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Hello /jp/,

I´m going to play Fate/Stay Night after long time. I have saves from before so i´ll start at UBW route. What should i expect? Is it better or worse than Fate route?

>> No.3355637
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3355637

Better.

>> No.3355635

If not a troll, then brace for opinions.
If a troll, then enjoy your opinions and "RAAAAAGEEEE".

>> No.3355639

Why don't you just play and find out?

I hate these threads.

>> No.3355643

>>3355635

OP here: I´m not troll, i played Fate route before more than 9 months.

>> No.3355653

>>3355643
We are still waiting for UBW installer.

>> No.3355654

>>3355639

I fapped whole day and my head feels dizzy. After i recover a little i´ll play.

>> No.3355655

>i´ll start at UBW route
Expect the best route with the most amazing chracters, Rin and Archer.
The first half is generic and stupid with Caster but then it gets fuck awesome.
My heart beat faster near the end.

>> No.3355660

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SvUdtHQSXA

better

>> No.3355661

>>3355643
Fate is more I MUST SUCCEED and immortality. UBW actually has Shirou accepting the consequences of his actions/ideals and figuring out why he really wants what he wants.

Plus more fighting, better fighting, Lancer, Rin being useful, etc.

>> No.3355801

After finishing UBW, just stop right there, no need to play Heaven's Fail because it doesn't even compare.

>> No.3355819

>>3355801
Hahahaha, sure bro.

>> No.3355822

>>3355801
If you don't play all the routes, you miss not only plot events, but characters being fully fleshed out and seeing aspects of them you didn't know due to the different situations.
You either read them all or you don't.

>> No.3355840

Heaven's Feel is the best route. Fate's the worst.

Fate serves to build up the world
UBW serves to develop the Servants.
HF serves as the climatic finish.

>> No.3355854

HF was here, UBW is loser.

>> No.3355855

>>3355840
Sorry, but UBW is still better than HF. Caster, as lame as she can be, is STILL a better villain than Sakura and Zouken.

>> No.3355870

>>3355855
I heavily attribute that to Souchiro's presence, as the motherfucking fist of the North Star.

>> No.3355918

Fate - "Oh gee it sure is great to have a retarded set of ideals, I'm glad nobody points this out to me"

UBW - "Yes my ideals are retarded, but fuck you I'm following them anyway"

HF - "Dat ass"

Everyone who says HF is just a normal-fag in disguise.

>> No.3355927

>Everyone who says HF is just a normal-fag in disguise.
That's bullshit.
For starters, Ilya has the biggest appearance in HF.
It's also a lot more depressing and the ending makes you feel like a bitch.

>> No.3355950

HF is only tolerable because of Ilya and Kotomine. UBW is actually awesome.

>> No.3355969
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3355969

this is the only path.

I have no regrets.


MIND OF STEEL

>> No.3355992

MIND OF STEEL is for shounenfags

>> No.3355997

If you want Mind of Steel, read Fate/Zero.

>> No.3355998

You're not supposed to judge individual routes; you're supposed to judge it as a whole.
It's like how you don't tell people when reading a book: "Chapter 1 is shit, chapter 2 is good, and chapter 3 is shit. Read chapter 2, skip the rest."

>> No.3356000

>>3355992
Except actual mentality is unlike most shounen action series hero(shounen is not a genre), but whatever.
For the most part, Shirou is unlike most hero teens in manga, he is more like western comics traits combined in a eastern presentation.

>> No.3356009

>>3355998
Read the Arya and Tyrion chapters and skip the rest.

>> No.3356017

>>3355969
Fuck, Sunny Days is the end that i like the most.... even if it is fake.....
What is wrong with wanting a good end..

>> No.3356028

>>3356009
Sansa turns out GAR in book 4 though. It's so interesting to see how she develop from Twilight fangirl into something way different.

Don't forget Jaime. He's hot.

>> No.3356031

>>3355950
Roll Illya and Kotomine over into UBW path, and you have no need for HF.

Kotomine vs. Shirou after the Gilgamesh fight, somehow. Illya being moe, instead of having her heart ripped out.

>> No.3356044

>>3356031
You didn't think the GilxIllya scene was hot?

Fuck you, White_Ren

>> No.3356049

Expect a shitty story with lots of fightan and generic tsundere moments.

>> No.3356057

It's weird how Lancer killing Kotomine in one blow is awesome, but Dark Sakura doing the same to Gilgamesh in HF is just lame.

>> No.3356064

>>3356031
>Roll Archer vs Shirou into HF somehow. You don't have a need for UBW anymore.

>> No.3356073

>>3356057
Lame? I laughed. Felt good to see Gilgamesh get fucked over without being able to resist, instead of the usual "I won't attack you fullpower to allow you to beat me LOL" shit.

>> No.3356077

>>3356064
Sure you do. Because it has Gil vs. Shirou. And because Sakura is worthless.

>> No.3356092

>>3356064
Archer vs Shirou is a core element of character and plot development. It's actually important.

Kotomine and Ilya, on the other hand, are almost completely irrelevant. Kotomine's only there for a fight scene and Ilya is only there for Deus Ex Machina. You could remove them entirely without having to make any changes to the Normal End, and yet there mere presence is enough to make a shitty story tolerable.

>> No.3356102

>>3356092
Kotomine isn't only there for a fight scene. He's there as a juxtaposition of Shirou's character, since they're both living only for a specific fulfillment of unattainable desires. Shirou wants his heroic ideal, and Kotomine wants to learn the truth of "evil." Neither can really attain it, but they would both be willing to do anything for it.

>> No.3356103

>>3356077
Gil vs Shirou had no real story value and served only as FINAL BOSS. And the finale of the battle was very anti climatic (Suddenly! black hole. Seriously?).

Only thing that would be missing would be the final talk between Rin and Archer.

Besides that you are just a Rinfag crying over how his girl's route is not being called "the best".

>> No.3356105

>>3356092
Yes, let's just suddenly forget about the actual plot behind the Holy Grail/Heavens Feel, faggot.

>> No.3356117

>>3356105
Most people forget the actual plot and setting and focus only on the characters' actions.

>> No.3356124

>>3356117
That's your best excuse? Ok.

>> No.3356130

>>3356103
>You're just a Rinfag, therefore anything you say is moot

But I like Illya the best, so yeah.

>(Suddenly! black hole. Seriously?)

Angry Manjew got evaporated. Gilgamesh was made of Angry Manjew. Therefore, Angry Manjew was trying its best to claim what was left. Not completely out of the blue.

Gilgamesh wasn't just a final boss, either. It was a fight to show that having the right ability and determination means you CAN stand up for your ideal and win, even if it's against the King of Heroes himself.

>> No.3356144

It has more Caster than any of the other routes

What more do you need

>> No.3356147

>>3356124
It's not an excuse.
It's a fact you do not pay attention to the overall plot, so when something happens, you cry 'Plothole ' or 'Deus ex Machina'.
There are only two moments in F/SN that require some suspension of disbelief, and most people never argue about them.

>> No.3356150

>>3356144
Yeah. She's sort of lame sometimes, but she was fun, too. A tragic princess, turned into Archer's weapon stand.

>> No.3356158
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3356158

I think that UBW is definitely the best route. I didn't like the endings of HF very much, and the ending of Fate caused me depression.

>> No.3356166

>>3356130
He wasn't MADE out of Angra Mainyu. Unlike Kotomine, he was just "bathed" in it, instead of having an actual part of it in him. Still that was not my point, but more it was so goddamn anticlimatic.

The Gilgamesh point contributes nothing to the actual plot. They could have added it even into Fate (Just like the past of Ilya and Berserker).

>> No.3356167

>>3356150
I just love how archer suddenly pulls the ability to shoot swords out of his ass and NEVER uses it again

I also like how lancer just sits around and lets him do it

>> No.3356169

>>3356166
His flesh and blood body was a result of being bathed in Angry Manjew. Basically, he's flesh given form from it. Which is why Angry Manjew erupted from his own body.

>> No.3356174

>>3356167
He used it again in the UBW, against Saber and Shirou, I think.

>> No.3356179

>>3356167
They can materialize swords out of thin air, giving them a push is not really a stretch.
And Lancer let him go because (as seen later when Shirou and Saber come out) he assumed he'd finish his 'Trojan horse' tactic.

>> No.3356186

>>3356169
Plus, Gil gives the interesting remark 'Beings like him cannot become the core' , which alludes to Avenger's true nature.

>> No.3356191

>>3356179
And didn't know that Archer was going to abduct Rin and try to kill his own past self.

Which is probably why Lancer was so pissed, because he likely believed that Archer wasn't going to degrade himself even further.

>> No.3356207

>>3356179
The only thing that kind of bothers me is that he materialised way too many swords together, and he wasn't in the UBW unlike the second time. Still, not gonna bother in discussing about an ability we have almost zero information about.

>> No.3356212

>>3356191
Plus, he likes Rin
Bastard took her away before she could pay back the favor.

>> No.3356213

>>3356207
Just dismiss it as more of Archers lolplothax and move on

>> No.3356219

>>3356213
Yes, a guy whose sole power is creating a world full of unlimited weapons, has control over them?
'LOLHAX'.

>> No.3356229

>>3356207
UBW gives you control over your world of created weapons and the weapons themselves.
It becomes pretty obvious throughout the 3 routes.

Most Servants abilities are sudden when they appear the FIRST time, and they get explained gradually(and recorded to teh status screen).

>> No.3356239

>>3356229
No no, I wasn't talking about the UBW itself, but about the ability to materialise and shoot dozens of swords together in the real world (and not in the Reality Marble).

>> No.3356249

>>3356239
Projection is an extension of UBW. Draw the weapon out with a form in the real world, release it.

Same principle as Gilgamesh's Gate of Babylon: take the treasure from the repository, and expel it.

>> No.3356255

>>3356239
He created the weapons.

They just kinda happened to be angled down, above someone, and moving at a high velocity.

>> No.3356261

>>3356239
It's just plain old projection. Shirou does it too, he's just too inexperienced and has to project and shoot swords one at a time rather than in mass parallel like Archer.

>> No.3356283

>>3356249
Yes, but unlike Gate of Babylon, where the swords must only be taken out, which means he can basically take out as many as he wants together, Archer must actually project them, and I, up to that moment, thought he could only project them out of his hands (or some shit like that), instead of having an actual "gate".

>>3356255
Well, I guess that if he can project them anywhere, this makes sense.

>> No.3356289

>>3356261
>Shirou does it too
Oh yeah, the Nine Lives Blade Works is that too, isn't it?

>> No.3356291

>>3356283
Archer/Shirou are actually faster, because Gilgamesh has to prepare his. When Gil's are used, they recycle, too. The fakers can just keep pulling out swords from thin air, lightning fast, until they burn out or run out of mana.

>> No.3356300

>>3356283
He pretty much can control the weapons however he wishes. That's why Archer was classified as an Archer (like Gil)
For example , e doesn't actually have the physical Strength to lift Berserker's sword, he emulates it by forcing the created sword to move according to the Nine Lives skill.
Shirou does not have much skill, but even he could project multiple swords in such a place to stop Archer's spam attack or Gil's attacksHe usually uses bow for strong, single projectile ttacks (like Caladbolg or Hrunting).

But it's usually simpler to put the swords in your hand and fight.

>> No.3356302

>>3356291
Not to mention apparently they can pre-prepare weapons if need be.

>> No.3356306

>>3356291
If i'm not wrong, this is only true if they are in the Reality Marble, where the weapons are actually there already. Otherwise Archer/Shirou has to prepare them too, and takes him more time than just to pull them out like Gilga. (This was all said by shirou, since his plan was basically that).

>> No.3356310

>>3356306
Yeah, if UBW is not out, they have to pull out the Swords.
With UBW expanded, unlimited blades are constantly there.

>> No.3356314

>>3356306
Shirou is slow. Archer is pretty fucking fast at projection. That's because Archer has had a long time to perfect it.

>> No.3356316

>>3356306
Measuring gil's true abilities is impossible.

>> No.3356334

>>3356314
Hmm, this is possible I guess. Still saying which one is faster (Archer or Gilga) is hard, but I personally say it'd be easier to just take them out than project them.

>>3356316
Once in the Reality Marble he was truly overpowered. It was in the real world where he fucked up because of playing
around.

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