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[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

These guys seem like they will be an annoying battle...
[ ]Declare war.
[ ]Ignore them and rescue Sounn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595133
Since you obviously do not care about points, the only merit is gaining their house bonus.
And maybe getting some decent dungeon fighters over the ragtug bunch you surely have.
I'd say rescue Shoun.

[Anonymous No.]

[x]Declare war.

[Anonymous No.]

Is score important?

[Anonymous No.]

Worth it if you want the characters. Not like you got any issues with losing points from taking time. Just make sure you get the captains to tell you how to defeat their leader or LOL.

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>3595157
Only for next game+.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595157
if you want to do some more things than finish each route in normal difficulty, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Finished my Ran points run yesterday so now I've got 81 points to spend on shit for my third play through. Obviously my first play through got me just the 5 points for completing the True Route though, ended on turn 113 or something.

This time I want to grab me all the Takeda and Mori commanders so this run is going to be lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595171
Doing Mori is easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595186
I did Mori and One-Eye in the same run. It was meant to be a Takeda run but fuck those guys and their not showing up ever.

I did get them in the next run, though.

[Anonymous No.]

It would have helped my first run if I understood that Operation permits let my big units auto take over crappy non-castle areas. Once I got them in the second run I have like three squads holding the enemy at bay and letting them take back some of the territory I didn't even bother attacking properly while I went around closing holes to hell.

The only problem with my Ran points run was the fact I didn't have good dungeon characters and barely levelled Rance up at all. So when I rushed the end of the route I got the end boss down to 250 health and ran out of actions with every commander and had to retry.

But hell, completing a 1 star Ran run in turn 70 I can afford to lose those 4 points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595133
Make sure you read the wiki article on how to defeat them, but otherwise, go for it.

They are easier than they look, especially with battle permits.

As well, here is a tip on capturing the girls: Make sure you let them take back one extra area after the battle permits, so that they have 2 areas in the territory under control. The girls only appear when you are attacking, never when you are defending. In this way you can farm their territories to capture them, before taking on their final castle after battle permit-ing the rest.

PS: I hope you knew to capture and raise up Kazemaru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595186

I imagine so, my main concern is more how to go about this run. I'll probably go Ran route again because it's pretty easy and lets me fuck about with the Shizmue family without all that Demon Army bullshit, downside is I don't want to expand both north and south at the same time but I also don't want shit being auto taken over.

I'll just have to be fast and maybe declare war on two easy opponents at once at times.

[Anonymous No.]

how much satisfaction i need to get a fourth action fan?

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>3595227
160

[Anonymous No.]

guys i just got to that part where Kenshin appeared to Rance for the first time..KENSHIN SO MOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595209
Mouri is easymodo. I would suggest this order: Hara -> Ashikaga -> Miko Institute -> Kenshin -> Around this time Tenshiism will declare, surpress them -> Surpress Houjou -> Mouri -> Takuga will probably declare war on you -> Tokugawa -> Declare on Takeda

Sweep through and pick up good commanders early, then take on Takeda. If you take the Houjou bonus, surpress them but leave one territory, hopefully you ought to have one or two battle permit-ready troops by this point so you can focus elsewhere.

Take out Houjou and do the dungeon on the same turn as, but before, you assassinate Shingen, so that although the fifth gourd is broken on the next turn you have already started the Ran route.

Afterwards, declare war on everyone else and sit around character clearing and waiting for the Takeda generals to be hired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595262
You don't understand MOE!

[Anonymous No.]

Mouri isnt easy modo, they have large sized units, decent stats and mouri ignores footman guard defense.

Chinu makes you auto lose the first battle you fight with her, teru fucks over whatever melee untis you have and kiku has that annoying habit of instant killing one of your commanders

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595475
I got through them in my First Game. They aren't hard at all if you take it slowly and use permits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595237
I'm past 200 Sat points and the option for the 4th fan still hasnt come up. What's going on?

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>3596293
Strange...I could have sworn that I got it at 150/160

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595304

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595262
MOEEEEE!~

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596293
try clearing another option like rance attack etc that is one time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596315
I'm pretty sure I've done that, and still isnt coming up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596337
Again. Just crossed Sat bonus 210 and still no 4th fan option. But it just added "recruit amazing old man" again. blah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595171
>all the Mori commanders

Don't you get them free of charge the second Mori is beaten?
Well, except for Motonari.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596374
I'm quite sure it's 260.

[Anonymous No.]

Which option lets you rape women?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595194
>Takeda
>not showing up ever
They only show up starting four turns after declaration of war.

[Anonymous No.]

Why the fuck can't I capture that Fucking Raccoon?

I hit him 3 times with light attack

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596435
He was talking about recruiting them for house bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596451
Noidea. I couldn't capture him either, so I just got Tokugawa and he came for free

[Anonymous No.]

Do these semi-generics have some kind of H-scene if you capture them all?

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>3596621
You get to their H-scene when you defeat Uesugi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596621
Katsuko and Torako have an H-scene right after you have beaten Uesugi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596621

You see one of them get fucked while the other watches when you conquer Uesugi. I've never personally recruited them though so I can't tell if they have another scene.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596630
>>3596635
Ooooh you're right, I completely forgot about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596621
Actually, you get the scene after destroying Uesugi, without capturing them. (You can't capture them before than anyway) That's all they have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596642
>that

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596374
It's a 2nd game bonus only.

[Anonymous No.]

what game is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596374
I'm fucking upset, it did appear for me at 160 when I was doing some fast forward without fighting in order to see some scenes, but now I reloaded, I tried again, and still no fourth fan at 170.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596713
dunno know i think /a/ knowz about it u shud ask there

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596713

Sengoku Rance, it only has about 30 threads per day on /jp/ all with the same fucking discussions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3595201

Why raise up Kazemaru?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596756
saw a picture that looked interesting on the homepage, never come to /jp/...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596463
So how do I capture tokugawa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596760
Need his clear for one of the one eyed girls clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596760
Because you need his Hibachi passive skill in order to capture Nogiku, which you need to learn how to defeat Masamune.

[Anonymous No.]

Why doesn't this game have a navy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596769
Because there is no sea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596771
There's no sea in Japan?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596756
Then what topic would you rather, Anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596756
Or 2 condensed threads and you are just hyperboling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596767
>>3596768

I see. I just rushed the One-Eyed house and with permits had conquered them in 3 turns. When it came to fighting Masamune I got lucky and had Sill use Fire Blast then Rance followed up with a Rance Attack which killed Masamune. I guess I'll get the One-Eyed bonus in my next playthrough, I still had no idea what I was doing in this run since it was my second playthrough and my first time doing the Ran route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596782
The JAPAN in Sengoku Rance is a floating Island. Learn your Ranceverse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596805
I'm still downloading the game, I apologize for my lack of knowledge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596822
You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596832
Fine...so no large bodies of water in Ranceverse. So, air force? I mean SOMEONE must have thought about it by now right? No flying beast riders at least?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596766
You capture that one always sleeping guy, talk with him two times, capture the area, chose the positive variant in dialogue during the fight. Be aware that you lose Senhime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596846
Nothing to fly on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596882
Is it worth it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596887
So much for Ace Combat Rance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596895
They are barley better than generics. But there are a whole lot of them. I use them as support characters. And they are kinda hilarious.
So tsun

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596895
Honestly, you should only capture them for clearing purpose, except if you're under two stars difficulty, you can keep them, but they're really not that good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596902
Hanzo's a raccoon in this game?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596918
A gay racoon dog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596930
AWESOME! But the whole Tokugawa family sucks compared to the others though right?

[Anonymous No.]

Aburako Dousan-chan's oiliness is a miracle of the universe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596940
They are strongest of the early game families.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596943
What does that even mean? And LOL! Mismatch!

[Anonymous No.]

Okay...complete noob here on Rance and just started playing. What should I focus on doing first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596930
FAAAAAAAAAAAAABULOUS

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596899
There are aliens though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596955
Getting a grip on gameplay. Just have fun and try to understand how things work. It's way more fun than asking about every single thing from /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596963
Aliens? You have my attention!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596955
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:Game_mechanics
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:FAQ

Do not follow this perfectly, just get some ideas of efficient gameplay.
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:First_Game_three_moves_in_thirteen_turns

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596955
Reading the Alicesoft wiki. Lots of times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596968
>>3596964
Many thanks! I've been looking forward to playing this for a while now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596965
If there are any aliens, come see me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596976
Away with you hethen!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596943
Oily H-scene was oily, but damn, it probably was the hardest one to get in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

So I've started my second game. I normally go for Zeth but I heard Leila was hardcore.
So I tried going Leazas.
Why does Kanami suck so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597117
Because she's here for you to use her as a battle permit ninja.

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>3597117
because she's a useless little ninja only good for her... nothing really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597117
Comes with lots of units(even when you have low NP and troop numbers) to be your Permit Ninja.
Plus, even with her low speed and levels, she is stupidly fast in both troop battles and dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597087

Wait, Dousan has an h-scene? How do you get it?

[Anonymous No.]

(Reposting from failthread.)

This shit takes fucking forever!

Any tips on what units to use in a seige?
Currently I am using 2 warriors 1 footman up front, 1 diviner 1 archer and 1 ninja in the back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597142
Posting exact team and opponents you face is more helpful.

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>3597136
No dude. She doesn't have a scene.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597117
She doesn't suck much worse than Rizna. Both have abysmal starting stats for a named characters. Rizna can't even do the single thing mages do - damage - right.
>>3597122
I like her panties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597142
>This shit takes fucking forever!
>Currently I am using 2 warriors 1 footman up front, 1 diviner 1 archer and 1 ninja in the back.
Do you have only one attacking team or something? If so, of course it fucking does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597145
Change Hakkin Dasan with Rance and that's my seige team right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597148
Rizna gives easy 10 Sat,A-Cutter helps for Battle Rating(all-attacks are few) and is effective against monsters and monks(so specialized use) and absolute magic defense means she is rarely hurt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597158
God, this is horrible. Even for a first game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597147

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>>3597163
I was turteling like fuck at the start.
I also didn't use the permits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597158
Take out Dassan, use Kenshin
Take out Niwa, put in Aoi.
Beating Tokugawa to get Senhime would help too.
God, this is a bad set-up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597168
Alright, Will try this.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>3597163
Better than mine, if I'm honest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596952
How is that a mismatch? I won that fight killing 4 enemy units and Dousan-chan lost less than 100 soldiers.
Guts armor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597161
>Rizna gives easy 10 Sat
Kanami isn't much harder.
>A-Cutter helps for Battle Rating
Ridiculously weak as a BR attack.
>effective against monsters and monks
Not with her stats. She needs a serious buff or a lot of troops. And other mages can use it instead of her.
Magic defence is good, but doesn't help that often. (only hojo and demon army)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597087
Best two scenes you mean.
Reposting for posterity:
First at Trust Rance bribes her by feeding her some toads, which are her favorite food, and while she's distracted Rance takes off her scuba gear, leaving her fidgeting in a plain school swimsuit. After that Rance breaks out the oil and lays down on a float, as Aburako shyly gets Really Oily. The subsequent full body massage Rance gets as Dousan-chan's oily little body slides across Rance's broad back is one of the hottest scenes in the game.
And if you manage to get her to love Rance gets to douse Dousan-chan in oil and slowly peel off her skintight swimsuit, revealing the lithe bronzed perfection that is her shimmering naked Really Oily body. She's too small to take Rance, so she gets Extra Oily and Rance places his hyper weapon between her thighs as she crosses her legs and whimpers as he takes her intercrural style and clears her character.
I want to believe. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597167
It's pretty bad even for that. You missed pretty much all named characters and this is ridiculous.
>>3597180
You are Suigin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597186
Actually, no other unit in the game has the attack.
Shizuka and Magic have WDB.
And even with minimal damahe, all attacks chip away, and are useful for guards.
And immunity to magical attacks gives her a nice specialized focus.
And her +10 Sat was not comparing her to Kanami, it's a nice thing to get regardless.

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>3597158
FOR FUCK SAKE. DISMISS THE FUCKING ARCHER.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3596965
At least go full image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597193
>Actually, no other unit in the game has the attack.
I wasn't talking about this attack, but in general. WDB is way more useful on the grand scale, so giving buff to other mages. There are other units for chipping away enemy defence and BR, having her for that is kinda stupid. She is way too slow and weak for anything, other than sending her with Demon Kentarou against DA. And that's almost cheating, possible only in some endgames

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597213
She is a mediocre unit, not a bad one.
Since she gives Sat and you get her if you want stronger units, utilizing her with a couple books and extra units is not a bad idea.
Good to fill in commander spots in most playthroughs where you do not have a shitton of House bonuses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597213
> so giving buff to other mages.
Is a better idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597180
>>3597163
What the hell do you guys do on your first playthroughs? I just dug up the old save and, well, it's awful, but not as bas as >>3597158

Here's my commander list during the last turn of my first playthrough. Didn't use the Alicesoft wiki at all (no 3rd fan in 13 turns, etc... I just played the game how it went)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597180
>>3597158
What the hell do you guys do on your first playthroughs? I just dug up the old save and, well, it's awful, but not as bas as >>3597158

Here's my commander list during the last turn of my first playthrough. Didn't use the Alicesoft wiki at all (no 3rd fan in 13 turns, etc... I just played the game how it went)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597233
I did about the same, except I had a primary core of 6 commanders who were 1.5x as strong as your strongest units basically. But I also took almost 120 turns.

[Anonymous No.]

DA just showed up, am I fucked?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597194
Don't hate Niwa, he hasn't done anything wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597218
>She is a mediocre unit, not a bad one.
She is a mage that can't do the mages job. That's bad. She is barely okay for the beginning.
>Good to fill in commander spots in most playthroughs where you do not have a shitton of House bonuses.
Only in the very beginning. You can always get a better commanders to fill her place. I use her quite a lot, but I'm not going to pretend that it is a good decision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597250
The mage units do not really have killer stats, and Absolute Magic defense is useful regardless.
The fact that she is mediocre means she is still much better than many, MANY units in the game.
She is not a BAD choice to keep, there are just better ones (though in certain routes, recruitment of units becomes much more of a hassle, and unless you have house bonuses, she should fill in).
Better than archer units, for sure(except Yamamoto of course)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597270
>MANY units in the game.
Generics don't even count. Named characters, only few early game ones.
>Better than archer units, for sure
There is only one named archer unit other than Yamamoto. That's not hard to do. At all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597277
Generics do count.
If you only use UNIQUES, you cannot spread out forces for a very good part(and some generics are better than quite a few unique counterparts).

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597277
Are Archer units worth using in this game or should I just zerg rush everything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597289
Definitely worthwhile, especially with stuff like reinforced bow attack which can be used to deal out pain to things in the back row that would otherwise annoy you throughout the battle.

[Anonymous No.]

wow what game is this

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597289
No.
Only Yamamoto Isoroku is good.
Zerg rush is not good either.
Remember to have equal numbers of FRONTLINE and back row units.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597289
Hara's Volley move is amazing when combined with a monk to give him another shot of it.
Isoroku's Yamamoto Sweeping Fire is also very good. It hits both units in a row and can not be guarded against, while costing only one action.
But other than those two, no, archers generally are not worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597302
Subtle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597284
If you don't use only unique characters, there is something ridiculously wrong with your game. It's really easy to fill the roster with named characters and there is never enough place.
>(and some generics are better than quite a few unique counterparts).
2 semi uniques? 3? Dousan, Special cannon (ffa only), who else?
>>3597289
Archer units are horrible, except for Yamamoto, because of her instakill skill. Other kinds of artillery are generally useful. Tulips can deal great damage, ninjas have instakill and can break enemy caster chanting, casters deal good damage (BR and normal), have guard ability but ridiculously slow for the most part and need protection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597306
So, once I get those two I can ignore every other Archer unit and focus on the other teams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597306
>Hara's Volley move is amazing when combined with a monk to give him another shot of it.
Unless you give him +100 sword, the damage is rather pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone bother to use musketeers? I never bothered: high cost to recruit/replenish, and often their one shot didn't do as much as a decent warrior unit with more attack flags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597313
So basically, aside from two secial cases, Archers are the worst support units in the game. Right? Noted...that saves me some grief.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597313
Kuge motherfucking Kiyoko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597313
And here I thought I could just flood the field with arrows like I did in Heroes of Might and Magic. Oh well...

[Anonymous No.]

Pity more ninjas can't get Chun Chun Shuriken; that's one of the best attacks especially when dealing with diviners and the like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597313
You cannot recruit Uniques constantly. and fill up the roster instantly.
You can EVENTUALLY, but rather than having open space for no reason, better capture/recruit people, THEN replace them (and earn some money from dismissal).
And there are footsoldiers, ninjas, diviners, two monks and a couple other non-Uniques that have good stats, a few nice skills and even commander levels.
Dousan and the Shimazu Gunner are top tier and Omachi tier respectively.

[Anonymous No.]

I've gotten generics with lv60+, good for dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

where can i get a decent torrent of sengoku rance?
the one in TT is 3gb while it's 1.5gb in hongfire

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597324
>Anyone bother to use musketeers?
Yuzuhara is great, due to her instakill chance. Give her working bee, and she is one of the best units in the game. Shimazu brother is really nice. Tanegashima is okay, but I don't like him a whole lot. Generics are all horrible, save for Special Cannon accessible in FFA for Shimazu.
>>3597325
Pretty much, yes. You don't have a whole lot of choice with them.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the ninja girl from Leazus (Kaname?) any good at all? She's got much crappier stats than Suzume.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597328
Protip: Don't fall into the trap of thinking this game is like any other TBS you have ever played.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597342
Useless, only good for her sex appeal. And high troop count to put a Battle Permit on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597340
Ah, ok. I got her very late in the game and never really bothered with her, since my warrior units like Rance and Kenshin had been stat boosted like crazy and had nearly 2k troops. Saw no point in dumping a crapton of money into a unit with one shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597343
Gotcha! Then again, no other TBS game I've ever played has characters that get have H-scenes so...yeah...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597342
Clear her then fire her.

[Anonymous No.]

So like im at the part after i rescued Kou hime.I cannot attack other countries so what do i do at the moment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597345
I just finished my first playthrough today, and never really used the permits much. Should have used the ninja one on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597337

Get the hongfire one

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597327
That makes 3, and she isn't even that great . Nice amount of moves and asset tech, but that's all.
>>3597332
>You cannot recruit Uniques constantly. and fill up the roster instantly.
>but rather than having open space for no reason
You are forgetting about NP.
You can recruit uniques to constantly have your NP filled to the limit, easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597357
believe it or not this game has text for a reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597363
Any difference between them?

>>3597337
Oh...and Fakku has the whole installer package and english patch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597358
Permits make the game ridiculously easy and fast. I only use them for point runs or when I'm bored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597370
NP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597342
At least read the goddmn thread, the same question has been asked a few posts up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597370
Not really, no.
Unless you have many house bonuses, you cannot spread your forces early on unless you hire generics, if just for the sake of defending.
Especially in 2 star and above.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597386
National power. Basically, army size limiter. Every territory in the game has a set value which you can develop (useless, it's better to conquer more), and every unit costs some. If you go past the limit, you can't hire more and you lose 25% of the money you get every turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597400
Aside from the challenge, is there any merit to be had on playing the game on higher difficulties?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597408
Points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597408
Points. 5 star runs are the best way to get them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597407
Oh...so it's upkeep then. Any tips on when developing is better as opposed to conquering and vice-versa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597412
>>3597414
And points do what exactly? Sorry, complete noob here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597407
Going over the NP limit doesn't prevent you from summoning hannys in FFA though; despite the income disadvantage, I was way over my NP for a good portion of the game and was fine.

[Anonymous No.]

Suck it, Takuga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597400
>Not really, no.
Yes, really yes. Because this is exactly what I do, and I only use 2-3 bonus characters or one house bonus *at most*, and they eat up the NP bought by bonuses. Defending can be ignored for the most part, permits and war delaying saves ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597422
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:2nd_Game_bonuses

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597418
Pretty much never. Developing leads to turtling and enemy size grows when you turtle. The enemy actually scales, so army size is not that important. It only helps you to survive longer, and troops get less additional damage with each troop past certain (1/2 from norm after 500, 1/4 after 2000) unit numbers. What important are stats and special abilities of your characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597432
It would've been pretty embarassing if you had lost that battle, considering the army you seem to have.

[Anonymous No.]

Think I'll be able to break 350 points? I've got all the Treasures except the Gumo one and I've got a ton of females sitting in my prison so there's going to be a point/clearing orgy once I take out Masamune.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597432
Already 9999 commanders at turn 42? Just how hard is 5 stars? Man, I think I'm not doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597487

no, you'll get 260 at best

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597494
Takuga just has an insane modifier to their troop count. Shimazu's at around 5-6k for foot soldiers and about 2/3rds of that for the other units.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597499
Not so good at math, are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597505

ask yourself that genius

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597499
around 300 sounds more probable. Chara clears + points should give him something like 116. Masamune, treasures, 30k troops should give him at least 20. 300 girls and orochi are probably out of his reach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597511
>>3597505
119 (29 double clears) + 30 (objectives) + 12 (carnival) = 161 "unseen" points, so you'll probably have about 310 or so since it'll take about 20 turns to get all those characters up from hate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597530
>12 (carnival)
He probably won't get that much from carnival. It only happens every 10 turns after all, and I'm pretty sure it only starts after 60 turns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597545
Almost certain it's every 3 turns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597561
Checked, it's 4. My bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597586
I want to note that I only saw it at the end of every 10 turns before, always. Ridiculous coincidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597602
We were both more right than Mr. Doesn't-Capitalize, so we're ahead of the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597530
Objective-points aren't unseen. They show up in your ongoing tally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597632

everyone who commented about carnivals used caps. also

>>3595133
>>we're more right

what are you? 5?

[insanezero !VUNofZD8jM No.]

So, what's the best approach for this 1-star Ran run? I declared war on Takeda since I didn't have enough negotiate last turn to wage war on Tokugawa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598058
Bad idea. Reload the save now. Takeda will fucking crush you.

What you will want to do is, declare on Uesugi. They are piss easy to take since fielding Rance when Kenshin is in the same battle results in an autowin, up until Sado. Recruit Kenshin and Ai.

Then, declare on Tokugawa and acquire Senhime. And possibly Houjou for Daidouji and Ran. THEN you ought to have a chance at Takeda.

Also, WHY OH WHY did you not recruit Natori?

[insanezero !VUNofZD8jM No.]

>>3598098
Because I captured her just last turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598102
Fair enough.

[博麗 霊夢 !1rAyMooPLc No.]

Who should I kick out for Kazemaru?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598269

just clear the game and get it over with

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598269
I would probably kick out the footsoldiers with 2 action points or with shitty overall stats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598269
If you've cleared Yukihime, get rid of her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598269
Yukihime obviously. Have you cleared her? That's her only purpose, or rape to get +5 Sat

[Anonymous No.]

Can I find the Emperor Sword and Headband in routes other than Kenshin?

I'm considering giving the Ring to Yuzuhara, thus getting two shots for her. But I dunno if just two shots is worth it. Y/N?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598302
Personally, I usually give it to Yamamoto to spam her Whirlwind shot, but Yuzuhara is probably a better choice since she does damage as well as the chance to take out the commander.

I don't know, it just feels like Whirlwind has a higher chance of success than Aim and Shoot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598318
It does, but Aim and Shoot does decent damage too.

[Anonymous No.]

Are the textbooks you get from the levy random? If they're set, which countries gives speed texts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598374
Attack -> Defence -> Intelligence

No Speed textbooks from levies, unfortunately. You will have to get those from other means (randomly from attacking or defending, random dungeon drop).

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598421
Damn. Well, looks like my Super Rance will only have 5 for speed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598447
>>3598421
And the worse thing about that is that EVERYONE needs speed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600308
You can skip on giving speed to mages and musketeers. Nothing can help them.

[Anonymous No.]

Just cleared Omachi, but she has no sex scene...

What the deuce is going on?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598302
You can find emperor sword (you probably get it randomly in dungeon, I got it somewhere in Hades), that's for sure. But I think you need to unlock Orochi dungeon. Natori says that judging by legends, you can only harm Orochi with this sword and I was able to find it soon after that event.
>>3598318
>I don't know, it just feels like Whirlwind has a higher chance of success than Aim and Shoot.
Aim and Shoot always seemed more effective to me. But it works better with Bee. Yuzuhara doesn't need all the stat bonuses from the Emperor items
Leila and Yamagata are priority characters for them, I say. Allows to maximize their effectiveness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600346
Alicesoft trolls you, baby.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any way to execute or rape prisoners out of jail? Or is recruit or release the only way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600346
Look harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600435
I already know I missed something, smartass, but I have no idea what it might be.

I thought I did every event for all the members of the One-Eye house.

[Anonymous No.]

kenshin is basically saber in rance-verse.
IN CASE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE THE STAGGERING PARALLELS ALREADY

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600457
You're so gullible, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600464
I prefer to think of it as being hopeful.

If there actually is no Omachi scene, I'm going to murder the president of Alicesoft in cold blood.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>3600461
Rance is Gil?

[Anonymous No.]

I never have problems filling up roster with uniques.

Taked and one eyed bonuses take up a lot of space already, then you have uniques like natori, uruzu, etc. Shouldnt be a problem to make at least 2-3 battle groups quickly, the problem is getting enough troops, as its quite hard to make money in this game.

Other than ending turns a lot while not fighting, you have to get lucky with headfish hunts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600483
and xavier is angra mainyu taking over nobunaga(sakura)'s impaired body.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600483
And Ai is female shirou.

[Anonymous No.]

How the hell do I remove that fucking cat that adds one troup each turn from my unit?

[Anonymous No.]

Gunagan is taiga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600499
You don't

[Anonymous No.]

Ugh. Kenshin's route is awful. It's like some kind of passive aggressive mishmash of bullshit boring defense and TRAINING EPISODES, STRIKERS STYLE.
Then you get to the end and have to do an absolute bullshit fight that depends almost entirely on the RNG making the boss choose one move over another enough times to be possible. Failure results in grinding through 5-10 minutes of unskippable dungeon crawling. And I thought the Isoroku route was bizarre for having insane storytelling and peglegged childbirth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600511
I liked the 56 storyline. Plenty of trolling and teeth grinding moments, told pretty well

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600510
Fuck this crap.

That fucking sucks, worst item ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600519
I didn't like it from the start due to who has to die to start it. Then you go immediately from that into crazy shit, then what was I think 8-9 turns of being gimped to 1 action fan, so you couldn't even really break up the soap opera to play the game or interact with other characters.

[Anonymous No.]

so where can i find the runaway Yukihime?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600522
Just put it on a shitty character that you've cleared, or who is necessary but is really bad in battle.
Like Fuuka. I cleared her one time and ever since then she is my cat mistress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600532
Get her dad to trust you ASAP, like blow all your items on him. Then do the search event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600530
right, but the story and development (DRAMA, even) behind it is fully solid. I raged at that cursed bitch full force.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600539
Yeah, but then you get to the end and peglegged childbirth and the ridiculousness of the situation wipes away any believability or interest with a blast of cartoony nonsense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600532
Recruit father. Raise to trust. Enjoy having +1 National Power to all of your countries. Recruit daughter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600545
As an addendum to this don't rape her when you get the chance. Well, do it if you've cleared her previously, that way she'll dismiss herself and you'll get SAT. She's pretty shitty in battle, both field and dungeon, and she comes with Merchant IIRC, so you can't even EGP her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600544
I'll admit that the peg-leg end was a bit "LOL WOT", and completely unnecessary as well as pointless (since it adds nothing to her empathized meter because it was fucking full already, goddamn) but the real denouement of 56 sending her son with 80k troops to help rance is pretty awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600552
Like many units, if you take the time to raise her int (+2 is enough), she's actually a decent miko. Also she comes with many troups. Still useless in dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600556
oh come on guys have mercy on the spoiler

[Anonymous No.]

The most annoying part of this game is how only one beginning of turn event can occur.

It takes FOREVER to get soun because you can only get him after you get on a route, and all the story events push it back.

I wish i knew how to hack this game so more than 1 beginning of turn event event could occur in one turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600565
She also needs to be given Healing Mist. After that she can function as an average back. But given most players (after their second or third game) will be undertaking the Orochi challenge and playing efficiently they'll likely avoid interaction/use with Fuuka excluding 3 countries SAT bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600567
sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600578
She comes with healing mist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600582
Oh, sorry. I thought you were talking about Fuuka. Yukihime does come with Healing Mist. But she suffers from no EGP and with 1 attack and no miko storm she can't do anything but heal or standby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600589
That was her role in one of my previous playthroughs. I used Yukihime only to replenish my units after some hard fights, you can save some precious money in the times you need it the most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600614
Just cheat for gold.
fuck year memory injection.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

So I started a new game to rape the maids, but before i manage to beat Takeda and Mouri either of them get allianced with Shimazu.
Is it even possible to get them both in Ran's route?

[Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx No.]

Hmm I think I'll start trying to play this.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I beat takeda with just hannys?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600818
Leave them until later. Neutral them, smash everything else in the surroundings (Hojo is easy with Hannys; you've probably already taken it), boost your forces, get some non-Hannys, smash Takeda.

[Anonymous No.]

Is FFA any good?

can you recruit non generics of other nations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600828
I took over Houjou and furry Kingdom. Now I have neutral one-eye AND takeda all the time.

Fucking Rance is pissing me off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600798
be faster, like... way faster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600798

In my current game I went for Mouri before I went for any of the other big houses as my third gourd. Now I plan on going Houjo for the Ran route as my fourth and from then on I'll probably rush Kenshin as my fifth and then do the dungeon for Ran before I finish Kenshin off. I already did the cursed faction with the Mouri in order to get their leader and family bonus, so all I'll have left when Ran route starts kicking in is Iga, Takeda and One Eye. I'll probably hit up Takeda before the guys start pounding on me from the east... oh wait, I'll probably need to hit the kids faction first, but that'll be quick.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>3600853
But I declared war on them like 20 turns earlier than I did in my previous game...

[Anonymous No.]

Ok i cleared Yukihime's dad character but i still dont see any option to search for Yukihime..am i too late?

[Anonymous No.]

Good fuck!

My Hanny kingdom got attacked by Oda, Nazis, and Natori.

God hates hannys ;_;

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>3600879
Did she get another country to declare war on you?
If she did, you are too late.
>>3600869
I guess I will start a new game now OTL

[Anonymous No.]

Just wondering, how am I supposed to kill Byakko?
I am having a hard time...
Losing feels bad man ;_;

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>3600900
Level up doing dungeons like the motherfucking fist of the north star.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600798
You should be starting fighting Mouri around turn 16-17. At least that's what I did on my first one star run, with only 19 starting points (started with the third fan, elina and the commander's staff). I had no problems at all with anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600900

Personally I just delayed attacking until I did a bunch of dungeons then got a bit lucky. For the first run when you aren't prepared he can be bitchy as all hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600895
It's not too late to get yukihime - I thought it would be too late when she got uesugi house to attack me, but after I beat them and got asakura yoshikage cleared, I had the option to search for her.

... I did it just to see what would happen, but she's a pretty worthless character, like every other miko except Natori, so I decided to leave her alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600922
>like every other miko except Natori

Excuse me Sir, but you should capture the maids of the Mouri family and try Chinu before you say bullshit like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600905
>>3600916
But guys, I feel like a loser !
I have done already 188 turns and sat. 240. 400k gold, also I seem to be the stupidest, I got into a vassal with Iga family and Asai Asakura family, also Uesugi-chan is attacking me but still not attacking me like an enemy.
Help ;_;?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600932
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:Walkthrough

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600936
Thanks...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600932
188 turns? Sounds like you're not going for points. Why not just lose and take the point loss to weaken him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600900
>>3600905

I didn't do more than pretty much the required dungeons. The required captain fights were tough, but you get a bunch of the level up candy if you focus on capturing enemy captains and release them 5 at a time. So you just grab the one-eyed house (especially dokuganryu and omachi), uesugi kenshin, and any other strong ally you can find, make sure to give them good items, and they'll win any tough fight for you without leveling. Give candy to Rance, but if he's still under-leveled you have Omachi for a lot of Guard Shikigami.

Also pick up Himiko, a Miko Institute captain, since she has 6 actions and Convert Action 2 - it's like having a second Dokuganryu in boss fights since she gives two actions at a time. Just wait til they run out of actions before having her convert, so you can use their power attacks.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>3600932
Release people from prison and get Happy Porokkus.

[Anonymous No.]

What the hell, you have to be in the True History route to see Agireda's H-scene? That sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3601051
I think you can in Isoroku's route too, but it's a bit harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3601062
Well, if you know anything, I'm interested, the Wiki doesn't say anything about that, except that she can be captured in the 56 route.

[Anonymous No.]

So, who is the best in each jobs? i.e Warrior, Ninja, Foot Soldier, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3601089
There isn't such a thing. Many classes have three, four, even five top tier units. Of course some will tell you "X" is my favorite, he's the best, etc, but no, it's only a matter of personal taste.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys I have some questions about Ran's route that the walkthrough didn't answer directly.

1. After you rescue soun, how many turns will it take for Mouri to join Shimazu?

2. Pic related, if I isolate Mouri from Shimazu, will I stop Shimazu from taking Mouri?

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>3601149
>if I isolate Mouri from Shimazu, will I stop Shimazu from taking Mouri?
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3601193
Alright, thanks for answering the 2nd question.

[Anonymous No.]

How much turns does the 56 route take, approximately? Because I have reached 70 and I'm starting to wonder.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, do character clears count toward your score even if you kick those characters afterwards?