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its up

>> No.35077296

>>35077224
Epic

>> No.35077314

>>35077224
Very nice

>> No.35077334

Uh oh

>> No.35077345

https://youtu.be/3sOAkdu3tRo

This is absolutely hilarious

>> No.35077418

Kill yourself

>> No.35077430

>>35077224
this is the end

>> No.35077460

Imagine if Pewdiepie played Touhou it would be so popular

>> No.35077479

kuso thread
kuso life
kuso world

>> No.35077533

>>35077224
Rip Touhou fanbase. Glad Pelo made an animation on something he enjoys, though.

>> No.35077591

>>35077334
>>35077418
>>35077430
>>35077460
>>35077533
>noooo more people getting into the same thign as me is bad!!

>> No.35077608

>>35077591
gatekeeping is good

>> No.35077617

>8 minutes

>> No.35077622

>>35077591
who are you quoting?

>> No.35077637

>>35077460
He already did.

>> No.35077771

>>35077637
When

>> No.35077806

>>35077771
it was that bullet dicks video
ZUNpets made it into one of the videos-- that annoying kid blasting a trumpet in people's faces.

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>7k comments already
damn

>> No.35077884

This is absolute cringe my dudester.

>> No.35077918 [DELETED] 

>>35077870
>>7k comments already
>4.72
Why does that surprise you?

>> No.35077930

>>35077918
fix your post dude

>> No.35077933 [DELETED] 

>>35077918
>>4.72
84 now apparently.

>> No.35077959
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2hu bros... I think this guy is ZUN

>> No.35077971

its over..

>> No.35077975

worst thread on /jp/

>> No.35077990

cant wait for sr pelo fumos xd

>> No.35078103

>>35077870
>‍>7k comments already
>4.84
Why does this surprise you?

>> No.35078112

>>35078103
>4.84
4.84 what?

>> No.35078115

it had 20k likes before it even premiered

>> No.35078179

>>35078112
They're nearly halfway to 10m subs. If that's an animation channel, they're doing well compared to some of the older names like ricepirate.

>> No.35078192

>>35078179
Oh yeah, now I see.
I think this will easily hit 1m views, probably more even.

>> No.35078254

>>35078192
His other videos are a good indicator of how much this one will reach in views. Probably somewhere around 6 million to 11 million on average.

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>>35077224
Pretty good. I like the Patchouli parts.

>> No.35078370

>>35077959
Lies, where is the alcohol factory?

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>>35078298
Patchouli is dead...

>> No.35078466

I like the last part

>> No.35078468

>>35077591
It's more so about the type of people that are going to be getting into Touhou.

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>>35078468
Get ready for A LOT more of this

>> No.35078602

>>35078536
i love politics in my doujin game franchise
wouldnt this break zuns guidelines anyway

>> No.35078626

>>35078602
I'm not very familiar with ZUNs overall guidelines. Enlighten me if you could.

>> No.35078643

>>35078626
best i could find outside of touhou wiki
https://touhou-project.news/guidelines_en/
>Anything that means to advertise personal beliefs beyond the bounds of fiction.

>> No.35078656

>>35078602
Yes.

>> No.35078688

>>35078536
You forgot Touhou Mukbang

>> No.35078718
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>>35078643
>Anything that means to advertise personal beliefs beyond the bounds of fiction.

Huh well I guess being in support of LGBT rights would apply to this rule. There was that time ZUN confirmed nobody in Gensokyo is gay so yeah maybe...

>> No.35078737

>>35078688
excuse me fucking WHAT?

>> No.35078749

>>35078718
i remember that being a shitpost or something but i wouldn't be surprised. he's an older guy after all.
>>35078688
we already have feeder fetish touhou content

>> No.35078804

I admittedly enjoyed it, but did not enjoy the idea of large YouTubers letting even more outsiders find out about Touhou. It's already bad enough with shit like fumo going mainstream and general normalshittery, and I would not like to see it get worse.
>>35077591
there's nothing wrong with gatekeeping

>> No.35079133

>>35078749
It was an animemaru article so yeah shitpost.

>> No.35079216

This is a franchise that's been around for a decade lol. We can gatekeep and gatekeep but it's not gonna stop the inevitable.

Best thing to do is to hope the cycle swings back around and it goes back to being niche with Twitter dorks.
>>35078718
Eh I don't think this applies to literal faggotry given the mountains of yuri content out there, some of it I'm sure was flashed in ZUNs face constantly.

Also the quote was from Animemaru which is a shitpost site

>> No.35079287

https://dec.2chan.net/55/res/14334497.htm
They like it.

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Pelo's always had touhou references in his vids, I doubt it's gonna be his fans' first exposure.

>> No.35079308

>>35079216
>Also the quote was from Animemaru which is a shitpost site
Ahh I see.

>Best thing to do is to hope the cycle swings back around and it goes back to being niche with Twitter dorks.
Lets hope that doesn't take very long

>> No.35079318

>>35078688
Nikocado?

>> No.35079373

>>35077591
gatekeeping faggots like you is what actually makes fandoms from being toxic

>> No.35079469

>>35079287
Not all of them.

>> No.35079477

>>35079318
No i mean shit like the link
https://youtu.be/CT9mhntKJ7g

>> No.35079568

>>35079469
only one seems to be complaining, mostly about it being EoSD or something

>> No.35079598

>>35079477
MLG never died.
How the hell do you even find this kind of shit.

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>>35077591
>>35079373
The only people who complain about gatekeeping are people the gate was supposed to keep out

>> No.35079695

>>35079673
Amen

>> No.35079758

>>35079673
The only way I can see people complaining about gatekeeping is if it is overdone.
You faggots are somewhat guilty of this as well. Just my two cents.

>> No.35079824

>>35079287
Can someone who speaks moonrunes translate what's being said here

>> No.35079878

>>35077224
It was fun. Good to see some original content unlike what anyone on this site had done in over a decade.

>> No.35079961

>>35079568
No?

>> No.35079990

>>35079878
>over a decade
(You) are not even a decade old, crossie. Go back to tumblr.

>> No.35080063

>>35079990
Impressive how you were able to fit that many underage /v/& memes into a single line like that. You don't fit in.

>> No.35080082

>>35079990
Just admit that the video was funny and move on man. Jesus.

>> No.35080091

>>35079990
You're trying too hard.

>> No.35080121

>>35080063
>>35080082
>>35080091
Outsiders are not welcome here.

>> No.35080383

>>35079216
>Twitter dorks
more like mentally ill subhumans?

>> No.35080412

>>35080121
My words are simple to understand.

>> No.35080463

>>35078718
we should send the mentally ill virtual signalers and normalfags to the holoshit fandom

>> No.35080545

>>35080463
Please fucking do they belong there

>> No.35080640

Patchy having awful asthma is the funniest shit.

>> No.35080709

I like it when Remi is portrayed as a baby.

>> No.35080743

>>35077224
It's pretty accurate. What are people freaking out about? The people it might attract will get filtered by the gameplay and lewds anyway.

>> No.35080791

>>35080743
Secondaries being scared of Tertiaries

>> No.35080819

>>35080743
>filtered by ... lewds
No chance in hell.

>> No.35080837

>>35080819
L*li and underage looking characters are haram

>> No.35080862

>>35080837
porn is more than lolishit and there are more titcows than underage characters.

>> No.35080864

>>35080837
They aren't prepared for our Flan and Remi folders

>> No.35080889

Didn't minusT get cancelled because of his Remilia art
Not that he cares since he's korean

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>>35080837
I always found it amusing how some western fans freak out when they see loli, but Japanese fans don't mind it at all. In fact, it's pretty common to see loli artist retweeting drawings with cowtits and cowtits artists retweeting drawings with lolis.

>> No.35080944

>>35080903
Try following non porn artists, assuming you aren't able to speak japanese and dont follow non artist accounts its not a surprise you never seen anti loli shit

>> No.35080952

>>35080889
When was that

>> No.35081000

>>35080889
More info?

>> No.35081196

>>35077224
Jesus Christ all the sound effects make it an auditory representation of ADHD. Fucking hell.

>> No.35081212

>>35080944
Can you post some examples of artists talking shit about loli? Because the non-h ones I follow haven't posted anything of the sort.
>follow non artist accounts
I'm not sure why anyone would do that.

>> No.35081354 [DELETED] 

>>35081196
Watch it on 2x. >>35081212

>> No.35081368

>>35081196
Watch it on 2x.

>> No.35081387

>>35081212
His point is stop following porn artists and actually read the shit people post on the Japanese net. Being a lolicon is about as frowned upon over there as it is on the western side, and that's not including their own unique issues which are sometimes, not very often, brought up on the western net.

>> No.35081399

>>35079298
He's been doing Touhou references all the way back to his Shellnut days, which is actually what inspired this.

>> No.35081700

>>35081387
Sure thing, buddy.

>> No.35082821

>>35080743
This board likes to panic anytime something like this crops up. Some people here still think Touhou is a secret club despite it being mainstream as fuck for many years now. Western fanbase is already shit, so this wont change a damn thing.

>> No.35082839

>>35082821
Touhous so mainstream I can talk to my neighbors about it like my other favorite Netflix films

>> No.35082870

>>35079373
Good

>> No.35082882

>>35081368
It would be much better without all of the meme effects

>> No.35082892

>>35082882
Blame the low attention span of the average Youtube viewer these days.

>> No.35082962

>>35080082
Maybe for 15 year old discordshitters

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this is now a loli thread

>> No.35082996

>>35077224
I liked it.

>> No.35083028

>>35082992
I won't contest this

>> No.35083031

>>35082962
No-one is going to make something you want to see unless you do it yourself or if someone like-minded does it.

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Off yourself OP

>> No.35083065

>>35082892
It’s disappointing too because it had some comedic moments e.g., the Sakuya and reimu bit where she gets “graze 20” was well done

>> No.35083085

>>35083031
>No-one is going to make something you want to see
The Japanese do most of the time but nice try retard

>> No.35083113

>>35083085
And you still complain when they start doing something else, i.e. working on something you don't want to see.

>> No.35083130

>>35083113
The recent western danmakufu game was pretty neat. Maybe...people just have different tastes? Shocking I know.

>> No.35083135

>>35083113
I try to ignore it but it's a different story when teens like you post it to /jp/

>> No.35083181

>>35083130
I don't care about the different tastes. If they want to complain about something while creating nothing they want to see in return, there's no point in complaining. You're screaming over nothing.

>>35083135
>try to ignore it
Nope. You bring it up yourself and denounce them as a Judas, usually in the same post.

>> No.35083200

>>35083181
>Nope. You bring it up yourself
No I don't unless retards like you post it to /jp/

>> No.35083204

>>35083181
Ah I see you're the guy telling people to make their own media and prove it anytime people say they dislike a piece of media. Your arguement logic is fucking retarded.

>> No.35083232

>>35083200
I don't post it to /jp/
>>35083204
I don't like it either. What you fail to see is that they're making something. You aren't. At the end of the day, they made something they enjoyed, you didn't. It's not hard to understand.

>> No.35083269

>>35083232
>What you fail to see is that they're making something
I do the same and post in the OC threads from time to time. Doesn't change the fact that this thread is shit.

>> No.35083277

>>35083232
You assume anyone who criticizes a piece of media isn't a creator and that's fucking stupid. Anyone, regardless of if they make something or not, can think it's shit.

>> No.35083282

>>35083232
Shitty posters like OP makes me avoid to share my stuff

>> No.35083409

>>35083277
You're free to think it's shit. I don't care if people think it's shit. The only reason I bring it up is because I see most of you complaining about content, and whenever someone comes along, you're rude to them more often than not.
As far as being a creator goes, there's no way for me to know that. What I do know is that sometimes someone has the gall to come here and post something they found, like, or just want to share. If you are a creator, go ahead and share something. Maybe /jp/ will like it. Even if you think something is shit, you can't stop them from sharing it.

>>35083282
Understandable, but give it a go. What's the worst that can happen.

>> No.35083643

>>35079287
>>35079824
/jp/ and 2chan are like 2 polar opposites. /jp/ gets bugurt about everything and drag drama threads for months while Toshiakis TAKE IT EASY and then move onto the next topic within a day.

>> No.35083776

>>35082962
I'm not a discordshitter and I found the video funny. It was pretty well done and I appreciate that the guy is doing an animation video on a series that he genuinely likes. I have more respect for Sr Pelo after this.

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I loved it.
Despite all the other stuff this guy makes and how popular his shitposts are if you can just put that to the side for a moment this was ok.
He actually understands the game and the jokes to go along with it. Decent execution.
I legit had a problem breathing from laughing so damn hard.

The only thing that lost me was Remilia smoking a fat joint.

>> No.35084215 [DELETED] 

>>35080889
>Cancelled
>Haven't heard about it
>He still gets tons of views
>He's still working on his projects
Sure.

>> No.35084253

>>35083987
I thought it was a cigar to look classy

>> No.35084399

>>35084253
Given her demeanor and the previous SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY joke it was probably meant to be a joint.

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>>35083987
>The only thing that lost me was Remilia smoking a fat joint.
Same, though I guess there's only so many ways to mak a joke about a "strange mist" that aren't gonna be a jokes about drugs or smoking.
I feel like the scenes with Sakuya and Marisa are the best, a lot of personality conveyed which helps the jokes land better. Its certainly not lolrandumb, you'd had to have played to know things like how much of a grump Reimu can be or Sakuya's impish/sadistic tendencies

>> No.35084502

>>35084415
I appreciate how it tried to feel fresh, and even when it went for more obvious played out jokes it didn't linger on it (like 9 ball being more of a background gag and Meiling sleeping being like a 5 second joke)
All in all it had a lot of fun little moments and references in it, it was pretty great. Will probably rewatch it sooner or later to see if I missed anything.

>> No.35084597

>>35084502
>Will probably rewatch it sooner or later to see if I missed anything.
I took another look at the Remi segment and I thought the blunt was one of those large cigars. The Cubans. It was weird seeing it again.

>> No.35084644

>>35084502
It also didn't draw attention to Rumia showing mankind using the decimal system, when he could have done a "T-pose to establish dominance" joke of some sort so that was refreshing.

>> No.35084804

Flandre's entrance was just golden and accurate.

>> No.35085364

>>35078602
Touhou has always been political, faggot. ZUN literally comments on capitalism in one of the CD Stories and Touhou 18 is a critique of capitalism.

>> No.35085442

the video is funny, take it easy /jp/

>> No.35085542

>>35085364
yeah but he isnt using the games as a platform for political awareness, nor is he putting the money he gets for games towards political groups, and his guidelines are his guidelines
you can keep your queer shit but i dont think even the gays like it
>>35085442
videos a typical youtube animation. i think more people are scared of new fans shitting things up more than anything.

>> No.35085653

The true goal of gatekeeping Touhou is to make it less hard to obtain a Fumo. The more people that join, the less of a chance to successfully obtain Fumo. Released fumos will sell out within 5 seconds at this rate.

>> No.35085704

>>35085653
They'll only sell out if you never shut up about them. I, for one, will get my fumo even if I have to raze half the planet in the process.

>> No.35085710

>>35085542
He's using his games to express his opinions, its the same level as Kojima and MGS. I personally see no issue with people using Touhou to spread gay pride or shit since the series is kinda gay, and if it makes people happy it should be ok. Also those games are done for free, so there's no issue.
>videos a typical youtube animation. i think more people are scared of new fans shitting things up more than anything.
What a strange way of thinking.. new fans are the lifeblood of any fandom. Everyone here was a new fan back in the day.
>>35085653
fumos have been fucked forever anon, don't deny it lol

>> No.35085816

>>35085364
>Touhou 18 is a critique of capitalism.

>> No.35085836

>>35085710
ok but how do you explain them breaking the guidelines, which they blatantly do
they can't even bother respecting the very few rules zun puts out

>> No.35085878

>>35085836
You don't. You beat it into their skulls that what they're doing is against the guidelines.

>> No.35085964

>>35085836
isn't zun guidelines more for profiting off than fan creation? i remember one of the biggest rules was no crowdfunding which shut down a fan project a couple years ago. i also doubt ZUN is going to go after a couple of small time fans creating a game jam, if he did that'd be shitty as fuck. but only reason anyone here cares is because its some twitter pride shit which is apparently bad? idk just move on lol
>>35085816
yes, the game is about regulation economy vs open economy. its not surprising since this is a quote written by ZUN:
>The world has developed rapidly and countries everywhere have become rich, so mankind has moved on to the next stage. The human population, increasing exponentially since the BC era, slowly began to decrease. Capitalism, just as a Noah's Ark, has promoted the economic gaps. Because of this, the birth rates of all countries have fallen, though this just means that capitalism has entered its final step, population controlling.

>> No.35085979

I'm sure the video is as funny as everyone in this thread says, but I can't watch it because of Pelo's revolting art style.

>> No.35086008

>>35085979
That's my only gripe with it.
I think someone made a thread about it months ago, but I honestly hate the style. It's enjoyable but that killed it for me.

>> No.35086035

>>35085816
Did you read the corresponding Lotus Asia chapter?

>> No.35086043

>>35085964
the guidelines were linked earlier in the thread. personally i don't care what you believe politically but it's disrespectful to the series to break rules and make excuses for it. zuns already gone after people doing small stupid shit before, and i can't imagine tons of people doing stupid shit is something he wants to deal with.

>> No.35086104

>>35086043
they've been doing this shit for years and nobody has batted an eye. with that attitude people shouldn't be drawing yuri touhou shit or anything in that nature. kinda boring, dont you think? and what would ZUN gain after going these projects, a bunch of weirdos on /jp/ who hate gay people get happy?

>> No.35086110

>>35084804
The shot of Remi screaming honestly got a laugh when she appears

>> No.35086132

Touhou is gay as JoJo dont fool yourself

>> No.35086194

You're not allowed to draw Yaoi of JoJo as per the author disavowing it. Don't fool yourself. Yuri shit should get the hammer.

>> No.35086203

>>35086104
i don't think you understand the difference between using politics as a theme in your story vs creating a story (or game, whatever) to support a specific politcal movement. writing yuri doesn't mean you're supporting a radical feminist movement. saying you're making ___ to support ___ movement is.
but pointing out that difference must mean i hang gays or something!

>> No.35086208

>>35085964
>isn't zun guidelines more for profiting off than fan creation?
I always saw it as that and don't use my stuff to be a prick. Most of the game jam shit I've looked at in these pride gatherings are just yuri shit anyway. Nothing really super political just your typical MariAli or Cirno-Mokou.

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>>35086208
>Cirno-Mokou.
Do I live under a rock or something? I never see those two together in random shit.

>> No.35086262

>>35086250
Fire and ice

>> No.35086283

>>35086043
Brah yuri shit on its own isn't political, being a fag isn't either. It's just asshats trying to push it as such.

This is just your typical gay themed free game jam nothing to get wound up on.

>> No.35086288

>>35086208
its just typical reactionary 4chan shit. someone posts a twitter screencap of something social justice related and everyone loses their shit. tons of japanese artists create doujins of touhou characters being gay and selling it, there is no issue there.
>>35086203
creating a gamejam around pride month isn't using politics or pushing some narrative, christ.
>but pointing out that difference must mean i hang gays or something!
maybe you're not homophobic but being hung up about some tiny gamejam is really odd

>> No.35086325

>>35086250
It's not as common as other stuff but come on this is Touhou. Parsee and Yuugi are a popular pairing despite not saying even two words to each other as far as we know.

>> No.35086362

>>35086325
Blame M-1 GP for that.

>> No.35086366

>>35086325
atleast parsee and yuugi are in the same game lmao

>> No.35086376

>>35086288
way to miss all my points and assume it's all just being mad at twitter

>> No.35086383

haha your japanese mlp is now mainstream and will feature blacks and trannies in the near future

>> No.35086393

>>35086288
>tons of japanese artists create doujins of touhou characters being gay and selling it, there is no issue there.
Also as said earlier, it's entirely possible for ZUN to have had this stuff flashed in his face

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Is this the loli thread?

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>>35086383
Anon...

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>>35086383
The previous attempt at putting in a character with a different skin color was SO badly received she lost to a fucking OTTER in the popularity poll.

>> No.35086574

touhou has been mainstream forever holy shit you freaks

>> No.35086584

>>35086503
I don't think that's a black person

>> No.35086595

>>35086567
I think being the ghost of a dead fetus really put people off more than the skin.

>> No.35086612

Why can’t the jay take it easy. These people will get bored and move on within the year. That’s how all fads are, especially with the lower attention spans of today.

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>>35086567
think of the orange people

>> No.35086652

>>35086612
Pelo will put Reimu and Marisa in Friday Night Funkin and then the incident can truly begin.

>> No.35086667

>>35086567
>different skin
You posted a literal dead fetus. At least get your story straight if you're going to BS your way through this thread.

>> No.35086672

>>35086652
thatd be kinda based

>> No.35086674

>>35086652
There's already a Touhou mod for at least one version of that so

>> No.35086706

Does anyone know if Sr Pelo will continue making Touhou animations or is this just a one time thing

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>>35086595
The few people that do draw her give her white skin consistently.

>> No.35086723

>>35086706
read the thread.

>> No.35086851

So was this thread moved from /v/ or is /jp/ being raided today as well?

>> No.35086862

everything I don't like is a raid - you

>> No.35086864

>>35086567
I didn't even notice she had a slightly darker skin tone compared to the other touhous until someone autistically pointed it out

>> No.35086898

>>35086864
most of the cast in WBaWC has different skin tones, some slightly less noticeable than others. it's actually really nice and i wish he did it again because it really makes them stand out from each other (even more so outside of their outfits and whatnot)

>> No.35086953

>>35086851
What do you think?

>> No.35087061

>>35086864
Some people obsess over 2hu skin tones zombie reimu

>> No.35087167

>>35077224
The best part was when it ended.
no really the bit with Reimu and Marisa at the end was nice and kinda sweet. On the whole it was fine but the stinger bit was the highlight.

>> No.35087295
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Seems decent enough. Don't fault the exceedingly rare Western creator producing something that clearly took effort and was done with passion because there might be dumb people watching his stuff. Wait, is he considered Western? Brazilian?
Not only that, but it's 2021 which means EoSD was nearly TWENTY years ago. I fully understand wanting to isolate on the internet and keep things pure, but this particular ship sailed a long time ago. 4chan (very much including /jp/) is generally pretty intolerable if you can't tolerate annoying teenagers anyway, so you can't really take offense to that crowd.

>> No.35087320

>>35087295
I think Brazil leans more to the Western world. if not his fans do

>> No.35087379

>>35087295
Pretty sure he’s mexican

>> No.35087487

>>35087295
You're right. There's no reason to gatekeep a fandom that's already mainstream and as popular as Touhou.

>> No.35087959

>>35086203
Agreed.
>>35085964
He hit the nail on the head there, but it’s a mix of capitalism and industrialization incentivizing people to have children less. Of course capitalism creates refinement and reason to improve your means of production so they go hand-in-hand.
The trade and barter system is the most comfy and is what Gensokyo uses

>> No.35087970

>>35086383
ZUN kneels to no one. Touhou is first and foremost made for himself and he doesnt give a fuck what the fans demand. Otherwise characters like Flandre would be in everything.
Now fuck off back to /pol/ retard

>> No.35088193

>>35087959
How is capitalism incentivizing people to have children less? Is it supposed to be a survival of the fittest situation where only the wealthy and intelligent are able enough to have children? One thing I noticed is that poorer countries tend to have higher birthrates than richer countries. Japan, a country that ZUN mentions had a higher birthrate in the past centuries than it did now in the modern era. ZUN could be arguing that the reason why the birthrate decreased to how it is now is because capitalism became more prominent in Japan, especially after the Cold War.

>> No.35088248

>>35088193
Children are expensive Anon, and they're only getting more expensive. It's nothing so sinister as a concerted survival of the fittest, it's just the rising cost of living

>> No.35088301

>>35088193
Capitalism requires innovation, innovation leads to industrialization to create maximum profit, after some time, industrialization leads to lower birthrates because people aren’t having 6-8 children to perform manual labour anymore
You can see this with industrial nations having a low fertility rate about a century after their revolution e.g., native births in USA, Japan, Europe, Australia, etc
I don’t personally think this is a crisis and instead the population will not drop forever and the native pop will stabilize at somewhere lower

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>>35085964
>>35088193
>capitalism bad
I hate it when artists and various retards in modern culture think that simply destroying capitalism will fix the problems in present society.
>modern citizens disillusioned with life but too lazy to alleviate whatever issues they have
>sociopath politician sees this and tricks them into voting for totalitarian policies
>now you have "socialism" where its a roided version of capitalism, and next thing you know your legs are being eaten by a gang of cannibals because there aren't enough bugs to feed the whole population
I wouldn't have a problem if these people were honest and said "yeah I hate myself and everything around me, and it'll make me happy to destroy everything until I croak" but they genuinely think the opposite.

>> No.35088692

>>35088639
I am an absolute monarchist and oppose capitalism.

>> No.35089020

>>35088639
You're reading way too much into it. Artists and creative types in general have a way of thinking that puts them at odds with the money-obsessed types that generally water down their creations for market appeal. Artists are great at picturing other worlds and realities, because if they weren't then they wouldn't be good artists. Some of them are also idealists.
Try not to be offended by it, it's unlikely ZUN will have a twitter political feud with you.

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So what the fuck is /pol/ doing here anyways?

>> No.35089329

>>35085364
It's not a critique of capitalism, it's critique of crypto-currency and non-physical market.

Go back tothe middle school, because you cannot interpret piece of media for shit.

>> No.35089416

>>35089255
Infesting every board and every thread, from 2016 until the entire anglosphere gets locked out of the internet forever.

>> No.35089462

>>35089255
>/pol/
Not liking some shitty animation by a twitter-tier youtuber apparently makes you a fascist now.

>> No.35089556

It's all going downhill from here

>> No.35089580

Delicious 2huniggers tears
Enjoy getting your favorite media raped to death faggots

>> No.35089589

>>35089580
Whatever

>> No.35089593

>>35077224
Based
How do we get a vtuber to watch this so /jp/ can shit AND piss itself at the same time?

>> No.35089607

>>35089589
*pats*
Don't worry anon, you will forget about all of this when you die :^)

>> No.35089626

>>35088639
Why would you defend capitalism at all? Where's your deed to your factory? capitalism defenders are so weird when they barely benefit from it, they just help someone else leech off of them. capitalism in america/japan is absolute dogshit, i'd much prefer a social democracy that europe has (with advancement to a socialist society)

also who are you quoting?

>> No.35089633

>>35089329
crypto is cringe and for redditors

>> No.35089637

wHo ARe yOU qUOting??!??!?!?
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

>> No.35089642

If gatekeeping works then how come the gate isn't holding, bros?
What are you doing wrong?
Normies celebrating fumo memes and making western styled cartoons, this isn't looking great.

>> No.35089656

>>35089593
Who are you quoting, crossie

>> No.35089663

>>35089607
It won't be that bad. Everytime something like that happens people say it is the end, yet here we are.

>> No.35089672

>>35089656
Wanna try saying that in english, doc?

>> No.35089684

>>35089672
What are you on about?

>> No.35089698

>>35089684
Huh!? Huh!? Huh!?

>> No.35089718

>>35089698
Great conversation

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>>35077224
I admit, I didn't find anything funny until the sound effect of pic related appeared out of nowhere

>> No.35089833

>>35077345
>Premiered 17 hours ago
>497,489 views
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Not even 500,000!!! Touhou becoming mainstream my ass. Ha ha ha!

>> No.35090336

>>35085964
For the record, the Hifuu CD storyline is set far enough into the future that this is actually a thing; currently only China is really doing the whole population control thing, but it is what ZUN sees happening in one of a few potential futures
The thing is, just so everyone knows, ZUN is a major proponent of ideals that don’t mesh very well with 4chan’s reactionary ones; he supports gay people (on at least one podcast, he got extremely serious and angry when people began to make jokes about gay people), he supports legalisation of marijuana and people who are disabled (Okina is specifically designed as a character to represent disabled people who need wheelchairs), and Gensokyo has many, many characters who if not explicitly (like Toyosatomimi no Miko who is literally shown to have existed as Shotoku back in the day, and Suika who has literally outright stated she was Shuten-Douji, who is a boy mythically), are implicitly transgender (like Narumi and Eiki, who both originated as Jizo statues, which are typically male statues)
In addition, the Lunarians are very specifically a critique of the fascistic behaviours of both the ancient kami in the Kojiki and the Meiji-era fascists, even having sentient beings as slaves

Touhou’s been political the whole time. You’ve just been ignoring that.

>> No.35090434

>>35077591
>>35079673
The way I see it, there's nothing wrong with new people joining in as long as they actually like it the way the oldfags like it and not demand it be changed so it can be like something they like, like with what happened with Total War

>> No.35090545

>>35090434
This

>> No.35090815

>>35090336
>he supports gay people (on at least one podcast, he got extremely serious and angry when people began to make jokes about gay people)
I have only heard of this one time before and the source was never properly posted or conveyed

>> No.35090880

>>35090815
Alright, I’ll link it to you then:
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=13935.0
This topic contains a link to the image board threads that Japanese people had about the event, which while they may be inaccessible immediately can easily be accessed by going to the internet archive

>> No.35090956

>>35090336
>Okina is specifically designed as a character to represent disabled people who need wheelchair
I don't know why but this makes me laugh so much

>> No.35090998

>>35077224
fucking normie shit

>> No.35091006

>thread is full of people defending sr pelo and his shitty cartoon
Fuck off and take your spic psychicpebbles rip-off with you.

>> No.35091071

>>35090434
>The way I see it, there's nothing wrong with new people joining in as long as they actually like it the way the oldfags like it
Stopped reading there. You know just as well as I do that this never happens and eventually the community becomes overrun with faggots and destroys itself. Nothing lasts forever. Thats why old 4chan kept pumping out new original memes while reddit kept repeating the same boring formats for like12 years now

>> No.35091091

>>35090336
That's a whole lot of coping and delusion. Your mental illness will never be accepted, it will never be normalized, remember that.

>> No.35091172

>>35090880
>>35090336
The part about trans characters is disingenunous mostly in part because we know jack about Shotoku in the past. Even if it were gender bending and simply not myth getting twisted by time, that is the same as trans, nor is it likely he was onto such movements (especially the western variant) at the time of TDs release since they were pretty obscure.
On the topic of myths, they are very nebulous and ZUN often does not portray them 100% accurately to how they are told. Suika as a character was never mentioned to be male, and even if she was it could also be myths twisted by time. ZUN's portrayal of "male" characters from myths have always had them as girls anyway. One part could be in fact because of how little eastern religion tends to care about gender. For example, Okina's mythological makeup (which ZUN alludes to several times) ranges anywhere from being the god of moms and part of the indian Saptamatrika, to being the father of 180 gods as Daikokuten.
In that, there's no "trans" politics, just gender bending and it's never potrayed politically either.
Lunarians are probably not soley a critique of fascists, but of isolationists in general, which goes in hand with them being more of less Chinese but whatever. Everything else is correct though, ZUN can have his politics if he wants and legalizing marijuana can kill black markets that gangs use for money.

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>>35090956
I can't believe someone actually took Hirasaka's shitposting seriously

>> No.35091189

>>35091172
that is not the same as trans*
>>35091181

>> No.35091247

>>35091172
I'll also add that 100% consistency with myths has never been Touhou's thing. It's inspired by myths, but if you are going to seriously argue the contents of the franchise it's best to stick to what ZUN explicitly alludes to.
For example, Kanako takes from two gods who are not the same. She's alluded to as being Takeminakata but this isn't really reflected in her character, especially in regard to characters like Okina whom she should be related to if we're breaking things down to myth.
So in my opinion, using the inconsistency of myth to argue certain political aspects of the series is intellectually dishonest.

>> No.35091428

>>35091172
>>35091181
Imagine not reading Strange Creators of Outer World
Also, with regards to the Miko as trans thing; definitionally, choosing to genderbend oneself because they feel they would prefer the body more is transgender. Miko is canonically historically male in the Touhou universe, as seen in Sanae’s ending where she looks at a picture of Shotoku and says ‘wait this person has a beard’ and gets generally confused about it. It’s also canon that hermits, when they wake up, get to choose a different body.
Being ‘transgender’ does not simply extend to ‘haha I want to literally do all of the medical procedures that exist and are imperfect but generally work’, it also extends to ‘I just want to have a girl’s body’ if they are male, and taking actions to give oneself a girl’s body if they are male is generally trans-adjacent, if not directly trans.
In addition, ZUN very directly talks about the Okina thing in at least one of his Strange Creators of Outer World interviews (he also specifically notes that he thinks it would annoy people, most likely people on 4chan and the similar types in Japan, if he made it more explicit); also he right away says Okina is Matarajin very very very explicitly in the interview as well
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Strange_Creators_of_Outer_World/Hidden_Star_in_Four_Seasons_Interview_with_ZUN

>> No.35091635

>>35077591
>>35077617
>>35077870
>>35078103
>>35088639
>>35089833
>>35091006
Who are you quoting?

>> No.35091725

>>35091428
>Miko is canonically historically male in the Touhou universe, as seen in Sanae’s ending where she looks at a picture of Shotoku and says ‘wait this person has a beard’ and gets generally confused about it.
This was already dealt with in my post anon. It can simply fall under the umbrella of myths and history twisted by time. Miko's japanese title of Crown Prince also only refers to being an heir in general, not explicitly prince. All in all, there are no explicit allusions of her being formerly male as the character known as Toyosatomimi no Miko. There's the historical character Shoutoku who was her, but no real proof that she really was like her.
>It’s also canon that hermits, when they wake up, get to choose a different body.
When was this stated, if ever? Do you mean the whole part about reincarnation? There's no explicit mention of turning into a girl anywhere. If it's going to be like that, then it's down to headcanon. Even if it weren't, there's no sign of dysphoria or anything, and it could literally be reincarnation things. Jumping to trans in this instance is also jumping to conclusions, which alludes back to my other posts of honesty.
>>35091635
ure mum

>> No.35091785

>>35091725
Oh and before anything else is dropped on me I suggest reading this. There's a real chance that Shoutoku falls under the same inconsistent myth argument I've already mentioned.
>>/jp/thread/S21484002#p21491228

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>>35091725
>When was this stated, if ever? Do you mean the whole part about reincarnation?
Yes, which very explicitly states that since they’ve abandoned their flesh and blood they have some freedoms as to forms they can assume in Futo’s article here:

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Symposium_of_Post-mysticism/Mononobe_no_Futo
>All in all, there are no explicit allusions of her being formerly male as the character known as Toyosatomimi no Miko.
That’s just wrong
See Sanae’s ending in Ten Desires, which is fairly explicit

>> No.35091921

>>35091635
>>35089833 anon here, I was quoting the Youtube video posted by >>35077345 anon. Hope that clears things up.

>> No.35092062

>>35091879
>Yes, which very explicitly states that since they’ve abandoned their flesh and blood they have some freedoms as to forms they can assume
I ran into this as I was looking about between the posting times. My mistake, but there's no explicit telling that Miko turned herself into a girl. And even if so, nothing about dysphoria or such. Her motives would be a mystery left up to your headcanon.
>See Sanae’s ending in Ten Desires, which is fairly explicit
Prince Shoutoku can be a sham because Miko could always have been Shoutoku AKA a woman without most people catching on.
It's not explicit. In fact the wording could be looked at in all these ways.
>Shoutoku is a sham, that's why this happened in the first place
Fits with the post I linked to which has a ZUN interview about Shoutoku literally not existing in reality.
>Prince Shoutoku was a sham because he was actually a woman called Toyosatomimi no Miko
Doesn't require any occam's razor. It's a simple thing.
>Prince Shoutoku was a sham because he turned into a woman for mysterious reasons
Quite frankly the oddest of the ones you could pick here, aside from the next. Only supported because of the comment on Futo's article, but it once again has no real allusions other than "modern times," which is ambiguous and could even refer to stuff like clothing, hairstyle or complexion.
>Prince Shoutoku was a sham because he turned into a woman to appease his gender dysphoria
Essentially a more advanced example of what I put above, this time with politics that only entered any kind of mainstream around 2015.
Please do excuse me but I think we're just entering extremely speculatory territories instead of looking at the simplest stuff, which also coincides with ZUN's interviews.

>> No.35092145

>>35085542
>i think more people are scared of new fans shitting things up more than anything.
touhou has been mainstream for over a decade and it peaked in fucking 2007-2010, way back near mof and sa

you guys are fucking retarded, there have always been a ton of western fans.

>> No.35092337

>>35092145
It's never been mainstream. Popular, sure, but never mainstream, even in 2008 at its peak.

>> No.35092362

>>35092062
Yeah but if Shoutoku was a sham because he was a woman in the first place, why would ZUN explicitly show a character reacting to a male version of her, have said character go ‘eh? Those must have been different people’ and then immediately after say in third person omniscient that Sanae wasn’t very good at history? Also, even if ZUN thinks Shoutoku doesn’t exist, that doesn’t mean Shoutoku didn’t exist as a person within the Touhou series; that’s an ignorant conclusion to reach IMO
As for ‘mainstream politics’, ZUN doesn’t exactly have mainstream views; he never has, as evidenced by the CD storylines and how they’re very explicitly anti-capitalist and pro-expression

>> No.35092437

>>35089462
He means this >>35086383 and the posts about gays

>> No.35092625

>>35092437
I see… I also wonder what is /pol/ doing is this types of threads. Is there some cuck who lets them know something is up on jay, or are /pol/tards regulary lurking here?

>> No.35092644

hilarious to see people who were probably part of the initial wave of normalfags jumping on in 2009 now thinking they're the special niche hardcore "original" fans getting driven out by other normalfags

>> No.35092737

>>35092644
>people who were probably part of the initial wave of normalfags jumping on in 2009
And you aren't, anon? Stop LARPing, kid. You probably weren't even alive back in 2009.

>> No.35092745

>>35092362
>why would ZUN explicitly show a character reacting to a male version of her, have said character go ‘eh? Those must have been different people’ and then immediately after say in third person omniscient that Sanae wasn’t very good at history?
Maybe because she's not good at history? It said that it motivated her to take interest in ancient history. Are you seriously going to omit the whole of the ending just to try and add these meanings to it?
It's literally "wait a minute, Shoutoku doesn't look like that person" which still fits the other options I've presented.
>Also, even if ZUN thinks Shoutoku doesn’t exist, that doesn’t mean Shoutoku didn’t exist as a person within the Touhou series; that’s an ignorant conclusion to reach IMO
According to ZUN's interview she's literally in Gensokyo because people believed that Shoutoku was fake.
>He's suddenly been made into a fictional character recently, so I used the opportunity to move him to Gensokyo. Many thanks~
This fits the ending to a T at the end, if you actually read it as a sentence. In Touhou, Shoutoku as a guy that existed was basically proven not real so she got moved into Gensokyo, being the actual Shoutoku instead of the basically fake identity. Since Miko's not a youkai he'd have to have existed in some form beforehand however. Probably under an identity that became Shoutoku over time. As I've said before, this is not even canon territory anymore, including your position, we're arguing conjecture and taking the stance that "this is what he meant" is simply not something you can conclusively say.
>As for ‘mainstream politics’, ZUN doesn’t exactly have mainstream views; he never has, as evidenced by the CD storylines and how they’re very explicitly anti-capitalist and pro-expression
When I refer to mainstream politics I refer to the whole movement which is trying to be attached to this. What I'm saying is that you have to rely extremely on headcanon to determine anything about Miko's pre-gensokyo days. You can think what you want, but ultimately you should start by saying it is your opinion.
Once again, ZUN can have his politics if he wants. I wouldn't call them as much anti-capitalist as much as they are anti-consumerist and pro-environmental though. But that's just me.

>> No.35093127

>>35092737
I'm over 30 but thanks. Even if I was part of the retarded McRoll generation I'm not the one crying that somehow normalfags are ruining touhou in 2021 when its been popular for over a decade.

>> No.35093202

the whole "react to bearded guy" seems like a mild joke to me since everyone knows Touhous are historical figures or mythical legends that end up in Gensokyo as danmaku girls, regardless of the former's gender

>> No.35093357

>>35077224
I enjoyed it quite a bit

>> No.35093438

>>35078804
The mindset of "I don't want it to get worse" comes from the ignorance that the "Touhou fandom" as a whole *used to* be at its worst. MUCH more fanon, MUCH more explicitly out of character content, an entire "series" born of the image and none of the spirit of Touhou (Cookie)

The damage was done literally decades ago, people either don't know that or are feigning ignorance.

>> No.35093535

>>35086567
Yeah let's mention this one literal stage 1 girl with no relevance and say she's some kind of failure and NOT mention the absolute explosion that was tanned Cirno

>> No.35093587

>>35093535
>tanned
Since when tan is considered a skin color?

>> No.35093594

>>35093587
It's literally a coloration of skin

>> No.35093617

>>35093594
Not permanent

>> No.35093625

>>35093438
By the way even stuff like "political agendae" in fandom have long been around, it even used to make me steer clear of Touhou because loads of people, even people from here, claimed it to be enormously gay.

Everything you could worry about happening in the future for the "Touhou fandom" is already happening, and has already happened. How much does it effect you?

Probably doesn't. Those people making weird claims have always been around and you just don't see them because the fandom is literally so massive that you can't even notice. The majority of "fans" don't even play the games

>> No.35093734

>>35093535
Nobody draws tan Cirno anymore.

>> No.35093756

>>35093734
You can just go look it up on pixiv yourself and see that that's incorrect

>> No.35093758

>One video rustled this many jimmies.

Was it this bad when Bad Apple got it's famous redo?

>> No.35093792

>>35093758
The fact of the matter is "it western it bad" is all braindeads tend to think. Aside from a few odder jokes, the video is deep 2hu core, largely meant to make a genuine fan chuckle

>> No.35093959

Still better than anything /jp/ produces.

>> No.35094094

>>35093959
We haven't made anything in a couple of years, that's a fact, but still there are some good /jp/ projects. Like the Touhou GTA server or the Touhou Warband mod.

>> No.35094108

>>35093959
/jp/ also makes translations from time to time.

>> No.35094131

i guess everything always decays into shit
why can't anything stay good
feels like i'm better off not having anything to like because everything just decays into pure shit unless you are the one who made it and thus have full control over it

>> No.35094165

>>35093758
People were too busy laughing at CNN's incompetence at the time.

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>>35093959
/jp/ finished Shanghai though.

>> No.35094503

>>35088193
>How is capitalism incentivizing people to have children less?
It's less about capitalism and more about the effect it has. Read.

>> No.35094570

>>35089642
There's gatekeeping, then there's no fun allowed.
It surprises me how 2chan can have civil discussion, but the shitpost brigade comes out in droves when talking about the same thing.

>> No.35094579

I'm tired of the type of fans who think all media is political and reflects the views of the creator if you write about certain views. They don't appreciate stories, only agendas.
>>35091247
This, most of the themes in Touhou are mish mashed between different mythos. Taking everything at face value and twisting it to your headcanons is kinda silly.

>> No.35094705

>>35094178
It is not a /jp/ originated project. Anyone could have done it if they had the drive. That's the equivalent of saying you made a gun if all you did was assemble the remaining two pieces required for it to function.

>> No.35094807

>>35094705
>Anyone could have done it
And yet no one did.

Also, you are also part of /jp/, so if you spend time complaining insted of doing something, YOU are the problem!

>> No.35094818

>>35094807
Well it's a good thing I'm not apart of the problem.

>> No.35094833

>>35094807
People have told you multiple times why that's a retarded take and yet you're so fucking persistent with it way to go

>> No.35094843

>>35094833
You say it's retarded because it's true.

>> No.35094847

>>35091247
>For example, Kanako takes from two gods who are not the same. She's alluded to as being Takeminakata but this isn't really reflected in her character, especially in regard to characters like Okina whom she should be related to if we're breaking things down to myth.
What's canon is that Kanako is the child of one of Okina's probable facets, however technically we do not KNOW if they're related.

Yukari talked about this in SSiB

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>>35094847
Basically, to put this another way: Okina is most likely Ookuninushi, and Ookuninushi is confirmed to be Kanako's parent or whatever, but Okina is not confirmed to be Ookuninushi.

The wording in the tl is also weird here, would love to see the raw. Obviously, Kanako is not a "son"

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>>35094884
Shit, I dunno where the fucking previous page went for my post. Whatever, here. This goes before that page there

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>>35094898
>>35094884
Hm, no ambiguity here. But, then it's confusing. I mean, Yukari could be partially bullshitting I guess, but she's talking about the Moriya Shrine, and the situation of that Shrine is Kanako out front, Suwako in the back

>> No.35096183

>>35090434
I'm not a strategy game person so can you enlighten me on what happened with Total War? I only ever played one of those Warhammer titles back in the day.

>> No.35096184

>>35089637
average quality of post from doomposters and crossboarders

>>35089642
touhou has been for normalfags for over 10 years

>> No.35096331

>>35096183
CA saw how profitable Warhammer became and kept pushing out fantasy shit instead of historical games.

>> No.35096359

>>35096331
Ahh gotcha. Didn't even realize that the 40k game was part of the problem.

>> No.35096860

>>35096359
It's actually just Warhammer Fantasy, not 40k.

>> No.35097615

>>35086567
She lost to the Eagle Spirit actually. The order was
Keiki>Yachie>Kutaka>Mayumi>Saki>Eagle>Urumi>Eika>Wolf>Otter

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>>35097615
That's even more of an anomaly because 17.5 never ever eagle posting didn't exist back then.

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>>35097717
I personally thought Eagle was the funniest spirit so I'm not surprised he did the best.
>For just this moment, I, the mighty eagle, shall be Marisa Kirisame!

>> No.35098302

>>35090336
>>35091172
>>35091428
thanks anon!

>> No.35098331

>>35092745
>I wouldn't call them as much anti-capitalist as much as they are anti-consumerist and pro-environmental though.
>they are anti-consumerist and pro-environmental
thats literally anti-capitalism

>> No.35098405

I will never fucking understand the appeal of his videos
Is it just a case of someone getting lucky with his fame at the right time, which makes normalfags force themselves to think that just because he has good numbers his content must be good as well?

>> No.35098428

>>35098405
Nobody cares about numbers if they enjoy something.

>> No.35098515

>>35098405
To me, his humor calls back a little to some old Looney Tunes stuff. Some slapstick shit happens, and he howls, but it's noticeably a cartoonish howl rather than something you'd hear from the big YT guys from the past decade.

>> No.35099144

i see eosd characters in any fan media i ignore it

simple like that

>> No.35099373

>>35091921
You're misusing the function.

>> No.35100253

people will try to go muh sekrit club on Pelo's stuff when these newfags weren't around when Flandre Scarlet was booming on YTP-era of Youtube.

>> No.35100264

>>35100253
make sure nobody tells /jp/ that children in japan get into touhou through yukkuri minecraft lets plays

>> No.35100289

>>35100264
There's that that one yukkuri channel with literally 2 billion total views

>> No.35101084

>>35100253
U.N Owen was Her and Night of Nights were the meme songs that defined the 2000's era

>> No.35101388

>>35094131
Why can't (You) stay good anon?
You were cute and your parents were proud of you when you were a kid.

>> No.35101402

As always, first they hate you.

>> No.35101466

>>35089607
back to your vteen general

>> No.35101531

>>35100253
You were still shitting your pants back then. Stop larping crossie teen.

>> No.35101548

>>35101531
>Stop larping crossie teen.
Not him but what about the UN Owen remixes do those not exist?
I didn't actively look for that stuff in that era of youtube, but thinking back on it, I fucking miss that era.

>> No.35101556

>>35101548
Of course they do.

>> No.35101620

>>35096183
>>35096331
It's a little more complicated, for the most part, TW had a lot of depth to it you could be armies bigger and more experienced than you with good tactics, then they made the Warhammer game, since it was made for the small brain of a warhammerfag, they made the game solely stat based, bigger number = better army, the game got super popular and brought in a ton of newfags who prefered the stat based Warhammer way so now they're trying to apply this to EVERY TW game moving forward

>> No.35101760

>>35092745
ZUN saying that Shoutoku does not exist so Shoutoku appeared in Gensokyo does not mean Shoutoku actually did not exist in the world of Touhou; Gensokyo is a place for the forgotten. The world of Touhou is not our world, despite being based off of it. Within the world of Touhou, stuff such as Urashima Tarou’s visit to the Dragon King’s Palace did actually happen.
Also, the ending implies Shoutoku did exist as he did in real life, as there were multiple different historical paintings that included him up to the modern day, and Sanae finding the old note with the picture of him on it implies that his image always had him with a moustache and masculine features, like it did in the real world - which would not be present on someone who was ‘just pretending to be a man’
Also, if Shoutoku did not exist as a man in Touhou before becoming Miko, why is ZUN using literal male pronouns to refer to him?

>> No.35101788

>>35101620
Oh it's that bad? That does sound like shit.

>> No.35102103

>>35101388
wouldn't everyone here would be tho
and really
why even fucking bother with who you are
at least all i want is to keep something the closest to good as it is

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>>35077224
Sr Pelo making a Touhou video will just put Touhou in a bigger spotlight for a little while, and then it'll die down. I'm more afraid of what would happen if Touhou collaborated with Smash Ultimate. There have been rumors of Reimu being added but that's just from wishful people. I doubt ZUN would sell his series out like that.

>> No.35102550

>>35102465
I haven't bothered looking into it, but is there any word around on how/why there's now a Touhou gacha mobage with Goodsmile?

>> No.35102556

>>35102465
>There have been rumors of Reimu being added but that's just from wishful people.
They've been saying that shit for years. Stop worrying about it.

>> No.35102573

>>35102465
ZUN won't let Smash use his characters dude

>> No.35102637

>>35102573
ZUN has said before that he actually wants his characters in Smash
He's also said that you can't just have a character put into Smash out of nowhere, so that's why Reimu hasn't been put into Smash already. He'd have to get approached by Nintendo first

>> No.35102663

>>35089833
This is already more than Touhou normally gets. Usually touhou videos, even meme ones like the "Hey Mister Remastered" don't even reach 100k despite being posted 2 years ago. So yeah, I do believe Touhou is going mainstream.

>> No.35102758

>>35077608
always

>> No.35102856

whining about people sharing your interest is somehow gatekeeping.
anyway, bumplimit is here.

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>>35102465
Well good news you don't need to worry about that since they're not gonna put Reimu in Smash.

>> No.35102980

>>35101620
Did you play RTW Remastered yet? I've heard it was a disappointment.

>> No.35103045

>>35102980
It's really just Rome 1 with better graphics and optimization, you'll be disappointed if you were expecting to not play Rome 1

>> No.35104308

>>35102465
"Selling out" is having your character in a famous series which treats IPs with the utmost respect and care?

Oh wait Smash fans bad. Not like Touhou fans are already terrible or anything

>> No.35104400

just die

>> No.35104464

>>35090434
This as fuck

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>>35101620
And then came Three Kingdoms... I don't even want them to make Medieval 3 anymore since MK1212 will probably be miles better than anything CA can make these days.

why am i even discussing total war on the jay?

>> No.35104629

>>35104400
but anon i've got so many other posts to misinterpret to push my own views that nobody asked for!

>> No.35104688

>>35091071
>You know just as well as I do that this never happens and eventually the community becomes overrun with faggots and destroys itself
you think ZUN cares about what western faggots regurgitate on a daily basis?
as long as the main games aren't affected, why should you care? And the 2hu culture on this site is different from other places as well, hell, even then there are differences between boards.

>> No.35104703

>>35104688
One of the few posts worth reading this thread.

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35105099

Open the flood gates anon.. The darkwraiths of /jp/ are rising from the abyss...

>> No.35105525

>>35102637
>He's also said that you can't just have a character put into Smash out of nowhere, so that's why Reimu hasn't been put into Smash already. He'd have to get approached by Nintendo first
Got a sauce on this? There's a friend I wanna flash it in their face (not because I want Reimu in smash or anything it's because I like being proven I'm right).

I remember the current head of the Ninja Gaiden series basically saying that "they're waiting for an invitation" in regards to Ryu Hayabusa getting in which more or less translates to that

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>>35105525
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Strange_Articles_of_the_Outer_World/ZUN_long_interview

>> No.35105820

>>35105807
gracias anon

>> No.35105953

>>35102856
And it's a good thing

>> No.35106053

>>35105953
You're screaming about people who don't even know you exist. It's a waste of time.

>> No.35106170

>>35101760
>ZUN saying that Shoutoku does not exist so Shoutoku appeared in Gensokyo does not mean Shoutoku actually did not exist in the world of Touhou
You must be seriously having brain farts because I already presented the idea that Shoutoku would've existed, but not as Shoutoku. It was myth and legend that made Shoutoku into a man and when he was recognized as myth he went to Gensokyo.
My argument has already fit the other options you can throw at me into this by the way, it's all mostly nebulous shit only defined by loose headcanons. Didn't you see the red thread through my posts? I said that you can't conclusively proclaim anything off of the information we're using, and that it ultimately is conjecture. Including your bid at your personal politics being inserted into the whole thing just as I view the Lunarians as partially a reflection on the Chinese.
>Also, the ending implies Shoutoku did exist as he did in real life, as there were multiple different historical paintings that included him up to the modern day, and Sanae finding the old note with the picture of him on it implies that his image always had him with a moustache and masculine features, like it did in the real world - which would not be present on someone who was ‘just pretending to be a man’
Paintings can exist of literally anything. It was already established in my argument that history and myth can be twisted by time, there's no reason to believe that such is specifically miko.
Also, do you genuinely believe moustaches are hard to fake? Are you retarded?
By the way, can you stop making arguments and then refuse to give examples or sources? What male pronouns? You mean "Taishi"? Which doesn't exactly have to apply to a literal prince? Or do you just mean in the ending regarding Shoutoku, whose existence as "the man known as Shoutoku" is dubious?

>> No.35106177

>>35106170
>By the way, can you stop making arguments and then refuse to give examples or sources?
Or rather, can you actually hand the source along with your argument instead of waiting.

>> No.35106214

>>35106177
I also see that at some point you also didn't comprehend what I was writing. Maybe I'm not that good at it, but it is not necessary for historical "facts" or myth to reflect reality in the case of Touhou. Shoutoku is portrayed as male by historians and in myth, but Miko is never portrayed as such. Therefor in the vein of what I've said, you could easily come up with an idea that Miko's existence has simply been twisted into that of a male over time. Whether through propaganda or whatever else.
Again, you can have other explanations but dumping a bunch of psychological problems into it instead of going the simple route is dumb. Even moreso, talking about all of this as if you can put it forth as canon is also dumb, because all stances are speculation.

>> No.35108070

Miko is shit and Byakuren is much better anyway.

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Found your meme image.

>> No.35117317

>>35094094
>Touhou Warband mod.
That's not by /jp/, it was by the chinese and continued by an outside discord group.

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