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3535602 No.3535602 [Reply] [Original]

What happened to the SHMUP genre? It used to be so big and popular with Ikaruga, R-Type, Gradius, Rez and many others. But now nobody seems to give a shit anymore, except those japanese still playing Touhou. Is it dead for good?

>> No.3535608

Shmups, not so good.

>> No.3535614

SHMUPS are too hard for people who likes pretty graphics in their games.

>> No.3535619

It got old

>> No.3535615

Too hard for the newer generation.

>> No.3535640

the very real possibility that you will lose the game in the first stage, or possibly will never truly beat the game doesn't appeal to today's demographic of teens that cry when their friends don't reply to every single text message they get and adults who would rather watch TV because video games are a waste of time.

>> No.3535663

>>3535640
PROTIP: that possibility existed because those games were meant to milk money from people.

>> No.3535669

>>3535640
saved for future use

>> No.3535681

They're hard. Gamers nowadays are pussies. They want hour long tutorials, cutscenes, infinite continues at 1 minute checkpoints, and being able to finish the game on the first playthrough. And twitch gameplay? fuck that, all they want is to see cool stuff happening on the screen with the less effort possible.
YOU'RE NOTHING MORE THAN MAGGOTS. DIE MAGGOTS!

>> No.3535701

>>3535681
It's cute when gamers pretend their "skill" at memorization and pushing buttons makes them better than others with real skills.

>> No.3535702

STGs are the only thing that sell on the Japanese Xbox 360 besides Idolmasters.

Westerners don't care about them much though. You could say that they died along with our arcades in the West. And there are more Western Touhou fans than actual shooter fans these days anyways.

The Japanese still have their arcades though so their love for SHUMPs lives on!

>> No.3535735

>>3535602
They didn't transfer very well to 3D.

>> No.3535738

>>3535702
I'm still pissed off that they're re-releasing them for the 360.
And it pisses me off even more that they're region locked.

I don't want to buy an entire system just to play...
Especially one that can die due to heat

>> No.3535744

>>3535681 They're hard
You probably think "I wanna be the guy" is hard too, huh?

>> No.3535759

Shameless SHMUP advertising.
http://www.gamesfree.com/game/cube_colossus.html

>> No.3535762

>>3535701
That's stupid. Skill is skill. Watchmaking is memorization and screwing. Is that not a "real" skill to you? go back to your shitty games that play themselves.

>> No.3535785
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3535785

I for one am waiting for my Raystorm HD overlord.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X84iB-zIcCw

>> No.3535804

Just to clarify, Touhou is not only memorization, it takes a lot of skill too.

If that was the case NEETs would have already memorized the game and beat each game on Lunatic five times by now.

>> No.3535813

I'm looking forward to Darius Burst for PSP, which is supposed to be out on December, if that counts.

>> No.3535888

>>3535702
People still make shoot 'em up games in the West. You just need to know where to look.

>> No.3535961

>>3535735
Pretty much.

It's like how 2D platformers have been overshadowed by other game genres for a long time now.

>> No.3535993

>>3535701
wait are you making fun of shmups or halo?

>> No.3536008 [DELETED] 

>>3535599
stop spamen ur crappy bored on anoпtalk.com u retartet fagit's btw moot log's ur ip's lulz enjoy ur v&

>> No.3536012

You can't memorize Sakuya's Eternal Meek.

>> No.3536010

>>3535993
He's making fun of all games that rely on reflexes and memorization, which is sadly pretty much all of them.

>> No.3536017 [DELETED] 

>>3535597
stop spamen ur crappy bored on anoпtalk.com u retartet fagit's btw moot log's ur ip's lulz enjoy ur v&

>> No.3536016

>>3536010
Don't forget the ones that are a direct function of time.

>> No.3536026

>>3536010
oh you're right, so every zelda game is a pile of shit according to him.

>> No.3536116
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3536116

The shmup genre is primitive. Games nowadays are fusions of different genres. Metroid for example is a FPS, platformer, action/adventure, RPG, and puzzle-game. Plus it actually has a plot. The platformer genre is almost doing as bad as the shmup genre. The reason for this is because it's not a good enough genre to stand on its own.

Also, get over yourselves. Being able to beat a 2bit game like Touhou does not make you better than the average Halo or Super Smash Brothers fan. Here's a plan, pick out an 'easy' game with multilayer. Get your ass handed to you by a fan of said easy game, then discover that you are not so special after all.

>> No.3536155

>>3535701
Touhou IS memorization. Nothing more; nothing less.

>> No.3536163

>>3536026
But every Zelda game is--

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3536176

You fags sure got told.

>> No.3536177

Difficulty does not make a game good you retards. If you enjoy playing something, just play it. Don't desperately seek approval from everyone you pass.

>> No.3536182

>>3536116
What if we wipe the floor with him, and then some others, instead? do your conditions change?

>> No.3536186

Blame the casuals, I love SHMUPS.

>> No.3536197

>>3536177
It does for people who enjoy difficulty.

>> No.3536200

I don't see any reason for me to play them, I don't enjoy them and I don't experience the pleasure of beating other people. Also, they're not very hard.

>> No.3536209

>>3536200
>Also, they're not very hard.
Should've mentioned I was talking about the Touhou games, I haven't played any harder ones because I don't look for them.

>> No.3536211

My favorite shoot-em-up is actually Call of Duty 4.

>> No.3536219

>>3535785
That's pretty much where the similarity ends, Layer Section plays nothing like Touhou.

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3536248

>>3536219
-Earth -> space -> Secilia
-descent underground to reach Yggdrasil (Last Boss name)

-ground -> air -> Netherworld
-ascent on stairs to reach Saigyou Ayakashi

Aside from that, yeah, not comparable because there's R-Gea-- I mean Sakuya.

>> No.3536459

>>3536211
>Overrated FPS
Out you go.

>> No.3536465

>>3536177
>Implying difficulty is not a part of gameplay.

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