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[Anonymous No.]

Pattern welded steel is actually pretty shitty if you think about it. To made a sword you need a steel that’s both hard (so that it can hold an edge) and not brittle (or else it will shatter under impact). Iron is malleable, by adding carbon to iron you produce steel that’s both harder and more brittle. So to produce a steel suitable for a sword you need to very carefully control the carbon content in the steel so that it has just the right balance of hardness and malleability.

Pattern welding works because it’s basically a way to mix two piece of steel with different carbon content together to produce a single piece with a carbon content the average of the two, hopefully this amount of carbon is the ideal amount for a sword. But European forged steel and crucible steel are of much higher quality because the use of coke-fired crucible capable of reaching 1600 °C which allowed precise control of the carbon content of the steel produced as well as allowing mass production.

Hence not only was European steel high quality, but Europeans could produce so much of it that they used it for swords, armour, cannons and even eating utensil, unlike Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

It wasn't clever yesterday, it isn't clever today.

[Anonymous No.]

It doesn't matter that the sword was statistically less useful or reliable, because the swordsmen were more skillful.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

As Kill Bill taught us: shotguns > katanas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3542576
True facts, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>the swordsmen were more skillful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3542591
Kill Bill sucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>and even eating utensil

I think this point actually says alot about a people

[Anonymous No.]

Well, Europe was basically swimming in iron ore, while Japan was alway a poor as fuck island.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3542861
And now Japan has one of the strongest economies in the world. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3542866
And one of the highest standards of living.
Japan sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3542593
You have to admit samurai were more skillful at performing various impractical (against armor) slashes that they spent most of their time practicing. The knights had crude, but arguably more reliable techniques such as 'bash the chink's head in with your shield' or 'bash the chink's head in with your mace', even 'laugh heartily as the chink's sword splinters on contact with your armor before punching his head in with your armored gauntlet'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3542866
What ? Hell no, that's the total opposite of that.
They're totally dependent on outside nations because they're specialized on importing and reprocessing.

[Frenchfag !4ToUU65/t2 No.]

>>3542584
skillful or not it doesn't matter because katana still suck even if it was made with the best steel on the world, i wonder who said a katana can cut an armor or a tank but it was fucking stupid like this picture from an anime with a katana cutting throught a sword, stop thinking that katana is the best sword on the world, only weaboo will say otherwise, their are just shit made with mediocre ressource

[Anonymous No.]

>>3542866
Maybe we should drop a couple of nukes on US cities. Might help light the fire under the ass of the US economy, so to speak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3542572
stop spammin ur crappy boerd on Дnoпtalk.com u retartet fagit's btw moot log's ur ip's lulz ur not relly anonimus enjoy ur party v& u monkey's

[Anonymous No.]

>>3542883
they have no natural ressource, the fuck are you talking about, they can't live without import from different countries

[CINERIA !DoLLFaGERs No.]

>>3542909

All swords are for decoration now anyway, so it hardly matters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3542909

>skillful or not it doesn't matter because katana still suck even if it was made with the best steel on the world

Actually skill does matter, as a skillful person can kill you with a toothpick.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>3542931
SWORDS ARE NOT FOR DECORATIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_RpbaUU7NI

[Anonymous No.]

>>3542909
I've cut 1/2" thick iron bar stock with a knife made out of SB-1 before.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>3542885

Historical European Martial Arts were just as complex as the stuff they did in the East. Knights didn't just crudely bash their opponents any more than the samurai did.

http://www.thearma.org/HEMA.htm