/tmg/ - Type-Moon General

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A place for discussion of the works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON. Please advise in the thread if any of the links below need to be updated.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (English)
https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime PLUS-DISC
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3301601
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ

>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2725572
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate/Zero
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5943-Lord-El-Melloi-II-Case-Files
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/fQFiyY4I#UcZr7N0u3_35994pXKP8qw
Heaven's Feel Manga
https://lovehug.net/730/

>Mahou Tsukai no Yoru
VN: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English patch: https://hollow-moon.github.io/
French patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french
Italian patch: https://riffourtranslations.wordpress.com/category/mahoutsukai-no-yoru/

>Angel Voice
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip/file
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Fate/EXTRA
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-perfect-patch-hack/
>Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fate/strange Fake
https://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
>Fate/type Redline
https://mangadex.org/title/44059/fate-type-redline
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/lli17cum6jzg7/Marmalade
>Tsuki no Sango
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Tsuki no Sango Manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1

>Beast's Lair
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Fate/complete material II Character material
https://pastebin.com/Zjy1Sj6d
>Fate Franchise Lossless Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>Type-Moon Comic Ace
https://web-ace.jp/tmca/
>TMdict Glossary
https://www.tmdict.com/
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
https://www.tsukikan.com/
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
>TYPE-MOON 10th Anniversary Phantasm
http://heavens-feel.com/type-moon_10_anniversary_phantasm_translation.html

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first for caster

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I bet Neko Akiha does it like a weasel, she's cursed I tell ya!

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>>34715562
don't talk about my wife like that!

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Consider the following:

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>>34715797
I dont get it.

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>>34715797
I would betray if it meant this SEX GODDESS would end up living in my house.

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>>34715839
>I would betray
You are a bad person.

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>>34715449
God shes so cute.

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>>34715835

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She’s gonna do it

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>>34715949
NO PLEASE DON'T SAY IT

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>>34715949
DON'T SAY THE NEKO WORD

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Would anyone be interested if I scanned these?

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>>34716388
Yes please.

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>>34716388
>1996
Anon how the fuck do you have this?

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>>34716388
what is this? Takeuchi's first manga?

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>>34716682
He doesn't.

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>>34716761
>all those reverse image search results
I should have known.

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>>34715651
I want to pet your wife.

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>>34716889
Leave my wife alone! Shaa!

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>>34716721
The original 1996 Mahoyo and Nasu and Takeuchi's 1993 TRPG Tetsu no Monshou.

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>Tsuki TL is ass compared to how it comes across in moonspeak
>Official TL never ever/would absolutely be a monkeypaw
>Any new fan translation would just divide people
Why must life be nothing but sorrow

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>>34717252
>Why must life be nothing but sorrow
only for eops

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>>34717252
it could be worse, it could be full of memes like the latest Muv Luv game TL.

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>>34717317
w-what happened?
It's been years since I read ML

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welp, forgot about making the next thread.
Also no talking about TLs, it is annoying.

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>>34717414
don't want to get too into it but fans of Muv Luv have been complaining about the quality of the TL for the new game. And it being windows 10 only was a bad idea.

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>>34717271
It takes a really warped worldview to say this. It would only mean good things if we got a high quality, faithful translation.

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>>34715449
So why Rule Breaker didn't work in this situation?

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>>34718634
because nasu never explained how kuzuki died, so no wonder they changed it in the movie

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>>34718634
Maybe learning english would help you

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>>34718634
Because the manga writers didnt want it to?

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>>34718729
I'm not sure that's a good excuse. When something is ambiguous at least you can just assume it makes sense, sticking dumb shit in there is worse than leaving shit out.

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>>34719167
where was i making an excuse for this hack nasu?

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>>34719188
Leaving something ambiguous is fine (some of the time), adding dumb shit in when there is ambiguity is not. "But its ambiguous" isnt an inherently bad thing.

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>>34719208
you can't read? or just forgot to take your meds?

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Is this still the peak of the Nasuverse? Or do you guys think it's been surpassed?

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>>34719462
I liked the ending of Fate, but that's good too

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>>34717217
What is shiki expression supposed to convey here ?

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>>34719602
It's the kind of expression you would have when looking at a crippled kitten.

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>>34719602
shiki just doesn't understand that having a big tiddy sister and indulging in sex with her would be just too much winning. should have appreciated a bit more what he already has

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>>34718729
He died from rough sex with Caster.

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>>34722600
fucking legend

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I wonder if Nisio Isin read F/SN/Tsukihime. Araragi's "save everyone" mentality, vampires, contracts, there are a few parallels.

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>>34715921
Holy fuck I never actually looked at the squall of faggotry under this image.

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4195868

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>>34723645
Dear god...

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>>34723645
well, they are not wrong. doujinshi works are legal exactly because they increase popularity of the official titles. it's just took them several pages of text to understand that

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>>34723645
The artist sounds like a faggot, not gonna lie. He's just trolling on purpose.

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>>34723627
Basically every otaku writer has read Fate at some point. Not sure about Tsukihime.

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>>34723627
i was watching hellsing ultimate recently, and some things felt like tsukihime for some reason, especially alucard vs anderson thing

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>>34724172
I get what you mean.

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>>34724328
also walter uses his strings pretty much in the similar way shiki uses his eyes, integra sort of reminds akiha, and seras is neco-arc

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>>34724475
And alucards whole level zero release/stored enemies thing is kinda like NRVNSQR

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>>34715449
casual here, just came to say the OP pic is great and I saved it, cheers

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>>34724172
Hirano is a gigaotaku so it wouldn't really be surprising.

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>>34724513
That artist in general does good stuff, some of it NSFW but all of it very wholesome.

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>>34724559

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>>34724067
Tsukihime too. It was fucking huge when it came out.

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>>34723645
The artist is just shitposting, some retards started taking it seriously when he first posted it on twitter too.

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>>34723627
They (were) both Koudansha writers who've written for the same literary magazine before. Apparently they did mingle for some time at least. They've definitely read each other before. Supposedly there's an interview in some issue of Faust where Nisio says he's influenced by Nasu, which would be referring to Tsukihime or maybe KnK.
When the Zaregoto series came out there was a big overlap in Nisioisin and Nasu fans and the two of them were seen as being at the forefront of kind of underground subculture media.

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>>34719462
>ywn read heaven's feel for the first time ever again
Feels terrible.
The fact that they butchered the last fight in the movie just makes it feel worse.

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>>34724493
Didn’t that chapter come out before Tsukihime released? Nasu might’ve been the one influenced by it

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>>34725780
I do not know, all I know is they look similar.

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>>34725780
Only two volumes of hellsing were out before Tsukihime so the chances of that seems pretty slim. I forgot when exactly they revealed the "Alucard has all his enemies in him" thing, but I'm pretty sure that was later in the story.

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>>34725847
Its like during the london stuff I think, so very end

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>>34725847
My bad, I got confused and thought anon was talking about the fight with Valentine in Volume 2

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>>34725960
Thats not what I meant, but now that you mention it that is also like neros thing, so It might have inspired it.

Although maybe they just discussed some ideas together or something, since I doubt Nasu would have time to rewrite or do big changes to the VN on a short notice (I dont know the exact timeframe for the releases)

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>>34725613
Can you please write out all the aspects that make you like Heaven’s Feel? I didn’t find it that interesting but I’d like to know what others see in it.

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>>34726125
Femme Fatale

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>>34726125
Not that anon but is it so hard to see? The entire grail war gets totally subverted, tons of really good twists, Kotomine and Illya play big roles, godly action scenes, Shirou suffers more in HF than in any other route, Sakura suffering, etc.

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sparkly sparkly

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>>34726125
Don't feel like writing an essay but HF is great since it challenges the core aspects of the previous routes. It's basically a subversion of the Fate route, which was kinda stereotypical and really straighforward, from almost every point of view. Also we get to see more of Kirei and Illya, two of the most interestic characters in the series.

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>>34726147
>>34726670
There are definitely some parts of HF that are interesting. Shirou abandoning his ideals for just one person is something I didn’t expect to see. Kirei’s backstory is very cool. I didn’t like the twist that Illya is actually older than Shirou, felt like a leftover from her route that didn’t need to exist anymore. I think the end completes Shirou’s arc across the routes from sidekick to hero to martyr.
I think my main problem is that while HF carries itself like the grand finale, I never buy it. UBW felt like a great foil to Fate, I loved seeing how much of a royal ass Archer could be. That’s not to say UBW is perfect (I think the Rin romance felt undercooked compared to Saber), but in most aspects I consider it a direct improvement over Fate. I won’t say I was never surprised by HF, but no twist got a reaction from me like the UBW twists.

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>>34719462
talking about parallels, this one too, including snake's deteriorating health. given the fact that kojima is even a bigger hack than nasu, i wouldn't be surprised if that's what inspired him

on the other hand, snake vs liquid fight on top of rex is from 1998, so i don't fucking know. maybe they refer each other or something

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>>34727103
>UBW felt like a great foil to Fate
UBW is just "Fate but we forgot the thematic conclusion to the route"

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>>34727282
At least have your bait make sense.

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>>34727308
>bait

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>>34727103
>I think my main problem is that while HF carries itself like the grand finale, I never buy it.
Why not? HF has the grand reveal of nearly everything. You don't even know the true purpose of the key part of the setting (the grail war) until that route.

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For me UBW felt like the least memorable of the routes, I honestly can't think of a reason why though, I just found Fate and HF more interesting.

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>>34727103
>but no twist got a reaction from me like the UBW twists
desu the only good plot twist in Fate is Shirou being the redman so it's no surprising.
It's not about the twists and turns, it's about how the narrative evolves.

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>it's another episode of "my chapter of Fate/stay night is cooler than your chapter of Fate/stay night"

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>>34727453
Yes.

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>>34727453
Yes.

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>>34727453
yes, also my favorite servant > your favorite servant

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The only good 'route' in fate is the hanafuda one with Illiya and Taiga.

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>>34727496
Hardmode is winning as Shinji while leaving NPs on.

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>>34727494
>my favorite servant > your favorite servant
Yes.

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I can't wait for the Shinji route in the Fate remake

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>>34727453
Yes.

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>>34727343
Maybe it’s just me, and there were no more boxes for this game to check for me. I thought Fate had the best romance, UBW was the best overall package, and HF kinda got shafted since everything I needed FSN to do was already done.
>>34727453
>it’s another episode of strawmanning a discussion to try to start a pointless argument

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Fate is the story of Saber.
UBW is the story of Shirou.
HF is the story of people you never gave a shit about when reading the previous two routes.

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>>34727665
But Kotomine is my favorite character.

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Fate is the story of Shirou.
UBW is the story of Shirou.
HF is the story of Shirou.

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>>34727665
But I don't remember you being in HF at all.

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>>34727665
>UBW is the story of Shirou.
UBW is the story of Archer, and how hes a fucking terrible person

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>>34727710
Shirou and Archer are the same guy, technically.

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>>34727768
In the same way that Saber and Saber(Lancer) are the same person.

Alternate future versions of people are nothing but a different person with the same name.

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>>34727798
Wut

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>>34727798
You're not viewing things four dimensionally. It's like two branches of the same tree.

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>>34727798
Exactly. So Shirou has to prove that he's not Archer. This makes UBW the story of Shirou just as much as it's Archer's story.

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>>34727639
If the game was hypothetically only Fate and UBW, it would definitely feel very incomplete.

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>>34727890
imagine there's no worms
it's easy if you try

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>>34727103
How can the fist fight between Shirou and Kirei not be seen as the grand finale? The truth of the war is revealed and HF finally has them all going to destroy the corrupted miracle that all of the magi created. How is Shirou finally finding his original reason to live besides the ideal that was given to him? What about Illya finally finding her own freedom that sets her apart from Justeaze and using her own will to save the one that she loves? Kirei finally admitting that he felt envy towards Shirou for finding salvation unlike he was able to after looking for it all of his life. He finally find some amusement in dying and seeing Shirou off as the overseer should with a smile on his face. Everything about the finale calls back to all of the previous routes. HF is the culmination of all of the previous routes and finally finishing off each of the human charcter’s arcs in the finale with Rin being able to finally save Sakura after her magus side stopping her from acting like her human self. Sakura is saved by Shirou and Rin and is free from the chains that bound her with Rule Breaker. HF is a masterpiece because it both deconstructs and reconstructs Shirou from losing his memory of his father’s ideal to being reconstructed as he declares his original ideal of wanting to save the ones he loves. It shatters all of your expectations due to the shadow killing off most of the servants early on and even losing Saber early on. It’s perfection.

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>>34728041
It ain't fate without penis worms.

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asking the real questions

original, ever after, or shingetsutan?

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>>34728123
I like ever after the best but some people really insist on the original.

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>>34728123
Ever After has the best versions of the songs but the instruments sound like shitty midi patches. It doesn’t matter anyway since I made my own soundtrack for the game and just listen to that when I play.

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>>34727878
>So Shirou has to prove that he's not Archer.
But we know hes not archor, hes not a bitch-made nigger.

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>>34728056
Thanks for taking the question seriously, now I kinda wanna run through HF quickly again just to see if it was a case of it not clicking the first time.

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>>34728056
It only took 100 post, but someone finally posted something smart

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I remember finding some in depth numerical breakdown corresponding to stats on the wiki (ranging from human to like servant, a bigger scale than just the numerical servant ones), but I cant for the life of me find it. Does anyone know where I should search?

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How can you guys not like Archer?

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>>34728335
Because hes a terrible person diametrically opposed to shirou, someone I really like and who is a great person.

Hes basically the main character if you removed everything likable, noble and beautiful about him and made him a backstabbing cock with plot armor.

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>>34728335
I like Archer. He’s involved with some of my favorite character interactions in the whole game. I love the moment at the end of Archer vs Lancer where the latter can only ask “Who are you?” Then he goes inside to presumably save the day, only to flip the entire plot on its head and become something of the true antagonist. The Archer vs. Shirou fight is pretty good, if only because you really get a feel for how much Archer hates himself. Keep in mind I’m not usually a fan of lightshow fights in anime.

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>>34728372
Drown in your ideals and die

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>>34728438
Suffer for eternity you whiny wannabe faust.

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>>34728438

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>>34728257
No problem. It’s best to think of the routes as supporting pillars to keep supporting the next routes questions and charcter development going until HF finally finished all of the charcter’s arcs. While Sakura isn’t my favorite heroine it’s also important to understand where she’d coming from and the distinction between the Dark Shadow killing people with its own will and Sakura never wanting to kill anyone but being influenced by Angra. She also has fantastic scenes like the rain scene and the knife scene which are both underrated since the worm jokes have ruined her charcter for some people. She’s not the girl that I love but it’s best to appreciate her great scenes and at least understand her situation. It’s also neat to think of HF as both a deconstruction of Fate in general and a reconstruction as the stories dark twists are built back up to a happy ending for our charcters. It takes time to appreciate how well written HF is and seeing all of the subtext that Nasu left for players to pick up on. Remembering Fate and UBW and comparing it to HF and seeing how HF uses those routes to better enhance the story makes HF my favorite. The other routes are great too, but the way HF was constructed is brilliant.

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i've decided to rip original tsukihime ost straight from japanese cd because bitrate of the files that come with the english patched game is atrocious. if anyone needs, it's here

https://mega.nz/file/oYBkQJoD#Jrz06uQnJl6kEfKEdeo-Al0mObBOOdQsM8s6Ha5zvHA

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>>34728123
Ever after is the arranged ost that was released on a cd right? Do some people play the game with it?
I'd have to go with tsukibako though. I don't like the twangy sounds in the original ost.

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>>34728372
Shirou always had a bit of Archer in him. He wasn't some noble prince, he was a disgruntled mechanic who seemed to fail at everything other than fixing air conditioners and feeding lazy housemates. The only job he could get was the one that left him with a cracked shoulder and an arm doused in acid.
Needless to say, he wasn't the most cheerful bloke in town.

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>>34728841
But shirou wasnt disgruntled, and from what weve seen he was pretty good at whatever he tried. He was just kinda aimless, or rather he was content to do menial handiwork and fix air conditioners, he got a job he didnt need because he just liked to feel like he was being useful.

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>>34728372
It's interesting to see someone who loves Shirou and hates Archer for a change. He appears to double back on his pessimism at the end of UBW and in HF (in the adaptation at least) so most readers come away with a sterling impression -- especially if they liked Shirou.

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>>34728902
Oh, he absolutely was. He barely ever cracked a smile, and at night, all he was thinking about was that, as far as mages go, he's kinda shit, and that he might've cocked up his dream of becoming a superhero already. He wasn't just aimless, he knew that he was aimless.

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>>34728965
>Oh, he absolutely was.
Not really.

Shirou knew what he was deep down, a broken, aimless person, but he was fine with that. He understood his condition and learned to deal with it. He lacked the drive to strive for seigi no mikata, thats about it.

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Shirou is literally me

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>>34729108
You arent nearly chad enough to be Shirou.

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>>34729124
Shiki is far more chad than Shirou

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>>34729160
Shiki is a little cuckboy.

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>>34729108
I could always relate to Zouken the most.

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>>34729084
That's what I'm saying. He knew he was fucked, so all he did was coping by pretending to be useful. What else could he do, fix the heater in a particularly frustrated manner? The only time he acted happily was when his close ones, like Sakura, were happy. He later got a good look in the mirror when Saber acted in the exact same way, smiling only when he did, and he definitely didn't like what he saw.
Ever since FSN, Fate media tends to portray Shirou in an overtly positive manner, and that bothers me sometimes. No, Shirou was not a smiling retard, nor was he some paladin. He was a broken fucking guy who didn't know what to do with his bloody life, and he easily could've ended up like Archer, that's the whole point.
>>34729124
Shirou's not a Chad, he's the nice guy. Sure, he can throw a punch, but you'd have to be Shinji to make him beat you up, and he's about as sexually proactive as a dead nun.

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>>34729185
immortality sounds like a bitch

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>>34729261
I really love that design, it's one of Takeuchi's best. Shame about the character though.

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>>34729238
not when you're a cute anime girl

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>>34729221
>Shirou's not a Chad
Shirou will, knowing full well the consequences, decide to get involved in a servant fight as a regular dude purely because he has an objection to whats happening.

He does what he wants, when he wants, and doesent let anything stop him from doing so.

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>>34729353
That's not because he's a Chad, that's because he's a dimwit.

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>>34729221
>he easily could've ended up like Archer
Yes, if he failed and became a little bitch. But he doesent do that, not in Fate.

Shirou could have ended up many things, there's probably a chain of events where he ends up a soulless functionary living aimlessly in society like Kuzuki, gets some meaningless job and lives out his days fixing heaters, bikes and washing mashines till he dies of old age. What people CAN be is nearly infinite, what matters is what they become, and shirou doesn't become a little bitch in any of the routes.

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>>34729361
Shirou knows exact what hes doing, he just doesent care.

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>>34729383
I'm not saying that he does become Archer, I'm just saying that you're wrong if you're thinking that he doesn't have a bit of a little bitch in him. He's just a normal guy is all, not a saint or anything.
>>34729398
He cares when you harm Saber. He cares so much he pulls Caliburn out of his ass in sheer anger.

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>>34729424
>He cares when you harm Saber
He doesent however, care that berzerker can turn him into a pancake or that saber is a magical super-ghost.

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>>34729424
The guy gets into avalon, there is no bitch in the emiya shirou of the end of Fate.

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>>34729471
I'm pretty sure he doesn't go there right away. If I recall correctly, Seibah had to wait a few lifetimes, so Shirou didn't get it right on the first try.
Still, you're right that when he gets there, he deserves to be with Artoria. I also like the ambiguity behind it. Shirou lived the best life you, the player, could imagine for him, and that's what got him to Avalon, which is better than a basic list of feats Nasu could've come up with. To me, it makes the Last Episode feel more personal.

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>>34729546
>I'm pretty sure he doesn't go there right away
No, it takes him doing what he should by all rights know is impossible for an indefinite amount of time. Infinite trying + infinite waiting and all that.

Someone with bitch in them would give up, but not shirou.

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>>34729185
You have soul AIDS?

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>>34729587
Well, that's the lesson you take away from Fate, innit. If you love Saber, you should lift your bottom up from that chair, start doing something decent for yourself and others and don't stop. And perhaps one day, you will get to Avalon and meet her.
Maybe sounds a bit childish, but it's as good of a life philosophy as any.

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>>34729221
I miss when he used to be more colder towards other people, he was kinda of a dick pretty early on in fate route but people glossed over that for some reason

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>>34729653
I think it's a bit more than that, but yea, adherence to principles and ideals makes the impossible possible. That's the message of Fate, literally crystallized in Avalon vs Ea.

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>>34729274
What didn’t you like about her? The short screen time that she has is a reasonable complaint but I didn’t have much trouble with her charcter besides her love for Angra being a little out of nowhere. Angra’s love for her makes sense since she represents the flower that he loves the most.

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>>34729274
>Shame about the character though.
what a faggot

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>>34730371
Angra love runs in the family.

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>>34728173
>It doesn’t matter anyway since I made my own soundtrack for the game and just listen to that when I play
???

[Anonymous No.]

Hisui's cooking!

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>>34732770
Practically inedible!

[Anonymous No.]

...what the hell is this?

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>>34724493
>NRVNSQR
Reminds me of Majuu Sensen by Ishikawa Ken. It's about a dude who got experimented by his mad scientist dad so he got the power to grow different kinds of beast parts out of him.

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>>34732912
An abomination that must be killed on sight

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>>34732770
secret recipe on psychedelic drugs!

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>>34719462
SLH is better, and plenty of stuff elsewhere.

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>>34732770
I like plums but who the fuck would actually eat a plum sandwich

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>>34729653
I like Saber but I can't say I love her, in fact I've never really felt love for a fictional character. Saber in particular I don't think I could ever love, the main reason being that she already has Shirou as a partner, I like Shirou and I want him to be happy with Saber, that cannot happen if I were to get romantically involved with Saber.

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>>34734561
I had no problem self-inserting as Shirou, personally, so Seibah was always my number 1 waifu. But to each their own.

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>>34734561
bro this is cuckold mentality, shirou is not your best friend to put him before pussy

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>>34734680
Yeah I never really self-insert in stories, with Shirou it would be particularly hard too since he has a much, much different worldview than me. In games where you make your own character I have usually end up ignoring all romance options too.

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>tfw

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>>34728513
Based anon. Now I want to rewatch the movies and maybe go through vn HF again.

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>>34731831
You can swap track01.ogg and so on with anything you want in the folder.

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>>34735007
>no edit with young Kirei behind

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>>34737525
brb swapping every track with sabaton

THROUGH THE GATES OF HELL

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>>34734849
>play renai game
>protag acts absolutely nothing like me
Many such cases. Self-inserting during H works for me of course, but in general it's not really something I can do. I mostly just play that kind of stuff for the girls.

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>>34737835
Nothing compares with playing with the greatest hits from the first 2 Tony Hawk games

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>>34739392

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Did someone watch the first Camelot movie?
Sounds like a piece of shit but maybe I'll give it a watch.

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>>34735422
Thanks for ruining Arc, Hackeuchi.

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>>34739972
i honestly don't know any good medieval/knight movie except maybe for kingdom of heaven, put aside anything arthurian

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>>34739972
It's shit. They had no clue how to adapt the story properly, obviously were short on time, and covid delivered the finishing blow.
>>34740367
Braveheart comes to mind.

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>>34740367
Excalibur is really good
>put aside anything arthurian
Yeah I don't know, Kingdom of Heaven was good but I'm sure there must be other good ones out there

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i fucking love this bitch

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>>34740367
Not knights but the historical movie "Attila" with Gerard Butler is really good. That role led to him later on playing King Leonidas and the over 9000 image macros that followed the release of 300.

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>>34739972
When I was a kid there was a movie Called Excaliber that was always on late night TV.

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>>34742464
>Снимок экрана

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>>34740367
I have moderate level of hope for this
https://youtu.be/sS6ksY8xWCY

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Well, I finished Tsukihime for the second time, the first being about a decade ago.

I think the overarching storing is melancholy and sad, no matter what. All of the main characters have sad backstories. Even most of the main endings aren't completely "good".
...but you know, for being a story about vampires, death, and killing, there sure is a lot of non-violent conflict.

In terms of routes and best grills, I think I like Arcueid the best. Hisui is a close second. It's wrapped itself up nicely I suppose, but I can't help but feel a little melancholy about all the... unhappiness. Ah well.

Anyway, I tried stumbling my way through Kagetsu Tohya once upon a time but found it to be too cumbersome. I'm considering trying it again. Are there any story elements it adds to Tsukihime or is it not worth the time?

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>>34728123
Original, no question.

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>>34744260
I don't know about Kagetsu, but you just reminded me how much I wish there was a Satsuki route.

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>>34744231
>A24

it's gonna be military grade shit my man

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>>34744260
>Are there any story elements it adds to Tsukihime or is it not worth the time?
If you played FHA, it's the exact same thing. It doesn't add anything too substantial, other than Len, but it's really damn good if you want to unwind and just chill with all your favorite characters.

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>>34744353
I think I'll pass then. Even with a guide it was just way too repetitive.

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>>34744408
It's not repetitive at all, I think. Sure, you will be clicking around a lot, but it's not like you'll have to re-read what you've already read.
But it's a fan disc. You said that Tsukihime was too melancholic, and that's exactly why KT exists. Oh, and there's also PLUS-DISC, let's not forget about that.

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>>34744260
>Are there any story elements it adds to Tsukihime or is it not worth the time?
Kagetsu goes into detail on the background of the nanaya clan and how they where wiped out, The origins of the true ancestors and some other interesting lore bits and side stories. It isn't necessary per say but is still a good read for anyone that liked tsukihime characters and wants to see more from them.

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>>34728123
I played Arc's route with the ever after soundtrack, then switched to the original in the next route and never went back. The original's tracks are superior instrumentally but lack the atmosphere of the original tracks.

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>>34744353
I’m playing FHA right now, and I can only think of how I wish KT had this level of care and dedication. Not to say KT was bad, but it definitely felt like an afterthought. FHA feels more like a real sequel, even if the plot so far is smaller in scale. This might be because in KT you’re usually interacting with one character at a time, while FHA usually has 3 or more characters per scene.

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>>34744513
It's almost as if FHA was made years later, with like ten times the budget.
KT was released before FSN or Melty Blood were even out, it was TM's second-ever project. Sure, it doesn't have any fancy minigames or menus like HA, but it does what it can with what it has. It was also Koyama's debut in TM.
It had a ton of care put into it, and I would even consider it one of the most complex VNs ever, with how many things you can discover and even completely miss.

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>>34744468
>>34744438
Well then I guess I will give it another shot. I can always quit if I decide I don't like it.

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>>34744513
There would be no FHA if there was no KT.
KT is underrated in general.

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>>34744231
This looks pretty good. Gawain and the Green Knight is a good story.

[Anonymous No.]

How would you feel if tsuki r was 45 hours of tsuki no sango levels of kino?

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>>34744513
yeah, while I appreciate how unique and interesting KT is the structure is done much better in F/HA and is better written in general. KT's tone is strange with it going to anime cliches and scenarios that I'm not a fan of. It still has some good character scenes and moments, but they're sadly short and rare for me. It's still worth checking out and the freedom of choices and new discoveries you make are great. I honestly wish KT got a sequel since you could make it a much better game in the modern day, but doubt that'll happen. The CG's are also quite impressive compared to Tsukihime.

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>>34745143
My sentiments almost exactly. If anything, I think Kagetsu Tohya is the one that deserves a remake, since for all its faults, I think Tsukihime is great.

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>>34745143
meant to say remake not sequel

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>>34744989
Is tsuki no sango actually good?

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>>34743963

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granny sweater

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>>34744566
KT's choice system is insane. I haven't come across anything nearly that involved but maybe I just haven't played enough old games from that era.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34744566
Good point. Again, I have no disdain towards KT. There are several parts of it I love, and the air of mystery throughout the plot is really compelling. Drinking Dreaming Moon is a pretty great epilogue, too.

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https://twitter.com/FGOAP_ep6/status/1393400750890422272

Proper trailer for Camelot part 2. Going by the trailer and audience reactions, the action scenes are excellent. It's got some of the animators who worked on ep 22 of Apocrypha.

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>>34749136
*crickets*

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>>34744231
I still find it weird that they chose an indian actor to portray Gawain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34749136
Well, it sounds good overall. Worth a watch, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

Touko is so cute and sexy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>34749136
It’s a shame the first movie was so bad that it killed a lot of the hype that I’d have for these movies. It’s one of the best FGO stories that had a poor director/Studio at the helm for the first movie. I’ll check this one out once I can watch it.

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>>34750460
What killed the hype for ufotable's FSN adaption?

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>>34750476
Poor directing for UBW is the usuals critique. It’s still had a decent reception and most people seemed to like it. The HF movies were just a bad idea in general since the story you have to tell needs more time. General reception seems to be good so people liked it and it made people like Sakura more and give tons of fan art. They’re nothing like the poor reception the first Fgo movie got.

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>>34749873
I want to turn Touko into my Realdoll!

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>>34750548
>The HF movies were just a bad idea in general since the story you have to tell needs more time
What are you talking about anon, the HF movies were great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34750476
>killed the hype
Nothing. It's still popular and well received among anime onlies aka most fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34750824
They're entertaining, but they're a bad adaptation of the original route.

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>>34750824
They’re fine for anime-only audiences but it skipped too many scenes for me to truly enjoy it. They’re good movies, but they don’t reach the same heights the VN does. It’s understandable since it should’ve been an anime series as the movies would have to cut scenes to have a 2 hour run time at least.

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>>34751539
>>34751707
being a contrarian faggot doesn't make you an interesting person

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>>34751821
It's not a contrarian opinion. On one's calling the movies shit, they're just very imperfect as adaptations of the original material. A ton of scenes is gone, Illya and Shirou didn't have any context for their last moments, the battle with Berserker felt less like a desperate last stand and more like Bleach's "fuck you I have a secret superpower" cop-out, etc.

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>>34751914
I guess you're allowed to have an opinion anon, even if it's wrong. Taking out things was inevitable for a six-hour adaptation, and what they did with it left for a tighter experience.

The only thing I didn't like was the Kirei-Shirou fight at the end.

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>>34751821
Well that was uncalled for. I just said the movies are good for what they are. Most people also complained that the third movie had important events happen that they didn’t understand so VN fans aren’t the only ones complaining.

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>>34751821
Nice opinion retard

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>>34751982
The fact that it was inevitable doesn't make it better. For instance, normies didn't even understand if Shirou survived or not in the end, that's a mistake on Ufotable's part.

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>>34752192
True, they should have done a little more to explain the Touko puppet. You have to have watched KnK to get it as an anime-only now.

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>>34751707
It's ironically the other way round, from what I've seen. Anime only got confused precisely because a lot got skipped. Like, I've seen a lot asking about how/why Shirou's body is normal again or what was the point of Illya at the end.

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>>34752388
Yeah I said in a previous post that the third movie skipped explaining or had trouble explaining those important details.

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>>34751539
>they're a bad adaptation of the original route

Why are Fate fans never happy?

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>>34751914
>they're just very imperfect as adaptations

HF movies are peak anime production right now, not even xapa does better job with eva, this is the best we will ever see, and let's be real, nothing will ever satisfy /tmg/ autists to agree that something is 'perfect'. what's perfect adaption anyway? deen's fate? or shingetsutan? pfff

>>34751992
>the third movie had important events happen that they didn’t understand

just because the VN consists of constant internal monologues, info dumps, and spoon-feeding, while the movies tried to be a bit more subtle, therefore some ADHD ridden konosuba addicted /a/tards had problems following the story, it doesn't make movies 'bad adaptations'

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>>34752842
>what's perfect adaption anyway?
Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings, despite being an "impossible" adaptation, was damn amazing.

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>>34752388
>Like, I've seen a lot asking about how/why Shirou's body is normal again or what was the point of Illya at the end

i seen a lot of posts on /tmg/ too asking whether drawings on ciel's body are tattoos or paint. so what? bad writing or you guys just can't read? i think it's the latter

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>>34752865
i don't think many lotr fans will agree with you

[Anonymous No.]

>>34752992
He's a filthy secondary, of course they wouldn't.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it best to read or watch KnK first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34752865
Why are Nasu's works considered impossible adaptions?

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>>34751992
I can understand anime onlies complaining, but why the fuck would vn fans complain?
An good adaptation should add to the original medium, not replace it.
The movie made the story better by giving those who already had tho story some amazing visuals and music to go with it.
Plus the anime only scenes were nice too.
Other than the last fight (which didn't really add anything to the scene from the vn) all 3 movies were fantastic for those who actually liked the vn.

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>>34752842
>konosuba
What's wrong with comedy anime?
Atleast blame the shounen anime that have monologues and reactions from the entire cast for every second of a fight scene.
This is why you have retards saying things like "the fights in Zero were better than the ones in UBW".

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>>34753038
If you can't read japanese then don't bother reading at all (full readable translation doesn't exist), if you can then order doesn't really matter.

[Anonymous No.]

New trailer for the FGO Solomon movie is up. While I hate Ritsuka, I have to admit that his new mystic code is rad. Nasu will also be the script writer for the movie which is different from Babylonia from what I remember. Trailer: https://youtu.be/1MJ7ZVeW4UE

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>>34753239
>An good adaptation should add to the original medium, not replace it.
Except it does. Now newfags won't bother reading the novel (even more so than before) because everyone's telling them how good the movies are, even though the movies are not that fucking good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34753574
Good thing I don't keep crying about newfags like you then.
Why the fuck do you care how others consume their medium. Just don't interact with them. That's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34753475
The mystic code looks really familiar. I feel like it's some famous costume from some sci fi movie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34753301
>what about shounens

both are trash together with their fags

[Anonymous No.]

>>34753574
why should i care about people i never met whether they read TM visual novels or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34753574
You're fucking retarded. Someone who watched the movies and liked them might want to see more and decide to read the novels, especially if encouraged. Movies bring people into the franchise, and screeching like yours turn them away.

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>>34753675
Because they will shit up TM threads with their garbage argumentation, and dealing with them constantly is fucking tiring.
Thank fuck no one adapted Tsukihime, at least it can be discussed without secondaries coming in and telling you how it's actually all garbage, you should only watch Urobuchi's prequel and movies that completely ignore Hisui as a character (had to be cut for time, but it's okay, no one cares about her anyway).

[Anonymous No.]

This 'tsukihime' shit was garbage. The girls are all bitches and look like men. The nun girl is annoying and likes spaghetti.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34753475
*tumbleweed*

[Anonymous No.]

Getting awfully tired of newfags not knowing what /tmg/ posters are like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34752865
>Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings, despite being an "impossible" adaptation, was damn amazing.
I'm going to press x to doubt since I've only read the books.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34754103
Very few things are as uncanny as anime girls with manfaces.

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>>34753239
>The movie made the story better by giving those who already had tho story some amazing visuals and music to go with it.
The music is way better in the VN though. Hell, I'm not even sure I'd give the visuals much credit because HF has a ton of amazing CGs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34753711
Don’t know but it reminds me of Isaac Clarke’s suit from dead space with this picture

[Anonymous No.]

>>34752317
Why is there a Weiss clone in TM?

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>>34752842
>puke inducing colors
>worse lighting than UBW
>weak character animation
>uninspired storyboards
>peak anime production
>the best we will ever see
Dude what the hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34756011
name something better then

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>>34753475
Who the fuck thought animating Solomon was a good idea?
I can understand Camelot and Babylonia, but this is just "the real Fate/Grand Order™ was the friends we made along the way..."
Also I guess the new mystic code will explain how (You) somehow is able to solo a full-power Beast twice in a row.

[Anonymous No.]

Now that the dust has settled I think it's clear that Fate/Zero was the peak of Fate animes.
What did you thinki about it?

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>>34756011
You forgot all the blinding flashy glowy effects during every single fight scene (much worse than usual).
>>34756744
KnK easily beats it and that was 15 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34757056
Peak Fate anime was Ufotable's VN openings.

[Anonymous No.]

Calling out Touko's name while having sex with Aoko!

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>>34757179
I really has high expectations for a HF anime because of them, they are the reason I'm so disappointed now...

[Anonymous No.]

>>34757090
>HF movies are peak anime production right now
>that was 15 years ago

you ok?

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>>34757090
KnK is nowhere as well-animated (except for Tetsuya Takeuchi's scenes in KnK 5 which are still amazing), and the compositing is less refined as that was the start of Ufotable figuring out their digital-heavy approach to photography.

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>>34756011
I’m not the biggest fan of the HF movies but they look fantastic. The backgrounds are especially amazing. You can have issues with some scenes animation wise and story choice but the movies look great in general. KnK has a better atmosphere and tone, but the HF movies are an improvement.

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>>34757848
Favorite scenes:

HF I Caster's 2 seconds.

HF II Gil sitting in the Church listening to Kirei ramble.

HF III Kirei throwing Shirou through the window at Illya

[Anonymous No.]

I love Type-Moon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>34757891
Man this place is deader than usual. Anyway fav scenes:

HF1: mapo tofu

HF2: Shirou knife scene

HF3: Shirou saying goodbye to Illya

[Anonymous No.]

>>34759397
You have shit taste

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>>34749873
>>34750799
Touko is my wife.

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>>34757848
>HF movies are an improvement.
Some things have improved, some become worse.

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>>34761747
kool image but I will never approve the arc redesign

[Anonymous No.]

I bet this will be in the remake.

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https://youtu.be/I7XcRomgZQs
KnK was better directed overall. Sometimes absolutely magical.

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>>34757235
this is just pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

There's a new HD patch for hollow ataraxia made using Waifu2x. Seems like it still has some bugs, though. Seems like it would be easier to make a waifu2x version of Tsukihime and Kagetsu Tohya, desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>34763213
>Waifu2x
No thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34763234
You think bilinear scaling is better than Waifu2x?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34763453
No, just use integer scaling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34753475

>new mystic code is rad

HAHAHA THIS SHIT LOOKS LIKE OH WE CAN'T HAVE HIM DOING NOTHING WE HAVE TO GIVE HIM SOMETHING TO STAND OUT

[Anonymous No.]

>>34764819
I did for Tsukihime, and it adds jaggies to the CGs. Waifu2x would be better

[Anonymous No.]

Just play in the original resolution and move your monitor closer like a real man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34765856
Waifu2x is just CUDA, which adds its own artifacts. Raw integer scaling is ideal and is the least intensive.

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>>34765727
It makes sense since the script has him using Mash’s shields and being powered up by command seals to punch Goetia to death. Might as well give him a Mystic Code that makes it more believable that a fag like him would do that to a dying man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>34765981
this will never not be retarded, no matter how they try to justify it

[Anonymous No.]

>>34765968
Well, for FHA at least integer scaling on a 1920x1080 screen isn't feasible because it's 800x600. I suppose it's worth it if you fell for the 1440p meme, or have a 4k screen

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>>34766358

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>>34719462
This is trash
shirou vs archer is what still needs to be surpassed

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>>34766105
yeah it's stupid, but Nasu has to make the self-insert do something cool at the end after being a mana battery for most of the story. If only the story showed Ritsuka training hard to become a better Master but he to keep his boring average human that has nothing unique about him trait for some reason. Can't have the MC grow and change and get stronger throughout the story.

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>>34762742
sorry to break it for you bro but knk op is shit, watch the real audio-visual masterpiece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3p8nxO_XiE

[Anonymous No.]

>>34770211
Do you guys still hate this and why?

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>>34770268
local autists hate HF just for omitting one or two scenes from the VN, do you think they'd try to stay reasonable when all routes get mashed together accompanied with unnecessary plot changes and mid 00's hentai tier animation quality?

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>>34719462
I hate this scene, worst fight scene in HF. Very Shounen-ny

[Anonymous No.]

>>34766486
About time.

[Anonymous No.]

All this talk of hf made me want to replay it. Any way to skip fate and ubw with op's torrent?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34770732
I hate post, worst in this thread. Very plebeian

[Anonymous No.]

>>34770987
Just download a save file

[Anonymous No.]

>>34771006
Beat someone up and steal their save file

[Anonymous No.]

wth was that scene of Rider breaking in the Matou Mansion like some action star

[Anonymous No.]

Is Kirei any match for Ciel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>34771093
Do you happen to have one? Can't find a link in the op or in the torrent.

[Anonymous No.]

So if saber's ahoge gets cut off in a fight, does she turn into saber alter

[Anonymous No.]

>>34771390
For Starters Ciel is immortal.

[Anonymous No.]

https://fusetter.com/tw/a04PGjhZ#all
https://twitter.com/alex_swak/status/1393865781151141898 (embed)
Summary of Camelot part 2 production notes by the director:

Director Kazuto Arai talking about Fate/GO Camelot2 production. He wanted a Disney-like character-based system for action scenes.
Tristan: Takumi Sunakohara
Gawain: Itsuki Tsuchigami
Agravain: Hakuyu Go
From storyboards to KA, solo. Expectedly couldn't 100% pull it off, but each drew ~100 cuts

Except for Furukawa Ryouta, who soloed all of Lancelot's battle. "That guy is amazing" he says. He took a hands-off approach when it came to them. He told each to do their parts the way they wanted, from color to music to everything, he will just do support.

"We had 4 Directors instead of just one" It put huge strain on schedule, since each wanted to do something different with his part and keeping consistency was a nightmare, but "The movie on screen is the result of sticking to this approach of going all out, and then exceeding that"

And then Hakuyu Go. The last battle was Arai's, but he somehow couldn't draw something fit for the climax. Struggling and redrawing multiple times, Go suggested letting him do rough layout (LO) for the scene. Arai describes it as "A Miyazaki's Heidi or Kon's Patlabor2 LO-System in a hurry

So Go did rough LO for all 130 cuts of the last battle. Credits are: SB/Direction: Arai, Screen Composition: Go. "He really saved me."
Don't forget Go ALREADY handled over 100 cuts on his own AND helped supervise (AD) other's parts.

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>>34770413
Except Aniplex and Ufotable had all the money and time in the world to make a perfect HF adaptation.
Yet they still failed.
There's no excuse.

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>>34772831
>make a perfect HF adaptation.

Eh, i think they did well. There's so much you can fit in 2 hour movies. Some scenes were too long(Saber vs. Rider) and some were too short (Archer vs Rider)

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>>34772532
>Disney-like character-based system for action scenes.
umm quo

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>>34772893
>There's so much you can fit in 2 hour movies
Then make more movies.

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>>34772915
In Disney movies every major character had its own dedicated team of animators that did all the character's cuts.
Japanese studios usually split cuts instead between animators.

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>>34773093
That costs a lot of money and Aniplex may not deem it worthwhile in terms of production cost to revenue. Also, Ufotable might have been booked for other projects after so slipping in four movies might not have been possible.

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>>34772831
it's perfect for me, don't really care if it wasn't for you liking, autismo, because you're not getting anything better anyway, lmao

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>>34773194
This. Complaining about such a great trilogy just because it skipped a scene or two is completely fucking retarded.

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>>34773093
3 two hour movies is enough. My only problem is how to focus was allocated. HF is a poor route visually, most of the fun stuff is in tex of monologues and expositions

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>>34773189
>That costs a lot of money and Aniplex may not deem it worthwhile in terms of production cost to revenue
Not at all. FGO makes billions. A movie costs maybe 2-5 millions. It's nothing for Aniplex.
Even without that, a FSN anime is a guaranteed hit. More movies, more money.
>Ufotable might have been booked for other projects after so slipping in four movies might not have been possible.
No. They had enough time to plan everything properly.

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>>34773330
get on director's board of aniplex, you're the financial genius they've been missing all these years

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>>34773305
Agree. They still could've pulled it off.

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>>34773386
Nah they knew that retards will eat a butchered adaptation up, no need to try extra hard. They were right.

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>>34773293
>it skipped a scene or two
Nigga it was basically a highlight reel.

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I'm glad they didn't show the two scenes where Shirou punches ilya

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Why was everyone a UNIT in the manga

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>>34771790
yeah but she loses to the cock

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>>34773665
Can kotomine even get it up

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>>34773730
if he sees her suffering, sure

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>>34773471
if that's 'butchered', i'd love if they butchered fate route and shingetsutan in the same way

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>>34774038
DEEN stay night is unironically the most faithful adaptation of a VN route.

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>>34774098
nice shitpost

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>>34774161
No scenes from the VN missed ( cause there was barely any)

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>>34774176
i guess you have no problem with scenes ripped directly from UBW and HF routes if you call that 'most faithful'

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>>34771390
Didn’t Nasu say in an interview that prime Kirei would have a good chance of beating Ciel? Anyway, I doubt he can beat her since she’s basically immortal.

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Ufo UBW is by miles the best fate adapation even if you don't like it.

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>>34774687
as a VN adaptation yes, but Fate/Zero is better if that counts.

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>>34774687
It's the best adaptation

It's not really a good one though.

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Does (Nanaya) Shiki really become the head of the Tohno household in Hisui's True end? I mean I read it of course but this would mean all "legitimate" descendants wouldn't have demon blood in them(since I'm assuming if Shiki produced offpsring it would be with Hisui). Doesn't this also mean that Shiki is, in a way, the best Tohno household head because his Nanaya blood fits well with destroying monsters, meaning any branch family members with inversion impulses would be easily taken care of? Also, his Nanaya blood would be passed down to his descendants too, so...

Shiki sort of usurped the throne of a powerful, influential, rich family in that ending... and they are sort of better off for it.

Is it the best Tsukihime ending?

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>>34775151
I mean both Akiha and Kohaku die so I don’t think it’s the best ending in Tsukihime for Shiki. Doesn’t the Tohno clan have other board memebers that would fight for the head clan leader?

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>>34775151
Nah, as far as I remember and understand it, Shiki and Hisui leave the mansion, the titles, and all the half-demon stuff behind to start a normal life away from all that shit. The mansion, titles and possessions of the main Tohno branch is probably taken over by a branch family.
Which makes it the best ending.

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>>34773730
She's only good at anal though

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>Is it the best Tsukihime ending?

Kohaku true. Akiha and Kohaku doont deserve their deaths and im a sucker for happy endings so that also counts Hisui Good

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>>34775151
Afaik almost none of the Demon clans have prominent demon blood outside Akiha, SHIKI and Kouma anyway

Yewah, threesomes with Arihiko is why Hisui true is best

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>>34775870
But kohaku becomes an amnesiac. That's not exactly a happy ending.

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>>34775892
Arihiko is too good of a bro for Shiki

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>>34775939
>That's not exactly a happy ending.
It's better than living with the trauma of being a rape victim

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>>34776098
by this logic aoi also got her happy ending

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>>34776073
Arihiko deserves a waifu so I’ll gladly give him one of the maids for him to be happy. That man is a true bro that deserves love.

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>>34771513
It only needs to be touched.