What is your general opinion about writefags and drawfags on /jp/?

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Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 14:47:12 No.3382079 [Reply] [Original]

What is your general opinion about writefags and drawfags on /jp/?

>>	littlewitch !ponpoNB7VQ Wed, Sep 16, 2009 14:49:12 No.3382087 I write all the time, but I don't really show anyone so I don't think it counts. People who can draw are fine. What a question.

>>	Anonymous ‮～ᚻᛟᛟᛟᛟᚩᛗ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Wed, Sep 16, 2009 14:50:12 No.3382094 I think if you call yourself a fag, you have some self-esteem issues. (Or are gay, I guess.)

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 14:51:12 No.3382096 >>3382087 My opinion on this guy is he's a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 14:51:12 No.3382098 >>3382094 This ones a fag too.

>>	littlewitch !ponpoNB7VQ Wed, Sep 16, 2009 14:53:12 No.3382110 >>3382096 I wish people could just call each other faggots like this. All of this "Hi I'm a canadafag videogameplayingfag drawfag eatingfag inbedfag laptopfag" nonsense sucks.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 14:56:12 No.3382130 >>3382110 Tripfaggot!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 14:57:12 No.3382132 If you aren't gay, get out of /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 14:57:12 No.3382136 My opinion is that we don't have enough skilled artists on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 14:59:12 No.3382151 I'm a drawfag, but I don't draw often. Motivation issues etc, shit too.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 14:59:12 No.3382152 Drawfags I don't mind as long as they keep it in one thread and/or make awesome images relevant to the topic being discussed. Writefags can go back to THP or whatever other shithole they crawled out from.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:04:12 No.3382175 >>3382132 I'm not gay. What are you gonna do about it, FAGGOT?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:05:12 No.3382183 Writefags and drawfags are fucking awesome. I wish they would contribute more content.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:06:12 No.3382189 >>3382175 Call you a gay nigger from outer space, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:06:12 No.3382190 Decent writefags are oddly rarer than decent drawfags. Or maybe I'm biased. I like them unless they're writing something along the lines of Half Life: Full Life Consequences. Actually, I'd like them more if they could do that.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:06:12 No.3382191 Writefags died when YWUIG was b&. Good drawfags don't seek attention while bad ones are dubbed as attention whores (and rightfully so.)

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:10:12 No.3382206 Writefags and drawfags should unite forces to create VNs.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:13:12 No.3382218 >>3382206 We'd also need a composer or five.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:15:12 No.3382226 They, sometimes, provide original content, and original content is always a good thing. In other words, they're cool faggots, I wuv them.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:16:12 No.3382230 >>3382206 It won't work on imageboard, someone has to set up a better meeting place.

>>	None !4Ruskia3xU Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:16:12 No.3382232 >>3382218 Judging by the past music threads in /jp/, that wouldn't be too hard to find.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:17:12 No.3382236 >>3382218 /jp/ doesn't have any good composers.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:18:12 No.3382240 >>3382236 Are you new or was that sarcasm?

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:18:12 No.3382243

>>3382206
/jp/ has low attention span, VN projects don't fly.

What I can see working is a game with VN elements that can be completed within a week, like I don't know, an Arkanoid clone where you are a rapist, the blocks you clear are the hymen of the girl you're violating and the ball you bounce around is your dick.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:19:12 No.3382244 >>3382240 Sorry for having high standards.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:20:12 No.3382247 >>3382244 I hope to God you don't listen to anything put out by any of the music industries of the world. Otherwise, a lie like that would be terrible enough to create Hell from nothing just for you.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:22:12 No.3382252 >>3382243 Hmm, yes, taking very small steps at the start is essential.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:24:12 No.3382262 File: 80 KB, 455x455, 1248861069974.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3382230 /jp/ project? >>3382218 I can compose, if you think my music isn't completely shitty.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:27:12 No.3382271 >>3382247 Relax, not everyone is going to like your music. Everyone has their own taste.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:31:12 No.3382288 Arkanoid clone? Highly Responsive to Prayers remake please.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:34:12 No.3382301

>>3382243
A VN like OMGWTFOTL could be potentially completed in about 2 weeks. Based on past /jp/ projects, people are focused for about a month before laziness sets in.

It isn't impossible, but too many project ideas are too ambitious and end up killing themselves, or taking months to get anywhere.

>>	None !WEEABooXS6 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 15:38:12 No.3382320 range from indifference to rage.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:09:12 No.3382673 File: 65 KB, 600x392, 1241599190996.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3382301 Well, Katawa Shoujo also started out that way. And as much as you like to troll it, you have to admit that it's a successful project.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:12:12 No.3382689 >>3382673 It's not successful until they finish.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:12:12 No.3382691 >>3382673 get out KS devs

>>	CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:13:12 No.3382697 >>3382673 >incomplete garbage >successful I don't think so, Tim.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:14:12 No.3382704 >>3382691 >>3382691 This thread just died. Goodbye, thread. It was nice knowing you.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:16:12 No.3382713 >>3382262 /jp/ project is laughably bad and lead by that mugen faggot. Drawfag here. I made a thread once and it went well, but /jp/ seems to look down on a lot of things.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:17:12 No.3382720 >>3382704 m-maybe if we report it enough!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:17:12 No.3382723 >>3382673 They wasted about a year and a half, and ultimately the staff that got stuff done weren't really from /a/. I apologize for continuing this off-topic discussion, let's keep to general opinions about writers and drawers on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:19:12 No.3382728 I'd like a thread for all /jp/ ORIGINAL CONTENT to exist at all times.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:19:12 No.3382729 What about drawfag threads? How often is "too often"? There's probably a split between "It's for original content, finally!" and "It's for attention whores."

>>	CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:20:12 No.3382730 Waifu is a drawfag so I approve of drawfags.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:21:57 No.3382739 >>3382079 Needs glasses. > Save the English language on the Internet: http://www.anonta[removethis]lk.com/ICARE

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:23:12 No.3382749 >>3382729 >Too often. Yeah, because drawfag threads are more offensive for the board than, say, the tired Japanese bird repost, rite?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:24:12 No.3382756 >>3382749 Knowing /jp/, you really never know.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:30:12 No.3382779 Japanese bird is a time-honored tradition. Drawfag threads are the opposite of tradition and must be opposed.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:34:12 No.3382784 >>3382779 that's stupid. even for a troll

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:41:12 No.3382804 File: 807 KB, 1024x768, 11fe6c5d4327d7e9ad7885a37404bfdb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I generally don't read drawfag threads as they usually aren't very interesting. I do read music and generic original content threads, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:49:12 No.3382822 Japan/General, not Wapanese Affronts To Art And Literature/General. Just because you write and draw about Japanese shit doesn't make your own shit Japanese and on-topic.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 17:54:12 No.3382835 >>3382822 >implying Japan doesn't offend art and literature

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:01:12 No.3382852 >>3382079 Something about those hips. Is it the combination of big tits and small hips? I keep scrolling past this thread only to come back to it just to look at this Komachi picture again. ARGH.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:02:12 No.3382854 >>3382822 Drawing about japanese stuff is on topic An image board isn't restricted to images stolen from other places.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:03:12 No.3382861 >>3382854 Just shut up and lie about your nationality, it's quicker than arguing this.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:05:12 No.3382870 >>3382861 lol wat. Take it easy bro.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:05:12 No.3382871 drawfag here writefags are losers.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:10:12 No.3382881 Drawfag thread needs more pictures

>>	HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:10:12 No.3382882 >>3382852 Looks like she's just about ready to take down that little girl in Waterworld. And regardless of what the sci-fi turkey claims, even if you are a nameless amphibian Kevin Costner, Komachi most certainly can find you.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:20:12 No.3382909 That is a really cute picture of Komachi.

>>	littlewitch !ponpoNB7VQ Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:23:12 No.3382917 Large /jp/ projects are doomed to failure, just get into small clans and work. A solid pair of writer / drawer sounds cute.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:27:12 No.3382931 I like the music threads. Possibly my greatest aspiration in life is one day working on a collaboration with one or more of the /jp/ musicians. It'll be like we're really japanese

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:37:12 No.3382965 >>3382917 Just like Type-Moon!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:46:12 No.3382989 I would say absolutely anything constructive would be an improvement over the usual whiny-bitching that /jp/ usually sounds like. Yes even roleplay threads would be an improvement.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:46:12 No.3382991 >>3382931 What kind of collaboration? Like making a song together? I'd be up for it, but I'm going to sleep in a couple minutes.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:50:12 No.3382999 There are actually some drawfags and writefags on /bun/, but with all the board hate I don't know if there will be interest.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:50:12 No.3383000 Can someone post some /jp/ musician music examples? I am new and have not heard any. Searching the archive poorly just got a bunch of threads about people learning to play instruments, which was interesting in its own way.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:53:12 No.3383011 >>3382991 Yeah that sort of thing. From what I gather 2channel do this kind of thing, with different people supplying lyrics or working with vocaloid, playing instruments etc. I always thought that would be a load of fun

VDZ !!qQsbb3WhtFl Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:54:12 No.3383015
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>>3383000
Recently uploaded my newest album (if you can call it that) to YouTube:
01. The Distance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2aEsBkGoCk
02. Height: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNEH_eWxCVk
03. Rain of Guitars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Oood05wwU
04. Hybrid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3wYdzt53Gk
05. Stuck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FV0SMa10lU
06. Because: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNuoEnzVtWo
07. 024: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gny_oZkZaaY
08. Endless: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxaKMKFlx1E
09. Noisebox: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-m9C6r1Ir4
10. Darkness Inversion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdzQDsaMEG8
11. Clouds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YnyY5v-JM8

More /jp/-related are my crappy Karma rearrangement ( http://www.tindeck.com/listen/nnvk ) and my crappy Sono me dare no me remix ( http://www.tindeck.com/listen/qmyg ) I made 4 and 5 months ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:55:12 No.3383019 We don't really have drawfags here, and writing fantasies topics got chased off.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:55:12 No.3383020 >>3383015 Fucking streams.

>>	VDZ !!qQsbb3WhtFl Wed, Sep 16, 2009 18:58:12 No.3383027 >>3383020 http://www.last.fm/music/VDZ/Infinity But I figured most people here would be too lazy to actually download the songs when they could just stream them.

>>	Cyrus !!abIc2O8kqZb Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:01:12 No.3383036 I write alot but I only do original stuff. I can't write fanfiction because I always end up butchering the characters. I think that my writing is shit so I wouldn't post it on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:04:12 No.3383044 >>3383027 I can tolerate anything streamed, just not music. I prefer listening to my music in its highest quality even when sampling them. Also, this stuff kicks much ass. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:07:12 No.3383054 >>3383036 C'mon, show us Cy. Just a little bit?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:07:12 No.3383056 Writing is fun. I do it on a whim when I see a picture I like, and base the story on it Wish I could draw, though.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:09:12 No.3383063

Writefags are fine with me. I'm a writefag, but I rarely get more than a few pages before deciding that my idea is crap.

My most recent idea is the question of Mokou's experiences before coming to Gensokyo--the 1200 or so years in which she canonically wandered the Earth. I can imagine there's got to be something interesting one can write about that... maybe a bit of historical fiction.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:10:12 No.3383068

I've been writing for thirteen years. Yeah, since I was twenty. I can't draw worth shit, though.

It really makes me cringe when someone posts any kind of writing and someone on /jp/ goes "Oh, sounds good, I liked how you X" when it actually fucking SUCKS. Godamn. I've read novels, short stories and professional work before and I know what sounds good and what's steaming pile of shit. Don't listen to people who never read western novels and are only used to slap-happy slapstick anime humor. Fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:11:12 No.3383078 >>3383068 Fuck, I meant "and I'm twenty, now." Jesus. Making such a horrible typo probably makes me credibility a lot weaker. Irony.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:12:12 No.3383079 What constitutes a writefag? Are you referring to fanfics, or tl;dr essays hating on feminazi's and stuff?

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:13:12 No.3383083

>>3383063
>>I rarely get more than a few pages before deciding that my idea is crap.

Have you ever been to a writing workshop? EVERYONE who writes experiences that feeling. Unfortunately writing involves a shitload of rewriting, editing and rewriting again.

Also fuck your fanfiction shit. Fanfiction is nothing short of stealing other people's characters. Fuck you.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:13:12 No.3383085

>>3383068

People inherently have lower standards for fiction within $favoritefandom because, obviously, majorly skilled writers aren't going to get involved.

I'm pretty much fine with a story as long as it's readable and has a half-decent plot. Obviously, it's not really good literature, but it's readable. If it can keep me reading until the end, it's good enough.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:14:12 No.3383088 I'm not posting any music I've made until I've figured out how to make it not sound like the equivalent of a crudely drawn ms-paint. >>3383068 Writing quality doesn't matter much compared to wish fulfillment.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:15:12 No.3383093

>>3383083

Of course I have. I used to write science fiction short stories for fun.

>Also fuck your fanfiction shit. Fanfiction is nothing short of stealing other people's characters. Fuck you.

Just like every single Touhou fan album ever released is "stealing" ZUN's music? People like you are why we don't have any good fanworks in the West.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:16:12 No.3383098
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>>3383036
You shouldn't be afraid of changing the characters, when you write its your interpretation of touhou. The characters, the setting, the back-story, ultimately it should all rest on you.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:17:12 No.3383099 >>3383093 Also, doujinshi

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:21:12 No.3383114 >>3383083 I don't like fanfiction; however, "stealing" skills and styles have always been done in everything and is an essential process to grow and bloom your own unique style.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:21:12 No.3383115 >>3383093 Don't worry, he's one of the "fanfiction is bad bad when Westerners do it, but great when Japanese do it" weeaboos. Just ignore him.

>>	Cyrus !!abIc2O8kqZb Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:39:12 No.3383201 >>3383054 I would but I have never completed a story. >>3383098 I never looked at it that way.

>>	Anonymous ‮～ᚻᛟᛟᛟᛟᚩᛗ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:42:12 No.3383221 >>3383027 This is actually quite nice. GJ.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:43:12 No.3383229 >>3383114 That's why imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Because it works and because it recognizes the talents of your predecessors.

|Sh@de-Sp@ce| !!5wGzHtttPnv Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:44:12 No.3383234

Reading over certain plot synopses in the /jp/ project forums are simply unbearable. KS had a good initial impact in how it broadened interest, but too many people seem afraid of taking on a legitimate project. Joke ideas and adaptations are fine, but who really cares? Writers who are unafraid to start a project on scale with a Nasu or Ryukishi07 work are the only ones that can hope to give English VN production any credibility.

It's up to you writers of /jp/. Create while the potential is there and make it something worth creating.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:44:12 No.3383238 >>3383201 It's impossible to write touhous out of character, they don't have any to begin with. Don't worry about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:44:12 No.3383241 >>3383221 I like it as well. Pretty decent stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:46:12 No.3383248 >>3383234 A man who moves a mountain starts by carrying away small stones. We can't just jump into a major VN project; we need to cultivate writers through simpler efforts first.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:47:12 No.3383255 >>3383027 Your song "The Cyberharvest" that's on tindeck is fantastic

>>	Cyrus !!abIc2O8kqZb Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:49:12 No.3383264 >>3383238 I'll try my hand at touhou fanfiction sometime. Just to test the waters.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:51:12 No.3383268 >>3383264 Kickarse man! I await your results~

|Sh@de-Sp@ce| !!5wGzHtttPnv Wed, Sep 16, 2009 19:59:12 No.3383313

>>3383248

You're argument is far from invalid and may hold especially so for other participants of a VN project such as programmers and storyboarders, but writing specifically isn't an aspect that needs to be worked out in production stages.

I wouldn't even think of gathering people for a project before having a cemented theme/idea, an full outline and a demonstration of maybe the first 15% of the actual script. Writing should be open to discussion and change amongst group members, but the writer himself has most of the work to do on their own. In this way miniature "stepping stone" projects are unnecessary for writers who can hone their skills outside a production situation.

|Sh@de-Sp@ce| !!5wGzHtttPnv Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:02:12 No.3383326

You're argument is far from invalid and may hold especially so for other participants of a VN project such as programmers and storyboarders, but writing specifically isn't an aspect that needs to be worked out in production stages.

I wouldn't even think of gathering people for a project before having a cemented theme/idea, an full outline and a demonstration of maybe the first 15% of the actual script. Writing should be open to discussion and change amongst group members, but the writer himself has most of the work to do on their own. In this way miniature "stepping stone" projects are unnecessary for writers who can hone their skills outside a production situation.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:05:12 No.3383340 >>3383313 I'm saying moreso that the western community as a whole should focus on producing small content before they go for the big content--we don't even have a significant output of doujins, fanfiction, or fanart--let alone visual novels.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:07:12 No.3383352 >>3383340 You mean fanart and fanfiction for things YOU LIKE. Naruto is anime too, whether you like it or not.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:08:12 No.3383356 >>3383352 I'm talking about the Western Touhou community, not the Western faggot community.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:11:12 No.3383368 >>3383356 Are you saying touhou fans aren't faggots? Pretty blatantly false.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:17:12 No.3383393

>>3383340
While I agree that a project on /jp/ should start small (with the notable failures as evidence of this) I don't think it's necessarily a western thing, but a 4chan thing.

I followed all of the OC threads on /jp/ that I saw. I don't do anything myself and don't find most of the art interesting, but it was nice to see people actually fucking DOING something. Some people, I don't know how many and it honestly doesn't matter since they're the 'loudest', completely disagree and will troll any such thread as soon as they see it. I'm not about to talk about such trolling being disheartening or anything (suck it up. That is all) but it's certainly annoying as fuck and hinders productivity. Then there's the whole anon vs attention whoring thing, where people can't decide if they should work in an anonymous fashion to avoid attention whoring or use names and a forum because it's a lot easier to keep track of shit when you have someone's name and a more permanent form of communication than an imageboard thread that lasts 12 hours.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:22:12 No.3383409 >drawfag thread > 0 drawings in this thread son I am disappointed at you

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:23:12 No.3383413 >>3383409 >writefags and drawfags on /jp/ Dual wieldan thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:25:12 No.3383424 I see a lot of anons claiming to be drawfags, yet very little evidence. Someone make a goddamn drawthread.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:27:12 No.3383433 >>3383409 The thread is asking for opinions about writefags and drawfags, not for said people to contribute stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:30:12 No.3383441 >>3383433 Who cares, contribute some stuff anyway.

|Sh@de-Sp@ce| !!5wGzHtttPnv Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:32:12 No.3383446

>>3383340
>>3383393

Feasible, but the major problem is that there isn't a demand for English production of those types of media. Fanart doesn't need to be translated and since doujins are not major translation projects translation are not exceedingly rare. Sage anon has pretty much captured the argument to western fanfiction... the way it's done here has it's own set of problems.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:32:12 No.3383449 I tried joining a /jp/ project but it devolved into faggotry within the first five minutes. Also a guy who can't capitalize was chosen as head writer, feels good man

>>	Anonymous ‮～ᚻᛟᛟᛟᛟᚩᛗ ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Wed, Sep 16, 2009 20:58:12 No.3383517 >>3383449 Haha.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 21:10:12 No.3383553 >>3383449 So... is it time to play "guess the project"?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 21:18:12 No.3383592 >>3383553 Heavy metal girl madonna

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 21:34:12 No.3383656 drawfag reporting in. Usually I'm just too lazy.

>>	(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ BOOF ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Wed, Sep 16, 2009 21:39:01 No.3383686 File: 36 KB, 614x614, 1252778557126.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >drawfags

>>	(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ BOOF ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Wed, Sep 16, 2009 21:40:12 No.3383696 File: 36 KB, 614x614, suika.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >drawfags sup.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 22:01:12 No.3383802 Like everything, if its good, great. If its shit, keep it to yourself. But, potential writefags, please dont do fanfictions, just original work, ok?

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 22:05:12 No.3383813

>>3383802

But whenever I try to do an original scenario, I get bogged down in where I want it to go and I lose interest. Fanfiction is a lot easier for me because all the pieces are there and you just have to put them together. It's like modding a car instead of building it from scratch; sure it's not as good, but it's a lot easier.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 22:11:12 No.3383835 >>3383813 If its for practice, i find it better to adaptate something. I take a novel, and i write a play. But, comon, do you want to grow up, be fifty years old, and remember you wrote fanfiction?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 22:12:12 No.3383839 >>3383835 I don't see how that's much worse than remembering that I used to watch anime and be a shutin.

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>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 22:16:12 No.3383852 It doesn't matter what anybody thinks about drawfags and writefags, all that matters is that janitors will delete it as soon as they get back from school or wake up.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 22:18:12 No.3383864

>>3383839
haha, like i wont be that when im 50.
Luckly i will even be alive, if i dont kill my self as soon as i officially drop college and lose the money my country gives me (i can do nothing for three years and still get it, so i will probably do 1 or 2 classes a year to extend it 8 years)

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 22:23:12 No.3383886

>sure it's not as good, but it's a lot easier.
This.

Since a lot of people posting don't have a ton of confidence, it wouldn't hurt to work with existing characters, settings, etc to get better at it.

There is nothing wrong with writing fanfiction.
There is nothing wrong with writing bad [fan]fiction.
The problem comes when you write something bad, insist it's good (whether or not you believe it yourself; although actually believing a piece of shit is good is significantly worse), and demanding attention for it.

Stop being afraid that trying to do something creative will immediately turn you into a gaia/DA level retard. Write/Draw/do whatever the hell you want, just don't be blind to your own faults. As long as you can do that you'll be fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 22:30:12 No.3383906 >>3383842 Nice work. Guess I should try to do some drawing before the day's over.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 22:32:12 No.3383911 File: 30 KB, 800x600, 1252692482716.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I liked the choose your own adventures with pictures.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 22:45:12 No.3383943

>>3383886
This is pretty much true.

I have the occasional piece in the Globe & Mail (lol milk bags), but I still write fanfiction in a fairly constant stream.

At least for me, the main problem with being a writefag is that I work well with structure, but I don't trust anyone enough to provide that. Whenever I try something noticeably longer than, say, 5-10k words, I inevitably get bogged down in organizing the storyboard and the text, fooling with the coding, being ronery about working alone, etc. That's not a job that a random can fill.

Maybe this is unique for me, but having a real editor works wonders in getting shit done, and it's a tough job.

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:12:12 No.3384082

I like seeing people post their fiction, their art, and their music. Also you writebros need to stop being so scared and start letting people read at what you write. That's the only way you're going to get better.

>>3382931
>>I like the music threads. Possibly my greatest aspiration in life is one day working on a collaboration with one or more of the /jp/ musicians. It'll be like we're really japanese

Any ideas for a song? I'm seriously down for something like this. Starting next week anyways.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:34:12 No.3384211 i used to draw alot of touhous, thats because i was encouraged by contest, or request. its hated here for some reason. oh well.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:35:12 No.3384217 >>3384082 Fuck off you fucking piece of shit.

>>	Harblong Cassidy !KzfKdB2Xmc Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:35:12 No.3384220 File: 5 KB, 331x426, iamextremelycute.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lord knows I draw a mean Tooey

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:36:12 No.3384230 >>3384220 the head sort of reminds me of a carrot

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:37:12 No.3384236 >>3384220 moar

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:40:12 No.3384259 >>3384217 Why not channel your frustations into a productive hobby or something? You know how Bob Ross used to always beat the devil out his paint brush? That can work if you're an art bro.

>>	Harblong Cassidy !KzfKdB2Xmc Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:40:12 No.3384260 File: 4 KB, 296x282, endless pleasure.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3384236 Isn't she kawaii

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:42:12 No.3384276 >>3384259 Fag.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:44:12 No.3384287 File: 45 KB, 640x480, hilarious-reaction-image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3384259 >ZUN !barYV1VtIA

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:46:12 No.3384299 I think... mugen is a pretty cool guy...

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:48:12 No.3384310 >>3384299 He draws the shittiest "guro" I've ever seen.

>>	(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ BOOF ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:48:12 No.3384316 >>3384299 fuck yeah he is.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:50:12 No.3384325 >>3384276 We should get some /jp/ bros and girlbros to sing for our music collaboration. >>3384287 Why are you so moe, Dawson Anon?

>>	(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ BOOF ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:51:12 No.3384338 >>3384325 dibs on tenor

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 16, 2009 23:53:12 No.3384348 vocaloids would probably sound better than /jp/'s singing

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:02:12 No.3384399 File: 101 KB, 640x480, 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3384325 Why are you after my dick, ZUN?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:05:12 No.3384415 >>3384399 I'm after your dick grabs dick

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:06:12 No.3384416 >>3384325 I have good pitch, but I can't sing worth a damn.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:06:12 No.3384421 YWUIG was a fucking terrible piece of shit, and was proof that an alarming amount of people here have no taste at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:14:12 No.3384446 >>3384421 It was frightening how much better they said they were than gaiafags and the like and then they lap that shit up.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:23:12 No.3384486

>>3384446

YWUIG was just a proof of concept. I actually hated the thing because it was so fucking retarded.

To say that all fanfiction/CYOA is like YWUIG would be like saying that a Mercedes is just as shitty as a Gremlin because they're both cars.

But then again, Anonymous has a surprising tendency to like shitty things, like Japanese Bird, Hoopdog, Bawson, A-alice, and such. So really, I don't blame you.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:23:12 No.3384487 >>3384421 Taste is subjective. I don't see you contributing original content. I don't like idols nor their threads, but I'll be damned if I can't understand why some people like them.

>>	mugenjohncel !!Oy+LavZ+kRU Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:23:12 No.3384488 So umm... can I join this thread?...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:26:12 No.3384501 >>3384487 >I don't see you contributing original content. >Anonymous How do you know?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:28:12 No.3384521 >>3384421 >YWUIG What's that?

>>	Harblong Cassidy !KzfKdB2Xmc Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:31:12 No.3384544 >>3384521 You Wake Up in Gensokyo sorry but I liked it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:33:12 No.3384551 >>3384486 I wish to read arc's cyoa, set in the darkest gensokyo ever devised: ZUN gensokyo.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:40:12 No.3384588 Bad original content is still better than no original content at all. And Sturgeon's Law says that 90% of everything is shit. So you have to have lots of shit to have anything good. YWUIG was a good thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:40:12 No.3384593 >>3384551 ZUN'S GENSOKYO IS HARDLY DARK. IT'S ALMOST RAINBOWS AND DAISIES.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:43:12 No.3384612 >>3384593 QFT. Canon Gensokyo is basically happy-go-lucky slice of life fantasy. But, of course, nothing says we can't fanon it up with GRIM DARK if we want.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:46:12 No.3384642
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>>3384612
>>3384593
>>3384551

Actually ZUN's gensokyo is pretty fucking grim and dark in the old-school days.

It's just nowadays that he retconned the fuck out of everything.

Anonymous of Canada !pkzejWGkfw Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:46:12 No.3384645

Writefag, wish I could draw.

I have to agree with the other guys, lack of confidence is what keeps me from posting more of what I do. Plagued by the sense that it's not good enough and needs yet another revision, until I convince myself to shelf the whole concept altogether. Sometimes I do post something on a whim only to regret it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:47:12 No.3384647 >>3384544 You don't have to be. If you like something don't let other people tell you otherwise, there will always be people that are trolling.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:47:12 No.3384653 File: 84 KB, 408x773, tuberculosis-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If any writefags feel like joining a project, take a look at the Virus VN if you'd like. We're looking for a more active staff since the last one went dodo.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:49:12 No.3384674

Also, if I was going to do a CYOA, I'd do one in which you're on a mission to fuck everyone in Gensokyo, and the place is full of big-breasted sluts, and sexy lolis who cocktease you all the time.

I call it SLUTSOKYO: THE EPIC ADVENTURE or, HOW BEST TO TITFUCK YUUKA

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:49:12 No.3384679 >>3384642 Yeah, I know, I wasn't being sarcastic at all. It's not like a cyoa in it would take long to write, every choice leads to BAD END.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:50:12 No.3384684 >>3384645 Post it without a tripcode. You don't have to worry about reputation if you just post things anonymously.

>>	Orochi !UWAAAAAA.. Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:51:12 No.3384690 How do other drawfags do it? Do they just use paint? or is there some sort of magical program online that does it quickly?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:52:12 No.3384693 >>3384674 FUND IT

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:52:12 No.3384699 >>3384674 >>3384693 I really can't stand /jp/ at times.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:54:12 No.3384709 >>3384690 SAI and a wacom.

Anonymous of Canada !pkzejWGkfw Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:56:12 No.3384727

>>3384690
Sai

>>3384684
It's not for the reputation, it's for that "in the cold light of morning" realization that you suck. Trying to avoid that, you start second guessing yourself and there goes the whole idea...
I do post as anonymous anyway, tripcodes get tiresome.

>>3383943
I would like to hear more, if you're still around.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 00:57:12 No.3384735 >Do they just use paint? This is what's wrong with most drawfags. /jp/ moves slowly, so feel free to put a bit more effort in your drawings.

>>	Orochi !UWAAAAAA.. Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:00:12 No.3384760 >>3384735 I'm more of a pencil artist, drawing with a tablet is strange, but I want to at least try to get better with it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:04:12 No.3384782 >>3384760 >I'm more of a pencil artist Likewise, but at least you can erase as many times as you want for digital drawing. As usual, everything comes with practice.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:05:12 No.3384785

>>3384727

Here's the way I found to deal with that.

1. Get an idea in your head that will make for a relatively complete short story, or at least a very solid start. In other words, you should have the full concept in your head before starting. Example in this case: "Mokou and Kaguya forget why they are fighting each other, hilarity ensues."

2. Sit down, write as fast as possible, get enough pages done that you actually have a large fraction of the story done. Finish enough of it that you can tell yourself later that it's "almost done."

3. Think more about the story over the next day or two.

4. Wrap it up, post on /jp/ even if it's shit.

Basically you have to get far enough along in a short enough time that you can no longer convince yourself to give up.

( Results from my own try of this a while back: http://mirror05.x264.nl/Dark/force.php?file=./MokouStory.pdf )

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:05:12 No.3384786 I think drawfags are ok, but writefags? No.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:11:12 No.3384814 CYOA, not so good. Only low power level write bros do that stuff. Why not just write normally? Is a decision point every 4-5 setences really necessary?

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:12:12 No.3384823

>>3384785
I sort of read the first few sentences, then just sort of glanced at the rest. I guess that's a bad thing.

Is there a way to resize it to fit on "standard-size" book pages? It looks so odd seeing so much space, even though if you were to write it on a smaller page, it would be perfectly fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:13:12 No.3384824 >>3384814 Yes. Half of 4chan has ADD.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:13:12 No.3384825

this is the story about how reimiu learned how to make magic. one day reimiu woke up but it was night outside. reimiu woke up and saw that the sun was not risen. and marisa was waiting there with some reason. she said: "the sun is still not coming up" because it was still night. so reimiu flew up and looked for the sun. But it was to far away. so she landed and took alice with her to the scalet devil mansion. but it was daytime INSIDE OF THE CASTLE. reimiu talked to hong merlin. she said i am going to blow up the castle if you dont realese the sun. but the sun wasn't inside of the castle. something was making her see the light in the castle. then china punched alice in the face. reimiu looked down. she was alice on the ground and got angry and fired a danmaku at china which threw her into the castle. reimiu flew away to the mountain where she will plan how to get the sun back or kill everyone in her way because she is the shrine maiden: law enforcer of gensokyo.

to be continued...

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:13:12 No.3384828 >>3384760 I just bought a tablet, and I have to say, it's very hard to use so far. Though, I am awful at drawing.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:15:12 No.3384832 >>3384814 What if the decision points were farther apart? Like 1000 or so words?

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:16:12 No.3384839

>>3384823
>>3384814

Yeah, that is part of the problem--not just 4chan, but the internet in general has turned us into impatient fucks who can't sit down and read something more than half a page long.

Here's a version with smaller page sizes so that the lines are shorter (and you're right, it does seem easier to read...). No guarantees the typesetting isn't screwed up somewhere.

http://www.mediafire.com/?omn0dlymmy4

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:17:12 No.3384845

>>3384832

I agree with this approach; I used it for a CYOA I was writing a while back (lasted ~25 pages before I got bored...). IMO there should be at least 1 or 2 full pages between most decision points, at a minimum--more like a visual novel, really.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:18:12 No.3384847 >>3384825 why did I laugh so hard at this

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:19:12 No.3384851 >>3384828 From my experience, don't try to learn drawing with a tablet if you don't own at least an Intuos or Cintiq with decent size. Just draw on paper, scan and use your tablet to color and add effects.

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:21:12 No.3384864 >>3384851 I just hate drawing and erasing. And maybe it's the mechanical pencil, but the lines and stuff don't look so great.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:21:12 No.3384867 I don't really like CYOA much.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:23:12 No.3384874 Teach me how to draw and write. I need to make an Aki Sisters doujinshi.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:23:12 No.3384875 >>3384864 Learn to ink your drawings.

>>	Orochi !UWAAAAAA.. Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:30:12 No.3384907 I only draw original characters(do not steal), there's really no point in putting my pics here unless it's JP related...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:32:12 No.3384910 >>3384907 Chit Skadwell?

>>	Orochi !UWAAAAAA.. Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:33:12 No.3384916 >>3384910 who?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:35:12 No.3384919 I didn't read any of it, but YWUIG sounds like an invitation to indulge in masturbation fantasies pretty much

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:40:12 No.3384926 File: 101 KB, 268x299, Remilia QUALITY reaction.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3382079 I drew this, someone cropped it, and it became a somewhat fairly used reaction image. I've never felt so proud in my life...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:42:12 No.3384934 >>3384926 Ah, that's you. Never liked AD, specifically your work struck me as amateur and pointless, but out of the whole thing, the only thing that made me chuckle was that gag. So yeah.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:43:12 No.3384936 >>3384926 Sup Gen-Atto. I wasn't aware you were a regular here.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:46:12 No.3384945 >>3384919 There was far more egg-cooking than masturbation fantasy.

>>	Orochi !UWAAAAAA.. Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:47:12 No.3384949 >>3384936 ah, the drawbacks of anonymous

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 01:51:12 No.3384965

Sometimes I write up stuff to mess with /jp/ and I really appreciate whenever writefags take a few minutes to dredge out some quality OC for us, even if it isn't very funny. A well-thought-out thread is like an oasis in a desert of japanese birds, dawsons, and one-liner troll posts.
Drawfags are cool too, but there's not a lot. I can't really think of any besides mugen.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 02:02:12 No.3385002 >>3384965 >I can't really think of any besides mugen. He is not cool at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 02:09:12 No.3385025 >>3384934 Funnily, I don't consider it one of the best gags, since it relies heavily on a meme. >>3384936 yeah, I'm here pretty much everyday. not like it matters, but I like it here better.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 02:14:12 No.3385045

>>3385025
It's not the dialogue, it's the setting. Remilia having to drop everything to react against her will to something happening in a completely unrelated place makes it funny. Not hilarious, but chuckle worthy.
But you're right, it is a meme gag after all.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 02:17:12 No.3385058 >>3385002 Fool! You don't have the slightest idea how awesome mugen was.

>>	VDZ !!qQsbb3WhtFl Thu, Sep 17, 2009 02:28:12 No.3385101 >>3383044 >>3383221 >>3383241 >>3383255 Huh? People actually like my music now? Thanks for the comments, most people don't seem to like my music very much. >>3384488 As a drawfag? Yes, very much so. As a writefag? No.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 02:31:12 No.3385109 >>3384785 >post on /jp/ even if it's shit. Even if it has nothing to do with Touhou or anything else?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 02:37:12 No.3385120 >>3385109 Of course not. For something not-/jp/-relevant, post it where it is relevant... not /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 02:38:12 No.3385122 >>3385120 /writ/ is a good alternative for non-/jp/ works

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Thu, Sep 17, 2009 03:04:12 No.3385178 >>3385101 I like your music, but I think it needs better synths. I say "buy" some more as long as you aren't going to sell your songs or anything.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Thu, Sep 17, 2009 03:11:12 No.3385195

>>3385109

And don't write gay shit about a nun whose best friend is a witch and is essentially GENSOKYO IN ENGLAND/whatever you might have had in mind that's a poorly veiled reference to Gensokyo.

Just write some fanfiction, goddamn. If you're such an expert authority on writing, it should be awesome and amazing if it comes from you.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 03:20:12 No.3385217 Drawfags are good when they are actually can draw.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 03:26:12 No.3385229 >>3385195 Pretty much. There is nothing inherently bad about fanfiction--tell your story in whatever world fits it best.

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Thu, Sep 17, 2009 04:31:12 No.3385418 File: 82 KB, 894x1336, drawskills.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3385217 I drew you a picture, what do you think?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 04:33:12 No.3385424 >>3385418 shit

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Thu, Sep 17, 2009 04:36:12 No.3385436 >>3385424 Σ（￣ロ￣\|\|\|)

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 04:40:12 No.3385455 >>3385418 Poor guy seems to have dislocated his left arm. And his fingers are like centipedes.. still, you're better at shading than I am.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 04:41:12 No.3385458 >>3382079 Tried Wikipedia? > Save the English language on the Internet: http://www.anonta[removethis]lk.com/ICARE

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Thu, Sep 17, 2009 04:42:12 No.3385463 >>3385455 I know it's bad, I was just trying to get used to using the tablet. And shading... I'm pretty sure I'm no good at it.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 05:16:12 No.3385609

Dear writefags and KS devs:

1. Stop trying to be Japanese. Don't use Japanese settings, terms, honorifics, etc. if you don't know how to use them. Watching subbed anime doesn't count as knowing how to use them. Setting your story in Japanese Anime High School will only make your story look like weeaboo bullshit.

2. Playing Tsukihime and FSN does not make you an expert VN writer. Stop trying to be Nasu (with pseudo-deep babbling and meaningless repetition of words) because you can't pull it off.

3. Writing a VN doesn't mean you should take every weeaboo thing you know and make some shitty recycled story out of it. I believe that you can make an original VN that only borrows a little bit from things you've read. I'm not really against the generic Japanese high school setting, it's just that you won't be able to pull it off. I wouldn't expect a Japanese person to pull off a believable suburban American high school even if they try to copy the Disney channel.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 05:18:12 No.3385621 Don't try to write porn if you can barely write.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Thu, Sep 17, 2009 05:21:12 No.3385635 >>3385436 Sakura-kun, I think you're work is wonderful.

>>	mugenjohncel !!Oy+LavZ+kRU Thu, Sep 17, 2009 05:27:12 No.3385660 >>3385609 Agreed... also, try find very good english speakers to proofread work if not good in english...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 05:29:12 No.3385676 >>3385660 You could use one yourself.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 05:30:12 No.3385681

Just gonna compile a list of names or reference of known /jp/ musicfags and drawfags:

music
- VDZ
- Zamboza
- ZUN (yea i know there's lots of hatefags against him, but i acknowledge his skill)

draw
- mugen
- the virus vn artist from /jp/ project
- the dandelion girl artist from the same place

anymore?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 05:36:12 No.3385718 One day, anon tried to have sex with Komachi while she was sleeping but his dick was so small that she didn't even wake up. Then Shiki damned him to be Chen's scratching post for all eternity for interfering with Komachi's official duties. The end.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 05:49:12 No.3385784 polite sage

>>	Sakura !!sCKns1iPkwx Thu, Sep 17, 2009 06:21:12 No.3385947 >>3385635 (=^◇^=) Thanks Zun! I'll be sure to keep drawing!

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 06:41:12 No.3386036
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>>3385418
Practice more. This just sucks.

>>3385681
I won't acknowledge ZUN!bar until I'm convinced that he can actually make good music by himself. What I've heard from him so far sucks balls, and any music he posts that doesn't suck was probably stolen from somewhere.

As for drawfags, add Nipanya to the list (En Bloc artist). Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 06:43:12 No.3386044 >>3386036 His song silver dance is pretty good http://www.tindeck.com/listen/rrxy I have no reason to believe it was stolen from anywhere

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 06:48:12 No.3386059 >>3386044 half the song is just the same thing over and over and over. so boring

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 06:49:12 No.3386068 >>3386036 Sup, Nipanya.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 06:52:12 No.3386088 File: 37 KB, 483x665, kasane teto msp2a gray work cling.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] who wants a vn with mspaint art

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 06:54:12 No.3386095 >>3386088 With art like that it would be awesome.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 06:59:12 No.3386111 Look at the dandelion girl project. I mean, it doesn't even has 20 pages and yet it still isn't finished after months and months of waiting.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 07:02:12 No.3386125 >>3386111 At least they didn't give up like the other projects.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 07:07:12 No.3386137 >>3386088 Kawaii Adobenshaas was awesome.

>>	VDZ !!qQsbb3WhtFl Thu, Sep 17, 2009 07:13:12 No.3386147 >>3386068 Close, but no.

>>	Anonymous of Austria Thu, Sep 17, 2009 07:28:12 No.3386177 >>3385681 draw + Sai

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 08:00:12 No.3386292 bragging and envy.

>>	nipanya !NipAmIiYXE Thu, Sep 17, 2009 08:16:12 No.3386347 File: 5 KB, 242x224, rika smiling.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3386068 Hello~

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 08:26:12 No.3386377 >>3386347 Huh...never knew you had a trip.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 08:36:25 No.3386377,1 lol 404. Janitor doesn't like creativity in /jp/. Everyone move along.

>>	nipanya !NipAmIiYXE Thu, Sep 17, 2009 08:40:17 No.3386377,2 >>3386377 That's because I only post with it like once or twice a month. And usually only on Rika threads.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 08:43:39 No.3386377,3 [INTERNAL]

Post your stuff at /bun/ nipanya. At least it won't be janitored, and forced anonymity reduces the chances of someone trolling draw(or write or music creation)fag etc on the basis of attention whoring.

http://bunbunmaru.com/wakaba/general/res/5766.html

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 08:54:28 No.3386377,4 >>3386377,1 Didn't this autosage and got pruned?

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 09:06:13 No.3386377,5 [INTERNAL]

>>3386377,4
Nope. This thread got 404'd while still on page 1 and having 242 posts. This post will be the 246th.

This is /jp/, place to discuss and talk about japanese stuff, not for looking e-blowjob. Fanfiction.net and devianTART is the place for those. GTFO.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 09:14:28 No.3386377,6 >>3386377,5 Are you a new janitor, or still the same old meido? You seem different.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 09:27:02 No.3386377,7 >>3386377,6 No, just an anonymous passerby who enjoy checking out this thread, and suddenly POOF 404 lolwut.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 12:05:00 No.3386377,8 [INTERNAL]

>>3385681
>- the dandelion girl artist from the same place
I don't recall seeing any of his work posted in the original content/drawing threads we have here from time to time.

>>3386377,1
The thread started out as more of a metathread. Even so, some draw threads did get axed by the janitor in the past. Remember, he doesn't operate by rhyme or reason. Though wiping a thread when it's almost at the post bump limit is pretty silly.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 12:13:32 No.3386377,9 >>3386377,6 >>3386377,5 old meido and e-penis eh? That's for more interesting to see!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 12:29:23 No.3386377,10 Toua Tokuchi Voiced by: Masato Hagiwara Shigeru Akagi Voiced by: Masato Hagiwara Oh wow, I just noticed this.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 17, 2009 12:33:28 No.3386377,11 Kaiji Itō Voiced by: Masato Hagiwara Holy shit, even Kaiji?!

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