/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

>deletes pixiv account
>starts posting to twitter with no tags on their work, or anything else to set it out among their other random pictures and no archiving
>deletes twitter account
>makes a new one
>does the same thing
Why are Japanese artists like this?

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TG;DR

[Anonymous No.]

Westerners send them insulting messages and threats when they draw things they don't like.

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>>35565549
I would give you an answer, but I'm honestly just too curious to not ask the following; who are you quoting?

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The ancient asian concept of 一期一会
Seriously speaking japs are just as paranoid as you are of crazy kiwifarms stalkers are going to dox and harass their family. They delete everything to rebrand with a new pseudonym and you should respect their privacy.

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The ancient asian concept of 膣内射精

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>>35565568
Wrong, because I follow at least 20 artists that don't even interact with westerners and they still do this shit.

>>35565549
It's becuase of the social anxiety meme.

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>>35566436
translate it, weebs

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>>35566689
"This meal is very delicious." It's very polite to say this after a meal from your host mother.
It's pronounced "chitsunai shasei".

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>>35565549
Artists are mentally ill regardless of their nationality

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>>35566863
/jp/ is full of artists?

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>>35565549
asian shame i think?
Sometimes i feel it too. I want to delete all of my shit because i feel it looks like shit and everyone is judging me
t. asian

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>>35566877
he means artists are generally people that would be considered on the spectrum if not just creepy in how they look at things, breaking them down.
case in point, people hate being stared at.

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>>35565568
true

this holds for all Japanese culture though, westerners shit up the whole scene

I wish Japan had there own platform instead of using Twitter which is overrun by American sjw's, a Japanese language social media would be ideal as a way to gatekeep a lot more, which is needed

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>>35569890
>I wish Japan had there own platform
Pawoo is kinda like that.

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>>35565549
I'd normally call you a gigantic faggotron for teh epic meme arrows text on /jp/ but you're so goddamn right it makes me want to rant about how fucking awful twitter is as a place to post art.
Twitter doesn't have a proper gallery or a tagging system or anything, maybe the artists sometimes use hashtags? Doesn't matter since they don't usually do it anyways plus there's nothing I love more than having to scroll through a billion photos of food and gacha rolls before I find whatever drawing I was looking for. Twitter has more reach for people to find shit and follow you but it sucks ass if you're intentionally looking up something, this is why tags on sites like Pixiv are so important.
The right call for twitter would be to make an option for art-oriented accounts that have galleries with tags and shit so you can look up and find stuff by means other than popularity and word of mouth. Just when we thought the way we organised and found shit on the Internet was getting smarter and easier twitter comes by and shits on all that.
Also as everyone pointed out artists tend to by mentally ill to a degree.

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>>35565549
we've learned that lesson long ago. Start saving the shit you like because someday it will be gone.

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>>35569890
Hopefully more will move to Mastodon and Pleroma. Twitter having control is very bad.

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>>35571347
Only right call for twitter is stop existing, its shithole that no one really needs and better alternatives exist. Its just sad that some artists are just too lazy to use two different platforms for they social shit and art uploads.

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>>35571628
>Mastodon and Pleroma
yeah that ain't happening any time soon

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>>35569890
Pixiv is that tho

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>>35566765
Don't do this
It creates nerve gas

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>>35571347
You forgot the most important part, the fact that Twitter compresses images, thus they will never be as high a quality as on Pixiv or other dedicated art sites.

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>>35565549
In some cases it is artists throwing a fit about their art getting posted to sites like Danbooru.

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>>35572571
What the fuck do they expect? They keep deleting their shit for no reason.

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>>35565549
Who are you quoting?

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I fucking hate any artist who does this shit. I can't even blame SJWs because Japs have been doing this shit since the early days of Pixiv. They just nuke it all for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to filter art on Pixiv by the location of the IP that uploaded it? Getting real tired of seeing western art on it.

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>>35571347
I hate it how you can't access /media without an account any more. It used to be a good way to filter out text-only posts and retweets.

Automatic scraping is an option, but it doesn't always work since Twitter's API is straight up broken.

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>>35565549
Who are you quoting?

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>>35565549
Bout time they learn to keep their fucking accounts private and not accept followers from random fuckers with public accounts without checking their likes first. Private accounts can fucking piss off. Only way to avoid the sjws.

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>>35574495
>Getting real tired of seeing western art on it.
Same. The only workaround is hearting the stuff you like, and Pixiv will automatically suggest recommendations on the homepage, which will usually be more JP artists.

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>>35574495
You can input ”lang:ja” in the search field

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>>35565568
You are fucking retarded if you think this only started happened because of gaijins.

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>>35565549
That one artist who went from drawing Kekkai Sensen to Conan to Genshin while deleting all of their stuff during every transition. They're the reason I started keeping twitter media archives.

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>>35572558
They've stopped doing that a while ago. At least for static images. Videos and gifs are still compressed to hell though.

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>>35575010
What would that fix? They type and tag in Japanese too.

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>>35574495
Nope.

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Would have been awful if a relative found all that loli porn you have stashed in an external hard drive in case it gets deleted, right? Better to let it all disappear. The past is a snake waiting to wrap around and bite you in the ass.

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>>35577858
>>35577858
it wont even need to be relative, probably goverments gather this data just so they get leverage on people, if some /jp/ies or any other with goals aganist current statusquo gets to point of too much power, and therefore cementing their own power structure.
It dont have to be even loli stuff it could be just visiting site that have or had any of it, and they have you by balls, which is fucking bullshit.

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>>35577858
Anon, could I ask what happened? It sounds like something really scary happened to you.

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>>35578195
Sucks bro

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>>35578195
>t dont have to be even loli stuff it could be just visiting site that have or had any of it
well, we're all fucked then

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>>35577858
>Would have been awful if a relative found all that loli porn you have stashed in an external hard drive in case it gets deleted, right?
why would you have an unencrypted external hard drive in the first place?

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>>35572045
Use to be, but they allow westerns on now. Of course the quality has declined to just above Deviantart at this point.

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>>35575586
It's where most of the Twitter cancelations are coming from. Thankfully they only have the power to fuck with them on Twitter, not in Japan where they could easily have their professional lives ruined in America or Europe.

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>>35578195
>if some /jp/ies or any other with goals aganist current statusquo gets to point of too much power
If they get to that point, they can just lobby for loli to be legal without question.

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>>35580357
>Of course the quality has declined to just above Deviantart at this point.
There was always crap on pixiv.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9/artworks?order=date

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>>35582071
I don't see any problem with the art in the link you posted.

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>>35582231
You already went through all two million pics? Anyways it's the same variety quality as the stuff we get now. I don't see a ton of western artists on pixiv and the bad ones are about the same as the bad japanese artists.

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>>35582292
*same quality as the stuff we get now.
Christ

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There's nothing wrong with western art.

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>>35582292
>You already went through all two million pics?
I'm afraid I don't get the point you're trying to make anymore. Of course I didn't go through all two million pics, but that seems to discredit your own argument. If you have something specific to say, don't just point me to a link and expect me to click through more than the link that you post.
>I don't see a ton of western artists on pixiv and the bad ones are about the same as the bad japanese artists.
Oh, didn't realize I was talking to one of you. Feel free to not respond.

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>>35582231
?

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>>35582455
What seems to be the trouble, officer?

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>>35582569
Nothing at all. Carry on with your regularly scheduled thread.

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>>35582623
You want me to reverse the ordering and start posting shitty western fetish commissions, or what? Your first picture is cute, the second is amateurish and still cute.

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>>35582675
This is a blue board, and Japanese artists aren't immune to shitty fetish commissions.

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>>35566399
Do they have their own version of Kiwifarm?

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>>35571748
Fediverse user here
The Japanese basically completely overtook us overnight and as far as I'm aware, they're still overall more numerous than anyone else on the fedi. They mostly keep to themselves tho'.
They're a tad annoying to follow because some of them take their timeline as some sort of live chat without even replying to the message it's supposed to be directed so, so you get a shitload of 0 context nonsense shit

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>>35582441
>I'm afraid I don't get the point you're trying to make anymore
let me simplify it for your pea brain.
He means that there is a varying level of quality that can be seen even back before westerners were posting. Saying it's shit now because westerners are on the platform doesn't hold up because there has always been terrible art even before them.
Bad art is bad art, regardless of whether it's western or Japanese originated.

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>>35565549
Inexplicable SNS behavior is usually a sign of mental illness. People who drawn porn images of 2D characters are usually mentally unhealthy.

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>>35571347
>Doesn't matter since they don't usually do it anyways plus there's nothing I love more than having to scroll through a billion photos of food and gacha rolls before I find whatever drawing I was looking for.
It doesn't help when they find something else to draw and you have to figure out which is which since they don't leave anything in the post to figure out what character it is.

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>>35582784
I'm glad you've made your "Western art is as good (or bad) as Japanese art" position clear. I don't think there's anything else we have left to discuss.

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>>35582882
>we
I only made it simple for you to understand, seeing how you refused to do so before.

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>>35582784
The man is saying the truth. There was always bad art on Pixiv. Maybe the overall quality is a few notch better than Deviantart in general, but there's still some utter crap posting by Japanese users

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>>35565549
they want fanbox subcriber from twatter, jumping from trend to trend just to gain attention, and delete disposable account when they have enough

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>>35577858
Whoa dude you mean you've looked at porn before? Get out of here you fucking pervert

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>>35572571
how would deleting their account even prevent that though?

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>>35577858
I don't speak with any anti-pedo relatives, nor do I let them into my house. They are insane and don't deserve any respect.

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>>35574974
pixiv recommendations are addicting

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>>35565549
social networking and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

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>>35565568
Not convinced of that. Every time I witnessed that behaviour, Westerners had nothing to do with that. See: >>/jp/thread/33578796#p33725346

Every time, it's just their usual mental instability taking over. I wonder why the most creative and unique of them always and up like that. And it's the ones who involves less who last.

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>>35565549
you wouldn't get it

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>>35566399
I will never, ever respect someone deleting art.

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>>35571347
>having to scroll through a billion photos of food and gacha rolls
Good lord. Why do they do this? Why do they think that people care about their gacha rolls?

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>>35565568
So? I get 500 insulting messages a day on various sites, and I don't freak out about it.

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>>35580470
And cancelations aren't the same thing as artists deleting everything on autism fit because they realized they drew one pixel wrong and now must commit honorable sudoku because of how embarrassed they are for that.
Fucking retard. Cancel yourself.

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>>35572571
Why do they hate that so much if it's not their fanbox rewards? Does it impact their following because people aren't forced to visit their social media page? If anything it seems like it would spread their name around even more.

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>>35587482
Believe it or not there are actually quite a few shithole countries where loli hentai is banned, and some countries even have the AoC as high as 18. Nobody would want there lives destroyed simply over having some porn featuring fictional cartoon characters, right?

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>>35580470
JP artist are menhera, they just feel like doing that with no further explanation, not because of westerners, obviously some did because of retards

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>>35575389
>sjw
go back

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>>35605134
Congrats, you're a retard.

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>>35565549
God I fucking hate Japanese artists.

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Art belongs to the artist, not to you. You aren't entitled to keep viewing it forever just because you saw it once.

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>>35565568
Westerns aren't behind everything. Sometimes artists just quit, they don't want the fame or attention. When they start to get momentum they toss the account and just using another one or keep their art to themselves.

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>>35575677
>They've stopped doing that a while ago.
I'm pretty certain that's false because I have to sort images by dimensions and not file size to find duplicates when I save an artist's stuff from pixiv and twitter

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>>35580470
Gaijin didn't make them stop using twitter, use no tags and post pictures of their food/gacha so much it's impossible to filter through it all.

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>>35604976
>Believe it or not there are actually quite a few shithole countries where loli hentai is banned
>and some countries even have the AoC as high as 18
Uh, dude.
What does the latter have to do with former?
I'm not opening the can of worms to debate the latter, but that interjection does not strengthen your justification on fictional things which have little to no IRL consequences.

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I suspect some don't use hashtags or even any description because they're afraid of spamming the character's search results. Though this would only apply to artists with a high amount of output.
Basically the same mix of anxiety plus "honor" culture that's been mentioned before. It's stupid but I have to admit I'm impressed by artists that pull thousands in twitter bucks without any descriptive text.

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>>35582231
>I don't see any problem with the art in the link you posted.
you goddamn nigger

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>>35612941
yeah but all humans are actually one being so it also belongs to me

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>>35575677
Twitter said they'd stop compressing "well optimized images" and overall I think they said they wouldn't compress the other images as badly anymore. They're definitely still compressing images a little and I don't think they ever explained their criteria for what they consider a well optimized image.

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>>35615580
None of those are Touhous inflating before being stepped on and turned into toe jam to be anal vored, as typical of western art.

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>>35616656
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/84018646

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>>35616588
Their criteria are still completely random to me. Once I submitted a very small PNG and it got recompressed to a nasty JPEG... that was heavier than the original submitted PNG! And that was only last year. I ignore if their algorithm improved since (I doubt so, I still have to run 90% of saved images from Twitter into Waifu2X Caffe to clean them to this day).

[Anonymous No.]

They should just paywall all their work so uncultured westerners can't seethe and mass report their shit unless they actually contribute.

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>>35599769
are you producing anything of value? something tied up with your professional identity and your livelihood? if not, then probably the only reason you're able to be so carefree is that you know you have nothing to lose. social media is objectively terrifying once you have a brand.

t. artist who started out on DA and CA.org in a different era and never used to feel nervous about posting his work but got a friend to handle his social media because it became too stressful

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>>35616730
Doesn't count.

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>>35616730
Anon, that's well drawn and has effort put into it. We're talking about shit quality & dumb fetishy art. If western art was that well done, I wouldn't give a shit about what dumb fetishes it had.

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>>35616787
>seethe
Get out of /jp/

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>>35616787
Again what are you all talking about? Don't link any videos to explain what your angle is, because this has been happening before all the western sites got involved.

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also
>watermarking
>paywalling

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>>35618649
Patreon tier

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>>35565549
attention maybe? Twitter seems to have more reach or get more support, since there are more casuals who don't bother about a character or anything but if a picture of a naked chick comes across their account they give a like

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>>35618649
I know it's entitled to get annoyed at this shit but god damn it feels like everything I see on Pixiv these days is just a sampler for a Fanbox post.

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>>35618818
I think it's fair for R-18 edits since you at least have one complete image out in public, but just having teasers is actively annoying. It's like their entire work is paywalled rather than just select images.

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>>35565549
Artist is one letter away from Autist

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all japanese are retarded

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>>35615580
You have never been to deviantart if you think that's legit terrible, it's amateur-tier cutesy art and its got nothing on monstrosities like these. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Though I do agree there's some awful japanese art on Pixiv.

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>>35619448
Don't be a snob anon. All art is valid.

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>>35619707
we don't use that kind of language around here. and no, I don't mean snob

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>>35619742
There is obvious less talented art stuff but no need to be elitist about it, everyone have to start from somewhere, and most of them stop producing because of assholes like you.

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>>35619773
no they don't. I'm an artist, and having someone make fun of your bad art doesn't matter. it's not a moral judgement, just a judgement of quality. the thing that makes artists quit (or at least start again under a new name) is being treated like subhumans for political reasons or because they accidentally made enemies of some autistic fanbase.
>no need to be elitist
seriously, where do you think you are?

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>>35619292
Hitler was an artist

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>>35582711
2ch and 5ch are the closest equivalent of KF I think, they have threads for making fun of bad Pixiv art, but read again - threads dedicated to spergs who draw bad art, not good artists who would not need to worry about obsessive autists harassing them.

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>>35619836
He was a wannabe architect, they're the real lunatics.

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>>35574495
There are a few Westerners on Pixiv who draw art almost identically to Japs, but sadly the majority of them do not do that, I still have some hope that maybe more Western artists will start drawing like authentic Japs.

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>>35619819
Been here probably longer than you, i still dont see that we have to be elitist about art, if we want to still see that oc /jp/ stuff, but then again we might aswell stop people posting art since it won't be on par with your arbitary tastes.

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>>35619916
If you're so prideful that you go full defense mode over any amount of negative feedback, then you're never going to learn from your mistakes and get better anyway, so nothing of value is lost.
I used to drawfag for /tg/ quests back when my art was truly atrocious, and the comments I got were usually nothing but encouraging and appreciative. the occasional snide remark really should not bother anyone who is even minimally well-adjusted emotionally.

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>>35619885
If only. Though I'd say pixiv's issue with bad art has more to do with how you can't sort through quality. You can pay to sort by popularity, but obviously you have to pay. Some series have special tags that show when an image has over 100/500/1000/etc favorites but they don't always show up.

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>>35617814
It think it's only partly shit quality, and rather that weebs tend to be turned off by "toon" style works.
And to say that toon quality is inherently shit brings into question the animation background which Western and Eastern styles diverged. Doesn't mean you need to like it of course.

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>>35623571
Haha yeah those silly weebs amirite.

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>>35623594
I'm not putting down weebs, or rather people who like Japanese style of cartoons/animation, by saying they prefer one style over another. That includes myself.
I'm saying that things which they don't like is also a matter of developed taste into particular styles, rather than just a question of whether some artist put craft, effort, and (optionally) originality into their work.

If you think, for an example you can replace with another niche, all western toon furry artists inherently make low quality art, I think you're looking on something to hate because they populate spaces you browse and don't pander to you. Which is a great way to be pissed off all the time without anyone even trying to do so.

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>>35623650
You're not pissed off all the time?

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>>35623693
Can't say I am.
If I legitimately can't stand how a space is populated and I have no say in how the space is managed, I find another or make a new one.

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>>35623707
>or make a new one.
Great idea, I'll just make another Pixiv.

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Japanese are fucking autistic, I live with 3 japanese girls and 1 japanese guy and all of them are on the fucking spectrum.

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>>35623650
>I think you're looking on something to hate because they populate spaces you browse and don't pander to you.
Westerners and furries already had their places, and I wasn't angry at them then. I can be angry when they come to shit up Japanese sites.
>>35623707
>If I legitimately can't stand how a space is populated and I have no say in how the space is managed, I find another or make a new one.
This argument makes no sense in the context of fucking subhuman western pieces of talentless trash shitting up Pixiv.

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>>35623735
>I live with 4 Japanese roommates who happen to be autistic
>Japanese are fucking autistic

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>>35623765
>>I live with 4 Japanese roommates who happen to be autistic
That's not what he wrote. Please to do not be misuing the quotes feature.

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>>35623728
Or use niconico seiga. Or one of the *boorus, or something else. Or run an archiver on your own machine for artists you like using something like hydra and just spend time finding new artists; that's what I do actually. I'm not saying they are ideal or even better, but you should at least try them out since they do populate around the same niche as Pixiv.
And if nothing you find is appealing enough that it adversely affects your life and causes you to vent, doing nothing to mitigate the venting, either by resolving the problem or the mentality which leads you to vent on it, is the least satisfying option.
>>35623747
>This argument makes no sense in the context of fucking subhuman western pieces of talentless trash shitting up Pixiv.
It sure does when you can't do anything to stop them, especially since they are using the site in a way the owners find tolerable without regard to how you perceive them.
I'm not saying "seethe," or "cope," or anything like that. I'm saying that unless you buy Pixiv out that condition will only change when those artists leave of their own accord, and the discussion is essentially lamenting on that over and over again.

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>>35623765
Bit of context

Japanese guy
>never talks unless spoken to
>works all day at a restaurant
>goes to surfing all day during weekends
>comes home and locks himself in his room waxing his surfboards or checking tomorrow's weather


Japanese girl 1
>also never talks unless spoken to
>student at a uni
>works during weekends
>comes home and locks herself in her room
Seen her a grand total of 3 times in my 6 month stay with her.

Japanese girl 2:
>loud as fuck
>slams the door whenever she can
>never properly flushes the toilet
>pisses in the empty bath tub and forgets to wash it out

Japanese girl 3:
>also loud as fuck
>works at a brothel
>sun bathes in the garage driveway


They are all so fucking weird.

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>>35624016
Cool blog dude, where do I subscribe?

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>>35623774
Go find someone else to bother kudasai because frankly I don't give a shit

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>>35624040
Right here *unzips*

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>>35624043
epic dude fucking epic

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>>35623650
No, it's not style, it's effort. It's shitty, flat, no-line variation, colored-poorly-in-crayon art of the dumbest fetishes you can think of populating the searches of characters you like. Shit that looks like it was drawn by an autistic 3 year old and then handed to their mommy who patted them on the head and pinned it to the fridge. It's a symptom of a culture where people expect to be praised for doing instead of for trying. I hate artists, including Japanese, who draw nearly exclusively SD for a cheap attempt at cuteness instead of making an effort to be a better artist as well, but westerners think things like drawing some shit template and recoloring the hair, eyes, and skin is worth marketing. (and I mean they -are- correct if it sells, but it's shitty and no-effort.) They think people want to see their poorly drawn image of a foot. I'd rather fucking look at the Japs who think they're hot shit because they redrew a frame of an anime.

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drawings are drawings
also, like someone in this thread said
>The past is a snake waiting to wrap around and bite you in the ass.

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>>35565549
>Why are Japanese artists like this?
They're actively trying to keep out westerners because westerners steal and repost their art without crediting them and then basically tell them to fuck off when they bitch about it.

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>>35620012
Hardly beign defensive and nothing wrong about feedback but you clearly won't tolerate any subpar content, and good for you if you get encouraging and appreciative comments about your work but people clearly won't get them from you.

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>>35612941
don't care, still archiving

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>>35619707
crossie and/or twitterfag
i suspect you're also the same person as >>35612941

[Shino (KemonoDev) !usfh//8hJ. No.]

>>35618649
If only there was a site that could do something about that.

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>>35612941
I'm not entitled to pirate music, TV shows and movies but I do it anyways. I'd do the same to art if the artist were to ever delete their content for no reason.

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>>35629498
>>35629553
I didn't say don't archive, if anything you should if you really like it, I'm just saying you have no right to complain about it no longer being available at the source one day because the artist took it down.

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>>35582455
I really like looking at this drawing therefore it is high quality

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>>35624571
this is the answer, foreigners are shitting up everything whenever they get their nose into Japanese culture

[Anonymous No.]

>>35624016
The ones that come to the west seem to have a lot of issues, especially the girls, half of them end up getting tattoos and doing other things to rebel against their culture and end up hating everything and many start to hook up with the western sjw scene that also hate everything that is good

[Anonymous No.]

>>35630789
Still, there's our right to at least discuss about it. I'm not really a fan of that mentality putting an artist's wishes (or the artist himself) on a pedestal, only because he creates content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35624571
That does happen, but Japanese artists deleting their shit for absolutely no reason has been happening since the early days of pixiv. You can't blame westerners for that one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35618649
what's even worse are artists that paywall commissions
like goddamn you already got your money and you want to double dip when there's dozens of other artists drawing the same trend chasing garbage?

[Anonymous No.]

I just wanted to say thank you to all the anons who back up artists' works to exh. Used to think it was a waste of time but lately I've seen a lot of artists just go and nuke all their stuff with no warning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35565549
Mono no aware, unironically. Obsessing with a flawed conception of "permanence" usually just weighs a person down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35577858
It's what you deserve, Pedo

[Anonymous No.]

>>35582387
This.

You weeb faggots will never Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35642910
>I'm not really a fan of that mentality putting an artist's wishes (or the artist himself) on a pedestal, only because he creates content.
You could ask what did the fans do, that they have such selfish feelings? They didn't create, they probably didn't pay, they may even have pirated paid content, but yet they feel that their feelings and needs are more important than the artist's and that somehow the artist's work belongs to them or everyone.

Like imagine your neighbor made a beautiful sculpture in their yard that you spend hours looking at every day. Then one day they took it down and scrapped it. Could you imagine yourself storming over to their house, knocking on their door, and angrily demanding to know how they could have the gall to take down that sculpture and explaining to them how the sculpture was important for their neighbors to view and now they can't and it's all their fault?

[Anonymous No.]

>>35612941
Yeah. Luck with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35565568
spbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>35643026
Unless they are feminists from Argentina
https://www.byocosplay.com/argentine-artist-who-held-an-exhibition-with-paintings-about-eva-peron-inspired-by-anime-accused-of-plagiarism/

[Anonymous No.]

>>35565568
"Your art needs more diversity! Add more black people! What are you, a bigot?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>35647908
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>35645123
I'm not the kind of person you're describing, not even in the slightest. I think there are still huge misunderstandings in the relationships between artists and their viewers to this day. For some reason, everyone seems to think all viewers are an evil entity meant to bully and be rude to artists.

It doesn't even feel like me at all. I'm the kind who gladly supports any artist I particularly enjoy by supporting them through Patreon or Fanbox and buying their merch (I do have plenty of artbooks to stare at, this way noone can come to my house and rip them off my hands). Where does that evil depiction of viewers come from? I'm sure there are more nicer viewers like me than one think. A sudden deletion can make me sad and really upset, but never to the point of being rude and pissed off to an artist who did such move. I always seek polite and sensible discussion rather than conflict.

If I was to use your example again, I'd kindly ask one day to those neighbours where did that sculpture go and if they kept it by any chance. And that would stop here. And if they'd reply negatively, I'd simply tell them "Well, that's too bad." and kindly ask for the reason and that would be it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35565568
also (((westerners))): REEE STOP USING TWITTER, POST ART THE WAY I WANT YOU TO

[Anonymous No.]

>(((westerners))): REEE
The /jp/ tourism board is hard at work these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35612941
>Art belongs to the artist, not to you.
Now look in the mirror and say "copyright copyright"
If your art is gone and you didn't delete it yourself, you know why.
The fact that art is made public is a nonverbal statement from the creator that they want people to see it. You don't get to decide who sees it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35616588
>>35616753
These are the current conditions, i think
htthttps://twitter.com/NolanOBrien/status/1281639461470662656

[Anonymous No.]

>>35647908
>>35651290
Get out of /jp/ 'kudasai'

[Anonymous No.]

>>35604679
Yeah it's so much easier to find artists through SauceNao and danbooru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35624016
>I generalize an entire people based on stupid college kids.
Yeah, that'll get you far in life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35644862
>will never Japanese
How do you Japanese?

[Casey Anthony No.]

Japanese get very embarrassed very easily. They're not necessarily shy, just very sensitive. As someone who used to do this, I can speak from experience that it has to do with sensitivity. The anime industry is very unforgiving, unfortunately. Rabid (Chinese) "fans" will turn on artists an producers in an instant. Japs need sensitivity training.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35651589
I blame vtubers.
>>35655518
Danbooru is flawed and far from complete. It's definitely driven by the curator's preferences since not all of an artist's work is selected. The only upside is a more complete set of tags as opposed the usual pixiv combination of series + character name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35662100
Also you have to fucking pay a pass to see lolicon and shotacon. Screw that noise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>35655518
>Danbooru
What about Gelbooru