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JUST FINISHED FATE HF ROUTE.

WHAT THE FUCK?

WHAT THE UNHOLY FUCK?

SO WE HAVE TWO PROBLEMS THAT CAN BE SOLVED WITH THE HOLY GRAIL (ILYA DYING AND SAKURA BEING A WHORE) BUT THE GRAIL GETS DESTROYED.

WHY THE FUCK DID SHIROU DESTROY THE GRAIL? WASN'T THIS WHOLE ROUTE ABOUT SHIROU DISREGARDING HIS DESIRE TO BE A SUPER HERO AND TRYING TO ACHIEVE THE HAPPINESS RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM? INSTEAD HE FUCKING DIES AND GETS TURNED INTO A SOUL DOLL, SAKURA STILL HAS SOME KIND OF MONSTER SEX APPETITE AND ILYA GOES AWAY. YOU KNOW WHAT HE COULD HAVE DONE? TAKE THE GRAIL, USE IT'S JESUS POWERS TO FIX SAKURA, TURN ILYA INTO A REAL GIRL AND GIVE THE REST OF THE NIGH-INFINITE POWER TO RIN WHO COULD DO SHIT WITH IT.

DESTROYING THE GRAIL IN THE FIRST ROUTE WAS UNDERSTANDABLE, BECAUSE SABER WANTED IT. NO ONE GAVE A FUCK ABOUT THE GRAIL IN THE SECOND ROUTE SINCE IT WAS SHIROU AND ARCHER BEING GODDAMN AWESOME BUT THE THIRD ROUTE IS DIFFERENT, EVERY BODY COULD HAVE BENEFITED BUT INSTEAD WE HAVE THIS PISS POOR HAPPY ENDING THAT REALLY ISN'T HAPPY. FUCK THAT SHIIT. FUCK THAT SHIT RAGE. CRUISE CONTROL BITCHES.

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>> No.3584343

>he cares about Type Moon

>> No.3584346

>>3584339
No one ever said Nasu was the greatest writer ever. No one even said he's good.

>> No.3584347

You didn't pay attention did you?

As long as the grail was impure, it couldn't bring anyone happiness.

>> No.3584348

There was nothing to be done with the grail.

It's like a huge ball of CANCER and AIDS.

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>> No.3584350

>>3584339
The whole point is that the Grail is not working that way, hence they destroy it in every route.
As a wish granting machine, it's worthless.

>> No.3584351

>>3584339
with angry nigger in the grail it couldn't grant wishes besides his. WHICH WAS TO GIVE BIRTH TO THE ULTIMATE EVIL.

>> No.3584354

The Grail is a magical nuke, it grants wishes by destroying everything until the wish happens.

>> No.3584362

>SO WE HAVE TWO PROBLEMS THAT CAN BE SOLVED WITH THE HOLY GRAIL (ILYA DYING AND SAKURA BEING A WHORE) BUT THE GRAIL GETS DESTROYED.

Because the following

>WHY THE FUCK DID SHIROU DESTROY THE GRAIL?

Angra's presence in the grail corrupts any and all wishes made to it. Also, using the grail at that point would unleash Angra onto the world, pretty much defeating the point of saving the two you mentioned.

>> No.3584366

>>3584339

You realize that this wasn't the first time the grail was destroyed before it could grant a wish, right?

>> No.3584369

>>3584347
Bullshit. As long as the grail was impure it'd grant the wishes through violent means. Pay attention.

>> No.3584377

The grail can't grant wishes because it's too busy granting Avenger's wish.

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agreed
>HF

>> No.3584391

IF YOU ARE PAYING ATTENTION, THE GRAIL CAN'T SOLVE SHIT!!

>> No.3584399

The grail only grants wishes by blowing shit up. Kotomine needs "a distraction to buy time"? Incinerate the fucking city. Kiritsugu wants "a peaceful world"? Fucking kill everyone.

And even if it COULD be used, Ilya was fucked anyhow, since she can't both act as the foll-blown grail and survive the process.

>> No.3585413

>>3584339
>PROBLEMS
>SAKURA STILL HAS SOME KIND OF MONSTER SEX APPETITE
what

>> No.3585419

>>3585413

Was it really necessary to bring back a dead troll thread?

>> No.3585434

>>3585419
You consider this trolling? How weak.

>> No.3586295

>>3585413
Better problem then, Sakura is Barren and can't bear Shirous children.

That would be a problem to both her and Shirou, which they both would likely want solved in some way.

But hey who knows, MAGIC! could probably fix it without the grail.

>> No.3586311

Pay attention.

The grail is corrupted. Kotomine spends an entire paragraph explaining it. It's like the genie in a bottle, it grants wishes by twisting what you say around.

If you wished for it to solve world hunger, it'd kill everyone in the world so the animals have more to live off of.

>> No.3586330

>>3586311
I am not OP, nor am I contesting your point, but I have a question. Wasn't that just because Angra Mainyu was in it? Ergo, were he not in it, it would have granted wishes as the wisher intended?

>> No.3586337

Reported for shitty VN.

>> No.3586340

>>3586330
It's only purpose was to open a path to the root.

>> No.3586341

>>3586330
Yes. Yes it would.

Only theoretically, of course; every Grail War got fucked up by somebody, so it's never actually worked.

>> No.3586342

whoever made those grail war rules and rewards is fucking troll. oh well.

its all good.

>> No.3586347

>>3586340
I was under the impression that the root was only a shitcrapload of magical energy, and it was Avenger who turned it against humanity.

>> No.3586357

>>3586347
The grail is a shitload of energy, made up of souls of heroic spirits. At the end the souls are released and return to the root, a path is substantiated through that. Reaching the root is how true magic is discovered/created/whatever.

>> No.3586412

>>3586330
>>3586347
The grail is basically a shitload of energy. The intended use for it is to punch a hole in reality and enable the Einzberns to reach the Root, thus recreating the Heaven's Feel miracle.

It was never almighty to begin with, but a mage can still do some big-ass shit with all that energy, even without opening the hole. So, basically, some wishes might have never been granted anyhow (Saber's maybe), but it's still a juicy reward... and, actually, considering Aoko's magic may or may not be Time Travel, it may even have been possible to do Saber's as well.

Ilya uses it as was originally intended in HF to employ the Heaven's Feel on Shirou, but the strain of becoming the grail kills her, and with the Greater Grail blown up, the whole thing collapses and vanishes.

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