First thought when you saw the Orochi for the first time? Mine was "Well this doesn't look very fair..." Then he wiped out all 6 of my characters in a single attack, and that thought was amplified quite a bit.

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Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:46:41 2009 No.3499654 [Reply] [Original]

First thought when you saw the Orochi for the first time?

Mine was "Well this doesn't look very fair..."
Then he wiped out all 6 of my characters in a single attack, and that thought was amplified quite a bit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:48:41 2009 No.3499662 "Hmmm okay, let's see how this works, let's google "youtube orochi fight Rance"."

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:49:41 2009 No.3499668 File: 345 KB, 800x450, 800px-Orochimaru_As_A_Kid.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Remember when Orochimaru was cool?

MolesterJim Mon Oct 5 18:51:41 2009 No.3499675

>>3499654
Due to not paying attention in the 50% patch, I thought it'd be like most other dungeons.
The game laughed on my fucking face and enjoyed it.
Same with Road to Hades.

If you do know what awaits you, it is feasible, just takes quite the prep time.
I don't think it can be done unless you get either Rance or Kentarou to 90+

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:54:41 2009 No.3499683 >>3499675 Oh, I beat him on my 2nd try. Rance was 67, I think, and as you can see Kentarou was 47. I just picked a buttload of good dungeon characters to wear him down to nothing over time. It wasn't easy, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:58:41 2009 No.3499702 >>3499668 Orochimaru was cooler when he was middle aged, like when he fought in the 3rd great ninja war.

>>	MolesterJim Mon Oct 5 18:58:41 2009 No.3499701 >>3499683 I'm not sure if the actual amount of damage is enough, if you have not maxed most caps and Gave Rance/Kentarou serious levels Granted, when I fought him, I did not have the One-Eye characters nor Kentarou (monkey route), but still.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:01:41 2009 No.3499719 >>3499654 What game is this? Yes, I'm a noob.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:02:41 2009 No.3499728 >>3499719 Okami.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:03:41 2009 No.3499734

>>3499701
I didn't have Dokuganryuu characters either, that probably made it harder for me. And Kentarou seems to be fairly useless against the Orochi, or at least for me he did terribly low damage.
In contrast, Souun was almost ridiculously good. I one-shotted an Orochi Girl with him, which I couldn't even do with lvl68 Baba's Strong Charge.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:04:41 2009 No.3499737 File: 118 KB, 800x600, ALCG0049.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Orochi is such a lazy mofo, deserves having an island fall on him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:04:41 2009 No.3499743 >>3499719 Sengoku Rance. If you don't mind all the random raep, it's an excellent strategy RPG.

MolesterJim Mon Oct 5 19:08:41 2009 No.3499758
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>>3499734
Kentarou is the best Dungeon hitter, and due to levels, most durable too.
Rance second best.
Rance at 99 got 100 HP damage from Orochi, and dealt about 300.
Add Sill at lv 96 restoring his actions, and you get the idea.

Still, I'm curious of the characters you used.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:09:41 2009 No.3499761 Takes too much time to lv99 Rance and Kentarou and you don't need them that much for Orochi.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:23:41 2009 No.3499806
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>>3499761
Level 99 Kentarou isn't so bad with all his events and a bit of Gigai farming. I just didn't do it because I couldn't turn him into a Majin quickly enough, so I just killed Gigai. Rance though... yikes, I don't wanna think about getting him to 99.
>>3499758
Here's the list of characters I used, with Ranmaru's level included so you can see how many dungeons I did.
Kentarou did absolutely fantastic damage on dungeon monsters, but for some reason almost nothing against the Orochi... I don't know what the reason might be.

MolesterJim Mon Oct 5 19:28:41 2009 No.3499822

>>3499806
Lower level than Orochi=Damage problem.
Usually.
And you do have some good members, like Soun, Seigan and Tokugawa. However, I though anyone would do all the dungeons possible before Orochi's.

Come to think of it, I mostly obliterated Orochi with Rance+Sill, I did not see how many actually died.

It may be slightly easier to accomplish than I though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:31:41 2009 No.3499832 >>3499822 Yes... I attacked him to see his abilities and how much more leveling I'd need to do, but apparently he's nowhere as hard as one might think. Aside from that BS ability that kills everyone, but I think he can only do that once per fight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:31:41 2009 No.3499836 Just confirming, but unit stats (eg. STR, INT etc.) don't do anything in commander battles, right? Because otherwise it might be worth investing in INT for everyone seeing as most of the enemy attacks are magic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:33:41 2009 No.3499839 Get Rizna in after the kill-everyone attack and keep restoring her actions while angel cutting everything

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:33:41 2009 No.3499840 >>3499836 Nope.

>>	MolesterJim Mon Oct 5 19:34:41 2009 No.3499846 >>3499832 That was pretty much my great strategy, knowing that I should send only fodder first.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:34:41 2009 No.3499847 >>3499839 Angel cutter doesn't work in commander battles and even if it did, the orochi girls would heal themselves.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:52:41 2009 No.3499906 >>3499847 That reminds me I should go fix the wiki AGAIN. Some of the info on the Orochi fight is wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:57:41 2009 No.3499920 When I fought Orochi, he never once used his "kill everybody" attack, and I ended up not even ever bringing in half my team, including Kenshin or Rance. It was a very underwhelming fight.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:01:41 2009 No.3499931

>>3499920
...He uses it right on start-up.
And Orochi's HP require either capping most people or relying on guarding/replenishing the top guns(even better, do both).
Most units should die in two attacks.
Of course, I did fight Orochi in 1 and 2 star, so maybe it gets easier on normal?

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:06:41 2009 No.3499949

>>3499931
I only fought him twice, but he didn't use his kill-all ability immediately the second time around. It took him many actions before he decide to use it.
It's probably easier on Normal difficulty, because I only did a few dungeons and beat him on my 2nd try (first try knowing he was able to kill everyone instantly).

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:08:41 2009 No.3499953 >>3499931 >...He uses it right on start-up. Only happened during the middle of combat to me. Was annoying as fuck, because I was running out of good troops. Almost fucked up everything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:09:41 2009 No.3499957 Ok, get ready for one of the noobish questions of your life. How exactly do you get your commanders to level up? I took over a couple of countries and I kinda want to have insane army levels to keep up,

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:12:41 2009 No.3499974 >>3499647 > lol i alredy red dat at anоntalk.com last nite lolcats

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:12:41 2009 No.3499975 >>3499957 Rance raping them levels them up. Even the male ones.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:12:41 2009 No.3499976

>>3499957
What you see are the TROOP stats.
For them to be raised ,you either use items(temporary boost or permanent), or raise their Affection (by talking to them, using them in battle, items and other ways) till they hit 7, where when talking again, you will have options of upgrading the unit, stats included.
Commonly, you will get various Textbooks that upgrade various stats, though there is a limit.

For COMMANDER battles, you never see their stats, only the levels.
Raised by going to dungeons, items and bonus on the Affection list.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:53:41 2009 No.3500190 Huh. I owned Takeda by turn 10. So it's quite possible to get Takeda and Dokuganryuu house bonuses and get enough NP to recruit Gekkou on top of that... nice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:56:41 2009 No.3500222 >>3500190 As long as you fire a couple generics, sure. You can conquer at least 4 houses by turn 2.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:57:41 2009 No.3500230 >>3500222 No you can't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:58:41 2009 No.3500234 >>3500222 What, how?

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:59:41 2009 No.3500244

>>3500222
I fired Nagahide and he's only worth 1 NP, and I have 5 free.
Technically you could keep all your commanders, though I don't see why someone would want to. Nagahide is so useless... keep him the whole game once on your first playthough, fire him on all subsequent playthroughs!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 21:01:41 2009 No.3500256 >>3500222 You can't declare war in the first turn, so that leaves all your attacking to turn 2, and you don't have enough action fans that early on to even vassal 4 houses let alone conquer them.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 21:01:41 2009 No.3500257

>>3500234
>>3500230
Ashikaga and Hara by turn 6-7.
Tokugawa can be done in 2-3.
Add another house of your choice.
Of course, requires a 3d fan, and some luck(not many attacks by the opponent to reclaim, or attacking your territory instead of reclaiming their own. Or play dirty and use covert action).
If you get Shibata to 1000 quickly and give him a permit, it's even easier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 21:05:41 2009 No.3500278 >>3500257 Did you mean "Turn 12", rather than "Turn 2"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 21:05:41 2009 No.3500288 >>3500278 Well, bugger me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 21:14:41 2009 No.3500337 In any case I'll remember that. Takeda and Dokuganryuu bonuses are the best ones by far, being able to take both and still get Gekkou means I'm pretty much always going to be doing that!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 21:33:41 2009 No.3500419 Sengoku Rance progress: Last update: Oct 5. Beta testing in progress. (Will probably take a week or two more)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 21:36:41 2009 No.3500423 >>3500419 I bet he's playing aion instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 21:39:41 2009 No.3500433 File: 93 KB, 800x600, ALCG0007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3500419 Not that I care about the last 10% of the game that much but Im rather baffled at how long it's taking to beta test. Is there something I dont' know about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 21:43:41 2009 No.3500450 >>3500433 Kind of.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 21:43:41 2009 No.3500448 >>3500423 Crysis, actually.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 21:53:41 2009 No.3500481 >>3500433 No clue, but I guess it's better if they test it thoroughly. I kept my save right before the Orochi so I wouldn't miss any details... and I plan on playing the Japanese version someday anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 21:54:41 2009 No.3500489 >>3500433 Maybe they're trying to fix some of the other technical issues they've had?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:00:41 2009 No.3500516 >>3500489 >>3500481 >>3500433 Looking for untranslated commands. The script containing the country-commands is huge and convoluted, so some were missed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:02:41 2009 No.3500531 >>3500423 >>3500433 Meanwhile at Yandere Translations.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:03:41 2009 No.3500536 File: 105 KB, 800x600, ALCG0011.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] we'll full patch will be out in due time, and then we'll have to look into someone to translate Rance VI or kichikuoh, maybe even the II remake since it's supposedly so short.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:05:41 2009 No.3500540 Someone can tell me at what level Kentaro can kill that Seiryuu whore? Tried to get 9 atk or get to level 45, now I can't pass through the last 99 HP...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:07:41 2009 No.3500547 >>3500540 You're using the healing/point restoring artifact, right? Anyway, atk doesn't do anything so don't bother raising it. Only level matters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:09:41 2009 No.3500556 >>3500540 read his dialog when the fight starts

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:13:41 2009 No.3500568 >>3500540 here >>3500547 >>3500556 Argh lol... that was dumb... Thanks anyway.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:34:41 2009 No.3500643

>>3500568
Stats don't affect dungeon-style battles anyway, so Attack doesn't make a difference.
However, buffs do work, so if you have Attack Luck you can save Kentarou's Youmeishu for later. Maybe Dungeon Battle Expert works too, I haven't tried it yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:39:41 2009 No.3500656 Well, testing should be done by today now. Horray. Hopefully the final patch will be released thursday so that I can drink delicious alcohol in celebration

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:49:41 2009 No.3500685 >>3500656 >today >one day after the update saying it would be finished in a week Are you part of the translation team or are you just trolling /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:55:41 2009 No.3500707 Quick question for you Rance-doods. Can I earn points in Free For All mode? Or what is the most efficient way to get high scores?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:56:41 2009 No.3500710 File: 34 KB, 407x575, herp derp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3500685 Yes, I am a member of the translation team. Most of us are from /jp/, you know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:58:41 2009 No.3500717 >>3500710 Get out translationdev.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 22:58:41 2009 No.3500720 >>3500707 Ran route is best for points.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 23:00:41 2009 No.3500724 >>3500717 I'm actually the author of every single Rance post on /jp/ in order to create artificial hype for the game. True story.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 23:01:41 2009 No.3500731 we should have a community Rance game, im sure it'll fail miserably though

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 23:03:41 2009 No.3500734 >>3500731 Each person takes five turns and then passes on the save or what have you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 23:06:41 2009 No.3500751 >>3500724 お疲れ, that's a lot of work. Keep it up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 23:07:41 2009 No.3500754 >>3500710 GET OUT YANDERE DEVS

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 23:38:41 2009 No.3500867
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My Orochi team. Rance is 79. Senhime is 63. Everyone else is maxed except for Turban, Shizuka, and Kojika. Uruza being maxed means she is an unstoppable force of nature and eliminates Orochi Girls in one hit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 23:43:41 2009 No.3500898 >>3500867 Nice turncount.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:24:41 2009 No.3501025 >>3500337 In any case I'll remember that. Takeda and Dokuganryuu bonuses are the best ones by far, being able to take both and still get Gekkou means I'm pretty much always going to be doing that! Good luck trying to clear the Shimazu brothers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:29:41 2009 No.3501040 >>3501025 maids and one eye are the strongest.

Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:34:41 2009 No.3501062

Anyone know roughly how long it will take for the 5th gourd to break if one has already:

1) Broken the first
2) Taken over 3 houses (Hara, Ashikaga, Takeda)
2) At turn 10

I'm trying to character clear the Shimazu brothers and if I'm able to delay having to get set on the Ran route to about turn 40 or higher, I should be able to get Mori, Uesegi and Hojo, as well as boosting the important females to love. This depends largely on doing a dungeon or two (Shell and that one in Mori territory) to get Rance's Photo and SenriQ Cups/Kanou Scrolls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:36:41 2009 No.3501072 >>3501040 Yeah, but I'd like to avoid doing the Ran route again so I'm trying to get the 4-way scene this time, which I believe requires character clearing the Mori sisters, which requires taking over Mori rather than selecting it as a bonus.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:37:41 2009 No.3501080 >>3501062 The 5th gourd should automatically break at around turn 90, or until you conquer another house with a gourd.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:37:41 2009 No.3501079 >>3501072 no, you can do it as soon as you acquire at least one piece of their territory.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:37:41 2009 No.3501078 >>3501040 Bull. Takeda is much stronger than the maids.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:37:41 2009 No.3501077 File: 129 KB, 800x800, cirno no u.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3501040 Nau! eye m' !!!

Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:39:41 2009 No.3501085

>>3501072
You can take them as the bonus and still get the 4-way. You need to clear Kiku and Teru and get the first Chinu scene. That means that you need to get Kiku up to the point where she challenges you to conquer Mori before conquering them, and obviously do all of it before Chinu dies.

Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:40:41 2009 No.3501090

>>3501079

Really? If this run fails I'm dropping the additional characters bonus (sorry Gekko and Shizuka) and taking Mori and Takeda. Not sure if I'd bother with the level 2 books this time since most of my generals will be strong enough on their own and Rance needs the normal books first. That way I can pick up the troop regen. items to help alleviate money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:42:41 2009 No.3501093 >>3501085 But if you take Mori as a bonus why would Kiku even challenge you to beat Motonari?

Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:42:41 2009 No.3501094

>>3501080
I don't think that's what he meant. The gourd scenes are actually kind of low on the priority list for start of turn events, so if you take a ton of bonuses and prioritize the gourd countries, you can actually conquer all of them before the fifth gourd breaks. I think around turn 35 is the earliest that the Incident at Honnouji event can kick in, but how long you take to conquer certain countries that have a shitload of start of turn events can affect that, as well as bonuses you take that stop those characters' events from happening at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:43:41 2009 No.3501098 >>3501093 Because New Game+ can make things not make sense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:44:41 2009 No.3501101 >>3501098 Well shit, guess I'll restart this game then. I've been under the impression that starting with Mori prevents you from getting Kiku's character clear. Glad to clear that up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:45:41 2009 No.3501102 >>3501101 The flag it looks at is just conquering Mori. Probably because you can either kill or recruit Motonari depending on whether you break his curse or not.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 00:48:41 2009 No.3501106 THANKS FOR THE HUGE SPOILER

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 6 01:01:41 2009 No.3501135 >>3501106 Why didn't you beat the game yet?

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