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Did I miss something? I don't think Gil revealed his name back there, or announced his Gates of Babylon aloud.

>> No.349111

>>349084
he didn't. believe it or not, shirou figured it out by himself.

>> No.349145
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349145

>>349111
ya I'm a pretty smart guy if you hadn't figured it out already.

>> No.349166

He remembered it from the previous route.

>> No.349170

>>349145

A smart person wouldn't cough up bastard swords. It carries the risk of grievous injury.

>> No.349177

He figured it out because Shinji is a fucking idiot and yelled "Do it Gilgamesh!"

>> No.349181

>>349084

why does she have a green dot on her forehead?

>> No.349189
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349189

>>349181
Aw crap, I've been spotted!

>> No.349234
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349234

By the way, I think Nasu outdid his mollusks with this one. How many times in the story did we see this

"And so, the sword deals the fatal blow---"

NO WAIT IT DIDN'T

>> No.349235

>>349145
Oh yeah?

Why do kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch then?

>> No.349243
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349243

>>349235
Because it has swirls of spiral energy in each bite?

>> No.349248

>>349243
...actually, fuck, you might be onto something.

>> No.349250
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349250

>>349235

Because Sakuya baked them with love.

>> No.349267
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349267

>>349235

Because the technique for their creation was an invention of the glorious Sumerian Empire.

>> No.349275
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349275

Do they taste good, Shiro? I can't tell, everything tastes like blood lately...

>> No.349278
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349278

>>349234
'sup.

>> No.349284

>>349234
i lold heartily

>> No.349479

>>349234
People are killed before they die?

>> No.349514

how many times were we told that lancer's gay bulge ignores cause and just always gets the effect which is "kill" only to watch saber dodge the fucker and archer block it.

>> No.349538

Archer did use an NP whose property was supposed to be the ability to block anything. At that point I guess whoever is dumping more mana wins.

>> No.349533
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349533

>>349514
E-rank Luck.

>> No.349548

>>349514
thrown gae bolg sacrifices ignores-cause-and-just-always-gets-the-effect-which-is-"kill" for range and damage.

>> No.349556

>>349538

in before car made of diamonds

>> No.349563

>>349514
Only if it hits, if it is blocked, then nothing happens. In Saber's case, luck saved her.

Lancer wasn't a lucky Irishmen.

>> No.349565

>>349548
How can there be a higher damage than "kill"

>> No.349572

>>349565
OVERKIL!!!

>> No.349587
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349587

>> No.349598

>>349587
;__;

>> No.349605

>>349565
The effect "this lance will always pierce the heart" is not applied when it is hurled.

>> No.349610

>>349563

I think the entire point was that it was describe as a lance that never misses mere seconds before Saber dodges it.

>> No.349612
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349612

>>349084
When does this stuff happen? I know some things that eventually happen in F/SN - the things that made me want to play it/read it to begin with. I tried playing it and after what felt like hours, I was bored out of my fucking mind. It was just that faggot doing the kind of monologues a 13 year old MIGHT think were deep and going to and from school over and over again.

When does the "meat" of the plot start to kick in?

>> No.349616

>>349610
The description says it never misses unless the target is lucky enough.

>> No.349619

>>349616
The same could be said of all projectile weapons.

>> No.349618

>>349610
JUST LIKE IN DA ANIMES I WATCH

>> No.349624
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349624

welp

>> No.349626

>>349612
OP's picture takes place in UBW (the second route). According to most people, the "meat" of the plot kicks in Heaven's Feel (the third and last route).

>> No.349630

>>349616

then why even bother saying it never misses?

>> No.349635

>>349605
Then why throw it for "more damage"?

Kill is kill. Damage at max, son.

>> No.349638

>>349635
Your good point is wasted on this animu plotline. People say and do weird nonsensical shit because it's written by one man without that much talent.

>> No.349640

>>349619
He didn't use it as a projectile against Saber; he thrust it. The effect of the lance somewhat worked because he thrust her feet; however, the effect made the lance end up near Saber's heart.

>> No.349643

>>349635
Because Rin asked him not to kill Archer?

>> No.349645

I'd find it a lot more playable if it was on the DS. I know there's some half-baked version you can put on the DS but it sounds as if it's riddled with bugs - I don't know if it even works since they people that did it don't mention it in their download list despite the files being stored elsewhere on the site.

>> No.349644

>>349630
When activated, the magic is such that it violates causality to reach the conclusion of the weapon hitting, with reality then retroactively justifying the action. This is related to fate and can be countered by divine levels of luck.

>> No.349653

>>349644
MM-mmm, that's good mumbo-jumbo.

>> No.349646

>>349635

see

>>349624

>> No.349656

>>349635
Well, it's guaranteed killing one target...
Or...
Most probably killing several targets at once.

Why didn't Lancer just thrust it against Archer then?

What
>>349643
said.

>> No.349657

It's got 2 different attacks. It never misses the heart when used normally unless your luck stat is high enough to avoid the curse. When it's thrown it has a totally different property. It sacrifices always hitting the heart but instead does something a bit like Assassin's Tsubame-Gaeshi, in that it scatters numerous spearheads at the same time to strike the enemy. People need to read the info screens more often.

>> No.349663

>>349645

It's actually not.

I played through the whole thing, and it's 90% the same as the PC version.

>> No.349671

>>349663
What's the 10% that's different? Also, how do you get it to work? There's no downloadable file, just some online directories.

>> No.349673

>>349612
Well, Fate isn't really deep. There are good moments here and there, all of them mostly towards the end. The rest is Shiro's life chillin' (during the fucking grail war mind you) and lots of battles. Yes, it's incredibly battle-oriented for a visual novel - judging from your post this probably is not your thing.

>When does the "meat" of the plot start to kick in?

If I know what you mean? Always before the final battle.

>> No.349674

>>349645
I've looked at the scripts used in the Tsukihime DS port and at some of the programming documentation. I'm not certain that the graphical effects of FSN, as simple as they are, are possible at the level of VNDS' current version.

>> No.349688

>>349673
>it's incredibly battle-oriented for a visual novel - judging from your post this probably is not your thing.

Not at all. It seemed to take forever to get to the bit when Lancer attacks Shirou in the school. I knew that happened anyway because of the anime so it didn't really surprise or entertain me. I played on from there (I was already pretty bored by the point) but ran out of steam and gave up a while afterwards. Nothing interesting had happened other than Lancer chasing Shirou for a bit (sure he died but even if I didn't know what happened, I'd have expected him to be resurrected or not actually be dead).

>> No.349695

>>349671

No fancy Graphical effects in battle
No CG room
No Servant Status screen

That's it.

>> No.349708

>>349688
Just to add to this: I'm not some ADHD kid either. I can sit and read all sorts of books for hours, whether they be more action oriented or very mundane like The Outsider by Camus. I completed the 4th Ace Attorney game in about two sittings as well... But, despite how interesting people talking about it can make it sound, I've always found F/SN really boring and hard to read.

>> No.349714

>>349688
All the routes start as boring (Heaven's Feel is faster in this regard, though). Shirou's ideals sound childish at the beginning but, as the story progresses his ideals are explained properly, you get to understand why he developed them, and at the same time, he reaches some conclusion.

Basically, as the creators said, the theme of the game is "conquering oneself".

>> No.349720

>>349708
*shrug*

Maybe you just shouldn't read it then.

I love LotR but I find the books very difficult to get through.

>> No.349724

Fate - I can save everyone
UBW - I can save some people
Heaven's Feel - I can't save anyone

>> No.349731

>>349708
So you're bored because you already know what happens in the Fate route. Congratulations, you now feel the same as about everyone else after the first translation patch. Skip through Fate and try UBW instead.

>> No.349742

>>349724
So Heaven's Feel = despair?

>> No.349768
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349768

>>349724
Wrong

Fate (at the beginning) - I want to save as many people as I can. (By the end) - A hero is only a cleaner.
UBW (at the beginning) - I want to save as many people as I can. (By the end) - Even if at the end I cannot achieve anything, I still want to follow this path.
HF (at the beginning) - I want to save as many people as I can. (After acknowledging Sakura's situation) I cannot sacrifice her, even if she is guilty.

>> No.349831

>>349768
I'm curious, they constantly mentioned how his father said that a superhero had to choose who they were going to save; its impossible to save everyone.

Does he just follow that advice for HF?

>> No.349914

>>349831
He ends up acknowledging that much by the end of each route.

In HF, he cannot bring himself to kill Sakura, and drops his ideal to become a hero of justice.

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