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[Anonymous No.]

JUST

AS

RANNED

[Anonymous No.]

>>3544227
That never happened.

[Anonymous No.]

I wanna do her so bad. I hope there is and ending for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3544371
There is no ending, only two scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to be a part of Daidouji's fanclub.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3544371
She's not one of the "major" female characters.
You can get an H scene by clearing her the old-fashioned way: recruit her, raise affection a million times, meet some special condition (in this case, not have any Diviners in your army).
Alternatively if you leave her in jail long enough you can get her with no effort at all (there's also an H scene for this), she just won't join your army.

[Anonymous No.]

Ran was a bitching bitch and Daidouji is a jealous attention whore. My favourite Houjou character is Souun, at least he is a usable Diviner and has a sense of responsibility

[Anonymous No.]

>>3544516

Thank you very much, dear anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3544523
But I like jealous attention whores.

It felt pretty good tying her up and fucking her.

Also, twintails.

[Anonymous No.]

So. I finally installed the copy of Rance 1.04 I'd had on my hard drive for a few weeks, then added the 1.0 patch. When I tried starting it up, to test it out, I got this error message after the little miko sweeping movie, which is on an endless loop if one tries clicking ok, and shuts the program down if one chooses cancel.

I installed it in Japanese region mode, tried it in both regions, get the same result. So, can anyone tell me what this says?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3544851
Game disk is not in drive.
Please insert the disk and press ok.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3544868
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.]

when should I conquer the miko shrine?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545131
The sooner the better.
After Hara and Ashikaga is a good idea.
Make sure Rance has Attack or Defense 6.

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>3545131
>>3545135
Also try to capture Himiko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545131
As soon as possible, possibly after Ashikaga. Natori-chan is the best miko unit you can have and after her you can advance (on) to Uesugi

[Anonymous No.]

Tell me 10 reasons to play this game.
Convince me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545149
should I give natori rances love?
someone said if you get her to full affection you get get a sat bonus

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545150
Find it out yourself, it's not our job to make you play a game

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545150
There aren't 10 good reasons. Maybe if you asked for just 5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545150
No.
Go fuck yourself and seek attention elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545157
Does not work that way.
Natori only gives 5 Sat when you conquer Yamatai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545142
I've heard that Natori was good, but when I got he in my First Game, I have to disagree. Can she gain some good abilities?
And how is this Himiko girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545170
er rances affection level up I meant

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545178
Miko Storm 2, one of the Big Three game-breaking abilities in Sengoku Rance, is not good enough for you?

[Anonymous No.]

Question on the Brute Photo!
If I dismiss someone it's equipped on, will I get it back?
Also, is there any chance to get more than one from the item shop/a dungeon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545182
Again, no,
When you fuck her after conquering Yamatai you get one.
Also, after you raise her to trust, you can (randonly) fuck her in Rance's room and gain another.
>>3545178
7's for stats, and has 'Field Battle expert' ability.
Plus, monks are welcome for dungeons.
Not worth a Rance love, though.

Either Baba or Senhime are Good choices.
And Komatsou if you do not mind the scaling and big upgrades she needs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545189
hows it broken? only does 30% damage to everyone. Uruza's attack all fucked everyone up

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545189
I've used her regular Miko Storm which is shit. Alright, when I get her I'll get that.

And what are the other two?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545192
It should be.
Not sure.

Also, no.
If you do a dungeon that has an item you already have, you either get a random item or a lv2 Textbook.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545199
oh. Is the rance's room random or on a cycle.

like can I save scum it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545157
I think they meant an Affection bonus, like the first time you have sex with her. Not sure how many times you can repeat it, but it probably wasn't intended to be able to get it more than twice.
Rance's Love would otherwise be wasted on her since her one selling point is her Miko Storm 2, which isn't affected by stats or the number of troops Natori has.
>>3545150
Why 10 reasons? It's an awesome strategy RPG, that's the only reason you'd want to play it.
I could list a bunch of cool facts about it, like "you can kill the monkey" or "Rance's theme (and therefore the theme that plays during sex scenes) is actually a remix of Auferstanden aus Ruinen, East Germany's national anthem", but what would be the point? These are minor details.

It's a goddamn awesome strategy RPG. That's why you play it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545200
>>3545201
30% Damage of their OVERALL health.
Not current. Aka, she can also kill units
Bypasses guard, and comes out fast.
When you face units with 5000 troops and 4 footmen, you suddenly realize she is a fucking god.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545206
Damn. Would've made things a shit ton easier if I had two. Now I'm going to have to waste my affection items on characters I don't even want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545207
Should be random, and if there are no priority events, it's a Start-of-turn-event.
If you do the triggers, Rance fucks her soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545224
Remember the +3 Affection Sat bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545207
It's on a cycle, just like books from levies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545220
Who's Aka?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545189
Other than this one and Uruza's what's the 4th?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545192

Yes

>>3545200

Early game 30% hp damage to all isn't much. When the Demon Army shows up, you start playing on a higher difficulty, or a combination of these two, it is a god send. as you can pretty much win battles via battle rating abuse with her alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545234
Oh, fuck you.
>>3545235
You mean 3d.
>>3545232
Shouldn't it change depending on characters ypou open up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545234
lern2english perhaps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545231
Yeah, but that doesn't ALWAYS come up

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545243
rather than pointing out my mistake wouldn't it be better if you answered my question?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545250
No.
Because I'm not that guy, and I have a different ranking and categorizing of skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545248
It should be of the most prevalent ones(After you choose Rance attack, Elite troops, and the ones that regard specific troops like Shibata, Maeda and Akechi, either by firing them or selecting the choices)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545254
should I do the Shibata, Maeda and Akechi upgrades?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545252
You could guess a third ability, i'm just clueless the only thing I can think of is either battle rating up/down or Chino's poisoning skill, which isn't that great by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I recruit Seigan (the dude with the scythe)? Is he Second Game only?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545259
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545259
Nah.
Just do not conquer Tenshin, agree to truce, and have 2 commanders spots and NP available.
DO check the wiki and guides a bit.
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:Walkthrough

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545235

Comabt Abilities are:

Omachi (large lightning)
generic musketeer in Shimazu (essentially an instant large lightning, might be FFA only)
Natori (Miko Storm 2)
Seigan (Death's Scythe, Kenshin route only)
Uruza (-1 actions to all, can make someone run out of turns)

Passives that are god-tier:

Kenshin (-1/-2 actions to all depending on route, can not make someone run out of turns)
Gekko (Assassinate+ always kills anyone without actions. Combine with Kenshin and Uruza and no one but that damn raccoon dog in Tenshi can survive.)
Takeda Generals (Fuurinzaken means never needing to boost troop size until end game, going for 30k troops, or wanting to get Moko's wooden tebasaki sex scene)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545257
only maeda the others are shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545257
Shibata's raises his intelligence and speed by 2 I think.

For the other guys there stats just raise a little but only after you do them twice. Not really worth it imo, unless you can get your Sat points very high enough to afford wasting two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545259
>>3545263

The wiki is wrong; Seigan is only available in Kenshin's route, so feel free to destroy them in all others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545268

Only raises each by 1. Only advantages he has over Maeda are more actions and 1 extra speed after healing. Not bad for just 1 SAT bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545263
Oh, so you DON'T conquer Tenshi. So when does the truce activate? Do I have to wait until the Temple event with Oda, or will it happen after a few turns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545264
Shit Uruza is good. And to think I was just planning to ignore Zeth entirely and just go for troops from Lezeaus. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545274

Truce occurs after temple incident when either you or Tenshi attacks each other. Don't bother wasting troops to defend as it'll come up regardless of whether you win or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545269
That can't be true. On my first playthrough I agreed to peace with Tenshi after the first fight with Xavier, and got Seigan in a beginning-of-turn event several turns later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545264
How do I get this Gekko guy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545278

Be warned, she uses up all of her actions when activating that attack. Another plus to it is that it interrupts any prep attack, including those that take 2 shurikens to interrupt. Will not penetrate guard shiki.

She's also a decent dungeon crawler, being one of the highest level back rows with decent number of attacks. Pity that she's a tad slow without speed boost (either speed luck or start with it each level).

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545279
Ok, after. Thanks.

[MolesterJim No.]

>>3545281
>>3545279
>>3545274
>>3545269
Seigan appears on True Route too.
Truce appears AFTER the Temple events.
>>3545282
Choose Additional character Bonus at a 2nd playthrough.
Conquer Hara immediately.
Colorless event on turn 7 should appear

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545282

Only available after first playthrough, select Can Get Additional Characters or something in the house bonus section. Must conquer Hara and have 3 NP available by turn 9 to recruit, select Lightning on a Clear Day.

>>3545281

Then he is an extremely low priority event, as I have never gotten him in any playthrough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545289
You need TWO commander spots available as he brings Genri over, and the appropriate NP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545283
I see.

Does anon recommend getting the troops from Lezeaus or Zeth?

I don't have the space to get both, unless they're all REALLY good, I'll regretfully fire some folks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545290

I've had 40 available NP and 4 commander slots open just for them and the Isoroku route played through itself before they ever joined. Does he require Kouhime to be alive to join?

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

Anyone knows what's the requirement to get the Akechi SAT bonus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545297
You should get them all.
Only the first reinforcements from each are mediocre.
And even then, Kanami is of the fastest units in the game and comes with a lot of troops(good for a battle permit).
Plus, all of them give Sat.

[Anonymous No.]

im pretty sure you can get seigen in true history

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545304
I like Kanami, but not Rizna.

How is Magic? Wiki says nothing on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545310
I like her. She comes with higher stats than rizna and has is tsun tsun

[Anonymous No.]

I didnt use battle permits in my first game. I'm taking it that they're pretty useful so who should I give them to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545310
Of course it does, check the Captain Guides on the Wiki.
She gives you 10 Sat, Rance's Love, and can Learn White Destruction Beam, which bypasses guard and hits a horizontal row for increased damage.
Also, High level cap, but she is frail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545297

Leazus is the best overall for second runs, as Kanami comes with an extremely high troop count (I've had as large as 950), making her your top pick for a ninja battle permit user. Maria is also powerful but really shines when you boost her troop count (via pop. wand as 140/unit is too expensive for gold) and get her rapid tulip fire. Leila is also a useful unit, being a mix between a bushi and foot soldier but mainly for her Royal Guard Charge (double damage if current enemy troop count > own current troop count).

With Zeth you can stop after getting Uruza (second reinforcement) unless you really need Magic's White Destruction Beam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545317
The worst unit you have available that can get 1000 troops for that class.

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>3545297
All of them.
If you have the bonus characters selected (2nd game), then go for Lezeaus first two times (so you get Shizuka).
Then go all the way for Zeth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545269
God fucking damn, stop saying that. Seigan isn't only available in Kenshin route.

I got Seigan in True route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545304 Only the first reinforcements from each are mediocre

Actually, I find only Magic to be utterly useless. Kanami is meant to be a ninja battle permit user, Rizna has Angel Cutter, which combined with Demon (Monster/Youkai would probably be better term)-Only Chisel means you've got another Natori in Demon routes.Maria can practically kill any unit in the game given about 1500 troops +rapid tulip fire, or weaken them so that they'll kill themselves on their next attack. Uruza has Accurate Shots, random stat boosts and a better starting level and cap when compared to Magic, as well as not being as frail. By the time you get Magic, you really don't need her WDB unless you're on a first-run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545334
I don't like Magic so much either.
Some will say that you can't possibly pass on 10 easy Sat... but that's what it costs to get her in the first place, and if you've played through the game a few times you can just buy Rance's Love right from the start anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545334
Her WDB is always useful and she gives 10 Sat and Rance's love regardless.
Rizna is nowhere near as good or powerful as, just slightly useful by having an all attack(her 10 sat is more valuable)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545345
an all attack that fucks demons up

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545345

On Second+ runs, you should always start with Rance's Love. 10 SAT is nice, but comes in kind of late compared to easier to get but smaller SAT points early on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545354
No.
Does as much damage as her NORMAL attacks, since A-Cutter halfs normal damage.
So you hit with her low base attack everyone.
Not that fascinating.
>>3545356
More Sat is always welcome, and she can cripple a row in one attack.
Not getting her is a waste.

[Anonymous No.]

What is this "Rance's Love"?

Also, which dungeon has the popularity staff? Definitely need to get it, at least for my next game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545360

If you're going to cream yourself over WDB that much, you may as well just get Maria and Shizuka for 2 powerful units for the cost of 2 SAT bonuses (1 for Kanami, 1 for them) rather than 3 SAT bonuses just for Magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545360
Wait, what...
It's half normal damage on six targets, so isn't it 3 times normal damage? Plus Guard reduction on every Ashigaru in the enemy army.
More Sat is always welcome, except she costs 10 Sat to summon, so in the end she doesn't give any, she just borrows some.
To me, Magic is just a generic Mage unit. She isn't good or bad, she just is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545360 Does as much damage as her NORMAL attacks, since A-Cutter halfs normal damage.

No, read the description again. It deals double damage compared to her normal attack when used against Monks and Monsters. It only deals half damage against all others.

And don't discount the fact that she can hit everyone, as that can be a great tool in destroying guard percentage and guard shikis for other characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545370
Rance's Love is an item that can't be unequipped, but adds 2 Affection every turn. It's one of the best items in the game. You should clear Magic to get it ASAP so you can buy it in future games.
Dungeon drops are random every separate game. No one knows where the Popularity Staff might be in any given game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545370

Rance's Love is an item you get after clearing Magic (available for purchase as bonus item in future runs so long as you have obtained in a previous one). When equipped, it gives the unit 2 affection a turn, making it easier for that unit to get affection levels for a variety of reasons.

Pop. Staff is a random drop from dungeons. Or you could just spend your first 25 turns not attacking anyone to get it.

[Anonymous No.]

I got one in FFA mode through buddha statues so you might want to try that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545380
Since I get fucking Uruza through these choices, getting Magic too is not a waste, .
You do not have THAT many Sat options to choose to disregard reinforcements.
I'd rather have WDB at my arsenal too, strongest attack that bypasses barriers, save for Natori's situational 30%/
She is even easily clearable for points.
>>3545387
Only Maria and Rizna also give 10 Sat. Giving back what she takes in not bad at all/
There is no 'generic' mage unit, since originally it was just her and Rizna (Shizuka added later).
>>3545385
Again, far too few mosnter fights to be truly useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545427
I... didn't talk about monsters at all. I was just correcting your idea that A. Cutter is useless against nonmonster or nonmonk targets... it's not good, but it's still 3 times the damage of a normal attack (assuming 6 targets), with lowering of Guards and destruction of Shikigami Guards.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like Rizna much either... but you gotta grab her to get Uruza and that alone makes it worth grabbing her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545427 ou do not have THAT many Sat options to choose to disregard reinforcements.

I'd much rather take the -1 troop replenishment costs, +3 affection points to all, and +50 troops to all units than recruit Magic. Sure, she gives 10 SAT and a character clear. With the +3 Affection points, I can clear several characters at once while keeping a high turn score. With the +50 troops to each unit, I can get 30k troops that much quicker. The cheaper troop costs helps as well for battle permit spam and boosting troop size for the 30k bonus.

Speaking of points, in the amount of time it takes to get Magic's clear, I could just grab 6 Great Treasures for a slightly higher net point gain.

[Anonymous No.]

FFFFFFFFFFFFUCK YOU SLUTHIME

Everything was going smoothly until that bitch convinced takeda to war me. Mouri will want war too after a few turns. I can kill Iga whenever I want (I let them alive in order to not break the gourd until turn 70).

Any tips?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545586

Vassal Asai-Asakura and you won't have to deal with them making someone go to war with you. That, or use permits if you can and ignore whomever is attacking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545586
Sorry but it's hard to tell what you should do without knowing what your plans were.
Why go 70 turns without breaking the 5th gourd? Are you trying for some sort of completion run? Trying to clear specific events or something?

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>3545586
66 turns and still no Kenshin? Go get her NOW

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545586
How did the Hannys declare war on you without you having destroyed Tokugawa. Did you interrupt their trip to the capital, and if so, what the fuck for? Which IF route are you hoping to take here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545597

Or save her for the 5th gourd house to get so you don't have to deal with scaled up armies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545586
Take out Uesugi, recruit Kenshin, and crush Takeda.

Takeda is a lot easier to beat than you think. You only need to take their original two territories and they fall.

As for their blitz, at this point I doubt you will want to worry too much about getting their bonus, so let them take one or two areas and selectively defend.

So, basically, after Uesugi do a mad dash on Takeda lands.

[Anonymous No.]

Blatant mechanic manipulation is fun! But in hindsight, I probably should have broken the gourds ASAP instead of fucking around (doing an Agireda/Orochi clearing run).

[Anonymous No.]

For Kenshin route, is it alright to vassal Ashikaga or do you have to completely destroy them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545679
how the hell...
any tips?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545690
I have 240 points. I started with Takeda and One-Eye. You do the math.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545684
Why would you want to vassal them in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545694
>points
FFFFFFF
AS SOON AS I GET THAT MEMORY LOCATION I SWEAR TO GOD

[Anonymous No.]

For Yamamoto's route, is the event where you get those 2 generics extremely low priority? I had the route finish itself (since the game forces you to do the last fight) before ever getting them, with plenty of room in commander list (28/30) and NP (something around 80/120).

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545679
is there anything wrong with not breaking the gourds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545695

Complete the progress report.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545700
Well, in this case, it'll mean I get to spend more turns grinding Kentarou up to a high level, and I could conquer the rest of the map in 4 turns, while it takes the Demon Army 10 to appear after the Honnouji incident. And I'm going to have to sit through all of their beginning of turn events too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545702
Simple.

Make a save. Vassal them. Let the game auto-save. Then reload your previous save and crush them.

Cleared events are still retained when you reload, this can be done for other things in the future, ie. Takeda, Kenshin rape scene.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545684
Why wouldn't you be able to make them surrender? Because of Chousin's ring? You're not going to see that anyways, as somehow Keikoku gets her hands on it. At least, I'd assume so. Never actually tried.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545731
This is true for CGs, but not for the scene list. IE, I have the CG for Kenshin's rape, but "Kenshin violated" is still unmarked on my scene list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545731
While this works for character clears, this simply isn't true for the ones that are only updated at the end of the playthrough. I had to re-do my Houjou conquered (Souun) and half of my vassalizations when I'd operated under this assumption on one playthrough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545731
They are? The game specifically states they aren't saved until you finish the game... so it's misdirection?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545745
>>3545756
>>3545758
Ah, my bad then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545596
Actually I only have 3 gourds broken, but yeah, I'm delaying it to conquer as much as possible.
>>3545597
That's what I was going for.
>>3545608
I stopped them just for the sake of having that event checked in the game progress.

I think I will go for yamamoto's route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545742

I was reading the wiki and it says to enter the Kenshin route I need to destroy both Kenshin and Ashikaga houses. Now for the Kenshin house part, that's pretty hurr durr but with some of the other problems of the wiki, combined with trying to clear the progress report in as few games as possible, I'd like to know if conquering is required or if vassaling will suffice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545756
>>3545745
Aaaah, so he was just wrong... I thought it would have been pretty messed up if the game itself had been lying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545698
You only get those two Archers at the second Yamamoto event (first after discovering her village), and you need the NP and commander space _then_. IIRC.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you view the progress report? Is it at the end of a game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545798
The option appears in 2nd Games.
Funny fact about it: it doesn't cost action fans to view, but you can't view it without action fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545798
Once you've completed your First game it will be the bottom white event in every province.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545798
Second games only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545808
Damn it... should I really focus on clearing anyone or such for first game or should I blitz it?

[Anonymous No.]

And here's what it looks like!

At least, for someone who's about to lose his freaking mind.

[Anonymous No.]

So can anyone tally a list of which houses should be conquered logically starting from the ground up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545821
Oh god... this and Mass Effect among other games are going to take a long time to complete eh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545793

Isn't her second event the one where she tries to arrange her own marriage and Rance interrupts it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545825
Yeah something like that or the Clear Everything in 4 games organized in logical order...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545821
Boy, you are bored. I saw pretty much everything, but I never bothered to finish the game with all this shit just for the sake of completion list.
>>3545825
List? It's a theme for a very long discussion. That we had about 10 times already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545821
Still haven't managed to get those last two, huh?

Have you tried closing the Shikoku gate with different stages of war with Mouri? (Peacetime, at war, fully conquered).

I know for a fact I hadn't yet unlocked the Mouri House bonus when I closed mine (I believe it was in my Isoroku run, well before my Monkey run), so it might be safer not to use that if you have been.

About Iga re-estabilshed, I don't know if having Gekkou makes any difference either, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't using the additional house bonus when I cleared that one either.

I have no idea if any of that is helpful, but just trying to give a fellow completionist a hand with random ideas.

[Anonymous No.]

But still, anyone know if you can start the Kenshin route just from allying Ashikaga?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3544219
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[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>3545841
Why the fuck do you want to ally with ashikaga?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545831
Not if my memory serves. Her second is when she first gets the idea of having a baby to succeed the house. Rance Interruptus is a little further down the chain.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>3545825
Takeda, Mouri, Takuga, and One-Eye are really the only overly dangerous ones in first games, so you should probably avoid them and just let them demon army take care of them if you want things to be the easiest. Second games or point runs are entirely different stories.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545841
I've never tried, but like I said before, I assume as long as Chousin isn't in the picture, still holding onto his ring, I think you'll be fine. When you ally with him, he gets deposed and wanders off into the forests, so I'd assume Keikoku would be able to grab it then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545821
Missing this, eh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545840
To be honest I've only started one game since then and since it's a Monkey Kill run I suspect that the Shikoku gate option is disabled ('cause then I wouldn't be able to conquer the map).
Iga doesn't appear to be reemerging on this run either, and I don't have Gekkou this time around (I usually have him). But it's not over yet, I still have a few countries to finish.
Thanks for the theories... I can keep going as long as I've got different things to try!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545865
Aha, a hint. I was wondering if the Shinsengumi could interfere with the option to close the gate, and apparently it doesn't!
Which route is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545844

As I've said, to complete the progress report (auto-save doesn't work for events).

>>3545864

If it doesn't work, guess I'll just re-run through the Yamamoto route. At least this time I don't have to worry about collecting generics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545871
Or are you delaying the 5th gourd until you've wiped out everything else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545871
Looks like True History, as I don't see Rance VII IF in the lower right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545871
It's not a route.

[Anonymous No.]

quick question, can I save ran in the kill the monkey root?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545881
Yes, I noticed that too late, but there's still the question of... True route before the temple event, or True route after the temple event?
I'm not sure it makes a difference but I need to isolate every possibility.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545884
You don't need to save her.

[Anonymous No.]

It's True History to clear Agireda and Natori. I was just fucking around because I forgot that I'd need to fight the Demon Army for a long time to grind Kentarou up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545884

Not if you go to the Oil Dungeon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545887
It's before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545889
Alright then, I'll use your screenshot as a reference to rule out a bunch of theories, thanks!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545887
You could just count the gourds, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545900
My troops, if that helps (not sure how it would). Started with the Takeda and One-Eye bonuses and pretty much every single other non-family bonus possible. And then proceeded to forget to pick up Gekkou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545902
Not necessarily, gourds can take quite a few turns to be broken after being conquered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545902
Well damn, you're right.
I guess I'm naturally lazy in the extreme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545915
You are stupid. That doesn't change anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545915
Yes, that was my initial thought and the reason why I didn't bother to count. But there's four gourds still up, so... not locked in the True route yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545895
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545926
He has the same train of thought as I...
I usually consider "number of gourd countries down" when trying to figure out what my next targets will be, so I'm used to checking which gourd countries are down instead of which ones are up.
Then there's the fact that you can have five gourd countries down and still not be locked into a route.
My own brain misleading me again.

[Anonymous No.]

hay guyz

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545959
I never use that item. Is it as dumb as it seems to be, or am I missing out on something great?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545908
Thanks again, BTW. This is great! Gives me a much better idea of the situation required for it to be available.
Good luck with the Orochi, you'll find that it isn't anywhere as hard as it sounds. I got him in two tries and only did 7 dungeons, didn't farm Kentarou levels and didn't have the Dokuganryuu characters either. Just have to hope he doesn't use his big attack at a bad moment.
The tedious part is farming the dungeon until it's at 19/20...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545969
It's pretty dumb.

Definitely a waste of a Sat. bonus, at any rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545969
It's pretty useless, but when you're carting around a worthless unit just for asset or merchant, it lets them at least do something of some value each turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545973
Why would you do that? All your units get their action points and most of their HP refilled when you hit 20 as long as they didn't die en route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545980

Textbooks I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545982
Textbooks don't affect commander battle parameters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545973
First: You can farm a dungeon above 1/x?
Second: Why bother? All action flags are reset for the final Orochi battle, IIRC. I can't remember if HP is too or not, so maybe it has some value, but it seems limited.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545983

Action books do.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a bit confused about Mouri. He has 3 forms according to Wiki.
And I heard some talks bout his ghost form being weak...

Which form is he in if I chose to get him as house bonus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546011
Best one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546011
Uncursed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546017
Alright, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3545980
>>3545984
OK, I really wish I'd known that.
Still, I had fun with my 214 Ogre Bones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546011
Three forms? What's the difference between Cursed and Ghost?

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>3546042
One is blue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546042
Colour. You can actually get the second one. It doesn't get +50 hp every time you use it (or does it? I never actually used it that much)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546033
Angry dad-in-law sure looks angry... Anonymous must do his best to not disappoint.

[Anonymous No.]

Ghost Mouri would be great if he didn't lose all of that HP he gained when fighting his house when he levels.

[Fujiwara no Mokou !!mGXYMm0qKk/ No.]

Her inaba-foot was what caught my attention the most. Where do they sell these shoes in real life?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546062
>Anonymous must do his best to not disappoint.
Mouri has a bigger penis than Rance. So manly.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it just me, or can you not choose Asai-Asakura for FFA with the latest patch without it hanging?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546069
Maids don't care about penis...I'l-.....I'll make them love me in the other ways ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

Rance's brutal thing is almost as awesome as Shiki's grotesque shaft.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546100
Neither one compares to Shirou's jackhammer, though.

[High Priest of Yasakism !UD6HwlW47o No.]

>>3546100

Now that's brutal!

[Anonymous No.]

Is it possible to character clear Ashikaga without getting the Emperor Ring?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546138
Yes. It's an unrelated event that happens in every route but Kenshin's.

[Anonymus No.]

I want you
I want you so baaaad
I want yooooouuuuuuuuuu
I want you so baaaad

[Anonymous No.]

He even sucks at attacking independently!

[Anonymus No.]

I want you
I want you so baaaad
I want yooooouuuuuuuuuu
I want you so baaaad it's driving me maaaaad

[Anonymous No.]

So... does Castle Siege Expert actually do anything?

The manual for castle sieges is fantastic, it shows all four buffs and the character is obviously much more powerful. But the ability doesn't show any buffs and I honestly haven't seen any difference, power-wise...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546699
Related pic sold separately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546699
Well I'm sure it works, it doesn't give buffs though, apparently that's different. It's hard to see it at work though since opponent commanders come in various strengths.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546721
One can only hope so! But really, I haven't seen much of a difference (at least not enough to warrant taking up a character's passive ability slot), so I think I'll never take it again.
The book, however... I should have abused it more in the past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3546762
I'm pretty sure it does work but if you feel insecure about it give everyone merchant and buy more troops.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, here's another question.
Why is the number of troops gained every battle different for every character? Katsuie and Maeda gain 15 troops but Senhime gains only 12.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547041
That's just how it is, each character gains their own number of troops each turn, I think it depends on their class. There's also some skill that increases troops gained, forgot what it was called.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547075
Well damn... being the same class as the two others, it means Senhime suddenly sucks.
I wonder how they arbitrarily decided that, though. Maybe based on their base NP cost? I know Senhime's is high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547075
Now that I think about it it might have something to do with the cost of buying more troops for that unit. The troop cost for each class is different and the more troops a commander has the costlier they get.

Just a theory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547075
Large propaganda effect. It increases the amount of gained troops at the end of a battle if you brought the character with that ability. Fuuka has it. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but the gained troops seem barely noticeable in my experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547090
It's a good theory, it was my first guess. But I'm always maxing troops for them all, so their costs should be the exact same.
It's really odd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547098
It's +1 per unit. Not huge, but some units (Cannon, Musket, Cavalry) gain very few units so it has a noticeable effect for them.

I'm going to make a test... my three top Ashigaru are just a little bit above their max troops allowed, if they gain different amounts it means something is up.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a reason why you havent touched Rance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547156
Of course! The reason being that I'm only using Ashigaru on this playthrough.

[Anonymous No.]

How did you deal with Takeda, as I'm assuming you didn't cheat by starting with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547190
They're next on my list. They should go down easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547197

Are you going to modify Rance's troop count?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547209
I think I won't have much of a choice in the end, Yamagata would own me.
I can give him high stats easily, but I'm not exactly sure how many troops I'll need to give him to beat them... but whatever, they'll be the last country so I'll have basically gone through the entire game without using him.

Also, my test yielded odd results. This time it was Maeda who gained less troops. And as seen in the previous screenshot they're all just above their max troop count.
Either the Popularity Staff decreases troops gained in battle, or... maybe he gained less because he had more troops? I should fire some so he has the exact same number and try again.

[Anonymous No.]

STOP ALL THIS TROOP SCALING BULLSHIT

Just raise your troops to whatever size you see fit. Takeda's shouldn't even be a fucking problem if Rance has 1000 troops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547238

What difficulty are you on?

Unrelated, to get Tokugawa Buried Treasure cleared, all you need is Ranmaru (to find the dungeon) and Senhime (for the scene at the end), or do you need to clear Sehnime first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547259

We're talking about the fight against the 3 Takeda Generals, not the general battle against Takeda. Though it would be interesting to see if one could survive the Blitz with only foot soldiers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547090
>you powers
Somebody reported this misspelling to Yandere, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547283
The battle against the three generals will use Rance's troops against the Takeda generals' troops. If Rance has 1000 troops, that's what he'll use to fight them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547259
I'm doing it for fun. I've owned Takeda with less than 1000 troops a million times already.
>>3547273
Playing on Normal. It's been stupidly easy so far but a little slow because of the one battle permit only.
I don't think you need to clear Senhime for the scene at the end, but I could be wrong.
>>3547283
You know, I was just thinking that... I could assassinate Shingen and finish the game without having touched Rance at all (aside from that one time against Uesugi, can't beat them otherwise).

[Anonymous No.]

BTW, 3rd test is done.
All three Ashigaru had exactly 3010 troops for the fight, and Maeda still gained 3 less than the others. Very odd. I'll try unequipping the Popularity Staff next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547298

But if your goal is to do a "pure" Ashigaru run only, you should not increase any Ashigaru units' soldiers, nor stats. However, doing this would make that fight nearly impossible, as:

1) Baba's commander charge would kill Rance
2) Kousaka would probably get Ass2 off
3) All 3 of them with normal attacks + Fuurinzaken would still be enough to kill an untouched Rance.

Events also are an issue since you'd be using non-Ashigaru units in them but I can't see any other way of finishing Takeda without either boosting Rance's stats and hoping that the first 2 things listed don't kill him or assassinating Shingen.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, I think I'm already restricting myself enough as it is just using a single class, haha. You have no idea how frustrating it is not to have any ranged units or preparation interruption!
Baba's charge would definitely kill Rance. Or Rance would kill himself on Yamagata. I can't beat them unless I raise his stats or troop count... so the only way I can possibly do that is by assassinating Shingen. I'm gonna try that just for fun.

Test #4 results: no Popularity Staff equipped, 3010 troops for all three units, and Maeda was again the one to gain only 12 troops instead of 15... I just don't get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547362
It's the same thing with Cavalry. Yamagata only gains two, but Baba gains 5. While the general range is given by class, the exact value depends on the character. As far as I've been able to determine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547362

What items did you give your various Ashigaru? I know the obvious ones should be Mouri Teru with Dragonfly Cutter and Nogiku with the Protective Paper but not sure what to give others. Guess Senhime could take the 30% damage reduction charm to make fights even easier for her unless it's just like the armors in that they only subtract damage if you get attacked. Otherwise, throw on the +2 attack Bear Paw for her. Maeda would benefit greatly from the Strange Quick Bug. Give Gon the War Scrolls to fix his shitty int somewhat. Turban should take the +2 Defense item. Then for the crappier ones the pure extra damage weapons would work I guess, maybe the hell clock for defending purposes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547409
I'm starting to think this might be the case... test5 had Katsuie fill in for Maeda and he gained 15 like the others.
I guess a bunch of dudes just happen to have a -3 modifier to troops gained? The difference between gaining 12 per fight and 15 per fight is significant, and the difference between 2 and 5 is just plain ridiculous.

I'll have to make a list... tomorrow. Now I sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

Any characters that are required to do the Hell City event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547458

The wiki has the troops boost for most commanders under the All Captains section. Too bad someone fucked it up around Maria's entry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547460
Ran, IIRC

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547477

Guess I'll have to do it before breaking the 5th gourd then. Ignoring Takeda shouldn't be too much of a problem since I have their generals. Youkai Kingdom will be annoying though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547423
Senhime's at a natural 9 Attack thanks to an Affection powerup and a couple Attack2 books. She's got Rance's Love on, though I believe I could have done just fine simply buying her own troops. Or I could have given it to Maeda since he would have gotten 2 Attack, 2 Def and most importantly 3 Speed out of it, that was a bit of a mistake there.
I gave Maeda the Popularity Staff since he's at a natural 9 Attack and 9 Def too, but again, I coulda just bought his troops. I do equip the Strange Bug on him sometimes, and I did use the Bunny Mask on Turban.
Katsuie is my Field guy, he's got the book equipped. Nogiku is my Castle chick, she's got the other book. These damn things are awesomely good.
I can't get Gon because it would imply recruiting Ryouma first. I keep non-Ashigaru activity as insignificant as possible (I don't even use Rance and Suzume's noncombat stats).
The Guts Armor is a good choice (currently on some other dude), the -30% damage item is a good one too especially at these high numbers of troops.
Overall I made some mistakes, mostly with Rance's Love (should have gone on Maeda instead of Senhime).
Ah well. It was a fun experiment, and I guess I'm going to have a hell of a time trying to survive the Takeda blitz when 7 of my 12 best Ashigaru are kinda weak.
Now I really gotta get some sleep...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547500
Doesn't the guts armor not work in conjunction with Guard though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547517
It doesn't, but if you're using only ashigaru my guess is only 1 out of 3 of them would defend. At least 2 would attack, sometimes 3 because they don't hit that hard.

[Anonymous No.]

Dunno if it's just me, but this has been coming up at random times when I reload. What the hell is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547531

In that case would Guts Armor be better than the Dragonfly Cutter for Teru?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547566

Dunno. Something similar happened to me shortly after a Takuga event for a few days. Went away when I restarted my computer.

[Anonymous No.]

Earlier in this thread there's talk about how to have Seigan join.
I understand it has to occur after the temple event/first fight with Nobunga, and that I musn't take over Tenshi for them to ally. BUT, does this apply to both Tenshi Sect countries, or just the main one (Naniwa)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547583
I just reopened it and it's gone now...I think it just happens if I play for a really long while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547588

Probably. Then again, I got screwed over in the Isoroku route in not getting those 2 generics despite spending 10 turns just talking to her for them so not sure what to do there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547628
Generics? You mean her two archers? You probably didn't have the NP.

[Anonymous No.]

Question on Free For All mode...Can I actually get any bonuses from it, or is it simply just for fun?

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>3547668
fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547575
No? The Guts Armor doesn't activate if the unit has Guard active. You get either the 50% defense boost from Guard or the -100 damage from the Armor. Not both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547588
I'm not sure on this either. Wiki just says if they have not been defeated. I'm thinking this applies to them entirely. Can anon confirm?

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any characters besides Daidouji that have extra scenes if you leave them in jail?

[Anonymous No.]

How do I recruit Souun. I broke the fifth gourd, talked to Ran to find the dungeon, went down and saw her explode and heard Souun's crys of lamentation. What next? Wiki isn't specific.

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone upload a save with the Takeda generals unlocked? I'm sick of reading the text waiting for them to all show up.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking Ran. She either won't fucking appear in battle, or if she does she doesn't get captured. I've had Saitama down to one area remaining, and now I've let them retake an area just in case you have a higher capture chance in attack than defence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547924
Have you tried making use of Defeated Warrior Hunt or whatever it's called?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547924
If you cannot capture Ran after her Suzaku events:
a) You do not have room in prison(if you have over 20, free a few)
b) You annihilate her entire team and lower the odds. Let them attack you(to have BT advantage) and kill ONLY her in battle. You can capture her even if you lose.

Not capturing Ran after seeing the Suzaku events iw hat is hard, actually

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547749
He shows up after a while as a beginning of the turn event. Just make sure you have the NP free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547935
If I try killing only her, she ALWAYS has a guard next to her, and it ALWAYS resist assassination. She's just generally a bitch.

I had zero trouble last time I tried this route, but this time I'm on one-star instead of normal difficulty, and everyone has more troops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547924

she should be almost auto capture if you defeat her after certain char events

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547957
This is who I'm sending in to try to get her, by the way. Any suggestions on improvements?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547957
Generally, even if you kil everyone, you should be able to recruit her.
Since she usually attacks having two footmen on front who will guard, you can go for broke and deploy 6 ranged attackers just to do her in.
Or deploy Kenshin and Uruza +4 ranged attackers so you have and the enemies less chances to build up guard.
I personally just made sure she was unguarded for a moment(two ninjas attacking) and hit Double Tulip, while having a footman in front.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547966

it mostly depends on what she's with. in general though, your team sucks. at least up one of your tacticians up to 500 and use them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547986
Tacticians suck. Their buffs are worthless and they only give out two or three at a time anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3548018
Well, they suck except for Battle Rating Down 2, which isn't really of use in this situation.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking finally. The two "guards" in front decided that they would fuck over most of my team rather than guard, but somehow I still managed to win anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3548018

that's wny you're failing.

>>3548052

that's some fail team right there

[Anonymous No.]

>>3548057
I'm failing because tacticians suck? Wut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3548062

you're failing because you think tacticians suck. they're one of the best units in the game.

[Nanaya !yrBrqfF1Ew No.]

>>3548018
Kurosaki has full single buff, a really useful ability for times when you need that extra power/defense/ect.

The buffs are great actually. I went into battle with only a 670 troop Rance and Uruza as a test before on a one star point run and had Uruza tranq shot, what followed was Rance one shotting all four commanders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3548069
Then why is it that I've never seen them be useful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3544227
>>Then why is it that I've never seen them be useful?
>>I've

it begins with an s dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>3548087
>s've

no

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547458
How the hell did you damage the backrow units with only footsoldiers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3548163
Kill the frontrow and the front and back switch.

[Anonymous No.]

So, when clearing Agireda, Wiki says one of the brothers is supposed to die first. How do I make that happen, or is it just a painful waiting game for the start-of-turn events to run out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547663 Generics? You mean her two archers? You probably didn't have the NP.

Really late reply but the only house bonus I started with was Takeda, and my first few turns were just building up NP to make sure I had room for them. Never got them, even when I had Cost/Np as ridiculous as 70/120.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3547693

I should have specified that I was asking for a Ashigaru only run and since Teru does more damage getting attacked than she does attacking, the less damage she takes the better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3548809

Happens some time after the blitz and the Soul Binder when you enter a battle against the Demon Army.