yet

[Anonymous No.]

So far, I've been cooking herb infused lvl 5+ dishes for my pets and I to share, but is it really worth it?
I have a limited amount of potions of potential and a single meal brings the potentials down from superb to great/good, so I'm not at superb potential for a very long time. Is it really worth it since I'd be playing the rest of the game at "good" or "bad" potential?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36228587
firstly be a basketchad
secondly yes
it's attribute increases that reduce potential, not the food itself
the fact it tanks your potentials just goes to show how much it's increasing your stats

[Anonymous No.]

I avoid picnic baskets, herbs and potions of potential on purpose because the progression feels too fast otherwise.
I also avoid learning skills (like mining or casting or whatever) I don't plan on incorporating into my playstyle for this specific character. How autistic is that?

[Anonymous No.]

I've played Elona+ on and off for years, and I still have no idea what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.]

Are secret experience of kumiromis also in OOMSEST?
feats seems much more important here.

[Anonymous No.]

Are Little Sister's useless in combat or something? I've Gene Engineered one to be able to hold weapons, yet it seems it doesn't attack at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36234050
Yep, it's a vanilla item.

>>36234161
Probably need to tweak the ai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36234794
thanks dude

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone knows why the log doesn't show up?
I downloaded the latest OOMSEST

[Anonymous No.]

>>36235117
>frustration
Haven't touched OOMSEST. Does that mean what I think it means?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36235532
It has some negative feats that give the frustation debuff if you don't do an action often enough, like trigger happy where you get it if you don't shoot a gun every so often.
I did pick the sex addict one though, and I cannot remove the damn debuff, I literally can't have enough sex since my sp is very low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36235732
>I literally can't have enough sex since my sp is very low
w

[Anonymous No.]

>>36235117
Wow I'm a fucking retard it was a setting that hides the log that I somehow turned on.

[Anonymous No.]

[Froggy !!UYKMqlVW9eC No.]

>>36149522
Under lvl 10 playing on Loss and my computer shut off randomly. When I loaded my save I had -80 karma. Is there any way to get out of this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36238339
jail or derphy.
make sure you have food for the former. cargo works best.

[Froggy !!UYKMqlVW9eC No.]

>>36238356
I knew about Derphy but not about jail. I'll keep that in mind in the future, I actually just died in a random encounter after I typed that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36238385
Just go to the embassy and try not to get killed.

[Anonymous No.]

>In Elona+, slaying a lion has a small (1/80) chance of spawning a NUCLEAR DEAD LION, a lion-shaped nuclear bomb. It acts the same as Nuclear bomb.
wat

[Anonymous No.]

>>36238451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrTvCqPtxao

[Anonymous No.]

>>36149522
>elona+ download on the rentry link
>file not found
???????????????

[Anonymous No.]

What rank do I need in my magic vendor to reliably get potentials of potential?

[Anonymous No.]

Do devil fragments (the ones you get in defuse trap quests) do anything yet ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36243992
>100 in my experience. I've seen them as low as 50 but it's very infrequent below 100.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36239429
2.06 is out.
Check the previous thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36245109
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)#2.01
>Using a dark fragment now grants 1 Abyss power.
>Added 3 new items that can be made from dark fragments in item fusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36243992
They'll never be reliable, even at rank 10k, but 120 is the softcap before diminishing returns starts to kick in. They can also show up in a rank 0 shop, rarely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36245136
>>36247406
jesus fuck. guess my potential's staying at 'hopeless' then. Only found 3 after countless restocks. I eat 2 herb infused foods and then it's back to hopeless, attribute potential dropoff is way too fucking high. YES I BLESS THEM.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36238356
Isn't Jail the worst way to reduce karma since the place drains your stats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36248404
yes, but if you can't be arsed to do anything you can just sit there and hold enter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36236919
e to show her physically that you're not gay

[Anonymous No.]

It seems the sex addict feat in OOMSEST is bugged, frustation doesn't go down when you do your own allies, only prostitutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36249053
According to some guy on the elona variant wiki, it does go down, just not much. The amount depends on who you do. Prostitutes have the biggest effect, followed by other NPCs, and pets have the least effect. Their charisma value also matters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36249267
Do you know how much charisma a pet needs to become useful in that? or at least a good enough way to grind charisma on a pet? going to derphy every so often isn't the end of the world but it's kinda annoying

[i luv my !yh/ck/yOn2 No.]

Any recs for fun runs? I've played this thing for like 1000+ hours and dozens of playthroughs and already ran out of ideas.
Thinking about making some sort of custom spritesheet and custom allies and getting really into the roleplaying aspect for a change. I've done snail runs and finished Act 1 with every class. Only meme combo I haven't tried yet is Snail Tourist on Vanilla/Omake but am not masochistic enough to give it a shot yet lol
Anybody got interesting/challenging roleplaying ideas? Bonus points for ally-oriented runs. Feel free to give funny Omake minus Feat recs too.

>>36238339
just go into normal towns and complete quests for karma. don't forget the speed potions/spell/rod to outrun the guards lol

>>36243992
100 is good enough but 150 maxes out their chance I think. Odds are low, maybe 10% per restock. Make sure to max out the magic store in every city. Another fun way especially during early game is quaffing (or just scumming) wells lol. Whatever stat losses you may get will be offset by the (future) stat gain from the boosted potentials.
If on E+ try alchemy for more reliable potions. It's laughably easy to get the required materials in recent updates, like 3-5 pots per dungeon run lol. Also gene engineer Fishing and Gardening on your pets for a steady supply of Yggdrasil Sap and Angel Tear.

>>36246294
Up until 2.03 or so the items you make with them are utterly useless though lol

>>36249633
In Omake grinding pets is a pain in the ass. For Charisma I'd recommend having them around and investing, or performing together maybe.

I'd send a cute picture of my imouto but
>Uploading files from your IP range has been blocked due to abuse.

[i luv my !imoutobssk No.]

>>36249773
wtf are tripcodes not working properly anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>all the /pol/chuds ITT getting triggered by gender inclusive options
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>36249802
Umm sweaty the original (male? female?) options were obviously a meme and whomever did the English translation had to push their political crap into the game. Mtf and Ftm are bad translations because they miss the point of the originals, if anything the originals refer to traps/tomboy chars, not trannies per se.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36249773
pick both the sex addict and chastity feats in OOMSEST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36149522
>Elona+ Custom-GX [Elona+ 2.06 - NEW]
>Elona+ Custom-GX is a new variant of Elona+ based on Elona+ Custom-G, updated with the changes in Elona+ up to version 2.06. [AN: It's new, so try at your own risk. backup your files to be safe]
>https://github.com/Ruin0x11/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/releases/
Nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36249633
I don't. You would probably have to attempt decompile and analyze the resulting HSP which is horribly mangled because the decompiler dictionary has not been updated since HSP 3.4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36211835
I managed to make the HSP 3.6 works. I have no idea why though.
So basically, in main.hsp line 14,
you change

#uselib "hspda.dll"
#ifndef _DEBUG
#func sortnote "_sortnote@16" pexinfo, nullptr, nullptr, nullptr
#func xnotesel "_xnotesel@16" pval, int, int, int
#func xnoteadd "_xnoteadd@16" bmscr, str, int, int
#endif

to

#uselib "hspda.dll"
#func func_1 "_sortnote@16" pexinfo, nullptr, nullptr, nullptr
#ifndef _DEBUG
#func xnotesel "_xnotesel@16" pval, int, int, int
#func xnoteadd "_xnoteadd@16" bmscr, str, int, int
#endif

Then in system.hsp, search for sortnote and replace it with func_1
You will get

func_1 buff, 1

Basically you are forcing the game to use the older version of sortnote instead of the newer version where it's no longer in hspda.dll (it's included without any module but I have no idea why it doesn't work)

[Anonymous No.]

>>36149522
>Elona+ Custom-GX [Elona+ 2.06 - NEW]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36159890
If you wanted to be male or female wouldn't you just pick "Male" or "Female"? Why the extra options? And if you wanted to be a male who wants to be a female wouldn't you just pick "Male" and then use the in-game gender switch method? I don't understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36249991
lol is there any way to relieve the frustration or can I negate it with armor/stat recovery pots. gonna go with Snail Tourist Chaste Sex addict for lulz

[Anonymous No.]

can you display item names (including quality) above items in dungeons? this shit is getting tedious. E+ Custom-GX

[Anonymous No.]

>>36264151
I distinctly remember this being a feature years back and asked the same question a few weeks ago. It's some Mandela effect shit. I also remember item highlighting not being a simple * but having many custom colors.

[Anonymous No.]

So what exactly is E+CGX? It says it has all the new stuff from Elona+ 2.06, but does it follow G and remove crappy mechanics like pissing and the other bad stuff plus added? I haven't been keeping up with plus since 1.9 anyway, any other bad things added?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36265814
CGX is G ported to 2.06, then a few changes/bug fixes have been made since. But it's mostly g.

[Anonymous No.]

Should I use jiu-jitsu or is it a trap?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36266937
Sure. High dv enemies tend to have low hp, so I tend to leave it on all the time. But, there's no reason you can't toggle it based on opponent for best results.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36267410
>But, there's no reason you can't toggle it based on opponent for best results.

Good for Duplicane too. Leave it on for general blasting, turn it off if you need the damage.

But Magic Device is awesome in general, so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36264151
>>36264218
There's the ItemList.txt file in the main directory where you can set up highlighting of specific items, I think you gotta tell elona to reparse it in the settings every time you changed something though. I can't remember anything about item names above the item sadly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36269397
There's 2 item highlighters, one that custom added, and one that oomsest (auto pick on the wiki) uses.

Neither let you see loot on the ground tho'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36269397
>>36264218
Oh hey I just realized that elona extender has the label feature which supports custom colors. Might've been what you were originally thinking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36258941
>And if you wanted to be a male who wants to be a female wouldn't you just pick "Male" and then use the in-game gender switch method? I don't understand.
IIRC this technically turn your character into a female with the "self-styled male" description. Trans is a bad translation since its supposed to be pretty much the complete opposite.

[Anonymous No.]

I just want Custom-G 1.90.4 with the added main quest content and nothing else.

[Anonymous No.]

so.. say i wanted to wish for a Yacatect's bank using a rod of wish and instead accidentally summoned Yacatect because i fucked up the wording, how would i go about removing her from my house without having to fight her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36278442
'i' -> remand

[Anonymous No.]

>>36278574
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

bankatect

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get the OO variants to work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36299535
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410211229081272330/877756085040209920/NC_Prepack.zip

By gambling on a mysterious zip file.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36300023
are these all translated

[Anonymous No.]

>>36300182
Yeah. The jp devs ship the translations themselves for oomsest and nc. OO is the version you need to hunt down translations for, and the main reason installs are so confusing. That pack has it all installed, and even updated to the new chat server.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I missing something or is Violent Garden really overtuned? I've gone from my little girl having to do basically all the fighting to clearing out floors in a few seconds on my own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36302020
Ano nerfed violent garden awhile back, so g double buffed it out of hate for nerfs. CGX builds on g so if you use it, enjoy your free screen nuke.


...if you don't use cgx, know that you're using the weakest version of violent garden.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36302710
>g double buffed it
Isn't it just exactly where it was before Ano nerfed it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36210496
Can you give those bottles of piss to your little girl to drink it?

[Froggy !!UYKMqlVW9eC No.]

Has anyone ever been successful playing on Loss. Any tips? I keep doing okay until around lvl 7-10, when a high lvl enemy spawns and one shots me before I can escape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36300023
which one's the best

[Froggy !!UYKMqlVW9eC No.]

22 min in so far. This is the best I've done so quickly. This might finally be the Loss run where I succeed.

[Anonymous No.]

what exactly is elona? the start here pastebin didn't really answer that

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't played Elona since before Noa abandoned it. Should I just download this Elona+ Custom-GX and roll with that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36314109
NC

[Anonymous No.]

>>36160122
>>36160583
>>36208995
Hermaphrodite is probably a more accurate translation, at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36314907
Do Elona+ Custom G first and play until you get used to it. GX is just an extended Custom G.

[Froggy !!UYKMqlVW9eC No.]

Damn my run ended. I even got to wish for seven league boots.
>>36314537
A 2D turnbased jrpg with a sizeable amount of tabletop elements and some roguelike mechanics. You build your character and your party, and you can also recruit the monsters you fight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36316698
If GX is an extended Custom G, then why would I start with the less extended mod? I don't see the point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36316814
Because it's new. I came out not even two weeks ago. Stick with the last good version until everything is set with the new is the mindset I took.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36316887
My mindset is always to experience the maximum amount of content at once because I don't have the patience or time to play a game through multiple times except after a gap of years, especially not a grinding game like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36316916
>I don't have the patience or time to play a game through multiple times
You don't have to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36316943
Yeah, but I want to experience all the content without having to do that.

[Anonymous No.]

So what are the prostitute and blacksmith guilds in OMSEST about?
Can you join the the North tyris guilds if you join them?
Are they good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36316982
They're just alternative guilds, still only 1 at a time. They were only partially completed before oomsest devs scampered off. So there are a few features to the guild, but not a huge amount. NC added a few new things, but mostly to the blacksmith guild, in the form of smithing xp buffs.

ATM the biggest draw they have is easy access to quests themed by your play style (smithing, screwing), or sodas to restore fatigue.

Still better than the thieves guild.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36317952
I'll just join the mage guild again then.

>NC
Is there really ANOTHER layer to this fork, is it worth it to update to that?
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>36149522
Haven't played this game in a while, how do you get good weapons now that you can't craft a billion spears to get a living weapon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36319962
farm monsters that are documented to drop specific uniques
alternatively, enjoy the dopamine hit whenever you get something stronger (works better in Custom-G due to 1.90.4's much slower progression, as GX's 2.06 will give you thousands of levels and godlies in no time)

[Anonymous No.]

>>36316956
there's no real reason not to just go with gx

[Anonymous No.]

>>36322679
there's the fact that it rushes so hard through the early game and it gives godly equipment and exp like candy, it doesn't give you any time to actually enjoy any of the content.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a retard; I've just started playing Elona+G and I have no idea how to pee; I'm stuck at wetting and I haven't been able to figure it out because my google-fu is weak

[Anonymous No.]

>>36323107
wetting just means that you don't need to drink more water, like "satified" and "bloated" with food.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36322935
excellent post
I thought I was the only person left to still see a problem with ano's new progression likely being his way of making sure you get to experience *his* content before ending your playthrough

[Anonymous No.]

>>36323185
There's also that one guy who requested a toggle for the old exp formula in the github so there's at least 3 of us,.
but yeah I hate the new progression, elona works best when it's slow paced since it's a comfy grinding game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36323185
>>36323239
idk, the early game gets pretty boring after a few playthroughs. There's not a lot of variation once you learn that gardening+farms is mandatory

[Anonymous No.]

>>36154340
Mods are often modular modifications, while forks are alternate development paths. It's probably fair to call forks mods though.

[Anonymous No.]

Just started playing gx and wanting to use companions for the first time, how do I designate a companion to cast spells and stay away from melee? I only want them to use ranged / magic
Do I have to wait till act 2 with that AP npc? I'm looking at this page and not understanding any of it except for the "teach a spell or ability" option

[Anonymous No.]

so how tf am I supposed to play NC? I think I want to try blacksmithing, do I play like elona+ or is there some other progression?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36322935
>>36323185
Isn't that a consistent issue with + variants since around 2 rather than something GX exclusive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36326037
Yeah, but GX hasn't undone it yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36326037
yeah it's a vanilla + thing, but the guy behind GX has already removed some + fuckery like the platinum cap I hope he can add the old progression.

[Anonymous No.]

>custom for 2.X released

[Anonymous No.]

>>36324305
pets come with their own AI which often just tells it to move towards the target and melee. it's part of the uniqueness of the pets that don't do that
your pic's menu or leold can override that

[Anonymous No.]

Who are some good candidates for an Astral Light Pen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36328775
Yacatect or Hyper Yacatect, for her high charisma.
No one better to run your shop for you.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it wrong that I don't want to worship Itzpalt despite him syncing with my build because he's not cute?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36324305
Read the instruction manual:
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/New_Features_in_Elona_Custom_1.51.4

[Anonymous No.]

Since the Granblue Fantasy music pack link is dead I decided to update it for the latest E+ C-GX.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ze73kjlsqycsepi/Granblue_Fantasy_musicpack_update.zip/file
The original was missing tracks for mcHome0, mcZangyou, and mcMelan. I skimmed through the code real quick and it seems like they're respectively for an alt home, a boss fight or battle event, and a town of some sort. Just decided to reuse tracks for them.
I don't know HSP though so if anyone has more info that would be great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36330303
No, there is nothing wrong with it. You are free to worship any god you like.

[Anonymous No.]

Just started playing this for the first time.
>Take quest
>No idea what I'm doing
>Told to kill nearby monsters
>One is a blade
>"You will die unless a miracle happens!"
>My pet little girl deals 54 damage compared to my measly 9 and minces the blade
This game is gonna be great, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>can worship luluwy
>can't worship her feet
and they said the possibilities are endless

[Anonymous No.]

>>36336274
If you've just started she'll be far stronger yeah. Have fun anon
I assume you're in Vernis, the starting town. Talk to a woman in a house near the top of the map, she'll give you a quest to enter the basement of her neighbor. There's 3 herbs in that basement on the ground that will increase your stats a little bit
Food is the primary way of getting stronger. Farming is OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>36336274
You've taken the first steps on a long journey. Be careful about getting into combat early on, though.

>>36336627
Astral Light Pen, then set a custom sleep-sharing action. Still endless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36300023
Should I play this or the new GX

[Anonymous No.]

>they seriously added a nonstop cicada sound in Palmia
Must be full trolling or basedlady and its zoomers due to new higurashi which is utter garbage for the record.
How do I turn off or remove it from Palmia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36336784
Flip a coin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36336793
>You will now hear cicadas in all towns other than Noyel during the months of July to September when the weather is fair.
Nevermind, it's everywhere. Ok, how I remove it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36336837
https://github.com/Ruin0x11/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/blob/b5008e386cb6ce0aa2ce4857b18c94e3d1ef37db/2.05-custom-gx/custom_tweaks.hsp
>TweakData(x, 4) = "Miscellaneous Tweaks"
>TweakData(51, 4) = "Disable cicada noises."

[Anonymous No.]

>>36336871
Serves me right. It's elona+, anon. I never gave custom a chance.

[Anonymous No.]

If I play in Japanese then E+CGX's cancerous machine translation won't change anything, right? I basically just want the Japanese Elona+ with game mechanics features from Custom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36336929
If you really want to stick to vanilla plus, you could probably replace the contents of the cicada sound file with silence or some less annoying ambience.

>>36337150
>If I play in Japanese then E+CGX's cancerous machine translation won't change anything, right?
Correct. I've been playing it in Japanese and none of the text is changed. Just be aware that as with any varient, if you switch languages mid-playthrough, then you are going to have a bunch of NPCs and items with names from the old language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36247886
Just brew them yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

opennefia when

[Anonymous No.]

>>36247886
On your next wish, wish for a happy bed. If you sleep on a good bed every night you'll get better potential ups.

Buy a farm, then do harvest quests for herb seeds.
After getting a good amount of herb seeds, spam grow herbs.

At 45 alchemy, you can literally make them in a pot for fusion. Just make sure you always harvest material spots in dungeons and collect resources from your pets if they have any skills that let them collect.

Do this and you'll power level like no tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36247886
Get a pet with the cooking skill and raise their relationship to soulmate.

[Anonymous No.]

Been getting an error that says "No DLL:hsplua.dll" when trying to launch GX even though the dll is in the directory. It's weird since I get this error on my laptop but not my desktop, and both are running the same OS with the same Elona folder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36343846
If you just copied the folder from one machine to another, it sounds like a windows defender thing.
Check if the DLL has been blocked by windows or was deleted. If I'm not mistaken, right-click file, proprieties and there should be an indication that it is locked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36343896
The dll isn't locked. I did a fresh install just to check and it still gives the error. Compatibility mode doesn't seem to help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36338895
Love how they didn't name it cicada or something.
Anyway, the files are elona/sound semi1, semi2, semi3, semi4 and semi5, not very sure about semi5 however it's probably part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36341080
>>36341176

i just beat Zoeme now at ~80 all stats, 110 cha. I already found a happy bed (didn't have to wish for it) but didn't get pet cooking since it just seemed to take too long to get to soulmate vs just investing in the magic vendors around my home and palmia. They're still scarce but oh well. I had the alchemy skill to craft them but couldn't find the materials, not even for a single pot

I had not one, but two farms. I also had 100+ gardening and 75 cooking skill by the time I got to zeome. Herbs and herb infused foods really weren't the problem, it was just keeping potential high.

[Anonymous No.]

It's ok to add a cicada sound but not in that raw loop way which is totally awkward and non immersive. Make it play for some seconds after you enter a town instead of letting it play continuously, this is what I was expecting the first time I heard it, put a notification for cicada somewhere and that would really serve the purpose.
The other alternative is to make it based on proximity thing around some corners of the town, letting it play low and loud depending. As it is right now, it's just baffling hideous and annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36344317
>I had the alchemy skill to craft them but couldn't find the materials, not even for a single pot

>In Elona+, pets can sometimes gather materials from enemies they kill if they have the appropriate skills that you find for gathering at sampling spots. You have to ask your pets for their materials.
^^^^^ from the Wiki.
If you give your pets all the gathering skills (Mining, Gardening, fishing, detection and gene engineering)
You'll be rolling in mats provided you just let them kill stuff.
I once asked my younger cat sister to hand over her materials and got 35 Angel tears in one go after letting her kill stuff for a good 2 sessions of play.

IMO its the best way to get mats. Then you can just spam potions EZ.

Also just letting them kill stuff raises your affection, so 100% invest in your pets cooking skill too.

Its honestly not hard to keep potential high if you're willing to invest a bit of time into your pets and their skills.

If it helps, you can also get potential potions by playing cards. 14 wins if you bet a single chip iirc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36344670
how many pets should I have? I only use one of my pets in dungeons

[Anonymous No.]

>>36344702
... and even then I rarely bring them out since they always seem to die. I make picnic baskets, use god pets, artifact and miracle equipment, etc. but they just can't keep up

[Anonymous No.]

>>36344702
Just harvested mats from my pet after like an hour of play
>pic related
>13 angels tear
>10 sap of yaggdrasil
>15 hot water
Good few potions of potential there.

>how many pets should I have? I only use one of my pets in dungeons
As many as you want provided they all have every one of the harvesting skills.
Its on a per-kill basis so it really doesn't matter if you let one pet do the killing or multiple.
I'd recommend two though, as there is a cap on how many mats they can carry and if you go dungoneering for a while two pets worth of mats should last you a good bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36330303
You can change his portrait to that of a cute girl, switch his tone file, and pretend.
Or go the extra mile and change his dialogue in the code.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36149522
>Using GIMP to create a sprite or PCC? Select "do not write color space" and save it as a 24-bit BMP.
What about just doing it in paint? It's far faster to splice some sprites onto the sheet using paint than it is dealing with photoshop.

[Anonymous No.]

Decided to pick Mutant instead of my usual Juere for a change.
Now that I don't have the slow digestion feat, how do I stop being hungry all the time? I can't eat a sandwich in the middle of a longer than usual boss fight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36344728
You can give blessed potions of potential and herbs to your pets too, power level the shit out of them while you're power levelling yourself and they'll become infinitely more useful. Picnic baskets are pretty shit for general leveling to be honest, they're only good for the speed and luck potential boosts.

Provided you use the pets to get mats and have a good herb farm you can make a loop of getting stronger and stronger, making more and more potions and then scale yourself and your pets to godhood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36336718
Is it okay to eat herbs early in the game, or should I be saving them? I read something about being able to combine herbs with foods for big stat gains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36344995
Two reasons:
>gimp is not photoshop, it's pretty damn fast to use
>you are not on window$, like me

[Anonymous No.]

>>36344702
One is plenty unless you want more.

>>36344728
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Easy_Gene_Engineering
Get your pet some skills, especially Pickpocket. If you need faster results give it some gemstones to sell for training money, but eventually Pickpocket will cover everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36344180
(semi refers to 蝉 which means cicada)

[Anonymous No.]

You know, I like what Beautify does with the characters, for the most part, but for whatever reason it has a real habit of tinting a bunch of the item sprites with this sepia that I'm not digging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36344728

Engineer Travelling on them. It'll give them skill XP to random skills and mats every time it procs. Also if your Gene Engineer is high enough you can catch/dominate/scroll of ally yourself some high level monsters to splice into your pets to give them more levels and thus more HP and MP.

If you're in Act 2 and they have enough AP go get the Barrier and Charm feats from Leold. The former lets their MP be another life bar and the latter will let the pet auto-Dim mobs that attack them making them miss more often, especially ranged mobs.

If you have access to Call Familiar and Coffins of Necromancy one thing you can do is send all of your pets to town, bring out some spooks, let them soften up the boss, then either remand them or order them to blow up on the boss.

Then use Call Familiar to call the pets back and finish the boss off.

You can have spooks and pets out at the same time so long as you don't hit the pet limit.

>>36345160

When expecting to fight something remember to eat food if you're not Satiated and not currently in combat. If you're playing Elona+ or a fork of it you can directly throw food on yourself to eat it in one turn; this can give you Dypsnea, if that happens you should Bash yourself to cure it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36350600
>If you're playing Elona+ or a fork of it you can directly throw food on yourself to eat it in one turn; this can give you Dypsnea, if that happens you should Bash yourself to cure it.
I've played for hundreds of hours but had no idea about this. Thanks for the tip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36336274
>This game is gonna be great, isn't it?
Yeah, kinda, sorta. That's just how the game is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36344995
>What about just doing it in paint?
Why paint on a canvas when you can paint on a thin sheet of paper?
Paint lacks the utilities and options needed. It has one or two functions and that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36345518
Yes, the first time you eat herbs raw they'll give you ~20+ to whatever stats they affect, after that it's 1-2.
Combining herbs with foods is more mid-game. You don't actually need to do it either, eating herbs one at a time is how I always play and I've gotten to late endgame. It's actually quicker it just requires more management

[Anonymous No.]

>>36350676
I already finished it in photoshop, but literally all I was doing was cropping some sprites from one sprite sheet and placing them on the other because I liked them better, not doing my own spriting or anything like that.

[Anonymous No.]

Coming back after a while and good to see this GX thing. Is there a beautify for it yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36352041
no but I just copied all my shit over. only thing so far that gives me the white untextured square of suffering is something called a "filtration bottle"

[Anonymous No.]

>>36352085
Ah, thanks anon. So just use the 1.99 beautify in the OP or is there a more updated version somewhere else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36352122
I think there's a slightly more up to date item.bmp, apart from that 1.99 is fine yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>36352205
Excellent. Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>36352041
How does that sepia tone the map files have work out in practice? Biggest thing that stopped me from using it was how the map tiles are less colorful because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36348395
I had my suspicions, but couldn't be bothered. Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

What does the filtration bottle even do?

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck do I get elona+ to recognize diagonal inputs on my gamepad, or, better yet, let me use the directional buttons?
The lack of documentation on this garbage is fucking infuriating. Why the fuck are teams of modders going to all the effort to set this shit up, but can't even spend a day putting together a user guide?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36355539
I normally insist on using a controller for everything but it's just not going to work in a convenient way for Elona seeing as the game requires you to use pretty much your entire keyboard including capitals and numpad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36355539
>>36357352
Not really, I've played to endgame using controller. Apart from diagonal movement and binding item's/spells to 0-9 keys, there's nothing else you're missing out on.
it's more comfy to play with controller desu and taking a hand off your controller to press a key real quick doesn't bother me

[Anonymous No.]

>>36355539
https://ch.nicovideo.jp/aomin/blomaga/ar185229
Try this or other hits for elona ゲームパッド斜め移動

[Anonymous No.]

new vid
https://youtu.be/AkwVW3UiAPg

[Anonymous No.]

>>36359164
nice
this style feels a lot more familiar compared to early elin's inn

[Anonymous No.]

B-But isn't it starting do look more and more like the m-mobile version?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36361285
Anon, that's some good stuff you are smoking right there, because it doesn't look remotely close to the mobile game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36355539
Couldn't you just map a button to alt for diagonal only movement?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36361285
>mobile
It has graphics that doesn't make my eyes bleed, other than that, nothing like mobile

[Anonymous No.]

>>36361442
>>36362373
I don't know~, I love vanilla elona.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any way to fix the sprites of mobs that are born at the ranch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36364137
Yes. Let them grow up. Milk helps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36359164
fuck I wish he'd just remake elona with these graphics

[Anonymous No.]

>>36364421
noa did mention eventually making a sequel to elona after he's done with elin
it could happen in maybe ten years if we're optimistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>36364761
Wonder if it'll follow on directly and we'll figure out exactly what that stupid ass book is good for, and who the Eternal League is. Or whether it'll just be another game set in another era later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36364761
I'll be fucking dead by then

[Anonymous No.]

How does a Claymore function long term as a battlemage? Are they going to drop off late game compared to warmage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36367317
No because they can just class change to warmage like everyone else. Even if they didn't, the only long term difference is the feat and it's not that big of a deal if you just want to roleplay as a Claymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36364954
Me too, but hopefully Noa won't be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36343896
Fuck, turns out I had to update Visual C++ redistributable for it to work.
>>36364761
Didn't he say Elin's Inn was his last attempt at making games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36375660
Only if it fails.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36364954
I'm already dead

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a damage penalty for remote blows? Also, can you remote dual wield? The wiki doesn't seem to have any details.

[Anonymous No.]

Would anyone mind sharing a interface.bmp please? Using Beautify currently but I'd like to switch it up for a change

[Anonymous No.]

>>36381322
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Ranged_Weapons#Elona.2B_changes
Distant Attack reduces damage by a percent. ...Or it did before the change to ranged damage modifiers. Not sure how it goes now, honestly.
I'm pretty sure a Distant Attack is a regular attack, so extra attacks and elemental damage and whatnot will still work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36354741
rechargeable way to restore thirst

[Anonymous No.]

How many hands is enough hands?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36385874
MA: 0 or all
2h: 1
magic: 1 or 0
ranged: all
rods: 0
spact: 0 or all

[Anonymous No.]

>>36387052
...oh, right.

dual wield: all
necromancy: 0 or all (alchemy/anatomy bonus)

[Anonymous No.]

>>36385874
one to headpat little girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>36387052
lots of hands all duel wielding swords is still worse than just a dedicated 2H right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36341176
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>36387629
Hasn't really been tested in awhile, but 2h is probably still better.

The main issues with dual wield are: no crits, so /3 damage. Lower hit rate, lower crit rate (because multi-hit lowers crits with each hit, even perception crits), combo chain penalty, lower damage of extra hands, and no 2h bonus.

The hit and crit rate used to be solved with time stop and invoke spam, but ano removed timestop crits. However you can ignore most of the multi-hit and combo penalties using continuous attacks, but, that doesn't proc many enchants. And it doesn't help the weaker crits. You can equip 200s weapon's you'll probably have a -hit rate even with capped stats.

Is the theory at least, but again, no one has really tried to make dual wield work since around the 1.6 range, and there are some interesting new things such as using that fancy new sword that can crit during time stop, and the easier time of adding invokes to weapons with fusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36393579
From my experience testing Continuous Attacks, it's *really* good. It'd certainly be the easiest thing to make work, you miss out on elemental damage and invokes but that also means you don't have to bother grinding sox and attribute scrolls for those things. Especially pertinent with dual wield where you'd be running multiple weapons and you'd need to get all of them set up.

That said, whether dual wield would actually be better than 2H for this is another question entirely.
Especially if you want to bring timestopping into the equation, since the Kalpa Hand is the only thing in the game that has the autocrit in timestop attribute, and it's already designed to be a 2H weapon.

[Anonymous No.]

I remember you could throw potions to the ground and they'd leave a puddle which could reveal invisible creatures. This was in Custom G. Did they remove that in GX?

[Anonymous No.]

I forgot how lethal early-game is, trying to dungeon delve at low levels without any good gear while waiting for something you can actually accomplish to appear on a job board is leading to a lot of deaths.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36395936
That has always been a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36395936
You can still throw potions, otherwise attack based alchemy would break. If it's not working, that's a bug.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36396277
Yes. Throwing potions still works but they don't leave a puddle anymore for me.

[Anonymous No.]

game's crashing whenever I do anything. I can't attack or flee (save loads during an assasins' ambush)

any way to fix this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36397144
I checked, it's broken in CGX.
Still works in stock plus 2.06fix.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36393579
>The main issues with dual wield are: no crits, so /3 damage. Lower hit rate, lower crit rate (because multi-hit lowers crits with each hit, even perception crits), combo chain penalty, lower damage of extra hands, and no 2h bonus.

Unless you play a variant that undoes all the nerfs to multiwielding, that is. Even the removal of the asinine combo chain system helps immensely.

>>36393795
>That said, whether dual wield would actually be better than 2H for this is another question entirely.

Powerful ranged weapon with Cold or Magic damage and lots of special ammunition, especially burst, rapid, and timestop. A living weapon adamantium ballista is very likely going to be your best choice if you can deal with the weight or can make it lighter; it hits really fucking hard with 40% pierce built in and its gauge attack is a guaranteed paralyze to boot.

Also good to give to ranged pets so they'll do damage with the occasional gauge attack.

And since it's more than good enough to use for just about any combat you are free to put tonfas/claws/shields in your hands for added damage/accuracy/defense. A PC with the Shield Tonfa and the Sealed Shield equipped is tanky as hell.

[Anonymous No.]

Ranch breeders count towards the ally limit, do they not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36402572
nah, i had like 10 cha and just had to wait an ally then put the breeder in before i could pick up my ally again.

[Anonymous No.]

Does the effect of a Vindale Cloak stack with an Elea's ether disease resistance?

[Anonymous No.]

I did a thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>36404741
Yes,but you will never be "truly" immune to ether disease,its only an issue early game anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>36401870
the multiattacking nerfs didn't make dual wield bad, it was bad before then. continuous attacks is likely the best way to make it work and that completely ignores the combo chain system

the current strongest physical attacking setup is a stone with enchanced throwingrock, followed by a laser gun. Ranged IS generally better than melee, I'm just talking about what the most effective melee setup is
you're also going to increase the weight as that affects both damage bonus and crit bonus (on a side note, fairy's inability to benefit from weight bonuses is another of the reasons they suck)

magic is still better than this, mind you

[Anonymous No.]

>>36404741
etherwind normally ticks from 5-20, depending on your speed. vindale cloak makes it always 5. the cloak doesn't affect any other ether source
ether equipment adds a flat +5 per piece of equipment to all ether ticks
elea is -33% to the final figure

[Anonymous No.]

>>36406174
based, very nice anon. might use this pcc for a pet run
could you do the male fire red/leaf green by any chance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36406798
i DID tried those,but they turn like shit when upscaled unless you can find me a good spritesheet

[Anonymous No.]

>>36406960
This is all I can find

[Anonymous No.]

Should I only ever use one weapon type when dual wielding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36408304
Yes,else you would need to work harder to train two type of weapons for no reason whatsoever

[Anonymous No.]

>>36407108
>>36407108
I am not sure if its gonna work because i just noticed the background of both is a different color somehow,try it out and tell me if there are any errors

[Anonymous No.]

>>36408335
Access to cool invokes from a few uniques was the reason I was thinking about, but it's probably not worth the trade in skill progression. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36409116
use living weapons,most artifacts are shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>36409178
I wouldn't dual wield if I was looking to optimize everything. Just looking to see if I can make lots of animations play each time I attack for giggles.

[Cat No.]

Are Negotiation builds a thing or is Empathy just a novelty?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36410683
i though you could get a bunch of bells with empathy and "Pacify" everything in the game regardless of equips

[Anonymous No.]

gi-ant and shoebill sprites scare me help

[Anonymous No.]

>>36411809
Use the monster girl ones then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36410683
Empathy is incredibly busted.
basically a screen-clear that all your pets can use too

that said, it doesn't scale too well since your "damage" increases linearly while enemy resistance and their max stamina are both increasing, but it can easily carry you all the way through act 3, it's just voidcap and awakened nefia where it really sucks.

that said, it can get boring

[Anonymous No.]

>>36411809
Replace it with that sprite that's just a photo of an actual shoebill so you laugh instead

[Anonymous No.]

What build should I do that isn't "farming-focused charisma petmaster that I tell myself I'm not going to roll and then immediately roll every time I start a new save"

[Anonymous No.]

>>36412233
sniper thief

[Anonymous No.]

>>36412233
I'm just doing a bog standard warmage myself, I last played Elona while Noa was still working on it when magic sucked absolute dicks so it's fun.

[Anonymous No.]

is independant feat good or are pets worth more than speed

[Anonymous No.]

>>36412444
Do you want to kill every enemy you encounter in the blink of an eye?
Or would you prefer to leisurely stroll through dungeons while your imouto runs ahead of you butchering everything in sight?
There is no wrong answer. Pick whichever sounds more enjoyable to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36406518
>the current strongest physical attacking setup is a stone with enchanced throwingrock, followed by a laser gun. Ranged IS generally better than melee, I'm just talking about what the most effective melee setup is

With ranged weapon + Shield Tonfa + Sealed Shield however you not only can deal a lot of damage with your ranged attacks to begin with but you have lots of physical damage reduction and high chance of damage negation from just two slots plus whatever bonus you get from your Shield skill. And both the tonfa and shield are fixed arts you don't have to grind (much) for.

With throwingrock you need to devote a staff with the throwing rock to a hand slot (giving up either the tonfa or shield), making you more squishy and less able to exploit the hatred ether disease or Fury status to crank up your damage output, not to mention you can't use special ammo, and ballistae has that 40% pierce and that useful gauge attack with guaranteed paralysis.

>>36406518
>you're also going to increase the weight as that affects both damage bonus and crit bonus

With more weight I won't be able to carry more consumables and loot. Fuck that, not everyone has 1200 Weight Lifting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36413616
You're underestimating the player's ability to survive and overestimating the value of those artifacts. Shield Tonfa is extremely valuable on a new character, with the 20 damage bonus and PV + damage reduction, but later on I'll often swap it out. Sealed shield I just never really use. Holy shield can already give you up to 1000 PV, and with a bunch of AP life the PC is already very hard to kill.

believe me when I say the throwingrock buff is worth giving up a hand slot. you can get a staff with the enchant very easily from the little sister quest
Also i'd consider the energy cell gauge attack to be the best, doing high damage and hitting everything in a line.

as for weightlifting, that's your loss. I'll enjoy my triple crit damage and 40 damage bonus in the meantime

[Anonymous No.]

a wall hack cheatah just dropped me the Rail Gun in the latest version of custom gx
i thought this thing was exclusive to Utima

[Anonymous No.]

>>36414848
>You're underestimating the player's ability to survive and overestimating the value of those artifacts.

You're missing the point. With Shield Tonfa and Sealed Shield with a powerful ranged weapon the PC can be very tanky without sacrificing his damage output, and in emergencies he can apply Fury to himself and/or his target to double or quadruple dps without much more risk - and yes he can layer Holy Shield on top of that.

Double Fury is like two thrown rotten tomatoes or a couple of spacts away. Add in massive tankiness and it's insanely good, and if you don't need the extra damage you can leave it turned off unlike the Brave and Obstinate traits.

>>36414848
>believe me when I say the throwingrock buff is worth giving up a hand slot.

No. You give up the hand slot and your ammunition slot, which means you can't use special ammunition, which means your rock can't timestop on a whim or pour rapid/burst attacks into a boss for lots of damage. For that matter, you can't use exploding ammo for pulping hordes of mobs or magic ammo for fragile but evasive little fucks like bats. It also means you don't benefit from any enchantments the ammo has, either.

>>36414848
>Also i'd consider the energy cell gauge attack to be the best, doing high damage and hitting everything in a line.

The crossbow gauge attack will paralyze its target regardless of resistance, and that makes it better for bosses. Forcing bosses to skip their turns is also very good for survival.

>>36414848
>as for weightlifting, that's your loss. I'll enjoy my triple crit damage and 40 damage bonus in the meantime

Critical multiplier maxes out at 4 stone according to the wiki, so there's no point having the ammunition be any heavier, and besides even if I had more weight limit I could always carry more special ammunition to keep up the timestop/burst/rapid attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

Getting the 'lose touch with the world' result from a well when you're too low level/skilled to fix your attribute potentials sure is fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36417355
You're gambling your soul in those things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36417360
Gotta get me boots, man. Big kick in the nuts though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36409114
Sorry for the late reply anon I was busy
It works perfect! Should be uploaded and added to the pastebin in OP

If you wanted to go the extra mile to make it complete you could also use the bike or bird sprites from here >>36407108 to make a pcc for when you've equipped a mount.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36414848
Shittiest part of using Medium Armor is how you can't take advantage of weight PV or damage bonuses desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>36417554
Have your little girl drink from them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36418732
Good advice, can't help me now though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36418578
I just unequip my weapon when I want to use magic equip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36419242
Viable, but I personally hate going in and out of menus unnecessarily. I always forget.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36417554
the boots haven't been optimal for many years, anon..

[Anonymous No.]

>>36419295
I haven't played in many, many years. What are you guys all using now? Also I'm willing to bet that whatever is optimal end-game isn't going to apply for me at level 8 running around gathering platinum extremely inefficiently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36419321
Right now you can buy a truck once you hit 100k or so for increased cargo limit and travel speed. You can also just head to yowyn and do the quest for the dali-a-thon.
Too much travel speed actually ends up being a bad thing, when you loop around the map and the shops and quests from the first town haven't reset yet, you have a problem.

As for what the optimal wish nowadays is, there really isn't one. Right now there's nothing game-changing you can wish for that you can't reliably get some other way. Shift cores are the only wish-exclusive thing in the game, so they're usually what people recommend. Secret experience of Kumiromi, an Astral Light Pen if there's an NPC you have your eyes on, the Manytia (https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Manytia_the_adventure_merchant#Old_War_Ground)) items, a guild exclusive skill, or even just a sandbag, eclipse/bubble ball rod, or panty. There's no single "best wish", just think about what you need and what'll get you there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36412233
stealth archer

[Anonymous No.]

>>36419441
You didn't mention dungeon, kinda rare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421301
You can buy dungeons in plus, they don't really do much though. Dungeons are only really useful in omake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421456
Jesus Christ, my memory... That hit like a truck.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do horses take such massive monster shits, goddamn. Had like 1000s of shit lying around after beating zeome.
I did make almost 100k just selling shit though, so that's cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36419441
>Too much travel speed actually ends up being a bad thing, when you loop around the map and the shops and quests from the first town haven't reset yet, you have a problem.

Do you have Traveling? Fast overland travel means you can fit in lots of Traveling procs in a given period of time, and that means lots of skill boosts for you and lots of skill boosts for all of your pets plus materials, if they also have Traveling.

And you get more leeway for any quest with a time limit, so.

>>36419441
>wish

The present is worth using a wish for. Toss it at a mob, mob suffers status effects, you and your spooks/pets go to town on it. And it's reusable healing for pets, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36422896
Travelling skill bonuses are based on distance not time spent travelling
and from the player's perspective the time spent travelling is the same regardless of your speed

[Anonymous No.]

>>36423525
>Travelling skill bonuses are based on distance not time spent travelling

...which means you can get more procs in the same amount of in-game time. Reading comprehension.

>>36423525
>and from the player's perspective the time spent travelling is the same regardless of your speed

From the player's perspective, if he gets a skill gain from Travelling then that's a skill gain he doesn't have to grind for or invest skill points in. The effect is even more profound for pets, who get skill gains (and sometimes to skills that are otherwise difficult to make a pet train in) AND materials for each Travelling proc they get, per pet.

Time spent Travelling is time saved for grinding other skills, and it goes much faster and arguably safer too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36423967
anon I don't think you know what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>36423967
>...which means you can get more procs in the same amount of in-game time
Not him but I don't see how that's important, it's not like you are being timed other than for escort quests, but time passing slower would make some things more annoying like getting to a town a shops not being restocked or the festival of jure taking longer to appear, ranches and shops also benefit from time passing faster.
I also don't really like the extra exp from traveling, it keeps potentials low and most skill can be leveled up without that much problem anyway.
The only real benefit I can think of is that you don't have to worry about taxes that much, but even those aren't really difficult to manage.

[Anonymous No.]

For a pure caster, is the Wizard or Warmage class feat better? Started as a wizard and found an early business card.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36424120
Warmages get a +5% to casting chance which pairs well with the medium armor you need to use Magic Equip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36424120
In general, warmage and thief are the only significant class feats

[Anonymous No.]

If I'm warmaging, is it worth bothering with Itzpalt since I can't use his staff, or should I just do Lulwy? I know Jure is also an option but I dislike the Defender pet's look and haven't been doing much healing.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to cast multiple spells in sequence? Like a macro to cast all my buff spells sequentually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36424092
>Not him but I don't see how that's important, it's not like you are being timed other than for escort quests, but time passing slower would make some things more annoying like getting to a town a shops not being restocked or the festival of jure taking longer to appear, ranches and shops also benefit from time passing faster.

If all you want to do is piss away your time then go fuck about in the abyssal castle. I like actually doing things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36426483
way to miss the point

[Anonymous No.]

>>36417900
sadly i dont think i can do much with that bird sprite,its only 1-2 frames and i dont think it fits in the character box,but i will keep it in mind in case i find something similar

[Anonymous No.]

>>36426531

Oh no, I get that some players want muh shops and ranches and shit to give them the goodies now and don't feel like doing something as simple as walking around on the world map to let time pass and get the might-as-well-be-free gains and mats that Travelling bestows, that's why the abyss castle exists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36428116
oh i'm getting troled

[Anonymous No.]

rushed job,tell if anything is wrong and i may correct it if i get in the mood,here is pidgeot and entei intended to replace vehicles or just use as pcc

[Anonymous No.]

the next custom-gx version looks like it'll be adding toggles for some of the powerleveling stuff that's been added in plus

[Anonymous No.]

>get confused by red dog
>drink potion to clear it
>immediately get confused again next turn
>LOL YOU CAN'T DRINK ANY MORE POTIONS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT THIRSTY
How do you deal with this shit on low levels without resistances and immunities? The fucking gray dogs are even worse, you can get paralyzed and go 100->death without getting a single turn to act.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36428351
you can throw potions at yourself and using them with t does this automatically

[Anonymous No.]

Any recs on where to put a house in North Tyris?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36428638
palmia

[Anonymous No.]

>>36428641
Right in the middle, eh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36428351

Wish for a present and toss it at them. non-boss mobs in general become way easier to deal with when they're paralyzed, blind, and confused at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

I've always been scared about doing something drastic to NPCs. What can you get away with?
What happens if you just kill a random guy in town? Will he respawn and forget about it, or be hostile forever? Will guards become hostile?

What happens if I use duel gloves on the king of Palmia and kill him to get his statue (or any other unique town NPC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36429657
do it and find out, I'll just tell you there aren't any permanent consequences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36429657
Why don't you just try it?
As far as I can tell, so long as there are no negative karma issues, just leaving town/dying resets their behaviour. I threw duel gloves at Shena on a new character recently and got fucking dumpstered, I later went back and initiated a fight with the Squeeze skill, she proved to still be strong enough to kill me, so I just ran and came back later and everything was cool. From what I've heard people respawn a few days after getting nuked so that's probably not much of a problem either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36429657
Use incognito for immediate effect.
I forgot if /jp/ allows abuse of spoiler.

[Anonymous No.]

I always start to falter around the point where you switch from simply grinding plat quests and need to start dungeon delving for items, spellbooks etc, even much lower level Nefias are weirdly lethal, probably because of the shit gear from stores 90% of the time stocking crap made of mica or paper.

[Anonymous No.]

https://github.com/Ruin0x11/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/releases/tag/2.06fix.2.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>36429901
just tried it
>20 days later
>STILL haven't fixed that they fucked up the item IDs and now some items have both wrong description AND broken on-use mechanic
pic related, same item (変憶結晶) in elonaplus.exe and elonapluscgx.exe (using filehost because /jp/ rangebanned me from posting pictures for some reason)
https://imgur.com/a/Wq5V5Q3
there's no way I'm touching this shit until this is fixed, if one item is has its item id shifted in the item database god knows how many are off

[Anonymous No.]

>>36429901
>Added a tweak to revert changes to the experience formula after Elona+ 1.90.
>Added a tweak to disable study day bonus skill experience.
>Added a tweak to disable the DESTINY feature and restore the chances of finding godly equipment.

Extremely based

[Anonymous No.]

>>36430055
o_o
Yes, I'm thinking based is the word here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36429995
The item IDs weren't shifted, only the descriptions. I just pushed a fix that corrects those.

And the memory converter thing was because Ano didn't define the effect ID correctly in the code. The latest version only applies the memory converter fix to newly created items since the effect ID is set on the item when it's generated. If it helps then I could just add a debug menu command that fixes the effect IDs of any broken items in your inventory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36429901
>Added marriage chat messages from the work-in-progress Elona source code.
What's that?
Also expanded tone files never ever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36430381
It means that if you have network features enabled, the game will broadcast a message to chat every time you marry someone. The feature was in Noa's source code release but wasn't included in 1.22.