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ITT realistic samurai attire.

>> No.3450016

dat hat....

>> No.3450018

Naoe is awesome.

>> No.3450418

Regarding sengoku rance, doe sanyone know you are supposed to get gekkou and shizuka to show up? I already paid 20 points before starting the game, i have the hara territory and i just got maria...but i they hav enot arrived yet...

>> No.3450435

>>3450418
2nd playthrough and bonus of secret characters.

Gekkou can be hired in Hara's territory in turns 7/9 (be sure you have NP) Shizuka will join you several turns after Maria joins you.

>> No.3450437

>>3450418
Make sure you have national power enough for them and don't have more than maximum number of captains.

>> No.3450441

>>3450435
Yea i already paid 20 points to unlock them in my second play through.

Its turn 34, i dont see the option to hire gekkou....

>> No.3450446
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3450446

I have 4 spare national power now and way less than 30 captains. No option to hire gekkou.

>> No.3450447

>>3450441
too late, start again. It must be done before the seal is broken.

>> No.3450448

>>3450007
That's true. I was actually surprised that she didn't wear something showing off her crotch, this being an h-game and all.

>> No.3450453

>>3450447
Oh wtf i didnt even see the option previously.

>> No.3450454

>>3450448
all you need to do is move your eyes roughly one inch to the left.

>> No.3450455

That is why Uesugi Kenshin is the best.

>> No.3450456

>>3450448
there are much worse attires in Rance's saga. but most of the girls don't go to battle in a bikini armor.

>> No.3450464

What are gekkou's stats? I want to know if its worth restarting 20+ turns for him.

>> No.3450469

>>3450464
special ability giving guaranteed successful assassination if the enemy is out of fans.

>> No.3450470

I found the h-scenes incredibly lame...must be the way they are drawn...

>> No.3450474

>>3450470
story, gameplay, hot h-scenes. pick any two.

>> No.3450475

>>3450470
I actually think you're better off blaming stuff like:
>Rance takes out his hyper-weapon and shoots imperial juice.
>"Gahahaha!"

>> No.3450476

>>3450474
Pretty sure tehre are games with all 3.

>> No.3450480
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3450480

Realistic knight attire

>> No.3450481

>>3450476
name them then.

>> No.3450482

>>3450469
>>3450464
Yeah, with gekkou you can know easily what characters cannot be assassinated. He has failed only one time with a normal commander as far as I remember.

Also, If you send him alone he will win the battle, but will die. (It could be useful if you want to play against miki, but the rest of the time...)

>> No.3450489

>>3450476
you could be surprised how difficult is to find the three thing together.
Hell, even one thing well done is not that common

>> No.3450506
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3450506

>>3450464
Great Ninja stats, 6 action points along with Assassinate (can be taken to 2) and Assassinate+, and already having Shuriken 2.
Good level cap(49), Easy to character clear, and even has a 'Kamikaze' attack where he blows himself up so you can conquer an area(permanent loss though).

Finally, of the best ninja designs I have seen.
Simple, yet detailed, ninja-like and badass.
Also, has a semi-nude loli around him.

>> No.3450510

>>3450470
You are a faggot.

>> No.3450515

gekkou is a pretty good ninja, I wouldn't redo 20 turns for him though. Also if you plan to use Shizuka, give her Rances love so you can work on her pitiful speed.

>> No.3450523

Do i need to go to war with hara first before being able to recruit gekkou? Its turn 8 and i dont see any option.

>> No.3450531

>>3450523
A good idea is to conquer them by turn 3, since they are small-time.

>> No.3450535

>>3450531
By turn 3, how do you do that? You dont actually have enough negotiation power to do it.

>> No.3450536

From the other thread
>>3449745
>I'd personally choose the 'Additional character' bonus (2 good characters without starting war), either Morita Ai)warrior) or the Tactician from the Bonus Characters
The Tactician character doesn't seem all that good to me. His Battle Rating Up (all) skill is so inferior compared to Tourin's Battle Rating Up (3). Is he worth it just for the Battle Rating Down skill alone?

The Warrior didn't struck me as a particular good character. I think the Nerine look-alike diviner and that monk with action convert makes much better hax.

>> No.3450545

>>3450536
>Is he worth it just for the Battle Rating Down skill alone?

Yes. And his BRU: All is still better than your starting tactician.

The extra characters aren't the best you can ever get, but they serve well until you conquer and get better ones.

>> No.3450548
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3450548

Wheres the option to recruit gekkou here?

>> No.3450552

>>3450536
The diviner is good as well, especially early in-game.
But she can't keep up.
While the Warrior is better than Ranmaru and can be used for the permits later too(6 to stats except intelligence, shouting charge and 5 action points).
There are so few that can manipulate Battle Rating. there is no reason to not get him.

>> No.3450554

>>3450548
Maybe you need to conquer Hara.

>> No.3450556

>>3450548
Conquer them first.
It's Hara for fuck's sake, just get 5 Sat quickly.
On turn 7 and afterward, there will be a non-colored event, 'Lightning during the day'

>> No.3450557

>>3450506
Damn that seminude loli, I don't know how many times that bitch killed rance in kichikuou (and she looked like an alien.... DO NOT WANT scene)

>> No.3450560

>>3450548
Don't be stupid, conquer them.

>> No.3450568

>>3450545
>>3450552
Thanks guys. Hmmm, yeah I imagine Battle Rating Down might become extremely useful if you bump into overpowered armies.

>> No.3450581
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3450581

>>3450557
There are so many triggers, bad and good in Kichikuou, blaming the loli is unfair.

>> No.3450582

>>3450568
battle rating down + kenshin + Omachi = you cannot lose that battle

>> No.3450584

>>3450548
You need to conquer them first.
Then there will be an option called 'Lightning during the day?' that allows you to recruit him.

>> No.3450587

>>3450584
And you have to do this before turn 10 when the first gourd breaks?

>> No.3450590

>>3450581
Yeah, I know, I should have took over osaka in one turn, but XAVIER was a tough motherfucker (in the end I used miki's nuke + Satera, meglass, rance and kentarou... the demon attacks were fierce that turn)

>> No.3450592

>>3450568
It also helps you win easily while using semi-shit units.
Good in higher difficulties where you can't spread your forces too much early on.
Especially when you defend.
I won against a takeda blitz with him,4 footsoldiers(only Shibata being unique) easily, quite early on at 2-star.

>> No.3450594

>>3450587
Man, Hara is easy as hell. even without the bonus point haxes.

>> No.3450596

>>3450582
Add Uruza and Natori just for the overkill/

>> No.3450599

>>3450587
That's right.

>> No.3450600

>>3450590
Yamamoto is worth the trouble.
Xavier is more annoying then tough, compared to the Goddess Bitch that takes over the demon army and still attacks.

>> No.3450605

>>3450596
that's for demon king's route, if you want to win against kentarou and miki (well, you CAN win against Miki if you plan ahead well)

>> No.3450620

>>3450605
Doesnt miki just instantly nuke you to death when you try to rape her?

>> No.3450621

>>3450600
you can avoid the merge of the two demon sisters, if you are fast enough you can kill medusa and avoid a lot of problems, if not you can reload the turn, because it's a random event (same can be told about kapuris becoming demon king, you should avoid this if you can)

>> No.3450640

>>3450621
I know most of these things can be avoided, but here I thought normal demons attacks and Xavier were the end of me, and then suddenly these fuckers pop-up.
Made me re-evaluate my tactics.
At least, I stopped relying too much on Miki Nuke.
Though I never tried to make Rance the Demon King.

>> No.3450644

>>3450590
protip: so long as Rance doesn't tap out, he doesn't get assassinated.

>> No.3450646

How do you kill the 2 footmen in the hara castle battle fast enough? I cant even concentrate fire on one because there are 2 and they keep splitting up attacks.

>> No.3450654

>>3450646
What units do you have?

>> No.3450656

>>3450654
Default + fukka, i have enough money to upgrade rance to 300 troops and ranmaru has masamune.

>> No.3450677

>>3450640
It's really easy.
1: you let Sill be killed or don't rescue her (In my first playthrough I rescued her in the nick of time, but I also got the option in the conversation with Satera a few weeks before, I supose you can do this if you see Sill being tortured)

2: good relationship with Satera. AKA talk to her often, win against her in the duel, fuck her many times

3: first option when you see a new option talking to her, enjoy killing Miki.

>> No.3450693

>>3450677
I'm not sure if I like the prospect of fighting with Kentarou and Miki, Hawzel etc, I use them a lot.
Also, playing through the game takes quite a lot since my JP ain't that good, so I take a break.

>> No.3450698

Ive reloaded 5 times now, theres not enough time to kill all units to get the battle rating necessary to win the castle battle.

>> No.3450705
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>>3450656
then hold off until you get suzume or something

>> No.3450707

>>3450698
Try preparing the battle ground a couple times, then try the next turn.

>> No.3450711

>>3450698
Damage/Kill the targets that are vulnerable, it does wonders to your battle rating.

Alternatively see>>3450536
The tactician's Battle Rating Down skill is good for these situations as well.

>> No.3450723

wait you have items like the masamune but no extra special characters?

>> No.3450728

>>3450711
There are no real vulnerable targets, since you need to wipe out the entire battlefield to get enough battle rating...you are behind a ton.

>> No.3450731

>>3450723
I didnt have a lot of points so i went with the 20 point characters, extra action fan and a few items.

>> No.3450743

>>3450731
You should have gotten at least 1 extra character.
Only item you should REALLY get is the popularity staff.

>> No.3450748

>>3450693
It's a scene, Miki lets Rance and Satera kill her.

The problem is, a Demon king is VERY resistant, so she was slashed for a day while only crying.

After that Rance became the Demon king, bad end.

La hawzel can join you MUCH later if you beat in time Medusa, if not she will be forced to merge with her sister and will became the godess La vaswald. Then your fucked (not as much as letting Kayblis killing Miki and becoming a invincible motherfucker with 60k life points, but is possible to suffer both things, you only need for kentarou to die, that shota demon capture Miki, or something like that

>> No.3450752

>>3450743
Doesnt it say +25 to max limit but not actually giving you the troops itself?

>> No.3450756

>>3450748
Thankfully, while triggering La vaswald, I never had Kaybris becoming the Demon King.
Seems like he is the toughest motherfucker in the game.

>> No.3450760

>>3450752
It gives you the troops. Use popularity staff with Omachi since the beggining and admire her power. nothing will survive her.

>> No.3450764

>>3450752
...It gives you 20 troops per turn for free.
Give it to Shibata first, then Maria.

>> No.3450769

>>3450752
>but not actually giving you the troops itself?
It's still extremely valuable when you consider Cannon/Musket troops are expensive as well to buy.

>> No.3450782

>>3450769
With mosquets it's better the working bee, two more actions are very useful

>> No.3450789

>>3450782
Only for Yuzumi. Others rely on damage far more.

>> No.3450799

The wiki lied to me, it said only max troops -.-

>> No.3450813

sure are going through a lot just to get gekkou, probably better off getting 4 extra special characters over the "additional characters" bonus.

>> No.3450814

I use the Popularity Staff on Omachi until I gain access to the youkai lands and her dialog option. Then I upgrade to Rance's Love, and give the Popularity Staff to Yamagata Masakage.
Alternatively, Rance's Love goes well on Daidouji Komatsu. She has a high troop count but lacks the stats/skills to use those troops effectively, but with Rance's Love you can easily give her 7 Attack, Def and Speed, Warrior Attack 2, etc, and eventually add even more to her troop count (she'll get 160 more troops every 3 turns).

>> No.3450822

>>3450799
that wiki is shit
>>3450789
also for others if you equip as early as possible the bee. the lose of troops it's not that huge and you can create a useful unit with 3 or 4 actions capable of doing good damage

>> No.3450827
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3450827

Still not seeing any option to recruit Gekkou...

>> No.3450836

>>3450813
Considering you do not have many points, 20 is kinda overkill.
It's worth getting him and Shizuka since unlike other house bonuses, he does not trigger wars, but it's better to get 4 characters instead and steamroll the early parts of the game.
Later on, you will have enough points to get most shit you want.

>> No.3450837

>>3450827
try next turn, everything should be fine

>> No.3450838

>>3450799
Didn't lie. It just pointed out specifically the important feature.

And even if you only have the max number increased, it'd still be worth it.
After Maria has 1000 troops, each additional troop costs 168 gold...
Think about it, that's 3360 gold, for free, each turn... (168x20)
Nobody would pass that up...

>> No.3450847

>>3450827
it becomes available after seeing the cherry blossom event

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3450848

Turn 8, still no option to recruit him...

>> No.3450854

>>3450827
>>3450848
The suspense is KILLING ME!

>> No.3450867
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3450867

>>3450814
I gatta say, komatsu sux, the whole hojo house bonus sux in general. Komatsu comes with only three 3 action points and below average stats, there are better bushi to put the energy into. The free troops does not salvage her.

>> No.3450874

>>3450867
Do not underestimate pure numbers.
Agireda (admittedly, has better stats) can almost never die if you do her troop events.

>> No.3450883

Anyone know why I can't seem to get the Mori house bonus even after sending the family into battle together? The only thing that occurs to me is that Mori was in his ghost form.

>> No.3450887

Finally got the event on turn 12.

>> No.3450892

>>3450874

Or a few of those youkai footsoldiers with 6k+ troops.

>> No.3450897

>>3450887
oh, a bit late

>> No.3450901

>>3450867
Well... I dunno, 20 troops per turn for 50 turns makes 1000 extra troops. Those troops would be worthless with her basic stats, and most other Bushi units can't come anywhere close to her troop count.
Granted, Rance's Love is awesome enough that you might wanna put it on a better unit, that's why I usually give it to Omachi.

>> No.3450903

Buttass game.

>> No.3450916

>>3450903
I think this is the first time I see somebody type 'butass'

>> No.3450920
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3450920

Ahhh knew it.

>> No.3450926

>>3450883
I wouldn't have though Motonari being in ghost form matters. Most other events with him still happen, they just change his portrait. When you sent all four of them into battle together, did they show the event where he talks to his daughters, they state their ranks and then charge? Viewing that event and saving game is supposedly what unlocks the bonus.
Otherwise... did you finish the game? Some things require you finishing the game before they're taken into account.

>> No.3450933

>>3450901

I can see it being a waste for Omachi as she is already close to capping most of her stats (also costs 2 NP for each stat) and has little room for gaining new abilities. Pretty much the only thing to take for her is +100 troops, which is useful early in the game but less so in the end-game.

>> No.3450943

>>3450007

Mars started playing in my head as soon as I saw this thread.

>> No.3450950

>>3450943
I'm thinking of rebirth the edge

>> No.3450955

>>3450920
Damn it Katsuie, you are the best middle aged sidekick brute ever

>> No.3450972
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3450972

A lot of you may find this shocking but I don't like using any house bonuses.

Yes they are powerful but they eat up space for commanders that could be giving me SAT and rob me of some conquering houses SAT bonuses. SAT is all where it's at for me, 5th fan ASAP.

But if I was doing a point run, yea that would be different.

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>>3450972

>> No.3450985

>>3450972
What's so shocking? depending on your plan maybe it's best not to buy family bonuses

>> No.3450991

I remember now in my previous play through, towards the end in True Histrory (turn 70/80-ish) Rance suddenly started to lose his SAT points...He commented that he was annoyed or something...
What happened? And how do I avoid that?

>> No.3450988 [DELETED] 

>>3449999
> Old. I already read this on http://www.anantalk.com/ (anan = anon) last night.
Could you give more information?

>> No.3450992

>>3450985
well I imagine most players like using One Eye and Takeda to just plow through the game.

>> No.3450993

>>3450981
he's not a virgin, he has fucked his sword (it's true)

>> No.3450999

>>3450985
Shocked me.... I don't know why someone wouldn't want to start out with a team of delicious maids.

>> No.3451003

>>3450993
Not in the canon storyline, as far as I know.

>> No.3451004

>>3450991
>Sill frozen
>Rance pissed about Sill frozen

Need more help?

>> No.3451006

>>3450991
Sill gets frozen, rance gets irriated. I only lost points once though. I pretty much steamrolled the remaining shizuma house at this point...the shizuma brothers were the hardest part really. Infinite monsters was just annoying.

>> No.3451013

>>3450991
He is annoyed because Sill is frozen, I don't know if it is avoidable or not but I didn't give it a second thought since it was the endgame already

>> No.3451014

>>3450993
Damn, that makes me jealous. Nikkou + sex with her female form >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chaos so hard...

>> No.3451031

>>3450933
That's precisely why it's so good! No stats to increase, you just slap another +100 troops on her every three turns.
It's true that it's much more noticeable early on than at the end (500+100 is a 20% increase, 2000+100 is a 5% increase), but she's so freakin' good...

>> No.3451032

>>3451004
>>3451006
>>3451013
Ah, thanks.

>> No.3451048

>>3451031
do you deploy omachi with a footsoldier as a team of two

>> No.3451053

>>3451048
Guilty, I've done that quite a few times.

>> No.3451075

Hmmm, if Omachi is as awesome as you say she is, wouldn't it be best to give the the Human Headed Dog?
Then raise her army with gold the traditional way, and give popularity staff/Rance's Love to someone else.

>> No.3451079

>>3451053
I usually deploy her with a shikigami user

>> No.3451095

>>3451079
Another alternative, how about Kentarou alone in the front line, and Omachi in the back row?

(Never used omachi yet)

>> No.3451098

>>3451075
The dog bothers me.
Sure, the unit can act twice. But since it's disallowed from using other items, it's nowhere as powerful as it could be.
Between using a super Omachi once, or using a half-strengh Omachi twice... it's probably a matter of preference, but I quite enjoy seeing her kill 9000 enemy troops in one spell.

>> No.3451099

>>3451075
not at all, since her non-combat stats are 0. it's best to give that human headed dog to someone capable of doing a good fight and also useful in other activities

>> No.3451113

>>3451095
archers and ninjas can do her plenty of damage

>> No.3451114

>>3451098
>9000 enemy troops in one spell
Holy shit, looks like I need to get my dirty hands on Omachi...

>> No.3451125

>>3451114
That's with a high troop count (late in the game) and using the big spell (requires preparation but deals 3 times the damage of the small one).
Still beautiful to watch, though.

>> No.3451138

>>3451125
that thunder sounds like victory

>> No.3451161

>>3451098
>Between using a super Omachi once, or using a half-strengh Omachi twice
Yeah I see what you mean. Maybe I'll give Omachi the Staff at the beginning, then give her the Dog later. Then the Staff to someone else.

>> No.3451188

>>3451161
Sure, that works.
But like the other guy said, make sure you can use her twice per turn. Else the dog is just sitting there doing nothing, taking up the item slot she would have used during her one fight that turn.
She doesn't have noncombat stats so all she can do is fight.

>> No.3451250

That 10000 gold bonus is also tempting me. That means Asset Tech will have a better headstart, and you could gather 50000 much faster.

>> No.3451280

>>3451188
>Else the dog is just sitting there doing nothing
Hehe, yeah this happened to me on my first playthrough. I gave the Dog to Dousan. But it turned out my Army was butt kicking Shimazu anyway, and I never ever got to use Dousan... At all... Except for finding Miki asap in 1 single turn.

I'll be sure to put it into a butt-kicking unit (that I'll actually be using) this time.

>> No.3451285

>>3451250
It does give you quite a head start, especially on higher-difficulty games where money is actually tight. Unless you're in a 2-star game at least though, I wouldn't recommend it. Other items and bonuses save gold indirectly as well (preventing damage, killing opponents faster so they do less damage to you, etc).
Also, if you have two characters with Asset Tech, their bonuses stack (you still get 2k per turn max, but you only need to keep 25k to get it).

>> No.3451290

>>3451280
>and I never ever got to use Dousan... At all... Except for finding Miki asap in 1 single turn.
Oh wait, that's not entirely true, I also used Dousan in the final boss fight.

>> No.3451306

>>3451285
>Also, if you have two characters with Asset Tech, their bonuses stack (you still get 2k per turn max, but you only need to keep 25k to get it).
Wow, thanks for that info!!! That means I just changed plans to conquer Uesugi and Ashigaka asap now...

>> No.3451994

>>3450926 When you sent all four of them into battle together, did they show the event where he talks to his daughters, they state their ranks and then charge? Viewing that event and saving game is supposedly what unlocks the bonus.

Nope, probably got overwritten by an affection event between Rance and Omachi.

>> No.3452043

Huh, just sent all 4 alone together and the event is still not triggering. Guess I'll go back to an earlier save to get the bonus.

>> No.3452253

127 points, not sure what to get beyond the usual items (war fan, battle permits, pop. wand). Is it worth having 2 house bonuses, or should I just pick one to salvage NP?

>> No.3452273

>>3452253
Get all or most of the items.
Saves you action points and allows nice rewards from the dungeons(plus, healing per turn, extra gold etc).
Definitely get Additional characters bonus (since you trigger no war) and about 3 Bonus characters.
Best Family Bonus is either Mouri or One eye'd since you won't have to face them for quite a while while you conquer the rest.
Since you have a decent amount of points, you can try unlocking other bonuses(Like Takeda, defending against the blitz early) and conquer what you did not before fast (get new CGs and character clears)

>> No.3452281

>>3452273

So stick with 1 family bonus only?

>> No.3452294

>>3452281
I advice taking more if you want to do FAST conquering (point run), which also means getting Lots of troops faster (for 30000 bonus).
Since every country you choose will go at war with you otherwise. In higher difficulties(where you do your point run usually), it can be messy.
Most people get Takeda before they do serious point whoring.

>> No.3452323

>>3452294

Still trying to get Takeda bonus. No one wants to recruit them for some reason.

>> No.3452337
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3452337

Realistic samurai attire, you say?

>> No.3452342

>>3452323
Who would want guys stronger than himself?
Anyway, just have faith...

>> No.3452354

>>3452323

Still don't get what was going on there.
From the look of it, Shingen has been dead for a while? The other guys are doing Kagemusha all over again, taking turns pretending to be him?

>> No.3452365

>>3452354
Yep.
For quite a while.
When you do the 'assassinate' command, everyone sees the 4 of them AND Shingen making the statement, so they cannot reverse it without attacking Shingen or risking the deception being revealed, which would lead to chaos.

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>>3452365

That's... quite impressive. Says quite a bit about the guy. Even in death, seems Shingen still is the only thing keeping the clan firmly on its feet.

>> No.3452407

>>3452395
It's not just obeying, he is truly their hero.
Also, the comradeship between the Takeda generals is awesome on it's own.

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3452430

>>3452407

Indeed. Just that "Shingen" not only receives, but personally accepts birthday gifts from commoners way out in the bush says quite a lot. Both about him and them.

>> No.3452809

>>3450920

What a delicious outfit.

>> No.3452886
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My favorite Design is definitely Isoroku.

>> No.3452999
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Someone mention Gekkou?
Have Gekkou.

>> No.3453003
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and Shinobu.

>> No.3453026

>>3453003
>>3452999
IF you rip them yourself, get me pregant Leila, or Demon King kayblis please.
Didn't trigger them/

>> No.3453040
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>>3453026
sure thing bud

>> No.3453042

>>3453003
Why does her hair arouse me so much?

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>> No.3453058

>>3453042
Just to let you know, she has H scene too.
Yes, in the loli form, none of the grown up illusion shit like Kojika.

>> No.3453060

>>3453048
Sorry Little Princes, but a guy who has NAKED WOMEN growing as shoulder pads is just too awesome.

Thanks.

>> No.3453077

>>3453058
Her foot looked awfully weird there.

>> No.3453169
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>>3453060
and this too, left page is DK K-chan.

>> No.3453182

>>3453169
This guy just jumped on my top 5 Villain list.

>> No.3453199

>>3453182
But he's slightly retarded and has a bit of speech impediment, are you fine with that?

>> No.3453236

>>3453199
Sure, the one he kicked out was there by virtue of accomplishments only.
I'm pretty selective on my villains.

>> No.3453273

>>3453058
Post it!

>> No.3453301

>>3453273
Just get the events CGs altogether.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jn0k43dmmiw

>> No.3453349

>>3453273
>loli
>H scene

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lolwut

>> No.3453362

>>3453354
Now that is a peculiar situation.

>> No.3453699

>>3453354
What is this?

>> No.3453925

>>3453699

rance?

>> No.3453940

>>3453354
Shop, right? It always looked different to me

>> No.3453941

>>3453354
wait what?

>> No.3453946

>>3453354
Goodness, she can't fight like that!

>> No.3454039

To the guys who were worried about losing Satisfaction when Sill gets frozen:

This can be avoided if you do all of the ???? events about Sill being frozen, where he tries to thaw her. Once you do them all, Rance will realize her place in his heart and stop giving a shit about her, and you won't lose Satisfaction.

>> No.3454138

>>3453354
Yeah, this is a shoop.
Someone in 2ch shopped the monster to look like Masou Shizuka.
The name "Maso-n" is a pun too.

>> No.3454158

If I pick the One-House and extra characters option, should I bother to recruit generics, or should I just wait for the extra characters to show up? The only reason I'd want to is one has great const (7), while the other has a good scout (6).

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>>3454158
you'll probably want generics for cons/search/neg until you get uniques that will do that job

>> No.3454272

>>3454257

This reminds me: how are troop sizes determined for Leazus and Zeth commanders (i.e is there a preset range or is it based on overall troop size)?

>> No.3454302 [DELETED] 

This is the only Rance-ish thread I see up, so I'll ask here.

I pretty finished all the stuff I set out to do in the first place.
Do you have any suggestions or request?
There's a comment left for doing Rance & Sill, but I feel like doing that may take away the joy of playing the games, since it will basically chronicle the entire series.

http://sites.google.com/site/bbshut/home/rance-data

>> No.3454316

>>3454272
It's random. I found out that when I manually chose "Accept Reinforcements", Magic's troop number ranged anywhere between 600-1000...

>> No.3454320

This is the only Rance-ish thread I see up, so I'll ask here.

I pretty much finished all the stuff I set out to do in the first place.
Do you have any suggestions or request?
There's a comment left for doing Rance & Sill, but I feel like doing that may take away the joy of playing the games, since it will basically chronicle the entire series.
I may do a short one for them, as just a short summary of the games, but majority of that's been done in the Chronicle+ page already.

Maybe the Independent Cities district, with the Rance regulards (Shizuka, Maria, Athena02, etc?)

http://sites.google.com/site/bbshut/home/rance-data

>> No.3454333

>>3454320
Free Cities would work.

>> No.3454335

>>3454320
Thanks again for this awesome info, reading it now.

>> No.3454343

>>3454316

it's not. it's the average of certain fighting units who's troop count is over 500 modified by certain numbers.

>> No.3454345

Haha, oh wow. Sucks to be the hero fighting Xavier AS he turns 20. With the Holy Sword Nikkou too.

>> No.3454354

>>3454302

Damn, Gi's character description is cause for a manly tear.

>> No.3454360

>>3454320
Not many people will be able to actually play the older games, y'know.

>> No.3454430

>>3454343
Well, that modifying number must be random then, because I clearly remembered how I could reload my save game, and sometimes Magic would get 688 troop, sometimes she would get 971 troops....and things in between. I even have the save game for it.

>> No.3454445

>>3454320
I'd be interested in some background on Zeth, didn't know until recently that Rizna was delicious damaged goods... ;_;

>> No.3454452

>>3454320
Need more info about past characters.

>> No.3454570

I'll work on the Free cities region then.
This will cover the town of Custom (Shizuka, Maria), city of Toushin (Sanakia), and Rance's house (Athena02)
I may work on little summary article on Rance & Sill after that, or work on Zeth/Hellman.

Rance02 (Rance II remake) is coming out (as a part of Alice2010) in 12/18 of this year, and it features these characters from the Free Cities region.

>> No.3454606

>>3454430

lower every unit except footsoliders under 500. you should get a ton of troops

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Im bored

>> No.3454658

>>3454652
And that's the Prologue to the entire Rance series.

>> No.3454713

Does anyone else feel bad for going after the One-Eye house's character clears?

>> No.3454729

Hmm i have mamushi oil field and went past the event about the mino three already.

Yet i do not see any option to recruit anyone in the oil field...why?

>> No.3454742

>>3454729

Not enough NP to recruit most likely.

>> No.3454825

How does the asset tech skill stack? Do i need 5 guys at 4% each to reach 20%?

>> No.3454840

>>3454729

You get dousan from a satisfaction bonus

>> No.3454874

>>3454825

Asset earns a max of 2000 gold/turn based off of how much money you had the previous turn. Additional people wit Asset merely lower the amount og gold needed to be saved to earn 2000 gold (i.e, 1 person needs ~22k, 2 people would probably need >20k).

Personally, I think Merchant is the better of the two skills if you aren't keeping passives that characters come with or End-Game Points if you're doing point-runs.

>> No.3454886

>>3454874
Does asset, merchant and the +10% gold/turn statues stack?

>> No.3454889

>>3454886
Yep.

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As real as it gets baby!

>> No.3454901

>>3454272
From HF Thread:

1. Consider all your units
2. remove all foot soldiers from consideration
3. remove all units under 300 ppl from consideration
4. take the average
5. randomly choose a percentage between 60%~90%
6. multiply 4. and 5.

If the unit is a miko unit, further multiply the result by 75%


The 60%, 90%, and 75% numbers are rough estimates. The Footsoldier and the 300 ppl part are proven. Similar formula works for certain enemy defense units whose stats are (randomly) generated when you reload the battle.

>> No.3454902

>>3454890
oh god

>> No.3454906

>>3454901
Example:

1. Acquire the "General's Guards" item (+5000 troops) from the puppet guy
2. Use a non-footsoldier generic unit, and e2quip him with the item
3. get all your other non-footsoldier units to 299 ppl.
4. save.
5. recruit one non-footsoldier person via the yelllow command, keep reloading until you get near 80% of the troop of the first guy
6. Fire the first guy and eqiup the second guy with the item (second guy should now have around 9999 troops)

Now when people like Kanami, Sen Hime, Kenshin etc join you, they should have troops in the 8000's~9000's. If you keep reloading before they join, their troop size would be different (and the variation is quite big).

When you run into enemies who have 9999 troops, just reload, get all your 299 captains up to 300 ppl, reenter combat, and watch the enemy forces drop down to the low thousands! (but remember to reduce the 300's down to 299 when you are gaining a new captain).

A few captains don't work this way: namely Suzume, the very short girl who wants revenge on the Mori House, and I think Nozomi (the glasses girl with the honeys). Ppl recruited from the prison also don't work this way.

>> No.3454912

>>3454906
Prison guys have a limit of 1000 troops.

>> No.3454937

>>3454912
What? No the limit is increasable.

>> No.3454941

>>3454713
Nah. Raep the omachi, it's awwwiiight

>> No.3454977

>>3454941
Agree with this man. NTR works if you're the dude doing the action.

>> No.3454978

>>3454977
omachi got big breasts

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BTW, Sengoku Rance is the first time you get to fuck Kasumi, Maria's assistant.
She's been in the series since Rance 3.

.... and she gets no events or H CG.
Oh the injustice.

I hope we someday get a HCG for her. ;_;

>> No.3455020

>>3455013
Cannon units are fragile. Would raep tenderly.

>> No.3455022

>>3455013

Does she lube Rance's gun?

>> No.3455042

Ive heard that atk raises magic damage, and int also affects magic damage...but which is true? Anyone can read moon can give the manual a look?

>> No.3455054

>>3455042
Int should only concern magical defense and Foot Soldier skills.

>> No.3455057

>>3455022
they must be loaded. Tagenashima's bitch now remembers to load her gun before the battle

>> No.3455061

Magic and Diviner are affected by INT.

>> No.3455072

Magic damage = Base Damage + Int x 10
Magical defense = Int x 7

>> No.3455077

Second playthrough, on the very turn after i crushed the tenshi sect inukai declared war on me AGAIN.

Goddamn this is turning out like my first playthrough. I want time to go into the Nanjo ran route...

>> No.3455080

>>3455077
Try to use Suzume in the last fight.

>> No.3455084

>>3455013
Needs HCG bad.

>> No.3455088

>>3455077
Don't crush the Tenshi sect. Waste of fucking time. It's easier to deal with their rebellions.

>> No.3455097

>>3455088
Quick+5 Sat and extra NP, especially since you get no Seigan on certain routes.

>> No.3455103

>>3455097
But doing so forces you to go to war with an even more annoying Iga, which then leads to fighting the Asai. Crushing the Tenshi sect will get you dragged along and wrecking pots recklessly.

>> No.3455106

>>3455103
Actually, on 2nd playthroughs, Iga seems hesitant to declare war on me after conquering Tenshin.

>> No.3455107

>>3455103
Eh, you'll end up conquering Iga sooner or later anyway.

>> No.3455110

>>3455107
They're not as important as taking Mori over, Hojo, or Uesugi.

>> No.3455114

How do i get the option to duel Inukai?

>> No.3455115

>>3455107
Not much character clears occur with Iga being conquered though. And they can be beaten in one turn, making it easier to overwhelm them before the Demon Army can destroy them.

>> No.3455118

>>3455114
DO some events there, Search option to Ambush Inukai should appear.
Rance needs to be high level and with at least 4 actions since he brings his dogs with him.

>> No.3455132

>>3455072
>Magic damage = Base Damage + Int x 10
Is this Base Damage affected by ATK stat?

>> No.3455137

>>3455118
no less than level 50 (with this level you need a bit of luck and trying) and no less than 4 actions (3 dogs one ninja)

>> No.3455162

>>3455132
Nope, base damage is set damage, cannot be changed.

>> No.3455163

>>3455114
You need enough NP to be able to recruit him, it has to be a 2nd game, and you have to go through certain Iga events. I can't remember if the one where you have Suzume fight in an Iga battle is required or not.

>> No.3455170

>>3455162
Damn. I failed badly in my first game then. Someone told me to add ATK stat to improve mage damage ;_;

Thanks for the info though.

>> No.3455191

>>3455162
So basically, Mage damage is based on troop count, plus a tiny bonus from Int... and the target's Int reduces the damage further?
Disappointing. Explains why I've always tended to stay away from Mage units aside from Shizuka.

>> No.3455201

If i duel inukai do i get sastification bonus?

>> No.3455202

>>3455191
Whats so good about shizuka?

>> No.3455207

>>3455201
Nope.
And despite his good stats, you lack special skills due to preselected Wan-Wans.
However, for a few events, his character clear and allowing you to do the 6 treasures event, it's worth to try it once.

>> No.3455214

>>3455202
Sticky Ground.
Much greater chance of capturing enemy units (Since you can't hit everything with a Light Attack).
Plus, already has White Destruction.
You can get her quite early on too.

>> No.3455223

>>3455202
She's probably the best of the three mages, aside from not being able to get 10 Sat from her. She's also the only one of the three that is decently usable right when you get her.

>> No.3455225

>>3455191
It's not all that bad. That's how it works for everything.

For example, normal attack units are:
Attack power = base damage + ATKx10
Defense = base defense + DEFx8

The damage calculations are the same, it's just that mages have very low defense since the base defense isn't added in, and it's only int x 7

>> No.3455227

>>3455214
Her speed is too slow, by the time her second action comes up its too late.

>> No.3455229

>>3455227
Why use second action and risk being attacked?
White Destruction with full troop count.

>> No.3455232 [DELETED] 

>>3455227
Do you not put a diviner shield on your casters?
With ashigaru + diviner shield, you can prevent your casters from getting interrupted/damaged

>> No.3455231

>>3455229
Then you cant use sticky ground.

>> No.3455240

>>3455231
It's not like Defeated Warrior hunt.Raises OVERALL chances.

>> No.3455243

>>3455231
Are you serious?
Sticky Ground is passive. You don't use it, it just works on its own.

>> No.3455245

>>3455240
What the hell does that mean?

>> No.3455251

>>3455245
It raises the chance that the captured enemy will be wearing overalls.

>> No.3455255

>>3455245
You do know that you can capture units without Light attack and Defeated warrior hunt, right?
As long as you defeat them.
Sticky raises those chances.
IIRC, stacks with Defeated Warrior hunt.

Remember, the more prisoners you have, the lower teh chances get.

>> No.3455284

Oda, ashikaga and iga seals are broken...to get to houjou i need to capture tokugawa...does this mean i cant actually get into the nanjo ran route now, since i need to finish the dungeon before 5 seals are broken?

>> No.3455294
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The main page of Free Cities is up now, working on the characters now, starting with Shizuka, my love.

>> No.3455295

>>3455284
Suggested Nanjo Ran path:
Hara, Ashikaga, miko, Tokugawa, Imagawa, Hojo(ignore Asai Asakura even if they declare).
Before you break the final Gourd, dealing with Tanegashima and Tenshin is also valid.

>> No.3455300

Oh doh, made mystake on that image.
It should be Rance II, III, IV instead of I, II, III

>> No.3455306

>>3455284
Tokugawa doesn't have a gourd. You've still wasted one (arguably two), but it doesn't really matter all that much for Ran's route since there are aren't any difficult army battles other than the Shimazu blitz. You could just never conquer Mori and completely ignore them if you really wanted.

>> No.3455333

What does the "levy" option do? It seems to just give me free money/items, but are there downsides?

>> No.3455336

>>3455333
I spent my entire two first playthroughs not doing levies. I thought I'd get riots and stuff.
You get gold (up to 5000 if you wait), a basic stat book (no Speed or Action books though), and increase your Ero Diary count.
No downside.

>> No.3455340

Slightly offtopic, but how long do you guys think beta testing stages usually take? <.<

>> No.3455353

>>3455336
Same here, thought it would piss off the people, but i guess rance is immune to it

>> No.3455395

Should i get tokugawa to join me or princess sen?

>> No.3455397

>>3455395
Furry vs Delicious Princess...

WHY ARE YOU EVEN ASKING?

>> No.3455415

>>3455395
KOS-MOS >>>>>>>> stupid tempra eating racoons

>> No.3455436

What is a hanny?

>> No.3455460

>>3455436
It's English slang for "Haniwa", they're traditional Japanese clay potteries, the "standard" model being shaped like... well... like hannies.

>> No.3455492

>>3455460
Whyt are they invulnerable to magic?

>> No.3455493

more like ancient, actually.
It was a culture from 3rd century through 6th.

>> No.3455500

>>3455492
Because they are. No reason behind it, that's thier characteristics.

It was actually a retcon.... Hannies from Rance I~IV & Kichikuoh wasn't invulurable to magic.
That got introduced in Kaerunyo Panyon, and later retconned into Rance series as well.

>> No.3455503

Does every captain have a different base damage/defense or is it dependant on troop type?

>> No.3455505

Should i give shizuka the tatics scroll(+2 int, wil bump her up to 8 int) or the ryuuga sword(+100 damage)?

>> No.3455516

>>3455505
Give her my heart.

I should do a section on Hannies.

>> No.3455517

>>3455505
Since the +100 damage sword works on every attack and in dungeon battles, I'd give it to a fast character with many actions (like a Ninja).
The Scroll is relatively worthless if you don't have an Ashigaru who's low on Int, so I guess a Mage would be the best character to equip it to.

>> No.3455524

>>3455517
I can give it to senhime with base 5 int. That would be better.

But doesnt the ryuuga sword affect magic attacks too?

>> No.3455532

>>3455524
It does. It's just that Mages attack only once or twice per fight, so the sword would add only 100 or 200 damage total for that fight.
In the hands of a Ninja it would add 400 or 500.

>> No.3455542

>>3455532
Mmm but whats the best way to up damage for mages?

>> No.3455565

>>3455542
Far as I can tell, only troop count and Int affects their damage (and Int doesn't do much).
The +50 claw or +100 sword would work too, but they're better used by faster characters.
In short, there's not a lot you can do besides hire more mage troops or use an item that adds troops (Popularity Staff, Rance's Love).

>> No.3455598

I just got the event where the hojou girl tripped.

What happens if i rape her?

>> No.3455625

>>3455598
War.

>> No.3455631

Thread is on autosage. Sadness ensues.
But fear not. New one here:
>>3455620

>> No.3455661

>>3455294
knowing that Shizuka and Kanami are two of the three fated girls of Rance, who's the third one? Sill?

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