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Sengoku Rance thread! Because the previous one is on autosage.

I'm planning on completing the progress report in just two more playthroughs. I don't think there's any reward, but I'm a completist and I'm enjoying it.

>> No.3455630

Anyone know what happens if you rape teh hojou girl that tripped?"

>> No.3455632

>>3455630
She's the daughter of Houjou's chief retainer.
You enter war with Houjou.

>> No.3455639

>>3455630
Auto ware declaration/
>>3455620
In theory, you could do everything left in one playthrough(IIRC, you can make Iga surrender after re-establishing).

>> No.3455654

>>3455639
No.
You can't close the Shikoku gate and character clear Kawane Yuzuru in one playthrough

>> No.3455656

Damn should have raped her.

>> No.3455658

>>3455639
I have to kill Souun for one event, and I also have to clear him. I don't think I could do it, short on loading a save file and replaying through half the game.
In any case it'll be easier to do it in two. When I go against the Hades boss and the Orochi, I don't want two generic archers taking precious commander slots.

>> No.3455699

Can Demon Kentarou even die in dungeon battles? If he can't, that'd be a huge help.
I was also thinking of saving his super potion thing for later. I hear if you get Attack Luck and Kentarou's special move you can kill the apostle without using it.

>> No.3455706

>>3455654
Ohm right, the gate.
>>3455658
The important thing is to farm Kentarou, kinda cheap but makes it easier.

>> No.3455772

Thats weird i reloaded a save to try and get the hojou girl event but it didnt trigger for me...

>> No.3455786

>>3455772
How do i get the event to trigger again?

>> No.3455797

I wish I could turn into a cute Hanniwa.

I'd raep Rizna, and impregnate her until she goes mind-broken. Then secretly turn into a Hanniwa who could comfort her back to health again. And then turn back to my sadistic self, and proceed to raep and mind break her again. Deliciously vicious circle making delicious damaged goods, poor Rizna would never know what hit her.

>> No.3455800

>>3455786
Doing whatever you did the first time should work. I remember loading a few times to try out different things and the even always happened for me.

>> No.3455803

>>3455800
Pretty sure i did the same things but its not showing up again.

>> No.3455810
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3455810

Rizna is made of delicious damaged goods, and she'd become a delicious milf too.

>> No.3455820

>>3455803
Try conquering the territories next to Houjou.

>> No.3455859

>>3455810
hopefully geting beaten up to the point of miscarriage didn't permanently damage her womb.

>> No.3456468

Kichiku Rance looks like it might be even better than Sengoku Rance...
I can't wait for a translation. I'm learning Japanese.

>> No.3456538

>>3455820
It happens in lower Tenshi territory, as far as I know

>> No.3457244

>>3456538
I can't remember where it happened for me.
There's also a possibility that it can happen anywhere.

>> No.3457378
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3457378

yuki is such a slut, also the lack of Shizuka H in this game is appalling.

*sips soda*

>> No.3457387

>>3455797
You monster.

>> No.3457587

>>3457378
You know, I always saw her as more of a whore than a slut.
Oda attacks? She thinks about whoring herself out to stop the war. War starts, Oda invades, some guy offers to help in exchange for her? She follows him and whores herself out to him so he'll repel Oda. Oda followers are after her? She whores herself out to some old guy so he'll hide her. Then she whores herself out to some other old guy so a house will go to war against Oda, and then she whores herself out to some bandits because she's hoping they'll attack Oda.
See a pattern here?
Any problem appears, Yukihime only has one response. Whoring.

>> No.3457605

If she had just put out in the first place non of the mess would have happened, and ironically she ends up putting out for someone anyway.

>> No.3457617

>>3457387
The hannies are having fun

I want to be a Neutron Hanny

>> No.3457623

>>3457617
Neutronium Hanny? Oh, we're fucked.

>> No.3457636

>>3457605
You know, that's a good point. She coulda gone to Rance in the first place and whored herself out to just one guy instead of having to do it to a dozen disgusting dudes and watching her homeland burn and tens of thousands of her people die.
She's got one of the worst ends in the entire game and I can't manage to feel sorry for her.

>> No.3457646

>>3457605
>>3457636
hindsight is 20/20

put yourself in her position and you'd probably do the same (well, the refusing to fuck rance part at least)

>> No.3457657

So it reads on their page that the translation is completed but it also reads on their page that the newest patch is 0.90 and it doesn't have everything translated yet.

>> No.3457659

>>3457657
BETA TESTING LOL

Expect the 1.00 patch sometime next year.

>> No.3457663

>>3457659
It never took them too long, doubtful it will happen now.

>> No.3457691

Currently trying the 3 fans in 13 turns strategy (still newfag clearing routes) and raging at sill's dungeon event refusing to show up in kyo no matter how much i reload. didn't have to reload once to get it last route...

also, what are the best bonuses when you have few points?

>> No.3457707

>>3457691
3d flag, first of all.
Then Bonus characters (5 poinst each, only 4 are good), then a few items(like Gold statues, Popularity stuff, lv2 books).
Usually, flag, 2 Bonus characters and a couple items is a good combo.

>> No.3457712

>>3457691
Maybe you need to have Suzume first, just do some other event then do the dungeon in the next turn. One or two extra turns won't hurt, it's not like you have to, or need to reach that fan within 13 turns, it can be 15 or anything as long as you are satisfied with yourself

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>>3457646

In JAPAN, the path of least resistance never leads anywhere good.
So, some guy takes over your kingdom? Grab him as co-regent. Problem solved.

>> No.3457750

>>3457712
other than switching two events around (did +1 sat before 7/7 affection with Suzume due to getting shit for items, still did both before dungeon) I've done the exact same things in as many turns as last time. checking the wiki I've done the same stuff in as many turns as I should. but I guess I can just go for it on turn 14/15 yeah.

>> No.3457759

>>3457691
3rd flag and Battle Permits are the obvious first choices.
If you're having trouble picking items, Rance's Love and Popularity Staff are pretty great. Maybe Guts Armor too.

>> No.3457768

I don't imagine it will take long to get the last patch out, maybe tomorrow. In retrospect there's only a handful of events untranslated anyway.

>> No.3457777
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3457777

What rance game is the man with nude women pauldrons in?

>> No.3457788 [DELETED] 
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>>3457777
Appears in Kichikuoh.
Normally, looks like this.
Grows women and looks human after becoming the Demon King.

>> No.3457791
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3457791

>>3457777
Appears in Kichikuoh.
Normally, looks like this.
Grows women and looks human after becoming the Demon King.

>> No.3457806

>>3457791

... a zergling?

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>>3457806

>> No.3457852
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>>3457827

The world isn't big enough for two king-sized arthropods.

>> No.3457902

>>3457852
Noir has an awesome hat.

>> No.3457988

Ehhh, i am kind of a noob on this matter, i read the wikipedia entry for this game, but it is a wargame or a h-game? And does it have a full english patch for downloading?

>> No.3458002

>>3457988

Yes.

>> No.3458012

>>3457988
The final, full patch will be released in about a week, give or take a few days, so might want to wait until it's out.

>> No.3458163

>>345798
it's a wargame and an h game, and there's a 90% patch out atm

>> No.3458178

>>3457605
Whore myself out to the ruler of Oda to have peace? Screw that.
Whore myself out to some random stranger after Oda declares war to prevent being taken over? LAWLKAY

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3459163

Im da devil king and I make my own Waifu

>> No.3459873
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3459873

oh shit, Sengoku Rance on XBOX360!....... oh wait.

>> No.3459898

>>3459873
You mean XBQX360.

>> No.3459904

Wait a minute, in the op's screenshot, what are the Russo-Japanese war and the campaign of Bunroku routes?

>> No.3459906

>>3459873
So.. Is there going to be anything different or added or removed from the 360 version?

>> No.3459909

>>3459904
I think those are FFA events

>> No.3459915

>>3459873

all those removed rape scenes...

>> No.3459943
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3459943

>>3459873
it's not Rance w/o the rape, we'll maybe we'll get a sequel faster this way.

>> No.3459981

What's the easiest way to get the Takeda generals recruited by other houses, or do I just have to bide my time waiting for them to be recruited, then hope that when I attack/defend, they'll be in the enemy army?

>> No.3459995

>>3459873
Whoa.

>> No.3459999

>>3459981
get on monkey killing route...

smash but dont conquer the last territory of atleast 4 houses.... its up to you which ones.... wait until they are recruited.. (more houses, more chances of being recruited).

repit until done.

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>>3459981
you're going to have to be patient, so you may want to do it in the ran route or kill the monkey. Also remember two hits from light attack is a guaranteed capture.

>> No.3460072

>>3460004

Guess I'll load up an older Monkey save and give some characters light attack, as I've yet to see any of them get recruited.

>> No.3460104

>>3460072
It can take forever. I left three countries alive and literally sat there for about 30 turns until the first one was recruited by Iga of all people. Thankfully, the other two were recruited soon after that, but it can take awhile. Just try to keep capturing/killing all the other generals to force them to recruit new ones.

>> No.3460283

Is there a way to permanently stop senhime from leaving if you havent fought with her for a few turns?

>> No.3460294

>>3460283
Do her character clear

>> No.3460323

Is it possible to character clear shizuka?

>> No.3460394

Can you capture komatsu before the hojou house is defeated?

>> No.3460396

>>3460323

Wiki suggests no but as long as there's an option to talk to her, I don't see why you can't. Probably just requires you to get her to 7 normal/trust.

>> No.3460531
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3460531

You're Sengoku Rance threads need more silly hats.

>> No.3460539
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>> No.3460548
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>> No.3460557

>>3460531
But Kenshin's helmet isn't silly.

>> No.3460565

>>3460557
get out

>> No.3460575
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3460575

>>3460565
What? It isn't.

>> No.3460637
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>>3460575
Your argument may have had weight if her special attack did NOT involve her ramming you with it.

>> No.3460795

That hat seems like it would get in the way during battle.

>> No.3460808

>>3460637
That only makes it more useful. So, basically it's silly looking, but not silly per se.

>> No.3460818
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>>3460637
Look, I've seen silly hats, lots of them, and this one isn't really that silly.

I mean, just look at touhou. or THIS.

>> No.3460909
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>> No.3460932

On my second playthrough asai asakura declared war on me...apparently ranced grabbed yukihime's boobs but i didnt get the dialog option to choose...what the?

>> No.3460954

>>3460932
You only stall it somewhat.
If you did fondle her, they'd declare war on the same turn.

>> No.3460965

>>3460909
Where is my fifthsome with rance sill kenshin, isokoru and ran? WHERE??!!

>> No.3460994

Gourds dont matter on the nanjo ran route right?

>> No.3460998

>>3460994
After the Honouji temple?
No.
You must do the requirements before the 5th one breaks.

>> No.3461007

>>3460965
Fucking all the main heroines (barring Kou) at the same time would destroy the fabric of the universe.

>> No.3461024

>>3460998
Im already on the nanjo ran route...before the 5th gourd broke. Thats alright right?

>> No.3461035

>>3461024
It means you have fulfilled the requirements, so you are mostly set(Protip: Release the triplet)

>> No.3461036

>>3461035
Release the what?

>> No.3461051

Can i get hojou soun as a commander in the nanjo ran route? And when do i get him?

>> No.3461053

>>3461051
No.

>> No.3461054

>>3461036
If you conquered Tenshin, you'll get it.
>>3461051
Nope/

>> No.3461071

I need a good footshielder unit for my 3rd war group...any ideas? Im usng shibatsu katsuie for my first one and senhime for my second one.

>> No.3461085

>>3461071
Well, if you have a couple Defense-Attack textbooks, you can use them on Maeda keiji, and then use two satisfaction bonuses on him.
If you do not, forget it.
Then, you can hire the sister from Kyo.
Finally, conquering Takuga, Mouri and One Eye gives you good footsoldiers each (Takuga is a decent choice)

>> No.3461089

Shizuka isnt clearable, you cant get her above hate.

>> No.3461108

>>3461054
What happens if i DONT release manmaru?

>> No.3461113
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>>3461071
TERU!!!!
Use superior maid power.

>> No.3461121

>>3461108
Then you get to keep her for interogations. And raep...

>> No.3461124

>>3461121
Will it affect anything in the nanjo ran route?

>> No.3461142

>>3461108
>>3461124
See for yourself.
It's fun.

>> No.3461156

>>3461113
Pretty random match-up.

Why is KOS-MOS fighting Sakuya?

>> No.3461160

>>3461113
Teru is so fucked up, when you give her the dragonfly cutter, she wrecks anyone who attacks your frontline.

>> No.3461168

>>3461160
YES! That's why she's so beautiful. MEIDO POWER

>> No.3461176
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>>3461160
Teru is a nice girl.

>> No.3461188

What happens if you dont go the temple at all? Game over when Suzaku wakes up?

>> No.3461190

>>3461071
If you have a couple Def books available to use on Toshiie, and two Sat bonuses to spare, Maeda Keiji is your guy.
Natural 9 Def? Hell yes. That's one kickass Ashigaru unit right there.

>> No.3461201

>>3461160
And that is the main reason I attack Mori before either Hojo or Uesugi.

>> No.3461202

>>3461190
Downside : You cant talk to him to raise his sastification.

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3461207

>>3461054
>coqurered Tenshin

I don't think so.

>> No.3461210

>>3461156
1, because Orion likes them
and 2, because they are both battle maniac characters.

>> No.3461249

>>3461210
princess of battle vs queen of cleaning

Final Destination

>> No.3461269

If I ever get a daughter I'd want someone like Teru.
>>3461176
She's a good girl, she loves her papa.

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>>3461269
Of course.
Also, diligent and good at house work.

>> No.3461277

Whats a good unit to use rance's photo and rance's love on?

>> No.3461291

>>3461277
The idea is to take an average unit that has no special skills or stats and give them the item, to make them worthwhile(since for really good units, there are few things you cann add and they have better items to use).
Daidouji who gains troops and needs stats is an example(and she can gain even more).
Agireda too.
Masamune also could use it to build up special attacks/skills and some troops.

A decent footsoldier is another choice(give them Ally Guard plus + Extra initial guard, plus spear attacks and troops).

>> No.3461295

>>3461277
There's also the popularity staff.

You'll want to give it to units that damage a lot but are also expensive. Units like Maria or Omachi for example.

>> No.3461299

>>3461277
Rance's Love is tricky because it requires you to have access to the character's homeland to be able to get the powerup (the first 2-3 times you may get lucky and have no beginning of turn event, but I wouldn't count on it). You can use the Popularity Staff on that character and switch to Rance's Love when you have access to their homeland, or equip it to a character with their dialog option in Oda.
The Brute Photo is much slower, but since it adds only one Affection per turn you can equip it on a generic (with no dialog option) since they'll never "waste" an affection point by going from 6/7 to 7/7 like it'd happen with Rance's Love.

>> No.3461302

>>3461274
so...so moe. I must love meido tenderly :3

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>>3461291
>Daidouji

wait what

>> No.3461304

>>3461291
What about nanjo ran?

>> No.3461313

>>3461304
...Now, that is a tricky one.
Since you have her in the Ran route all the time, making her a bit better is a good idea, but only Shoun and Omachi are really great.
Even Kojika is a better diviner choice.
She could make use of it, but she is never really useful.
Plus, you most likely already give her affection through events.

>> No.3461332

>>3461303
She's the warrior chick from Houjo. Really low stats, so there's a lot of growth potential for her.

(I prefer to give it to expensive units though, for example: after Maria has 9 atk and 9 spd, I just give her +100 troop everytime. That's a lot of free money.)

>> No.3461336

>>3461332
Maria should just have popularity staff from the get go.

>> No.3461338

>>3461336
Rance's Love >>>>> Popularity staff

>> No.3461348

>>3461338
Sure.
But Maria does not need it.
She only need Double Tulip attack and troops.
Getting her stats too high is costly and somewhat unnecessary.

>> No.3461350

YOu need to buy the charisma staff first though.

>> No.3461351
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3461351

>>3461332
oic

>> No.3461360

Does kentarou join you in nanjo ran's route?

>> No.3461365

>>3461336
>>3461338
Popularity Staff adds 60 troops every three turns.
Rance's Love adds 100 troops every three turns and can be used to increase other stats or gain abilities, *however*
Rance's Love costs one action every three turns to gain the bonus. It requires access to the character's homeland. It cannot be unequipped.
I believe both items are fairly well balanced.
Popularity Staff = Rance's Love

>> No.3461384

>>3461365
No rance's love requires 3 turn and 2 actions. It will stop at 6/7 and you need to spend 2 actions to push it to the next level.

>> No.3461387

>>3461365
>I believe both items are fairly well balanced.
True. If you forced me to choose, I'd have to take into consideration if the required action point is worth it compared to the popularity staff.

But if I had both, I'd give Rance's Love the my most damaging/expensive unit.

>> No.3461392

>>3461384
He probably meant to say:
>Popularity Staff adds 80 troops every four turns.
>Rance's Love adds 100 troops every four turns

>> No.3461406

>>3461384
If you put Rance's Love on a character it means it's one of your most used units. It will commonly gain at least 1 Affection from combat during those three turns.
>>3461387
I do the same! On games other than 5-star I don't really look at the cost, but definitely use it on my best unit.
The exception would be Daidouji Komatsu. It's sad to see a Bushi unit with 2500 troops and garbage stats when she could have 3000 troops and great stats.

>> No.3461417

>>3461406
>It will commonly gain at least 1 Affection from combat during those three turns.
Ah, right, didn't take that factor into consideration.

>> No.3461423

>>3461406
I just komatsu as a battle permit unit.

>> No.3461438

>>3461406
>I don't really look at the cost
Sometimes this can be good to do though. For the strength of your overall army, the gold you earn every turn is used well if they are used on units that are both effective and cheap.

>> No.3461452

>>3461423
Isn't it irritating to have to fire 20 dudes every turn?
I like to keep permit units at 1000 so they don't cost me any more gold than necessary (caps losses at 999).
>>3461438
You're absolutely correct, and I do manage my gold in 5-star runs. On anything less though, I find that I tend to let my gold pile up because I just don't need to use it. Once in a while I have to "wake up" and blow 50k or 100k on troops. I'm not so good at keeping track of these things.

>> No.3461462

>>3461452
3 gold statues, merchant, asset tech...you get tons of gold every turn.

>> No.3461470

>>3461452
>>3461462
Depending on difficulty and number of battles, just healing takes it all away.
And senselessly blowing money on troops is bad, since the opponent scales.

>> No.3461485

>>3461470
>since the opponent scales
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
THEY DO???

I thought they only scaled according to your National Power, and not your troops ;_;

>> No.3461493

Nope, definitely scales to your troops, however, the scaling is different per region - basically, the game has scripts for everything and different algorithms for scaling the troop count - the way Dokuganryuu scales is different to the way the Demon Army scales, which is very different to the way the Hannys scale (read: not at all).

>> No.3461509

>>3461493
Well then, would it help if I trim down my Assassin units? and my Yuzumi unit?

>> No.3461536

>>3461509
There's some "rules" for scaling. Like, any unit with less than 300 troops doesn't count. Ashigaru units don't count either.
Problem is, units you receive scale too. I read that some people have been minmaxing by keeping 300 troops per unit before engaging opponents (to reduce enemy troop counts), and dismissing one guy before receiving new units to maximize them. Even going as far as using the +5000 troops item to do so.

>> No.3461552

>>3461536
>any unit with less than 300 troops doesn't count.
Damn, Looks I I need to give my Yuzumi about 50 more troops then.

Oh yeah, and my Natori could use some trimming too then....
Goddamn I need to revise my army hugely now.

>> No.3461559

Loot is an excellent way to earn money btw. I always get +1000 gold per battle.

And now that I know that foot soldiers don't affect the scaling, it looks to be a more and more viable strategy to have one footsoldier defend and one footsoldier to loot/attack.

>> No.3461561

>>3461552
Yeeeeah, as much as I like finding out about game mechanics, some of them are just not fun to abuse. I just play normally, except I love knowing that I can hire a gajillion Ashigaru troops without scaling my opponents in the process.

>> No.3461569

>>3461559
Hax setup:
Footsoldier def / Footsoldier atk / Leila 499 troops / (bench-warming units at 300)
vs
low scaled enemy troops

Need to try this sometime.

>> No.3461577

Do you get kentarou in the nanjo ran route?

>> No.3461580

>>3461577
Pretty sure you don't.

>> No.3461585

>>3461274
HNNNNNNGNGGGGGGG

>> No.3461586

>>3461585
I wish to be a racoon that helps Teru with cleaning.

>> No.3461595

>>3461586
I'd be uncomfortable with having my testicles hang down to the freaking ground.
This dude's in-game sprite is... just... scary.

>> No.3461602

>>3461274

Why is she so Sakuya-san in appearance?

>> No.3461628

>>3461602
Because she's meido MOOOEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.3461727

Whats teh story with katsuko and torako? You cant capture them when fighting against kenshin, and they are furries...

>> No.3461743

>>3461727
I don't know about them being furries... I think Torako wears some sort of fake animal ears.
You can't capture them because they're in a scene when you conquer Uesugi. If you want them you have to wait until they get hired by other houses and capture them from those houses (Honda Masanobu works the same way even though he obviously doesn't have an H scene).

>> No.3461747

>>3461743
But i want racoon h-scenes!

>> No.3461751

I gave tanegashima the emperor's ring, think i made a mistake, because hes definately too slow to make use of the 3rd action...

Maybe if i get him up to 9 speed he will be fast enough to shoot 3 tiems in a single battle?

>> No.3461761

That's odd, Musket units are usually pretty fast.
But the ring was probably a bad idea either way... Musket units do damage equal to their troop count. Attack is wasted on them. They should never be attacked directly so Defense is usually wasted as well, and Int has no particular effect on them either. If you're saying you can't use his 3rd action either, then it means the Speed is the only benefit you get.

>> No.3461763

>>3461751
Nope.
While Musketeers are very fast and have a good speed modifier to START the battle, it takes a while to reload.
Leila is a much better unit for the emperor ring.

>> No.3461764

What are the Ashigaru units?

>> No.3461776

>>3461763
Leila is never fast enough to use all actions unless you spam royal guard charge, which to my knowledge does NOT do any extra damage if the enemy unit size is not larger.

>> No.3461779

>>3461764
footmen

>> No.3461780

>>3461776
She loses FAR less units during the attack.
And she is quite fast regardless.
But the idea is to use Charge 3 times while enhancing overall performance(she already has good stats).

>> No.3461783

>>3461764
Ashigaru have been translated as "Footmen".
Look it up, I think their in-game statistics are a good match for their real world selves.

>> No.3461801

Yo, /jp/...
Are there more good Sengoku strategy games?
I only can think of Shogun: Total War and Nobunaga's Ambition.

>> No.3461803

How do i get the kenshin coup to trigger? My battle permit users keep trying to attack kenshin's last province and getting raped in the process due to infinite night raids.

>> No.3461806

>>3461803
Unequip the battle Permits.
Also, it takes usually a couple rounds or so after you conquer the first Uesugi area.

>> No.3461838

>>3461803
Trigger the night raid once, then just wait

>> No.3461859

How do i get the option to kidnap kurohime? I had a commander run away but...nothing...

>> No.3461863

>>3461859
Conquering an area in original Shimazu territory helps.

>> No.3461965

Kenshin's coup event refuses to trigger...i think it has to do with the nanjo ran route events suppressing it....horrible timing really.

>> No.3461968

>>3461859
You have to have a beginning of turn event where Rance says he's pissed.
A few times I've had to reload several times to get this event. All other times, they just seduced another girl.
And yes, you do need access to Shimazu lands to get the kidnap option, though I don't know if it absolutely has to be one of the original lands.

>> No.3462001

When does the kenshin coup event occur? Beginning of turn?

>> No.3462014

>>3462001
It happens eventually.

>> No.3462045

>>3462014
10+ turns and its not occuring, usually it occurs within 3 or 4 turns for me.

>> No.3462067

>>3462045
Make sure you see at least one night-raid. Otherwise it'll happen eventually.

>> No.3462075

>>3462067
Ive seen multiple night raids.

>> No.3462076

>>3461968

I got tired of waiting for Shimazu to steal one of the 5 generic female captains I didn't give a damn about instead of the 2 or so I had at trust so I could kidnap kurohime. Instead, I just conquered them normally and never lost a captain to them.

>> No.3462081

>>3462076
Totally viable strategy. Hell, if you're not looking to recruit the Shimazu brothers or get Agireda's 2nd H scene, it's probably the best strategy!

>> No.3462115

>>3462081

It was funny watching all of the brothers go down to an army of 3 foot soldiers, Omachi and 2 ninjas. Really surprised how well Assassinate 2 works on enemy units, even when they outnumber you 2:1

>> No.3462118

>>3462081
It's not like being viable, it's easy. The first time I did ran's route I didn't even knew conquered them and they didn't stole one of my comanders (It was a 40 turn run, but still its easy to avoid losing your comanders to the brothers, also you don't really need them, because Ran's route is very easy)

>> No.3462123

>>3462115
Suzume at 200 troops is viable of Assassinating 2000 troops with better than you'd think chances.
And if you include Omachi anywhere and lose (save Hannies, but still), you do something wrond.

>> No.3462149

Sekimei is a level 80 boss with 2.3k hp?! How the fuck do i kill him...

>> No.3462153

>>3462149
Sekimei is just a fast faggot with one physical attack.
If you beat Xavier, NOT beating Sekimei is unrealistic.

>> No.3462156

>>3462153
Its easy to beat xavier when you use gigai to farm up kentarou to level 70+.

>> No.3462157

>>3462123

I actually found the Tokugawa raccoon ninjas and Kanami to be better than Orime and Suzume when it comes to assassinating for some reason.

>> No.3462163

>>3462157
They usually have more troops.
But assassinate 2>assassinate no matter what.
Maybe coincidence.

>> No.3462166

I feel the nanjo ran route hurries you too much...

You have to close the holes fast or you will fuck yourself over...and once you close the holes the end game timer starts running. You can push the demon army to the last 2 provindes with no problem, and take as much time as you need to build up.

>> No.3462168

>>3462163

I like to believe that it's because they drink and hit on all of the girls/Rance in a d'awwww -like manner.

>> No.3462169

What a shitty game.

>> No.3462175
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3462175

>>3462156
No, because of Percentage attack that hits everyone.
Here's my team, visiting only 3 dungeons(Rance got 4 Pukkuru statues)
Beat Sekimei, no problem.

>> No.3462184

Oh nanjo ran rotue is over. Man i still had so many character clears, etc to do. I really need to stop attacking the temple so fast.

>> No.3462188

>>3462184
You can postpone Sekimei for QUITE a while.

>> No.3462194

>>3462175
Against xavier he only got off that attack once before dying. Kentarou + Rance at high levels can pretty much solo him.

Cant see levels but the only high level characters i had were rance and sill, the rest were doing shitty damage due to level gap with sekimei. Rance with 5 action points ran out of moves, luckily sill finished him off. Gekkou/Suzume/etc were doing jack shit(50-100 hp or less).

>> No.3462205

>>3462194
As I said, I only did THREE dungeons, so take their starting levels.
And no, Rance and kentarou cannot solo him, One Percentage attack and a normal attack kills Rance almost always.
Assuming Kentarou lives from percentage attacks without help.
Being lucky and him using it ONLY once is not the normal.
You need healers/diviners/footmen plus some luck to beat Xavier, no matter levels.
If you have all that plus lv99 Kentarou, THEN it's easy.

>> No.3462211

Ran route has two endings, one with Ran ending with her boyfriend... and other, ditching him and choosing Rance.

Make sure and see both of it.

>> No.3462212

>>3462188
Any idea how many turns? Im trying to think of a way to drag the nanjo ran rotue...hmm...you need to clear hojou house to go to the oil field dungeon...if you DONT clear the dungeon before 5th gourd breaks, you cant go into the route...so thats not much time either. But if you clear the dungeon and DONT go to the temple, will nanjo ran die at some point?

>> No.3462216

>>3462205
Not sure why my game was so easy in the first playthrough then. Xavier used his AOE attack, then hit someone twice(not rance or kentarou). Rance and Kentarou basically raped him with massive damage. I used no healers or diviners.

>> No.3462223

>>3462212
Let me put it this way:
After you clear the hellholes and Shoun goes in the dungeon, where you go in and fight Sekimei, you have a lot of time.
I just reloaded a save before Sekimei's tomb, and skipped 11 turns with nothing happening.

>> No.3462225

>>3462216
Luck of him not attacking Rance/Kentarou and spamming his AoE attack.
It happens.
On the other hand, he used his spam attack on me once cosntantly and attacked a single target in his TENTH attack.

>> No.3462226

I've heard people mention Shizuka often, but how are you supposed to get her?

>> No.3462232

>>3462226
Additional Character Bonus.
When you call Maria as reinforcement, She also appears eventually.
Just have available NP.

>> No.3462233

>>3462226
20 point additional character bonus, obtained after you get maria(beginning of turn event).

She has a passive that increases chances to capture captains, but her speed and lack of action points make her useless as anything other than a white destruction ray user the moment her turn comes up.

>> No.3462251

>>3462232
>>3462233
I see, thanks guys. I'm just about to accept the second batch of reinforcements from Leazus (already had the character bonus for Gekkou).

>> No.3462296

I have a feeling the kenshin coup event wont trigger if rance and kenshin havent met on the battlefield yet.

>> No.3462301

>>3462296
...That may be right.

>> No.3462330

>>3462296

How have you managed to pull that one off? Guaranteed win makes for easy conquer of first Uesegi province.

>> No.3462339

>>3462330
I kept using rance in battles against shimazu and kenshi almost never showed up in battle.

>> No.3462343

>>3461801
I don't know but I'd love to see a rance game with total war-like combat. Either that or Dynasty Warriors style.

RANCE: TOTAL RAPE

>> No.3462349

>>3462339

You do know that they only meet on the battlefield if you are fighting a battle against Uesegi only, right?

>> No.3462360

>>3462349
I meant that kenshi almost never showed up in battles against kenshin house.

>> No.3462363

>>3462360
Deploy Rance without scouting->Be surprised.

>> No.3462391

Who the fuck is keikoku anyway?

>> No.3462398
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3462398

Shizuka is a pretty good candidate for Rance's love, her speed is pretty poor and her Int could always be better.

>> No.3462404
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3462404

>>3462391
Cursed Youkai lady.
Immortal(not just ageless) due to the curse.
Due to various events, became spiteful enough to stir up shit.

>> No.3462413

>>3462404
I hope she'll be in the next Rance game, along with Suzume who will most likely replace Sill

>> No.3462435

>>3462398
She just has too few action points though...and all the books are too damn rare, since you cant buy them and they are random drops only.

>> No.3462442

>>3462435
Mages have bad attacks either way.
You should use White Destruction right away and exploit Sticky for Shizuka.
While they are decent for Dungeons, they are far below the level cap, so adding Action points is pointless.

>> No.3462447

>>3462413
Sorry bub, Suzume was confirmed to stay behind in JAPAN in both the Sengoku epilogue.
(as well as the 3 slash, stab, and burn minigame)

>> No.3462449

>>3462435
you give her Rance's love so wont have to give her and stat books. Her number of actions points doesn't matter either since her subsequent turns take too long to come up, just use white destruction beam.

>> No.3462454

Speed isnt that important if you are just going to use white destruction.

Also im not sure about this but fire blast seems to suck hard, nanjo ran with summon ogre seems to do more damage than rizna.

>> No.3462466

>>3462454
They have bad damage modifiers.
999 Magic troops are still not as damaging as most ranged units (Mikos/tacticians aside).
White Destruction though which also bypasses guard can ruin the opposition.

>> No.3462474

Stats affect dungeon mode right?

>> No.3462478

Is there a way to make Kazemaru useful?

It seems you need to blow 2 attack books on him then get hibachi for an 8 attack warrior unit....

>> No.3462486

>>3462478
You should have Plenty of books (levies+dungeons).
As long as you do that and have fulfilled Hibachi requirements, it's easy to get +2 plus 100 extra kills.
Even at his low level, he can 100+ damage on anything in dungeons at that point.
But only Rance can really skyrocket to AWESOME with not overwasting resources (since half of the ones that do the trick are derived from satisfaction)/

>> No.3462488

>>3462474
Nope.
Only action points.
Certain items do though.

>> No.3462490 [DELETED] 

>>3455614
> Old. I already read this on http://www.anantalk.com/ (anan = anon) last night.
Tried Wikipedia?

>> No.3462500
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3462500

kazemaru isn't worth the trouble in my opinion, if only for the fact it means you have to conquer akashi, a pretty lame gourd nation.

>> No.3462519

Is there anything you can do with the sex change temple?

I managed to get options for rance, unkei and kaikei...

>> No.3462527

>>3462500
You should if you go for one eye at least.

>> No.3462533

>>3462519
Why isn't there a sex-change temple in real life? Do we even have any scientists / occult leaders working on that?

>> No.3462556

>>3462533
Not really.

>> No.3462578

Is it worth it to recruit Okita? She seems pretty shit.

>> No.3462584

>>3462519
You can change male fodder characters into female.
This way, you can raise them to highest affection (and have sex).

>> No.3462586

>>3462578
Zero cost(for less then 500 troops), decent for Dungeons, gives satisfaction.
Since she costs nearly nothing, no real reason not to most of the time.

>> No.3462587

>>3462578
she's level 50, pretty good for dungeons and she'll eventually give you 5 SAT if you bring her affection up. Pretty crappy for everything else though.

>> No.3462593

Ah, little Kazemaru.
I actually used him in my last game. Got him, used all those stupid books on him to make him 6/6/6/4, used both first powerups to raise his speed to 6, and of course the Hibachi bonus hit right after the 6th speed point, so he became 8/8/8/8 with a passive +50 damage bonus.
I was bored so I equipped him with the Emperor Ring.
Instant 9/9/9/9 character. It was amusing.

>> No.3462594

>>3462578
She has the potential to become one of the strongest swordsman in the game. (dungeon, boss fights, etc)
....but yes, she sucks on the field.

>> No.3462611

Im having trouble figuring out how to make a 4th defence group to get the takeda bonus(Defend against all 4 attacks). Playing on normal.

1st group :

Rance, ranmaru, shibatsu katsuie, shizuka, gekkou and maria

Second group : Senhime, leila, tanegishma, suzume, uruzu, katsumi

Third group : Maeda(shitty int though, really hurts his guarding), takuwan, askura yoshiaga, nanjou ran, rizna, natori

I have kazemaru, komatsu, okita, fuuka and yukihime, and some other random commanders for construction...

>> No.3462625

>>3462611

it depends on what they're sending after you. keep in mind that you only need to win. you don't need to kill them. you shouldn't need a foot solider for the first 1 or 2 fights.

>> No.3462628

>>3462611
You should put your BEST guys(damage dealers/time wasters/good stats) against Baba and Yamagata.

Koshikage and Tourin are much more forgiving in comparison(use there generic footsoldiers and simple range attackers).

Try to rethink your formation.
Or post troop page.

>> No.3462632
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3462632

>>3462611
you may want to hold out until you get some better commanders, you don't even have kenshin + Ai

>> No.3462634

>>3462632
I just got kenshin and ai actually. I have whole map except one eye and takeda.

>> No.3462637

>>3455615
> Old. I already read this on http://www.anantalk.com/ (anan = anon) last night.
You said it, dawg!

>> No.3462640

>>3462632
i'd get kenshin if you know what i mean

>> No.3462641

>>3462634
Defending all of them is pointless then, One Eye will not hire them.
Just do Tourin and Koshikage, that way they will not conquer a province for sure.

>> No.3462642
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3462642

>>3462611
Managed to beat their attacks with this army
Just don't forget their rotation: The first attack will most likely end in an assassination attempt from a ninja, the second one will use battle rating rape (or not if you are lucky), the third and the fourth one will use brute force.

>> No.3462648

>>3462641
Oh right...you need to do more than defend against their attacks...

>> No.3462654

I will just get the one eyed house unlock this game then.

>> No.3462664
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>>3462642
Pretty good.
I used this army at 2Star.

>> No.3462717
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3462717

You guys ever use Goemon, I don't usually use generics but this mofo is loaded. He comes with all sevens and six speed, most skills and pretty good neg and search.

The two actions points aren a problem but he'll mostly assassinate anyway.

>> No.3462735

I almost never use assassinate anyway. I prefer ot capture captains for level up points.

>> No.3462752
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3462752

>>3462717
First COMPLETED playthrough, saved my ass a few times/

>> No.3462762
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3462762

What the fuck does this mean? I will get 50,000 troops?

>> No.3462767

>>3462762
Nope/

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3462794

>>3462735
you get plenty kopuru playing normally, I don't think it warrants avoiding using assassinate.

>> No.3462797

>>3462717
Yamatai has pretty scary semi-uniques, doesn't it?
Himiko is 7/7/7/7 with 6 actions, Goemon is just as you described (good combat and noncombat stats).
>>3462762
I wish I knew what that item's purpose is. Equipping it doesn't seem to do anything...

>> No.3462798

>>3462797
Allows you to declare war on One Eye.
Nothing else.

>> No.3462893

Do you need kazemaru in the same battle to capture nogiku?

>> No.3463079

This is odd why isnt one eyed sending the special characters against me, they just keep attacking me with generics.

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