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35841517 No.35841517 [Reply] [Original]

What are your favorite card combos?

>> No.35841664

>>35841517
After a painful struggle I finally 1cc'd Imperishable Night on normal with Saku/Remi. I'm trying 10 right now and for whatever reason I keep accidentally running into bullets with Marisa, is her focus speed faster than the previous games? It feels hard as fuck to slowly navigate through clusters of bullets now, never had this issue until now.
Also am I blind or is Monster Cucumber a total eyesore? I can barely see the green lasers.

>> No.35841966

>>35841664
Micrododging in 10 has always fucked me up as well, I'm going to blame that for why I haven't completed Hard.

>> No.35843008

Why does the spell where Shou's lasers rotate have to derail and suddenly its very possible you will be walled? What did Zun mean by this?

>> No.35844004 [DELETED] 

>>35841517
none because UM is fucking garbage for western twitter trannies

>> No.35844060
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35844060

What is your most recent 1CC? I 1CC'd PoFV on Normal with Reisen today. All I need to do is get a Cirno 1CC and I would have unlocked Aya and Medicine. I'm going to try Lunatic with them to see if it's as easy as everyone says it is. Also, is it unusual to get the 10 Million extend by the end of stage 2? That has never happened to me before and I'm trying to do it again with Cirno but I can't seem to get 10 Million any earlier than stage 4

>> No.35844521

>>35841517
Anything with Byakuren and bombing is always fun.
>>35844060
Did a redo of my Normal and EX 1CCs for MoF today with Marisa B (with the bug fix). Had some really embarrassing deaths but outside of that, it was fun.

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>>35844521
>(with the bug fix)
I respect that

>> No.35844780

>>35841517
Marisa's laser probably. I've just been trying to 1cc normal with Reimu and I'll admit it's tough but fun.
>>35843008
>Shou's lasers
This is the first curveball in the entire series that threw me off guard and to this day still scares and confuses me.
#1 most hated spellcard in the franchise though is Seamless Ceiling of Kinkaku-ji. Even to this day after Yoshika and Clownbit.

>> No.35844791

>>35844780
My least favorite is 12-Second Nightmare

>> No.35844908
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35844908

The most uneventful stage 1 in the series while the rest of the game pure ballbusting is real cherry on top of SA. Completely zoning out is what I really need before literally and metaphorically descending into hell.

>> No.35845084

>>35844780
>#1 most hated spellcard in the franchise though is Seamless Ceiling of Kinkaku-ji
Really? In my opinion, it's not even the worst in that game. Yeah, it took me a lot of attempts, but I have actually cleared it which is more than I can say of most of the Level 10 cards.

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35845135

>>35844060
This one. I've been trying to 1cc finalB with Netherworld team since yesterday but I've only got to Kaguya's second to last spell card.

>> No.35846669
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35846669

Pichuun'd on Utsuho's final spell.

>> No.35847155
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35847155

can't believe it took me this long to realize that playing 2hu is like getting /fit/. just as your body needs rest to grow in between workouts, so too does yourself when playing 2hu.
i first started seriously grinding for an EoSD normal 1cc last year september and i played fervently for the following months. i grew frustrated at being a shitter, so i "quitted" last year december. the month following that, i decided to pick up EoSD on a whim and was surprised that i was able to 1cc it on my 1st try that day. after that, i decided to dick around and jump around the series, but i never got that far. i fucked off around april to focus on alicesoft titles without any new 1cc.
i jumped back in yesterday after reading the previous gameplay thread where some literally old oldfags were talking about their declining ability to play 2hu, so i wanted to see again how shit i was since i'm also past my prime. it was really surprising to see myself reach stage 6 of MoF (never reached sanae's boss fight before) and finally 1cc PCB.
it's odd because back when i was addicted to rhythm games such as DDR, i just played nonstop and i grew without limits. now that i'm not that young, i feel like i'm gated by some level cap every time i grind skill-based games like 2hu, so i need to rest to be able to make a breakthrough.
sounds so fucking dumb, but it basically feels like i reached a level-cap and need to rest to be able to limit-break myself.

>> No.35849959

>>35841517
I just like to gather as many familiars as possible, more shot = more fun

>> No.35850173
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>>35841517
Reminder using the starting combination of Megumu, Tsukasa and Byakuren's card is equal to using unpatched Marisa-B from MoF and clears with it don't count.

>> No.35851556

Should I play with Shot Slow On or Off in PCB?

>> No.35852647
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35852647

I've beaten both Saki and Momoyo for the first time this week
It feels good to finally see myself as a decent Touhou player

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Oh no no no... 2hu bros why is this thread so dead... I don't want to go back to just spamming fanart... I don't feel so good...

>> No.35853323

>>35853248
Most fags don't even play the games, they try them out, spam continues, get a bad ending then shelf them forever. Also holy shit how is one supposed to play Sakuya in UM? Her shot feels like absolute ass.

>> No.35853357

>>35853323
>Also holy shit how is one supposed to play Sakuya in UM? Her shot feels like absolute ass.
Narrow shot for bosses
Wide shot for basically everything else, aimed if you're confident
The damage is incredibly good but the bomb is bad so you're better off with something else for 1cc

>> No.35853416

>>35851556
Off definitely

>> No.35853511

>>35851556
What do you mean by shot slow on or off? If you're talking about wheter you should spend more time unfocused or focused; you should spend unfocused as much as possible, you build border of life faster this way.

>> No.35853527

>>35853511
>boder of life
I meant Supernatural Border, fuck

>> No.35853598

>>35850173
>Megumu, Tsukasa and Byakuren's card is equal to using unpatched Marisa-B from MoF and clears with it don't count
Stop trying to force this. I actually tried to 1CC hard mode with this combination (and failed multiple times, about an hour's worth of attempts) and it wasn't nearly as free as Marisa-B (which I was able to 1CC in 2 attempts). You still have to actually dodge stuff with this card combination.
>>35853323
>Her shot feels like absolute ass.
Damage wise, it actually isn't. It's just difficult to deal with. She melts through bosses the fastest without cards by like 5-10 secs compared to the other types (spellcard dependant). With maxed out damage cards, some anon (I think from here) found out Reimu is the strongest, followed by Sakuya I think. The bigger problem with her is her bomb. Even with Byakuren's blessings, it doesn't really do much except run the timer. Wish they gave her a decent bomb.

>> No.35853622

>>35853511
I think slow shot is an option for ultra-potato PCs that made bullets slower with the FPS and disabled replays.
It's clear no one should use it nowadays

>> No.35853640

I haven't played any of the games in a few months. I quit my goal of 1cc'ing all the games on normal after I did 4, and 6-10. I'm so shit at managing resources in later games.

>> No.35853687

>>35853598
That bomb is more than fair considering how good her shot is, and that you can still fire while it's active.

>> No.35853690

>>35853640
I had the same goal as you a year or so ago, cleared everything up through SA including extra stages, and then just completely lost motivation when I hit UFO. I hate collecting those fucking UFOs man.

>> No.35853784

>>35853690
Are you me? I can't bring myself to grind UFO but I don't wanna skip it either.
>>35853640
Are you saying you completed 10 or gave up there? Give it another go, I found it far easier than Phantasmagoria
Also try Shoot the Bullet

>> No.35855934

>>35853690
>>35853784
It's just a case of burnout (hopefully). Try one of the other games before going to UFO. Play a favorite even.

>> No.35855995

Shou makes me want to never play UFO again but Nue's raw aura pulls me back in. The games fun up until curvy laser

>> No.35856225
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35856225

I got a shitty NNB on WBaWC while abusing the fuck out of Hypers

>> No.35856239

>>35856225
fuck forgot replay
https://files.catbox.moe/63m4to.rpy

>> No.35856402

Tips for Shou's last non spell?

>> No.35856679
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35856679

>>35846669
And again. Fuck this game. Cut stage 5 the fuck out of it and it might be playable but cancer cat drags it down to Phantasmagoria level.

>> No.35857497

>>35853511
>>35853622
There's an option in settings that forces you into focused mode whenever you shoot.

>> No.35858444
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35858444

Thanks to the anon who told me to try out Fairy Wars, It's way more fun than I expected.

>> No.35858468

>>35858444
>521% motivation
That's our Chirno!

>> No.35858492

>>35856679
Well, it's literally hell lol.

>> No.35858580

>>35853248
Go back, /v/ermin, nobody here needs you.

>> No.35858621
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35858621

>>35858444
The strongest!

>> No.35859157
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35859157

>>35856679
This time I didn't manage to reach final spell because I held arrow key for 0.001 nanoseconds too long during Stage 6 Niggerin midboss so I desynced from her spam and inevitably died. Wonderful.

>> No.35860087

>>35859157
you'll get it anon! I struggled with it just like you a few weeks ago. All it takes is practice!

>> No.35860627

>>35841517
My regular combo is Jizo, Sanae's snake and Megumu's rice.
>>35849959
Yes! I had a run with all 4 unfocused options+Sanae snake shot. So much shots, it was very fun

>> No.35861292
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>no hit run until Meiling
>lose three lives to her first three attacks
Just kill me.

>> No.35862060
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>>35853598
>Stop trying to force this.
No, it legit breaks the game and throws most of it out of the window.
>I actually tried to 1CC hard mode with this combination (and failed multiple times, about an hour's worth of attempts) and it wasn't nearly as free as Marisa-B (which I was able to 1CC in 2 attempts).You still have to actually dodge stuff with this card combination.
You're probably not bombing enough, or bombing the parts you shouldn't need to bomb. Or panic. You do have to dodge a little, but still, you're bombing half the time. The other half is the easy sections like all the streaming on stage 2 that are similar on all difficulties.

Check the webm, I only legit clear the section 2 and later where I stand still. I am straight up skipping everything with the bombs. This is legit and bugged Marisa isn't? If anything, she can't trivialize stages as much.

>> No.35862140
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35862140

You nerds will hype up every card combination as NEW META?? 100% BROKEN FREE LUNATIC 1CC and then it ends up sucking ass compared to good old Wolf + Jizo.

>> No.35862167

>>35862140
Soul jar + rice + scroll is better than everything mentioned thus far

>> No.35862319

>>35862060
>You're probably not bombing enough, or bombing the parts you shouldn't need to bomb. Or panic. You do have to dodge a little, but still, you're bombing half the time.
if you have to preface your strategy with a bunch of little things and several people have already tried this combination without instant success then it really isn't as stupidly broken as you think it is, MoF!MarisaB is so much more accessible and effort-free compared to this
>>35862140
why would you take Jizo over Mokou

>> No.35863374

>>35862319
Marisa-Bug doesn't really help vs waterfall sections, Aya's suvival, or parts where you just gotta focus like Momiji. Card combo also requires you to clear a bit of the game normally. Both let you autowin everything else. They're very comparable.

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>>35862319
>why would you take Jizo over Mokou
Because you can't pick feather as your starting card.

>> No.35863680

>>35863503
>Because you can't pick feather as your starting card.
Weird, Jizo is only like a single life fragment behind if you take it from the start so I don't really get the decision

>> No.35863859

>>35863680
You can't guarantee that you are gonna get it otherwise.

Also I haven't tried Megumu, Tsukasa and Byakuren, but it looks harder to deal with than with Remi, Sannyo and Byakuren combo.

>> No.35863868

>>35863680
Or two life fragments behind if you go for secret ending. Depending on how much life pieces there is in total it might be a whole 1up worth of difference. Also, Jizo is kinda useless in Extra.

>> No.35864101

>>35857497
That's from PoFV and not what he's referring to

>> No.35864366

>>35850173
>Reminder using the starting combination of Megumu, Tsukasa and Byakuren's card is equal to using unpatched Marisa-B from MoF and clears with it don't count.
Actually centipede + wolf + familiars is more equal to unpatched MariB because of the damage multiplier.

>> No.35865090

>>35862140
You mean Rem/Byakuren/Sannyo, the life mill.
>>35862167
It really isn't. It's good but considering how much caveats you >>35862060 have to get it running (which boil down to memorize the stage and patterns), it's not any more broken than rem/byakuren/whatever card you want since bombs are for skipping sections you can't or don't want to do. Also, I've only seen this with Sanae. Is there anyone else who can get as good results? Like I'll try again for my Hard 1CC clears but I'm pretty much tempted to run off to good ol' reliable Rem/Byakuren/Sannyo. If I'm learning the stages, I might as well just play without bombing excessively.

>> No.35865321

>>35865090
Marisa has an even better bomb for this, it's just that the she blows whenever she's not bombing.

>> No.35866796

>>35865321
>Marisa has an even better bomb for this, it's just that the she blows whenever she's not bombing.
So only Sanae can really pull this combination off in a run? Because it sounds like, while Marisa has the better bomb, only Sanae really benefits from this combo enough to break the game "as hard as MoF Marisa-B does". I'm more inclined to say the combo is fine and Sanae is busted as opposed to the opposite.

>> No.35867898

The only bug abuse in UM is when you use the Maid Knife with any equipment card first

>> No.35868329

>>35841517
This one

>> No.35868809

>>35868329
It's pretty fun yeah

>> No.35870614
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Cleared UM extra stage in just one night. I finally got the Phoenix Tail but I didn't even need it.
The only other extra stage I've cleared is EoSD, and UM's was way easier to me. Obviously the cards helped, but even with that, most of the spells were incredibly straightforward. I'm guessing this is one of the easier extra stages?

>> No.35871916
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I'm starting to hate Utsuho just as much as cancer cat if not more. It's full of "keep track of bullets from 8 different directions simultaneously lmao" bullshit. Also those fucking circle bullets with enormous hitboxes. And "totally not survival" non-spells where this dumb bitch is zooming around the screen, mocking you and baiting you to skip this slog with a bomb.

>> No.35873568

Is MoFanon still working on that LNN

>> No.35874428

>>35870614
It's one of the easier ones for sure, but also definitely not the easiest as there are a couple brutal spells in there and the stage itself has some harsh sections. If you can do UM's, you can do MoF and HSiFS for sure.

>> No.35874544

>>35873568
Probably, LNNs take a while for most people

>> No.35874593

>>35841517
I like the Vampire Fang with almost anything. The mallet is also great.
That pic does look pretty broken and fun, though.

>> No.35876738
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>>35866796
>So only Sanae can really pull this combination off in a run?
No? It's bomb that counts, Marisa is great with it. I was trying it with Reimu just now, noticeably weaker than Marisa and Sanae because the bomb invincibility window is shorter, step down from unpatched MoF Marisa-B..Still, I rolled some nice cards and still got a Lunatic "clear" in hour and a half, while the only other, real Lunatic 1CCs I did in IN needed prior months of figuring out of all ins and outs, spell practice, routing, etc, so it feels still broken enough to not count. I needed two weeks for Sakuya on Hard with white people cards before I picked up the combo and cleared Hard with Marisa on the first try, putting nothing I learned into use. I would need weeks to clear Lunatic any other way. Megumu\Tsukasa\Byakuren is just horseshit enough to skip everything and make none of it earned or legit or valid.

That's 16 bombs in just stage 6.

>> No.35877152

>>35876738
ZUN specifically asked you not to be like this, you know.

>> No.35877184
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Finished the 2nd revision of my touhou gamepad. Now it has a proper circuit board instead of just wires hanging around and thumb bomb button is distanced properly.
It will not make me better at the game. I still can't 1cc mountain of faith on normal.

>> No.35877230
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>>35877184
Back side. I will redraw the circuit board edges so it fills the case properly and put everything online for whoever's interested.

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>>35877230
Based.

>> No.35877467

>>35877184
>>35877230
I think if you can do all that you should be able to 1cc mountain of faith on normal

>> No.35877885

>>35870614
I feel this extra's difficulty is the most volatile depending on cards and shot type. With Reimu and some good card combination (like damage stacking or bomb spam) it could be the single easiest extra, because you can basically skip most sections except for the survival which is an actual joke. I think Reimu + Centipede is the single easiest ExNN in the series by far, it's probably even easier than clearing some other games' extra stages at all. In general homing shots with decent card combinations make it very doable. But something like Marisa/Sakuya with no cards is actually quite hard. I'd even say the hardest extra besides maybe LoLK extra. A lot of spell cards become really annoying if you can't capture them quickly, like Mine Blast or the opening card, and others actively make it really hard to attack the boss at all like Snake Eater, so they end up lasting super long. And then there's Dragon Eater which becomes just brutal.
Homing + high damage ends up trivializing most of the hard parts. But to be fair it's really hard to balance a stage when cards have such a huge impact in the game.

>> No.35878104

So am I supposed to not shoot the things in stage 4 of PCB
Actually playing the level as expected seems to make it a lot harder

>> No.35878157

>>35878104
I usually shoot at the beggining of the level up unitl the hairballs start coming out of the sides. They only shoot streaming bullets if you don't kill them making that portion much easier. Then when Lily comes I start shooting again for the rest of the level.

>> No.35878161

>>35878104
Don't shoot the spinny things before Lilly White

>> No.35878312

>>35877184
>>35877230
This is really cool.
I typed in the github link if anyone else is interested:
https://github.com/Pimentoso/TouhouPad_v2

>> No.35878593
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35878593

Decided to take a break from Ms. Shou's wild ride and went back to Hsifs.
Winter is really broken, I got to Okina's final with 3 extra lives left and only lost one life to Mai and Satono.

>> No.35878638

>>35861292
Ganbate Anon.
Micrododging is a skill you must master.

>> No.35879259

>>35878104
>>35878157
>>35878161
wtf guys, I never knew this
Is there stuff like this in every game? Am I doing touhou wrong? Should I not just continuously fire and shoot everything immediately?

>> No.35879643

>>35879259
If it exists it's usually a small segment or certain stages. I remember it also happened in EOSD stage 2, the first or second wave of enemies shoot after being killed.

>> No.35879687

>>35879643
there's quite a bit of it in stage 5 of SA if I remember right. don't know if there's an English term for it, but it's called 撃ち返し (uchi-kaeshi) in Japanese

>> No.35880031

>>35879259
Off the top of my head, right before Mai and Satono and Raiko's spell where she drops the drums on you

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>>35873568
Yes, I am. Look at what I just got haha..

>> No.35880085
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35880085

>>35880066
>seven lives
NO ANON DON'T GIVE UP KEEP TRYING KEEP FUCKING TRYING FUCKING DO IT ANON FUCKING DO IT

>> No.35880093

>>35879259
Not quite the same as the other examples but I always found Yuugi's first spellcard (not her mid boss one) a bit easier on normal if I shoot the purple ring just enough to move past it, but not enough to make it into a bubble.

>> No.35880468

>>35880093
I never undedstood that spell. No matter if you pop the ring or not, Yuugi shoots towards the sides and not you. So you're not gonna die either way.

>> No.35880642

>>35878104
Just route, it's not that hard.

>> No.35881678
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35881678

Managed to get through Utsuho fight on 5 lives in practice mode.
That's how much I had left by the start of Stage 6 on my best attempt.
I can beat this bullshit game but only if everything goes perfectly.
>>35879259
>>35879687
Revenge bullets are fucking everywhere in SA.

>> No.35882203

Beat Hsifs with all Reimus.
Summer is the easiest, but that final spell ate three of my lives.

>> No.35883991

>>35882203
Just did it again with Marisa Summer
I'm too tired to do any more runs but I'm 100% sure Zun made Hidden Perfect Summer Ice hard because he knew that the releases were OP

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35886262

https://files.catbox.moe/t8r52e.rpy
I MADE IT, LADS. Subterranean Animism has been CONQUERED. Had to abuse two safespots (Orin's first non and Utsuho's spinning suns). And accidentally safespotted (?) chunk of Cat's Walk. The whole stage 5 was a wild ride, I dodged lots of shit I wasn't supposed to survive and died like a complete retard a few times. Also this >>35859157 shit happened again. Had 0 extra lives to spare during final spell so my heart was pumping so hard that neighbors are probably going to call cops on me for blasting loud music.
Now I have to make hard choice between flaying my dick (UFO) and smashing my balls with a sledgehammer (LoLK).

>> No.35886676

>>35883991
I wouldn't say that, Spring is by far the hardest of the final spells and Spring is the overall worst shot type (shot itself contributes less than Autumn and Winter, release sucks cause it isn't nearly as farmable)

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>>35886262
rB too, GG anon!

>> No.35890347

Aya and Cirno play so horribly compared to Marisa and Reimu. Cirno does barely any damage and Aya needs to slow down a little.
>>35886676
Summer's spell is harder for me, and you can farm with Spring if you wait for a bunch of bullets to cover the screen.

>> No.35891362

>>35886262
Fight Saki instead.
If you can do Okina and Momoyo, she should be a piece of cake

>> No.35892695
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>>35891362
I don't want to touch this stinker of a game in the foreseeable future.

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35892720

Hurts just a little
>>35892695
Wbawc is a good game

>> No.35893430

>>35892720
The photo games are the only good bullet eating games.

>> No.35893627

I accidentally lost to Okina on her final spell because I pressed c instead of x
At least everything leading up to her final is easy as hell

>> No.35893728
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>>35893627
There we go!

>> No.35893894

>>35841517
The chinese card meta: the cheats menu

>> No.35893914

>>35877230
I woukd be interested in a NUE version

>> No.35894047
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Literally uncapturable.

>> No.35894168

>>35894047
Press x

>> No.35894352
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35894352

Thanks for the encouragement, Doremy!
>>35894047
Turns out I just had to stay in the middle.
>>35894168
I'm not gonna bomb unless bullshit becomes completely unbearable.

>> No.35894749
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Sagume is a fucking weirdo. Pic related is so convoluted that I have no idea how it works even after successfully capturing it. And then comes THE EARRAPE SPELLCARD.
Anyway, now that moonies are dealth with, time to get raped by a clown.

>> No.35895764

>>35861292
i play on normal but i feel you, China still manages to hit me or forces me to use a bomb every now and then speciallly her last spellcard colour typhon but the one that gets the cake in my opinion is Patches she always hits me or makes me empty my bomb arsenal,

>> No.35898785

>>35895764
God I hate Patche. I know I should be able to differentiate gameplay from character, but her stage is the worst one in EoSD and her bullet types are just as bad in SA.
It's like she's trying to get you killed, no matter what side you're on.

>> No.35898839

Does anyone else have real problems with Mountain of Faith?
The bullets and enemies seem to be way faster than usual to me, and your movement is slow and unfocused.

>> No.35899163

>>35898839
MoF has some challenging patterns and requires a fair bit of routing but the bombs are extremely powerful, so much so that it really is one of the easiest games

>> No.35899412

>>35898785
You need to get good. Her shot is extremely powerful if you can use it.

>> No.35900540

Why does th9 feel like a bonus game and less like a main title?
The extra stage doesn't even have its own theme there.

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>00.85
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.35900646

>>35900540
Because it literally is, newfriend. It was pure fanservice that he made after completing his original three-year plan and seeing how popular the series had become.

>> No.35900927

>>35900646
OK newfriend, thanks for filling me in.

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>>35900560
Epic.

>> No.35901435

>>35901366
Are you trying to do a NB run?

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>>35901435
Yes. Since PD mode is a giant spell practice I'd better take advantage of it and use it, well, for practicing spells. But I'll most likely give up either on clown's lasers or on some of Junko's bullshit. On my Easy PD run a couple months ago I bombed one or both spinning moons, american lazors, Junko's final and Junko's circles spawning around you (this one was really tedious and irritating).

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35902343

How come Suika gets to appear in both StB and DS?

>> No.35902567

>>35902343
She's also in ISC and VD, in fact she's the only character to appear in all 4 games.

>> No.35903089

Every FUCKING time, I see a bullet making a beeline straight towards me, I hear the death sound before mashing bomb and NOTHING FUCKING happens
As if SA wasn't shit enough as it is, it has to pull this FUCKING shit on me
This didn't happen to me in PCB, it didn't happen in IN and it sure as hell didn't happen in EoSD
Why does the 2nd Windows generation games have to be so fucking SHIT, from the characters (except Yuugi) to the music (except Yuugi's stage) to the mechanics, everything is fucking SHIT

I'm so tired man

>> No.35903490

>>35903089
You aren't supposed to be deathbombing

>> No.35903496

>>35903089
>Why does the 2nd Windows generation games have to be so fucking SHIT, from the characters (except Yuugi) to the music (except Yuugi's stage) to the mechanics, everything is fucking SHIT
filtered

>> No.35903529

>>35903089
git gud

>> No.35903699

>>35903089
Deathbombing on IN is so sex
But honestly you need to get better

>> No.35903753

>>35903089
>I hear the death sound before mashing bomb and NOTHING FUCKING happens
So, the expected behavior?
Maybe you'll be better at the game when you grow up.

>> No.35903877

>>35903490
Really?

>> No.35903918

>>35903877
Yeah, ideally you should basically plan out where you want to place your bombs. That's what you kind of have to do in most traditional shmups where there's less resources
If you don't want to do that though, you're best off just letting them rip and dodging on empty - there's very few patterns stage 4 and up that you should feel bad about having to bomb if uncomfortable

>> No.35903936

>>35903918
>you should [...] plan
No, I refuse

>> No.35903991

>>35903936
It's not something big to write down. Just remember which spells you 100% suck at and always bomb them.

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>>35898785
her spellcards really are just pure malice, sylphae horn,Sylphae Horn High Level, princess undine, mental fatigue (that's what you are going to get after dodging the yellow balls) it's really cool but it's really bad at the same time, like you can feel the hate she has for you when she uses those spells.

>> No.35904226

>>35903991
But then how am I supposed to get better at them? I fondly remember being unable to get past Patchouli without bombs and then getting murdered by Sakuya but slowly but surely getting better until it was a walk in the park and I could get murdered by Sakuya with full bomb stock
Am I really just FORCED to bomb if I don't like a spellcard? man I really hate this dynamic, just more and more reasons to dislike SA

>> No.35904265

>>35904226
this is not at all unique to SA, the difference is purely that SA is harder than all the other games you have played to this point

>> No.35904303

>>35904226
You want to be one of those NB retards? Fine, but stop complaining when Orin rapes you, you're "learning and improving" from this after all.

>> No.35904352

>>35903918
This isn't a shmup. I hate shmups. I hate CAVE games. I hate routing. I just want to look at the bullets that come from the top of the screen and move to where they are not. Not make some hyper-autistic perfect route or spam bullet clears for 20 minutes until I'm handed a free lunatic 1cc because touhou isn't hard.
The entire concept of a second loop is cheap and straight up bad game design, mainly because increasing the length of the game is the easiest way to increase the amount of mistakes. Imagine if DOJ black label started on 2nd loop for everyone. Imagine if the regular EoSD was the first loop and you had to 1cc it on Lunatic with no bombs used and at least a 300 million score to access the second loop, which is just the same game but with increased bullet speed and density, but it strips you of all your extra lives because fuck you. Enjoy EoSD White Label, the game made for CAVE difficulty wankers.
They’re all trash, touhou is more fun, soulful, and LNNs of the harder games are way more impressive than whatever fucking memorize-em-up garbage you autistic boomers jerk off. Soulless arcade machine skinner boxes designed to drain your quarters cannot even come close to the kino of a passion project like Touhou.

>> No.35904631

>>35904226
>But then how am I supposed to get better at them?
If your goal is to 1cc, you don't have to get better at them. And if your goal is to 1cc without bombing hard parts well, all I can say is don't get mad when said hard parts kill you
>>35904352
I agree with this completely unironically.

>> No.35904648

>>35903089
See >>35903918 this anon is 100% correct.
>Why does the 2nd Windows generation games have to be so fucking SHIT, from the characters (except Yuugi) to the music (except Yuugi's stage) to the mechanics, everything is fucking SHIT
SA isn't my favorite game (it's a personal thing rather than the game being objectively poorly designed, none of the shot types in this game really clicks with me. Outside of that, it's a good game) but SA's mechanics are fantastic. I usually don't like the bomb = power loss system but the SA grazing system more than makes up for it. Stop being a gen wunner and adapt to the newer engine.
>>35904352
>This isn't a shmup. I hate shmups. I hate CAVE games. I hate routing.
You sound like a shitter. Maybe you should just stop playing Touhou if you refuse to learn basic skills like routing. Also
>I just want to look at the bullets that come from the top of the screen and move to where they are not. Not make some hyper-autistic perfect route
Do you actually think that you won't naturally end up with a route if you practice a Touhou game enough? I don't know why you're acting like memorization isn't a key part of Touhou games. And I have no idea why you starting ranting on about CAVE designs when all that anon said was to plan your bombs intelligently for a 1CC.

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>>35904648
it's a pasta anon-kun

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>>35904660
Well I feel like a dumbass. First time I've ever seen this pasta.

>> No.35904839

>>35904648
>none of the shot types in this game really clicks with me
this is something I feel as well
several of the shot types are cool on paper but then SA's stages and patterns are designed to be so strict that you can barely get any significant use out of them, that and the bomb system meaning you're not gonna get the full potential of your shot type for a decent chunk of the run
in the end ReimuA always ends up the best choice because of her power alone

>> No.35904931

Question about buying games, where could I buy the games if I wanted to support ZUN? Does he sell his game anywhere other than comiket, or whatever those events are called?

>> No.35904971

>>35904839
Yukari, Suika, and Nitori are just normal forward-focus shots (because let's be real, the "homing" is negligible), and perfectly effective aside from Suika being kind of weak. Alice is also pretty basic, the only gimmick being that it spreads when focused and narrows when unfocused. Patche also lets you switch between a narrow and wide shot, although the three useless ones (perhaps I should say "situationally useful") kind of get in the way. Aya is the only one that I think can't flex her gimmick very well, but then again it's simply a bad gimmick.

>> No.35904975

>>35904931
The games from Mountain of Faith onwards are all on Steam, you still need to patch them to English though.

>> No.35904988

>>35904975
Is steam really the only other option? There isn't Japanese website that sells them that aren't used?

>> No.35905102

>>35904988
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Purchasing_Guide
Amazon jp also works but if you don't live in japan have fun paying shipping costs.

>> No.35905115

Why is Lunatic Touhou 12 so damn hard? Why are the later games except 15 have been so easy?

>> No.35905124

>>35905115
Buddhism

>> No.35905492
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>>35903089
You're supposed to deathbomb in advance, not reflexively. The whole point of this mechanic is to reward you for waiting until you get really close to getting hit before bombing. Deathbombing window is there to accommodate for possible slight miscalculation of when the bullet is going to hit you.
>>35904226
>But then how am I supposed to get better at them?
Use practice mode.

>> No.35906321

WHAT THE FUCK I'M ON CLOWNPIECE SECOND SPELL AND SHE HASN'T DROPPED A SINGLE [P] WHAT THE FUCK I'M ALREADY AT 2.xx AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.35906733
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Now I'm really close to just bombing this trash.
I CAN'T SEE SHIT
HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DODGE A FUCKING FLASHBANG

>> No.35906824
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JUST ONE MORE

>> No.35906938

>>35906824
I believe in you anon! Fake Appolo is one of her easier spells.

>> No.35907068
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>>35906938
CLUNNY CUNNY IS MINE

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D^,:

>> No.35907700
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NOOOO I DON'T WANT TO DODGE SHIT COMING AT ME FROM BELOW PLEASE NO AAAAAAA FUUCK

>> No.35907902
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AAAA FUCK OFF WITH THIS SHITTY MOMOYO RIPOFF

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Thanks for not putting a checkpoint after 2 filler phases of Junko's final, ZUN.

>> No.35908705
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All that's left is Ms. Youmu's bugged shot, but I think I know this game well enough to do it with a bit of elbow grease.
>>35907902
She came before Momoyo tho, Nue has a spell similar to that though.
>>35908386
Just be glad this didn't happen to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I61zR4vw0ho

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Got tired of this shit after replaying literal loading screen over a hundred times and just bombed through last 2 phases of Junko's final.

>> No.35910736
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Legacy mode is fucking impossible.

>> No.35911429

>>35908386
Running out of bombs and having to capture Junko's final spell is a one-of-a-kind experience.

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>>35856679
>>35859157

>> No.35913672 [SPOILER] 
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>>35913310
ALRIGHT YOU STUPID FUCKING CAT I'VE HAD ENOUGH YOU ASKED FOR IT

>> No.35913838
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>>35913672
Not nice anon, Orin is one of the best girls in the series after all.

>> No.35913850
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I hate Ichirin and Unzan

>> No.35914184

>>35913850
why? they are cool on normal

>> No.35914328

Got all the way to Keiki's final with Eagle Youmu. I had 2/3 heart pieces and was a little upset because I got Kutaka's extra beast, but lost the rewards thanks to crashing into a bullet.
This is definitely doable with another attempt or two.

>> No.35916002

>>35879259
>Is there stuff like this in every game?
Yes.
It's how I learned how to live longer on Doremy's stage.

>> No.35916501

SA Marisa B (Patchy) is the most fun shot type out of all games.

>> No.35917802

>>35916501
It's fun and cool but in practice I only used 2 out of the 5 (or was it 6?) patterns they have. Maybe that'll change if I try them on Hard, or if I actively go around the screen and use the most optimal one for clearing enemies.

>> No.35917805

>>35916501
>SA Marisa B (Patchy) is the most fun shot type out of all games.
>out of all games.
No, but it has the potential to be the most fun out of SA if you could choose exactly which element type you wanted to swap to instead of have to cycle through each type, and the swap input was set to a different button other than hitting shift+shot. There's been a few times where I've accidently hit shift+shot at the same time after not shooting for a while and, while it isn't a run killer, it's a bit annoying to readjust. I'd rather play SA without being mindful about it.

I think I would have a lot more fun with the type swapping if it were implemented as like negative edging with some other button (ex: hold C, press an arrow key to change types, release C to select; Fire element could work as just neutral C).

>> No.35917930

>>35916501
if you're TASing sure

>> No.35919488

>>35904131
>you can feel the hate she has for you when she uses those spells.
To be fair, you did barge into her library and destroy a few books.
And you were loud.
I need to try her stage again when I get the chance.

>> No.35920654
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Sagume's final is chewing through Reisen's healthbar like Master Spark through fairies what the fuck

>> No.35920681

>>35920654
Yeah, Reisen's shield doesn't work against lasers. Have fun with stage 5 and Clappy.

>> No.35920685

>>35920654
This is why I think people who say LoLK is easy with Reisen are full of shit. The shields have a very short invulnerability period which means you can lose a lot of them really fast in a dense wave of bullets. That's what I remember the last time I attempted LoLK with Reisen

>> No.35920874

>>35920654
Play Sanae and use her bomb to supergraze for life points

>> No.35920918

>>35917802
I think it works well within SA considering how relatively many spells there are where you have to circle around the boss. It's great for Parsee and Orin and it also makes it possible to capture that stupid 2 minute Koishi spell.

>>35917805
It was a bit annoying at first but it only took me a few attempts until I got into the habit of pressing Z slightly before pressing shift if I needed to resume after pausing my shots. Cycling also isn't really an issue once you learn how many taps it takes to go from one shot type to any other.

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>>35920874
I tried both and it seems like I have better chances with Reisen, at least I managed to credit feed to the end as her. Sanae's bomb grazing is nice but there's not much of a net gain plus Reisen's bomb is just easier to handle, press x and forget about it until you get hit 3 times. Laser tax is brutal though.

>> No.35921748

>>35920974
https://youtu.be/cCxeK1-i_nU?t=771

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>>35921748
THAT'S ILLEGAL

>> No.35921795

>>35921789
Don't worry, it's okay because Sagume is the least memorable out of LoLk's cast

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>>35921795
She's the only likeable moonie.

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damn i raised the joystick sensitivity with the custom.exe program and the control is so much better

>> No.35925641

Why is TD considered part of the second generation of windows games and not the third?

>> No.35925670

>>35925641
It's a Moriya Shrine conspiracy.

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>>35925343
>joystick

>> No.35925996
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>>35925937
PS4 controller

>> No.35926198
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>>35925996
Are you really playing on a fucking analog stick?

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what does the e1 and e2 boxes for touhou 18 mean? does it mean 1 equip and 2 equip or does it mean something else?

>> No.35927015

>>35927007
ending 1 and ending 2
you get a different ending if you take Chimata's card to her

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>>35927007
Get pic related after defeating Megumu, clear the game with it, you'll unlock 3rd card slot.

>> No.35929873
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Bullying Saki instead of trying to do Youmu Eagle

>> No.35930059
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>>35926198
What's wrong with analog stick players anon?

>> No.35930133
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35930133

This game is definitely what made ZUN realize Touhou needs focus buttons.

>> No.35930276

>>35926198
this may surprise you but most japanese players play these games with a controller

>> No.35931530

>>35927007
E1 is standard, E2 is clearing the game with Chimata's card at stage 6.
That's all it is.

>> No.35931742

>>35930276
ZUN plays with a super famicom controller. no joystick

>> No.35932130

>>35930133
Was it added the game after that? I'm a bit unfamiliar with PC98.

>> No.35932234

>>35931742
He plays with a ps2 controller now.

>> No.35932676

>>35932130
Yeah, Lotus Land Story and Mystic Square are the only PC-98 games with focus.

>> No.35933298
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35933298

It feels almost impossible to avoid bug abuse for Saki's timeout unless you're doing a NB run or are super good at the game.

>> No.35935305

Reimu became a God Slayer. Seriously, it was supposed to be about youkai extermination but nowadays all the final bosses are GODS. Soulless

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>>35935305
She's more of a God Tard Wrangler really. A shrine maiden supervising gods and making sure that they won't do any stupid shit is a cool concept, but ZUN really has been overusing god for quite a while.

>> No.35935707

>>35935305
Remilia or Kaguya weren't youkai either.
I'm still waiting for either Reimu to turn into a halfgod herself, or Marisa into a youkai witch.

>> No.35937295

>>35935707
Vampires are considered youkai though.

>> No.35938141

>>35937295
I had the impression youkai were only traditionally japanese monsters/ghost stories etc.
Remilia seems to be obviously inspired by western legends of vampires.

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Reached end of Graze Inferno on one credit, took 2 more continues to finish the rest. My best Legacy run so far. If I figure out how to survive Clown't ABSOLUTE FUCKING BULLSHIT non-spell where trillion lasers are chasing you, this game might be beatable.

>> No.35938608

>>35938141
Remilia is obviously a vampire, but at least by Akyuu vampires are considered youkai. I don't remember SoPM that well but I think it mentions other cases of non traditional japanese youkai ending inside of Gensokyo.

>> No.35941727

I have 4 bombs against Junko (normal), is that enough or did I fuck myself?

>> No.35941852

>>35941727
Doubtful, unless you have 2 power or something. Just get ready to eat shit on her last card if you don't save them.

>> No.35942704

>>35941727
On pointdevice - yes, save 'em for last spell.

>> No.35944058

Lost to Okina's final with Aya.
The game is a lot harder when not playing a one of the golden girls

>> No.35947760

>>35841517
For the fellas that have done lunatic 1ccs. How many hours would you say it takes you?

>> No.35947930

>>35947760
A Lunatic run only takes about half an hour, anon.

>> No.35948339

>>35947930
I think he was referring to the grinding, which would vary from person to person anyways.

>> No.35948457
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I finally did my first PCB 1CC on easy with Reimu!
Prismrivers and Youmu used to end me prematurely every single time, but now I can see how my hard work paid off.
Yuyuko still has some bullshit attacks though, lost 5 lives to her and almost died on that last spell.

>> No.35949019

>>35948457
good, but don't rest on your laurels yet, you've still got normal to go

>> No.35949065

>>35949019
I don't think I'll ever be able to do normal mode.

>> No.35949117

>>35949065
Not with that attitude

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>>35949117
I've tried, okay??

>> No.35949182
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35949182

>>35949163
Believe in urself and try harder.

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35949218

>>35949182
OK!

>> No.35951788

>>35949065
Do IN on normal, it's easier than PCB

>> No.35952364

Man I think I really underestimated the difficulty leap from Hard to Lunatic with some cards. I tried capturing lunatic PDH and failed miserably, then went to Hard and while it started off being just as terrible I eventually managed to get decent at it. But now I just came back to Lunatic and it's still every bit as impossible, even after trying it for a really long time. The Lunatic version makes Hard look like easy mode, it's fucking crazy

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>>35951788
I think PCB Normal is easier than IN because of Reimu/Marisa bossfight. Also PCB constantly saves your ass for free with its gimmicks.

>> No.35958794

>>35948457
>>35949065
Play Lotus Land on normal modo

>> No.35958912

>>35958794
What's Lotus Land?

>> No.35958922

>>35958912
The fourth and easiest game

>> No.35958995

>>35958922
I don't have an emulator.

>> No.35959516
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Reached Bullshit Rain before Junko and died like a retard because I thought I had one more shield left. Once I learn how to count to three that Legacy 1cc is mine.

>> No.35960060

sometimes when I beat a boss in th18 their spellcard won't appear in the shop
do they have secret requirements like 17's boss pickups?

>> No.35960429

>>35960060
Did you use her card in the run before?

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>>35960429
Nah, I've been doing the "no moving" challenge so I'm starting out with actives and the last few runs had good first shop cards so I didn't take Mike's. Still sometimes decides it doesn't want to appear today.

>> No.35960766

>>35960060
Return to the main menu and restart your run. iirc, there's a glitch where hitting restart and try again doesn't restock the cards correctly.

>> No.35960770

>>35960707
There's a known bug with restarting from the pause menu. If you've bought a particular card in any run since the last time you exited to the main menu, that card won't show up in shops in any subsequent runs. So if you bought Mike's card in an earlier run, but have only restarted from the pause menu since then, it won't show up until you go back to the main menu.

>> No.35960805

Fuck curved lasers.

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>>35960770
So I can manipulate the game to give me perfect cards if buy all the shitty ones?

>> No.35961337

>>35960766
>>35960770
Got it
>>35960846
I've been restarting the past hour to test and gotten no repeats so far, but it takes so implausibly long that you shouldn't even bother with it

>> No.35961371

>>35958995
Get neko project II and follow this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVXxb7VXgW8

>> No.35961422

>>35960707
>"no moving" challenge
Is that possible?

>> No.35961463

>>35961422
It is, though it's mostly just RNG/luck getting the cards you want and stupidly difficult. Still fun though, and good practice for deathbombing/getting confident with hitboxes to know when you can let a bullet touch you inappropriately without losing a life.

>> No.35961504

>>35960846
>>35961337
Yeah, it takes a long time, but it's not out of the question. There are 48 cards that can show up at any shop, and in a run you start with three and can purchase five, so you'd have to eliminate 40 unwanted cards by playing up through stage 5 and then restarting eight times. That's, what, three and a half hours? Impractical as a strategy to beat the game if you're having trouble, but absolutely doable just for the sake of it.
More importantly, I wonder if it would even work. The fact that cards get removed from the pool across restarts is clearly a glitch, but in normal, intended gameplay, there will always be at least three (or six, if using Mike) cards in the pool to populate each shop. This raises the possibility that if there are fewer than three cards in the pool, the game might crash or cause some strange error behavior upon reaching the shop. Of course, it could also just load normally but with fewer cards. I'd be very interested to hear the results if anyone has the wherewithal to try it.

>>35961371
Or just get it pre-configured from the megapack.

>> No.35963130

so, i just 1cced sa on easy with rB, and beat pcb (also on easy, go ahead and make fun of me, i have been making fun of myself) with sakuya a with continues. i am also playing lolk on normal pd as sanae, and i am at junko's final spell with no bombs (4/5 pieces, was hoping i would have one left but that didn't work out too well i guess). any suggestions?

>> No.35964593

>>35963130
Other game on EZ modo

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>>35963130
>i am at junko's final spell with no bombs
You're fucked. Either restart and save 2 bombs for final or use thprac to practice the bullshit part of the spell.
Also, stop wasting your time on easymodo and play normal. Easy is tutorial difficulty.

>> No.35967790

>>35947930
He means how long it took for the first lunatic clear.

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This time I survived until Murderous Lilies. Clunny's nonspell with trillions lasers keeps shredding me into [p]ieces. I kills me so hard that I often can't even see what killed me. I get obliterated so hard that I always have to timeout it.

>> No.35971770

>>35971516
Stream focused side to side, tank through the stars as necessary

>> No.35972349
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How close am I to making it?

>> No.35972399

>>35972349
Pretty close, but I suggest using saki + sannyo instead of sumireko + megumu if you're going with remilia.

>> No.35972422

>>35972399
i'll consider it, Sanae feels a bit weak sometimes so Saki might help
Not sure about Sannyo given I don't cap that much even with Remilia. I can cap Tsukasa 1 & 3, MAYBE 2 if i'm really feeling myself, Momoyo Disco Ball, and her lasers spellcard. Saki might make up for that loss of power but there are places i haven't routed without Sumireko especially the stage part.
I'll try & experiment.

>> No.35972907

>>35972349
Why Sumireko over Raiko?

>> No.35973020

>>35972422
If you don't cap with Remilia, don't bother then.
Try the raiko + okuu + saki strat
You'll probably need okuu for dragon eater

>> No.35973025

>>35972907
i'm not good with raiko's
sumireko's may not happen as often but its really handy at times
notably it gets me through that one spell with the yellow & green bullets that progressively go down

>> No.35973048

>>35973025
>notably it gets me through that one spell with the yellow & green bullets that progressively go down
Misdirecting that one is a lot easier than trying to erase the bullets away

>> No.35973206

>>35973048
i'll try & figure it then

>> No.35976022
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Marisa winter is probably the easiest HsiFs clear, made it to Okina with almost max lives.
Am I ready to go back to UFO or should I continue trying to beat all the easy games with every shot type? Maybe try an easy extra? I dunno.

>> No.35976123

>>35976022
Finishing off the other shot types in 10 and 14 would be fun, as well as trying Flan, Ran, or Suwako, so you really are spoiled for choice. But if I were you, I'd want to get at least one clear each on 11 and 12 first.

>> No.35976181

>>35976022
What's the bug abuse in HSiFS Extra?

>> No.35976265

>>35976123
Might go with trying to clear SA then. Shou's lasers haunt me still.
>>35976181
Using a bomb on her timeout. It's her easiest spell to do but I didn't wanna risk it because I'd spent at least two hours trying to clear it.

>> No.35976284

>>35976265
When I cleared it I bombed but I avoided holding Z because I thought that bug was only in WBaWC. Looking back at my replay, she took a little it of damage towards the end. I hope that doesn't invalidate my run... I could have sworn the wiki never said anything about that bug the last time I checked it. Also, how many Releases did you use for Marisa Winter? I only had like two or three lives when I cleared it Reimu Winter but that might have been because I wasn't using releases. One last thing, about Extra stages, I suggest doing Ran next if you want something that's easy

>> No.35976333

>>35976265
>>35976284
It's not invalidated unless you end the card prematurely by damaging her down instead of by timing it out as intended, since if the game were programmed correctly, you'd be able to release and bomb all you wanted to survive, it just wouldn't damage her. It's quite easy to avoid this issue by simply not shooting, as you said.
I suppose technically it would invalidate your score, since damaging enemies does give you points, but that's a separate issue.
The same goes for Saki's survival spell.

>> No.35976371

>>35976284
https://files.catbox.moe/zdesqw.rpy
Here's the replay, I only had 3 lives left over once I cleared it, but I entered her fight with almost max lives. Sorry if my wording was confusing
>>35976333
It's really easy to not bug abuse Okina's timeout because she's sitting on the bottom the whole time and the pattern looks unfinished, but for Saki, you have to either bomb through it if you accidentally activate the bug or lose a life as it's ending because the spell forces you into the middle.

>> No.35976566

>>35976371
Yeah, but as long as the bombing doesn't kill her, it's fine.

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Fuck

>> No.35982040

>>35978883
That's a bummer, but on the other hand that last card is pretty easy, so just run it in spell practice a bit and next time you'll be golden.

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I seem to always fail at the same points in 2hu games.
Stage 4. It's always stage 4 that costs half my lifes and all of my motivation.
Patche, Prismniggers, Reimu... they always have the longest stages with the most bullshit enemy types.

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>> No.35986201

>>35984122
Accidentally timing out Kanako's last spell blind made me fall in love with the series

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>>35982040
I got it. Thanks to that one guy who told me the Green & Yellow spell was all about misdirecting, turned it into the easiest card of Momoyo and got me to make it by saving ressources from it.

>> No.35986277

>>35965526
so, i wanted to keep trying to capture it, but after some time i figured i would take your advice partially by trying it on another character. i just started, and finished a normal pd playthrough with reimu in 2 or so hours, and finished it with over 5 bombs left (i used 5 bombs on junko's final because i was irrationally happy about it, but i really should have taken the opportunity to practice with reimu's smaller hitbox, i know i had more than enough to bomb the whole thing, but idk how much exactly that was) with only 385 retries. is it just me, or is reimu ridiculously easier than all of the others? and here i thought sanae was supposed to be better (to be fair, i knew part of it was because her bomb is good for legacy grazing, so it makes sense that she would be best for legacy, and reimu, with her small hitbox, would be best for pointdevice, but whatever.) it felt almost like easy mode on the other games i have beaten.

>> No.35986325

>>35986277
When it comes to PD mode, I think all the girls are well balanced and it takes me no less or more time with any of them to complete a run. Reimu having the most straightforward, balanced shot type does make a big difference for a less experienced player though - much easier to make use of than say Marisa's high power melting for somebody who isn't as comfortable yet.

>> No.35986365

>>35986325
understandable. i just got into the "bullet hell" genera some time last year or so i think, so it makes sense that the more simplistic shot type would be easier, but i have 1cced (easy) TD with youmu multiple times, (i haven't played it in a while, so i could probably beat normal but idk) so maybe it is more complicated than that.

>> No.35986619

>>35841517
Goddam do i suck immensely at bullet hells

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Kinda scary how fast Reimu melts enemies with Momoyo + any ability card. It feels more like unpatched MoF Marisa B than Byakuren + Tsukasa + Megumu.

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Is it just me, or does the joystick sensitivity slider in SA not do anything

>> No.35996065

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1440500/_/

>> No.35996236

>>35996065
Oh wow, about time we hear something. Looking forward to it.

>> No.35997239

>>35910736
i have no idea how people beat junko

>> No.35998137

>>35996065
I hope Nue's in this one.

>> No.35998695

>>35961504
I don't know, this seems pretty significant when you consider you can just play one or two warm-up runs where you buy up the weak cards to raise the probability of getting the good ones when you play seriously. Looking back, there was so many cases where I felt the game was rigged to give me all the bad cards, but I simply bought out the good ones and didn't know about it. So I don't feel one bit bad about getting back at the game at all.

>> No.35999340

Who's the best character for SA extra? I've tried Reimu A and B but it's still hard as balls.

>> No.35999378

>>35999340
Reimu A is the best character for just about everything in the game.

>> No.35999514

>>35999340
>SA
>best
the answer is always ReimuA

>> No.35999551

>>35999340
ReimuB is pretty good too, got to beat SA Normal with her.

>> No.35999745

>>35999340
ReimuC bombspam and it's not even close

>> No.35999774

>>35999745
>bombspam
>extra

>> No.36000264

>>35995565
>Is it just me, or does the joystick sensitivity slider in SA not do anything
I don't use it, so I don't know since I barely use a controller.

>> No.36006289

How the fuck does anyone clear any one okinas finals in HSiFS????? i can't 1cc because i keep losing 3-4 lifes WITH bombs. i'm using reimu fall and sometimes spring, spring seems easier but i cant cheese stuff like fall.

>>35841664
here's the thing: just don't dodge dense bullets in MOF and you will get your power back instantly lmao.

>> No.36006852

>>35956008
Youmu is still hard at least for me, i haven't fought with her a lot so that might be the reason i need to get used to her, i only defeated her 1 time and she came back in stage 6 to finish the job

>> No.36006873

>>35983505
stage 4 are made to fuck you up, sometimes it feels like Patche is harder than Remilia

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Holy fucking shit I hate Satori's dumbass cat so much why do I have to fight her so many times.
Also is it just me or are bombs dogshit in this game? Previously you could skip awful spellcards with a single bomb, now even if you burn all your resources you barely get any value out of it plus you lose all your power. No wonder ZUN reverted the way bombs worked.

>> No.36009323

>>36006289
I don't exactly remember what those spells look like off the top of my head, but it could be that you're getting stuck in a cycle of bombing (and thus giving her i-frames) during the parts where you would be able to hit her, then being forced off target while she's vulnerable. If you know you're going to have to bomb anyway, plan ahead and time them so that you get the most time possible on target and can damage her down before running out of resources. Of course, you can always practice those spell, too.

>>36008884
It's you who's dogshit.

>> No.36011537

>>36009323
Just double-checked and yes, bombs ARE dogshit here compared to the rest of the games, so yeah, fuck off.

>> No.36011550

>>36011537
Use Reimu C

>> No.36020552

>>35986255
Congratulations!
Did you like the EX stage?

>> No.36022520

Ass.

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One mainline game left to clear on normal. Fucking saucers...

>> No.36023432

>>36022705
You'll be a UFO-player soon enough. Good luck!

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>>35841517
I've been playing for around a day or two now, and I finally managed to beat the final boss of Embodiment of Scarlet Devil! It's my first Touhou game and it's really fun! I guess now I just have to figure out how to beat it without continues...

>> No.36025284

>>36024828
Congrats, would recommend watching replays on Youtube to get a good grasp on how to get through without using continues, it's a really satisfying feeling when you get to pull it off.

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Accidentally got addicted to Hsifs, Cirno's shot is abysmal but I managed to defeat Okina.

>> No.36025552

>>36024828
Use practice mode a lot and see what works for you. If you really really wanna practice specific bits, download thprac.

>> No.36030495

The more I play, the worse I get.

>> No.36037045

>>36030495
Take a break.

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Finally got my second Hard 1cc on SA with Marisa/Alice. As usual I ended up atrociously chocking with both Orin and Okuu, I only captured like 4 spells if I combine them which is pretty lame if you ask me. But at least my early stages were clean af so there's that, Satori is surprisingly easy with this shoot type.
Now I'll go back to EoSD, the 19th anniversary is enough motivation for me to try to defeat Flandre for the first time.

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Finally did it, beat PCB on easy mode with Reimu A and B!
But can someone tell me why extra stage is so much easier than the base game on normal mode? I can reach Ran well enough with four lives, but Prismrivers hand me my ass whenever I just approach them.

>> No.36048611

>>36047882
Nice, Flan's going to be a cakewalk for you at this point.

>> No.36049031

>>36048499
pcb's "extra" isn't the real extra

>> No.36049116

>>36049031
It's still pretty hard tho.

>> No.36049884

>>36048499
Reaching an extra boss is waaaay different than beating them.
>Prismrivers hand me my ass whenever I just approach them.
Which character are you playing? Their attacks change depending on your character.
I miss stage 4 bosses that did that.

>> No.36050252

>>36048499
>I can reach Ran
That's what? 20% of the actual stage?

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