/07/th Expansion Thread

[Anonymous No.]

Discussion for Higurashi, Italianon, Cicada season, Umineko, Seacats, Ciconia, Haworthia, Higanbana, Rose Guns Days and all other 07th Expansion works but mainly Italianon works

07th Expansion archive:
https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ

Scorpion Charm:
https://pastebin.com/aa9NjGdU

Image Based Scorpion Charm:
https://pastebin.com/G5xm1rbQ

It is recommended to not reply to Italianon but someone will and the million plus reports do nothing. This is basically an Italianon general.

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It's over, Rika.

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[Anonymous No.]

Maria kiss.

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>>33695357
Everybody laugh at r*ka!

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>>33695364
REPLACED

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Take a picture like a skull... and Beatrice's hand...

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Satoko.

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Perfect.

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>>33696008
I can't listen to this song anymore. For some reason it starts raining every time I do.

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Memes aside, do you believe in Teppei redemption?
Could he actually get Satoko Syndrome? Just from seeing a literal cuterori after nightmares of his bad ends? Could be become a good man?

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>>33696033
Let's be honest, Teppei has always been a decent and cultured man, and Satoko was just trying to brand him as abusive.

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>>33696033
A common pattern with abusers is feeling guilty about their actions, trying to make up, and flying off the handle again when their victims lower their guard. Just look at Rosa. I'd love to see him turn around for real, but Satoko's mistrust of him is well-founded considering his past interactions with her.
I want to believe in him, but I don't want to see what would happen if Satoko let him have another chance only for him to hurt her again.

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>>33696062
I don't think Teppei has such a huge mindset and constructed some plan to rub Satoko's trust in her only to then beat and mock her again. No, that's not going to happen, Teppei is rethinking his outlook on life, at his age and lifestyle it's quite common practice, and given the external factors I don't find it surprising at all.

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>>33695837
>what you posted is really a supreme work of art
How do you feel about the artist wanting to nuke it or leave it abandoned forever and untagged in their twitter timeline so nobody can find it until one day he nukes the account? It's insane how someone can put so much effort into drawing art and treat it like this. Only random anons care about its preservation and they only manage to find some of them by luck.

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Everything you like is shit.

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>>33695777
Ehhh, it's alright, looks weird.

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>>33696118
But the question is, could he actually change himself for good or eventually relapse back to his bad habits?

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>>33696127
How can this creature live knowing that others possess fingernails.

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>>33696118
It's not really planned, Rosa wasn't planning on it either in my opinion. It's more like falling back into their old ways when things frustrate or anger them because they don't know another way to deal with those feelings.
I would love to see Teppei make a full 180-degree turn, but I don't think a couple apologies and some donuts are enough to bring that about.

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SO THIS IS THE SOLUTION OF HIGURASHI EP2.

Rika has a plan, she knew that Shion wanted to enter in the warehouse so changed the lock to lure her inside.
Shion was scared but then her sister was rejected by his classmate so she wanted to avange her, but when Keichi protect her against the redditors she starting to fall in love with him.
Keichi near her make Shion feel a feeling of security, like he was a white knight,so she decided to use him, to use this feeling to enter in the warehouse.

she found 2 allies Takano and Tomitake, a private investigator and a journalist who allied to find the truth about Oyashiro's curse.
Together these 4 detectives enter inside the warehouse and thanks K1 and Mion Takano found out the final proof.
these 4 people divided after the raid, even Tomitake and Takano because Takano wanted to return in the city since she can now solve the crime.
this is why Takano death is different from ep1 because Ooishi needed to pursuit her and during this fast and furius scene Ooishi finnally killed her and burned her body to eliminate the proof.(he had no time since needed to kidnap Tomitake).

these 2 deaths scared Mion so she tried to search help for her white knigth but the only ligth of hope accused her, this betrayl destroyed half of Shion's mind, but still seerch the help of the mayor.
Meanwhil Rika ordered to his Dog Ooishi to kidnap Shion to use her as Demon sacrifies but when Shion asked for help to the Mayor Ooishi was forced to take him instead, this destroyed RIka's plan.

after hearing the story of Keichi Rika created a new Plan to give all the fault to Mion.
1) advice Keichi to not speak with Mion
2)Ooishi Brainwash the total destroyed(after mayor killing) Shion's brain to made her suspect about Sonozaki's clan and she would be the next victim.
3) rainbow siege at Sonozaki mansion, Shion deactivated the cameras, Rika with the exscuse of Onions Sauce make Mion opens the gate and Ooishi enter and killed Mions's grandma and kidnap her
4) Shion now must act like Mion and cover her grandma's death
(Satoko is still strange since in the ladder Scene , Shion was mad towards her....so Ooishi can use Satoko as a motive to kill RIka but i am not sure so for now skip it)
the rest of the Plan was just enforce Mion suspect until Keichi and Rena decided to break in her home.
Shion acted like in the plan but Keichi's words, the words of his loved's onemake her understand that she was just used but was too late to fix things.
the plan included kill Keichi to broke Mion's mind so she could not deny to be Shion, but Shion saved him.

the final mystery is just Shion hit K1 to create and alibi, the fall with her sister and both died in the same moment, then Keichi bring Mion's body to Sonozaki dungeon and make the police found the well.

i skipped a lot of things but in general this is the solution.
naturally miss 2 things
WHy Rika died?
How can people change death time?

i can use the goat solution Ooishi lied likesince the official time of death is normal, like SHkanontrice always did but i for me this is an insult to the reader because is a too beutiful mystery for this shit solution

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>>33696137
There is no suggestion of Teppei returning to his former preferences in life, and besides, he told Satoko that he would sever all his ties to the past. I believe in Teppei, he can be good, I'll tell you in confidence that I didn't feel particularly negative about him while reading VN, except for the moments where he beat Satoko and made her go get a beer or something like that. I can tell he's a simple realistic country man, just picked a bad contingent to hang out with.

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>>33696033
satoko reset this world, that's all you need to know.

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>>33696120
Yeah, it's pretty sad and I don't understand that kind of action on the part of artists. Aluce_ill has also removed many of his works, some of which are very, very hard to find at the moment.

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>>33696182
I believe in Teppei in that fragment, but I have no reason to believe that characters couldn't go back to their old habits in latter fragments. Even if another Teppei after has these dreams, it doesn't guarantee he will seek to change his life around everytime it happens.

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>>33696182
>I'll tell you in confidence that I didn't feel particularly negative about him while reading VN
What the hell am I reading.

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>>33696206
Some of the fragments repeat the events of other fragments as closely as possible, so anything is possible.
>>33696212
Read on, anon, I don't see this man as universal evil, that's all. Rina is far worse than Teppei.

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Is Battler super straight?

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>>33696033
could he actually turn his life around and become a model citizen? no way. but I don't think it's much of a stretch that even a total low-life could feel regret and make an effort to change.

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This Satoko was hiding untagged in pixiv since 2020 christmas.

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>>33696252
Jesse what the hell are you talking about?

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>>33696268
Along with this one. Fuzzy...

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>>33696268
Excellent find, archeologist-kun.

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>>33696282
Jesse, your date is a guy

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#tea

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Lion pussy!

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>>33696320
posting pictures of Saber from Fate seems wrong even if I love my king.

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>>33695357
>I don't even know who Rika is anymore
>O~hohohoho!

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So now that we all agree Tomita = Tomitake and Satoko = Takano in the same timeline, can we all agree that Maria = Eva Beatrice = Eva and Battler = Maria's dad?

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>>33696350
me = you

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>>33696360
take my meds.

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>>33696346
What's the sfx near Rika? Shock or something I guess?

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>>33696022
A very hot old lady.

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>>33696320
Would Lion fall in love with Battler, or is Lion so radically different from Sayo that they'd never share common interests? It kind of irritates me that it never got brought up. Is Sayo's perfect version of herself unable to commit the sin of incest? Or is it more that Lion would move on from Battler? Or is it that Sayo really was a man originally, and the perfect version of Yasu would be straight?
Instead we just got Will dropping in and becoming their sort-of love interest. You'd think such an important part of Sayo's motive would be covered in regards to Lion's perspective rather than just 'oh, he didn't come this year' and that's it.

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Bern swallows

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>>33696402
Sayo and Buttler became close because she was a lonely maid, but she had a great imagination and liked to read detectives just like Battler. During one such reading together, Battler decided to confess that he liked Sayo, and it was because of this that Beatrice subsequently created her game precisely in the form of a mystery. About Lion's potential love of detectives was not specified, nor do I remember Battler coming to Rockenjima in Lion's fragment (maybe he did, I just read the VN a long time ago). And if I'm right, why does Battler really only come to Rokkenjima in the Sayo fragments? Perhaps he subconsciously remembered the promise.

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Lambda's sperm

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>>33696475
My perception of it was that either Battler didn't return in Bern's mixed-up fragment because he'd have been a nuisance to her plan, he didn't so that Will could take his place and keep the number of peope on Rokkenjima correct (although that one's a little off since there's way more than 17 people there anyway), or he didn't because of Kyrie's (and probably Rudolf as well) plan to kill everyone, since that probably wasn't instigated by Lion in that fragment and was potentially a pre-planned situation.

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rosa

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>>33696402

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>>33696529
Basically the whole tragedy comes from a forgotten promise, and I don't think Battler promised Lion he'd pick him up on a white horse or anything like that, that situation would be pretty comical considering Lion is Ushiromiya's direct heir without any mental problems, unlike Yasu. Kyrie and Rudolf are the true culprits, that's the whole point. Still, it's really sad that they didn't even reveal a little bit about Battler in Lion's fragment. It's easier to say that he didn't renew his relationship with his parents, which is why he wasn't on Rokkenjima.

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>>33696346
>>33696380
Well, anyways, I just wanted to do a quick edit.

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>>33696594

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>>33696594
idk why but this picture disgusts me

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>>33696577
Is she hungry or something?

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I just finished reading Umineko EP8 and its baffling to me how so many people think its a bad ending. It wasnt what I expected but it was fucking amazing. I still dont know why exactly Japan hated it so much, was there a particular reason?

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>>33696033
He's always had Satoko Syndrome.

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>>33696761
You mean the underwater scene with Beato and Battler? It's really mesmerizing and tear-jerking.

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>mion is 14
what the fuck I thought she was 17

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>>33696795
Just ignore the official ages, they make no sense.

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>>33696795
She's 16. The official ages came from nowhere and make no sense. I doubt Ryuukishi had anything to do with it.

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>>33696464
How else would she eat food and drink?

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>>33696789
I dont think I disliked any of the endings. Trick,Magic,TeaParty,??? I enjoyed all of them and accepted them as a good closure to the series. I just honestly cant see how any of these could make so many people mad at a point they start hating EP7/8 as a whole, it wasnt even a "bad end" in many ways but a relatively happy one. I still think EP2-6 are the high points but 7 and 8 had so many great moments, I definitely dont dislike them

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shanon

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Phase 2 tomorrow!

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>>33696886
lol

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>>33696402
They grew up with a completely different relationship, anon. To Lion Battler is just his dumb cousin. Plus Lion’ life and outlook is just very different. He has a family and support so he wouldn’t invest everything in Battler like Yasu did.
Lion is still gay though and pressing Will every night.

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>>33696877
Realistic water balloon physics

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>>33696857
I think all the endings are perfect for a work like Umineko, no one could have come up with a better one than what we have, the magical ending of course is sugary-sweet as in some fairy tale, but in fact everyone understands that it's just imagination. EP7 seemed better to me in some aspects, such as the revelation of Kinzo's past, a very competent person in the form of Willard, also showed Yasu in a happy development, or the scenes with Kyrie and Rudolf's performance, which make the blood run cold in the veins.

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>>33696945
>>33696857
An ending that advocates for escapism and self-delusion can't be a good one.

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>>33696979
There is no ending there that encourages ideas of escapism. The reader who is in his right mind understands that it's imagination, that's all. And this ending seems more like a crush on the reader's senses, that is, it shows a reunion of all the characters and all that. Tohya just got rid of Battler's memories, and Ange got what she wanted.

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>>33696897
That is likely the case, yes. It'd amaze me if they did have such a close relationship as Battler and Sayo had, but I still wish they'd actually made a point of talking about it though. For Battler to be so important to Yasu, it seems a little weird to just have 'oh, he's not here' be the only real knowledge we have of Battler and Lion's relationship - that his presence wasn't something Lion desperately cared for.
It's like seeing the Saikoroshi version of Hinamizawa, only with Keiichi still there and everyone just didn't care about him as much due to their circumstances, with the only real mentioning of him being 'oh, he went home early today'. It's not impossible, per se, but it'd be weird to not have the characters' perspective on someone that mattered so much to them in the original universe, even if it was just 'I barely talk to him'.

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>>33697018
Well, I suppose ''imagination'' is a fitting euphemism for escapism.

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>>33697018
>>33697044
Ange is by definition an escapist, she has become a writer and is constantly writing some kind of book, i don't see how that's surprising.

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>>33696979
I moreso saw that last scene as Battler leaving Tohya's body, freeing him from his weird mental state. Not as something him or Ange actually imagined or thought that happened. What's important about the ending is that everyone directly involved with the incedent could finally move on

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Romanes eua domus

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>>33697093
You think her memory device ever bumps into stuff and annoys her?

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>>33697110
What if she tried to eat a big pizza whole and it got stuck

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EP4 is complete drawn-out crap with endless forcedly ostentatious bullying of Angie to get readers to "empathize with her." Change my mind.

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>>33697110
I bet if she gets something stuck in her teeth she just moves it round and uses it a a toothpick

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>>33697134
It was the most Ange filled Episode and therefore the best!

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>>33697134
Dont care about Ange but I liked it because "Kinzo" and Maria are great. The later twilights were kinda lame but it was still very enjoyable

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>>33697020
I think the point is that it's weird, anon. It helps establish what a completely different life Lion has led that has made him effectively a completely different person. Asides from being gay. Even if Lion has a relatively perfect life the love between Battler and Sayo is something that could only have been born from that original tragedy. I think your Ssaikoroshi comparison is apt.

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>>33697134
I found EP4 a little sad because Maria's backstory reminded me of someone

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>>33696840
>>33696795
Recently I've been looking into the birthdays of all the characters in 07th. As far as I've found the official ages come from a booklet called "07th Expansion All Character Settings Collection" that was released by 07th expansion at Comiket 85 in 2013, I think the actual birthdays we known earlier but the years weren't confirmed until later. Mion being 14 during June 1983, her birthday is in July so she is about to turn 15. This also fits with her leaving for high school in 1984 during Higurashi Gou, she will turn 16 in July 1984. Apparently R07 confirmed the ages in 2016 as well during a Q&A. I also have my own reasons for believing R07 himself was involved in giving the characters their ages and birthdays. I have actually been looking for scans of this All Character settings booklet, but unless I'm blind and they are in the mega, I haven't found any yet.

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>>33697195
Please tell us a little about this person anon. Was this person also trying to force their own happiness against all odds?

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>>33697244
>This also fits with her leaving for high school in 1984
I guess this is why I was confused, because I thought she was leaving for college.

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>>33697134
I thought Ange’s journey was great.

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>>33697268
This was a girl I used to had a bit of a crush on. She spent a lot of time neglected by her mom when she was younger, who was an alcoholic bitch that was always looking for dick. This girl was also pretty immature for her age as she grew older, but was self sufficient in some ways. She didn't have any weird beliefs though, however she had a really simplistic idea of how the world works.

Then she grew up and remained childish, with an increasingly crazier mom and some skinny spic.

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>>33696795
never trust wiki-fags. use your own common sense and believe only what you can verify.

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>>33697161
You might be right. I suppose it really depends on if you think R07 was alright with their dynamic change being shown by omission rather than spelling it out like he can tend to do. There's nothing wrong in leaving some character threads alone in a situation like an alternate universe where what you're supposed to care most about is the similarities between them and the original versions of themselves to help build a case as to why you're seeing it, and it can tell quite a lot in itself, but it can also be a little unsatisfying sometimes when it's someone you deem important to the character.

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>>33697343
Did she have a roributt?

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Just fapped to Dlanor.

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>>33697380
Yeah. Cute clothes too.

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>>33697161
What a lot of emphasis you have on gays in your posts, Mr. Goathead.

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>>33697422
Ryukishi does seem to go fairly gay in when they cry after Higurashi though.

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>>33697389
If it was to this huge gauntlet hand photo then you have some odd tastes

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>>33697430
There is such a thing. But i really don't understand why the emphasis on gayness. Many have accepted the truth that Yasu/Lion are men, but why put so much importance on gayness... After all, it doesn't even matter...

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>>33697469
>Yasu/Lion are men
But she's not?

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>>33697480
Yes, she's not.

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>>33697469
Ciconia takes it even further. I can’t tell if Jayden is going to be disappointed or happy if miyao/meow is actually female.

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>>33697491
What if he is though?

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>>33697497
The game makes it seem like he loves boobs and butts(female), but will force himself to accept the dick because he doesn't want his love to appear shallow. Pretty laughable reason to go gay, but you know, R07 writing.

>>33697504
umm no sweaty she's not.

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>>33697504
It doesn't matter! Nowhere is the exact sex listed. I'm sticking with the girl's version for some reasons i'm too lazy to spell out.

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>>33697512
So you are saying she is not he?

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>>33697512
I tend to think either way for Lion. There's definitely more of a balance towards male, but given that Sayo's meant to be more ambigious, I'd like to say there's a chance Lion's female.
Plus, smug flat Sayo makes my dick hard, and if it makes my dick hard it's a woman.

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>>33697542
Ok uncertain of the validity of this logic.
Although Umineko is the story of dick or lack of dick.

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>>33696169
holt shit guys finnally i return and no one comment

ok i will start to take english screenshot or you never belive in nothing

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>>33697553
Italianon is too lonely in life and no one gives him any time even on the internet, sad.

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>>33697550
Umineko is the story of simping into murderous levels

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>>33697553
Yeah I'll be honest, without the english it's hard for me to remember some of the specifics of these scenes.

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>>33697575
This. Moral of the story is don't say gay white knight shit or you might get your entire family killed.

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>>33697579
dont worry i will start with some interesting shit about Rika mastermind

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The Useless of Hinamizawa.

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>>33697589
Funny thing is that Battler was probably trying to imitate his womanizer dad or something.

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Based

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>>33697608
dumb hamburger get flipped

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>>33697589
To be fair, is it better to blame Battler for saying shit and leaving, or George for getting her confused about love when he eventually returned? If she had no one to anchor herself onto, she'd have either killed herself or just ended up waiting for Battler until he eventually returned. Either will stop the family killing each other, or at least because of her supplying a method of doing as such anyway.

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>>33697497
He convinced himself that there's nothing wrong with his gf having a dick to the point he got mindfucked into becoming gay. When he finds out she has a pussy he'll be livid.

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>>33697553
I got into discrete mathematics and I’m confident Maria can get a job!
Assuming Rosa does not commit same sin of beating the shit out of her again

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Ushiromiya Rika

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>>33697597
Shockingly useless goddess.
At least they recycled her hat for Rika in one of Gou episodes

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>>33697608
Imagine having to clean that up.
Bits of Ange all over the street

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>>33697627
Doesn't livid mean he'd be mad?

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>>33697636
Maria get a job and Rosa ask her money for dating.
what a painful life for Maria

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>>33697626
Battler did nothing wrong. Unironically.
Kids say stupid shit all the time and it's not reasonable to hold them to their words. I probably said stuff 100 times cringier at his age, it's just part of growing up. Also, it was incredibly arrogant and pretentious of Yasu to believe she was supposed to be Battler's number one concern after he had such a traumatic experience with his family at the time.

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>>33697684
>I probably said stuff 100 times cringier at his age
YIKES

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FEATHERINE!

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>>33697684
Yasu is a sick kid with an abnormal psyche or smth like that. Perhaps infantile. So no wonder she attached such importance to his words, and he really was her only hope of escape from her imprisonment from the island.

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When Ryukishi wrote Minagoroshi did he introduce the concept of fragments and gameboards with Umineko in mind?

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>>33697718
I know, I'm not blaming Yasu either, I'm just saying Battler didn't do anything every kid has done as well.

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>>33697751
Yes, i agree. It's a shame that Yasu decided to drown herself, she could have lived a pretty normal life with Battler.

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I will chase Enje-chan around with a knife until she burns off all of that blubber.

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>>33697784
That scene was real? I though it was meta and Yasu died in the killing spree.

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>>33697684
Well, that's what happens when your entire life has been one fucked up mess. Sayo's clearly not grown up mentally in comparison to her peers of her actual age, instead being closer to everyone was told her age was, and so she probably latched onto Battler like Maria latches onto Beatrice. She decided to try and let go of him after she didn't get a letter, only she did it in the unhealthiest way of latching onto another guy instead, having not really had a good parental figure to tell her not to.
And of course, George isn't exactly the best person to do that with, considering he's very much a man of aspirations. He has a very goal-oriented mindset, and thinks Shannon can help him achieve one goal of a big happy family when she obviously can't. Him pushing that constantly on her again and again probably didn't help matters, and despite how mature everyone says he is, he still hasn't learned to take a hint yet.
Now, I don't think George is entirely to blame either, of course. It's just rather weird that so many say Battler's mainly to blame when George has been constantly hammering in her issues for three years in person.

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>>33697812
Yes, Kyrie shot a blank and only grazed her collarbone.

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HELLO GUYS
REMEMBER THE GERDEN WHERE CHIE GROW VEGETABLES FOR THE CURRY FOR SOME REASON THESE PLANT ARE ALL DEAD

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>>33697845
What is the hint for ''I don't have a working uterus and-or vagina''? I mean, maybe George is guilty of being too old-fashioned and so adamant in no premarital sex...

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RIKA-CHAN IS FULL OF SOIL AND GRASS
SO SHE WAS DIGGING IN THIS GARDEN AND HER DIGGING KILL ALL THE PLANTS?

WTF RIKA IS DOING ?

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I honestly wish this pastanigger would drop dead.

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FOR THE POLICE MION DIED FALLING FROM THE STAIRS AND HER BODY WAS FOUND INSIDE THE POUND BUT BETWEEN THEM THERE IS A TUNNEL

SO THIS IS NOT A INCIDENT OR SUICIDE SOMEONE MAKE MION FELL AND THEN PUT THE BODY INSIDE

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I love Mion

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>>33697865
I kind of wish that they didn't add the whole idea of a blank in one of the guns. Considering she's planning to kill all of them, it seems a bit silly to have one ready to not work unless she really was planning to have one of them kill her at some point, or if she was planning it to go exactly like EP1. Wouldn't it make more sense to just have the dodgy gun be the one that was shot at her? That way you can actually notice it before EP8 outside of the fact that Eva doesn't specifically notice if Beatrice is in the room still or not.
>>33697897
Well, I can't imagine someone who's so emotionally unstable that she decides to kill an entire family based on her own issues, wouldn't still be upset about the whole 'my body's completely fucked' thing. And with George constantly going on about his plans, which entirely depend on her body functioning normally, I'd imagine she'd be pretty obvious in showing that something's up with the generally idea of having children, from sadness or some other twist of her facial expressions. Maybe it wouldn't be completely obvious that she can't have them at all, but if she has an issue with one of George's big goals in life, you'd think he'd talk to her about it at some point considering how adamant he was about having her alongside him throughout the rest of his plans.

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>>33697949
>not capping the part right after where she gets flustered because she starts to think he actually IS going to give her a love letter
Anon you IDIOT

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BOTH 3 MAKE THE SAME QUESTIONS
COOPERATION

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>>33697134
All the time I was just hoping the story would go back to Rokkenjima because Ange is extremely boring and unlikable.

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>>33697949
I hate Mion.

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>>33697512
Sayo is definitely ok with boobs and butts but I think that's also fixated on the womanly body she wishes she had since she was initially into guys and even Lion is into guys.

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>>33697975
In his place I would just assume she was insecure about the idea of a maid having this fairy tale life with the son of a rich family, or fears of not being good enough for him, unable to cross the class gap between them etc. I'm most certainly not jumping to the conclusion that she's infertile, but maybe I also lack tact for these things, I've never been in a relationship.

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>>33698097
I was talking about Jayden in Ciconia if you were confused. Or maybe I'm the one confused, idk.

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>>33697975
At least when Yasu woke up among the corpses she said something like "Kyrie shot one of those blanks I added?", i would've brought manga frames, but English is not my main language

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>>33698010
There was more dialog until that part, so I cut it short. Poor Mion didn't deserve to get friendzoned in so many fragments...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698022
really makes u think

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>>33697975
Sayo's whole murder plan was a roulette because she wanted to be stopped. She put in a bunch of ways her plans could fuck up on purpose. Saying she planned to kill all of them isn't exactly true. It's more like she wanted a resolution to her fucked up life one way or another.
Sayo was pretty obvious about it but George is a fucking selfish moron who refused to see anything from her point of view. Like she was really clearly trying to hint to him by insisitng their whole relationship only existed because magic but he just laughed it all off as dumb women stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

I wanted to do something with this scene, but it just doesn't have the same impact without the great performances of Kanai Mika and Tamura Yukari.

Full 30s scene with audio
>>>/wsg/3835941

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>>33698163
remember when /jp/ thought rika was brainwashed here only for the next episode to immediately shut that down?

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>>33698150
>Sayo was pretty obvious about it but George is a fucking selfish moron who refused to see anything from her point of view. Like she was really clearly trying to hint to him by insisitng their whole relationship only existed because magic but he just laughed it all off as dumb women stuff.
I hate to say it, but I'm kind of with g*orge on this one. I would've reacted the exact same way. It never even occurred to me to interpret that part another way until I read this, in fact.

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>>33698150
>but he just laughed it all off as dumb women stuff.

wouldn't anyone? Did you really expect George to solve some 3 dimensional quantum chess puzzle with minimal hints and info or just assume she was insecure about this whole situation? I mean, who wouldn't be scared of Eva's reaction?

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>>33698181
She pretty much was, wasn't she. But couldn't shake the suspicion that something was off...

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>>33698113
My bad anon, sorry.

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>>33698228
No she was fine, she wouldn't have noticed something was off otherwise. Everything she does is what normal Rika would have done as well, she didn't even need Hanyuu to tell her who the culprit was this time so she's even more nosy than she was before.

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>>33697695
When I was like 12, my best friend's sister had a huge crush on me, but I was pretty mean to her and teased her all the time. Normal kid stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698289
That's more based than cringe m8.

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>>33698289
There's no such thing as falling in love at age 12. It's just that kids get to know sympathy.

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>>33698203
>>33698205
Perhaps if it'd only been a few months or maybe a year at a stretch, but George dated her for 3 whole years without noticing the slightest of things. I can't imagine the bits we see of their conversations are the only times they actually talked about it, so he'd have had to constantly ignore every time she acted weird or said something strange when they talked about children or marriage or whatever else would set Shannon off. Of course, this is then delving into 'why did no one on the island notice Shannon was Kanon?' territory.
My own point was simply that George wasn't exactly the best choice for Sayo to stick herself onto after Battler, since he's the type of guy that doesn't notice that he keeps rubbing salt into wounds. Not like there was much choice, mind, other than Kanon selfcest of course.

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>>33698323
He said she had a crush, not that she fell in love you dingus.

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>>33698308
I don't know, I feel kinda bad now. Her mother told my mother that she planned to get alone with me in her room and steal a kiss or something. She was very naive and romantic for her age. I just wanted to play videogames with my friend and went all ''lol no way fag'' with the poor girl.

[Anonymous No.]

Hello, my name is Ronoue Genji. I am going to take the product of incest rape child of my master, and raise him as a girl with the intention of eventually delivering him back to his rapist father. I will also employ him as a child servant in a job that is universally agreed to be difficult even for young adults by the woman who tried to murder him as a baby. I'll lie to him his entire life and let him go friendless and depending on shit like witch fantasies to cope with his terrible life, but it will all be worth it when my master meets him again, feels better about raping his own daughter, and gets a peaceful death.

Then I guess I'll tell this child they're actually a disfigured man and the product of rape and give him the switch to a giant bomb and a bunch of guns. What could go wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

OG GUYS THIS IMAGE EXPLAIN EVERYTHIN

MION AND SHION ARE CONSIDERED CAT FOR RIKA
MION AND SHION ARE NOT THE DOG
THE DOG IS CONTROLLED BY RIKA
RIKA IS MAKING KEICHI THINK THAT MION IS THE CULPRIT FOR REVANGE AGAINST HIS ENTER IN THE WAREHOUSE

RIKA IS BETRAYL HER FRIEND BY SAYING TO INGORE HER

MASTERMIND CONFIRMED

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[Anonymous No.]

>>33698365
>MION AND SHION ARE NOT THE DOG
what the fug you're right

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698356
How did your life get so wired that girls laid eyes on you when you were 12 years old and now you're sitting on an anonymous board?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698329
We have to take into consideration that their relationship was still kept secret and they didn't have many opportunities to be together alone during those 3 years.

[Anonymous No.]

Satoko, but ita-lianon quality

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>>33698359
>I will also employ him as a child servant in a job that is universally agreed to be difficult even for young adults
He was so skilled at it he was probably like:
>I will also employ him as a child servant in a job that is braindead easy and effortless, I mean, I do it just fine

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>>33698395
Thought she was a swastika for a sec

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>>33698395
spagheddi :DD

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698395
Swastoko!

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>>33698359
Umineko is badly written.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698423
Just the way I like it.

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>>33698359
Honestly, it makes you wonder if Genji was suicidal himself or something. He can't have done all that shit without realising this was going to bite him in the ass at some point. I can sort of forgive Nanjo for it since he actually seems to have thought he did the morally right thing, but Genji knew his friend raped his own daughter and yet decided to bring the child of that rape back, and depending on your interpretation, chose to raise that child as a girl despite it being much better for that child's welfare if they went with the 'disfigured boy' angle. And then, by some amazing luck, that child not only didn't realise their true gender, but his friend died before he got the chance to start making moves on his child/grandchild, only for him to decide 'oh, now's the perfect time to pull some more trauma on them, and then tell them about the bombs that can blow us up!'.
What the fuck is wrong with this man?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698393
George admits he knew something was wrong and ignored it on purpose.

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>>33698391
I have no idea. Turned down several cute girls during school days and now I'm 28. I'm scared that if I blink again I'll be 48.

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>>33698359
It was a great plan, you have to admit.

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>>33698385
MISS 1 IMAGE HERE RIKA CONFIRMED THAT SHION WAS THE VICTMIN BUT THEN THE DOG KIDNAP THE MAYOR

AND SINCE RIKA CONTROL THE DOG THEN RIKA IS THE CULPRIT OF MAYOR KIDNAPPING

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>>33698445
>chose to raise that child as a girl despite it being much better for that child's welfare if they went with the 'disfigured boy' angle.
To be fair at the time it was agreed within the medical community that this would be the best thing for the child. Many disfigured or intersexed boys had this shit happen to him, it's fucked up. "Easier to make a hole than a pole" was the saying.

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>>33698453
>tfw 34
I basically just think of myself as 40 already so it won't hurt as bad when I blink and really am that age.

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>>33698446
Oh, I thought it was acknowledged at some point he knew and ignored it. Forgot it was in the manga.
George really is a sad sack of shit, isn't he? Every time something goes wrong, he just thinks 'if only' afterwards. He really isn't dependable, and yet everyone seems to act as if he is. Where did that come from? Did they just think that since he's the oldest child, he's clearly the most dependable? Even Battler's more dependable, just from piece-Battler's actions only and not the seemingly even more dependable real-Battler we only see in EP8.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698467
What the FUCK bros. Is pastanon actually onto something here? Why the fuck is she saying the dog is the one who kidnapped the mayor when she just said Shion is a cat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33696252
No. Neither are jooji and Jessica. The only confirmed SS is Jayden.

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>>33698499
He was older, had great education and was a smooth talker. On my first read I was really suspecting him of being at least an accomplice because of what Jessica said about his ability to steer a conversation wherever he wants.

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>>33698453
You're already 28, so it's not so bad. I'm 19 and I've never had contact with girls, not even in school. I literally don't know how to communicate with girls, and when they tell me something, I always can't put my thoughts together. It scares me a little, but I think there's nothing wrong with living life as a virgin.

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>>33696475
>Buttler
beads up my ass.png

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>>33698499
>Did they just think that since he's the oldest child
>child
He's 23

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698481
ANON

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>>33698542
You're still a person's child, anon. It doesn't matter what age you are. Never mind that clearly they still see him as one, considering they won't even let him sit in their conferences.

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>>33698527
I remember bouncing around between suspecting characters like George, Jessica, Kumasawa, etc because they seemed to clean, and specifically NOT suspecting characters like Kanon, Shannon, Kyrie, etc because they seemed too obvious.

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>>33698446
uwoooohhhh after this panel i need a yasu gf

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>>33698445
All is in the name of guiding Kinzo down the right path.

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>>33698574
I think Shannon was too obvious so I didn't even consider her until way, WAY too late. Shkanontrice is lame af.

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>>33698574
tbqh a jessicatrice theory would be fun as fuck.

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>>33698574
Yes. George had the ability to distract with smooth talking, Jessica looked like a young Beatrice and had a second wilder personality, Kumasawa was just shifty in general and so on. On my second reading of the question arcs Kanon was way too obvious of a culprit on EP1, yet it took a while for me to suspect Shannon.

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>>33698574
I definitely thought of Kyrie and came to the same conclusion.

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>>33698574
I was mostly thinking Kanon was a primary suspect, especially after the Jessica kill in EP2 where everyone continues to go 'but he totally couldn't have done it!' only he's the only person who could do it. The servants helping was obvious, and then Shannon seemed too important to not be one of the main perpetrators, since Kanon clearly wasn't the main one with him only having been there for a short time, not long enough to have enough of a reason to justify those crimes, while Shannon had been working there for ages.

[Anonymous No.]

Hmmm, are detective rules allowing a servant to be the culprit?

[Anonymous No.]

Frankly, I liked Kanon from the start, and buying in to Shkanotrice meant taking away the dignity of being a 'real character' from him, so I desperately searched for some alternative. I couldn't have an objective outlook.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698668
yes, yasu and the servants are always the culprits. umineko itself doesn't follow knox's rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698681
I never cared about his whiny, aggressive, self-deprecating ass, too annoying for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698668
KANON IS NOT A SERVANT BUT THE HEAD OF THE FAMILY

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698681
>2021
>he STILL hasn't taken the rosatrice pill

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[Anonymous No.]

Any theory (or unofficial explanation) that doesn't rely on multiple personalities are better than Shkanontrice for me. Even having the culprit maliciously disguise as Beatrice or someone else is better than him actually having a split personality.

[Anonymous No.]

Rika chan is full of soil and grass

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>>33698684
The servant rule is a Dine rule, which are the ones that don't apply to Umineko.

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>>33698706
Kanon is a servant, idiot. Yasu is the head of the family.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698729
Yasu doesn't have a split personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698729
I hate the split personality stuff too.
But it’s what happened,
You must live with the truth.

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>>33698702
I found it endearing. Maybe because I'm similar to him, maybe just because he's cute.
>>33698710
But those theories essentially remove the significance of Shannon and Kanon. The interactions between Shannon and Kanon in episode 6 make no sense unless you assume they're the same person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698729
Shkanontrice isn't split personalities.

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>>33696033
I'm pretty sure it was stated that the aunt was the abusive one before. Teppei became this abusive uncle exactly during the fragments when he came back to Hinamizawa. While I can't deny that he might've slapped Satoko's butt once or thrice because she was an annoying and disobedient brat, though probably not even close as depicted in the other fragments that made Satoko mind broken.
The uncle and the aunt was not really that bad before the village ostracized them in the Dam war. You could say that's their turning point. Though I can't deny that both of them are greedy and lazy people all in all through their core.
That's also why he's easily manipulated by Rina.

Not saying that gave him a pass for his sins, but just like the other club members, him realizing how pathetic his life is and to live it until the end of time without anyone to connect to is not surprising at all. He just wants a cuterori daughter now.

Though I doubt the Satoko now will ever forgive him. That might've shook Satoko at first, but now Hinamizawa is pretty much a God's playing field and Teppei will be treated as just another one of Satoko' chess piece for Rika.

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>>33698741
knox, dine, whatever, buncha nerd shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698743
Kanon is a Yasu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698747
No, I'll deny the red truth, I'll make my own golden truth!

>>33698746
What?

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>>33698499
Horseshit. George may have overestimated himself a bit but he's young and rich, of course he's going to do so. What's he supposed to be, a meek loser? no thanks. The George hate is getting kind of old and I think it comes from a certain kind of place espoused by a certain type of person. This is the guy who was praised by Will of all people. A literal Angel. Quit bullshitting.

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>>33698743
Kanon isn't the culprit either, he is an accomplice. Beatrice/Yasu is the culprit, and not a servant.

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>>33698756
>I'm pretty sure it was stated that the aunt was the abusive one before
No, you're just thinking of the fact that Teppei was a deadbeat and abandoned her to live with his mistress, the piece of shit known as Rina. Teppei was always abusive of Satoko when he was around, hence why everyone but Keiichi knows this when Teppei returns in Tatarigoroshi and Minagoroshi.

[Anonymous No.]

GUYS AN EXIT IS A 2ND ENTRANCE

IF RIKA KNOW ABOUT THE THIS EXIT THEN CAN ENTER INTO SONOZAKI DUNGEON EVERY TIME

AND THIS EXIT IS IN THE SCHOOL, WHERE K1 STOP HER FULL OF MUD AND GRASS

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698768
There are no split personalities. Yasu is completely aware and in control the entire time. The Shannon and Kanon you see are Yasu in disguise or depictions of fictional characters he wrote.

[Anonymous No.]

The problem is, I need Satoko. You don't understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698769
Dlanor is also an angel and sided with Erika. Angel opinions don't count for shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698769
>The George hate is getting kind of old
Gee I wonder who could be behind this post...

[Anonymous No.]

Someone thinks that Yasu has a split personality.

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>>33698768
They aren't split personalities, otherwise Yasu would have been found out ages ago if one of the personalities was in control at the wrong time. He himself is always in control, Kanon and Shannon are just personas meant meant for the sake of his love for George and Jessica. Just like Ted Bundy adopting a different persona for each of his victims except Yasu really did love them.

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>>33698797
The way it was presented in ch.7 clearly treats them as split personalities, even if Yasu can ''control' them. Yasu had long conversations with Shannon in the golden land. There was nowhere else there, she wasn't faking it, it's clearly a case of split personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698798
No, I understand completely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698816
Have you ever heard of imaginary friends anon? Do you think Sakutaro is an actual split personality of Maria, or the Stakes are split personalities of Ange?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698816
Holy fuck do I hate sharing this thread with retards, are you from /a/ or something? Did you not read EP4 at all?

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>>33698784
It was stated in the vn that that the uncle was not this worse when Satoshi and the aunt was still around. And Teppei left Hinamizawa because he was scared of the curse. Though it's true that he's living with his mistress, but I mean... With a wife like that.

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>>33698816
it was tulpamancy. Yasu 'created' different characters and then acted them out. it wasn't 'pretending', but neither was it some involuntary thing that developed a life of its own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698829
ange is just a weirdo who talks to her tulpas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698816
>asu had long conversations with Shannon in the golden land.
Haven't heard of the magic interpretation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698829
What do you think imaginary friends are? And in Yasu's case, she even has internal fights between her personas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698816
Golden Land doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698848
It was physical shitposting. Yasu created horrible posts in physical form and then acted them out.
At times Yasu was a mad Italian, at others a crazy piece of furniture who shouted endlessly about needing Satoko in their life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698848
It was pretending. Shannon is Yasu's imaginary friend/ideal. Kanon is Yasu's edgy alter ego/cope for Battler not coming back. Beatrice is Yasu's power fantasy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698875
wow rude

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698868
Imaginary friends are absolutely not split personalities, dipshit. The internal fights were to portray her internal conflict. No wonder you hate Shkanontrice, you don't even understand it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698868
I think his point is that there's real character conflict there, and the different persona's aren't just cover stories for the murder

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698840
Again, everyone but Keiichi already knew Teppei was an abusive piece of shit and gave up hope trying to save her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698875
she also had conversations with Shannon outside the golden land, in her room. It's clearly split personality.

[Anonymous No.]

At least we can all agree that Tulpas and split personalities and acting and imaginary friends are super healthy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698901
Fucking hell you're dumb. Ange doesn't have 20 split personalities just because she talks to 20 different imaginary friends you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698901
People can picture imaginary friends anywhere. Again, do you think Ange has split personality too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698893
No, we can’t agree.
It’s all just a cover story for the murders written in a series of message bottles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698901
Idiot, just because you start talking to yourself right now doesn't mean you're going to have a second personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698769
George has positives to him, don't get me wrong. He's tenacious, he's confident, he has a clear life plan he won't back down on and he will attempt to improve himself if he can. But the primary issue I have with him is less to do with him, and more to do with how others act about him.
Everyone continues to spout good things about him. They say he's the most dependable, good with children, an excellent leader... Lots of different ideas about him, and yet someone else is better at most of those. There's a reason he has an inferiority complex about Battler, and that's because most things the adults praise about him Battler is actually better at. George has positives, but people continue to praise other aspects at which he isn't the best in.
Plus, he likes to hype himself up, and that always makes someone a bit irritating. He acts like 'the ultimate Ushiromiya leader' against Gaap, and yet he still got his head caved in regardless. God knows why Gaap was acting all amazed about him anyways, considering she easily dealt with him as soon as she stopped holding back anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

LMAOING at this nerd having a heart attack to defend his headcannon

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698868
>>33698901
do you think Rena had multiple personalities as well when she "argues" with another voice in her mind right before telling Keiichi about how he used to shoot kids with bb guns?

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>>33698894
That's Tatarigoroshi/Minagoroshi when he was a complete piece of shit. If you're gonna bring that up them why not include Tataridamashi where Teppei was actually a good guy and K1 as the bad guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698769
George hate is fresh

[Anonymous No.]

This was it for me. Once I saw this, it was all over.

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>>33698901
Everyone already said it, but a big part of EP4 was showing that Ange and Maria have the same potential to be "Beatrices" like Yasu, and they don't have split personalities either. Same deal with Evatrice. Eva talks to Evatrice, still not split personalities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698894
You've missed the whole point of my post. People who have seen flash backs could change. Period.

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>>33698953
>That's Tatarigoroshi/Minagoroshi when he was a complete piece of shit
As in, they knew he was abusive already from his past with Satoko, they don't need to look themselves, literally the second Rika tells them Teppei's back everyone has already decided they need to get rid of him BECAUSE they know he's been an abusive piece of shit in the past to Satoko. Anon what the hell are you doing, making shit up to defend Teppei?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698887
>>33698911
>>33698915
>>33698937
>>33698944

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>>33698901
Assuming you're not just shitposting at this point, here, I'll help you out a bit:
You know the scene in EP2 where Shannon and Beatrice are having a tea party and Kanon comes in and starts attacking Beatrice? There's no split personalities or literal persona fights happening there. It's an embellished version of a single person sitting on the beach torn between happiness from being in a relationship and guilt about leading their boyfriend on with false pretenses and trying to decide what to do. It's one person conflicted about if it's okay to pursue happiness even if it means nonstop lies and eventual disappointment. They only portray is as furniture fighting in their head because that makes it easy to organize and portray feelings, and also because the nature of lies is so extreme Yasu is still afraid to come out and say what it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698453
Why would you turn down a literal cuterori classmate who has a crush on you? Faggot!

[Anonymous No.]

This no longer exists on pixiv.
The artist has nuked everything on his account.

How does this make you feel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698969
I couldn't care less, I'm saying Teppei was always a piece of shit accordnig to the characters themselves BEFORE the events of Tatarigoroshi/Minagoroshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698981
> defend Teppei?
Teppei did nothing wrong. Cope with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699000
Good, that face looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698965
Maria didn't present herself as Sakutaro. Ange didn't present herself as any of the seven sisters. They were more like schizophrenic visions. Yasu, on another hand, presented herself as Kanon, Shannon and Beatrice and assumed their identities completely at that time, even internally. It can't be anything other than split personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699000
These madmen must be stopped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699000
I don't really care about Satoko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699000
That looks awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698756
>he might've slapped Satoko's butt
Who wouldn't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699026
Cosplayers all have split personalities now, got it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699026
You idiot, the murders couldn't have happened in the first place if the personalities were real and not just Yasu pretending because "Shannon" would never accept killing George (or anyone else for that matter) yet "she" does it anyway. Acting out your imaginary friends doesn't mean you have split personalities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698981
And that's the mentality of the village that ostracized the Houjous.
Why do you think R07 never depicted Teppei making Satoko a punching bag all this time and just the aunt with her verbal torture? Also Teppei never abused Satoshi because he was obedient. But why do you think he's abusing Satoko in the Tatari/Minagoroshi even though she is cooperative to him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699026
Shannon, Kanon and Beatrice are literally representative roles for Yasu. She created them to make it easier for her to fulfill one purpose or another. She can control them completely and she literally kills Shannon and Kanon whenever she wants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699048
I would not, that sounds abusive

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698756
This. Remember that tip where Rina says he's an idiot and she's only with him for his dick. She's the one that got him into the criminal underworld and got him acquainted with all that scum. I bet he wasn't a criminal when his wife was still attractive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698993
This interpretation doesn't conflict at all with her personas having an internal conflict because of the stuff you mentioned. Actually, it compliments that interpretation perfectly.

>>33699054
If the person actually thinks they are the character they are cosplaying, then yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699026
The point is that if they continue with their delusions they can fall into "black magic" and end up like Yasu. Plus, Maria presented herself as a second "witch" personality. Ange eventually killed "Ange" to live on as Yukari. Neither Yukari nor witch Maria are second personalities in a medical sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699068
What part of EVERYONE knew Teppei was abusive to her before the events of Tatarigoroshi/Minagoroshi did you miss? Quit this headcanon nonsense already

Teppei himself explicitly admits he used to punch Satoko in the past, what more do you want?

[Anonymous No.]

eva

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699064
she wasn't ''shannon'' when she killed george. Come on now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698981

There's always this thin line where R07 could make the uncle a very abusive person, but the scenes showed in the VN was always with the aunt. And that pretty much proved that he's not as horrible as the aunt during those times. I mean.. They even wrote it there in the vn. lol
I'm too lazy to pick it up for you though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699110
Imagine being Ange and having to put up with this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699111
She was Kanon when she killed Jessica.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699115
Dude, stop, you're not gonna make Teppei a good guy with your bullshit. He punched Satoko in the past, every character but Keiichi knew he was abusive deadbeat in the past, end of story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699106
>While I can't deny that he might've slapped Satoko's butt once or thrice because she was an annoying and disobedient brat, though probably not even close as depicted in the other fragments that made Satoko mind broken.

speed reader.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33696857
I would understand hating Ep7 if not for the god tier tea party

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699102
So they killed the second persona, I don't see how that invalidates the split personality idea. Yuraki is clearly Ange starting from scratch with a new name, thou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699124
If Yasu could control her personas and change whenever she wanted, she could change just for the killing and revert back or any BS like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699136
So what you're saying is that you're full of shit and are desperately making up headcannon and assumptions to defend Teppei and pretend he didn't beat up Satoko in the past and that every character knew he was a piece of shit before tatari/minagoroshi, gotcha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>33699000
>That looks awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699115
Never mind the impenetrable sheep, I've said before that Teppei isn't exactly finished scum.
>>33696182
>>33696239

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699122
Ange knows when she's beat.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine spanking Satoko's naked ass and getting to feel her soft, squishy butt cheeks!

[Anonymous No.]

The 'personalities' are just a stupid trick that Beato can use to get around the red truth. Yasu is always the same person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699133
He's not a good guy. lol
But he's definitely not as abusive as in the Tatarigoroshi/Minagoroshi chapter. That's stated in the vn. So my point is that he could still change and atone for his sin. (he cant atone for the other timelines obviously) That simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699122
Imagine being Ange

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699164
I never said Teppei is irredeemable, the whole remembering past arcs magic can seemingly make even the devil a good guy. I'm responding to bullshit trying to downplay his actions in the past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698756
While I agree that the aunt seemed worse, there is also Teppei saying this. So he did hit her and the way he is apologizing and the way he wasn't surprised by her flinching doesn't seem to me like someone who is sorry for slapping Satoko's butt once or thrice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699172
Yasu's backstory say otherwise. Of course, you can say it's unreliable narration, but you can say the same about 99% of the VN. I don't see anything that contradicts the clear split personality interpretation.

[Anonymous No.]

Are any of the PS2 through PS4 or DS versions of Higurashi worth it?

[Anonymous No.]

Are you guys fucking seriously debating if Teppei abused Satoko

What the hell is this fragment

[Anonymous No.]

Teppei is the best thing in Gou so far.
I'm a sucker for redemption arcs, thou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699177
>But he's definitely not as abusive as in the Tatarigoroshi/Minagoroshi chapter.
This whole time you've been trying to defend him claiming "no the AUNT was the abusive one" and "no he was just abusive in tatarigoroshi!". When in reality he punched Satoko before, he himself admitted it, and every character knew he had to be removed right away lest Satoko completely lose her mind, because he was the scum of the earth based off his actions in the past.

I don't care if he can become good, I don't care if the aunt was worse or not, I'm saying he was trash incarnate in the past, quit downplaying things, quit bringing up comparisons that don't change facts.

Quit denying the fact that Teppei was objectively an abusive piece of shit who beat up Satoko and gave her PTSD which is something everyone but Keiichi knew before the events of Tatarigoroshi/Minagoroshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699227
>Are you guys fucking seriously debating if Teppei abused Satoko
She lied about her father abusing her before, who knows if that little devil isn't lying again? Fucking Hojos man, you can never trust what they say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699096
>If the person actually thinks they are the character they are cosplaying, then yes.
But Yasu doesn't think that. She knows it's all fake. At no point when dressing up as Kanon does Yasu ever not know Kanon isn't imaginary and seriously believes he's Yoshiya, the little brother of Shannon. It's all a pretend LARP.

[Anonymous No.]

i cannot tell you how much i want to peg ushiromiya lion

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699208
Well obviously. Though my argument is that not as worse as to make Satoko mind broken, since the aunt is the main abuser during those years. But I'm definitely not downplaying his shitty and horrible behavior. I'm just stating the fact the he did not as worse like in the Tatari and Minagoroshi chapter that made Satoko a broken doll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699227
teppai was a gudboi, dindu nuffin

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699254
jayden please, keep your rampant homosexuality to one series

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699213
Of course it's fucking unreliable narration, do you think Yasu literally saw Gaap take control her body to make the keys dance around in the air?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699254
It's not pegging if you have a dick anon, it's sodomy. You want to sodomize Lion. At least say it right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699227
My guess is that the latest episode made some people suddenly try to look at Teppei's actions in the past in a better light, no matter how desperate they have to get.

Rina could get redeemed next and these people would suddenly defend her past actions too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699257
"kokyuu dekinai"

- Houjou Teppei or something

[Anonymous No.]

K1 was completely justified in killing Teppei in Tatarigoroshi.
Behead those who harm your imouto.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699278
WTC is one series

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699254
How much?
Oh I'm sorry nevermind you can't tell me

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699213
You're italianon levels of arrogant.

[Anonymous No.]

Teppei was an absolute piece of shit, but I think he should get this chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699303
Irie got redeemed and he was way worse than Teppei, Teppei definitely should get his chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>they read the VN and really didn't realize that Satoko was pretending to be abused and that in fact Teppei was a good guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699310
this, teppei dindu nuffin. that abuse scene Keiichi saw when he went to visit her? l5 hallucination, simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699282
Even the last episode spelled it out with absolute fucking clarity. Satoko has horrible trauma from his abuse, he admitted doing it and we are shown a short flashback of it happening.

What the hell is going on in this fragment.
Teppei Syndrome?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699253
The magical elements are clearly unreliable narration, they are a fragment of Yasu's mind, just like her split personality personas. If she was just faking the other characters, the scenes of her personas having a debate would make zero sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699310
>they played the entire game without realizing this

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699306
Did Teppei ever thought him beating up Satoko would be beneficial to anyone other than himself?

[Anonymous No.]

Teppei is a dumb name

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699330
Yes, Keiichi had L5 and the syndrome was looking for a reason to kill the innocent Teppei. Cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699351
It sounds italian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699302
Nice argument. I guess it's settled now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699331
People are a bit retarded and unable to come to terms with the fact that Satoko is absolutely perfect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699359
You're just ignoring everyone's arguments about how it literally cannot be split personalities and going "HE TALKED TO THEM = 100% CONFIRMED SPLIT PERSONALITIES LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU", shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699356
It sounds like a goofy nickname to a real italian name

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699360
Satoko is garbage that needs to be disposed of, to be perfectly frank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699371
check out my previous posts responding to those people, retard-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699354
I agreed with you, why tell me to cope? teppei is innocent, he didn't make Satoko buy him and his friends beer, that was a hallucination too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699380
I know you're using that as a defense mechanism against the syndrome, but it won't work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699380
I am willing to take care of this garbage. Please leave it to me. I insist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699331
I agree but I think the shown flashback is from the Minagoroshi fragment from Satoko's loop. I wonder if her PTSD have become worse after her 100 years travel.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Why didn't she give a fuck about Teppei after 100 years? Why didn't her PTSD go away? She lived fucking 100 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699333
They make complete sense. I guess they'd be confusing to a person with so little emotional depth they've never felt internally conflicted about something before though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699381
I literally just summarized your answer to them, and you didn't respond to a bunch of them, liar. Do you also think Gaap is a split personality even though he has the exact same interactions with her as he does with Shannon, Kanon and Beatrice? Oh but that one doesn't count, right? Because he's...not acting as her and that makes it different?

Hey genius, split personality would mean the murders could never be carried out, he needs full control at all times, he needs to be able to fake their personas and change at will at all times, that's not something split personalities do, that's something a master of disguise does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699331
The trauma was primarily from the aunt, he was merely associated with it because he was there and SOFTLY, LOVINGLY hit her once or twice. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699428
Vietnam war vets have ptsd 60 years later you know, that's not how it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699302
>ad hominem
This anon has lost the argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699430
responded here:>>33699333
and here: >>33699154
Yasu shifts between her personas at will, but that doesn't mean the personas aren't real to her.

>>33699429
ah, the emotional argument. You could say that...dare I say it? That...without love it cannot be seen

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699428
She gave a fuck but she have a proper goal this time than to invest in that one fragment.

>Why didn't her PTSD go away
I dont think it's that easy. She needs a proper psychiatrist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699446
Yes, but they live in the same fragment. Satoko has lived a lot of fragments and most likely in some she has had contact with Teppei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699459
He's gotten several explanations that he's ignored with his retarded "he talked to them ergo i win :)" logic, I'll argue back when he responds to them, he hasn't addressed mine either.

[Anonymous No.]

Why? Why did Satoko Syndrome evolve this fast? It shouldn't be possible.... it's becoming Houjou Syndrome... humanity is already...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699477
Cope. You lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699446
Worse than that. They've only seem war once. Satoko, after living through t, saw her uncle abuse her in several of the fragments during those 100 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699477
Already responded. Step it up, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699430
It's funny because anon started out by saying they hated Shkanontrice because of split personalities, now they refuse to see it any other way. They are actively arguing for making the story worse for them for no reason. Amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't normally save stuff by w*stern artists but this is pretty cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699509
It's only 1 anon arguing with his imaginary friends and acting it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699428
Because unlike with Satoshi she actually relieves Tepei's abuse in the Tatari-like fragments and Minagoroshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699470
Then it's not split personalities. Unless you don't understand the difference between split personalities, personas, and imaginary friends and are just throwing buzzwords around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33698938
I guess it's just the favorite child phenomenon. People also value confidence and perceived wisdom. I guess even demons like Gaap value that kind of thing too. It's not like we see they were heaping praise on Battler or Jessica constantly. It's like that with Lion and Jessica as well, it's not like it's something surprising or anything. There's always a favorite golden child in big rich families. George was like the closest to it and the eldest. Everyone else was doing their own thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699474
...And? What difference does that make? Also the 100 years is from watching Rika's fragments, not 100 years of living in new fragments, not that it matters. Satoko's hatred of him would only be cemented more and more, this is clearly the first time he has been good to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699509
The fuck are you talking about? Are you saying anyone that disliked shkanontrice should delude themselves into believing it's not the real explanation to the VN? I think you took the escapist message of Umineko to heart, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699515
Anime is based off old disney movies ergo anime artstyle is western by default.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699547
>Are you saying anyone that disliked shkanontrice should delude themselves into believing it's not the real explanation to the VN?
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699527
I'm sure you're the local expect on imaginary friends, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699428
Because unlike with Satoshi who is left out from Rika's later loops she actually saw Tepei's abuse again in the Tatari-like fragments and Minagoroshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699474
Judging from her reaction, it's seems like that was the first time in a while after becoming a looper, since Satoko's loop follows the Matsuri route. Though the club activity still seems random.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699548
>monkeys evolved from fish or w/e so we're fish

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699481
Satoko syndrome made people defend Satoko's horrible actions. Now Houjou syndrome is making people downplay Teppei's actions in the past. Wouldn't surprise me if people suddenly and conveniently dropped all their attacks on Satoko's aunt if there was a fragment where she changed too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699570
Monkeys don't imitate fish. Anime imitates Disney.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699481
It had already evolved on me to the point I've been looking for characters that are similar to Satoko

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699594
*evolved from disney

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699528
I've just always found it sort of funny how everyone praises George like he's the second coming of Kinzo, while Battler literally is just young Kinzo. Battler's almost overlooked, in a way, despite how everyone was acting as if it was some great event that he was returning in the earlier episodes. It's as if they were more happy that an Ushiromiya hadn't left them permanently, rather than that Battler had returned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699575
What horrible actions? She's done nothing wrong at all. I don't know what people should be defending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699547
If you don't like it based on a fake understanding of it and people try to correct that understanding, but then you want to cling to something you hate this hard, something is wrong with your head anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699628
They seem to think putting r*ka in her place is evil for some reason?? In truth it is merely justice that the angel Satoko is fairly delivering.

[Anonymous No.]

No. Teppei Syndrome conflicts with Satoko Syndrome. To say Teppei did nothing wrong is to admit Satoko did something wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699628
Here's one of the poor victims, you need an injection.

[Anonymous No.]

Considering Satoko a positive character when she literally kills Rika just for fun, and not just Rika but all her friends, but considering Teppei a bad character just because he patted Satoko on the butt a bit is the top of the line, or just gender discrimination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699676
Be quiet liar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699663
Indeed. What a piece of garbage Rika is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699674
Nah, you can defend both by blaming Satoko's delusions on L5, the evil Hanyuu disease that made her lie about innocent little Teppei, poor girl!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699575
But Satoko has done nothing bad.
How cruel of you to say something like that...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699687
This, Teppei has literally never done anything bad. I would pat Satoko's butt too and I'm a good guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699639
my ''fake'' understanding? Why don't you present a valid argument that denies my ''fake'' interpretation, anon? I'm not saying that the split personalities are real just because Yasu talks with them, I'm saying a lot of scenes in ch.7 would not make narrative sense if that wasn't the case. For instance, the debate between Yasu (or Beatrice) and Shannon are clearly an internal debate of Yasu caused by all the conflicts in her life, and it manifested like that: a debate between split personalities that fight for different things and believe in different things. Having the personalities be nothing more than some sort of ''legal loophole'' in the gameboard makes no narrative sense for a lot of scenes (specially in ch.7).

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699676
You and your goddamn needles. Rena was justified in not taking your shit medicine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699687
You're right, Satoko is just a piece of shit who deserves to go through all seven gates of hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699714
And Hanyuu = Rika since Rika is the reincarnation of Oyashiro-sama and Oyashiro-sama = Hanyuu. THIS IS LITERALLY ALL RIKAS FAULT SHE IS PURE EVIL

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699734
Not him but do you also think Evatrice having a discussion with Eva means that Eva suffers from split personality?

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I could go back to reading the question arcs for the first time again

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699769
higurashi or umi

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699769
It was all downhill after ch. 3 lads...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699769
you can read Erikantrice Manifesto

[Anonymous No.]

>rika's attempts to save her crazy friends for over a century is literally just her telling them to "take their meds"

[Anonymous No.]

Rika should accept her status as garbage. Beg for forgiveness as I hug her pathetic ass. Pukespittle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699761
I don't remember if it fits together as well as Shkanontrice, but yeah, something like that. Evatrice is the part of Eva that never let go of her selfish, delusional dreams. If Eva never manifested AS Evatrice, maybe you could say it's more of a schizo thing or something, at this point it's spliting hairs with medical terms. The point is that Evatrice is a ''different person'' in Eva's mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699810
If Rika is garbage then Satoko is subgarbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699837
t. Rika

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699801
>tfw you realize literally the core message of WTC as a whole is "take your meds"

[Anonymous No.]

Yasu acted as Kinzo in ep4 therefore he's one of his split personalities.

[Anonymous No.]

Did Satoko have an interest in traps before she went terminal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699867
Does K1 in drag count as a trap?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699815
> The point is that Evatrice is a ''different person'' in Eva's mind.
That is, Eva doesn't have a split personality because she doesn't think Evatriсe is her personality and doesn't recognize it, but Yasu does. Duality in all its glory.

[Anonymous No.]

No fighting!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699865
There were several scenes of Yasu acting as Kinzo alone and believing she was Kinzo? No? Then maybe she was just acting as Kinzo and you're trying to pass some low IQ false equivalence argument.

[Anonymous No.]

You will listen to the queen carrier
You will donate your savings to the Furude Shrine
You will give me wine and spicy kimchi for free
You will not massacre my stupid hick village
You will pay for my tuition so I can enroll in a prestigious school so I can experience high society with my retard friend

And most importantly:
>>>/y/ou+will+love+me

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699867
Anon please, I know Satoshi is girly and all but, surely you're not suggesting Satoko got into traps because of him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699883
That's literally the opposite of how split personalities work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699878
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699888
no thanks lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699888
M-my Satoko syndrome...I-it's weakening...
I...I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA I LOVE RIKA

[Anonymous No.]

I want to hold a scared L5 Rena in my arms while she starts shaking and babbling on about Hinamizawa aliens or whatever. Then she'd tell me if i ever told anyone else or abandoned her she'd stab me and everything would be perfect

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699886
https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/Our_Confession

Maybe this TIP will help you understand how Yasu works, anon. There is only one Yasu, only one personality. When she portrays otherwise, it's her writing fiction and playing around with her imaginary OCs.

[Anonymous No.]

We will finish by saying that this "split personality" cannot be confirmed in practice, and all maniacs with a "split personality" simply made excuses for themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699888
You're absolute garbage Rika. I will make sure you suffer by inviting you over to dinner and making sure you have a good stance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699920
That doesn't sound perfect at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699883
>but Yasu does
Plus Evatrice is also a depiction of what the goats thought of Eva inside the cat box and after the incident. .
An evil witch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699920
This but with Erika (forma de intellectual rapado).

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699920
>tfw L5 rena was actually right about the """gardeners"""
The aliens are real guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699888
Rika-chama, why did you link to >>>/y/? You shouldn't be browsing that kind of stuff...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699946
That's also why Evatrice is not susceptible to becoming a witch without Battler approval. Because she's already treated as a witch outside the cat box.

[Anonymous No.]

Who has the stronger sharingan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699931
I don't know if this expansion is considered canon or not, but all I've been saying so far was about the 8 main chapters, anon. If there is anything in the main piece of work that contradicts the split personality interpretation, I would love to know about it. It could make shkanontrice slightly (but only slightly) less disappointing to me in a future reread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699952
Rapado means shaved head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699984
Ooishi

[Anonymous No.]

>>33697134
It was only unbearable when Ange was learning how to use magic. Shit was boring as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699956
crossposter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699888
Who even cares about Satoko if she's still a dumb kid after going through 100 years of various fragments, Rika at least raised her charisma and presents herself as a mentally mature woman.

[Anonymous No.]

Satoko does no wrong. She does everything in the name of guiding humanity down the right path. Now before the goddess of 15 blonde pubes

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699984
Eua said it was Satoko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699976
Rika is over a hundred years old. Don't you think she would have become curious about some things at some point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700029
But that was only because Rika couldn't remember her last moments, which now she's able to after holo-Hanyuu gave her her power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700021
>Rika at least raised her charisma and presents herself as a mentally mature woman.

The physically mature department is a bit lacking..

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699996
It's canon, written by Ryukishi, and was included in the Saku and Switch re-releases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699976
Kawaii chinpo nano desu!~

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700030
Satoko saw all of Rika's perversions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700044
It's okay they'll inflate when she becomes a witch

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699984
Satoko's witch eyes look more human than Rika's.
Rika's are completely black inside the ring, and the ring is more radiant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700021
No tits, can't figure out anything because she never does anything to change her situation, can't go to the bathroom at night without Satoko....

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700021
Rika is literally out-matured by Keiichi in Minagoroshi even though she's 100. Age only made her petty, complacent and lazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700030
We must ensure she develops healthy sexual interests and doesn't turn into a rotten fujoshi!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700044
>>33700059
>they STILL haven't realized that rika is one of yasu's personalities that has yet to come to terms with the fact he's male

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700051
There is no way Rika, who was constantly making dirty jokes and using innuendo, and who literally sniffed Satoko's pillow on occasion, never tried doing anything lewd to her during her 100 years.

[Anonymous No.]

Sucking on Rika's mosquito bites

[Anonymous No.]

>>33699996
>>33700048
Also this TIP was written as an epilogue to be a lens help readers understand the main story. It's okay if it wasn't as easy for you to get how Yasu's mind works anon, people think and are raised in different ways, but this (intended) reading fits the main story perfectly well. Since you dislike it less I hope you can adjust to it to make Umineko better for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700083
I wish I could smell something that Satoko laid her perfect head on...

[Anonymous No.]

Anon-kun, hau aua auuua auu hauuuu... au au au au auauau auu. Hauuuu, cream puff onegai. auauauuu... Boku wa hara hetta nano desu... auu auuu hauauau auuu au au auuu. Hauuu au auauauuuu

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700059
Bern pads her chest (according to pachinko).

[Anonymous No.]

Rika should be subjected to 100 years of licking Satoko's unmentionables

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700091
Could you please post in English or Japanese thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700098
Rika should be locked in a room while naked with 5 anons from this thread for 100 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700091
Jesus I wanna beat Hanyuu to death so bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700051
Payback.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700098
I am willing to take Rika's sins upon me and suffer her punishment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700097
according to pachinko all the adult women look like transvestites who are always high as balls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700113
I wanna cut her open and rip her innards out so bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700110
She should be subjected to get used to drinking multiple litres of anon cum every single day straight from the tap

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700086
>>33700048
Thank you, anon. I'll read it during my next re-read of Umineko. Assuming this TIP chapter confirms that interpretation, I'll try to interpret the main chapters in a new light. But I don't like how the main story seemingly suggests the split personality interpretation, only to have an extra chapter ''retcon'' this interpretation. Maybe there is something in the main chapters that speaks against the split personalities, I'll have to check for that (no one here mentioned anything so far).

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700091
Someone damaged her horns even further and now she can't even speak. What a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine if Rika was subjected to 100 years of h-having her t-t-tummy touched... ha... ha, t-that would be terrible, j-just imagine...

[Anonymous No.]

How can she wear this and have any semblance of dignity

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700116
I don't remember this scene being like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700221
God this looks so fucking stupid (in a good way :))

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700233
Clearly you haven't watched the blu ray version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700164
Imagine your face being Featherine's neet chair for centuries

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700233
your version sounds boring

[Anonymous No.]

What's this script you wrote, child of man? "Bernkastel's tummy touching fragment?" It sounds entertaining. Tell me more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33697975
My theory is that Joji had a micro penis and being as fat as he is he couldn't have had sex with anyone at all, that's why he avoided pushing the issue further.

If only Battler (who inherited Kinzo's above average penis and libido) had pursued Sayo he'd have pressured her into having sex and consequently into revealing her secret, they would then have had lots of butt sex, inherited the fortune, married, adopted a kid from the fukuin house and lived happily ever after.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700294
Stop looking at my diary

[Anonymous No.]

Rika should be forced to lick Satoko's sweaty feet for 100 years.

[Anonymous No.]

HOLY SHIT TURN ON 4GAMER.NET

PHASE 2 JUST GOT ANNOUNCED

[Anonymous No.]

>>33696577
okay now do this with a pp

[Anonymous No.]

>>33700069
Nah she's just energy conservative.
If she went all out killing herself over card games like Satoko she'd go stupid and forget her objective too.

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>>33700341
I'M SHAKING AND CUMMING RIGHT NOW
I CAN'T BELIEVE HE MADE LILJA THE PROTAG

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owww

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PHASE 3 IN 30 MINUTES
A GAUNTLET KNIGHT JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

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HOLY SHIT HE'S RELEASING THE ANSWERS ARC BEFORE EVEN ANNOUNCING PHASE 4 THE ABSOLUTE MADLAD

THE WALLS OF PEACE ARE LITERALLY CLOSING IN

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>>33699110
whoa
more

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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST HE JUST ANNOUNCED A TWO HOUR LONG MOVIE THAT'S JUST SATOKO AND RIKA FUCKING AND CALLED IT CICONIA PHASE 5

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Bernkastel's lips.

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>>33697093
Enter
Imperator
Princeps Civitas
Pontifex Maximus
GAIUS
JULIUS
CAESAR
AUGUSTUS
AUAURORA

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>>33700347
Don't "nah" me, in a hundred years she couldn't figure something as simple as daring to ask her friends and gave up extremely easily, she's a conceited child who only got more complacent as she got older, never trying out new things or anything. That's why she gives out so easily, by the end Rika was extremely conceited, petty and childish. She doesn't want to put in the effort and Keiichi proved her wrong.

Rika admitted it herself and said she was wrong, don't try to excuse her with contrivances and assumptions just cause you like her.

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Oh and the best part is that Rika immediately forgot that arc ever existed in the next one.

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>>33699952
Personally, I want Erika to tie me to a chair and starve me. She would only come in every three or so days to give me a single glass of water alongside a thin piece of mouldy bread. Eventually after months trapped in Erika's basement on this starvation diet I would be reduced to nothing but a stick-thin twig rotting in my own shit and piss on the verge of death as my body began to waste away.

At this point Erika would burst in and say that she has begun to tire of me and is now prepared to give me a luscious last meal out of pity before she executes me. She’d paint wonders of the delicious pancakes drizzled with syrup along with the finest grilled steak and refreshing drinks that would be prepared by someone of her status, and I would nod along like the eager animal that all humans reduced to that bestial state are. Erika would then leave the room and the countdown would begin. Hours would pass as my head is filled with nothing but thoughts of the great banquet that awaits me with the taste of hot food that I had not experienced in months. Then, interrupting my fantasies, Erika would kick open the door and reveal not the delectable delights of pancakes and cola but instead a rope. She would then proceed to hang me from the ceiling in the Strappado position in which my hands are tied behind my back and I am suspended up by my wrists for the sole purpose of dislocating my shoulders.

After hearing the sickening pop after about an hour or so, Erika would let me down and proceed to hold a lighter to my now naked waste-covered stick-thin body and laugh as I wriggled on the floor unable to escape her burning light of justice. However, in my position I would be nothing but a worm crawling around on the ground with useless dislocated shoulders that make my arms flop about in a hilarious manner. Yet again, hours would pass and my entire body would be covered in horrific burns inflicted upon me by Erika-sama. I would not be able to cry to relieve this pain however, as my body could not even begin to produce enough water to waste on something as pathetic as relieving my unrelenting agony. Once Erika has grown bored with this, she would pull out a slightly dull knife and begin slicing my disgustingly tiny penis down the middle of my peehole to the point where is split in half down to belly. She would then leave the room forever, forgetting about my existence the moment she stepped outside while I scream in utter torment and agony until my bleeding cockwound finally carries me to the afterlife, where I would be promptly sent to hell.

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>>33700637
quit posting this.

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>>33700650
No.

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>>33700637
I would like to protect and care for her, unfortunately, she does not exist and she would probably attempt to kill me.

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I want Erika to take me to a mirror and blow out my brains out with a Shotgun so that my last sight on this earth is my shuddering naked body with a dog collar on being pulled around by her. It would be the ultimate humiliation.

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>>33700588
She admitted she was wrong in Tsumi, I posted a picture of after that to throw doubt on your claim she was "out matured" whatever that means in Minagoroshi.
I'm not trying to excuse anything, but people like to fill in the blanks with their head fantasies. She didn't stop trying new things, she slowed it down to a crawl in order to do endurance running, which is what was her wrong mindset. Complacent yes, but void of action it wasn't exactly. There is nuance. I like her because of the nuance, and the ability to fall into a bad mindset yet admit she's wrong hundreds of years into her life.

Also why I posted that image in Tsumi, she says around that spot that she's been in that situation before but resisting never amounted to something. She has tried before you see. It's more complicated than you make it sound, her psychology.

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fEatherine aUgustus Aurora

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>>33700487
around my

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>>33700810
Isn't it just supposed so be "aue" backwards since hanyuu says that all the time and featherine = hanyuu? Or does it not have the e when she says it? I can't remember shit.

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>>33700841
popsicle that I just gave her

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>>33700851
Why did you steal anon's popsicle and give it to her?

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sEshat gUnhild gustAfsson

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mitakE U. miyAo

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>>33700881
How can she live with herself when she literally wears clothes and everyone can see them? Wearing clothes means she's ashamed of her pathetic naked body, so in a way it's even more embarrassing than being naked! Everyone can already imagine what her human body looks like under her clothes, so the clothes do nothing but expose her insecurities and shame! She's double exposed!

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>>33700983
She is most likely an old man in a young body

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Chloe fucks old men for pleasure.

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>>33701053
You are a smelly hick/finnish monkey and your opinion DOES NOT matter

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>>33701060
Canadian hands typed this post

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>>33701053

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>>33701073
BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTT

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>>33701073
I'm a Canadian ojisan and I'd fuck Chloe's brains out

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>>33701087
oh fug halp bbzzzdtttt aaaa fugg id hurds xDDDDD

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>>33701053
give me your bagged milk

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>>33701110
It's not gonna make your tits bigger

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How does Chloe even live knowing that one misplaced karate chop by Okonogi that passes her head by mere centimetres would send his hand tumbling down past her face straight into her tits, and because of her dress her giant Canadian bagged milkers would spill out and be revealed to literally all of her comrades who would proceed to record it with their selcom and spread it around the internet ensuring that Canada will never again be taken seriously on the world stage?

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>>33701140
To people even care about countries anymore anyways? It's all about the different Unions now.

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Chloe-milking chapter

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Name a larger VN release.
This thing will probably take 500 hours to read.

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>>33701161
>English release never
not interested

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>>33701207
EOP, I.....

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>>33701157
The reading I got out of it was that all of the Unions were highly centralised supranational unions like a future version of the current European Union. There are still like individual countries with their own armies and cultures and languages and people and there's still strong identification with these countries, it's just that they all delegate stuff to the wider AOU/COU/ABN/LATO.

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>>33701159
Chloe's milk cures hinamizawa syndrome

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>>33701161
I can almost see Rika's nipple.

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>>33701221
There was that one point in the story where AOU America did something or other to avoid angering AOU Russia and risking separation. There is also that one point whre Lingji talks to Miyao about China's old issues with Japan and vice-versa which ends with them arguing about food, so I think you're right.

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>>33701266
Rika's green dress is constantly just one strong breeze or one wide arm movement away from indecent exposure.

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>he didn't unlock the secret Chloe breastfeeding chapter where Grave Mole gets stranded in a blizzard with no food or supplies in a training mission and they end up relying on her milk to survive lest they get drowsy due to starvation and freeze to death in the cold

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>call it phase 1
>it's actually the only phase that was ever played
RYYYUUUUSHIIIIIIIIKKKIIIIIIIIIIII

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>>33701312
*planned

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>>33701309
Wasn't that data fragment 17?
Chloe was in charge of supplies for the mission but "forgot" to bring them
She remembered to bring a breast pump though

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>>33701309
>>33701377
It was pretty rude when Koshka said her breast milk was gross but kept going back for seconds

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Leaving this here, for no particular reason.

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What's Lambda's equivalent of the tummy touching fragments?

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>>33701299

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>>33701407
Feet tickling

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>>33701407
vore fragments

remember when she turned bern into a konpeitou and ate her? so

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>>33701407
There's a hellish fragment out there where countless Endless Anons lined up and licked Lambda's legs for an unknown amount of time.

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What kind of video games would Lambda play?

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>>33701549
Visual Novels

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>>33701549
Candy Crush

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>>33701549
Games with no thinking required.

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One of these is not like the others

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>>33701598
Yes, look at how long it took for Gou to come out, (2020), damn

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>>33701598
>>33701612
Wait, no, that is not it. Actually, now I notice what you wanted us to see, the last one doesn't have a release date!

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>>33695310
Ange canonically pooped her diapers and had to cry for help until someone cleaned up her mess

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>>33701161
Quadruple as the Bible

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>>33701705
I am unsure as to what exactly compelled you to post this.

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>>33701705
Who was the good samaritan to wipe Ange's shitty ass?

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>>33701207
We already have Umineko Project and 07th Mod. 07th, like, have been translating Higu Console arcs, and only Hajisarashi and Kotohogushi haven't been translated yet. You can read them right now.

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UWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AHHHHHHHHHHH OHH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDD AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>33701862
shut it!

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>>33695310
What's she singing?

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>>33701951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPHmFM4SQ9g&ab_channel=valg

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>>33701862
YAKAMASHII

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>>33701951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJQjWKq7vrc

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>>33701951
https://youtu.be/vHWhGJxnZpU

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>>33701951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU7D66TuHkE&ab_channel=Maseeru
DAAAME DAAME DAME DAME NINGEN DAAAAAME NINGEN NINGEEEEN

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why is Ange so cringe

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>>33702587
she dyes her hair just cause her brother does it too.

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>>33699855
Many of the main cast are implied to be a addicted to the medication, but can't be helped, must maintain P3 levels.

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Is mii-chan secretly a masochist who gets off to shamefully exposing her own body to her friends?

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>>33703001
You misunderstand. I know the reasons why Ange is cringe, I mean why does Ange act so embarrassing? Is there any way to save her or is it just lethal injection time?

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>>33703182
Yes actually. She tries to act bashful but actually has as much of an exhibitionism fetish as her sister. They also share the same degenerate fetish for crossdressing men.

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>>33703408
Mion got TOO into it during the keiichi crossdressing sequence. What kind of "friend" would keep teasing you and whispering sweet nothings into your ear into such an embarassing situation anyways?

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Lambda pit licking fragments.

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>>33703461
It has a familiar taste.

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>>33699888
Yes my queen

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>>33702587
I'm not cringe...

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>>33703627
I dread this foul abomination.

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>>33703627
Cute, adorable, and definitely not bullyable!

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>>33698359
>>33698445
Makes more sense if you assume Kinzotrice. Genji is just Kinzo's furniture, so he'd also possess his obsession with Beatrice and his guilt over raping his daughter and almost getting his grandchild killed. He also fucking hated his entire family.

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>>33698612
It is. Yasu==Jessica really spices up her relationship with Natsuhi and Kinzo. It's also EXTREMELY depressing, even worse than Shkanontrice! Since you can now throw all the school episodes into the catbox and claim that she made up having friends and playing in a band, and didn't even have Shannon. She was completely alone her entire life, her only relationships were with her own brothers/nephews.
Then on his deathbed, her (grand)father tells her the truth, and she learns that she's infertile, the product of incestuous rape, her own mother tried to kill her, and her birth father has been actively avoiding and ignoring her her entire life even though he was the one person on the island who actually cared about her. Then he dies.

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I'm feeling kind of depressed because of Gou, anons. What should I read to cheer myself up?

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>>33704100
have you already read all of the other meme kamige VNs that aren't actually that good like subahibi?

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>>33704177
I can't believe Kinzo is a chuuni hikki

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Satoko Syndrome L7

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>>33704100
get over yourself and stop being depressed over a fucking cartoon you little bitch

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>>33705593
Chill out retard it's a turn of phrase.