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3526813 No.3526813 [Reply] [Original]

If you think about it, all these youkai could live for hundreds if not thousands of years. Human life span to them is like a blink of an eye's time.
In a way, all these friendship with some human (like with Reimu and Marisa), adventures, emotions, wonderful times, etc, they spent together means little to a youkai.

Afterall, for a youkai it's just a blink of an eye's time. They'd forget everything about Reimu and Marisa after a few more reiterations of making new human friends after the previous generation.
So basically what we see now is just an insignificant tiny instance of a slice of time in the Touhou universe. As meaningless as to Suika singing and dancing for 100 years straight.

>> No.3526822

>>3526813
Just because it's short doesn't mean it's meaningless.

>> No.3526831

that remind me this comic when Reimu die

>> No.3526832

No youkai can forget about Reimu's armpits

>> No.3526836
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3526836

"Marisa.... I would never forget you, even after a thousand years after your existence..."

>> No.3526838

>>3526831
How did it go?

>> No.3526845

>>3526838
"...and that's the movie I want to make."

Or something to that effect.

>> No.3526846

Just because my dog only lived for 10 years doesn't mean I will forget about it. Hell, I still remember its fur and how I taught it how to sit.

>> No.3526848
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3526848

Even death cannot defeat the power of LOVE

>> No.3526853

>>3526813
I'm pretty sure there wil be a Touhou where Reimu becomes immortal due to some freak gap accident. Marisa probably already is as she probably already found a book on imortallity in Patchouli's library and as for Sanae, God knows what Kanako and Suwako do to her while she's sleeping.

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>>3526836
>>3526848
YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>> No.3526876

>>3526838
I read one where Reimu simply, I don't know how to put it, respawned only with a blank personality and memories.

>> No.3526909
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3526909

>>3526813
Well, Eirin did say exactly that when you meet her for the first time.
Something about dividing by her live time, your's would be zero, or some shit.

>> No.3526921

>>3526853
More like what Sanae does to Suwako when she's sleeping.

>> No.3526927

>>3526921
Is that incest? But it's probably been over 20 generations..... But is that incest?

>> No.3526944

>>3526853
Sanae is a god anyway.

>> No.3526979

>>3526831
sauce?

>> No.3526985

>>3526927
>>3526944
Godcest?

>> No.3526997

>>3526985
Last time I checked, we call that mythology.

>> No.3527027

Yukari will take pity on old Reimu and border her young again

Marisa will complete the magician's spell and become like Alice

Sanae will die and become a visible divine presence

Sakuya is a secret Lunarian and will live for 10,000 years

>> No.3527072

>>3527027
I feel pity for you.

There are many instances in the canon story (games and manga strips) that Reimu and Marisa would rather reject the chance of becoming immortal. So no.

>> No.3527081

>>3527072

Of course they (and Sakuya too) rejected immortality, they're still young and idealistic.

Once they hit the big 30, they'll be begging to be turned into youkai/immortal/vampire etc

>> No.3527087

>>3527072

And people don't change their opinions when their hair starts to gray?

>> No.3527090

>>3527081

Sakuya is all-but-canon immortal, or at least longer-lived than a normal human (due to time hax or whatever), since she spends a huge amount of time in time-stop mode but normally would still age during that time.

>> No.3527091

>>3527072
>hurg blug blurg *posts out of ass*

>> No.3527094

>>3527090
You sure that isn't backwards? It seems like she'd appear to age faster because of all her time stopping, but I don't think it's ever come up.

>> No.3527096

>>3527087
>Sakuya
>Hair turn gray

Ohohohoho~

>> No.3527100

>>3527094

That's the whole point. You'd think so, but *she doesn't*.

>> No.3527122

>>3527081
You're just making your personal assumptions about their personalities when they get old, which has never been officially depicted.
So no.

>> No.3527125

>>3527122

I'm pretty sure your post applies to everyone in this thread, including yourself.

>> No.3527127

>>3527122

ITT everything not canon is evil.

>> No.3527130

>>3527122
Please post every instance of them rejecting immortality with sourced quotes.

>> No.3527132

>>3527122
>>3527125
>>3527127

So the humans will get old and die, right, and then get forgotten by all their youkai friends? Right?

>> No.3527133

Is Reimu human? Someone told me she was the personification of Gensokyo's barrier or something.

>> No.3527135

>>3527133

She's human. Supposedly.

BUT SHE NEVER AGES. EVER.

>> No.3527142

>>3527135
Well to be fair the only evidence of aging I've ever noticed is UFO Marisa. And PC-98 Alice if that counts.

>> No.3527148

>>3527135
But her hair changes color and she completely forgets about people she used to know and a certain turtle who was her faithful companion.

>> No.3527151

>>3527148

That's just a retcon. ZUN does that all the time, though usually he does it through the "flavor lore" method (i.e. provide tons of potentially-wrong information about the Touhouverse and then contradict it later, since it wasn't necessarily right the first time).

For example, Gensokyo used to be a GRIMDARK place where Youkai went around munching on humans. Now it's a happy fairy-tale Oz where humans and Youkai live in peace and harmony. Aren't retcons great?

>> No.3527156

>>3527151
Not when a certain someone still hasn't come back yet.

I know my bones don't lie, but something is amiss here.

>> No.3527172

>>3527151
>Gensokyo used to be a GRIMDARK place where Youkai went around munching on humans

Not really.

>> No.3527173

>>3527151
Reimu made it that way and besides Orin still eats people.

>>3527133
Reimu is a shrine maiden and nothing more.

>> No.3527179

>>3527151
It's different than a retcon. It's like a total severing and restart.

>> No.3527180

>>3527172
Wait, scratch that. It used to. It is not at any place during the course of the story. So it's not a retcon, it's... backstory?

>> No.3527220

>>3527180
Yeah the gameworld was more wild and dangerous but the games themselves were basically silly hats like they are now.

>> No.3527231

If the spellcard rules are to avoid accidentally killing the Hakurei maiden, does this mean that previous Hakurei mikos were significantly more badass than Reimu?

>> No.3527233

>>3527231

No, the spellcard rules are to prevent Reimu from accidentally murdering all the Youkai.

>> No.3527261

I have no idea how Gensokyo was supposed to have survived for hundreds of years before Pax Reimu

Seems like by now some evil youkai would have said fuck it I'm killing the shrine maiden in her sleep and then this whole place is going to become nothing but hell spiders

>> No.3527277

>oldest Youkai in gensokyo are roughly 1.5k years old, some seemingly approaching the end of their lives.
>human lifespan is around 70-80
>1500
>80
>blink of an eye
Right...
anyways, just because to them it's a short time doesn't mean it's meaningless or insignificant. Some animals like hamsters only live 3 years, which is insignificant compared to a human lifespan, and yet the people who had these as pets will always remember them even decades after they're dead. And those are just silly pets.

>> No.3527282

>>3527261
Maybe because no one wants the place to get all fucked up in hell spiders?

>> No.3527284

>>3527261
It's only been a century and a few decades. And the youkai were the ones who WANTED gensokyo, they wouldn't crush their cute little gatekeeper.

>> No.3527287

>>3527277
>oldest Youkai in gensokyo are roughly 1.5k years old

Tewi alone is approaching at least 3000 canonically.

>> No.3527298

>>3527233
You're technically right. Technically.

Spellcard rules are to prevent hurting Reimu. Hurting Reimu == danger to the Hakurei barrier. No barrier == all youkai die of not being believed in.

>> No.3527304

>>3527277
well, since 20 years translate into one youkai year, 80 years (it won't be that long since humans are mostly active from 15 years old to 65 years old, or 50 years) is only 4 youkai years (or 2 and a half youkai years). So it's basically highschool.

>> No.3527308

>>3527231
>>3527233
No youkai will kill Reimu, because they know if she dies the border falls. Before the spellcard rules, this meant that no one could fight her.

The spellcard is a compromise between the youkai and Reimu. As long as they stick to spellcard rules in their battles amongst each other and with humans (youkai are obligated to not kill a human if he defeats them in a danmaku battle), they can fight Reimu as well. And if they win, she can't do whatever she wants.

Of course, she wins most of the time anyway. But youkai need to fight so they don't lose their powers, so everyone's happy.

>> No.3527326

>>3527308
I guess this means previous Hakurei mikos solved incidents (if they did at all) by thrusting themselves in the middle of fighting youkai and daring them to keep fighting.

I'm not sure whether that's more badass than Reimu's way or not.

>> No.3527333

>>3527308
>youkai are obligated to not kill a human if he defeats them in a danmaku battle

They're obligated to not kill a human is he... no, wrong... if she loses too.

>> No.3527334

>>3527287
That's the first time I've ever heard anyone claim an age this high, from anywhere.
Source on this?

>> No.3527341
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>Tewi alone is approaching at least 3000 canonically.

>> No.3527345

>>3527287
It's 1300.

>> No.3527374

>>3527334
Not the guy you ask, and I have no source, but I recall two distinct things that are being brought up from time to time.
- Tewi being the oldest in Eientei.
- Eirin being at least 5000 years old.

If both are true, the math is clear.

>> No.3527388

>>3527374
Eirin wouldn't surprise me, she is said to be immortal.
Tewi being older than her is news to me however. The Fox news kind of news too.

>> No.3527402

All the animal-representatives are probably ancient. Nazrin was a god's assistant, and Tewi has dropped hints along those lines.

>> No.3527429

>>3527374
>>3527388
...now that I think of it, Eirin's age (regardless of how many thousand years old she actually is) kind of renders the whole discussion moot. Blink of an eye, indeed.

>> No.3527463

>>3527334
Tewi, if she really is the naked hare of Inaba, predates Emperor Jimmu. Jimmu was born about 2600 years ago. Simple enough.

>> No.3527466

>>3527429
Do you see why they don't mind eating humans?

>> No.3527473

> No youkai will kill Reimu, because they know if she dies the border falls.

Kinda overstating Reimu's importance to the barrier, I think. Judging by the incident in vol 3 of Strange and Bright Nature Deity, Yukari does all the work, and Reimu doesn't even know how the thing even works.

Besides, unless Reimu is really old, the death(s) of the previous miko didn't lead to border collapse.

>> No.3527531

>Yukari does all the work, and Reimu doesn't even know how the thing even works.
>Yukari does all the work
I believe you mean Ran.

>Besides, unless Reimu is really old, the death(s) of the previous miko didn't lead to border collapse.
Bloodlines etc. As long as there is a Hakurei alive, the border will stand.

>> No.3527614

>>3527473
>the death(s) of the previous miko didn't lead to border collapse.

>implying the mikos died and didn't retire.

>> No.3527626

>Everyone in this thread is implying that Reimu will eventually have heterosexual sex in order to continue the Hakurei Shrine miko tradition.

>> No.3527629

So... where is Reimu's family?

>> No.3527634

>>3527626
Are you implying that Reimu WOULDN'T lost her viginity at some point (in a heterosexual way) ???

That's crazy.

>> No.3527643
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3527643

;_;

>> No.3527653

>>3527643
Is this canon? So Zun makes it official the relationship between Alice and Marisa?

>> No.3527655
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3527655

>>3527626
Quarter-youkai miko.

>> No.3527656

>>3527653
Yuri doujin.

>> No.3527658

>>3527626
Cloning might be perfected in her lifetime

>>3527629
In the real world probably. No need for border control to stay in Gensyoko and they probably round up errant youkai and ship them in.

>>3527643
Alice was first met in hell. She can go visit Marisa any time.

>> No.3527661

>>3527655
Wouldn't a youkai miko continuously purify itself to death?

>> No.3527666

>>3526813
So what you're saying is, any Youkai who fucks Marisa is a child molester?

>> No.3527667

>>3527473
>Kinda overstating Reimu's importance to the barrier, I think. Judging by the incident in vol 3 of Strange and Bright Nature Deity, Yukari does all the work, and Reimu doesn't even know how the thing even works.

I think it's Yukari's job to teach Reimu. Canonically there are mention that Yukari trains Reimu. Maybe it's the previous Hakurei Shrine Maiden's will to her or something since Reimu was alone in the shrine right now

>> No.3527674

>>3527661
Reimu has no problem with Rinnosuke, presumably any amount of human blood is enough to preven that.

>> No.3527682

>>3527661
Nah, there are stories of monks being so awesome that after age gets the best of them, they return as oni to kick the shit out of evil.

Even in death they still serve.

>> No.3527689

>>3527666
>666

You have the mind of a devil.

>> No.3527691

>>3527682
Monks are not mikos.

>> No.3527715

>>3527691
They are both holy, miko probably won't purify-burn themselves after turning youkai if monks don't.

>> No.3527717

>>3527682
Are you talking about Byakuren?

>> No.3527737

>>3527717
Nah, Byakuren just sold her humanity because she didn't want to die. There are myths of monks who figured their shrines would be razed by demons if they died too soon, so they turned into oni out of sheer willpower to keep smiting evil.

>> No.3527740

>>3527737
Can you share with us such a story?

>> No.3527750

>>3527740
Ryogen.

>> No.3527763

>>3527717
Nah.

Her brother, maybe. ... Huh. Byakuren's brother is now in Gensokyo, someone go draw some 4koma about this.

>> No.3527768

>>3527737
Byakuren didn't sell her humanity so much as she changed herself with magic on such a fundamental level that she wasn't human anymore.

>> No.3527773

>>3527666
Anyone who fucks Marisa is a child molester. It's not like she's an adult or anything.

>> No.3527783

>>3527655

Hm, i wonder if Keine and Rinnosuke's children would be whole human, half-youkai or whole youkai.

>> No.3527784

>>3527768
And yet she ended up more humane than anyone else.

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Marisa molested dump commence

>> No.3527804

>>3527784
It is very humane to sympathize with man eating monsters.

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>> No.3527830

Wait, can't Sakuya time manipulation create a stasis field around her who denies aging?

>> No.3527834

>>3527830
Wait, can't Sakuya space manipulation place all of Gensyoko in a bottle?

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>>3527783
Here's your answer.

>>3527830
If she is in said stasis field, she won't age, but she won't be able to do anything else either.

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>>3527803

>> No.3527864 [DELETED] 

>>3526809
stop spaming ur crappy bored on anoпtalk.com u retartet fagit's

>> No.3528268

LOL remu is a badass

>> No.3528348

>>3527151
when was it grimdark?

>> No.3528351

>>3527261
what is a hell spider?

>> No.3528358
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>>3528351

>> No.3528364

>>3527737
You are now imagining Shou and Byakuren henshining Hibiki-style.

>> No.3528380
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>> No.3528388

>>3527473
>vol 3 of Strange and Bright Nature Deity

Was that ever translated?

>> No.3528399

Does this mean Flandre is a basement-dwelling pedophile since she likes Marisa?

>> No.3528409

>>3528388
Barely into vol. 2 right now, so that poster has secret moon knowledge.

>> No.3528415

>>3527626
>heterosexual sex
Nobody ever said anything about hetero. Futa dick is good enough.

>> No.3528441

>>3528415
>futa

A dick inside a pussy = heterosexual sex.

>> No.3528442

so who outlasts who?

>> No.3528451

>>3528442
All humans die. All youkai forget them because their existence were like 1 second to a youkai.
Good End.

>> No.3528452

>>3528380
Would you mind uploading this extra somewhere? I have Bloody Watch of fate, but it didn't come with that.

>> No.3528474

in a world in where you can have picnics in heaven, tea in the netherworld and be friends with the ruler of hell I don't think death matters that much

>> No.3528489

>>3528474
Oh shit, I died and went to hell!

*walks out of hell and back to house*

>> No.3528499

>>3528489
You are not a frilly-dressed miko with many powerful magical friends and decades of fighting experience.

>> No.3528512

>>3528499
Still working on that. So far I'm poor and drink tea and do nothing all day.

>> No.3528519

>>3528451

ya, ya, humans will die. I was talking about life span between youkais and the undead (Remilia and Flan and Yuyuko and my life). so who outlasts who?

>> No.3528525

>>3528519
good luck trying to outlast the non-corporeal undead.

>> No.3528542

>>3528519
There's really no info for how long nonhumans live. The only thing I can think of is when Shikieiki tells Cirno she won't live forever because even nature is impermanent, or something.

Pretty sure Yuyuko lasts forever unless her body falls out of that tree, though.

>> No.3528552

always bet on yukari

>> No.3528581

I don't think that the whole thing about Youkai not killing Reimu is an overstatement. From Reimu's entry in Perfect Memento:

>In addition, she has the powers of the Hakurei shrine maidens.
>The Hakurei shrine maidens control the Great Hakurei Boundary and protect Gensokyo.
>If the Great Boundary were destroyed, either from inside or out, Gensokyo would likely not fare well.
>Gensokyo relies on the Hakurei Shrine and its shrine maidens to continue to exist as it does today.
>As a result, no youkai oppose them.
>Due to her easygoing appearance, it's impossible to tell whether she realizes this or not, but the Hakurei shrine maidens really do have all of Gensokyo under their thumbs.

There is some info about the previous maidens as well:

>Compared to previous generations of shrine maidens, she is quite lacking in a sense of danger and spends very little time training, yet her power is considerable.

>> No.3528599

What game is the OP's screenshot from?

>> No.3528600

>>3528581
That is proof that they do eventually have heterosexual sex to product offsprings at some point.
But for Reimu, who would that MALE WITH A NON-FUTA PENIS be?

>> No.3528604

>>3528599
Scarlet weather rhapsody

>> No.3528605

>>3528581
Previous mikos could beat a god without playfighting.

>> No.3528607

>>3528599
東方靈異伝 (aka. The Highly Responsive to Prayers)

>> No.3528613

>>3526813 So basically what we see now is just an insignificant tiny instance of a slice of time in the Touhou universe.

Now compare the 50-100 years you're likely to get in the real world, with the 14000000000 years that the universe has been around, and the billions upon billions of years renaming until thermal equilibrium sets in.

>> No.3528620

>>3528613
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJZ9L-WLMJA

You forgot to post this video.

>> No.3528621

>>3528605
Well, they did apparantly train often, but Reimu doesn't need to do that because of the spell card rules.
Seems they were more badass than her after all, but Reimu is more clever.

>> No.3528855

>>3528621
(Before the spellcard rules) Mima tells her to go home and train if she isn't strong enough (=used a continue).

>> No.3529786

>>3528380
Damnit, don't just post one page and leave us hanging!
Closure, man, closure!

>> No.3529886

>>3528581
ZUN being inconsistent as usual? Or maybe the significance of the miko is indirect, like just having a Hakurei around to keep the youkai in line so they don't try to screw with the barrier.

In SaBND, Yukari speaks as if Reimu should know how the barrier works, but she clearly doesn't. She must not be actively maintaining it in anyway, so unless it's keyed in on Hakurei DNA, I doubt it falls instantly if she's killed or something.

>> No.3529929

Sakuya's red eyes is evidence enough that Remi's love juice is turning her into a semi vampire bit by bit. Remilia manipulates people's fate, surely if she wishes it, she won't ever lose Sakuya.

>> No.3529989

>>3529929
She got red eys because she is lunarian

>> No.3530000

>>3528600
It doesn't say anywhere that they are a family. They are probably more like a clan/tribe. There are relatives most likely.

>> No.3530044

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6620823

>> No.3530044,1 [INTERNAL] 

Bump

>> No.3530044,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>3529929
I'm pretty sure vampirism doesn't work that way.

>> No.3530044,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>3530044,2
We wish it worked that way, Jones.

>> No.3530044,4 [INTERNAL] 

Are vampires immortal?

>> No.3530044,5 [INTERNAL] 

>>3530044,4
It is who I am immortal!

Not vampires like arc!

>> No.3530044,6 [INTERNAL] 

>>3530044,4
If they were, stakes and whatnot would be rather useless.

>> No.3530044,7 [INTERNAL] 

>>3530044,6
Even if you are immortal, being staked to the ground sure does suck.

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